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Elliot's Trackside Diner, March 2013

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 11:42 AM

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Jeffery, I am 99.99% sure it has a hot frame. The trucks have the L shape tap that has the + red wire ran to it. Negative wire is solder to the engine weight it self from the looks of it.

 After looking at just now I am thinking the trucks are not making good contact with the frame. So tonight I am going to spray down the frame and trucks with CRC and lube the trucks.

 Once this problem is problem is solved it will be a great engine.

Why not run wires from the ground plates on the trucks to the frame? This will insure a good connection.

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Posted by kbkchooch on Friday, March 15, 2013 12:10 PM

howmus

Finally did it....  Got the maximum benefit from the EV mode in the PIP...  Managed to drive all the way to my son's house yesterday (the ICE fired up once to warm up the system, as it was in the mid 30's outside).  Charged it at my son's house, and then drove home on EV and had 1.9 miles of EV left.  Headed over to the Boy Scout Troop meeting, got there and had .9 miles left.  Since it is uphill to the meeting, I was able to get back to the top of the hill around corner from my house and have .1 mile left.  Coasted down the hill around the corner and into my driveway and still had .1 mile left of the trip display...  (Grin, grin , grin)  I dunno, just fun to do stuff like that! Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 1:18 PM

Guys halp! I keep thinking of getting a pennsy GG1 and the broadway limited set! Dunce Curt what's happening?! 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, March 15, 2013 1:56 PM

Strong coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

I would love one of those pennsy GG1's, too. Though I would prefer it in Union Pacific colors.Laugh

If I haven't mentioned it, there is a local fella around here who has an original 1957 Lionel train set. He wants $300 for it. My oldest brother might be interested, if it is identical to the one he had as a youth. I'll look into it this weekend and find out particulars. I will recognize it if it's the same train, because I grew up with it, too. Anyone have any idea what those things run for these days?

Had the spot on my foot biopsied today, so should have the results towards the end of the month. Because of the new neuropathy in that leg, she wanted to have it looked at. She cut deep and tried to get it all, so whatever it is/was, hopefully will stay gone. Takes a couple weeks to scab over and heal.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 2:26 PM

Cederstrand
Had the spot on my foot biopsied today, so should have the results towards the end of the month. Because of the new neuropathy in that leg, she wanted to have it looked at. She cut deep and tried to get it all, so whatever it is/was, hopefully will stay gone. Takes a couple weeks to scab over and heal.

That's one of the few things I like about neuropathy. Any time they've had to go into my foot to remove something I never felt a thing except a little pressure if they were snapping off a piece of bone, then or afterwards. My right foot has been broken over a dozen times since 2004 and the left one has been broken three times in the past five years. The worst I ever felt was a minor ache.

*

Gary, are we going to have to tie you to a chair?Wink

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 2:35 PM

Probably, just let me get some more BN stuff! Stick out tongueLaugh

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, March 15, 2013 2:43 PM

Well

 found out the payoff for the kia. Lower than I expected. MOH doesn't think I/we ought to sell it. BUT we need to get out form any payments we can. I will talk to my father to see if he will pay it off so I can get clean title to sell it with. I should get some equity out of it- quite nicely to get something, yes maybe a year or two older, a few more miles, BUT we won't have the payment!

MOH is napping now, but to bolster my argument I will point out the following things: 1} can MOH guarantee that within the next 3 months will have a job? {no} 2} cna MOH guarantee me MOH WILL get accepted into the CNA or LPN course training school {need placement test, interview on why to be CNA or LPN, and letter of reference from an employer, acceptance panel to get it {no} 3} can MOH guarantee we will have money from any other source to cover bill shortfall {NO}...so I think I may just win my argument!

Now we got new notice on SNAP..they upped it since MOH has NO income, BUT it is still not enough to feed two of us. Will have to be cheap, crafty and budget carefully. Sounds like  a lot per month, but break it down and...well not much for dinner, especially in 5 week months..and there are 5 of those in a year.. No snacks or nonsence foods,  {which MOH adores and will miss}, and food pantries will still come in handy to stretch the budget.

Winter is still here...and next Wed. is the first Astrological day of spring. Snowing spitting now here. IS nice 70* in {hot}lanta now! Nice to know somewhere in the continental USA is warmer but not to the nether regions of FL, who had frost warnings too I heard.

Well, I can sleep on sellign the KIA as won't do business on weekends when business offices are closed.Still need to get out form under payment though.

Well off to nap, my shoulder is killing me so will rest it.

HAve a great evening everybody!

We will have to have either a $1.98 pizza or $1 pasghetti with $1 sauce can for dinner...might as well get used to it! And they wonder why people get fat! Cheap foods, when necessary can mean less healhty diets.

Geeked

 

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 2:51 PM

Galaxy hang in there, is there any way I could help? 

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Posted by Packer on Friday, March 15, 2013 3:39 PM

Afternoon guys

Dunno what I'm gonna do with the rest of today. I might work on some trains. I need to buy some Scalecoat Black, BN green, silver, and Reefer yellow. I'm not happy with the Foquil/Pollyscale BN green as it looks really light compared to everything else in BN I have. I don't know how well the Foquil enamels would work with scalecoat... I figure on the Fs I should go ahead and paint the black and green before putting on the rear doors and grabs as the color speration line would be underneath the side grabs; and the it would be tricky to get paint into the areas behind the rear door if I put them on.

Jeff, some earlier P2K geeps had hot frames. The GP20 Ken has is one of those.

Ken, I think I mave have soldered the wire when it was pinched between the screw and the frame. On those older P2Ks I like to mill the weight a bit so I can stick an Atlas light-board style decoder in it. I can then drill a hole through one of the power pick-up tabs into the framwe, and screw it to the frame. No lost power there. I thought about extending the wire down thto the brass screws in the frame, but it would interfere with how the shell fits... But it looks like the wire is still attached. What kind of decoder did you put in it?

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 3:52 PM

The floquil BN green is what I used to Custom paint #5624, #24 and my sky dome is the color off? 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, March 15, 2013 4:29 PM

Howdy .... Just checking in. Still in Cincinnati. ... Looks like a lot is going on. I ready everything when I get home.I just posted in the thread about using puns ofr names on the layoput.

Gary ...... I like the BN dome car. Several years ago I modified a Bachmann HO Santa Fe Dome to look like a GN full dome. I painted in GN Empire Builder. Then, a couple of year later, Walthers announced it would produce the entire Empire Builder including the dome.

Ho[e everyone is doing well.

Cheers !

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 4:32 PM

thanks Heartland, I plan on getting some more of the bachmann domes to repaint for NP(maybe) and GN. phew just went for a quick jog, I'm outta shape.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, March 15, 2013 5:15 PM

Coffee refill, please. And some chips & salsa, too.

***Jeffrey, I sure hope I never experience anything remotely approaching what you deal with as for neuropathy. Mine is so minor by comparison it is hardly worth mentioning. I could still feel the needle, although it didn't hurt any. This could simply be one of the numerous oddities that happens from the underlying sarcoidosis and although an unwelcome change, just maybe it is not permanent. Time will tell.

Just up from the train room, test running a little Bachmann 0-6-0. It is DCC, but of course I can't change the CV # with the Digitrax until I buy one of those additional thingys to hook up to it. Couldn't read it on the program track and couldn't change it on the main either. Time to just bite it and buy the dang extra device. Sure don't need several locos all programmed to 03.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 6:04 PM

Cederstrand
Just up from the train room, test running a little Bachmann 0-6-0. It is DCC, but of course I can't change the CV # with the Digitrax until I buy one of those additional thingys to hook up to it. Couldn't read it on the program track and couldn't change it on the main either. Time to just bite it and buy the dang extra device. Sure don't need several locos all programmed to 03.

I have several Bachmann locos I couldn't read on the program track with my Digitrax Zephyr. I put a resistor across the ends of the rails and then I could read them.

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Posted by chochowillie on Friday, March 15, 2013 7:28 PM

Cederstrand
Time to just bite it and buy the dang extra device. Sure don't need several locos all programmed to 03.

Funny you should mention that Rob. I finally gave up and bought one of the "devices" myself. It makes life a lot easier. Whistling

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Posted by chochowillie on Friday, March 15, 2013 7:30 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
I put a resistor across the ends of the rails and then I could read them.

So now you mention it.... OK, how many ohms Jeffrey???

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:01 PM

I mentioned earlier to "beware the Ides of March" and meant to post something about THAT earlier, but got sidetracked by the search for a vehicle.

Here is the stuff behind the phrase:

 Caesar's Assassination

A more well known occurrence on the Ides of March, in 44 B.C., Julius Caesar was assassinated, at the foot of a statue of Pompey where the Senate was meeting.* Before Caesar went to the theater of Pompey to attend the Senate meeting, he had been given advice not to go, but he didn't listen.

Source of the Expression "Beware the Ides of March"

Because of the assassination and the soothsayer's exchange with Julius Caesar about the dangers he faced in Shakespeare's Julius Caesar tragedy, the Ides of March now signifies a fateful day. Here is the relevant passage:

Caesar:  Who is it in the press that calls on me? 
I hear a tongue shriller than all the music 
Cry "Caesar!" Speak, Caesar is turn'd to hear.

Soothsayer: Beware the ides of March. 

Caesar: What man is that?

Brutus: A soothsayer bids you beware the ides of March.
Julius Caesar Act 1, scene 2, 15-19

Changing Significance of the Ides of March

  1. Before the historical assassination of Julius Caesar, the Ides of March was:   
    • A division of the calendar based on the phases of the moon.       
                In some months, the Ides is on the 15th, and in others, it is the 13th. It's supposed to be on the day of the full moon. [See Roman Calendar.]       
    • March's Ides marked the beginning of the consular year: The two annually-elected Roman consuls took office on the Ides from c. 220 B.C. to 153. From 153 B.C. the consuls began to take office on the Kalends of January (what we call New Year's Day).
  2. Even immediately after the historical assassination of Julius Caesar, "the ides of March" could be understood to refer to the assassination. Cicerodidn't have to say "the assassination of Caesar." He could assume he would be understood when he alluded to the assassination just by reference to "the Ides of March."   

    Instead of saying something like the take-down of the dictator means there is hope for the Republic, he wrote -- with complete confidence that he would be understood:

Idus Martiae consolantur.   The Ides of March are encouraging.   ~ Cicero Letters to Atticus.14.4 (url = homepage.usask.ca/~jrp638/DeptTransls/CicLetters.html April 19, 44 B.C.)

 

HAve a great night, sleep well...

Geeked

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Posted by chochowillie on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:04 PM

Well folks, here we are March 15th, and it looks and feels more like Feb. 15th I kid you not. Oh well, aside from having to shovel the white stuff it means more modeling time Whistling.

New dining room set coming tomorrow so I had to move the old one after I took pictures of it to put on Kijji. The old one is just over 2 years old but MOH just had to have a fancy round wood one so ya know how it is. Happy wife, happy life. Zip it! 

Did a few different things today in the Train Room. Did some wiring, then some re-wiring. Laid some cork roadbed on the revised mining branch line. Tried to get JMRI working  again and was sort of successful Confused.

Even ran some engines and took a very shaky hand video of one of them.  It's not very good I won't post it . Not great but here ya go if you are interested.Movie

I must say that it's nice to finally be able to actually "run" something. Oh right, I started to sort out how and where to put the scenic decider in or up or whatever. Hmm

Cheers

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:05 PM

chochowillie
So now you mention it.... OK, how many ohms Jeffrey???

I believe it's a 1K (1,000 ohms) resistor. I soldered mine to two rail joiners then soldered one joiner to the end of the track and left the other one unsoldered so I slide it on and off as needed. I usually just leave it connected.

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Posted by chochowillie on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:09 PM

jeffrey-wimberly
I usually just leave it connected.

Thanks Jeffrey, I like that idea, simple..

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:22 PM

chochowillie
Well folks, here we are March 15th, and it looks and feels more like Feb. 15th I kid you not. Oh well, aside from having to shovel the white stuff it means more modeling time Whistling.

Beware the ides of March oh mighty Caesar.

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Posted by Curt Webb on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:37 PM

Evening All,

I just wanted to say hi. Just got back from Gainesville (had awesome time). I have a bunch of photos and videos of the NHRA event if anyone is interested. Of course I need to load them into the computerSigh.

I just quickly glanced over the forum--Is Ulrich in the hospital?

Hope everyone has a good night and prayers for those in need. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 9:11 PM

Watched one of those super shark movies today. Very big bogus moment. A warship captioned on the screen as a destroyer was very obviously an Iowa Class battleship. Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by Packer on Friday, March 15, 2013 9:40 PM

Evening guys

Went out for pizza tonight. THen my sister wanted to go to a place called "yougurt mountain." That place is AWESOME. I had a 50/50 mix of cake batter and cookies and cream, with all sorts of candies and such on top. My calorie count for the day is probably overboard....

Gary, The ones you painted look right. The jar I have looks kinda light, and the one Pollyscale I tried was much lighter than the Front Range centerbeam I was trying to touch-up.

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, March 15, 2013 10:14 PM

 Evening Folks

 Flo, Beer Pleases

 Work Front I was there, the customers where there and Tyler was nice to me. Pretty much covers work.

 GP 20 PK 2000, well it is working great tonight so I not fixing it!  Vince's I am using the Digitrax DH 123 that came out of the SD 40-2 I sent you. So far I love the engine!

 Bachmann GP 30 Today before work I tore it down and lubed it, it it a test run and still lake a racket. Sound more like a HO Slot Car than a engine.Tested it pulling power and it was lite in the loafers.

 The GP 20 had been struggling a little pulling 24 cars, and the Bachmann GP 30 needed some track time.So lashed them up and using decoder pro throttle so I can control each engine with them not being speed matched yet.

  Odd thing happened, the Bachmann quieted down a lot! I don't know if it is because it is pulling a load, if the lube soak in or it just likes the GP 20! Surprise Maybe it is love! Whistling Either way it works for me!

 Ken

 

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Posted by howmus on Friday, March 15, 2013 10:20 PM

Evenin' Floks!

"Et tu, Brute?"

Janie, just a decaf to help me unwind a bit.  Thank you Ma'am!

Got a bit of Spring cleaning done today, and spent a good amount of time building stone walls and starting the stacked wooden fence on the layout.  A new CO detector I purchased online arrived today so I installed that in my bedroom.  Also got my column written for the Division Newsletter and sent to the editor for inclusion.

I see Ulrich hasn't been today, so I have to assume he went to the hospital last night.  Do hope he is OK!

Tomorrow I have a meeting out at camp with the Ranger and the Camp Director for the Rotary camp that uses the camp after Boy Scout Camp is done each summer.  Rotary is considering upgrading the camp sound system and since I put in and have maintained the old system for close to 20 years, i am glad to turn it over to someone else...

Prayers for all in need!

73

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Posted by Cederstrand on Friday, March 15, 2013 10:54 PM

Chamomile tea, please.

***Jeffrey, where would I find a 1K resistor? Radio shack perhaps?

Time for me to hit the hay. Good night all.

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 11:09 PM

Packer

Evening guys

Went out for pizza tonight. THen my sister wanted to go to a place called "yougurt mountain." That place is AWESOME. I had a 50/50 mix of cake batter and cookies and cream, with all sorts of candies and such on top. My calorie count for the day is probably overboard....

Gary, The ones you painted look right. The jar I have looks kinda light, and the one Pollyscale I tried was much lighter than the Front Range centerbeam I was trying to touch-up.

How many coats are you doing, just out of curiosity. I did't prime my models prior to painting, that might be what's doing it. 

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, March 15, 2013 11:10 PM

 Rob, Radio Shack has them, I think I paid $1.00 for 10 of them.

 Ken

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:05 AM

Insomniac Special, please.

***Ken, sounds good to me. Thanks!

Couldn't sleep. Listening to old time radio shows. Finally just took a benadryl. That aught to do the trick.

Sleep Rob

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