Gary, If I go the N-scale route, I'd probably go with the code 80 plan. just cause there is more to do. I thought an N-scale GP9 and a 50' car would be shorter than that. An HO P2K GP9 and a 50' boxcar are about 39.5 mm...
Isn't the Atlas/Kato GP9 longer than a real GP9?
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Packer Afternoon guys It's may day off today. I spent today working on the loads for my Thrall gons. I have about half of the braces and styrofoam blocks in a car. I found my sister's hot glue gun, but it has no sticks... I've been using liquid nails and track nails to hold the bracing together. The wooden bracing holds the load up. I've had cars were the styrofoam load was unsupported and it sagged and they usually got stuck on the inside ribs. I've played with some track-planning software and came up with these ideas for an N-scale layout in 21x39: It's all sectional track (can't figure out the flextrack controls in the program), the top one is code 80, the bottom code 55. If I would go through with this, the power would likely be a GP7/9 and cars would be limited to 50' max. The only issue with code 80 plan is the tail track, which may be too short and stems from the fact that I don't know how long an N-scale 50' car coupled to a GP7/9 would be. I wonder what Ulrich thinks of the track plans. Given his experience with figuring stuff out in small places, I wonder if he can think of anything better or some improvements... SP&S to BN to SP&S Gary, any idea how long an N-scale 50' boxcar and a GP9 are coupled together? What about a 40'?
Afternoon guys
It's may day off today. I spent today working on the loads for my Thrall gons. I have about half of the braces and styrofoam blocks in a car. I found my sister's hot glue gun, but it has no sticks... I've been using liquid nails and track nails to hold the bracing together. The wooden bracing holds the load up. I've had cars were the styrofoam load was unsupported and it sagged and they usually got stuck on the inside ribs.
I've played with some track-planning software and came up with these ideas for an N-scale layout in 21x39:
It's all sectional track (can't figure out the flextrack controls in the program), the top one is code 80, the bottom code 55. If I would go through with this, the power would likely be a GP7/9 and cars would be limited to 50' max. The only issue with code 80 plan is the tail track, which may be too short and stems from the fact that I don't know how long an N-scale 50' car coupled to a GP7/9 would be.
I wonder what Ulrich thinks of the track plans. Given his experience with figuring stuff out in small places, I wonder if he can think of anything better or some improvements...
SP&S to BN to SP&S Gary, any idea how long an N-scale 50' boxcar and a GP9 are coupled together? What about a 40'?
Modelling HO Scale with a focus on the West and Midwest USA
I will go measure for you in a couple moments and return with an answer!
Those look like great plans Packer!
N scale GP7/9's are made by atlas but have Kato drives, they may come with rapidos but will have a kato style coupler installation which would make an easy installation with MTL 1015's. they have T.T and Non T.T. models( I need a couple T.T. models for SP&S units).
Edit: Atlas N scale GP9 and 40' MTL box 19.5 cm
GP9 and 50' refrigerated reefer 22 cm
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SGTDUPREY?feature=guide
Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
Well, erm
Listening to Merrie Monarch Wahine Hula {women's hula} chantged by Mark Keali'i O'omalu.
Seems SOme crogratulatiosn are in order!
MR B: congrats on a summacumlaude daughter! She must get it from her father!
GARRY: COngrats on GUS going home that must mea he is getting better! See Prayers can work!
Please Tell GUS congrats on healing for us!!!
Well time to go check the mail and see if the last bill of the month is in yet! I still use snail mail..it keeps someone in a JOB!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
galaxy Heartland Division CB&Q blownout cylinder MisterBeasley wrote: The keynote address, by Maine's Senator Angus King, was brief and very entertaining. He described "politics" as a Greek word, with "poly" meaning "many," and "tics" meaning "small, blood-sucking insects." Gotta remember that one!! I once had a dog with a tic on it. The tic would not be still. It was a nervous tic. Not to be confused with a TIC-TAC, a small, powerful Mint.
Heartland Division CB&Q blownout cylinder MisterBeasley wrote: The keynote address, by Maine's Senator Angus King, was brief and very entertaining. He described "politics" as a Greek word, with "poly" meaning "many," and "tics" meaning "small, blood-sucking insects." Gotta remember that one!! I once had a dog with a tic on it. The tic would not be still. It was a nervous tic.
blownout cylinder MisterBeasley wrote: The keynote address, by Maine's Senator Angus King, was brief and very entertaining. He described "politics" as a Greek word, with "poly" meaning "many," and "tics" meaning "small, blood-sucking insects." Gotta remember that one!!
MisterBeasley wrote: The keynote address, by Maine's Senator Angus King, was brief and very entertaining. He described "politics" as a Greek word, with "poly" meaning "many," and "tics" meaning "small, blood-sucking insects."
Gotta remember that one!!
I once had a dog with a tic on it. The tic would not be still. It was a nervous tic.
Not to be confused with a TIC-TAC, a small, powerful Mint.
That was a sweet comment!
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
MisterBeasley Forgive me some fatherly pride. When our daughter Annie crossed the stage to get her Bachelor of Science degree, they added summa cum laude after her name.
Forgive me some fatherly pride. When our daughter Annie crossed the stage to get her Bachelor of Science degree, they added summa cum laude after her name.
Mr. B ... I'm very happy for you, and I'm glad you shared that with us. ..... I like seeing good news. The Diner should be a happy place!
CN Charlie ...... Glad you like the old auto carrier pictures. I have more. I was with CN's US railroads (Grand Trunk Western).
Jake .... Keep up the good work for the next 10 days of school.
JimCG .... Yes, I have been busy with non-model railroad stuff. Not much new progress on the layout lately. (Rats!) .... I like the buildings you are working on and the pictures you posted of them. .... As or doctor appointments, I will be in Nashville, TN tomorrow and Wednesday. I have appointments with the heart surgeon Wednesday morning. This will be routine followup stuff, and I am doing fine.
Good news ...... My friend, Gus, is expected to be discharged from the hospital so he can complete his recovery at home. His wife, a retired nurse, will assist with changing dressings on his skins wounds which are still very extensive.
Ulrich ... Thanks for taking time to post here. When is the election date?
Where are Lee, JR, Bama, etc, etc.? .... The food is too good to pass up!
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It's all sectional track (can't figure out the flextrack controls in the program), the top one is code 80, the bottom code 55. If I would go through with this, the power would likely be a GP7/9 and cars would be limited to 50' max. The only issue with code 80 plan is the tail track, which may be too short and stems from the fact that I don't know how long an N-scale 50' car coupled to a GP7/9 would be. I wonder what Ulrich thinks of the track plans. Given his experience with figuring stuff out in small places, I wonder if he can think of anything better or some improvements... SP&S to BN to SP&S Gary, any idea how long an N-scale 50' boxcar and a GP9 are coupled together? What about a 40'?
Galaxy, I'll cover this time. Feeling rather generous now.
Good afternoon.
Feels really weird to be finished with school overall. Let alone the fact that graduation is roughly 10 school days away. Will be keeping myself busy by looking at notes for the two finals that I need to take. Trig and Physics. Will also start applying decals to my 109.
The Lehigh Valley Railroad, the Route of the Black Diamond Express, John Wilkes and Maple Leaf.
-Jake, modeling the Barclay, Towanda & Susquehanna.
Hi Guys,
Wow its a warm one out today, 84 but feeling like 95. Funny I had the furnace on last week and today am seriously debating turning the central air on,lol. When the late afternoon sun hits the front of the house the temp goes up big time So I will see how warm it is later on.
I have spent the last few days outside in the garden and have got a lot done. I have been off since Thursday. In addition to getting the yard work complete I managed to avoid getting a sunburn and finished up weathering a gondola, I have about ten hours weathering into the thing.I have come in for the day though and plan on just watching the Jays game and doing some laundry.
Listening To Mark Keali'i Ho'omalu chanting for the 2006 Wahine Kahiko {older women} group Found him doing it on the tube.Love his voice, chants and tunes.
Well erm
Calculating Another trip to Hawaii...{wouldn't you know} for the fall...IF and that's a big IF IF MOH works both part time jobs and I save like mad, we could go for my Birthing Day Celebration.
BUT, I know how/where to get the best deals. and the trip planning was all in fun, really...maybe next year, THOUGH it looks like we could do it for about what we did in 2005, {about $500 more}. AND it was a bargain in 2005 all the way around. WHO says Hawaii is expensive?
IF we go,we would take Train nut friend and his wife...IF they can afford it...He thinks he'd like to retire to FL or Hawaii {she said "you'd have to take me there first" about Hawaii}
MOH would love to go for the HULA competitions next March/April- would be nice, I'd enjoy it too, but getting in/there at that time is like trying to get tickets to a popular concert that is sold out.
So dunno. March may still be iffy traveling we were lucky in 2005 the weather was only rainy in Chicago, and light snow/no snow in NY. And of course beauteous in Honolulu.So we lucked out real well.
Well I need to dig out some train stuff {now that I packed it away earlier this year to please MOH} to send to JEFFREY...He may be happy to get the stuff...have some track to send to someone else if the wasps ever settle down,
Well erm..
EDIT: NOW< 2 PAGES TOP IN A ROW..I think I may be a target for the software??? EAT UP< FOOD IS ON ME..
Ulrich, Ja, das ist richtig!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
howmus The other was a gentleman from Germany who is spending a week visiting the area. His English was excellent, but I recognized the accent right off (sounds a lot like Ulrich...).
The other was a gentleman from Germany who is spending a week visiting the area. His English was excellent, but I recognized the accent right off (sounds a lot like Ulrich...).
Ray - did he sound like this:
"Vee hav vays of making you talk!" (Herr von Flick in the British WWII comedy series "Allo, allo")?
Folks in the UK complain about nasal American accent...
Morning All,
Currently it is 45 with an expected high of 70 under pleasant skies.
Mid-day shift today, so I am going to try and stop by H. D. and get the correct foam after w**k. I already tore out the bead foam and it is in the garbage bin out front.
After all the crawling around under the benchwork yesterday, I was kind of beat, so I watched the HBO miniseries "The Pacific". Entertaining set of dvd's. I have had them for some time, just never got around to watching them.
Prayers to all in need.
Paul
Living in Fernley Nevada, about 30 miles east of Reno, also lived in Oregon and California, but born In Brooklyn NY and raised on Long Island NY
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, I'll have a bowl of organic Pumpkin Flax Granola with some blueberries, skim milk, and lots of dark roast coffee in my R&GV RR mug. Please and Thank You Ma'am!
Mr. Beasley, nice work on the 0-6-0T. Is that the Bachman?
Jeffrey, enjoyed seeing the billboard for the SLOW this morning!
I was going to tell you last night but figured I had used enough bandwidth for the day, that we had a coupl visitors who came quite a ways to visit the museums yesterday. One couple was all the way from the West coast of the US. They had come to RIT to get their son who is a student there and happened to read about the museums opening for the year. Had a good chat with them waiting for the trolley to come. The other was a gentleman from Germany who is spending a week visiting the area. His English was excellent, but I recognized the accent right off (sounds a lot like Ulrich...). Didn't ask him what part of Germany he was from. Didn't think to until he had gotten back on the trolley at Midway. He found the differences between railroads over here and what he sees at home to be fascinating. I think he was amazed at how far behind we are on this side of the pond, but really enjoyed riding on our antique equipment.
Oh, I did mention to the crew that I probably had more than enough battery in the PiP to start the loco yesterday.... I was given the "unless you have something useful, shut up" look. The former Museum president (one of the younger guys who graduated from RIT) who is now the Operations Supt. did see me as I left and was walking to my car which was the last one in that parking lot. He grinned and said, Oh, the Prius is yours?!" Then said he got a big charge out of the bumper decal! His Dad has a very large Solar array in his back yard, so he wanted to know how my panels were doing now that sunny weather has arrived.
Today I get to see my doctor for my 6 month check up. Hopefully everything will be found to be good with no major changes needed! Do say a prayer for me though. Have a class reunion sub-committee meeting tonight here in Geneva, and most of the rest of the day will be spent printing programs for the MLK Scholarship Dinner.
Have a great day!
Good Morning,
Long weekend up here, Victoria Day, and naturally it is raining as it has been since Saturday morning. At least the grass is turning green. Would have been nice if the city had picked up the yard waste on Friday as they were supposed to do as we now have a lot of wet paper bags up and down the street. As often is the case the new garbage company that started last year is far worse than the last one, in spite of the 'new and improved' claims. Up until about 10 years ago the city actually did it and the service then was terrific. They even put an old sofa a neighbour put out into the truck. Now everything must go into the plastic bin or you keep it. Rant over.
ONR fan, it was a small hardware store on the main street but I think it closed in about 1997. The couple who ran it were elderly, about the same age as I am now, so maybe they were just young seniors. Anyway I do remember it as a very pretty little town assuming we are talking about the Millbrook near Peterborough. I have a U2g and agree with you that it is a beautiful loco. It is very picky about trackwork so if yours runs around your layout without problems, then you did a good job with the tracks. Mine is #6232 so it is near the last of the production run. It is actually the second one I bought as I had to return the first due to running problems. There was a major lurch in the drive.
Well not much on the agenda today. Likely we will finish watching the trip video as we just have the Cape Town portion left to see.
Jim, you were asking about photos. I don't have a Photobucket account but if you would like to see some I could just e-mail them to you. I think I still have your address.
Garry, I do like the photos of the cars. My grandfather had a '47 Ford which is the same as the '46. I remember it well even though I was only 5 when he died. Not surprising he liked Fords as he worked for CN police and his name was Charlie. I vaguely remember him taking me to the Transcona round house when I was about 4 and being a little frightened by the steam locos. That would have been in about '51. Now I'm about the same age as he was then.
Think I'll go run my Pacific a little today as it does need to get a break-in. I have it pulling a Rovos Rail coach that I bought on the trip. A South African passenger car does look a little strange behind a GTW engine but so what.
See you soon,
CN Charlie
Jeffrey, I did a tribute to Wolfgang, too....
It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse.
Good morning. It's 75° with 89% humidity. It'll be cloudy with a high of 90°.Nothing planned for today except to lay back and take it easy. I'll watch some movies and later I may get around to doing something on the layout.
Dr. Frankendiesel aka Scott Running BearSpace Mouse for president!15 year veteran fire fighterCollector of Apple //e'sRunning Bear EnterprisesHistory Channel Club life member.beatus homo qui invenit sapientiam
Good Morning
Get to see some sun and cloud with the high of 78F feeling like 89F....heeheehee
Still working on the ol' Lost Cause...sigh....found a couple of Hoosier cabinets though...now they are residing where they should have been....
Any argument carried far enough will end up in Semantics--Hartz's law of rhetoric Emerald. Leemer and Southern The route of the Sceptre Express Barry
I just started my blog site...more stuff to come...
http://modeltrainswithmusic.blogspot.ca/
The whole graduation weekend was delightful. We had perfect weather, and they kept the ceremony moving so that 1500 students got their diplomas in 2 1/2 hours, processions and speeches included. The keynote address, by Maine's Senator Angus King, was brief and very entertaining. He described "politics" as a Greek word, with "poly" meaning "many," and "tics" meaning "small, blood-sucking insects." Annie's boyfriend cringed at that, because, as a bio major, he knew that tics are actually arachnids, having 8 legs, not 6 like insects.
Good Morning!!!
Coffee and a sweet roll please, thanks.
Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after 4pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 88. Chance of precipitation is 60%. This is from the National Weather Service. Locals have it raining most of the day, as does the Weather Channel and Accuweather. In fact right now we are at an 85% chance for rain at 7am. Hmmmm.
David- Good to see you!
Terry- Glad he’s home safe! Great looking trees by the way.
Ken- Well, don’t know. If it was LTX or XLT I’d say LT usually stands for Light Truck. But since it’s LXT, my guess would be Touring?
Bear- Flat? If it were any flatter……I could wave at you. Well, if it weren’t for the Great Wall of China. I understand it was built halfway around the world to keep the Irish from taking over the world. And yes I love Google Earth too. You can drive right round.
Welp, what I do today depends on the rain situation. It looks like it could just rain cats and dogs here any second but so far drier than a popcorn f*rt. One thing is certain, the Church’s deposits need made and the bills need paid so first things fir….wait!!! What the deuce?! Is that a lawn mower I hear??!! Yes by jove, it is! Doesn’t that wacko know the transplants in this town have banded together and got a noise ordinance imposed? Before you were just polite and thoughtful of others on your own. And if you got caught up in something and had to fire up the old noise, well no one really complained because you usually only did it only if you had too. Now…… Yuppies.
Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!
Todd
Central Illinoyz
In order to keep my position as Master and Supreme Ruler of the House, I don't argue with my wife.
I'm a small town boy. A product of two people from even smaller towns. I don’t talk on topic….. I just talk.
Good morning.
Last full day for seniors, will also be very busy.
cudaken If a tire is called a LXT L being Load, X being Extra what would you think T stands for? Later, Ken
If a tire is called a LXT L being Load, X being Extra what would you think T stands for?
Later, Ken
Truck?
"Good Morning!" from Tipton IN
5/20/13
TIPTON IN
Bill Tidler Jr.
Near a cornfield in Indiana...
Morning coffee in the diner...
GOOD MONDAY MORNING!!!
Today is Monday, May 20th, 2013!!!
The prayers have been said, and the candles have been lit for those in need of special thoughts and prayers...
MAKE it a GREAT day!!!
EDIT: Oh, BOY, I got TOP again...I guess I buy!
Gidday All, Hot chocolate please Flo, ( nonchalant wave to Vinnie, "who me????) )
Todd, no offence taken, have British cousin who, when young, thought that we could walk to Australia at low tide. Williamsville, , flat I guess is the operative word in those parts?
Ray, sounds like "Mr Murphy" was in attendance, still glad you had a fun day. Thought you would have suggested the virtues of a solar powered "trickle" battery charger though to be fair , I don't like to leave batteries on the charge unattended.
JimRCGMO, no offence taken either, don't recollect where my signature "quote" actually came from. I have always tried to live as an optimist but find as I'm getting older I find that I'm now more of a "cynical optimist" '
Isn't Google Maps good value, in the space of 10 minutes I've managed to "visit" Williamsville, The Rochester & Genesee Valley Railroad Museum, and Cape Girardeau, I take it that is a rather large cement plant, south of town Jim ??
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them.
"Bonne Nuit"
Cheers, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Good Morning Gang!
Pretty bad weather over here. It has been raining on and off for the last few days. Typical holiday weather in my neck of the woods.
I hardly find the time for anything else than political work and it is not even campaign time! We still need to go through the registration procedure for the upcoming election. As it seems, for each hurdle you have overcome, ten new ones pop up
Lessons learned since I entered politics:
I am still not sure I like this!
Blessings to all and a prayer for those in need!
Packer Burlington Northern #24 not sure either it'd take a lot of skill(that I lack), if you need temporary power and cars you know who to holler at! lol. Most BN geeps eventually got converted to the GN standard of 4 steps. The easiest ones to model would be the ex-NP ones that hadn't yet been converted to 4-steps. IIRC, all the conversions were done in the late-70s to early 80s. I just don't know what can be done in 21 x 39 inches
Burlington Northern #24 not sure either it'd take a lot of skill(that I lack), if you need temporary power and cars you know who to holler at!
lol. Most BN geeps eventually got converted to the GN standard of 4 steps. The easiest ones to model would be the ex-NP ones that hadn't yet been converted to 4-steps. IIRC, all the conversions were done in the late-70s to early 80s.
I just don't know what can be done in 21 x 39 inches
Jim, agreed I'll let the rest of them fight with it while I enjoy my DC block control.
Edit: Atlas makes GP7/9 models with some detailing they make great BN models. I have a site with BN Geeps, and I have tons of BLMA parts so if you need some I can send them your way when you detail your models.
Flo, Beer!
Evening Folks
Flo, another Beer please and keep them coming!
Work Front, my Typical Day.
1 Services Manger Stole my brake job, rewrote the ticket in his name. I have proof I will add.
2 Evil Tyler threw some F bombs at me and pretty much called me a F idiot and rewrote a $40.00 + commission ticket in his name. Now he may be right but let me ask car people this.
3 A/C in the showroom not working worth a dam. Have a nasty heat rash going, and I will leave it at that!
4 Closed at 6:00 got the last customer out at 7:30, left at 7:50 pm. But, it was my ticket and made me some good change. So while I would have loved to leave at say 6:30, I cannot complain!
Jim, I was able to get the tunnel clear with little effort this time, I lucked out!
David P Good to see you back! Hows being a VP treating you? Yes my layout is good sizes, around 175 sq feet give or take. Now if you where referring to the diagram I posted, it was just a idea I was working on. If things work out for me with BoS here is the layout I want to build.
http://s83.photobucket.com/user/cudaken/media/Layut%20ideas/ThePlan.jpg.html]
I hate Rust