Railroad History Quiz Game (Come on in and play)

[oltmannd]

What was the final answers? Did I get no. 6 right refering to the Mckeen gas car?

I'll have to give you credit for your own answer to no. 6, but I was thinking along the lines of the M10000's usually being considered the second designed streamliner to run in the USA, although it actually ran first. 

Another answer to no. 6 that correctly speaks to the "second" theme put the M10000 just after Germany's "Flying Hamburger" which I believe also is correct. 

What I'm curious about is this:  what's the big whoop about Salina, KS?  Pretty small city, isn't it? 

SOOOooo, it's time to pose another question.  Anyone??   

 

How about Salinas California?

A quicky.  The LIRR has a decent sized fleet of unique short commuter coaches know for their lousy ride.  Some of them are still around in tourist line service.  What nick name did they go by?

Hint:  Think of an apropros 2008 Olympic sport.

another WAG .... 'Stock pens"?

Nope.  Go rent Forest Gump....

[J. Daddy]

What was the final answers? Did I get no. 6 right refering to the Mckeen gas car?

I'll have to give you credit for your own answer to no. 6, but I was thinking along the lines of the M10000's usually being considered the second designed streamliner to run in the USA, although it actually ran first. 

Another answer to no. 6 that correctly speaks to the "second" theme put the M10000 just after Germany's "Flying Hamburger" which I believe also is correct. 

What I'm curious about is this:  what's the big whoop about Salina, KS?  Pretty small city, isn't it? 

SOOOooo, it's time to pose another question.  Anyone??   

 

How about Salinas California?

A quicky.  The LIRR has a decent sized fleet of unique short commuter coaches know for their lousy ride.  Some of them are still around in tourist line service.  What nick name did they go by?

Hint:  Think of an apropros 2008 Olympic sport.

another WAG .... 'Stock pens"?

[al-in-chgo]

Just a WAG:  Bobsleds??  -  a.s.

 

 ...it's the summer Olympics coming up.....

 

hmmm . . .  I don't think they had skateboards in the 1930s . . . 

[oltmannd]

Just a WAG:  Bobsleds??  -  a.s.

 

 ...it's the summer Olympics coming up.....

[trainfan1221]

Didn't they eventually make larger versions of that with a bigger prime mover?

[KCSfan]

 

What I'm curious about is this:  what's the big whoop about Salina, KS?  Pretty small city, isn't it? 

Al, remember that the M10000 was a very short train. Just three cars, the first of which was half power unit, RPO and baggage/express. Total passenger seating was no more than 100 if that so it wasn't at all suited for a heavier traveled route. Traffic density on the Kansas City - Salina run was a pretty good match for its limited capacity.

Mark

[al-in-chgo]

Just a WAG:  Bobsleds??  -  a.s.

 

[oltmannd]

What was the final answers? Did I get no. 6 right refering to the Mckeen gas car?

I'll have to give you credit for your own answer to no. 6, but I was thinking along the lines of the M10000's usually being considered the second designed streamliner to run in the USA, although it actually ran first. 

Another answer to no. 6 that correctly speaks to the "second" theme put the M10000 just after Germany's "Flying Hamburger" which I believe also is correct. 

What I'm curious about is this:  what's the big whoop about Salina, KS?  Pretty small city, isn't it? 

SOOOooo, it's time to pose another question.  Anyone??   

 

How about Salinas California?

A quicky.  The LIRR has a decent sized fleet of unique short commuter coaches know for their lousy ride.  Some of them are still around in tourist line service.  What nick name did they go by?

Hint:  Think of an apropros 2008 Olympic sport.

[al-in-chgo]

What was the final answers? Did I get no. 6 right refering to the Mckeen gas car?

I'll have to give you credit for your own answer to no. 6, but I was thinking along the lines of the M10000's usually being considered the second designed streamliner to run in the USA, although it actually ran first. 

Another answer to no. 6 that correctly speaks to the "second" theme put the M10000 just after Germany's "Flying Hamburger" which I believe also is correct. 

What I'm curious about is this:  what's the big whoop about Salina, KS?  Pretty small city, isn't it? 

SOOOooo, it's time to pose another question.  Anyone??   

 

[J. Daddy]

What was the final answers? Did I get no. 6 right refering to the Mckeen gas car?

[al-in-chgo]

MR says delivered to the UP by Pullman Standard.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 

Jeff 

Probably.  The surprise to me in all this was that it wasn't an internationally-known designer like Raymond Loewy, but a man who would go on to achieve fame as a car designer. 

Next question?  I don't know who "won" this one; it was more a matter of different people chipping in. 

Whoever's out there now, if you've got a question, now's the time to pose it!  - a.s.

 

 

[jeffhergert]

MR says delivered to the UP by Pullman Standard.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 

Jeff 

[al-in-chgo]

What a coincidence.  Al have you been reading Model Railroader's August 2008 product reviews?

Jeff

PS, it doesn't give all the answers to Al's questions.  I also think they may disagree with one of the answers.  

Okay, here are the answers based on my research, most of it thru uprr dot com/history:

Let me toss in a question just to keep the wheels turning: 

- What was the M10000?   Streamliner (designed trainset) that entered service in 1934.

- What indvidual designed it?   Harley Earl, head of a team at General Motors.

- What company fabricated it?  General Motors

- What company operated it?  UP

- What was its more commonly used name?   City of Salina (reports differ:  one said it was called that from the start; another said the name was applied in 1936 when the train entered revenue service on a fixed schedule) - and -

- Why is it considered the second of its kind?   It is and it isn't.  Most historians refer to the Pioneer Zephyr as the first of its time, but actually the M10000 ran first - a.s. 

So where do MR and I fall apart? 

 

 

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[jeffhergert]

What a coincidence.  Al have you been reading Model Railroader's August 2008 product reviews?

Jeff

PS, it doesn't give all the answers to Al's questions.  I also think they may disagree with one of the answers.  

[al-in-chgo]

1.The first American streamlined passenger train

2.Averell Harriman?

3.Pullman Standard?

4.Union Pacific

5."Little Zip"?

6.The Flying Hamburger was built before it

2)  Averell Harriman was president of the UP; I don't know if it was during the 1930s but it makes sense.  However, I don't mean the man who HAD it designed.  I mean the (big hint):  American who headed up the design team at (no. 3 answer, also the company that fabricated the M10000. 

 

[Stevo3751]

1.The first American streamlined passenger train

2.Averell Harriman?

3.Pullman Standard?

4.Union Pacific

5."Little Zip"?

6.The Flying Hamburger was built before it

[al-in-chgo]

Sorry Mark,

Its Al in Stockton and am leaving on a Railfan Vacation this AM for two weeks. So will not be participating until I get back.

Am going to try the new camera and lenses at Cajon, Tehachapi, LAUPT, Coast Line, and Surf Line.

Al - in - Stockton 

Let me toss in a question just to keep the wheels turning: 

- What was the M10000?

- What indvidual designed it?

- What company fabricated it? 

- What company operated it? 

- What was its more commonly used name?  - and -

- Why is it considered the second of its kind?  - a.s. 

 

Oh boy this is a toughy....

1) Nicked named little 'Zippy' it was one of the first 4 car Articulate 'strainset' stream lined trains of its day. Powered by a 600hp Winton gas motor, it had 4 cars orginally released but one was removed and sent to the M10001 City of Portland, I think the sleeping car.

2) Hmmm Art Deco styling Raymond Loewy or Otto Kuhler....

3) Pullman Standard

4) The Union Pacific

5) the littly Zippy or the 'City of Salina'

6) Second of its kind? Argh because it beat the Burlington Zephyr 9900 by 6 weeks? Or because it was developed off of the Mckeen gas motor car?

re:  1)  Also nicknamed the "flying banana" for its use of UP Armour Yellow according to uprr.com

      2)  Nobody has gotten that right yet.

      3)   Wrong  [small hint:  if you get no. 2 right, no.3  will follow logically]. 

      4)  Yep.

       5)  Accounts vary as to whether the M10000 was named that from the git-go,

            but we do know it was called City of Salina in revenue service in 1936.  Right.

 

[railroadnut675]

FEC?

Nate

CSX, though FEC was once the mightiest.

[J. Daddy]

Sorry Mark,

Its Al in Stockton and am leaving on a Railfan Vacation this AM for two weeks. So will not be participating until I get back.

Am going to try the new camera and lenses at Cajon, Tehachapi, LAUPT, Coast Line, and Surf Line.

Al - in - Stockton 

Let me toss in a question just to keep the wheels turning: 

- What was the M10000?

- What indvidual designed it?

- What company fabricated it? 

- What company operated it? 

- What was its more commonly used name?  - and -

- Why is it considered the second of its kind?  - a.s. 

 

Oh boy this is a toughy....

1) Nicked named little 'Zippy' it was one of the first 4 car Articulate 'strainset' stream lined trains of its day. Powered by a 600hp Winton gas motor, it had 4 cars orginally released but one was removed and sent to the M10001 City of Portland, I think the sleeping car.

2) Hmmm Art Deco styling Raymond Loewy or Otto Kuhler....

3) Pullman Standard

4) The Union Pacific

5) the littly Zippy or the 'City of Salina'

6) Second of its kind? Argh because it beat the Burlington Zephyr 9900 by 6 weeks? Or because it was developed off of the Mckeen gas motor car?

[Anonymous]

6. They were scrapped?  there was one built before

[al-in-chgo]

I really did just FOFLMAO.  Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise awful day.

Great fun!  But on one of the questions you're right . . .  did'ja know that?  - al 

Yeah, number 4 is right.  But the rest were more fun.

And you were partly right on question no. 1.

 

[oltmannd]

I really did just FOFLMAO.  Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise awful day.

Great fun!  But on one of the questions you're right . . .  did'ja know that?  - al 

Yeah, number 4 is right.  But the rest were more fun.

[al-in-chgo]

I really did just FOFLMAO.  Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise awful day.

Great fun!  But on one of the questions you're right . . .  did'ja know that?  - al 

[Railway Man]

I really did just FOFLMAO.  Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise awful day.

[oltmannd]

Mostly total WAGs..... 

1. A streamlined, articulatedgasoline powered train with a gazillion rivets.

2. Helen Keller

3. ACF?

4. Union Pacific

5. The flying caterpillar

6. The first one wreck, caught fire and sunk into swamp before delivery.

 

[al-in-chgo]

Sorry Mark,

Its Al in Stockton and am leaving on a Railfan Vacation this AM for two weeks. So will not be participating until I get back.

Am going to try the new camera and lenses at Cajon, Tehachapi, LAUPT, Coast Line, and Surf Line.

Al - in - Stockton 

Let me toss in a question just to keep the wheels turning: 

- What was the M10000?

- What indvidual designed it?

- What company fabricated it? 

- What company operated it? 

- What was its more commonly used name?  - and -

- Why is it considered the second of its kind?  - a.s. 

 

[passengerfan]

Sorry Mark,

Its Al in Stockton and am leaving on a Railfan Vacation this AM for two weeks. So will not be participating until I get back.

Am going to try the new camera and lenses at Cajon, Tehachapi, LAUPT, Coast Line, and Surf Line.

Al - in - Stockton 

[KCSfan]

The lack of recent replies tells me you guys may be stumped so I'll post the rest of the answer. When the IC inagurated the City of New Orleans they also ran a train from Louisville which connected with the CofNO at Fulton, KY. At the time there were no diesel servicing facilites on the Fulton-Louisville line so the IC semi-streamlined Pacific No. 1146 in their Paducah shops to head this connecting train.

For those interested pictures of both IC No.1146 and NYC No. 4917 (the JW Riley engine) can be viewed online at George Elwood's Fallen Flag Photos site.

I think Carl is out of town and off line for a while so I'll declare Al-in-Stockton the winner since he mentioned not only the JWR but also the Mercury which I had overlooked.

Mark

[KCSfan]

WAG    the Land 'O Corn

Sorry but no the train in question didn't run on the Iowa Div. For that matter it didn't run on the Illinois Div or on the Chicago - New Orleans main line either.

Mark 

(my colorization).  Just to nail this down:  not even Kankakee to Chicago? 

Al,

The Big Four's JW Riley which was previously identified by Carl and your namesake in Stockton did run over the IC between Kankakee and Chicago behind a streamlined NYC Pacific for a few years. The as yet unidentified train that was headed by a semi-streamlined steam locomotive ran on the IC's Kentucky Division.

Mark

[al-in-chgo]

WAG    the Land 'O Corn?

Sorry but no the train in question didn't run on the Iowa Div. For that matter it didn't run on the Illinois Div or on the Chicago - New Orleans main line either.

Mark 

(my colorization).  Just to nail this down:  not even Kankakee to Chicago?