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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:56 PM

And another thread rises from the depths...

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Posted by Norm48327 on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 7:09 PM

Necro-threads seem to be popular of late. Up from the ashes. Zzz

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 7:14 PM

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Necro-threads seem to be popular of late. Up from the ashes. Zzz

 

Maybe, we are on the frontline of a TRAINS Forum ZombieDead Apocalypse? Bang Head

 

 


 

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Posted by ACY Tom on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:53 PM

I never knew about this thread before today.  I read just a little bit of it and couldn't stand to continue.  An occasional misspelling is understandable; but this thread convinces me that some people should be prohibited from attempting to use the English language without a license.  In the last few pages, some of the most vocal correspondents seem to be absolute nitwits, but their means of communication are not much more clear than a cave man's grunts and gestures, so I'm not really sure.  I'm probably being unfair to the caveman.  Somebody said he has the right to his oppiom.  Not sure about that.  Does he think he has the right to use his opium?  Seems a bit off topic to me.Confused

I guess there's no law against ignorance.  But there probably ought to be one against trying to impose it on others.  Some threads need to remain buried, if only to preserve the English language.  This is one.

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Posted by The Potomac Pundit on Thursday, January 4, 2018 4:28 PM

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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

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Posted by The Potomac Pundit on Thursday, January 4, 2018 4:33 PM

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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 

 
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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 
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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 

Hi. I would like to talk to you for a story I'm doing for Trains Magazine. An interview with you would be only part of a story on the Chase wreck, but it would add a lot. I mainly want to know what you've been doing for the past few years. Cheers.... Don Phillips

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Posted by The Potomac Pundit on Thursday, January 4, 2018 4:35 PM

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Hi. I would like to talk to you for a story I'm doing for Trains Magazine. An interview with you would be only part of a story on the Chase wreck, but it would add a lot. I mainly want to know what you've been doing for the past few years. Cheers.... Don Phillips

 

 
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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 

 
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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 
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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 

 

 

Hi. I would like to talk to you for a story I'm doing for Trains Magazine. An interview with you would be only part of a story on the Chase wreck, but it would add a lot. I mainly want to know what you've been doing for the past few years. Cheers.... Don Phillips

 

 

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Posted by The Potomac Pundit on Thursday, January 4, 2018 4:38 PM

Hi. I would like to talk to you for a story I'm doing for Trains Magazine. An interview with you would be only part of a story on the Chase wreck, but it would add a lot. I mainly want to know what you've been doing for the past few years. Cheers.... Don Phillips

 

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Posted by The Potomac Pundit on Thursday, January 4, 2018 4:42 PM

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:11 PM

I think the forums were quite good back then. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:27 PM

A number of years ago, wasn't there a poster that used the ID of 'Ricky Gates'?

I have no idea of the true identity of that poster.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:05 PM

BaltACD

A number of years ago, wasn't there a poster that used the ID of 'Ricky Gates'?

I have no idea of the true identity of that poster.

There was.  He said a few things that might lead one to believe it was the real deal, but we've been fooled before.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:06 PM

BaltACD

A number of years ago, wasn't there a poster that used the ID of 'Ricky Gates'?

I have no idea of the true identity of that poster.

That user's most recent post was in May, 2015, in the "Amtrak wreck in Philadelphia" thread.  I remember seeing the name and assuming he was a imposter, but after re-reading this entire thread I am not sure.  If he is an imposter he has gone to great lengths to appear real.

If he is the real Ricky Gates then it took a lot of courage to come and post on a site like this, under his real name no less.  

I also had no idea Don Phillips had an account on here, but it makes sense as he is a Trains' contributor just like Fred Frailey.  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:11 PM

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Gates served time at the Big House. After his release, I understand he works as a counselor. Gates changed railroading, but if he had refused the weed, someone else would have changed railroading. In other words, those who rule us are of a mind-set to use any "event" as an excuse to create more strings to control us. Things such as Gates did have been going on ever since the country began, but the results of what he did were IMPOSSIBLE a century ago.
 

 

 

 

 

Hi. I would like to talk to you for a story I'm doing for Trains Magazine. An interview with you would be only part of a story on the Chase wreck, but it would add a lot. I mainly want to know what you've been doing for the past few years. Cheers.... Don Phillips

 

 

 

 

 

Don- The poster you are addressing shows as being anonymous. That means the poster has left this forum. In other words, you're addressing someone who will never see your post.  Sorry.  

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:33 PM

I have no reason to doubt that this was the authentic Ricky Gates back then.  I haven't checked, but if his name shows on the posts early in the thread, that means he's still capable of seeing a message himself.  Perhaps a private message would help.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:50 PM

Carl- Look at the first few posts on this thread. The poster that Don is addressing above is not the poster whose avatar says Ricky Gates.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Thursday, January 4, 2018 9:03 PM

Murphy Siding

Carl- Look at the first few posts on this thread. The poster that Don is addressing above is not the poster whose avatar says Ricky Gates.

Judging by Don's first two posts he is having some trouble with the forum software.

His question seems to be directed towards Mr. Gates, who is far and away the most likely person on here to be sought out for an interview.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the upcoming verdict in the Lac-Megantic trial?

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, January 5, 2018 6:43 AM

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His question seems to be directed towards Mr. Gates, who is far and away the most likely person on here to be sought out for an interview.

Really?  Ricky?  Don't understand why so many seek anything from him.

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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Friday, January 5, 2018 7:39 AM

I just read thru this thread and need to say a couple things from my perpesctive here people.  First off if your in charge of something that weighs more than 1 ton that moves any controlled substance in your blood is enough to make you impared and is not subject to argurement with me.  Sorry as of yesterday I am going to have one hell of a WC case we had a forklift driver that over the weekend partook of weed and yesterday ran over another employee with 2 gaylord bins of plastic resin on his forklift weighing in at 2 tons.  Said employee is now on the unemployment line and the victim is in the hospital getting his leg put back together est time till recovered 1 year.  

 

So you can forget about ever hearing about relaxing the rules of weed around me.  To those that want less drug testing in the workplace sorry I actually want more I have seen more families ruined by booze and drugs than I care to think about.  I look at the newpaper in my area and see families ripped apart by overdoses on herion and other drugs and these are families I know and they all say the same thing they started off on weed and worked their way up.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, January 5, 2018 8:14 AM

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So you can forget about ever hearing about relaxing the rules of weed around me. 

Not that alcohol is any better, but we have a decent idea of the effects of partaking of same, like the body metabolizes an ounce in about an hour - a few hours after you finish that cold one, you're perfectly sober again.

We don't know that about marijuana.  And the "dose" is not consistent as it can be with alcohol.  

What I'm hoping is that there can now be research to find out what the beneficial parts of marijuana - instead of smoking a joint for your lumbago, you can take a pill that contains whatever will actually cure you.  And you'll know that for X time after you take the pill, you shouldn't operate heavy machinery, etc.

If I get pulled over for DWI, the cop can do a breathalyzer right then and there.  When they can do a similar test for marijuana, I'll feel a little better about legalizing it.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 5, 2018 8:35 AM

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What I'm hoping is that there can now be research to find out what the beneficial parts of marijuana - instead of smoking a joint for your lumbago, you can take a pill that contains whatever will actually cure you.

There's been plenty of research on it, and plenty of results ... spun either way, often depending on the source of funding as is regrettably typical of politically-charged 'science'.  The beneficial effects of extract of THC were well-established as early as Neurosine; as near as I can tell, that product 'had to go' in the 1930s when the official Reefer Madness pravda was that Mary Jane had no redeeming medical or social virtues at all and had to be banned.

The chief current problem with marijuana appears to be that it compromises brain development past the teenage years, perhaps well up into the '20s, and I've seen no scientific evidence that the induced changes aren't essentially permanent.  This puts a decidedly difficult face on 'access control' to "medical marijuana" than to alcohol or tobacco. 

As I understand it, because THC is substantially fat-soluble, it has a relatively long retention time in the body, and a comparably long 'psychoactive' time.  Whether that translates into a practical breath or sweat test that can be fairly admissible as court-level evidence of likely impairment is an interesting question.  There is a now-largely-apocryphal report of a study done to show the evils of drunk driving, where they served beers to NASCAR drivers or the equivalent who then went out to turn laps "to show that even professional drivers suffer from alcohol".  What the test actually showed, no surprise, was that after the first beer or two their driving performance on the track actually improved, and the slovenliness only started up after about 3 or more...

Note for Don Oltmann: User "Rick Gates" is still listed as current, and while I didn't PM him, he has the function enabled.  Here is a classic thread he started in 2012, which will give you one-click access to his Kalmbach contact information.

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Posted by erikem on Friday, January 5, 2018 8:53 AM

tree68

 

What I'm hoping is that there can now be research to find out what the beneficial parts of marijuana - instead of smoking a joint for your lumbago, you can take a pill that contains whatever will actually cure you.  And you'll know that for X time after you take the pill, you shouldn't operate heavy machinery, etc.

I've run across a couple of statements to the effect that the medcally beneficial components in Marijuana are indeed different than the psychoactive components.

If I get pulled over for DWI, the cop can do a breathalyzer right then and there.  When they can do a similar test for marijuana, I'll feel a little better about legalizing it.

 
There has been some work to make a "breathalyzer" for THC (IIRC, a group in Pullman WA). Unfortunately it requires at least an ion mobility spectrometer to make the measurement as opposed to the flammable gas sensor used in a typical breathalyer. IMS's typically need about 30 sec to process the test. Then there is the problem of what level of detected THC corresponds to legally impaired.
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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Friday, January 5, 2018 2:31 PM

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. . . Note for Don Oltmann: User "Rick Gates" is still listed as current, and while I didn't PM him, he has the function enabled.  Here is a classic thread he started in 2012, which will give you one-click access to his Kalmbach contact information. 

Overmod - I think you meant Don Phillips.

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, January 5, 2018 2:59 PM

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Overmod - I think you meant Don Phillips.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, January 5, 2018 4:43 PM

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Then there is the problem of what level of detected THC corresponds to legally impaired.

Which is really the crux of my concern.  Now that marijuana has been legallized in many area, perhaps some serious research on the subject can be conducted.  Or if it already has been, on the sly, maybe the results can be made public.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, January 5, 2018 5:33 PM

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erikem
Then there is the problem of what level of detected THC corresponds to legally impaired. 

Which is really the crux of my concern.  Now that marijuana has been legallized in many area, perhaps some serious research on the subject can be conducted.  Or if it already has been, on the sly, maybe the results can be made public.

For shame, for shame.  If it was made public then the public would have the opportunity to become educated.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, January 5, 2018 6:51 PM

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A number of years ago, wasn't there a poster that used the ID of 'Ricky Gates'?

I have no idea of the true identity of that poster.

 

There was.  He said a few things that might lead one to believe it was the real deal, but we've been fooled before.

 

Yes, it was the Ricky Gates everyone assumes, I have had some email correspondence with him....

 

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, January 5, 2018 6:56 PM
And just to put my 2 cents in…any amount, booze or pot in your system means I don’t want you to work with me…or to run a train, line a switch, anything at all, period.

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Posted by erikem on Friday, January 5, 2018 10:29 PM

A very appropriate request, IMHO, both from wanting to come home in one piece and not wanting to be part of a news story.

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Friday, January 5, 2018 11:22 PM

I am new here, but in the past two days I have read this thread entirely, focusing particularly on the posts my Mr. Gates.

I have no particular relevant expertise, but my strong impression, after interacting his other humans for 68 years, is that the poster was/is the real Mr. Gates. And that he’s a guy worth listening to.

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