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Jeffrey's Trackside Diner for NOVEMBER, 2023: California!

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Posted by OldEngineman on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:22 PM

Track Fiddler posted: "I've not been able to post for well over two weeks, as I've either been getting 403's or Gateway Timeouts."

I've seen a few times where I couldn't get into the forum as being "logged in".

However, if I used another browser (which didn't try to log me in, but rather just looked at the forum as an "unregistered viewer", I -could- read the forums (but couldn't post, of course).

So... I will guess that now and then, something goes wrong with the login and authentication process. Seems to clear up in a few hours.

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:41 PM

AEP528
The entire forum should be a distraction from other junk. Threads like the diner encourages junk to come into the forum. The diner is a distraction from model railroading.

When my old train club was planning how to use the space in our then new clubhouse, one of the highest priorities was that there be lounge area where members could sit and chat. I can only imagine the backlash if they were told that they could only talk about train related subjects!

If you don't like the Diner then don't visit it! Simple. Problem solved!!

Cheers!!

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Posted by up831 on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 5:59 PM

Hi Everyone,

i think that the device one uses affects his success in the forum.  My iPad does things a little differently than a regular computer and I suspect phones are different still.  For instance, I can't seem to post pictures from my iPad, because I go into Flickr and the iPad doesn't see a BB code at all.  Fortunately the Mac does.  I would imagine that a phone would present different problems.  Perhaps try a different device and see if there's any significant change in performance.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 5:44 PM

Good Evening,

Had a tropical day here, it hit 50F! The snow has all melted. I even pumped the melt out of the pond.

TF,  I think the forum problems you are having must be due to your phone. Other than the past weekend, when the site was down, I rarely have problems. I'm using an old tablet with Chrome as the search engine.

I won't be bidding on that brass Mike. Looking closely at the photos the paint is very poorly done. The brass I have purchased all have exceptional paint. 

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Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 1:48 PM

I recall awhile back that Kevin thought that he was banned, but it turned out to his computer. That went on for at least two weeks.

Rich

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Posted by Track fiddler on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 12:24 PM

Hi Railfans

Just to clarify things, it was me that felt ousted out of the Forums.  I've not been able to post for well over two weeks, as I've either been getting 403's or Gateway Timeouts.

When the site finally let me through last Friday, it said your post has been successfully submitted, please allow 24 hours for your post to be reviewed by a site monitor before it is posted, like being under probation or something.  Certainly don't remember offending anyone or anything.

Thought maybe it was just a glitch on the Diner thread so tried starting the Good Goodie thread.  The same thing happened and then everything appeared on Monday and Tuesday. 

Everything has been glitchy since aquiring this new phone a couple months ago.  Maybe incompatible software with the Forum site.

 

Quite Strange!

 

TF

 

PS   It was like pulling teeth just to post that just now, and couldn't even imagine trying to attach a picture.  About to give up here.

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:39 AM

York1
Strangely, I believe this is probably California's most famous train:   Disneyland Railroad DSC_4538 by Stephen Day, on Flickr

You are likely correct, but for me this is the one I think of there:

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:33 AM

AEP528

 

 
York1

I hope for everyone's sake, and the Diner's continued thread, that this was an isolated case and the Diner can continue to be a fun distraction from all the junk in the news and online.

 

 

This is a model railroad forum.

The entire forum should be a distraction from other junk.

Threads like the diner encourages junk to come into the forum. The diner is a distraction from model railroading.

 

It certainly appears that you do not support the existence of the diner.  Funny that you were in here at all then.  Seems contradictory.  If your intent was not to discourage the existence of the diner we might all benefit from a further explanation.

While the conversation in the diner may only rarely be in the model railroad realm, I would argue that it doesn't have to be if for no other reason than our generous hosts let us have the diner as long as we follow certain rules that most are very good about.

I have many friends that I only interact with at work.  However, we do not only talk about work.  When I get together with family, we do not only talk about family.  Why then as we gather virtually here, should be we wholly bound to discuss model railroading?  Taking such a stance would seem to ignore the social aspect of the hobby.  Participating in the diner is entirely voluntary.  While I cannot say with certainty, as I know no other model railroaders in my area, I doubt that at operating sessions 100% of the conversation is about operating the railroad or even model railroading in general, especially when crews are awaiting their turn.

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Posted by dti406 on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:21 AM

York1

 

On the TV front, I've read the BBC plans some more episodes of "Death in Paradise".  I'm excited by that since I've gone through all 11 seasons of reruns several times.  Can you tell I lead a pretty uninteresting life?

 

John,

They are going to add a Death in Paradise, based in Austrailia, and don't forget Beyond Paradise with Humphrey being a DI in a little village on the coast of England. Some more of our favorites are Vera and Shetland.

 

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Posted by AEP528 on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 10:34 AM

York1

I hope for everyone's sake, and the Diner's continued thread, that this was an isolated case and the Diner can continue to be a fun distraction from all the junk in the news and online.

This is a model railroad forum.

The entire forum should be a distraction from other junk.

Threads like the diner encourages junk to come into the forum. The diner is a distraction from model railroading.

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:04 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Bacon, eggs, and coffee, please.

I read the forum religiously every day.  Two things:

1.  I did not recognize someone's response to Track Fiddlers' posts.  I went back and found that I had completely missed TF's posts.  Now from what some of you have said, it looks like his posts appeared after we had already passed that group of posts.  Strange!

2.  I don't remember anyone in the diner insulting any one else.  I obviously don't recognize some other posters doing this, or else I just missed it completely.

I hope for everyone's sake, and the Diner's continued thread, that this was an isolated case and the Diner can continue to be a fun distraction from all the junk in the news and online.

I am getting ready to start revamping one of the layout bridges today (if a new house chore doesn't magically appear like yesterday).

On the TV front, I've read the BBC plans some more episodes of "Death in Paradise".  I'm excited by that since I've gone through all 11 seasons of reruns several times.  Can you tell I lead a pretty uninteresting life?

I hope everyone has a great Tuesday.

 

Strangely, I believe this is probably California's most famous train:

 

 Disneyland Railroad DSC_4538 by Stephen Day, on Flickr

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 6:02 AM

Thanks for the donuts, Mike. Those look like Krispy Kremes? Never cared for them, personally. Just TOO sweet. I'll take a custard-filled, yeast raised number with just a slight dusting of powdered sugar.

The NYC must have had a bigger poster budget what with the lithography and all Cool

 NYC_Lines_California by Edmund, on Flickr

At my most recent Doctors visit, my doctor told me that I now was considered “boring.” I hope Ed that you are also found to be “boring!!”

Thanks, Bear! I think I might be in the boring range. Yesterday my oncologist called and told me that the several MRI and PET scans I recently had really don't show any cancer 'conclusively' so he sugggested we wait on radiation and have another MRI in about three months.

I'm OK with that...

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 5:35 AM

Good Morning Diners!  Zoe, glazed doughnuts for my friends in the diner please. 

Good to have Mr Track Fiddler back, although I see the same problem as Bear.  TF suddenly appears in the middle of the diner thread where he wasn't before.  That's quite a trick!

Brent, I hope you see this and decide to return.  We miss you in here posting about whatever you desire.  That's kind of the point of the diner, and the individual who was giving you a hard time has not been seen since I brought up why I figured you left.  To be clear, my intent was not to run them off, but it appears to be what happened.  Sad that some people can't see that the diner is big enough for all of us to fit in it.

Sure glad they figured out how to grow smaller oranges than before. Clown

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 2:40 AM
For Br. Lion and others who might like one. After all, “an apple a day keeps the Doctor away,” or so they say!??
 Braeburn apple by Bear, on Flickr
 
Interesting, Mr. Tf??!! Your replies. of the 11th didn’t show up for me until today, the 14th!!!
Perhaps I have a solution?! Smile, Wink & Grin
 
 New Sting by Bear, on Flickr
 
 I recently communicated with Batman, who told me that he was taking a break from the Forum, he may drop by sometime.
 
 Lights out by Bear, on Flickr
 
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Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, November 14, 2023 12:10 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Monday, November 13, 2023 3:46 PM

tstage

If Brent was tossed from the forum it's news to me.  I thought he had moved on - like a number of other forum members have/had done recently.

 
Well, if he did so, I'd be bummed.  And doubly so if Doctor Wayne has exited.  This is becoming a rather somber subject.
 
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Posted by tstage on Monday, November 13, 2023 3:13 PM

If Brent was tossed from the forum it's news to me.  I thought he had moved on - like a number of other forum members have/had done recently.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, November 13, 2023 2:52 PM

I do remember a few forum members removed for cause, mostly deliberately violating forum rules like NO POLITICS or NO OBSCENITY, but most excluded members were clueless as to why they could no longer post.  The Mods didn't know either.

It appears the old tale is true:  A computer program will continue to expand until it exceeds the capability of its programmers to maintain it.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by tstage on Monday, November 13, 2023 1:17 PM

Track fiddler

Hey!!! Forum Monitors!!!

There is definitely something wrong here!!!

Remember Me this!, and answer me back, ... How was one ever 'Ousted' from the Forum here???

 

Sincerely TF

John - I just read this this morning.  I honestly have NO idea what you are talking about or referring to. Tongue Tied

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Posted by York1 on Monday, November 13, 2023 9:38 AM

Good morning, everyone.  I'll have bacon, eggs, and coffee this morning, Brunhilda.

I have a whole day with nothing scheduled.  I wonder what I could find that will keep me occupied?  The layout is calling!

When I was growing up, I loved scenes of the future like this photo.  Then, in 1962, my family went to the Seattle World's Fair, where the entire focus was on the great technological future.  Even now, I still love seeing scenes like this, even though very few of the 1950's future visions have come to pass.

 

 Los Angeles, CA 1953 a Los Angeles monorail in a Conoco advertisement? by ArchiTexty, on Flickr

 

Have a great day, everyone.

 

Edit:  My wife just informed me that part of the kitchen wall needs some more work.  I guess the layout will wait.  Sad

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, November 13, 2023 6:23 AM

OK, so it's not California — but it is neat anyway. NJ Transit has a shiny new ERIE paint job running around the Hoboken neighborhood. Those overhead scenes at the Rutherford Depot look just like a model railroad Cool

Maybe it becomes a drag after a while but I'd sure like my workday to begin and end with a train ride!

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Posted by Water Level Route on Monday, November 13, 2023 5:46 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Chloe, I'll take coffee in a sippy mug today.  Just spilled mine here.

Got the Christmas lights up this weekend like I had hoped.  Went reasonably well and I am really happy with the new lights for the roof.  I should be given what I paid for them, but they sure look like they were worth it at this point.  I won't light the lights for probably another week but at least I'm ready now before the weather turns and/or schedules get even busier with the holidays. 

Through it all I've determined I will never buy GE holiday lights again.  I had three or four strings on my roof fail during the season last year, including a set that was new last year.  When I took them down I set the 6 good sets aside and labeled the rest as spare parts.  Of the six that were fine when I took them down in January, ONE worked right when I checked them (just to see) this year.  On top of that, two of the three sets on my fence were new last year, and both of the "new" ones failed this year when I plugged them in.  Fortunately, I ran the same lights on my deck and had planned for failures and bought some different ones for my fence this year.  At least the lights around the windows all still worked (gulping with fear).

Bear, my daughter's soccer tournament is this coming weekend, but thanks for the kind words!  Between her knee and her never ending sickness, it could be a long weekend.

Here's to hoping for a good Monday for everyone!

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:37 PM

Flo, I'll have a cup of black coffee.

We are having our best weather of the year!  In the 60s (F), clear, and no wind.  The dog loves walking me in this weather.

Have a good Sunday evening, everyone.

 

1974 in San Francisco, California:

 

 SP 3205 in San Francisco by Steve Sloan, on Flickr

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, November 12, 2023 2:49 PM

And South Carolina is having a cold wave, 55F and cloudy.  I'd rather be back in Delaware with grass and trees.  Myrtle Beach is too urban for me.  Too much concrete and asphalt.

We did spend time at a brewery/taproom yesterday, and then we had dinner at Margaritaville.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Sunday, November 12, 2023 1:54 PM

Good Afternoon,

We are having a heat wave today, must be 42F now.

Bear,  Dad had that Wellington manual because he trained on them. As bomb aimer he had to know something of the controls. He was also co-pilot for takeoff and landing, assistant navigator and alternate tail gunner. 

There is an ebay auction on for a CN S2a Mikado I am warching. If the price stays down I may bid. It was the only CN mike with a Vandy tender, unusual for a freight engine. It was also the only one with a Belpaire firebox.

Think I will go for a walk and enjoy the suneshine.

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Posted by "JaBear" on Sunday, November 12, 2023 3:40 AM
Gidday Chloe, a small banana milkshake, please.
 
At my most recent Doctors visit, my doctor told me that I now was considered “boring.” I hope Ed that you are also found to be “boring!!” That goes for others with medical issues, though I still think of RR_Mels “…aging is definitely not for wimps.”
 
I have read somewhere that travelling by train, in the US fell off rapidly after WW2, not only because of the improvements in aircraft and the growing affordability of air transport, but because of the time so many servicemen and women had spent on crowded troop trains during the war.
 
And while ANZAC Day is our main commemoration of our service folk, a thought is still given on Armistice Day.
 
I initially thought that you were pretty early to be setting up the Christmas lights, Mike, but then factoring in an icy roof is not an issue at this time of year, down under! Hope the daughter was in good enough to play in her tournament, and if so, it went well for her team.
 
“Fosters!!!!!”Paul, brewed in the UK???!!! Good grief, if that’s the best brew around, no wonder Britain lost her empire!!!WinkLaughLaugh
 
“Loose gravel”!! Well, it’s good to see someone with a sense of humour, Br. Lion, I’d be interested to read their description of a Japanese pebble garden!
 
I wonder York1John, that with the dog, you’re going for a walk, or a drag???!!!Smile, Wink & Grin
 
I have seen a Connie, Charlie, I’ve shared this photo taken with my Box Brownie before.
 
 
I would find your fathers copy of the Vicker Wellingtons Pilots Notes very interesting. Over the years I’ve either saved from the bin, or been given old aircraft and engine maintenance, and or training manuals. While not wishing to indulge in one up mans ship, I recently was given a set of engineers (mechanics) training notes for the Vickers Wildebeest.
 
 
It is interesting to note that the basic aircraft engineering standard practices have not really changed. I have an August 1941 edition of “The Ground Engineer’s Manual, a pocket sized hard covered book, first printed in the UK, March 1939. (Including the August 41 edition 65,000 copies had been printed). My copy was my primary study material when I sat my “Wood, Rag, and Tube” aircraft maintenance exams, as I considered it was far better and more helpful than more modern references.
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile
 
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Posted by CNCharlie on Saturday, November 11, 2023 11:40 AM

Good Morning,

Remembrance Day here. I will look over Dad's Flying Log Book. It records all of the missions he flew. Not much detail, just target, time in air and any major events such as attack by enemy fighters, flack hits, and engine problems. Dad did recount to me when they were caught in searchlights. They went into evasive manouvers which meant a dive by dropping a wing. Luckily they had a great pilot who could pull out a bomber from the dive. Many missions were over 7 hours in the air.

I have a copy of Pilot Notes for Wellington aircraft. I bet Bear would find it interesting. Dad had his first stroke 50 years today and exactly one year later he had another.  I have always thought they were triggered by PTSD. 

Well, it is cloudy here but about 32F which isn't bad. Perhaps the Piliated Woodpecker will stop by again today. What a magnificent bird.

Time foe more coffee.

CN Charlie

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, November 11, 2023 5:35 AM

 

Free coffee and sandwiches for all who served, in the Diner:

 

 Diner-4-troops by Edmund, on Flickr

 

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, November 11, 2023 12:26 AM

Definition Defiant:  Track Fiddler

Wink

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Posted by Track fiddler on Friday, November 10, 2023 11:54 PM

BroadwayLion

 

Top of the page! Lets go out and catch us some wildebeest.

 

Thanks for the scrumpdeliciousHuh?

Sometimes Grouse need a little peck of gravel along the road like that too, ...Wink

But they taste mighty good after the shotgun

 

But yes, you got me going, that the Wildebeest would make for a much more hearty mealDinner

 

TF

 

 

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