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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:03 AM

Extra strong coffee in a UNION PACIFIC mug, please.

***Sue, would enjoy seeing progression pics of the Laramie, Wyoming backdrop project if there is any chance you can post some when the time comes. I love Wyoming for its scenery. Haven't been back there in too many years.

***Barry, sounds like it may be time to send out multiple little maintenance crews.

***Garry, nice looking scene, especially with the removable side. Neat detail stuff in there.

***Ray, good job tracking down the problem!Whistling

***Ulrich, looks like a nice layout plan to me. What more would your friend want?

Very sad to hear of the China based MRRing supplier closing. Hmmm, perhaps I should not be selling off stuff right now!?!Hmm

Will be in a corner booth awhile. Cowboy Rob

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Posted by TMarsh on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:19 AM

Good Morning!! Coffee and a breakfast burrito please. Thanks.

A 30 percent chance of snow, mainly before noon. Partly sunny, with a high near 27.

Ray- great job on the interior, but how you gonna get it inside? Through the window?Laugh

Jeffrey- Your Grandfathers right. I always said it’s tough to kill a 318. I had one in my old ‘79 Power Wagon. What it may have lacked in brute power, it more than made up for in determination and stamina.

Well. Friday the Thirteenth lived up to it’s rep for me and I don’t believe in superstition. I won’t go into details because it‘s very long and over years. Well…, long story. But it arose again yesterday and it culminated in me telling Brenda I’ve had it and I’m ready to walk away. Again. This happened about 5 years ago too, but this time she got the message that I really, really mean it instead of just really mean it. Last time things changed for a couple months or so, then gradually went back to the way they were. I guess she thought the coffee made and breakfast, supper on the table, the house all cleaned up and the unusual and uncomfortable doting was the solution to the problem and that a couple months of that was good enough. Besides the issue has nothing to do with "domestic chores" that some see as a womans duty around the house. Oh well, I probably won’t. I do love her terribly. We’ll see if it lasts this time. 3rd times a charm though. Last night I came home to the kitchen all cleaned up and this morning I awoke to her saying my coffee is sitting in my office waiting. Déjà vu? Deja vu

Floor Wars Williamsville: Phase….I lost track. Needless to say the events of yesterday didn’t allow for anything to be done as the phone call happened just after I signed off.

Ya’ll have a Great Day!!! Today looks to be better for me too.

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:34 AM

 Morning Fellow Dinners!

 Flo, Mug of Coffee Please.

 Driving Miss Daisey Well, looks like today I will be playing chauffeur for the wife. She will not drive if she see's any snow on the ground. So that means I will be spending my day off taking her places I don't want to go.

 Still trying to wake up. Coffee I will drop by later when I am a little awake.

                  Ken 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:15 AM

Cederstrand

***Ulrich, looks like a nice layout plan to me. What more would your friend want?

Poor Pascal is currently stuck in a "I want all, but I don´t know what that shall be" - routine. I keep telling him he shoud go for a layout that he likes, and not for one which occupies all the space he has for it. His layout will be in a basement of about 15´ by 15´ and he could dedicate 10 by 15 of that for his layout.

I made 4 different layout plans for him now, which he all likes, but .... Whistling It is up to him to decide now. I wouldn´t be doing it, if I did not enjoy making the plans, but it is about time he makes up his mind Whistling

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:43 AM

I got the decals applied to the CSX GP9. It looks good to me but I might not be able to enjoy it for long. I may get scalped, hung, shot, drawn and quartered and burned at the stake by a rampaging mob of incensed CSX fans.



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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:05 AM

Chips with bean dip, please.

***Ulrich, seems like you've done your part. It's time for him to choose and get on with the "building it" phase.

***Jeffrey, doesn't bother me any. It's not like you ruined a beautiful Union Pacific loco. Heck, the colors are still nice!Laugh

Been cleaning out a couple horse stalls today. Taking a needed break now. Cowboy Rob

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Posted by saronaterry on Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:38 AM

Hi, all!

Heatwave up here,13f but a little windy. Sunday's high 36f.

Found out last night the young lady who leads our church chior lost control of her car during the snowstorm on Thursday. Rolled it a number of times and her 3 year old son was killed. Very sad. It'll be a tough morning at service tommorrow. They were coming home from a Church function,too.Less than 4 miles from home.

After a couple days off because of cold weather I 've been putting together an operation plan for the Spooner Subdivision. Since I'm pretty much a lone wolfer, I'm using a train sequence type system. A while back I had a chance to chat with 7 retired C&NW guys, two of which are close friends. They gave me a wealth of info on train #'s ,what they did, where they went, schedules, etc. The upshot is I have 22 numbered trains that actually exsisted! I came up with a sort of train sequence based on their info and have 30 what I call "events" that I can run thru before repeating, although I "work Spooner Yard" 3 times due to the volume of traffic moving through there. I made a poster board chart to help me keep track of where I am and can start up a new "day" anytime I want. Just move the thumbtack to the next event and I'm off! I started to work out the bugs Friday and this a.m. It's a LOT of fun!!

Hope today's a good one for everybody!

Garry, I like the mill.Velcro is a neat idea!

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:01 PM

Cederstrand

***Jeffrey, doesn't bother me any. It's not like you ruined a beautiful Union Pacific loco. Heck, the colors are still nice!Laugh

You mean like this one?Confused

 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:12 PM

jeffrey-wimberly

 Cederstrand:

***Jeffrey, doesn't bother me any. It's not like you ruined a beautiful Union Pacific loco. Heck, the colors are still nice!Laugh

 

You mean like this one?Confused

http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv186/Running-Bear/DSCN1076.jpg

 

***Jeffrey, yea, like that one!Grumpy

***Terry, tragic for that young lady. That is going to be extremely rough for her to deal with.

About time I head back down to the barn and finish the cleaning. Then I plan on bringing in MsBeDowntown, as she came up lame out in the pasture yesterday. Didn't need the extra workload, but it needs to be done.

Cowboy Rob

 

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:28 PM

Afternoon folks!

Chloe, I'll have the Turkey Club Sandwich and a cup of hot cocoa please.

Spent all morning helping with the MLK Art and Poetry contest.  There were some fantastic entries this year from the High School.  Many were from the after school program run by Hobary and William Smith Colleges here in town.  Went very smoothly and all the ones that aren't winners of some kind are in the back of my car all sorted by school, grade level, and teacher.  The wife of the College President was one of the judges and stayed to help sort everything out, asked, "You used to do all this yourself!?"  I replied that I did, but you didn't want to be around me during those 2 or 3 weeks it took me to do at home!  I spent most of the time staying out of peoples way and taking photos for use later in the year of our activities.

Todd, nope!  Not through a window, the bottom of the building is open and the building is not permanently glued in place (in fact I don't usually glue the buildings down, I figure gravity will take care of THAT).  I'm hoping all the measurements I took and used will allow the floor to be put in place without having to do any alterations.....  I forget who mentioned a removable side, but it ain't gonna happen...  Building is already glued together, and I'm not going to take it apart!

Company should be arriving soon, so I'll catch you all later.

73

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:24 PM

Coffee refill, please.

Does anyone in here have (or had) an HO scale Mantua Goat Switcher? How many logging cars (somewhat weighty skeleton cars w/ logs) would you expect it to pull on a flat layout?

Got MsBeDowntown (palomino horse) up in the barn. Must have taken 20+ minutes to walk her in from the pasture. Now she can relax and hopefully recover with good feed and much rest.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:44 PM

Good Aternoon

Had a full day planned at work to do things but it came apart as our computer system, at work mind, crashed and left us with nothing...Grumpy..so I be doing some of my w**k at home now....Whistling

Jeff:  I've been doing the used market for a long time now myself. In fact, my parents raised the 3 of us well...we know deals when we see them...Big SmileStick out tongue..the b/w photo is excellent!!

Rob:  mmmmm...I'm looking for a couple of maintenence crews like that...MischiefWhistling.

Well, it got all sunny out here so I befigres that I might partake of a coffee and sit by the fireplace in back....

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:13 PM

Got two more locos today. Two F3B dummies. One is a cast metal Varney unit, the other is a plastic lookalike with a late 50's, early 60's Athearn/Cox/Lionel frame. If I can figure a way to get that cast metal body on an Athearn power frame, traction city!



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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:01 PM

Gooooooooooooooood afternoon/evening, 

Well (frozen, finally), I've been hitting the take-out window lately so only loosely following the goings-on around here. Hope all are well, or as well as can be with hopes for improvements.

JEFF: Sorry to hear you had to leave the Fire Dept. A tip of the helmet to you for your years of service. Look at the bright side: no more oh-dark-thirty  page-outs! I just hope the Dept. does something to give you a proper "thank-you" for the time you spent, the effort you gave and the difference you made.  As for THAT CSX geep...I like it! What you did isn't too far different from what the Iowa Interstate (IAIS) did to an all-gray geep-something some years back. They patched-over the "C" and the "X" and put up same-sized "IAI" for a quite large IAIS on the side. Quite the departure from their usual black with yellow band trimmed with red stripes look.

TERRY in WISCONSIN: You lucky dog you, having retired CNW brains to pick! I'm trying to design/build/develop a layout loosely based on the CNW in Cedar Rapids. I had a bunch of switch lists until a very young Rerun decided to shred them one fine day. So, most of my "knowledge" of the North Yard operations is from photos I shot then ('87-'93) what I think I remember, and what I thought they were doing. Obviously, THAT leaves a lot of room for mistaken impressions!  I like your idea of mapping-out the operations and "events," with the ability to "end a day" or start one whenever, just picking up where you left off. THAT is exactly what I'm trying to figure out.  You've got through trains and w**king Spooner Yard. I'll have switch jobs w**king Quaker Oats, transfers to and from Beverly Yard, transfers to and from the Chicago Central, the CRANDIC moving through to the CC... At least, THATs the goal! 

I might just make a little oval of track on the floor and watch a CNW GP15 go around, and around, and around, and around, and around...

Best wishes to all in need, and THAT includes skunks and horses.

Chris

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Posted by saronaterry on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:04 PM

Well, I think I really screwed something up on my Digitrax Se. I went to dispatch unit #53, tried to aquire unit #67, nothing. Go back to #53 and ALL my engines respond???? Tried turning off power and back on, tried  reading the  manual, tried the same steps that started the whole thing, NOTHING! All units respond to address #53.

What the heck did I do??

 

HELP!

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Posted by Curt Webb on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:23 PM

Terry- It sounds like you used your layout as the programming track and when you did the new loco address every loco was changed. That has  happened to a lot of people. I program at my club for that reason and I like to keep several loco's on the layout all the time. If you are going to program at home I would recommend a separate track from the layout or a totally isolated one to do programming. SmileSmile it's all part of MRR'ing.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:32 PM

Hello everybody. I'm glad there are several of you here.

Thanks for the remarks about my velcro idea in my steel mill electric furnace.

Curt .... You asked about layout size. Our home is on a hillside, and the lower level would be called a "walk out basement" in northern locations. The uphill side has a foundation wall. The layout follows the foundation wall. The layout room is 64' long. The width varies from about 10' to about 15'. It is enough to keep me busy with model railroading. I am still not done with the original plan. We move in the hous in August 2001.

Chris ... Speaking of retired RR employees, my friend living near here was an IC (CC and CN) locomotive engineer who worked in Iowa. His layout includes locomotives he operated in Iowa. He goes back to Iowa oocasionally to see family......  I was with CN-GTW in Michigan.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:37 PM

Saronaterry: Sounds to me like you programmed a loco on the main with other locos on the tracks. Boom! They all got changed to the new address! If you have to program on the main set up a length of track separate from the layout. Have your track wires from Digitrax unit go to a DPDT switch and connect them to the center terminals. Connect the layout track wires to the left terminals (left of the center) and the wires from the track length to the right terminals (right of the center). When the switch is over one way the power is going to the layout. When it's over to the other way the power is going to the length of track. Only one will have power at a time. Or you could make sure to take all the other locos off the layout first. Or you can isolate a dead end spur on the layout and hook it up with the DPDT as described above.

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Posted by GMTRacing on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:43 PM

Good Evening All,

    Long day at the shop doing odds and sods mostly to the street car fleet. Spent last evening doing the drops for the electric buss for the track. Tedious drilling and fishing wire through the foam and out the bottom. I attach the wire to the soldered track joiners as once it's all done I have power to both diverging sets of rails at the turnouts. I will have (so far) one reversing section which I'll hook up with the ARX from the old layout . Time to scoot - I'll try to check in tomorow.   CUL, J.R.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:53 PM

"Speaking of retired RR employees, my friend living near here was an IC (CC and CN) locomotive engineer who worked in Iowa. His layout includes locomotives he operated in Iowa."

Hiya GARRY, I'll bet THAT guy can tell some tales about the Paducah geeps they ran. The CC looked pretty ratty most of the time. I loved watching their daily Cedar Rapids to Manchester turn leave town though: multiple geep-somethings seemingly at full-power, black smoke blasting out of the stacks, and a wonderfully deplorable string of empty ex-IC/ICG grain hoppers, ADM traffic, paper products boxcars and a caboose. I think it was the summer of '88 when I journeyed to Waterloo in the hopes of hiring-on as a brakeman. Obviously, they didn't take advantage of the wonderful opportunity I was offering them!

THAT's another RR (my "second RR" if you will) where I mostly have memory and photos to w**k from. The CC will pretty much be limited to a greatly condensed portion of the "A" yard (ex-IC). The CNW will do transfer runs, as will the CRANDIC. IF I remember right, it shifted: CNW delivered to CC for so many weeks, months...something like THAT; then the CC delivered to the CNW for an equal period of time. No idea why they did THAT. I toyed with the idea of doing the CC operations: two yards (IC and MILW), runs to National Oats (home of "3-Minute Oats"); or their "Louisa branch," the ex-MILW mainline across Iowa from the CC line to Marion. 

 

Maybe I'll just make a loop of track and watch the locomotive go around...and around...and around...

Chris

 

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Posted by Cederstrand on Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:56 PM

Grilled Chicken and while waiting, one last coffee for the day, please.

***Terry, I am ignorant of DCC stuff, but believe others here have nailed what happened. Have fun re-programming everything.

***Chris, although MsBeDownTown wouldn't understand your well wishes if I told her, I certainly do. Thanks! One more thing: that pic of the Creamsicle loco, I wanted a model one of those so bad as a kid and ended up with a GM blue & white instead, which I learned to enjoy.Laugh

So, nobody here has (or once had) a Mantua Goat Switcher?

All the farm chores are done, except after dak feeding of the barn cats. Time to relax.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:09 PM

The LION has some new photos.

How do thses look?

 

Meanwhile, I hear our kitchen is serving leftovers, so I think I'll stay here for some nice rare Wildebeest!

ROAR

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:13 PM

Brrrrrrr, cool out today

Temp right now is 11f going down to -2f with windchill tonight. Spent the afternoon doing some tree planting on the layout and while its freezing cold outside its always summer on the layout. I wired up my old MRC synchro sound box and while its not cutting edge sound it does the trick for me.

I asked a question the in the part of the forums here asking about florescent lights. I use a couple of "natural sunlight" I think there called T8 bulbs and Im trying to find some that give off a cooler blueish color does anybody know if they make something like that?

Well going to go turn the furnace up and go back to doing a little layout work while I listen to the hockey game. Still thinking about going to a local train show tomorrow, Its usually jam packed and really hasnt been that great the last couple years so will have to see how I feel in the morning.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:19 PM

T8 has to do with the shape of the bulb. T= Tubular; 8 = 8/16th of an inch.
a P32 would be a Pear shaped bulb 32/8ths of an inch or 4" in diameter.

To get a bluer color you need to find a bulb with a higher K (Kelven) number. You probably want something in the 5000 - 7000 range. More numbers, more bluer.

ROAR

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:20 PM

JeremyB

I asked a question the in the part of the forums here asking about florescent lights. I use a couple of "natural sunlight" I think there called T8 bulbs and Im trying to find some that give off a cooler blueish color does anybody know if they make something like that?

Look for a bulb marked 'Daylight'. I use 'Bright Effects Daylight' but those are CFL's.

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:36 PM

Cheers for the info guys. I kind of worded it wrong I knew that I use T8 bulbs what I meant to say was I didnt know exactly what "color" bulb I was using,lol

I will have a look at that Broadway thanks for clearing that up Yes

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:38 PM

BroadwayLion

The LION has some new photos.

How do thses look?

http://broadwaylion.com/LION/mr120114c.jpg

http://broadwaylion.com/LION/mr120114j.jpg

 

Meanwhile, I hear our kitchen is serving leftovers, so I think I'll stay here for some nice rare Wildebeest!

ROAR

 

Good looking pix here...working out rather nicelyBig Smile

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Posted by JeremyB on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:44 PM

Yeah those are cool looking shots you got, Is that interior lighting in those cars?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:51 PM

Yes, interior lights.

LION has been working on perfecting as light system that will keep the lights on while the train is stopped. Sure DCC can do that, but LIONS cannot do DCC.

Him puts a full wave rectifier in the car to assure that the correct polarity is delivered to the lighting circuit. This is followed by a power regulator to limit the circuit to 5 Volts. Next are the super caps (0.33 Farad capacitors)  and then 4 LEDs in series protected by a 510 Ω resistor.

Here there be more pictures of my trains.

 

ROAR

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Posted by Zandoz on Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:51 PM

Hello folks.   Nothing but ice water for me, please.

Upper 20s and snow flurries for us right now.  Some kind of stomach bug has me even more out of it than usual....ugggg.

Nothing much going on here.  Model railroading still on hold pending post move unpacking, though we're getting closer. 

 I made the mistake of getting on ebay earlier as a means of boredom abatement.  Of course I had to run across #2 on my bucket list car want list...at a reasonable price on a no reserve auction.  Of course my health and living arrangement (no place to put it) rule out doing anything about it.  Oh well.

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