Mornin'.....
Zoe, just more hot dark roast coffee, please!
(grumble, grumble, grumble.....) Nasty rotten, yucky, damp, dark, chilly, icky, rainy day out there again... this is happening because I have a long list of outside things that should have gotten done around here outside before Memorial Day and I wasn't able to get to them!
Guess I will get doing some of the long list of indoor things needing to get done instead... Sure wish I didn't have to turn on the lights to see my way around the house though.
Well, well, well... My son just called as I was typing this to thank me for the Christmas gift I gave him a couple years back. It seemks that around 2:30Am there was a crash and a lot of sparks them complete darkness in the area where he lives. He lives just outside the Village of Waterloo, NY and a tree that is on his neighbors property right next to my son's pproperty decided to come down. This is a tree I have mentioned again and again as being a "Widow Maker" and one that needed to get taken down. It had a split trunk and one half of it grew sideways for about 80' and came out right above the utility wires at the road. With all the rain we have had, she finally came loose and came down taking everything in its path with it. My DIL called 911 and a while later the county arrived with all kinds of trucks and equipment. They cut up and removed the entire tree and a large Locust tree in the path of the one that came down. He called to let me know the 4000w generator I gave him for Christmas back then worked beautifully and he was able to keep the sump and a few other things going until they finally got the power back on this morning.
I feel less grumpy now!
Later!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Morning All,
Currently it is 55 with an expected high of 85 with mostly sunny, breezy conditions this afternoon. Had some rain yesterday which cooled things down a bit, and we are now back to normal spring, early summer temps.
Closing shift today, but have an 11:00 AM meeting, which will replace the 9:00 PM meeting, so I may not get home that late.
Package from Walthers arrived yesterday with several turnouts, and WS Track Bed. Hope to get some railroading in tomorrow.
Prayers to all in need.
Paul
Living in Fernley Nevada, about 30 miles east of Reno, also lived in Oregon and California, but born In Brooklyn NY and raised on Long Island NY
galaxyIn ancient Greece, voting for some of their organizations was done via beans. White beans, for instance, were dropped into a container who favored the candidate and brown or black beans if one did not. Apparently the jar was solid and opaque, so when one went to vote one kept one's hands closed so no one knew what bean you droped. Only the 'officials' knew the actual total vote results . However....on a some occasions a voter would knock over the jar and revealed all the beans. This is where the phrase came from to refer to someone who reveals the truth or hidden secrets
Well, this is how we vote in the monastery. White Marble = Approve; Black Marble = Opposed. We have a special wooden voting machine for this purpose. The bottom drawer holds the supply of marbles, the upper drawer holds the votes that were cast through a funnel shaped cup on top of the box.
Before the vote the Abbot removes the top drawer and turns it over to show that it is empty, he then places it in the box, and opens the bottom drawer with the supply of marbles. Only voting capitulars are in the room. While people file up to vote the Abbot and the Secretary of the chapter count the house and agree on the number of people present. After the vote (the Abbot does not vote) the drawer is opened and the Abbot and the Secretary count the marbles. Obviously there may not be more marbles than people voting (Sorry Chicago!) and the results are announced.
When we vote on people, paper ballots are used and the winner must take 2/3s of the vote, or the vote is held again. On the third ballot, the one with the most votes is elected even if it is not a simple majority.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
"... another rainy day, just a rainy, rainy day....."
(grumble, grumble, grumble.... Grrrr..... harumph, grumble...)
Good Morning...
Another dull drab kinda dribbly day here...high of 70F expected...
We are going out later on to pick up supplies for our very expensive hobby ... and check out a couple of music stores as well...mmmmm...come to think of it..seems about fair...
Todd: HEY!! I told you I did lick the spoon!!
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
http://modeltrainswithmusic.blogspot.ca/
Heartland Division CB&QThe "sleeper" here is seated in the corner booth.
In the Diner, the mighty Diner, the LION sleeps tonight.....
And "tokens" were something used to get into the subway system.
Good morning from rainy New England today. We've been getting more than our share of rain this season. If it keeps up, I may even have a lawn this summer. Keeps the pollen down, too, and it's a lot easier to sleep when it's this cool outside.
Other than that couple of feet of girder rail down by the carfloat terminal, I haven't laid track for a couple of years. That's about to change. The last section of pink foam on Phase 2 of my layout is to become a tannery, so I'll be finalizing the track plan and buying the turnouts. With retirement approaching and with it the inevitable downsizing, I'm starting to regard this as temporary. I can't really build the scene the way I want it, given the space restrictions, so I will simplify the track plan and just enjoy doing the scenery and structures for now.
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Good morning. It's 78° with 91% humidity. The high will be 92°.Didn't get much sleep last night. Nerve pain had my left hand and forearm feeling like it was badly burned much of the time. Pain killers had little effect on it. Today I'll be continuing with the cleanup of my work area. I'm also going to try to get some sleep if I can.
Dr. Frankendiesel aka Scott Running BearSpace Mouse for president!15 year veteran fire fighterCollector of Apple //e'sRunning Bear EnterprisesHistory Channel Club life member.beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam
Good Morning!!!
Coffee, a couple eggs scrambled loose, hashbrowns with creamed chipped beef over it, and a box of Kleenex please. Thanks.
WOW! Can you believe it’s the 11th of June already?
Patchy fog before 9am. Otherwise, mostly sunny, with a high near 89.
Welp, for a bit last night I thought “gee, I think I’s be sick.” Felt a bit feverish and just beat to death. I said I haven’t experienced this in yeeeears. I immediately looked to the north in the general direction of London, On-TAR-io and said “Thanks Barry!!! You said you didn’t lick your spoon I used yesterday! ” Anywho, I surrendered and took the Actifed…twice. I was up every hour on the hour blowing my nose, but I could and THAT”S what counts. Gotta get it out before it…well enough of that. (cough cough)
Hey Paul from Texas!! Glad to see you back!!
I’m gonna guess he clicked the wrong whatcha-callit on this new to him forumware. Sounded like he intended it to be posted in the diner. At least to me anyway….maybe not.
Other-n-at, not much going on worth repeating so I guess I’ll go hang my head over a bowl of warm salt water for a bit then off for the adventures of the day!!
Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!
Todd
Central Illinoyz
In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.
I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk.
Heartland Division CB&QJeff . The hopper is well weathered.
Morning coffee in the diner...
GOOD TUESDAY MORNING!!!
Today is Tuesday, June 11th, 2013!!!
I will light the prayer candles for those in need at 9 AM...
MAKE IT A GREAT DAY!!!
Per request of Garry:
SPILL THE BEANS:
{Simple belief}:
In ancient Greece, voting for some of their organizations was done via beans. White beans, for instance, were dropped into a container who favored the candidate and brown or black beans if one did not. Apparently the jar was solid and opaque, so when one went to vote one kept one's hands closed so no one knew what bean you droped. Only the 'officials' knew the actual total vote results . However....on a some occasions a voter would knock over the jar and revealed all the beans. This is where the phrase came from to refer to someone who reveals the truth or hidden secrets
Meaning:
To divulge a secret, especially to do so inadvertently or maliciously
Origin {more accurately}:
The derivation of this expression is sometimes said to be the voting system used in ancient Greece. The story goes that white beans indicated positive votes and black beans negative. Votes had to be unanimous, so if the collector 'spilled the beans' before the vote was complete and a black bean was seen, the vote was halted. That's plausible, but doesn't account for the fact that the phrase is first found in the early 20th century. It's probably best if we concentrate our search there and ignore the ancient Greece references.
'Spill' has been used as a verb with the meaning of 'divulge' or 'let out' since at least the 16th century. Edward Hellowes' Guevara's Familiar epistles, 1574, contains an example of that usage:
"Although it be a shame to spill it, I will not leaue to say that which... his friends haue said vnto me." {note: in 1574 spelling and words were different}
"Although it be a shame to spill it, I will not leaue to say that which... his friends haue said vnto me."
{note: in 1574 spelling and words were different}
That 'let out' meaning was probably influenced by an earlier meaning of 'spill', i.e. 'kill' and the subsequent usage of 'spill blood', which was in common use by the 14th century.
The earliest uses of 'spill the beans' come from the USA. The meaning of the phrase was then something like 'spoil the beans' or 'upset the applecart', which it can be guessed harkens back to the supposed Greek knocking over of a bean container. The first example I can find is from The Stevens Point Journal, June 1908:
"Tawney, when he came to congress, wasn't welcomed within the big tent. He had to wait around on the outside. Then the blacksmith [Jim Tawney] got busy. He just walked off the reservation, taking enough insurgent Republicans with him to spill the beans for the big five."
Soon after that the phrase was used with the meaning of 'upset a previously stable situation by talking out of turn', which is close to how we use it today. That is cited in The Van Wert Daily Bulletin, October 1911:
"Finally Secretary Fisher, of the President's cabinet, who had just returned from a trip to Alaska, was called by Governor Stubbs to the front, and proceeded, as one writer says, to 'spill the beans'."
We have 'spill', meaning 'to divulge', but why beans? Well, it could have been almost anything. In fact, there are several 'spill the' variations - 'spill the soup', 'spill your guts', or more simply, 'spill it', or just 'spill'.
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Heartland Division CB&Q Ray .... Spoiling the cats with toys, eh. Now the cat is out of the bag. SP&S Gary .... I meant to say I liked your video, too. You might have liked the old CB&Q's Blackhawk in the 1950's and 1960's. That was the overnight train between Chicago and St Paul. It always had a mix of CB&Q, GN, and NP cars. If I looked closely, it probably had SP&S cars too. Cars from the GN Western Star and the NP Mainstreeter went to and from Chicago on the CB&Q Blackhawk. Photos of the train are rare because it was a night train. Jeff . The hopper is well weathered.
Ray .... Spoiling the cats with toys, eh. Now the cat is out of the bag.
SP&S Gary .... I meant to say I liked your video, too. You might have liked the old CB&Q's Blackhawk in the 1950's and 1960's. That was the overnight train between Chicago and St Paul. It always had a mix of CB&Q, GN, and NP cars. If I looked closely, it probably had SP&S cars too. Cars from the GN Western Star and the NP Mainstreeter went to and from Chicago on the CB&Q Blackhawk. Photos of the train are rare because it was a night train.
Jeff . The hopper is well weathered.
I also received my SP&S locomotive diagram book, I plan on making an E1 series 4-8-4 and an O-3 2-8-2 for SP&S, I wish I had decals or a way to print my own.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SGTDUPREY?feature=guide
Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Evening Dinners
Flo, Beer pleases and would you help me drink it pleases?
Darn I am tired! Only reason I am up is because I drank so much Diet Dew today if I don't I don't think I will sleep all night.
Have not felt right all day and have been exhausted. My head feels, to tight? Sort of had a sore throat last night and guess I did not sleep that well.
Work Front While not a bad day, I swear this shop is cursed! Seems like just about anything that could go wrong did. Plus to top off the day, I found out that there manager Scott is coming back! Only person I have ever refused to work with!
Vince's I will let you know when I feel more like my self, but keep reminding me.
Ken
I hate Rust
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Evenin' folks!
Janie, just my usual decaf please...
I spent much of the day just vegging out. Actually fell asleep sitting at the computer doing some research on fencing... Did drive down to the credit union and get a few photos of some dead presidents to carry around in my wallet as I only had 3 pictures of George left. I then headed over to the Value Store to get a couple hooks I can put in at camp to hang the mics from.
I was just settling down to see what was going on here and a couple other places tonight after supper when the phone rang. It was the Tree Surgeon who gave me an acceptable price on taking out the old overgrown shrubs and said he will be here late tomorrow afternoon if all goes well. I called the folks next door and let the lady know. She seemed genuinely excited to finally see the project get started. Don't think she likes the old overgrown Hemlock hedge any more than I do. Next step will to agree on what kind of fence we want to in its place. Been sitting here pricing different options for the last couple hours.
I bought the cats a couple of toy mice when I was there with Blackie this morning. Gave Blackie his late this morning. he just let it sit next to him on his chair... He did knock it around a bit as it is now half way across the room from where I gave it to him. Manét was sleeping most of the day, so he just got his a few minutes ago. He has gone completely nuts with it. He picks it up, throws it in the air, and then chases it around batting it with his paws. Takes it in his mouth, rolls over, then throws it again. Fun watching him!
No Model Railroading today.... Maybe tomorrow while I wait for the guy to remove the hedge...
Have a great night! Prayers for all in need.
Got some more of the layout clutter cleaned up and the work area looks a little better. No other layout work today.I only got a few hours of restless sleep last night and I'm tired. Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.
Hi, Diners! 70f and MUGGY!!
I'm back! Major ' puter viris last 2 weeks, MOH thinks she's got it whipped!
PFC Son and DIL will be here Wednesday afternoon thru Sunday. The Daughter, SIL and GKs will be up Thursday evening. Cannot WAIT!!! Kinda like Christmas eve when you were a kid!!
I'd better wade through all the posts I've missed!
BBL!
Terry in NW Wisconsin
Queenbogey715 is my Youtube channel
Curt Webb Afternoon All, Got a haircut today, went to the Chiropractor and vacuumed the downstairs. I will vacuum upstairs tomorrow...don't want to over due it you know. The guy came out today for measuring for the wood floor and we discussed the layout room...I will just say MOH is probably not going to be happy. Gary- Nice videos on YouTube. Here is the print I picked up on vacation Here is my daughter (teaches at the school) and Quintin at his Kindergarten graduation (pre cast) Everybody have a good night and prayers for those in need.
Afternoon All,
Got a haircut today, went to the Chiropractor and vacuumed the downstairs. I will vacuum upstairs tomorrow...don't want to over due it you know. The guy came out today for measuring for the wood floor and we discussed the layout room...I will just say MOH is probably not going to be happy.
Gary- Nice videos on YouTube.
Here is the print I picked up on vacation
Here is my daughter (teaches at the school) and Quintin at his Kindergarten graduation (pre cast)
Everybody have a good night and prayers for those in need.
Also that's an amazing picture! and congrats to your Grandson!
I was mentioning I am working on the headlights of my Burlington E7's. They are Proto 2000 models which came with mars lights. When I changed to DCC , I had trouble with the headlights not working correctly. After some false startes, I decided to remove the mars light because the Burlington did not use them. (Edit: I have been informed the Q's upper headlight housing did have a Mars light. The upper clear light would make a sideways figure eight pattern if the engineer turned it on, but that was not used most of the time. )
Here is an old photo of the Twin Cities Zephyr with E7's. The lower headlight was the running light, and had two beams. The upper headlight had a red beam and a clear beam. The red beam would only be lighted if there was an emergency brake application. The clear upper light was sometimes used as a running light while the lower light was also on.
Here is my model E7 pair with modified lighting. It has a clear LED in the lower headlight. The upper headlights has a red LED and a clear LED. A 4-function NCE decoder is installed. The lower light works with the headlight function key. The upper red light and the upper clear light come on using a function key for each one. The CV's are programmed so the upper lights will flash. The lower LED is lighted. The upper headlight is not lighted, but you can see the red LED. in the photo. My model railroad friend, Gus , worked on my E7's.
thebarnet galaxy Sir Madog Heartland Division CB&QIt must be challenging for people trying to learn English especially American-English to learn all of the commonly used goofy idioms. ...... Challenging is today´s understatement, Garry. You don´t learn them unless you spend a considerable amount of time with the local folks. Unfortunately, quite a number of those phrases have a short half-life - the ones I learned during my high school days are probably completely outdated My back is hurting less, thanks to a shot my doc administered into my back. Still don´t know what hurts the most - the pain in the back or the shot against it. ULRICH, buddy, pal, friend-o-mine...try out some of those idiomatic idiosyncratic local-yocal phrases you learned here in the USA *way back when*...I'll bet they are STILL around and many of us here still use them today!!! I'll bet they are NOT so outdated!! When I get my back injections for pain...the cure is worse than the affliction! SO I sympathize with you, pal... I keep having to remember not to use British-English slang terms and idioms on here and rember that Sleepers=Ties Points=switches and the Guard= the Conductor now if you don't Mid i feel like some tea and were did i put my red jacket?
galaxy Sir Madog Heartland Division CB&QIt must be challenging for people trying to learn English especially American-English to learn all of the commonly used goofy idioms. ...... Challenging is today´s understatement, Garry. You don´t learn them unless you spend a considerable amount of time with the local folks. Unfortunately, quite a number of those phrases have a short half-life - the ones I learned during my high school days are probably completely outdated My back is hurting less, thanks to a shot my doc administered into my back. Still don´t know what hurts the most - the pain in the back or the shot against it. ULRICH, buddy, pal, friend-o-mine...try out some of those idiomatic idiosyncratic local-yocal phrases you learned here in the USA *way back when*...I'll bet they are STILL around and many of us here still use them today!!! I'll bet they are NOT so outdated!! When I get my back injections for pain...the cure is worse than the affliction! SO I sympathize with you, pal...
Sir Madog Heartland Division CB&QIt must be challenging for people trying to learn English especially American-English to learn all of the commonly used goofy idioms. ...... Challenging is today´s understatement, Garry. You don´t learn them unless you spend a considerable amount of time with the local folks. Unfortunately, quite a number of those phrases have a short half-life - the ones I learned during my high school days are probably completely outdated My back is hurting less, thanks to a shot my doc administered into my back. Still don´t know what hurts the most - the pain in the back or the shot against it.
Heartland Division CB&QIt must be challenging for people trying to learn English especially American-English to learn all of the commonly used goofy idioms. ......
Challenging is today´s understatement, Garry. You don´t learn them unless you spend a considerable amount of time with the local folks. Unfortunately, quite a number of those phrases have a short half-life - the ones I learned during my high school days are probably completely outdated
My back is hurting less, thanks to a shot my doc administered into my back. Still don´t know what hurts the most - the pain in the back or the shot against it.
The "sleeper" here is seated in the corner booth.
Curt .... Obviously, you have have good reasons to be very proud. Thanks for sharing the family picture in school.,
Apologies in advance for any use of UK RailRoad Terms
"there is the wrong way the Right way and then there is Great western railway Way"
*comes in wheezing and coughing...coff coff coff coff coff..gasp WHEEEZE...coff coff coff coff gasp WHEEEZE....*
Hello...it is now very muggy but cool out here....69F feeling like...would you believe 80F?....great galloping mugginess!!
well, the day of doin' nuthin' got kickstarted by doin' a bunch of runnin' 'roun' doin' stuff by wife who thought I needed some working out...oh joy...oh bliss...at least it only took a couple of hours...now I an sittin' 'roun' doin' nuthin'....
Here is my daughter (teaches at the school) and Quintin at his Kindergarten graduation (pre cast) Everybody have a good night and prayers for those in need.
Curt Webb
The Late Great Pennsylvania Railroad
http://s1082.photobucket.com/albums/j372/curtwbb/
On Sunday we were able to go rail fanning and had a pretty nice day. A little overcast, but no rain. Caught 11 trains in 2 hours. The most interesting one was an empty petroleum crude oil train headed west towards Conway Yard. The power was a NS SD60M leading, followed by a BNSF C44-9W and a KCS ES44AC. This is the first KCS in what I think they call the "Belle" scheme that I've seen. It's always interesting to catch run thru power,
Today was very busy, at least for us. We were out the door around 8 o'clock this morning with breakfast being the first order of business. Then grocery shopping at a couple of different stores. After putting the groceries away, we hit the road again. First a stop at the pharmacy, then up the interstate to Barnes & Noble, Costco's and Quaker Steak & Lube for lunch. Then back down the interstate to a hardware store in another part of the County that I like. Not only did I find everything I wanted, but a bunch of other stuff as well. One of the items I picked up was one of those garden hoses they advertise on TV that shrivel all up until you turn the water on. Cost $20.00 but I'll have to wait until I try it out before I know if it was worth it. I also picked up some new lava rocks for the outdoor grill. Used it on Saturday and it smoked like an old steamer going up a grade.
Anyway, we finally got home about 3:30 this afternoon. So I read the daily papers and after I'm done with this, I think I will declare it nap time. The grass needs cut, but it's too wet as it has been raining on and off since last night. We did run into a real heavy thunderstorm while going to the hardware store that was flooding out most of the streets. But that seems to have passed us by now.
Hope everybody has a good one...
Tom
Pittsburgh, PA
Hey guys dropping by for a bit, final is on thursday. Finally got around to running SP&S #750.
watch?feature=endscreen&v=HJOXJjbQ9U&NR=1
Afternoon guys
It's been raining for 2 days straight. ugh... I've been forbidden to work on the styrofoam for the coal loads in the house my my parents... I want to get these done by tomorrow night, but I don't think it'll happen. I have to shape some of them, and paint them all... Hopefully I can knock them out by friday so I can have a coal train for the tallahassee show.
I've been working on weathering the 4 flats for a friend. I'll be done with them tomorrow. 2 are done, but the heavier weathered ones are drying. I've also printed out some numbers for my SD40-2. I found the font and my version or word had it. I just need to glue it to the inside of the numberboard without messing them up. I think a glue stick will work.
Ken, Just make it 10 shipped so it's a nice even number. I can fit the fuel tanks in the box with it and probably get it out first class.
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Good Evening!
I´ll be taking it lightly for the coming few days. I need to go to Wolfsburg on Thursday to pick up my new little Volkswagen at the factory. Due to the flood, a railroad bridge crossing the Elbe river is closed for traffic, which means I cannot take the early (!!!) morning train, but have to go a day before - sigh! I will stay a night at my son´s and will try to make my way from Hannover to Wolfsburg one way or the other the next day. Have to be there by 7.30am
No MRRing in sight
Blessing to all and a big back to Paul!
Hello everybody
Galaxy .... I'm impressed. You responded with explanations of "let the cat out of the bag" in the middle of the night. I agree with Todd the explanation regarding pigs is more likely. ..... It must be challenging for people trying to learn English especially American-English to learn all of the commonly used goofy idioms. ...... Here's another you might have fun with. "Spill the beans". It's an idiom with similar meaning as "let the cat out of the bag", but neither is colse to each other if translated literally.
So far, I'm busy with non-model-railroad-stuff today.Perhaps, this evening i can get to the layout.
Cheers.
Currently it is 64 with an expected high of 89 under sunny skies with a slight chance of a T-shower in the afternoon, mostly in the mountains and Lake Tahoe. We may be under a cooling trend.
Closing shift today. It is also garbage pick up day, so I need to get that out to the curb. Still need to make my lunch and check anti-freeze level in the old truck, cause I think I will take that today. So best be getting on with it.
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, I'll have a short stack of blueberry pancakes with a side order of bacon please. yes, leave the NYS Maple Syrup bottle right here on the table for me and bring me some dark roast Marrakesh Express dark roast coffee in my R&GV RR mug, please.
Dull and sprinkly outside here... Thanks Barry! The little wheel isn't turning very fast down cellar.... yesterday was a good day. 25+ kWh of power. Two days before that next to nothing.... Yesterday I got the lawn mowed and did some trimming of the few trees left on the property to make it easier to mow under them.
Didn't get any sleep last night as the cats kept me awake... Blackie had to visit the vet this morning for his every three months blood sugar test so they were both fasting all night.... So every 15 minutes, about the time I would fall asleep, one or the other of them was pawing me or licking my nose to let me know they didn't have any food and were hungry! His sugar was 182 which is down from 185... So he is staying basically the same and since he appears to be doing well otherwise (has gained back all his mobility) she is keeping him on the same dose of meds for now.
Need to clean up some of the piles laying around the dining room/office area today. The neighborhood is having a mass Garage/Yard/Porch/Deck sale in a couple of weeks and I figured it might be a way to get rid of the boxes of old junk I have from my parents house that nobody in the family wants so I got stuck with because they were too wonderful and meant so much too my Mother garbage I have been storing for over a decade. Whatever is left after that goes in the dumpster.....