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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:25 PM

Mint tea, please.

***Ray, that looks cool.Yes

Found an answer to my earlier question. Looks like Atlas code 83 bridges can work with Kato Unitrack. That's a start.

Well, dizzy tonight, so staying in bed between horse feed rounds.

Take care all. Cowboy Rob

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:23 PM

Good evening all.

Yep... It's snowing.

Zoe - I will take a slice of cake, and a hot cocoa please. Thanks.

Steven - Working retail, it always surprised me how much panic shopping would be done. And then we would get the crazies... The crazy people who would come in during the storm, just to buy a Hershey's Bar and tell us how bad the weather was... Yep. Crazies...

Cudaken - Did you decide on a new computer yet, or sticking with the old one?

Weather front - Yep. Snowstorm here as well. Weather guessers are saying anywhere from 9" to 19"+ for us... And, the same Winter Storm Warning that Howmus has... Although here it was from 8PM tonight (so started) through 8PM on Wednesday. Snowstorm tonight through Tuesday afternoon, then Lake-effect through at least Wednesday.

W**k - Well, my boss is now officially fed up with the remodel. That makes two of us. I ended up going live on local radio on Saturday during the NASCAR broadcast, (During a Caution break) talking about our ongoing sale (Sunday through Tomorrow) as the radio broadcaster came on Saturday to do it, and my boss is off on Saturday's.... Turns out he is also a model railroader, just getting back into it. So, after the live broadcast, we talked trains for about an hour. (Off air.) 

Trains - Finishing up the gift box for my friends son, changing everything over to Kadee's, and getting them the correct height. Soon will be good to go, and, hopefully, get someone into the hobby. 

Hope all are well, and all have a good night!

Ricky W.

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Posted by JeremyB on Monday, March 13, 2017 7:36 PM

Here in southern ontario we are in for a snowstorm. Nothing like you guys in upstate New York though. Work may be quiet tomorrow though which will make for a long day

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, March 13, 2017 5:40 PM

YGW: What did you use to design your outbuilding? I am looking for a decent program for designing the floor plan for our next house and am curious as to what you would recommend. I have some experience in designing a home. We designed the house we are living it, right down to the elevations, then hired a draftmans to convert our plans into construction blueprints, hired a general contractor, and blammo, we had a house. (If is was really that simple...) However, that was twenty years ago.

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Posted by howmus on Monday, March 13, 2017 5:24 PM

Afternoon Folks!

Janie, I'll have the fried chicken dinner tonight with a couple trips to the salad bar as well.  As is usual, I have had a busy day today.  Got up two hours early so I could get over to Waterloo to see my Granddaughter (#1) get her reading Award.  She was second place in the entire 4th grade.  They also had the Middle School band come over and put on a short concert promoting the band program to the 3rd. - 5th. graders at her school.  They were excellent, BTW.

Did more work on the lighting and some on the Keuka Creek Scenery as well on the layout.  Then I spent a few hours sitting here at the puter working on my Powerpoint Presentation for the NMRA Meet next Saturday.  Had to get more done on the layout for the slide show.......  Here is what the Keuka Creek Outlet looks like at the moment (and as done as it will be for the Clinic).  This is not finished by any means, but is getting to the look I wanted to create.

We generally don't get a major run at the grocery stores here in the Finger Lakes Area when they predict a storm.  This time of year it is just business as usual.  Prediction for the next few days for here as follows:

"... WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO 8 PM EDT WEDNESDAY... * LOCATIONS... LIVINGSTON... ONTARIO AND ALLEGANY COUNTIES. HIGHEST AMOUNTS TOWARD THE HILLTOPS. * TIMING... FROM EARLY THIS EVENING THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. HEAVIEST SNOWFALL TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT. * HAZARDS... HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS... 1 TO 3 INCHES TONIGHT... 4 TO 7 INCHES TUESDAY..3 TO 5 INCHES TUESDAY NIGHT... AND 1 TO 3 INCHES WEDNESDAY... LEADING TO STORM TOTALS OF 9 TO 18 INCHES. * VISIBILITIES... AS LOW AS A HALF MILE AT TIMES. * IMPACTS... HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW COULD PRODUCE VERY DIFFICULT DRIVING CONDITIONS WITH VERY POOR VISIBILITY AND DEEP SNOW COVER ON ROADS."

I do expect that the schools will be closed for the next couple days....  I am supposed to get my granddaughters off the bus on Wednesday Afternoon.  If they have school, I do hope I can get my driveway cleaned and over to their house.  We will play it by ear!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:33 PM

JAMES MOON
The first attempt was made usign 3/8 in. thick stock.  All went okay until I tried to put the bottom of the drawer between the sides and front.  While trying to but the back on, managed to split the back where it was routed to accept the bottom.  Started over using 1/2 stock the past Friday.  Got ready to test assemble the box before routing the dove tails and sure enough, had routed both sides identically when  they needed to be mirror images.

I know the feeling quite well. I did some trim in our bathroom last year. I needed eight pieces. After the first attempt I had to re-order the trim. I think I cut 13 pieces or more in total, and I still didn't get all the corners mitred properly.Bang HeadDunce To add insult to injury, the trim was ordered from the cabinet maker to match the new cabinets so it was very pricey! Fortunately, the trim was almost square with a slight bevel on one side so the differences are hardly noticeable. It will stay like it is!

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Posted by JAMES MOON on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:24 PM

Argh!  I am starting to feel real stupid.  I have been trying to finish my work bench for modeling for several weeks.  All it lacks is a drawer.  Decided to do a dove tail drawer.  The first attempt was made usign 3/8 in. thick stock.  All went okay until I tried to put the bottom of the drawer between the sides and front.  While trying to but the back on, managed to split the back where it was routed to accept the bottom.  Started over using 1/2 stock the past Friday.  Got ready to test assemble the box before routing the dove tails and sure enough, had routed both sides identically when  they needed to be mirror images.  So, its time to vent about my stupidity and wait for the wife to return from playing bridge so I can head to Lowe's for more 1/2 drawer stock.  Kind of sucks only having one vehicle as the daughter has been driving my old work truck since the granddaughter came home from college to work and save money.  I thought this was a short term loand but it is turning into a many month ordeal.

The empty shelves picture from Steve reminds me of a friend in Alabama who owned a couple of grocery stores.  He said any time they forecasted snow all the bread and milk would sell out and then his income would be in the tank until his customers had used up their hoard of milk and bread.

Hopefully spring is truly just around the corner.

Think I will take the dog for her afternoon walk as the weather in SE Ohio is pretty nice today.  The nasty stuff may hit here tomorrow.

YGW, the barn/shop/layout building looks pretty impressive.  Nice supply of 1:1 ballast in the foreground of the picture.

Jim

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Monday, March 13, 2017 2:09 PM

Steven Otte
. . .Not looking forward to snowblowing when I get home tonight. Stay warm, everyone!

Steven: I did a double-take on your post. The first time I read it, I saw, "Not looking forward to snowboarding when I get home tonight." Big Smile

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Monday, March 13, 2017 11:44 AM

angelob6660
Steven- How bad does snowstorms get? To show a empty gerocery store. It's not like a hurricane, tornado, or earthquake evacuations.

Here in New England, a Snowpocalypse Event like this one is always preceeded by a few days of paranoia.  But, we do not evacuate, and we will typically be stuck where we are for a day or so.  Therefore, everybody stocks up on food enough for a week.  Bread and sandwich fixings are important, because we sometimes lose power.  Therefore, to feed their paranoia machine, the media always shows the bread shelf, typically the first one to empty.

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Posted by yougottawanta on Monday, March 13, 2017 11:36 AM

Hello all

Another crazy busy day. Snow storm moving in and they are predictiong between 8 and 18" in our neck of the woods and possible loss of power.

Have a unit that has to be delivered on Thursday. Trying to adjust for a loss or two of days and still meet the dead line.

Hobby front : Carpenters showed up this morning ( my back said THANK YOU ! ) After I got them started with all of the millions of details they were applying plywood to the wall I built in preperation to raising it.

Ed - Thank you again.

Angel - That work is in one day.

Ulrich so glad to see you running trains and posting videos : ) !

Gotta run LOTS of W**K to do !

TTYL

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, March 13, 2017 10:23 AM

Extra strong coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

***Ed, enjoyed reading about the Thomas Viaduct.

***Steven, as long as there is coffee, who needs food anyway!CoffeeCool

Question: What would be a good solution for bridges, viaducts, etc, to use with HO scale Unitack, seeing as they don't offer any? Also, is there anything pre-build that would line up OK with the Unirack, once the connecting tabs are cut away? Thanks for any suggestions!

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Monday, March 13, 2017 10:22 AM

Morning diners,

Steven- How bad does snowstorms get? To show a empty gerocery store. It's not like a hurricane, tornado, or earthquake evacuations.

Modeling the G.N.O. Railway, The Diamond Route.

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Posted by dknelson on Monday, March 13, 2017 10:20 AM

Steven Otte

I would have brought in another Wisconsin delicacy today, but this is what the stores look like this morning...

And this being Wisconsin, the liquor store shelves are even more depleted.  We take no chances here in the Badger State.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:59 AM

*stomps snow off boots* Good morning, gentlemen... and I mean "good" in a relative sense... Finally made it in, about an hour late. Snow is piling up here and many of the roads don't look to have been plowed yet. I would have brought in another Wisconsin delicacy today, but this is what the stores look like this morning...

Not looking forward to snowblowing when I get home tonight. Stay warm, everyone!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, March 13, 2017 9:16 AM

Wake up, everybody ! 

I hope those affected by snow storms are doing okay . 

Cheers. .... 

 

GARRY

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Posted by TheGamp on Monday, March 13, 2017 12:15 AM

Hi cudaken,

No, but some friends from high school and I had a punk rock band and wrote a song about White Castle burgers and later shot a music video at one in Queens, NY near where we all lived. To mark its 30th anniversary I decided to scratch build the same restaurant as it appeared in '87. From there it just made sense to build a layout of the IRT Flushing Line elevated subway across the street.

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:21 PM

angelob6660
Ed- That's a lot of process within what one day or two?

Keep in mind, Angelobob, I'm acting in behalf of YGW by posting the photos for him.

Any progress is to his credit Big Smile

angelob6660
It seems that bridges were built on grades.

One of my favorite railroad engineering marvels is the Thomas Viaduct in Relay, Maryland.

http://www.asce.org/project/thomas-viaduct-railroad-bridge/

Built in 1833-35 on a 4.5° curve and a .14% decending grade. The top "deck" was built to 26' 4"! Can you imagine the forethought, in 1833 to build a bridge that STILL carries CSX trains on double track!

If I'm not mistaken, Benjamin H. Latrobe, the Assistant Engineer of the B&O, was only 25 when he designed the bridge. Given the difficult conditions and the fact that this bridge is still in daily use 182 years later I think the B&O made a pretty good investment!

Regards, Ed

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Posted by BigDaddy on Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:43 PM

YGW Beautiful area

Howmus  They have been talking about this Nor'Easter since Thursday. Panic grocery buying has been in effect since Friday.  No snow expected till 9 pm Monday.

My wife sprained her ankle yesterday and the phamacy is out of Lortab until Monday Crying  People have stocked up on anything.  The way she complains, it's a wonder you don't see a big chunk of bone sticking out from her skin. Devil

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Posted by Cederstrand on Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:24 PM

Mint tea, please.

Actually made it into the train room. The original HO layout has Bach EZ track (Worlds Greatest Hobby pack plus some extra trackage). Took out the Kato W.G.H. version and that track is not in the same dimension. Bummer, I was hoping to remove the Bach and replace with Kato without having to alter areas and move structures, etc. on the layout. Main problem is I didn't do a good job of ballasting the Bach track and those auto gates were starting to get glitchy. I could start with all new Bach stuff and just not put any ballast between the rails. At this point, I care less about looks than I do function. Just want to run trains smoothly.

Almost time for late night horse feed rounds. Take care all.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by cudaken on Sunday, March 12, 2017 7:25 PM

 Evening, or is it afternoon? Either way Hello.

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Royal Crown on the rocks please.

 Work Front Weekend. Real strange one, was slow but a good slow? Saturday only 3 customers, all 3 bought for $2056.00 and today 3 customers and 2 bought for $2200.00 in sales? Bad side, each customer seem to take for ever. Today the last one took 2 hours, the sale was simple. Getting the Futon is his Mercedes E class. Whistling Lets just say I was glad when he did what I told him might work and got him out of the store.

 Gamp Do you work for White Castle? Was wondering why you are using them in your Icon?

 Computer Front. Did the MSCONFIG and it has helped. Have not tried walmart site yet which really dragged down the computer. Photo Bucket is still slow, but better than it was.

 Later, Ken

 

 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:22 PM

Evening Diners,

Ed- That's a lot of process within what one day or two?

Ulrich- Its been a while since I saw the back of that layout. I forgot were there people inside your passenger coaches?

Der- I found this post for you. http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=42852

It seems that bridges were built on grades.

 

My layout process hasn't really coming along as I thought. It might be postponed until later this year but no longer than next year.

I still need to buy a lot of non train materials that are really slowing me down. I never really thought I would need all these things.

I think I am really an armchair modeler and likes buying locomotives, rolling stock and drawing a trains and track plans.

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Posted by TheGamp on Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:42 PM

Thank you for the kind welcomes, folks.
I think maybe I'll try the toast!

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:36 PM

RideOnRoad
What is this "Daylight Saving Time" of which you speak? 

You cut an inch of string off one end and tie it on the other end and you have saved an inch of string. At least I think that's how it works?? Huh?

Here is YGW's Photo Progress Report:

Here is Saturdays efforts. This is, believe it or not is ten hours work for four men ! We installed two rows of 2x12 blocking for joist stiffners, finished installing the subfloor, moved two hacks of plywood from the driveway down the hill closer to the building, precut about 50 studs, built 4 headers for the windows, cut 6- Jack's studs, started the first wall, loaded all of the trash into the pickup for haul off.  - OH MY ACHING BACK Smile

 


 

Busy weekend for me. I'll try to stop in later tonight.

Best wishes to all,

Ed

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:31 PM

There is a model railroading aspect to this post. You will have to read the third paragraph to find it.

For those birders among us, Dianne and I just got back from Long Point on Lake Erie. We saw literally thousands of ducks! More than I have ever seen. The waters close to the shore in what is called The Inner Bay were thick with ducks for at least 10 kms. There are several small ports along the shore of the bay where you can get close to the water. At each port the ducks were thick as far as the eye could see in either direction. We identified nine different duck species but no doubt there were more. We also saw Mute Swans, Common Mergansers, and a Bald Eagle. It was bitterly cold in the wind but most of the birds had brains enough to be out of the wind as much as possible so we did most of our birding in those areas. Much of the time we could park close enough to the water to be able to watch from the comfort of the van.

Now the model railroading connection. We stayed at a wonderful B&B. Last night a second couple arrived and this morning we enjoyed breakfast together. The conversation eventually came around to spare time activities and of course model railroading was mentioned. It turned out that the husband, Terry, works at a hobby shop in Kingsville called Action Hobbies. I deal with Action Hobbies all the time! I had spoken to Terry on several occasions in the past! Small world! There is a theory called 'Seven Degrees of Separation'. For those not familiar with the theory, it is suggested that all of us are only seven people removed from everyone else in the world. You know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody..... and by the time you get to the seventh person in the chain it could link you to anyone on the planet. I view it with a bit of scepticism but it is an interesting theory none the less.

Take care everyone!

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:01 PM

Henry:

http://www.ozarkmountainrailcar.com/index_rw.asp

Made link clickable. All you needed to do was hit the return key before pasting the link, and then after pasting it. It has to stand free of other text.

Dave

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Posted by howmus on Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:48 PM

Afternoon folks!

Chloe, just a cup of hot chocolate right now.  I've been doing the laundry down cellar which is a good excuse to stay down there and get some lighting moving and reinstallation done on the layout.  Which, of course is not happening easily...  Have to9 hold up an 8' long piece of masonite white baord material in place with one hand while screwing the ting in place with the other at the same time....  My back is already screaming at me to stop and I will have some other muscles showing their presence by morning.

 Ulirich, good to see you Sir!  And good that you have been "working on the Railroad".  I'll catch the video later tonight....  Need to get to the grocery store to "Stock Up".

We are under a Winter Storm Watch here in the Finger Lakes for the next few days....  Buffalo Weather Service says:

"... WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING... * LOCATIONS... MONROE... WAYNE... NORTHERN CAYUGA... LIVINGSTON AND ONTARIO COUNTIES. * TIMING... FROM EARLY MONDAY EVENING THROUGH EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. * HAZARDS... HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS... 9 TO 17 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE. * WINDS... NORTH 15 TO 25 MPH. * VISIBILITIES... AS LOW AS A QUARTER MILE AT TIMES."

Fun, fun, fun!  Tomorrow should be fine during the day, but then....  Tomorrow I have to get up a couple hours early to be at my son's house to go over to Granddaughter #1's School.  She is is recieving a Major Academic Award I hear!  Then Wednesday I am supposed to be over there to meet them getting off the bus.  If they even have school and if I can get my driveway plowed out in time.  Who knows?

I am finishing up a Clinic I will be presenting at out combined Lakeshores Division and Central NY Division NMRA Meet next Saturday.  We will be announcing a Major development that is happening and will have some, ah, shall we say High Mukky Mucks in attendance.  Can't share on here what is happening yet....

Sun is shining and trying to clear off the solar panels before they get a foot or two of sn*w on them over the next few days...

Gotta get moving!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:37 PM

Strong coffee in an Undecorated mug, please.

***Ulrich, I like that train vid. Always thought the Crocodile was especially neat looking.

Back to wearing the winter jacket out on the ol' farm here. Looking forward to summer, whenever it finally arrives.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:35 PM

What is this "Daylight Saving Time" of which you speak? Wink

Ulrich: My son has been near your neck of the woods for the past week. As part of the MBA program he is enrolled in, they have been visiting various businesses  in Germany. This week they visited Sennheiser and Continental. (I am running Conti's on my road bike.) In addition to businesses they have done a little sightseeing, visiting the Wieliczka Salt Mine, Auschwitz and Birkenau.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:31 AM

Good Afternoon!

Spring has finally sprung in my neck of the woods! It´s a bright and sunny day, not too warm yet, just comfortable, nice for going on a walk!

I rescued my Rhaetian Railway Crocodile from its display and gave it a workout on my layout. I hadn´t run it since early December last year, so in order to celebrate the occasion I coupled it up to my "Albula Experience" special, which consists of an open panorama car, a vintage passenger car and a couple of freight cars.

Here is a short video of the event:

Talking of cutting foam - I tried quite a few different ways, from a steak knife to a hot knife and finally, my trusted Japanese saw I bought for this purpose about a year ago. The Japanese saw worked the best, but only on that pink or blue Styrofoam, Gatorfoam or whatever the brand name is in your neck of the woods. I don´t use that beaded stuff at all - Petra would kill me if I did. You´ll find those beads in places you would not think of!

We are not yet on DST in Europe - the change will come in two weeks. I am looking forward to have the sun set an hour later! Talking of which - it´s slowly getting dark here right now!

Have a great one!

 

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:12 AM

Good morning!  I almost missed morning.  I took an antihistamine too early yesterday, then had a couple of beers at the bar.  I've got a bit of a cold still, and with the clock change it was almost noon by the time I got up.  It's very cold right now, and Tuesday we could get a foot of snow.  This is not what I'd expected for March this year after all the bike riding I was able to do since winter started.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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