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Jeffrey's Trackside Diner for NOVEMBER, 2023: California!

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, November 6, 2023 9:33 PM

What's all this doom and gloom about the Diner and the forums  being down for a couple of days? It's a free service. We are getting a pretty good deal for the price! Stop crying wolf for goodness sake.

Cheers!!

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Posted by CNCharlie on Monday, November 6, 2023 9:24 PM

I joined  the Forum 16 years ago to participate in the Diner. Many diners have come and gone in that time but the Diner survived. I can't believe it goes out of business because the whole forum goes downn for a couple of days. I rarely have problems getting on and I am using a tablet so old my Chrome browser can't be updated. 

I have gotten upset a few times from comments but am still here as I think the Diner is a great spot and value all the contributors. 

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Posted by York1 on Monday, November 6, 2023 8:46 PM

MisterBeasley
We've all had a car we spent more times under than in.

 

Mine was a 1966 Toyota.  On the highway from New Orleans to Nebraska, I can point out every place I broke down in that car driving to see my parents.  In 1978, I sold it to a guy for $15.  He wanted one of the front seats for his car.

When I could not get into the forum this weekend, I checked the other forum and saw quite a few names I recognized.  What's missing is a thread like this diner, which I will really miss if it goes away.

 

California's Mt. Shasta:

 

 In the Shadow of Mt. Shasta by Bob Wilcox, on Flickr

 

For the few diners left, I hope you have a great evening.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, November 6, 2023 8:34 PM

As long as the ship is still afloat I'll be here. Kalmbach farms out the forum software and they probably have little control over day to day glitches. I'm sure a complete site revamp isn't in the budget so we have to make do with what's left.

 SP 1988 Superbowl Extra by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 6, 2023 7:38 PM

C'mon, guys!  We've all had a car we spent more times under than in.   Mine was a '75 MGB, and if Saint Pete gives me the keys to that car when I get to the Pearly Gate, I'll know where I  am.  Yeah, same thing if I get the yellow Pontiac Sunbird, but, well, you know.  There is 'the Other Place.'

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Posted by York1 on Monday, November 6, 2023 5:48 PM

It's a sad day for me.  It's 5:45 pm my time, and this is the first time in two days I was able to open the forum.

I imagine the diner will not survive.

It was very nice getting to know all of you.  Goodbye.


 

Now I'm really sad!  I may have the last top of the page for me in the diner.

 

How about everyone join me in a happy hour drink to the long run of the diner!

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 6, 2023 5:40 PM

Like Henry I too have come to the end of the line with this Forum.

I have enjoyed my time here, but the challenges of logging on, posting pictures etc. are not what I want.

Therefore I wish all the best to those who remain, thank  you and goodbye.

 

David

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Monday, November 6, 2023 4:51 PM

Thank you for your many contributions, Henry.  You will be greatly missed.

Has the issue of the fragility of the platform become so sensitive that the most recent thread on the subject has been deleted?  If so, it's a sad state of affairs indeed.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, November 6, 2023 3:46 PM

One rarely gets a glimpse of the future.  We had one this weekend and it is time to say goodbye to my friends while I still can. 

There are many reasons each of us belong to this forum but none of us are here for the challenge of logging in and responding to posts.  The next time the forum breaks, it may not be fixable.

So thank you all for the education, the photos and the insights into your lives.  May we meet again in another forum or in that train station in the sky.

Henry

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Posted by gmpullman on Friday, November 3, 2023 11:12 PM

York1
William Holden:  "You're Norma Desmond!  You used to be in silent pictures.  You used to be big."

Certainly among my favorite films. I think I'll pop it in the DVD player while w**king on trains tonight Cool

Of course the real star of the film is the Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A. Gotta love a car that has a speaking tube to the chauffer.

 1931 Isotta Fraschini by D70, on Flickr


     — Meanwhile; California

Why we use flex track:

 ATSF, Cable, California, 1975 by Center for Railroad Photography & Art, on Flickr

Pardon me, just passing through:

 Thomas Taylor by Center for Railroad Photography & Art, on Flickr

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Posted by York1 on Friday, November 3, 2023 7:39 PM

Sunset Blvd!  One of my favorite movies.

 

William Holden:  "You're Norma Desmond!  You used to be in silent pictures.  You used to be big."

Gloria Swanson:  "I am big.  It's the pictures that got small."

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Friday, November 3, 2023 7:16 PM

Sunset Blvd? 

OK, my uncle took me to dinner at Spago, Wolfgang Puck's restaurant.  Originally it was just off Sunset.  I don't remember anything about the food, but James Garner was eating dinner with Henry Fonda at the next table.

Years later we went to lunch at a restaurant in Brentwood.  Simon Baker (The Mentalist) was at the next table.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, November 3, 2023 3:33 PM

York1

MisterBeasley, I'm also having a hard time getting the forum site to open.  It's very slow to connect and very slow when I post.  I'm not having that issue with any other site.

I see more and more why quite a few forum members have switched to other forums.  While I could do that, I like it here.  I keep hoping things will get better.

I may be reluctantly reaching the same conclusion.  If we've lost Kevin, that's a bad sign for the future.

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Posted by York1 on Friday, November 3, 2023 3:04 PM

MisterBeasley, I'm also having a hard time getting the forum site to open.  It's very slow to connect and very slow when I post.  I'm not having that issue with any other site.

I see more and more why quite a few forum members have switched to other forums.  While I could do that, I like it here.  I keep hoping things will get better.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, November 3, 2023 2:29 PM

For a couple of weeks for me, hello from sunny Soth Carolina, North Myrtle Beach to be more exact.  The GF has a rental condo here.  She's getting furniture delivered, so it's officially "maintenance." 

She's noticed so far that summer renters have stolen bed pillows and all the hair dryers.  Really, who takes stuff like that?

Our cats are back home in Delaware and the dog is in a kennel, so we can relax without walking anyone or cleaning out any litter boxes.  That's my job, too, every night but that way it's easier.

I'm having different issues with this site now.  The internet connection is better, but the errors I'm getting are with timeout connections from the MR site itself and and complaints about security.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, November 3, 2023 11:30 AM

John.   The elevator is working fine.   It is helping Dawn tremendously in not having to climb the stairs.  It also helps in getting items up or down.

Should have installed one much earlier.   Big Smile

Yesterday I baked some cinnamon swirls.   They went down well.

 

Dinner   I  bought some fish.   Small roast potatoes and roasted vegetables.  Doing a Hollandaise Sauce as well.  (Never made that before)

 

Got to transfer some pictures to Flickr so as to post here.  Rather a bind.

 

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Posted by York1 on Friday, November 3, 2023 6:35 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, please.

We can't complain about the weather today.  Cool this morning, and in the 60s this afternoon.  Just about perfect.

We had excitement in our house.  I've had my firewood ready since last spring.  I brought some in and started a fire.  I was in the train room when my wife called and said we have a problem.  In the fire, about 15 wasps were crawling around one of the burning logs.  I put the screen up very tight against the fireplace!  I have found several wasps at a window, but I haven't seen any more since then.  I didn't know wasps had nests in old firewood.

Demolition of part of the layout began yesterday, and I will work on carefully getting a bridge out today.  I am going to change the bridge from single to double track.  I should be able to save the sides of the bridge, and just have to replace the top and bottom if I am careful enough.

David, glad to hear you are on the mend.  How is the elevator working out?

Mike, I admire you for the fact you can get into your shed.  Mine is so full I can't navigate it.

Have a great Friday, diners.

 

In Truckee, the UP is ready for snow on Donner Pass in California:

 

 UP Snow Removal Equipment (spreaders) at Truckee, Ca. by DJ shekky, on Flickr

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Posted by Water Level Route on Friday, November 3, 2023 5:40 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Zoe, a large coffee and a stack of glazed doughnuts please.

Got the outdoor stuff put away last night.  Went better than I thought.  We have more I had to fit into the shed this year than previous years, but somehow I got it all in and still have a functional shed.  Happy about that.  Debating bugging out of work early today to get more outdoor stuff done before the rain that is coming this afternoon.  We'll see.

David, good news on your ankle!  Glad to hear it.  Hopefully a full recovery comes quickly for you.  

John, the cat litter box is something I don't miss either.  We had a self cleaning one for a while.  That was nice until it broke.  The dogs didn't like that box as it kept their endless supply of treats cleaned up. Ick!

Happy Friday guys!

Mike

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, November 3, 2023 5:37 AM

Good morning Diners.  A coffee and blueberry muffin please,  Zoe.

'Blinded by the sun'   this morning.  a rare occassion  indeed.

Delivering birthday presents today.   Older granddaughter is 8 years old tomorrow.  Where does the time  go?  Seems only 'five minutes' since she was born.

 

David

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, November 2, 2023 9:49 PM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, November 2, 2023 4:16 PM

Good afternoon.  It's 61­° out!  It feels like summer again.  One week ago we had snow on the ground.

We used to have cats at our house.  Our last cat died about 15 years ago, and we've had only dogs since then.  I can't say I miss the cats -- it was my job to clean the litter boxes (and surrounding floors) each week.  I hated that.  Of course, I didn't have to walk a cat or take the cat outside when it's 30° below zero and snowy, either.

Another view of the Surfliner along the California coast:

 

 

I have had trouble signing onto the forum today.  Very frustrating.  I can sign onto other sites with no issues.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, November 2, 2023 2:31 PM

 Wilsons Fireplace by Bear, on Flickr

Smile

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, November 2, 2023 11:28 AM

Good evening Diners.   A late afternoon tea and cream scone please, Janie.

Had results on my ankle etc..   Not as bad as feared.  A slight damage to a  ligament..    The vampire nurse still wants more blood from  me.

 

Ed.  The black and white cat is a double of one we had.  Dawn could not believe it when I showed her.

 

Now to try and catch up on old  posts.

 

David

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:55 AM

gmpullman

 


Wilson rules!! Bow

(Looks like a rather benign dictatorship) Laugh

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:44 AM

The New Zealand Government Railways bought 8 of their 2-4-2 locomotives in 1877-78, hence the NZ interest.

Coincidental that you should mention a 2-4-2, Bear. I just scanned a Kodak that I believe was taken by my dad's brother-in-law, Stanley Mackenzie, of the East Branch & Lincoln four spot:

 East Branch & Lincoln No. 4 by Edmund, on Flickr

Both my dad and Stanley made quite a few photographs of the aftermath of the 1936 floods of New England.


 

Back to California...

Three colorful noses:

 rr6336 by George  Hamlin, on Flickr

Temps dropped below freezing last night and Wilson, in his infinite wisdom asked, "What are you saving all that firewood for?" He was right, of course, and we now have the stove fired up. It will probably remain hot through early April...

 Wilson guards the Wood Stove by Edmund, on Flickr

This was Wilson's first winter here, back in 2008. He has mastered the operation of the airtight stove without compromise.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Water Level Route on Thursday, November 2, 2023 5:47 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Chloe, I'll have, um, surprise me.  And add a cup of coffee.

Bear, that's an interesting story about the NZ Rail engines.  Wonder why the last 6 were plain black.  Huh?  And look at the colors on the ones you posted!  That's what I think of for engines of that era.  

Here is the Collis P. Huntington.  Same era as the Governor Stanford above.  It was actually the Central Pacific's locomotive #4.  It was later sold to the Southern Pacific where they renumbered it as their locomotive #1.

I've always wondered, back in those days how did they get locomotives on and off a ship that could carry them half way around the world?!  Just doesn't seem like dock cranes of the era would be likely able to lift more than a couple thousand pounds?

Something to try to coax Track Fiddler out of hiding.  Somewhere in Mendocino County, California.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Thursday, November 2, 2023 4:46 AM

Water Level Route
The colors of the locomotive seem muted compared to others I've seen from that era.

Gidday Mike, I can’t find it but there was a well-researched article in the NZ Railfan magazine on the various colour schemes of the locomotives built in the 1870s by the Rogers Locomotive and Machine Works of New Jersey. The New Zealand Government Railways bought 8 of their 2-4-2 locomotives in 1877-78, hence the NZ interest.
 
The first two were reported to have been delivered in a “kaleidoscope” of colours, red, green, blue, gold, purple, and yellow and their Russian Iron boilers. However, it appears that the remaining six were “black!”
 
The NZGR K class of 1877 were successful, and were in service until the mid-1920s, though by then they had been reboilered, had Westinghouse brake equipment fitted, and the wooden cabs replaced by steel ones. They had a huge influence on the future “New Zealand” designed steam locomotives.
 
Two have been restored, K88 twice...
 
 

“Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.”-Terry Pratchett

Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, November 1, 2023 8:18 PM

Good evening, diners.

California's Surfliner between San Diego and Los Angeles passes through some great scenery:

 

 US - Del Mar - F59PHI 453 by Jan-Geert Lukner, on Flickr

 

Have a good evening, everyone.

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Posted by gmpullman on Wednesday, November 1, 2023 4:33 PM

Thanks for that photo of the Sacramento Museum, Mike. I was there (can it be!?) twenty years ago!

We have our first snow in NE Ohio, maybe 2" here but closer to lake Erie some areas got a robust eight inches.

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, November 1, 2023 5:51 AM

Good Morning Diners!  Chloe, coffee and cinnamon toast please.

Seems the snow we got hampered the trick or treaters coming out.  Our numbers were on the low end of whats normal for us and my in-laws.  

Decided I would post something about the origins of the Central Pacific Railroad.  This was their first locomotive, the Governor Stanford.  It sits in a museum today.

The colors of the locomotive seem muted compared to others I've seen from that era.

Happy November guys!

Mike

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