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Posted by up831 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:58 PM

Hi Everyone,

Brunhilda, a glass of Pinot Noir, please.

I am not a piano player per se, but I can say that there is a difference in sound between pianos. Steinway's don't have a lot of overtones that would make them sound "tinny".  The notes sound pretty solid.  That's the only way I can describe it.

Now guitars on the other hand have a wide range of sound differences.  Much of the differences are due to the wood used for the back and sides, but not exclusively.  What kind of double speak is this?  Example: mahogany back and sides will sound a little more on the treble side and rosewood will sound warmer; however, Taylor's will sound brighter with rosewood than Martin's.  Martin's will sound warmer than Taylor's with rosewood.  And of course, a Les Paul through a 100 watt Marshall is very distinctive, nothing else is like it Although Strat's come somewhat close.  I can't tell anymore, but back in the day I could often tell what the make and model of bass a player was playing and often what strings he was using.  Well, that was then.  
Sometimes YouTube has videos on comparing a $100 violin with a $100,000 violin, and various prices in between.  There is a difference in sound between quality instruments, but beyond a certain point, it really gets down to player preference.  I have a Martin D35 and I think it has the warmest sound of any guitar I've ever played.  IMHO it ranks up with a D45, but is about $5000 cheaper the last time I priced them.  But then, others may not agree and that's ok.

Nothing MRR to report this time.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:26 PM

York1

Today has been a great day, and it all started with bacon and eggs this morning.  I'm convinced.

Me too!

We had a fine day today, with temperatures about 60 and plenty of sunshine.  As it turned out, this is the Fire and Ice weekend, so we first went to our local firehouse for a chili cook-off between local restaurants,  and made several beer stops on the way home.  Perfect way to end the week.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 6:42 PM

Today has been a great day, and it all started with bacon and eggs this morning.  I'm convinced.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, January 28, 2023 3:31 PM

Track fiddler
Here's some more of that good "Black and Grey" stuffWhistling

Thanks, TF!

Some color...

 Like a Post Card by CG Tower, MP 142.3, on Flickr

 Wheeling at Williston by CG Tower, MP 142.3, on Flickr

 South Ottawa by CG Tower, MP 142.3, on Flickr

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Posted by Track fiddler on Saturday, January 28, 2023 2:26 PM

Good afternoon

My Mom, rest her soul, played an awesome classical piano.  Can't seem to recall the maker of that Baby Grand in our living room in Saint Louis Park, but Grandfather, (her Dad) got it for her birthday.  It was top of the line and there "IS" a significant difference in sound quality between some pianosSmile

A ghost across the screen of that new Budd Empire Builder dome car, was like watching an orange roll down a well seasoned smoke stack.  Blinked the first time and missed itLaugh...Wink

Here's some more of that good "Black and Grey" stuffWhistling

 

TF

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, January 28, 2023 1:49 PM

Good Morning All,

   Coffee, two eggs over medium, rye toast and sub fruit for the home fries please. 

   Another day in the shop getting ready for the first Florida trip. I also have a customer coming in to look at another car. 

   No progress on the layout and I was to have gone to Springfield for the train show today but it is more important to be here for the customer so....

   Bear - hope you are far enough south to have avoided the deluge that hit Auckland this week. People wading around in water above knee deep looks like no fun at all. 

   I had a Yamaha drum set for a time when I was stationed in Okinawa. It was ok. My favorite though was a fairly old Gretsch kit I had. Great sound and kept adjustment really well. It got stolen along with most of the rest of the bands gear when we were attending our lead guitarists funeral. None of it was ever recovered and we figured it was someone who knew us which made it worse.   

    All for now. Ciao, J.R.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 28, 2023 1:42 PM

It's  -17 Degrees out Here

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, January 28, 2023 12:25 PM

I've always found this fellow's videos entertaining:

I recall my mother had an old upright in our basement. One day she decided it was time for it to go. At about age nine I was given the task of "disassembling" it".

Most of the wood casing was easily removed and the action came out after removing a few brackets. Then I got to pound away at the cast iron plate. What fun!

I helped another guy who had the task of moving a piano into a basement. He cut a hole in the floor and borrowed a casket lowering winch from a funeral home to drop the into the hole. Actually pretty ingenious.


 

B&O fancy caboose:

 Caboose Right Side by CG Tower, MP 142.3, on Flickr

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:54 AM

If I modeled a suitable era, I would need to have one of these on my layout.

-Kevin

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, January 28, 2023 11:31 AM

Back when I was married with a young daughter, my ex-wife ended up with her family's piano when they finally decided to stop being snowbirds and just sell their Michigan home.  It was a no-name baby grand.  I think it had cracked soundboard and never did sound good.  The ex wanted Annie to learn to play it, but she never had any enthusiasm for it.  We ended up giving the piano away when we sold the house.

Annie ended up playing the guitar.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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Posted by CNCharlie on Saturday, January 28, 2023 10:26 AM

Good Morning,

A frosty -30 here with a -40 windchill but it is sunny.

John, a Bosendorfer piano is regarded as the finest piano made at least by some. They are manufactured in Austria. The price is very high. There was a dealer here many years ago and I remember the smallest grand was about 30k, the price of a large Mercedes back then. My wife had a Heintzman grand for many years that her fathet bought her. They were made in Toronto and were compared to Steinways. Hers was built in 1934. It had a fabulous deep tone and sounded great when she played a Rachmaninoff Prelude. Sadly it wore out and 25 years ago we were faced with an expensive rebuild or a new instrument. She bought a nearly new Baldwin baby grand as she always loved the sound ahd action of Baldwins. I learned a lot about the differences between piano makes from her as she had played on many. She has very acute hearing and sense of smell and taste. 

Today I plan on painting more of the bait shop. I am using Humbrol paints. I like the way they brush. Same little tin pots as they came in when I was a lad.

Time for more coffee.

CN Charlie

 

 

 

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, January 28, 2023 10:14 AM

York1
It was on a Bösendorfer, which I had never seen before. I honestly could not tell a difference between any of the brands I played. I've always heard that Steinways were the top of the line. I'm sure the diner's musician, Ray, can fill us in.

Mornin'!

Yes the Bösendorfer is considered one of the finest piano makers out there and has been for a long time.  I have played on a couple and IIRC they had a quite heavy touch which is liked by those who play a whole lot better than I.... LOL  They are wonderful in tone.

I started piano lessons when I was about 4th. grade...  I might have done well if I had "practiced", but....  At Eastman I was known as one of the few that actually played worse after two years of private study (had to pass an entrance exam to qualify - I was a Voice/Education Major)  Hated my teacher with a passion!!!  Oh well...  I did manage to get passing grades from her so I guess I did well enough.  She was very good at rolling her eyes when she told me maybe I should try practicing!

I was a Church Organist for a couple years at one point (glad I didn't have to sit and listen to my "renditions").

About a decade ago I had the thought that maybe I could get back into Classic Guitar and spent a small fortune on a Cordoba 45FOE.  Found that my hearing was so bad I couldn't even tune it..... Crying  It sits in its case in one of the spare bedrooms here. 

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 8:28 AM

York1
I honestly could not tell a difference between any of the brands I played.

Same here. If a piano was in tune, it sounded good to me.

I learned to play on a light brown upright. I have played dozens of different pianos, and they all sound the same. None of my daughters ever became seriously interested in studying music.

Wooden accoustic guitars have tones, but the expensive ones do not always sound the best to me.

My imported Squire Strat is the best sounding electric guitar I have owned. Selling my mid-60s Tele was an easy decision when a buyer came along.

-Kevin

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 8:17 AM

Good morning, diners.  I'll have bacon, eggs, and black coffee, Brunhilda.

I learned an important lesson yesterday.  I did not have bacon and eggs in the morning, and nothing went right the rest of the day.  Trains derailed and uncoupled, glue wouldn't dry where I wanted, my wife disliked me more than normal, and I slipped on the ice while getting the mail.  I may have bacon and eggs for both breakfast and lunch to make up yesterday.

Our house no longer has a piano.  My daughters all learned on it, and we have shipped it to Texas for our oldest granddaughter.  I don't mind not having it here.  I haven't played the piano in years.

Brands of pianos -- when our daughters took lessons in Louisiana, we had to have the normal recitals.  It was nice listening to my kids play their pieces, but it was torture to sit through all the pieces played by other people's kids.

For one of the recitals, it was at a piano store, and the teacher had me and one of the daughters play a duet.  It was on a Bösendorfer, which I had never seen before.  I honestly could not tell a difference between any of the brands I played.  I've always heard that Steinways were the top of the line.  I'm sure the diner's musician, Ray, can fill us in.

It's good to hear from everyone.  Hope y'all have a great day.

Notice this engineer is not coming down off the locomotive:

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, January 28, 2023 8:05 AM

hon30critter
You can post anything related to trains, real or modeled, that suits your fancy! This should be a very interesting month!

Here is the wreck crane from the North Carolina Museum Of Transportation outside of the roundhouse.

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

I hope all are well this morning.

-Kevin

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:43 AM

Good Morning All,

   Coffee, two eggs over medium, rye toast and sub fruit for the home fries please. 

   Another day in the shop getting ready for the first Florida trip. I also have a customer coming in to look at another car. 

   No progress on the layout and I was to have gone to Springfield for the train show today but it is more important to be here for the customer so....

   Bear - hope you are far enough south to have avoided the deluge that hit Auckland this week. People wading around in water above knee deep looks like no fun at all. 

   I had a Yamaha drum set for a time when I was stationed in Okinawa. It was ok. My favorite though was a fairly old Gretsch kit I had. Great sound and kept adjustment really well. It got stolen along with most of the rest of the bands gear when we were attending our lead guitarists funeral. None of it was ever recovered and we figured it was someone who knew us which made it worse.   

    All for now. Ciao, J.R.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, January 28, 2023 7:38 AM

 

The Diner's looking a little sparse lately:

 Free Continental Breakfast by jgurbisz, on Flickr

 

Thank you to all who have shared condolences for Whoopie. Eighteen years is a good run of love and companionship with her. 

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How did you get the photo with the mouse?  That's incredible.

Whoopie chased and played with that mouse for over an hour one morning in November of 2005. Eventually the mouse made a run for a nearby tree and scooted right up.

 Whoopie and Friend by Edmund, on Flickr


 

For years we easterners were told "You can't have dome cars because of the clearances". So take a look at this old film taken right on the east slope of the PRR's main line and witness not only a dome car but a brand new Budd Empire Builder Great Dome!

All those Budd domes had to get from Philly (Red Lion) to the western roads somehow! Keep rolling to see a Wabash F unit, too!

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by "JaBear" on Friday, January 27, 2023 10:33 PM

York1
I believe they are cleaning the flues by forcing sand into the firebox, and the sand  is drafted up into the flues.  It's then collected in the car alongside.

 I think you’re right, York1John. Although I was under the impression that it was usually done with the sand introduced into the firebox, while the locomotive was on the move.
However, if steam was raised and a good draft being created, there is no good reason why it can’t be done as shown.
After all, just because the Bear has not seen something before, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened!!
Thanks for sharing that interesting photo.
 
Here’ a video of how the Brits cleaned a steam locomotive in the 50s.
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
Cheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 27, 2023 9:40 PM

York1
Are the wires easy to run to the lights, or will you have to get into attic space to run them?

I am linking them to the lighting in the ceiling fans that are on the back porch, so the wires are very easy to run.

I just had to remove one ceiling fan and the mounting box, then fish the wire about five feet to the soffit eave. Since there is no insulation over my back porch, this was a piece of cake.

I am using 14/2 UF-B wiring to connect all the lights in the soffit. The wire is run along the inside of the eaves and fastened every 24 inches.

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Posted by York1 on Friday, January 27, 2023 9:16 PM

SeeYou190
I decided to add ten LED lights in the soffit along the back of the house.

 

Are the wires easy to run to the lights, or will you have to get into attic space to run them?

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Friday, January 27, 2023 8:00 PM

Well, the first twelve feet of the new soffit is up.

I will work on it more tomorrow. Now that I have the templates and measurements all made, it should go faster now.

I decided to add ten LED lights in the soffit along the back of the house.

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Posted by howmus on Friday, January 27, 2023 6:10 PM

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Mike, we have a 1970 Yamaha G-2 in excellent condition.

My first good guitar which I bought after my first year teaching was a Yamaha Classic.  They were at that time considered to be some of the very best and were being used by many professionals.  I used that guitar for over 35 years and litterally wore it out.  I had worn the frets down where the strings touched them almost to the finger board.  That guitar lasted me my entire teaching carreer.  Played it in school daily and also professionally.  That said, the guitar that made my get goosebumps when I played it was a 400 year old spanish hand made one that is at the Smithsonian Instituion in Washington.  Happened to be in the right place at the right time, asked a question of the guy demonstrating lutes and guitars.  He asked me if I play.  I said yes, and he handed me the guitar and I played a piece by J. S. Bach.  Bach, BTW played Lute more often than Pipe Organ in the church back then. (It took three people to use the organ.  One to play it and two to pump air for it!)  He wrote many Lute Preludes for use in church.

Yamaha, at least at that time made excellent instruments.  I have played on several Yamaha pianos which were also very beautiful tone and felt good under the fingers.

A lady I go places with from time to time was a Special Ed teacher but at one time owned a Steinway Concert Grand.  She ended up selling that to a piano professor at the Eastman School of Music (where I studied).  He lives not far from where she lives and he lets her visit his home and play "her" piano!!! 

73

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 27, 2023 3:45 PM

York1
I believe they are cleaning the flues by forcing sand into the firebox, and the sand  is drafted up into the flues.  It's then collected in the car alongside.

I think that is exactly what they are doing. I saw a Youtube video of them doing it once.

My Bud and I knocked off 7.64km average pace 6.56km/hr.

After three large mugs of Tim Hortons, the trees come in handy, the dog is not the only one watering them.Laugh Good thing I am not in the city, someone would call the cops. Did not see a soul today, it was perfect.

Bacon and eggs coming right up.

Best Bud in the world.

Brent

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, January 27, 2023 2:48 PM

Good evening Diners.  A quick visit as we have grandchildren here visiting.

 

Serbia.

Old railway signalling

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhFVQFnOltY&ab_channel=dulevoz

 

Enjoy

 

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Posted by York1 on Friday, January 27, 2023 2:17 PM

Attuvian1
This is a great photo!  I'm immediately intrigued by the gizmo in the lower left corner diverting exhaust into the hopper, presumably to capture particulates of some sort.  But just how efficient could this process have been? 

 

I believe they are cleaning the flues by forcing sand into the firebox, and the sand  is drafted up into the flues.  It's then collected in the car alongside.

Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can give a better answer.

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Posted by BATMAN on Friday, January 27, 2023 1:25 PM

Good morning from the cloudy Pacific Rim where it is 6c.

Sigh My daughter can't come home this weekend as she just got slammed with work. We are two weeks away from reading week where she comes home for a week. Can't wait.Cowboy

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My daughter also plays piano and I too can't wait to hear it again.  My mom played piano, so hearing a piano playing in the house just seems right.  It's good for the soul.  Our piano is not quite the same as yours though.  It's an over 100 year old Hobart Cable upright that spent a good portion of it's life as a church piano.  It's old and was well loved and shows evidence of that, but it still plays beautifully.

Mike, we have a 1970 Yamaha G-2 in excellent condition. It was my mother's and it will be my daughter's when she settles down and is not an on-the-move student. I get it tuned a couple of times a year and the piano tuner says that he will buy it from us in an instant if we ever want to sell it. I can't see my daughter ever selling it as it means too much to her.

When my daughter comes home I pick her up at the ferry and we always pick up sushi on the way home at our favourite restaurant. I may just go get it tonight anyway.

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Well that sounds interesting.  A Chupacabra that wandered too far north?    Do keep us posted if they figure out what it is.  

When it comes to the stuff she has been presented with, there have been some interesting samples. They can run a lot of tests, but in the end, they can say what it isn't, not what it is if no one has ever seen one before. Interesting work.

I am also going to have a huge feed of bacon and eggs this morning, but first I will hit the trail with my Bud. I usually burn about 700 to 1000 calories on our scoots, that is a lot of bacon and eggs. I have been back at it with the exercise after taking time off. My BP is back down a good 10+ points and my RHR is back down around 40 and I feel great.

Another mug of Tims first.

Dave, here is your next project. It looks a little easier than the plough.LaughSmile, Wink & Grin

All the best to all.

 

Brent

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Friday, January 27, 2023 11:22 AM

York and I are deliberately trying to confuse the other patrons.  I'm having his eggs - and bacon.  There can never be too many Johns in a diner, especially when it's busy.

I recall a college-age Bible study group that coalesced at my church in Michigan almost 50 years ago.  When we are mostly all in attendance there were seven Johns.  The girls certainly appreciated it.  Laugh

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Friday, January 27, 2023 11:12 AM

York1
Good morning, diners.  Pancakes for breakfast today. 

Flo, would you please go check the ID of the gentleman in the corner there?  He claims to be John, but John only eats bacon and eggs.  We must find out who this imposter is! Clown

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Posted by Attuvian1 on Friday, January 27, 2023 11:09 AM

York1

Good morning, diners.  Pancakes for breakfast today. 

It's a beautiful day outside -- sunny, no wind, temperatures in the 30s.  Of course, snow is predicted for the weekend.Sad

I just noticed that the Lincoln, Nebraska Area Railway Historical Society Show is coming up in several weeks.  It is a nice show to attend.  It's not as large as many shows in major cities, but for out here on the sparsely-populated plains, it's a good place to see trains and visit vendor booths.

Have a great day, everyone.

 

 
This is a great photo!  I'm immediately intrigued by the gizmo in the lower left corner diverting exhaust into the hopper, presumably to capture particulates of some sort.  But just how efficient could this process have been?  And would the facility have just dumped what they recovered elsewhere?  And if so, why not just blow them out on the way out of town as seemed to be common practice in that day.  If they were not simply  discarded, what could they be used for - or turned into?  So many questions.  Brunhilda, a piece of that cherry pie to assist my contemplations, please.  Perhaps Overmod will weigh in.
 
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Posted by York1 on Friday, January 27, 2023 10:22 AM

Good morning, diners.  Pancakes for breakfast today. 

It's a beautiful day outside -- sunny, no wind, temperatures in the 30s.  Of course, snow is predicted for the weekend.Sad

I just noticed that the Lincoln, Nebraska Area Railway Historical Society Show is coming up in several weeks.  It is a nice show to attend.  It's not as large as many shows in major cities, but for out here on the sparsely-populated plains, it's a good place to see trains and visit vendor booths.

Have a great day, everyone.

 

York1 John       

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