What was the UGLIEST paint scheme 2

[Don Gibson]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wjc09a

BNSF Merger is my vote,

YOUR PICTURE is a proposed BNSF merger scheme that should have been. A 'War Bonnet version of the BN 'Executive' dark green and cream with red striping. To my eye, Superior, and on EBay the 'Executive paint job is bringing higher prices than 'Pumplin' I or II..

I guess some BN exec's. preferred to bring back the glory days of the GN Empire Builder (they had sold the name to AMTRAK), and since BN (stockwise) was the.stronger of the two finacially, they prevailed.

[espeefoamer]

Penn Central was pretty bad.Worse,was early Conrail where they just painted out the PC scheme with black paint and used a very tiny CR on the all black unit[:(!].Also Florida Fun Train was so garish one needed sunglasses to look at it.Seattle's Sounder scheme is pretty horrible.UP Armour Yellow, when painted over an SP,SSW,D&RGW,C&NW,MKT,WP,or MP unit[:(!].
I get an almost sadistic pleasure out of seeing dirty,grimey,Up units.makes them look like real locomotives[}:)]!

[cbq9911a]

The original Chicago RTA paint schemes. The locomotives (F40PHs) were blue with a red and brown "up and over" stripe. The painted cars were off-white with orange and brown stripes.

Fortunately, Metra has improved matters. All the cars are now stainless steel and the locomotives have been repainted. The painted cars are being retired.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by sparkingbolt

Yes, this subject has been posted before. It amazes me how some of us can like or dislike something so strongly, and others will take an opposite stand.

It amazes me also. Consider the next two sentences Dan writes:

QUOTE:
Me, I could never take the white and red SOO deisels seriously. Even Kodachrome is better in my eyes.

I like the SOO white and red diesels. Simple yet elegant.

However, I also like the New Haven McGinty scheme, so there are people who tell me that my taste is all in my mouth.

Peter

[AggroJones]

At the top of the horrible paint scheme list is Southern Pacific's Lark as on their E7s. Thats really not kwel. While the Black Widow is probably the most hansome configuration ever.
The ugliest and tightest from the same railroad!

[BRAKIE]

The ugylest in IMHO has gotta be:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/misc-y/ykr1752m.jpg

[xx(]

[Don Gibson]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

At the top of the horrible paint scheme list is Southern Pacific's Lark as on their E7s. ...While the Black Widow is probably the most hansome configuration ever.

A.J: educate me.

The 'Lark" scheme was (Pullman's) 2 tone grey, as the 'Lark' was all Pullman. Same colors used for NYC and UP. Right? "Ugly"?

To the best of my knowlege, SP's overnight 'Lark' was pulled by 'Daylight painted GS-2's and 4's, which was duplicated on their E unit's and PA's. Earlier versions were all olive drab Heavyweights with steam. Some of SP's steam had Silver smokebox doors.

The 'Lark' was an nightime afterthought from the success of SP's 'Daylight' which metamorphed into an 'Owl', 'Noon' and 'San Juaquin Daylight's, most of which were pulled by 'Daylight' painted shrouded steam.

The. 'Black Widow' scheme was all black except for the aforementioned 'Daylight' (Indian Red, yellow Orange, and Silver) colors restricted to just a a nose shield.

The SP 'Bloody nose' and grey WAS ugly, rarely washed, and followed the relatively gorgeous 'Balck Widow' which was to some - only a shadow of it's former self.

[AggroJones]

My bad. I mean this scheme. Forgive me, my mind isn't what it used to be. [:(] [:(] [:(]

[Anonymous]

Naaaaaa,,,,
The ugliest by far is the NH "McGinnis" scheme
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh6690ava.jpg
Ewwwww[V],,,,,yuck[:0],,,,,,,,pew[*^_^*]!!!!!!!!!!

[Don Gibson]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'm no SP expert, but I think this scheme was for the joint ROCK ISLAND/SP train the SP took over between Tucumcari NM. & Los Angeles.

Maybe some SP type can provide the name which is escaping me. Could it have been the 'Sunset Limited'?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Don Gibson

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

I'm no SP expert, but I think this scheme was for the joint ROCK ISLAND/SP train the SP took over between Tucumcari NM. & Los Angeles.

Maybe some SP type can provide the name which is escaping me. Could it have been the 'Sunset Limited'?

Just wandering around looking on the forums at stuff I don't normally read.......

That's the SP unit paint job for the stillborn RI-SP Golden Rocket, that got rolled over into Golden State service. And don't be too quick to judge. It matched the cars, which were silver/SS (depending on mfr) below the windows and Chinese red above. Many think it was quite a nice paint job. Check out this photo of the carbon steel trainset at Tucumcari in 1951:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp-gldsta-amf.jpg

The SS looked very nice indeed with the Chinese red on top and the fluted sides below.

If there was a variation of this scheme that actually looked bad, envision this bright Chinese red/silver consist with a couple of red/maroon/black/silver Rocket units up front. Now that combination really did clash.[xx(]

Adieu

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kbfcsme

Naaaaaa,,,,
The ugliest by far is the NH "McGinnis" scheme
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh6690ava.jpg
Ewwwww[V],,,,,yuck[:0],,,,,,,,pew[*^_^*]!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I think the McGinnis scheme is one the most handsome.[^] Have you seen one in real life? I guess its one of the schemes were you have to see it to enjoy it.

I really can't say I 'hate' any paint scheme but I never really liked the BNSF Heritage I scheme. Heritage II, though, is much better in my opinion.

[ckape]

To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.

[AggroJones]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.

I've never heard of this. Sounds strange. Know where to find photos of them?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by AggroJones

QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

To me the ugliest is the NS Gray Ghost scheme. The first time I saw it I mistook it for bare primer.

I've never heard of this. Sounds strange. Know where to find photos of them?

Here are some photos:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=66949
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=54286

And, actually, it is bare primer.

[Anonymous]

I see those primer units all the time, unlike most railroads NS paints all of its new engines at its shops instead of London, ONT or Erie, PA, they are kind of ugly but they are a nice change from black and white locos.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Penn Central was pretty bad.Worse,was early Conrail where they just painted out the PC scheme with black paint and used a very tiny CR on the all black unit

Even though I like Conrail I hate those engines, I also don't like the UP "bandits" and the post CR patches on Conrail engines (on both CSX and NS), unlike UP not a single CR loco remained with a CR number, another "least favorite" is CSX's YN3 (AKA Dark Future) paint scheme, as for NS, I don't like the scheme much but it won't make the list for me.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

I was going to say BNSF "its the Great Pumkin" orange paint Scheme

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=73228

Its easy to tell you don't live by CSX and NS [;)][;)][;)]

[ckape]

Oh, it is primer? I had seen one or two that was weathered enough to make me think it was their new paint scheme. Of course, NS's scheme isn't much of an improvement in my book.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by ckape

Oh, it is primer? I had seen one or two that was weathered enough to make me think it was their new paint scheme. Of course, NS's scheme isn't much of an improvement in my book.

Yes, it is primer. Some have been in primer for some time now; long enough for weathering. Makes me wonder if or when NS will ever get around to painting them.

[Allen Jenkins]

Ouch! Is it a website, or a mud sling? I wish I had a walmart sack for all the aluminum cans----wait, there's one over there. Family Lines French Grey, is not Seaboard System Grey. Thank goodness, The Seaboard Air Line Railroad tried something other than nasty green, however, I so am glad no one has hated the mint green. Yet. Any SW1, with the relic EMD Series 567V6, looks good, to me. Wish I had one. The three Geeps, can't recall the road, win. And The Conrail has taken a beating, and I know the PRR fans have seen abuse. Anyone out there like anything other than black? I know a road, that painted all the weird colors over, not wishing to keep friends, and obliged to paint nw on'em...NoWhere. Put a stud on it, and call it an Iron Horse!ACJ.

[darth9x9]

I would have to say Penn Central. Here is an ugly paint scheme on a beautiful locomotive:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc900ags.jpg

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by darth9x9

I would have to say Penn Central. Here is an ugly paint scheme on a beautiful locomotive:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc900ags.jpg

No arguement there Bill! Tuscan or Brunswick green with gold stripes was much more elegant.

Man there are some bad ones out there. From boreing to garish, and just flat out ugly.

Thanks for the photo links guys, they really illustrate your points.

[michealfarley]

QUOTE: Originally posted by wjc09a

BNSF Merger is my vote,








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There's a reason this locomotive was called the "Vomit Comet". Nobody liked it. It looked awful. It scared Santa Fe fans, and even us BN people went "Ah.............No."

Personally, I never liked the "Executive" scheme. Cascade Green was beautiful.

This one will really get people, but I never liked the Northern Pacific's 1953 two-tone green and white Passenger Scheme. The two greens really clash with each other. The 1946 scheme with yellow trim was so much better.

[Big_Boy_4005]

I suppose that everybody doesn't like something, but NP's two tone green was designed by Raymond Lowey, and is considered a classic. He is the man that gave us the T-1, the S-1, the GG-1, Air Force 1, and the Coke Bottle, among other things. When it comes to industrial design, I don't think there has ever been anyone better. Note the line of people waiting for his autograph.[swg]

http://members.aol.com/e44e33/Railpix/S925.htm

[d4fal]

The SP color scheme, say what you will, was designed mostly for safety. They roam an area that has too many level crossings, and they wanted the color to stand out against the background.

I wonder if it has worked.

[Anonymous]

BNSF's Ugly Pumpkin is pretty bad.
ATSF's Warbonnet is too. Never saw the attraction. Although the Silver & Blue D&H version works for me.
UP's Diesel scheme is downright nasty as well.

[twhite]

I don't know about ugliest, but even though UP's Grey and Yellow looked great on the streamliners (and their earlier yellow and brown looked even better), I never could take that color on their freight units seriously. And I lost a lot of interest in SP when they changed their Black Widow freight units to gray and scarlet, though I have to admit it looked pretty good on their Tunnel motors. Same with Rio Grande, I thought the Grande Gold and silver was spectacular on their passenger trains, but I liked it better when their freight units reverted to black and orange. As to the SP Kodachrome, it always somehow looked like a traveling forest fire when they'd use those units in the Sierras. Made me nervous.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by michealfarley

QUOTE: Originally posted by wjc09a

BNSF Merger is my vote,








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There's a reason this locomotive was called the "Vomit Comet". Nobody liked it. It looked awful. It scared Santa Fe fans, and even us BN people went "Ah.............No."

Personally, I never liked the "Executive" scheme. Cascade Green was beautiful.

This one will really get people, but I never liked the Northern Pacific's 1953 two-tone green and white Passenger Scheme. The two greens really clash with each other. The 1946 scheme with yellow trim was so much better.

I DID like the regular Exec. scheme, like what was put on the Executive F's, but NOT this variant of it. Actually I like all of the "Hill Lines" (including BN and BNSF!) schemes except for this one and a few examples of BN's Cascade Green.

In fact, I think Heritage II on a modern GE switcher looks great![:p]

[Anonymous]

Penn Central is pretty sick. Another sick one is the SP/SF Kodachrome! UGH!!!!!! And, I personally like the Vomit Comet, and the BNSF Pumpkin scheme. Although, the one with more black on it (Heritage1?) looks better.