What was the UGLIEST paint scheme 2

[Anonymous]

I think this topic was done a while ago, but we've had a lot more members come in since then, so let's start it again.[:D]

I don't care for the old Family Lines/Seaboard System gray with yellow and red stripes, also the ACL purple and silver wasn't that great. And KCS's old road switcher scheme of white with sometimes, a black roof is terrible looking when it's been used a while.[;)]

[ben10ben]

The proposed SP-SF merger Kodachrome paint scheme, the only scheme I've ever seen that's worthy of vandalism.

[CP5415]

Penn-Central is pretty bad!

Gordon

[Anonymous]

I agree that ACL is pretty bad, Ben do you have a pic of the SF-SP paint? Id like to see that

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JPM335

I agree that ACL is pretty bad, Ben do you have a pic of the SF-SP paint? Id like to see that

I think Ben is talking about the first link.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=32671

Though this one may be worse.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=418

[ben10ben]

That's pretty much it. Thanks, Elliot. The one that I was thinking of had the "SP" placed farther forward, right at the start of the red portion, but other than that, it's identical.

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ben10ben

That's pretty much it. Thanks, Elliot. The one that I was thinking of had the "SP" placed farther forward, right at the start of the red portion, but other than that, it's identical.

You're welcome Ben. They may have tried putting that big SP in a few places. Perhaps they dropped it when McDonalds protested.[:p][;)]

As I was looking for that I was thinking of Lionel's SP Limited set from 1979. Are you familiar with the set with the ugly U boats. I think they were trying to do the scheme in the second link, and completely missed the colors. They ended up yellow with orange.

Even the pretty Daylight scheme looks bad on diesels. When I was in looking for that I saw a photo of a couple of helpers painted up to work with 4449. Nahhhhh.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=2718

For those who missed the original topic, or anyone who needs to take a trip down memory lane, here it is.

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12147

[ben10ben]

U boats are ugly no matter what paint scheme is on them :), and Lionel's shortening of them on the model you speak of sure didn't help any. I've got a Santa Fe blue and yellow dummy of the same vintage(powered is more modern) currently receiving a command control upgrade for one of the members of the OGR forum. Every time I look at it, I can't help but wonder how Lionel made an already ugly engine look even worse.

I've never seen the set of which you speak, however it sounds awful, especially given the quality of MPC decorating. I tried a quick Ebay search, but didn't find one. I'll keep looking.

[Big_Boy_4005]

Yeah Ben that is a tough one to find because it was from one of the high buck sets of it's day. It was a nice set too, because of the cars that came with it. That was the set with the first repro of the Ft Knox gold bullion car. I think production was under 10,000. Of course this is more of a topic for CTT. Oops, sorry gang I digress.[:I][;)]

I'll have to take a picture of mine and show it to you. It's so ugly it'll fit right in here even if it has no prototype.[:p][:0]

[DSchmitt]

SPSF merger paint scheme locomotives

http://atsf.railfan.net/sfkodcrm/

On the Southern Pacific locals the SP was positioned to allow adding SF after merger approval. On the Santa Fe the SF was positioned so that the SP could be added.

It is a beautiful paint scheme which combines the Southern Pacific Daylight colors with the historic Santa Fe image. Definately better than any of the BNSF schemes.

I do agree with Big_Boy_4005 that the other SP Daylight scheme is bad. It looks even worse in black and white: photo:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp7032ags.jpg

The Daylight colors can look great on a Diesel

http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/pa_photos/6038_sp-pa2-yardclerk.jpg
http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/e-unit_photos/6000_sp-e7-don_jewell.jpg

[NHRRJET]

I would say PC ranks as the worst! NS is no "Blockbuster" either.

[Anonymous]

I think CSX's newest scheme is pretty ugly on widecabs. I like it on standard cab engines when it is clean though.




-John Zuna

[Anonymous]

FWIW: I'm going to quote the good 'ol espee.railfan.net for this information:

QUOTE: In 1977, SP sold 4 written off U25B's to Morrison Knudsen, for re-engining with Swiss built Sulzer 3000hp (derated to 2800 hp) V-12's. Not much was reused, only the trucks, traction motors, frame, main generator, cab and nose. The long hood was rebuilt 10 inches higher, and 4 inches wider to take the Sulzer engine, looking like a GP30 over the cab roof area.

When released from MK, these units had a variation on the Daylight paint. The color scheme was an experimental variation designed by Chester Mack in 1978. Nicknamed 'Popsicles' - Microscale has a decal sheet - 60-186 or 87-186 for the 'Popsicle' TE 70-4S paint scheme.

Had these units been successful, Espee had in mind rebuilding about 50 written off U25B's, as it turned out, they were not totally successful, and were set aside as soon as the economy got tough, in the early 1980's.

I have to say these units are pretty ugly but what tops my list is UP Harbor Mist Grey and Armour Yellow [xx(] Of course my favorite scheme is Scarlet and Grime...err Grey and a few Shouldnt Paint So Fast units are welcome aditions[:)]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt

SPSF merger paint scheme locomotives

http://atsf.railfan.net/sfkodcrm/

On the Southern Pacific locals the SP was positioned to allow adding SF after merger approval. On the Santa Fe the SF was positioned so that the SP could be added.

It is a beautiful paint scheme which combines the Southern Pacific Daylight colors with the historic Santa Fe image. Definately better than any of the BNSF schemes.

I do agree with Big_Boy_4005 that the other SP Daylight scheme is bad. It looks even worse in black and white: photo:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp7032ags.jpg

The Daylight colors can look great on a Diesel

http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/pa_photos/6038_sp-pa2-yardclerk.jpg
http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/e-unit_photos/6000_sp-e7-don_jewell.jpg

As threatened, here it is. Lionel's version of ugly.



What they must have done is confuse Kodachrome with Daylight. I always remembered the red as being more of an orange, but the yellow was always yellow. I wish we could see the actual color of the loco in that black and white.

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp7032ags.jpg

Oops, no need to wish, the one I found is sister loco 7031, in living albeit ugly color. It isn't really the colors that are so bad, it's the design.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=418

You are right, the Alco P's and the EMD E's look good in Daylight, but not SD's.

[Jetrock]

In the world of ugly Western schemes, few come close to Western Pacific's "New Era" green-and-orange. While I like the WP and love the SN, I don't know why they gave up the magnificent Zephyr scheme:


for this!

[lupo]

TRI RAIL in florida! green blue orange and some more colors they could find in the paintshop



Jetrock,
[:-^][:-^][:-^]

look at that fabulous colorscheme the car behind the green and orange switcher has !! the beast and the beauty !

[(-D][(-D][(-D]

[sparkingbolt]

Yes, this subject has been posted before. It amazes me how some of us can like or dislike something so strongly, and others will take an opposite stand. Everyone sez how bad SP Kodachrome is, but DSchmidt sez it's a beautiful paint scheme.

Me, I could never take the white and red SOO deisels seriously. Even Kodachrome is better in my eyes. I really like SP gray-n-scarlet, with the Roman Gothic letters. I've heard others rail against it.

But then again, I like BNSF's new scheme, and UP's gray-n-yellow. Maybe cuz I see them regularly here in Central Oregon. To each 'is own! Dan

[Anonymous]

No paint scheme to offer, but I still get a chuckle out of what SPSF stood for "Shouldn't have Painted So Fast".

Bob Boudreau

[Anonymous]

How about the BNSF's Tan and dark Green,

[Anonymous]

CSX's first scheme of gray with dark blue accent stripes-yuck.
CSX's second scheme of stealth gray-double yuck.
Lehigh Valley's experimental scheme of Tuscan red with big yellow bands. They only applied it to 2 units before it was dropped. Wise thinking.

[vsmith]

I was going to say BNSF "its the Great Pumkin" orange paint Scheme

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=73228

until I saw this:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=418

WOW! is that Bad! Looks like something from a third world banana hauler...

But for overall ugly you cant beat SP's good ole dirty grimy grey with bloody nose;

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=63800

[Anonymous]

Anything with Union Pacific on it. I'm tired of going to all the LHS and seeing UP items on shelves. There are other railroads out there manufacturers.

Why must every new release of rolling stock or locos have UP items in the offering?

BORING!

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dgoodlander

Anything with Union Pacific on it. I'm tired of going to all the LHS and seeing UP items on shelves. There are other railroads out there manufacturers.

Why must every new release of rolling stock or locos have UP items in the offering?

BORING!

Maybe because people BUY them?

You want BORING? how about NS Black Hearse paint scheme (not horse, Hearse) scheme, talk about boring.....all you neeed is the Addams Family at the controls.

as for Uncle Pete, personal feeling and politics aside, still has one of the best color schemes around, and considering they are the ONLY railroad more than 20 years old other that Jamtrack that havent been merger mangled with a new paint scheme every 5 years, I'd say thats pretty good!

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by pacificnorthern

How about the BNSF's Tan and dark Green,

That was my vote in the original topic. I think BNSF called it "EXECUTIVE" I call it "Martha Stewart".[xx(][;)]

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lupo

TRI RAIL in florida! green blue orange and some more colors they could find in the paintshop



Jetrock,
[:-^][:-^][:-^]

look at that fabulous colorscheme the car behind the green and orange switcher has !! the beast and the beauty !

[(-D][(-D][(-D]

Hey Lupo, what happened to the pink one from Dutch Rail?[:0][:p][;)]

Between this topic and the original, I see a pattern developing. We seem to be getting some good candidates for a poll.

Keep those ideas coming guys!!!!!

[lupo]

Hi Elliot!
what happened to the pink loco?
AAMOF I was looking for it to share this awesome paint scheme with the gathered masses on this forum so It will come up in a minute!

[lupo]

Here it is: if you think some american roads have "strange" [xx(] schemes, take a look at this:



this is not the wrath of Martha Steward, this diesel was delivered to the dutch national railroad the NS in this scheme in 1957 it is build by Alhstom and has 875 HP and is still operational today

[}:)] if you want to attract more women ( model ) railroaders, this is the way go ![:D][:D]

[Big_Boy_4005]

Thanks for refreshing my memory Lupo. It wasn't pink it's

LILAC!!!

Unfortunately Lionel tried marketing toy trains to girls this way back in the 50's. It was a big flop, which makes examples of them very rare and collectable these days.[swg]

[Don Gibson]

I am not a fan of SP-SF Merger 'Kodachromes' or BNSF 'Pumpkin', but I think they were outdone in 'ugly' by:

SP's grey dirt and 'bloody nose'
BN's orig. Black & Gangreen.
Milwaukee's Orange and Moroon
and WP's Dark green and Orange certainly lacked 'a peel.'

(At least the Kodachromes can grow on one)
As the cow said when licking the Elephant's behind, "It's all a matter of taste".

[Anonymous]

BNSF Merger is my vote,








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