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Welcome to Jeffrey's Trackside Diner for December, 2020 in England!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:04 AM

Douglas.    Each Railway Company had their own 'Royal Coach'.    Here is a London & North Western Railway  (LNWR)  Royal Coach of 1884.

 

 

The  Streamlined engines of London & North Eastern Railway (LNER)  and  LNWR 

had 'skirts' that covered half their wheels.    When due servicing etc.  the skirts were removed for access.   When servicing was done during WW2 (which was not often due to the urgency of needing the locomotives)  the skirts were sometimes left off.

Coffee  Coffee time.    

The Elizabethan Express.

 

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:18 AM

Happy (?) Monday everyone.  Chloe, can I get a large stack of blueberry pancakes please?  Thanks.

I was poking around on Ebay this weekend and see the holiday vultures are out.  It's amazing how much some sellers will jack up prices this time of year.  Found several used locomotives with a starting price of well more than a new one of the same make/model.  Incredible.  Wonder how much the prices will drop after the holidays.  Never looked then.  Thoughts and prayers to those that need them.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, December 7, 2020 8:01 AM

Well, now it is 9:00 and the window installation crew is not here yet.

I am so steamed right now that I think I could bite a 10d nail in two.

Angry

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 7, 2020 8:34 AM

Kevin, I am sorry to hear as well. We are frustrated as well, but we are the ones that cancelled due to my son being sick, it is still frustrating. Trying to live without a kitchen is challenging. It wasn't so bad when we still had a sink but I took that out Saturday.Sigh

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Posted by Jimmy_Braum on Monday, December 7, 2020 8:42 AM

Hey all.   Hope all are well

Been through contactor headaches myself: well a Comcast installer headache 

The guy came out to install cable, bit said he "couldn't drill through double brick wall".  So he gave up. I had to have a contractor drill the whole  (AND INSTALL THE WIRE), While still paying for that worthless lazy tech.

 

Anyway, heres a video from my club, a ride onboard video.

 

(My Model Railroad, My Rules) 

These are the opinions of an under 35 , from the east end of, and modeling, the same section of the Wheeling and Lake Erie railway.  As well as a freelanced road (Austinville and Dynamite City railroad).  

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Posted by York1 on Monday, December 7, 2020 8:42 AM

Good morning.

Kevin, you'd better lock yourself in another room when those guys finally show up.  We wouldn't want you to be taken away in handcuffs and charged with assault.

My wife went to get a covid test.  We also have no-wait testing.  Drive up and get tested.  They did a two part -- one instant, which said negative, and the other takes a day or two.  We don't believe she has it, since she can still smell me.

Jimmy, thanks for the video.  That's one thing on my Christmas list - a camera small enough to fit on an N Scale flatcar.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, December 7, 2020 10:35 AM

The crew finally showed up at 10:00. It is now 11:30, and they have broken for lunch.

They did get the new frame installed for the sliding Lanai door.

I have been busy taking down more popcorn from the living room.

If they don't come back...

I'm sure they are coming back. They left all their tools here!

Edit: It just started raining!

We never get rain in December... what is happening?

-Kevin

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 7, 2020 1:07 PM

MusicMonday — MondayMusic

Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day

Things are shaping up for a relatively calm week here in NE Ohio, weather-wise. Even into the mid-40s toward the end of the week ParadiseParadiseParadise

The mail carrier just stopped by with my "New" Union Station kit Smile It only took twelve days to send the "Priority" two-day package from North Carolina to Ohio.

More on the new Union Station later Yes

Meanwhile...

I stumbled across this excellent vintage film about making Sunblest Bread as only the British could do it —

Here's part one:

 

I just love these vintage Pathé and BBC Newsreels and films.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, December 7, 2020 1:23 PM

Good afternoon .... 

David .... I watched the video of The Elizabethan Express with locomotive 60017, Silver Fox. Very nice. I'll watch the other videos later. Thanks for sharing. ... I like the photo of the luxury passenger carriage, too. It reminds me of the royal train in the museum in York which was used by Queen Victoria in the late 1800's. They had the complete train with its locomotive in the museum. 

.... 

Everybody : Have a good day. 

 

GARRY

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:06 PM

Garry.   Yes, the Royal Trains were luxurious.  Well most of them were.   In Victorian times   the little Companies could not afford to have such luxury.   They just 'smartened up the chosen train'  and Queen Victoria had to accept it.  Mind'st you the smaller lines did not travel far.

Royal Trains


 

Enjoy

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:16 PM

Well,  I just got back from working some misc. jobs for a crippled lady in the building.  It wasn't very pleasant whatsoever.  There were only paths for her wheel chair in her place.  

Obviously she is a hoarder and I have no idea being crippled how she got all that crap up there.  To do my job I had to move things and had nowhere to put them so I would just put them in the path behind me.

While I was workinging under the bathroom sink she had to use it.  So I had to put all the crap out of the way into the bathtub while she watched me.  It was kind of weird, I think she was lonely and just wanted someone to talk to which is understandable I guess.

She was looking over my shoulder the whole time I was there and I tend to dislike that.  Because of this it was really slowing me down because she would be in my way when I had to move to do things or go get something.

Then to switch places with her she had to back up until we got to a turnout in the junkLaugh so she could get out of my way.  

She was a nice enough lady and all but I have no idea in the world how anybody could live that way.  I was so happy when I was done so I could get out of there.

 

I'm glad your guys finally showed up today Kevin.  Looks like you made a lot of headway on that ceiling.  I tried a pull scraper to do that once and it just doesn't work.  It always catches and gouges. 

I always have to get up there and scrape it by hand for it to work out.  And darned if I do darned if I don't wear goggles to keep the crap out of my eyes.  They fog up and I can't see so I usually get the stuff in my eyesSad

Well back home now to relax, have an ice cold brewski or three or fourLaughWhistling and work on the bridge again.

 

P.S.  I'm glad your station kit finally showed up for you EdYes

 

Have a good evening all

 

 

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:48 PM

Track fiddler
P.S.  I'm glad your station kit finally showed up for you Ed  

Thanks, TF! One thing I just discovered about eBay when I was writing my "feedback" is that I was planning to report that it took so long to arrive BUT eBay had "adjusted" the expected delivery date to TODAY so in their stance the box arrived On Time!

I have the email the seller sent when he shipped it on the 27th of November saying it would arrive by December 1!

I'm STILL waiting for two Tsunami decoders that were shipped from Streamlined Backshop back on Nov. 23, Priority Mail! Tracking says they just arrived in Cleveland (OH not TN)

Our postal "service" has turned to JUNK. I got a package sent by Tichy in North Carolina that was delivered in just under 48 hours by UPS!

OK, rant over...

Cheers, Ed

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:58 PM

Ed.   Your Postal Service is not the only one that is rubbish.   Here in the U K deliveries are once a week.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, December 7, 2020 3:02 PM

gmpullman
Our postal "service" has turned to JUNK.

I have a law firm in Seattle that is working in tandem with my Canadian law firm on this Estate I am dealing with. Every time I talk to the Seattle one she apologizes and says every Government Department we have to deal with has just fallen to pieces in the last couple of years. What should take two weeks is now taking nine months. Because of this, it looks like I will have to get the judge to grant an extension to the settlement parameters if the beneficiary complains.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, December 7, 2020 3:03 PM

gmpullman
Our postal "service" has turned to JUNK.

I'm sorry you are having problems Ed.

I guess I have been lucky. My "Black Friday" package from Kadee arrived in three days from Oregon via USPS. Last week I sent my daughter in Seattle a game by priority mail, and she had it in two days.

BATMAN
What should take two weeks is now taking nine months.

Like getting a building permit in Cape Coral to change the streetside elevation of your house?

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Posted by York1 on Monday, December 7, 2020 3:04 PM

Ed, glad you finally got your station.

I've had the opposite thing happen to me.  I ordered some things last week from North Carolina.  The Post Office had it to to me in Nebraska in three days.

On the other hand, my wife ordered some things from a closer distance that came by UPS and it took over a week.

I guess none of the shippers were prepared for the pandemic and Christmas at the same time.

 

Top of the page:  Here in the Midwest it's getting to be late afternoon -- time for happy hour.  I'm having beer, but it sounds from this forum like I may be buying Scotch for quite a few people today.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 3:34 PM

gmpullman

Our postal "service" has turned to JUNK. I got a package sent by Tichy in North Carolina that was delivered in just under 48 hours by UPS!

Cheers, Ed

 

 

I would have to say I agree with you Ed.

My old school miniature mining cars took forever to get here priority mail.  I would have gladly paid an extra five bucks for UPS or FedEx shipping.  Nothing's worse than being like a little Kid running to the mailbox every day only to be disappointed.

I was building my left mountain range at the time and needed those cars to determine spacing to position The gulch where I will put the twin tipples to service the mining cars.

Well, I switched gears and got the mining cars too late and have not returned to that mountain range project since.

The fact that UPS does such a good job I think they should return to their original slogan they used back in the day.

"We run the tightest ship in the shipping business" Laugh..... They do!

 

e-Bay changes the date of your delivery arrival so it was on time indeedLaugh

That's like the last time I had knee surgery and it really freaked me out when they gave me a sticker to put on my knee that required surgery.  I asked the nurse are you kidding me and she said no, it's a new liability thing.

Had I not known the surgeon that's a friend of our family I would have probably got up and left.  I guess surgeons have operated on the wrong leg just like dentists have pulled the wrong tooth.  I don't know,  I guess I would have to say there's nothing worse than a doctor's hangover.

Your eBay thing would be like the surgeon operating on the wrong knee and after the patient wakes up and tells him he did the wrong knee.  He could peel the sticker off and put it on the other leg and say "There you go" LaughLaugh

 

 

WinkTF

 

P.S.  You know, ...I have been known to miss things before but it seems to me I haven't heard from Mr B (Mr. Beasley) around here lately.  And I've always liked that guy

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 7, 2020 3:38 PM

York1
Ed, glad you finally got your station.

Here she is, like a new penny!

 Walthers_Everett-Station-open by Edmund, on Flickr

Walthers is re-issuing this kit but it has been delayed since February (to my advantage) but the one shown is a "new-old stock from the first-run in 2007. Made in Denmark and, IMHO, a better quality than the recent Walthers kits.

Plus I found it at about half the cost of the new one. Cha-ching! Big Smile

Sometimes the Post Office has really surprised me with super-quick service. This seems to be happening with MUCH less frequency. Of course, I've had my run-ins with UPS, too and another mail-order house I deal with uses Fed-Ex and they have an odd routing method that takes over a week to travel some 400 miles from seller to buyer.

Speaking of cheese — has anyone tried putting crumbled Feta cheese over diced watermelon? Dinner Smile

I have about fifteen minutes of daylight left, time to re-fill the bird feeders.

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, December 7, 2020 4:34 PM

Track fiddler
I guess surgeons have operated on the wrong leg just like dentists have pulled the wrong tooth.  I don't know,  I guess I would have to say there's nothing worse than a doctor's hangover.

I'm always fascinated when I hear stories about a "simple misunderstanding" that leads to tragic consequences.

In Cleveland a guy came home after work to find his house was gone. What? Oh, yeah, the contractor that was razing houses had the house number right but one small detail, he was on E. 134th St instead of E. 143rd! You think somebody would have looked in one of the windows first? Good thing no one was in the house!

Doctors? I recall reading a story about TWO surgeons that performed surgery on a patient's brain. Not long afterward it was realized that they cut away on the wrong side of the brain leaving the patient in a forever vegetative state.

As I recall they, or someone, had an x-ray backwards on the light-box. Maybe doctor A figured doctor B would have caught it or vice-versa.

One particular guy, Doctor Arbit in New york, did this twice! Both his patients died.

An engineer and fireman got so involved in trying to get the steam generator running that they ran a red signal. Oops.

TF, I hadn't heard of stickers but I have been aware that patients had to make their own "dotted lines" using a Sharpie marker on their own appendage.

As far as legal documents go, our county offers legal services to seniors for $25. per visit. Dee Ann and I got all our wills and directives written or updated plus I had the deed to the house made TOD all for two visits at fifty-bucks total. I'm sure all the papers we had drawn up would have run at least two-grand from the average attorney.

Anyone who hasn't looked into updating their end of life directives should see if their state, province or county offers senior legal services at reduced rates. Paid off for us.

Cheers, Ed

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, December 7, 2020 4:40 PM

gmpullman
Doctors? I recall reading a story about TWO surgeons that performed surgery on a patient's brain. Not long afterward it was realized that they cut away on the wrong side of the brain leaving the patient in a forever vegetative state.

When my wife has had surgery, they write all over her with sharpy as they discuss the procedure with her. There is no way they could make a mistake unless they are completely incompetent.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Monday, December 7, 2020 4:58 PM

Good Afternoon,

A quarter to five and it is getting dark,

We had some excitement at the bird feeders today, a male and 2 female white winged Crossbills were visiting. Rare to see them here but there are a lot of spruce and pines in the neighbourhood.

Our heatwave will be with us for 2 more days then back to our regularly schedule winter.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 5:28 PM

So anyway,  good to here all you good people tonight

I never heard of grossbills Charlie.  I wonder if they are the same with just different terminology.  We had a lot of grosbeaks up at the resort that frequently visited the bird feeders as I grew up there.

Bird feeders remind me of not too long ago and my buddy Erv out at Prior Lake.

You should see the stock piles of bird food bags in the garage.

He had this clever squirrel that was more talented at climbing things than the other squirrels.  He insisted on climbing up the galvanized posts wrapping his arms around there and ramshackiling the bird feeders.

It was the funniest thing I ever saw.  Erv took a clay pigeon launcher on the railing of the deck, attached a string to the activation lever and brought it in the sliding glass door.  He put some really good food on it that squirrels like.

The Squirrel would get on the launcher eating the food and Erv would pull the string and fling him across the yard.

The laughter I tell you and that squirrel was stupid enough to come up and do it again an hour laterLaugh

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, December 7, 2020 5:34 PM

Thanks Ed for remembering Pearl Harbor Day.  The grandson of the Admiral of the Arizona is a dear friend of mine.  The first time I was at his home, he had a plaque from his father from the UDT.  Given his age, I thought his father might have had something to do with the creation of the Navy UDT.  I googled his name and found out my friend looks exactly like his grandfather.  I haven't asked, but I heard all they found of his grandfather was his class ring welded to the deck.


I don't know why anyone would want a popcorn ceiling.

The weirdest story, that I know for a fact happened, was the surgeon operated on the wrong side for an appendectomy.   There can be left sided appendixes, but this was not one of those and everyone in the OR watched him prep, drap and cut without asking what the heck are you doing.

We had a tiny bit of snow this am.  Not enough to make things pretty, but cold enough to discover that my HVAC doesn't defrost itself and makes a big racket.  We discovered that last week, but they didn't get it fixed right then.  There was also a high pitched noise from the cold air return.  The vent fins are adjustable and they changed the angle of all the fins and that noise went away.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 7, 2020 5:44 PM

Must buy some Wensleydale cheese  to put on the Christmas cake.

 

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 5:55 PM

While chiming in and talking to you guys I got my sixth Bridge installed on the layout.

It's a three-part Bridge and the main Warren truss design of it was constructed five years ago when I had knee surgery.

I spent the better part of Sunday missing the football game working on installing it but did not finish.  It's been sitting around so long it's gotten weathered.  It will need to be cleaned up before paint.

I'm getting close to the end of all my scratch built bridges so I can lay my track!

I'm starting to get real excited about running trains soon.  Maybe before spring perhaps.

 

 

Smile, Wink & GrinTF

 

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Posted by York1 on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:03 PM

Dec. 7, 1941, my father was stationed at Ft. Lewis, Washington, and my mother was living near there.  They weren't married yet, but decided on that Sunday to drive up to see Paradise Inn on Mt. Rainier.  Along the way, people were stopped, and they found out about Pearl Harbor.

My mother said that it was so traumatic -- she felt like it was the end of the world.

They turned the car around and Dad headed back to base.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:15 PM

HEY JOHN!

I think you missed a post when I talked to you about three days ago.  I think you missed it because it's unlike you not to get back to me.  You said you got new countertops and cabinets.

I remember quite a while ago about a year or two back when you talked about how you went to work and your wife happened to find your Sawzall.

She cut the wall dividing the kitchen from your living room to open it up.  Much to your surprise you came home and found the conduit and all the guts of the wall hanging from your ceiling and realized how much work you would have to do.

I don't know,  it struck me as funny and now that you have your kitchen counters and cabinets I'm just curious how all that work you had to do on your own years ago went for you?

 

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:21 PM

Two more stories.  The USPS says I have a package coming to VA,  It left TN on the 27th, went to Reno, was in LA on the 1st and is still "in transit"

I was working with a urologist and told him about a story I read, where a urologist did a vascectomy on a friend on St Patricks day.  He painted the adjacent structure green as a joke and got sued.  The urologist said "that was me"

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Posted by York1 on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:24 PM

TF -- thanks!  I remember posting that a while back.

My wife watches HGTV and DIY, and sees people knocking down walls, and then, after the commercial, the wall is magically finished with outlets and plumbing all in the right places.

It took a lot of wiring, and I had to relocate a vent pipe and a cold air return, but the worst was just what the topic in the Diner has been -- patching the ceiling where the walls were.  Our ceiling is "Crow's Feet" texture, which I don't mind.  But I had a terrible time, and I finally called some guys I know who came and did it for me.  They actually did it so well you cannot tell where the ceiling repairs were.

It's an art, and I know you are very good at it.  If you lived closer, I could have had you do it, and I could have paid you with some beers and train running!

That Sawzall was my favorite tool until she found out how to use it.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, December 7, 2020 6:40 PM

York1

That Sawzall was my favorite tool until she found out how to use it.

 

LaughLaughLaughLaugh

The key word is (was) John

Funny stuff

My wife has gadgets that I don't even know what they do!  Judy has never grabbed my Sawzall but if she ever did, it would be like giving a monkey a hand grenadeLaugh

All in Good Humor John, I love Judy and don't really mean that.

Well I'm glad you got that all worked out.  That was quite a while ago and I needed a little closureLaugh

And you're right.  Had I've lived a little closer, I would have taken care of that for you. 

I spent many of evenings burning the midnight oil with friends and beers and fun and laughter taking care of things.

Those are the friends that always came back and helped me with something they knew more about than me.  That's what makes everything all worthwhileYes

 

 

SmileTF

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