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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Monday, August 16, 2004 4:33 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by darth9x9

I would have to say Penn Central. Here is an ugly paint scheme on a beautiful locomotive:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc900ags.jpg



No arguement there Bill! Tuscan or Brunswick green with gold stripes was much more elegant.

Man there are some bad ones out there. From boreing to garish, and just flat out ugly.

Thanks for the photo links guys, they really illustrate your points.
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Posted by darth9x9 on Monday, August 16, 2004 3:34 AM
I would have to say Penn Central. Here is an ugly paint scheme on a beautiful locomotive:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc900ags.jpg

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Posted by Allen Jenkins on Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:36 PM
Ouch! Is it a website, or a mud sling? I wish I had a walmart sack for all the aluminum cans----wait, there's one over there. Family Lines French Grey, is not Seaboard System Grey. Thank goodness, The Seaboard Air Line Railroad tried something other than nasty green, however, I so am glad no one has hated the mint green. Yet. Any SW1, with the relic EMD Series 567V6, looks good, to me. Wish I had one. The three Geeps, can't recall the road, win. And The Conrail has taken a beating, and I know the PRR fans have seen abuse. Anyone out there like anything other than black? I know a road, that painted all the weird colors over, not wishing to keep friends, and obliged to paint nw on'em...NoWhere. Put a stud on it, and call it an Iron Horse!ACJ.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

Oh, it is primer? I had seen one or two that was weathered enough to make me think it was their new paint scheme. Of course, NS's scheme isn't much of an improvement in my book.



Yes, it is primer. Some have been in primer for some time now; long enough for weathering. Makes me wonder if or when NS will ever get around to painting them.
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Posted by ckape on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:35 PM
Oh, it is primer? I had seen one or two that was weathered enough to make me think it was their new paint scheme. Of course, NS's scheme isn't much of an improvement in my book.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I was going to say BNSF "its the Great Pumkin" orange paint Scheme

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=73228


Its easy to tell you don't live by CSX and NS [;)][;)][;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Penn Central was pretty bad.Worse,was early Conrail where they just painted out the PC scheme with black paint and used a very tiny CR on the all black unit


Even though I like Conrail I hate those engines, I also don't like the UP "bandits" and the post CR patches on Conrail engines (on both CSX and NS), unlike UP not a single CR loco remained with a CR number, another "least favorite" is CSX's YN3 (AKA Dark Future) paint scheme, as for NS, I don't like the scheme much but it won't make the list for me.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:20 PM
I see those primer units all the time, unlike most railroads NS paints all of its new engines at its shops instead of London, ONT or Erie, PA, they are kind of ugly but they are a nice change from black and white locos.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.


I've never heard of this. Sounds strange. Know where to find photos of them?


Here are some photos:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=66949
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=54286

And, actually, it is bare primer.
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.


I've never heard of this. Sounds strange. Know where to find photos of them?

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Posted by ckape on Saturday, August 14, 2004 8:32 PM
To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 7:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kbfcsme

Naaaaaa,,,,
The ugliest by far is the NH "McGinnis" scheme
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh6690ava.jpg
Ewwwww[V],,,,,yuck[:0],,,,,,,,pew[*^_^*]!!!!!!!!!!



Actually I think the McGinnis scheme is one the most handsome.[^] Have you seen one in real life? I guess its one of the schemes were you have to see it to enjoy it.

I really can't say I 'hate' any paint scheme but I never really liked the BNSF Heritage I scheme. Heritage II, though, is much better in my opinion.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:47 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'm no SP expert, but I think this scheme was for the joint ROCK ISLAND/SP train the SP took over between Tucumcari NM. & Los Angeles.

Maybe some SP type can provide the name which is escaping me. Could it have been the 'Sunset Limited'?


Just wandering around looking on the forums at stuff I don't normally read.......

That's the SP unit paint job for the stillborn RI-SP Golden Rocket, that got rolled over into Golden State service. And don't be too quick to judge. It matched the cars, which were silver/SS (depending on mfr) below the windows and Chinese red above. Many think it was quite a nice paint job. Check out this photo of the carbon steel trainset at Tucumcari in 1951:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp-gldsta-amf.jpg

The SS looked very nice indeed with the Chinese red on top and the fluted sides below.

If there was a variation of this scheme that actually looked bad, envision this bright Chinese red/silver consist with a couple of red/maroon/black/silver Rocket units up front. Now that combination really did clash.[xx(]

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Posted by Don Gibson on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'm no SP expert, but I think this scheme was for the joint ROCK ISLAND/SP train the SP took over between Tucumcari NM. & Los Angeles.

Maybe some SP type can provide the name which is escaping me. Could it have been the 'Sunset Limited'?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:03 PM
Naaaaaa,,,,
The ugliest by far is the NH "McGinnis" scheme
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh6690ava.jpg
Ewwwww[V],,,,,yuck[:0],,,,,,,,pew[*^_^*]!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by AggroJones on Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:11 PM
My bad. I mean this scheme. Forgive me, my mind isn't what it used to be. [:(] [:(] [:(]


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Posted by Don Gibson on Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

At the top of the horrible paint scheme list is Southern Pacific's Lark as on their E7s. ...While the Black Widow is probably the most hansome configuration ever.


A.J: educate me.

The 'Lark" scheme was (Pullman's) 2 tone grey, as the 'Lark' was all Pullman. Same colors used for NYC and UP. Right? "Ugly"?

To the best of my knowlege, SP's overnight 'Lark' was pulled by 'Daylight painted GS-2's and 4's, which was duplicated on their E unit's and PA's. Earlier versions were all olive drab Heavyweights with steam. Some of SP's steam had Silver smokebox doors.

The 'Lark' was an nightime afterthought from the success of SP's 'Daylight' which metamorphed into an 'Owl', 'Noon' and 'San Juaquin Daylight's, most of which were pulled by 'Daylight' painted shrouded steam.

The. 'Black Widow' scheme was all black except for the aforementioned 'Daylight' (Indian Red, yellow Orange, and Silver) colors restricted to just a a nose shield.

The SP 'Bloody nose' and grey WAS ugly, rarely washed, and followed the relatively gorgeous 'Balck Widow' which was to some - only a shadow of it's former self.
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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:38 AM
The ugylest in IMHO has gotta be:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-y/ykr1752m.jpg

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Posted by AggroJones on Friday, August 13, 2004 8:25 PM
At the top of the horrible paint scheme list is Southern Pacific's Lark as on their E7s. Thats really not kwel. While the Black Widow is probably the most hansome configuration ever.
The ugliest and tightest from the same railroad!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 4:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sparkingbolt

Yes, this subject has been posted before. It amazes me how some of us can like or dislike something so strongly, and others will take an opposite stand.

It amazes me also. Consider the next two sentences Dan writes:

QUOTE:
Me, I could never take the white and red SOO deisels seriously. Even Kodachrome is better in my eyes.

I like the SOO white and red diesels. Simple yet elegant.

However, I also like the New Haven McGinty scheme, so there are people who tell me that my taste is all in my mouth.

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Posted by cbq9911a on Friday, August 13, 2004 4:08 PM
The original Chicago RTA paint schemes. The locomotives (F40PHs) were blue with a red and brown "up and over" stripe. The painted cars were off-white with orange and brown stripes.

Fortunately, Metra has improved matters. All the cars are now stainless steel and the locomotives have been repainted. The painted cars are being retired.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Friday, August 13, 2004 3:51 PM
Penn Central was pretty bad.Worse,was early Conrail where they just painted out the PC scheme with black paint and used a very tiny CR on the all black unit[:(!].Also Florida Fun Train was so garish one needed sunglasses to look at it.Seattle's Sounder scheme is pretty horrible.UP Armour Yellow, when painted over an SP,SSW,D&RGW,C&NW,MKT,WP,or MP unit[:(!].
I get an almost sadistic pleasure out of seeing dirty,grimey,Up units.makes them look like real locomotives[}:)]!
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Posted by Don Gibson on Friday, August 13, 2004 2:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wjc09a

BNSF Merger is my vote,




YOUR PICTURE is a proposed BNSF merger scheme that should have been. A 'War Bonnet version of the BN 'Executive' dark green and cream with red striping. To my eye, Superior, and on EBay the 'Executive paint job is bringing higher prices than 'Pumplin' I or II..

I guess some BN exec's. preferred to bring back the glory days of the GN Empire Builder (they had sold the name to AMTRAK), and since BN (stockwise) was the.stronger of the two finacially, they prevailed.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 13, 2004 1:56 PM
BNSF Merger is my vote,








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Posted by Don Gibson on Friday, August 13, 2004 1:29 PM
I am not a fan of SP-SF Merger 'Kodachromes' or BNSF 'Pumpkin', but I think they were outdone in 'ugly' by:

SP's grey dirt and 'bloody nose'
BN's orig. Black & Gangreen.
Milwaukee's Orange and Moroon
and WP's Dark green and Orange certainly lacked 'a peel.'

(At least the Kodachromes can grow on one)
As the cow said when licking the Elephant's behind, "It's all a matter of taste".
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, August 13, 2004 1:25 PM
Thanks for refreshing my memory Lupo. It wasn't pink it's

LILAC!!!

Unfortunately Lionel tried marketing toy trains to girls this way back in the 50's. It was a big flop, which makes examples of them very rare and collectable these days.[swg]
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Posted by lupo on Friday, August 13, 2004 1:06 PM
Here it is: if you think some american roads have "strange" [xx(] schemes, take a look at this:



this is not the wrath of Martha Steward, this diesel was delivered to the dutch national railroad the NS in this scheme in 1957 it is build by Alhstom and has 875 HP and is still operational today

[}:)] if you want to attract more women ( model ) railroaders, this is the way go ![:D][:D]
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Posted by lupo on Friday, August 13, 2004 12:59 PM
Hi Elliot!
what happened to the pink loco?
AAMOF I was looking for it to share this awesome paint scheme with the gathered masses on this forum so It will come up in a minute!
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, August 13, 2004 12:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by lupo

TRI RAIL in florida! green blue orange and some more colors they could find in the paintshop



Jetrock,
[:-^][:-^][:-^]

look at that fabulous colorscheme the car behind the green and orange switcher has !! the beast and the beauty !

[(-D][(-D][(-D]


Hey Lupo, what happened to the pink one from Dutch Rail?[:0][:p][;)]

Between this topic and the original, I see a pattern developing. We seem to be getting some good candidates for a poll.

Keep those ideas coming guys!!!!!
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, August 13, 2004 12:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by pacificnorthern

How about the BNSF's Tan and dark Green,


That was my vote in the original topic. I think BNSF called it "EXECUTIVE" I call it "Martha Stewart".[xx(][;)]



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