Good morning.
Regarding this months destination..... We said Tennessee and Kentucky .... We did not say Appalacia. .... There plenty of railroad sites throughout TN and KY.... ...
We should be talking about all of TN and KY as was discssed previoisly.
Regarding who starts the thread.... Of course it is good to volunteer to do that, but talk about it before hand..... The person doing it should have already let it be known they will do it. ... Perhaps, Ulrich was already spending his time with starting the new thread. he wasted his time because Steven NWP SWP did not let anybody know ahead of time of his intentions. ... Common courtesy should have been exercised.
Brent .... If you ever get to Nashville with your wife, let me know.... I am about 100 miles northwest of Nashville.
Ed .... Your photos look great.
So..... Here is a photo I took in Nashville, TN....... It is not Appalacia. It is, however, in Tennessee which is consistant with previous discussions.
Nashville is a hub of CSX. Big trains roll through downtown. There is a large freight yard south of downtown. The large building was Union Station, but now it is an upscale hotel and restaurant.
Here is another view from the bridge over the tracks. 6410 is a GP40-2 working with a road slug (not in photo ) hauling a MOW train. .
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Morning Folks!
Well I guess I should've made my intentions public, my bad.
Bear, what was wrong with the RIP track? I copied it directly from Ulrichs version.
Well I'll be around!
The riverboat tour as when we were in the deep south has been scheduled.
Please keep posting the pictures!
Steve
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!
Greetings from Western KY
Since we were supposed too be in all of TN and KY here is a picture in Paducah of steam sometime in the 1960's or 70;s juding by the phone booth on the left side of picture
This is the Jackson street overpass of the P&I ( Paducah and Illinois, a joint owned 16 mile RR owned by IC ( now CN) the CB&Q( Now BNSF) and P&L)
This area sure has changed.
A picture of the Illinios Central Hospital in Paducah KY unde contruction in 1919. This building still stands about 20 blocks from me. It is now known as the Katterjohn Building but now stands empty and in dissrepair.
Morning all.
So, Ky and Tn this month. Ok. I can go for that.
Next month, Vermont for the leaves, should be good. Possibly near peak color time. I like that idea Steve O.
November in the Great Lakes could be interesting, as the weather could be nice, or not so nice....
Ken - Hope the leaking AC is fixed, and hoping the best for the health issues.
Garry and MoeLarryCurly - Seeing as we are nearby, any objections to a few of us diners popping in to say hello?
Got a pleasant surprise, as I recently won a bay item I figured I would be way outbid on. Seems that this one slipped through everyone's radar, so I just ended up with a group of 3-bay coal hoppers for $9 a car. Not bad. (I went with a max bid of $10 per car, counting shipping. There were several sets, and the others all went way higher, so I expected to miss this one as well.)
Add in the decals needed for the repaint, and I will have $12 per car in expenses, plus the miniscule amount for black craft paint, (I airbrush basic colors with craft paint thinned properly with the correct agents.) and the already on-hand metal wheelsets and Kadee's, and I will have another set of hoppers ready to load. (This group will represent the new[er] rebuilt cars floating around the NS system.)
W*^k front - Decent day yesterday at the new j*b, hitting a spiff and having a decent commission for the day. The not so fun part was that the phone line was down, so, the security and fire alarms kept malfunctioning, as they couldn't communicate with their respective monitoring offices... So, that got annoying real quick! (Nothing like setting off a burglar alarm unintentionally while customers are on the salesfloor!)
Car - Did rear brakes and rotors, and now I have a "dust shield" rubbing now.... Grr...
Hope all are well, and all enjoy the day!
Ricky W.
HO scale Proto-freelancer.
My Railroad rules:
1: It's my railroad, my rules.
2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.
3: Any objections, consult above rules.
ricktrains4824 Garry and MoeLarryCurly - Seeing as we are nearby, any objections to a few of us diners popping in to say hello?
Rick .... Sounds good to me. ..... Let us know.
MLC .... We still need to get together.
The restraint exhibited by you old timers is admirable.
Tinplate ToddlerLet´s go easy with our eager pup wolf Steven - just remember it isn´t easy for a young one to howl with the old wolves!
True, but everyone knows what happens if the young wolf's howling gets out of line. Sometimes some not so gentle direction is required.
It should also be pointed out that if you happen to not like meatloaf and not say anything, you will be served meatloaf for the rest of your life.
maxman It should also be pointed out that if you happen to not like meatloaf and not say anything, you will be served meatloaf for the rest of your life.
I like meatloaf. Especially the way my mom made it when I was a kid: with onions and green peppers and red peppers and garlic and diced up celery and whatnot . . .
I also like donuts. Friday is donut day at the office. There is one guy who is always the first one in the break room picking up each and every donut before choosing one for himself. That is very annoying. And a little gross. Pass.
Robert
LINK to SNSR Blog
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Here are some more pictures from our western Ky tour
In the 1950's the IC decided to replace the Wickliffe KY to Cairo IL bridge that had been built in 1889.
Here is a sequence on replacing one span.
Garry: yes we still need to get together.
NWP SWP. . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . .
I am a little confused about the "problem." If Ulrich is 4-7 hours ahead of us and he opens the diner at his leisure, the diner is open before any of us are rubing the sleep out of our eyes. Where's the problem?
Richard
Well.... Deep subject! Howdy Doody Folks.... I see we got's done moved into Ken-tucky and Tenny-See for the month.... At least wez all friends in here. And sometimes findin' friends ain't that easy for us railroady types.
Frankly, I was hoping we might to get to visit a few old Caboose towns while we was here. They done had one of them near Waverly, NY which was just at the Northern end of Appalacia back when I were teachin' there.... Until the county and a town decided to fix that problem and done went in and bulldozed all them cabooses down (they gave the indigents living there 24 hours to vacate though). That helped a lot except them folks just started campin' out on roadsides near larger towns making the "Well to Do" folks real mad!
I did teach many, many kids who lived a half mile walk away from the nearest road and lived in old junk trailers with no electricity, running water, or central heat. They had a good meal whenever dad or Uncle Sid was successful finding some animal to shoot for supper...... Remember the Art Garfuncle Song about Mary ("but she shone like a gem, in a five and dime store")? I taught that kid. Like most of them they were wonderful, sweet kids that had no chance.
I was thinking this morning about one kid in particular who didn't dare talk to a teacher until she was at the end of 5th. grade. I was the first adult outside her family she ever talked to! Fear can be a powerful thing. The next year she even got brave and joined chorus.... Turned out she had a beautiful little voice!
Enough of that stuff!
Anyway, I do think we all need to be a bit more gentle to some of the young guys on here as we sometimes get into situations ourselves...
Hope all of you have a good day, and enjoy wherever it is we ended up!!! Just remember:
73 my friends!
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Good afternoon. Another warm sunny day in paradise here on the West Coast.
Got the kid off to Ottawa this morning with well over a 100lbs of luggage. He has about an hour to go and will be back with his friends from last year.
Moelarrycurly, those are great bridge pic's, thanks for posting. Garry, If I ever get near Nashville I'll be sure to give you a shout. I have been to more States than I haven't been to, that region is about all that is left to see. Flying over doesn't count. We have the usual big Saturday night crowd in for dinner tonight. I am kinda tired so I may grab a snooze which is something I rarely do. Usually when I have gotten off my exercise routine is when I get tired during the day, but this time it was just a lousy sleep last night. Watched parts of the John McCain service. I always liked that guy as he seemed to be such a decent guy. I read something a long time ago that if you want to really know what kind of politicians you have working for you. Get the views of those from around the world, not at home. They see the person from a different perspective. When I have applied that to Canadian politicians I find they get a pretty fair shake, good or bad. It will be a deadbeat day for me today, so I better get on with doing nothing. All the best to all.
Moelarrycurly, those are great bridge pic's, thanks for posting.
Garry, If I ever get near Nashville I'll be sure to give you a shout. I have been to more States than I haven't been to, that region is about all that is left to see. Flying over doesn't count.
We have the usual big Saturday night crowd in for dinner tonight. I am kinda tired so I may grab a snooze which is something I rarely do. Usually when I have gotten off my exercise routine is when I get tired during the day, but this time it was just a lousy sleep last night.
Watched parts of the John McCain service. I always liked that guy as he seemed to be such a decent guy. I read something a long time ago that if you want to really know what kind of politicians you have working for you. Get the views of those from around the world, not at home. They see the person from a different perspective. When I have applied that to Canadian politicians I find they get a pretty fair shake, good or bad.
It will be a deadbeat day for me today, so I better get on with doing nothing.
All the best to all.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Good afternoon
My head hurts. Holy cow did I get ripped last night. My work partner told me to try that Surly Furious. I think that beer is 7% on the Richter scale.
So much for the cooler weather we had in the beginning of the week. It got up to 90 today and I had to work in the sun. I sweated bullets I'll tell you. My partner was laughing at me dragging my butt for about an hour this morning. He is younger than I and snaps back from a Friday or Saturday night quicker than I do.
SIx hours of direct sun was all I could take. My head is pounding like a rock concert. My sun fatigue is making this morning's little hangover look like a toy.
I'm not so sure about the IPA's JaBear. They are mighty tasty but they do pack a wallop. I don't suppose you're supposed to have 10 of them though
Heartland Division CB&QWe should be talking about all of TN and KY as was discssed previoisly.
Southern Railway's No.3, The Royal Palm pauses in Danville, Kentucky, for some head-end work:
SOU_3_4-11-63 by Edmund, on Flickr
Southern Ry. Business car #9 on the holding track.
Here's to all the railroad laborers who have worked to give us this splendid hobby on this Labor Day.
Cheers, Ed
Afternoon folks!
Just wrapped up turning two of the P42s Ed gave me into one P42CBU, or Cabless Booster Unit, I used the Dummy unit and one of the powered ones.
I'll post some pics in a while.
Sometimes it's not too hard to figure out why people just quit showing up here. Seriously, does everything here have to turn into a bone of contention?
Steven has taken criticism for a number of things here nobody here had any business giving him a hard time about (like age, jumping in too fast as a newbee). What's next - Issues because he "pays" for the adult beverage for some folks in the diner? Geeeeees.
RideOnRoad NWP SWP . . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . . I am a little confused about the "problem." If Ulrich is 4-7 hours ahead of us and he opens the diner at his leisure, the diner is open before any of us are rubing the sleep out of our eyes. Where's the problem?
NWP SWP . . .the problem becomes say Ulrich opens the diner every month at midnight his time, we're all 4-7 hours behind him here in North America. . . .
I'll just have to bark on this subject once more, then I need to let it go.
I agree with Richard. Time zones have nothing to do with it. It's the time on the Forum here that's prevalent. Midnight here is midnight here.
Here's the whole thing that irritates me. Ulrich was talking about where everyone wanted the Diner this month and was talking about the Great Lakes area for an idea. I brought up Johnny Cash and Nashville as we all talked about a month-and-a-half ago.... Every member on the Forum knew Ulrich's intent to open the diner.
What it all boils down to is just basic common courtesy. Respect fits as well. Respect for your elders is not a new concept. It fascinates me how many times you see these two common mannerisms disregarded these days.
Atchee Sometimes it's not too hard to figure out why people just quit showing up here. Seriously, does everything here have to turn into a bone of contention? Steven has taken criticism for a number of things here nobody here had any business giving him a hard time about (like age, jumping in too fast as a newbee). What's next - Issues because he "pays" for the adult beverage for some folks in the diner? Geeeeees.
Atchee .... We don't criticize Steven's age..... We encourage when he is building models. ...
Track Fiddler .... You have valid points. .... We talked about Nashville in September to honor Johnny Cash.... It was already agreed to do TN and KY.
Good Evening, Folks —
Track fiddlerEvery member on the Forum knew Ulrich's intent to open the diner.
Somehow I missed that memo...
Tinplate Toddler I wouldn´t be able to contribute much to that venue, but I am sure other fellow diners will be able to fill the gap.
Here's an old postcard from "Appalachia"
conneaut depot by Edmund, on Flickr
Conneaut, Ohio — and Erie, Pennsylvania — is in Appalachia.
The Appalachian Region, as defined by Congress, includes all of West Virginia and portions of 12 other states: Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. ARC serves 420 counties that encompass roughly 205,000 square miles, with a population of more than 25 million people.
Thank you, Ed
Here's what I got done.
Yes you're right. Not much to be riled about. The diner is in Tennessee and Kentucky to honor Johnny Cash... It's all good.
And you know... Steven is a pretty good kid. He worked hard to get a nice truck he's proud of. He's involved with the Railroad Club. It does seem he has a good head on his shoulders and making good choices in life
This old dogs done barking.
Afternoon Diners
Flo, the gang and I will have Are Corn From A Jar and give Ulrich, Rick and Steven the young pup what they want.
Found a hack to keep A/C dripping on the layout. Rememered seeing a grider bridge that was kit bashed from wood for $11.95. Reason it was so cheap? No rail planking. That was perfect for my use! Found a small but long plactic contanier that is as long as the A/C unit. It is sitting on top of the grider bridge catching the drippings. Trains are running great tonight and it is cool in the garage!
With us being in Tenniess how about this song?
Love that song!
Later, Ken
I hate Rust
I remember that old tune. I haven't heard it in years.
NWP SWP Here's what I got done.
Nice ! Once again you remind me of Jeff , the Diner’s namesake, who did a lot of kit bashing to make freelanced locomotives.
More of your West KY tour.
a couple more Bridge pictures
They would build a span and replace one at time, They took the bridge out of service for less than 24 hours at a time.
In 1937 the Ohio River Valley was hit with a massive flood Western KY was not spared either.
These two shots I beleive were close to Wickliffe ky on either the Mud line to Paducah or the line to Bardwell
Shot of the IC shops in Paducah 1937 flood. The shops are still here, the roundhouse has long been torn down. Currently they are empty as NRE has shutdown operations here. The Ohio river is at the very top of the picture.
Ulrich, if you want I can request that my church put in a good word with the Man upstairs for you, again if it's OK with you.
Evening diners.
Johnny Cash had lots of songs featuring trains. So, it's fitting that his works get included every now and then in the diner, and the reason we are located in KY & TN this month.
Now, seeing as the diner gets opened at midnight (or close to it), and that Memphis is located in Tennessee......
Here's a (more current) song, featuring a Midnight Train to Memphis..... I think Johnny would have liked it.
Enjoy!
moelarrycurly4 More of your West KY tour. a couple more Bridge pictures They would build a span and replace one at time, They took the bridge out of service for less than 24 hours at a time.
Bridges have always fascinated me. I have never been to Tennessee. I never knew they had long Bridges. Apparently they do.
I am a bit like Ulrich said. I do not have much to contribute here. I'm just glad we're honoring Johnny
Good evening Diners,
Brunhilda, I'll have an Earl Grey tea with cream and honey, please.
I haven't been in for awhile. I'll see if I can do better.
MLC: Those bridge pictures are fascinating. I would love to see the whole process of how it's done. Thanks for sharing.
Starting the Diner: While I dont really care who starts it, it would be courteous to agree on who will start and stick to the plan. Ulrich and Steven both do a very good job of opening the diner, but it would also be nice if other people could start it on occasion. My 2cents.
Growing up, summer lasted past Labor Day almost to the First Day of Autumn, but up here in Chicago, Labor Day is a definite demarcation of summer ending. Kinda weird really. Oh, the 70s daytime temps will linger for a bit, but the nights are already cooler. Ugh!
Hello to everyone, and I hope everyone is OK and safe.
Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)