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Elliot's Trackside Diner, March 2013

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:04 PM

alrighty not feeling as bad as I was yesterday, let's get this show on the road hopefully my MT couplers got here so I can swap the rapidos(and a set of Kato knuckles out). 

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Posted by chochowillie on Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:13 PM

Sir Madog
Zoe, coffee and a slice of that cherry crumble pie, topped with vanilla ice cream and sprinkles of bitter sweet chocolate, please:

How appropriate Sir Madog, and totally understandable. "The Bitter Sweet Chocolate" that is. This is bringing back memories of two years ago with my Mother. Same battle, different players. At least I had power of attorney.

Hang in there Sir, this to will pass and you will survive believe it or not.

Regards

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:30 PM

Dennis - the selection was intentional, the whole situation of my parents is like this - their life crumbling, add to that the coldness my mother is showing and the bitter sweetness of me trying to help them enjoy the rest of their life.

Galaxy - unless you are declared unable to reason by a court ruling, no one can stop you from having as much money on your hand as you like. Of course, the nursing home discourages having larger sums at your disposal to prevent theft, but it is up to you to follow this request. Guess how many times I have been trying to talk my parents into depositing this amount (over 1,000 bucks)?

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Posted by Weighmaster on Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:02 PM

Ulrich, My father passed away in 1974, 3 months shy of their 40th anniversary.  He was as patient as a saint.  My mother was widowed for 38 years, until her passing two years ago, just 3 moths shy of her 97th birthday.  Her short term memory had pretty much faded away, but she still recalled many things from years past, in particular a garage sale she had about 30 years ago, when she believed that a neighbor "stole" a used toilet seat that was priced at $0.25.  No proof, of course.  I think she just forgot to mark it down.

PLEASE watch your health issues and take care of yourself first.  My brother spent several years trying to get my mother into assisted living or a nursing home.  She would agree to it but then somehow "sabotage" the process during the interview procedure.  He passed away 7 years at age 70, still unsuccessful in his efforts.  Finally, after two more years, we (my brother's family) were able to get her into an assisted/nursing facility close to my brother's family (300 miles from me). 

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:14 PM

 #504 sports it's new MTL's.

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Posted by Cederstrand on Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:47 PM

Coffee in a BURLINGTON NORTHERN mug, please.

***Jeffrey, nice Exxon scene!Thumbs Up

Been contemplating the future (HO) expansion, more than doing any physical work on it.

Two hired hands got a lot done here on the farm today. Will probably have them both back on Monday.

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Posted by galaxy on Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:56 PM

Well

MOH applied to the local hospital for volunteering. You'd think they want all the volunteers they can get as they are always clamoring for them, so we may hear something. It may not pay, but increases contacts and possibilities for future gains in employment.....Also keeps MOH busy and out of "depression" if MOH has some purpose to look forward to.

The problem with all these electronic resumes and applications is that while it may tell you it was "successful" it doens't give you ANY idea what becomes of it when done. You never know if anybody EVEN EVER gets to look at it. With a paper hand-in resume application, you at least get to hand it to a person and assume the manager will at least glance at it, even if the ultimately throw it away.

Maybe we will hear, hopefully soon.

MOH is disagreeing with me over selling the Kia, as doesn't want to. BUT I am the financial "wizard" of the family and pay all  the bills. MOH is content to know they are paid, And doesn't want to hear that we are in trouble paying them! If I wasn't so good at saving something each paycheck...even if only $6, we wouldn't have ANY money to coast these last two months. BUT it WILL run out, and the tax refund will only last so long and I will not Wait til they are towing it away {we DO have cash value in it now} to say "I TOLD you so"! I pointed THAT out to MOH. Sigh was the response. It WILL Come sooner than later! If MOH doesn't do SOMETHING to bring money into the household!

ENough of our problems..I see ULRICH is at his wits end, WE are too with FIL, MIL and no where near his troubles YET.

 

I see KEN gets mild reprieve on home, so he is OK for now. Hope it goes through for him He is better off than we are..>I can't begin to THINK of buying new trains, K10 hobby shop or not! I haven't had a hobby budget in 2 years now! And while our home is paid for, the land is LEASED, so we are still close to having to sell if need be! MOH doesn't want to hear THAT either! Of course we can't rent for as "little" {a lot to us right now} as we pay for lot rent, BUT WE have to pay the maintenance here!

Sigh

Geeked

 

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:02 PM

Afternoon guys.

I cleaned up my workshop/room since I got a shelving unit. I found out I don't have 3 ABBA sets of Fs. I have an extra ABB set... Two of those are in SP black widow, and I'll probably sell them later. The third is an early F3B, and will likely become an RCU car. As a plus, I realized I have almost enough stuff to knock out all 3 sets, save for beacons, horns, antenna, winterization hatches, cut levers, and plows (I have 3 SP plows, I might be able to sell them or mod them to work) I also found a few P2K GP drives, and some cars I didn't know I had, and another duplicate car...

Gary, I like the engine

Ken, With that extra $250, you might be able to spring for that EM1 you wanted if you look around.

Jeff, I forgot to ask about an athearn 54'  PS hoppers you may have thrown out. I need a few to cut up into Magor hoppers (cheaper than buying the $45 Exactrail one). Also are those planet toys cars HO scale? I may be interested in the escorts and pintos, just to put them on racks.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:25 PM

Packer
Jeff, I forgot to ask about an athearn 54'  PS hoppers you may have thrown out. I need a few to cut up into Magor hoppers (cheaper than buying the $45 Exactrail one). Also are those planet toys cars HO scale? I may be interested in the escorts and pintos, just to put them on racks.

No hoppers of the type you describe. I could spare one Escort and one Pinto. They're slightly weathered as are all the other vehicles.

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Posted by Curt Webb on Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:26 PM

Evening All,

Had the wimp version of Jambalaya tonight. Also had a cup of coffee after words, as it tends to settle my stomach. 

Went up to the LHS and picked up the cars Phil left for me. I will be able to use all of them after some minor  tweaking and weathering.

This week on the RR front I "planted" 50 more trees and put in mile markers (Tichy) on the 2 main ROW. Next week I plan on building the Tichy milk platform and putting it by the farm. Today I ordered PRR whistle and Bell  Posts from WrightTrak. After that I think I am pretty much done with the details I want to do on the layout.

Tomorrow I am driving up to Gainesville for my NHRA fix.

I posted in the DCC section of the forum concerning isolating the TT/RH area. If  anyone can help with that I would appreciate it.

Galaxy- I continue to say prayers for you and YOH. I hope YOH finds something soon.

Ulrich- Sorry to hear that you are still getting dragged back to the nursing home. I sure hope you get some relief soon.

Hope everyone has a good night and prayers for those in need.

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:55 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

Packer
Jeff, I forgot to ask about an athearn 54'  PS hoppers you may have thrown out. I need a few to cut up into Magor hoppers (cheaper than buying the $45 Exactrail one). Also are those planet toys cars HO scale? I may be interested in the escorts and pintos, just to put them on racks.

No hoppers of the type you describe. I could spare one Escort and one Pinto. They're slightly weathered as are all the other vehicles.

1 each should be enough. Eventually I'll get around to casting them to make loads for racks.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:12 PM

Packer
1 each should be enough. Eventually I'll get around to casting them to make loads for racks.

I'll toss them into the box.

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Posted by cudaken on Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:14 PM

 Evening Dinners.

 Flo, Beer Pleases.

 Interesting Train Day. 

 Went to K-10 and blew the budget for the next few months. I now have 1 NIB engine, 2 New to Me engines and 2 of my old engines back.

 New Bachmann GP 30 PRR. So far a big disappointment. While I don't mind the lack of details it is still a good looking engine with me being half blind. But it makes a lot of racket! But I all so did not lube it nor have I gave it any real break in time. I pulled it to lube before I hurt anything.

 Vince, I did get your package today and and have a few questions. Oh, by the way thank you so much for sending it Priority Mail, I will pay you back for that.

 One of my old PK F 3 showed up with the worm gear cover and and drive shaft off. It is the one with the Kato motor in it. I have found all the parts and one that I don't know what it is?  It is sort of square in shape and has 2 tabs. Looks like there is a ware pattern from the worm gear, but looking at the other engine have no clue to where it should go? 

 Did you test run the GP 20? It showed up with with a BBQ decoder in it, not a good sign. This is a question for you, Jeffery and anyone else with a idea. I installed a new decoder, used Decoder Pro and it and it read the decoder just fine. Placed on the track and lights came on but would not move. Moved it back and forth and still nothing. Took it of the track, then placed it back on and off she went! Must be dirty wheels, so I cleaned them. Placed it on the A Line to drag some coal, did the same thing? Placed it on the B line, moved back and forth, nothing? Tried picking it up again, re-railed and it now doing just fine?

 While the GP 20 is in a Blue PK 2000 box and has a can motor in it it looks like it has PK 2000 Brown Box / Athearn BB trucks? Decoder install while it maybe be factory looks like a Digitrax AT wiring harness. Just slip on clips, think that may be the problem?

 Have not installed decoders in the B&O SD 9 but boy it looks sweet!

 See you all later!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, March 14, 2013 7:32 PM

Ken: Sounds like you have a loose connection or possibly something going on with the motor.

*

I've been working on an FP7 that had a bum motor. I removed the old motor, took the flywheel and shaft extension off it then hooked it up to a Bachmann power pack and turned to throttle up. Lots of vibration. Looks like my thought about the brushes or commutator was a bit off. Looks more like a bad pole. I've fitted the flywheel and shaft extension to another motor. It's a little shorter in length than the old one but the shaft ends are a little longer so that helped make up for it. I got the right length sorted out front and rear for the shafts so now I have to wire the motor then set it back in with the shafts again and secure it in place.

This is how far I've gotten at this point:



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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:12 PM

Just a notch over 2am here and I am up again. My heart woke me up, racing like an Indy car. I have not felt that bad since my last heart attack. If i don´t improve, I´ll wake up Petra to take me into the hospital.

I guess it´s has been just too much lately for my old ticker to merrily tick along.

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Posted by Packer on Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:58 PM

 

Ken, that decoder has been BBQd for a while. I just put it there to show what I meant by trimming the prongs so a DH123 will fit. The prongs should work, I just have a hard time soldering to those tabs. It was working when I was testing it earlier.

As for the Gp20's weird starting and stopping, the wire for the ground must have came loose. I can't recall if I soldered it or used a screw or both. Check for the black wire from the harness. It may need to be re-soldered, or it broke. I can't get really small brass screws or washers for using screws around here..

As for the square in shape and two tabs? Is it kinda reverse-rounded on one side? If so, that's the original motor mount. I recall I tossed it in there. I found the other one today. You won't need it on the Kato-motored one.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:47 PM

Well I have the new motor in the FP7. I got it wired, shafts put in, motor hot glued in place after much eye-balling to make sure all was right. Hooked the motor to the decoder and sent it off on a test run. It runs very well but buzzes like a hair trimmer. Oh well, can't have everything. That's better than what it WAS doing. Went into town earlier today to make a bank deposit, went to Lowe's to get several types of small screws then the post office to send a something I didn't want back to a club I belong to, at their expense.

Time to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.



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Posted by kbkchooch on Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:02 PM

Just sliding in for a nightcap, decaf that is!Big Smile

Train wise, been a productive day. Mantua 0-6-0 got decoder and lights installed. The decoder came out of an SD40-2 that got upgraded to a Tsunami, along with a GP38-2 that also got a Tsunami!

3 installs DONE!

Tomorrow the weatherguessers are predicting temps in the upper 50's with copious sunshine, so the 3 Midland Geeps will get their blue paint tomorrow, and a D&H C420 will get its lighter blue also! That is, after I get my outdoor chores done. You know, bringing in wood, sweeping out the garage. SWMBO leaves the garage door open on windy days, wonders why it fills with leaves??Confused 

Jeffrey, that Pinto wagon reminds me of one a guy I used to work with had. He put a V8 in it, somehow cracked the frame. Tried to sell it as is, nobody wanted it. So he pulled the motor and trans. cut the car in half and put 1/2 in the shop dumpster 1 week, the other half the next week!

Ulrich,, be safe, go to the hospital!

Well, the Sandman is callin,,,,,gotta go! 

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Friday, March 15, 2013 1:02 AM

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

Friday, March 15, 2013

Cool

Mischief

TIPTON IN

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Posted by Burlington Northern #24 on Friday, March 15, 2013 1:51 AM

Thanks Vince I may pick up another just so I can get a short 11 car train moved instead of the poor little NW2 trying with all it's might not to stall. Or I could pair it with my atlas GP15-1 that thing is a brute, I just need a horn for it.

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Posted by galaxy on Friday, March 15, 2013 5:11 AM

Morning coffee  in then diner with friends...

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Friday, March 15th!!!

BEWARE the IDES of March!!

The prayer candles will be lit at 8 AM for those in need...and an extra one for ULRICH as he goes to the hospital.

Apparently, AMTRAK is doing well, but "bleeding money":

http://www.gadling.com/2013/03/14/report-amtraks-growing-but-bleeding-money-on-long-trips/

 

MAke it a great day!

Geeked

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Posted by JeremyB on Friday, March 15, 2013 5:15 AM

Ulrich : Hope everything is okay with your heart condition.

Well guys,

Its Friday and I am happy about that. I cant wait for 4pm today Stick out tongue I hope its somewhat busy at work as that makes the day go by fast. I will drop by later tonight. I have to go to the art supply store tonight to pick up some paints. And then Michaels sometime on the weekends to pick up some fine liner brushes.

See you all tonight.

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Posted by TMarsh on Friday, March 15, 2013 6:56 AM

Good Morning!!!

Coffee and eggs benedict please. Thanks.

High of 66°F!!! Getting there.

Ray- Florida huh? Hm. Well you might add Illinoy to the list. No I know you would add Illinoyz to the list if you heard the goins on next to me. See this fella, in his thirties, was saying he doesn’t know how the “B” restriction (corrective lenses requirement) got on his license. He’s never had glasses or contacts and doesn’t need them. No he didn't have them last time he took the test…….as I was walking out, he was still taking his eye exam, which consisted of reading “line 2” and it was just three groups of three numbers. He’d been there quite a few minutes and like I said as I was walking out I heard the lady saying, “no....that’s not it…..no….no not 2….the last two number are right, the first number is not…..no.” Now I figure with a little bit of time…Whistling..of course this fellow wasn’t smart enough just to go 1 through 9. I guess, he was actually trying to figure it out. Oh and he was on his last try of the “skills” portion of getting his..(gulp) CDL. “No ma’am, I didn’t flunk it….I just ran out of time, so I get to try again.”  Somehow the keys got locked in the truck and, well….they ran out of his scheduled timeConfused. Kinda curious how this turns out really.

GOOD DAY!!! I learned what “Philippic” means. I say any day you learn something, no matter how small…., is a good day.

Ulrich- Maybe your Brother would like to mediate? Sarcasm, but a good suggestion should he voice his opinion to you. Hey, here’s an idea….tell them to call him. No, but seriously, I sure hope they grow to realize the place isn’t that bad. It’s just they’ve been so independent and pride doesn’t allow them to accept this phase of their lives. Plus the other issues, causes a lot of grief for the loved ones affected. Maybe they need time to see it a different way. Like sayin, why do you want to mess with all the things involved with a house now? It’s time to downsize and let go of those worries kinda speech. Don’t know. But you and your folks are in my prayers.

Walked around the house yesterday….hoo boy. Lotta w**k out there. Bout three years worth.

Best take a nap and think about it.

Ya’ll have a good day, ya hear!!!!

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Friday, March 15, 2013 7:02 AM

Good Morning

Everything here is having another dusting of that dang white stuff on it...again...sigh...in other words another dull winter's day for us'uns.....GrumpyWhistling

Got  few things need doing downtown today..then it is off to the LHS to pick up my order there...Wink

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Posted by kbkchooch on Friday, March 15, 2013 7:43 AM

Morning gang! Cowboy

Flo, since Todd's buying, I'm eating! Mischief Howabout a big stack of flapjacks and some bacon along with some coffee!!

BIG yellow thing in the sky this morning, frost on the car now, but it's supposed to get up into the 50's today!Smile  So I'm off to the Post office, then stacking wood, cleaning off the deck, then painting engines!

Catch y'all later!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:15 AM

Good morning. It's 46° with 95% humidity. The high will be 78°.


I have a lot of doing nothing planned for today.



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Posted by cudaken on Friday, March 15, 2013 8:21 AM

 Good Morning

 Flo, Diet Dew

 Hope Ulrich s doing OK!

 Dang, my 2 days off are up. Crying So back to work I go.

 Vince's I am thinking it is the ground my self. After I posted I shut the layout down for about 10 minutes and when I powered back up got nothing out of the GP 20. Before the LED's would come on, now they don't work either. Decoder is not burnt looking, so must not be getting power.

 Did you solder the ground wire to a screw or just the weight?

 Jeffery, I am thinking the screws that hold on the weight would be a better ground mounting point for the negative wire, any thoughts?

 See you all later.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Friday, March 15, 2013 9:50 AM

cudaken
 Jeffery, I am thinking the screws that hold on the weight would be a better ground mounting point for the negative wire, any thoughts?

That's a good idea provided it makes a direct connection to ground. In many locos I've worked on the left rail pickups connect through the truck to the frame (hot frame) and any metal object in direct contact becomes part of that circuit. On many Proto 1000/2000 locos I've worked on though I don't think the frame is directly grounded to the left rail pickups unless it's designed like the FA1/FA2 which DOES have a hot frame.

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Posted by howmus on Friday, March 15, 2013 10:16 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, just a bowl of Pumpkin Flax Granola and a pot of dark roast coffee for me this morning.

Ulrich, I do hope you headed to the hospital, and are doing OK!!!  My prayers for you sir.

Looking outside this morning I see clouds with a few rays of sunlight on occasion mixed with little white things falling.  Probably will continue to be about the same most of the day.......

Finally did it....  Got the maximum benefit from the EV mode in the PIP...  Managed to drive all the way to my son's house yesterday (the ICE fired up once to warm up the system, as it was in the mid 30's outside).  Charged it at my son's house, and then drove home on EV and had 1.9 miles of EV left.  Headed over to the Boy Scout Troop meeting, got there and had .9 miles left.  Since it is uphill to the meeting, I was able to get back to the top of the hill around corner from my house and have .1 mile left.  Coasted down the hill around the corner and into my driveway and still had .1 mile left of the trip display...  (Grin, grin , grin)  I dunno, just fun to do stuff like that! Smile, Wink & Grin

I think I shall do a bit of house cleaning today....  Sure needs it!  The layout is calling me too.  Catch you all a bit later!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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    June 2006
  • From: Maryville IL
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Posted by cudaken on Friday, March 15, 2013 10:16 AM

 Jeffery, I am 99.99% sure it has a hot frame. The trucks have the L shape tap that has the + red wire ran to it. Negative wire is solder to the engine weight it self from the looks of it.

 After looking at just now I am thinking the trucks are not making good contact with the frame. So tonight I am going to spray down the frame and trucks with CRC and lube the trucks.

 Once this problem is problem is solved it will be a great engine.

Off to W@@K.

  Ken

 

I hate Rust

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