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DCC is the greatest!!
Posted by mikesmowers on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:04 AM

 I hooked up my PSX-AR auto reverser yesterday and it is simply fantastic. I just can't get over how well it works, I do not understand how but it does. I simply wanted to brag a little on how well DCC works.      Mike

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Posted by ARTHILL on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:18 AM

Good for you Mike. That is my experience, DCC is the funnest toy in the train room. I assume that the smart people who understand all this will make it better, but DCC is what I always wished for in the early years.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:35 AM

mikesmowers

 I hooked up my PSX-AR auto reverser yesterday and it is simply fantastic. I just can't get over how well it works, I do not understand how but it does. I simply wanted to brag a little on how well DCC works.      Mike 

 

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Good for you Mike. That is my experience, DCC is the funnest toy in the train room. I assume that the smart people who understand all this will make it better, but DCC is what I always wished for in the early years. 

Hey, guys, I agree 100%, but I can't believe that both of you could spell DC wrong!  Whistling Smile,Wink, & Grin LaughLaugh

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:35 AM

No argument here.  I love DCC.

But I'm sure you will hear from some DC guys.

Different strokes for different folks.  That's why they still make both systems.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:39 AM

 It sure beats flipping toggle switches all the time.

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:49 AM

doctorwayne

Hey, guys, I agree 100%, but I can't believe that both of you could spell DC wrong!  Whistling Smile,Wink, & Grin LaughLaugh

Wayne

 LOL, Wayne that was a good one!

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:50 AM

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!  Don't tell us how great DCC is......  It is bound to start another war!

Yeah, I went with DCC after getting back in the hobby a few years ago and just love running the trains instead of flipping switches every 15 feet or so..... The Autoreverers are a fantastic little electronic dohickeys, I always would have the setting wrong for whichever end of the loop I was entering with a train and would have a short.  At the other end I was forever forgetting to change the direction of the mainline (Had to walk way over to where the main toggle foe the mainline cab A or B was) and would get a short on the other end as well.  Now I just run the train and it takes care of itself....

Oh, and all you DC guys out there that love DC, Bless you one and all.  It's your layout, and if you like it the way it is.......  Nothing at all wrong with that!

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:54 AM

jeffrey-wimberly

 It sure beats flipping toggle switches all the time.

Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

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Posted by winnetou on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:22 AM

5 years before-my dealer said to me:Cancel your H0-layout from DC to DCC-my answer was-to expensive :-((At this time I only run with DCC on my G-scale-layout)Black Eye

And a half year later I want to buy DCC-items for H0-and today-I will not miss them-for me is DCC the best way to run model railroadsCowboy

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Posted by Driline on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:36 PM

ATLANTIC CENTRAL

Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

Sheldon

 

I wondered how long it would take before you chimed in Big Smile

As for me. I LOVE my IBM select typewriter. Computers...myeaaa.....they're just a fad, just like DCC.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:25 PM

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Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

Sheldon

 

I wondered how long it would take before you chimed in Big Smile

As for me. I LOVE my IBM select typewriter. Computers...myeaaa.....they're just a fad, just like DCC.

If not for the "toggle flipping" comment, I might have left this alone completely.

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Posted by G Paine on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:43 PM

I was convinced DCC was great back around 1982 when a group I was with built and got running a CTC-16 system. The major drawback then was you usually had to buy the system as a kit, solder it together, hope nothing got fried in the process, and hope it worked. It was very basic, but you could run multiple trains on a single track without a lot of toggle/rotary switches and fancy wiring.

The thing that makes today's DCC great is the NMRA standards that make all the periphials from any manufacturer compaible with any base DCC system (almost), and the variety of decoders available from inexpensive basic ones to fancy expensive sound decoders. Cool

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Posted by UP 4-12-2 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:16 PM

But DCS is better--it's virtually idiot-proof.Smile

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Posted by el-capitan on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:32 PM

UP 4-12-2

But DCS is better--it's virtually idiot-proof.Smile

Never underestimate the ingenuity of an idiot.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:05 PM

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jeffrey-wimberly

 It sure beats flipping toggle switches all the time.

Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

Sheldon

One size NEVER fits all!

The OP is thrilled by DCC - good.  More power to him.

The DCC aficonados all feel vindicated - and good.  I'm glad that they feel good.

Cheap shots at DC control prove only that the shooter isn't familiar with the more sophisticated analog DC systems - and didn't think of One-Train Herbert and his toggle-free toy train loop.

People who are happy with their analog DC systems are glad the DCC folks are happy - as long as they don't try to become missionaries for their chosen system(s) in complete disregard of what the analogers are doing, or planning to do.

Enjoy whatever size you like - even if it's the 78-ounce steak at the Cowboy Restaurant in Amarillo (which is free if you can eat it, and $$$ if you can't finish!)

As for me, I'm a happy camper.  Sheldon knows why.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:04 PM

el-capitan

UP 4-12-2

But DCS is better--it's virtually idiot-proof.Smile

Never underestimate the ingenuity of an idiot.

There is no such thing as foolproof; fool resistant is the best you can hope for.

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Posted by Javelina on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:36 PM

Phoebe Vet

There is no such thing as foolproof; fool resistant is the best you can hope for.

We've got a saying in the machining world, "That fool could break a crowbar in a sandbox and loose one of the pieces".

 

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Posted by jecorbett on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:37 PM

Javelina

Phoebe Vet

There is no such thing as foolproof; fool resistant is the best you can hope for.

We've got a saying in the machining world, "That fool could break a crowbar in a sandbox and loose one of the pieces".

 

There's another saying. If you idiot proof something, they'll just come up with a better idiot. I'm a foot dragger when it comes to new technology. I didn't even have a cell phone until about 4 years ago. I don't have an iPod, Blackberry, 3G connection or any of the latest and greatest electronic gizmos. I did, however, make the decision to commit to DCC when I started my current layout about 6 years ago. I have never regretted that decision. Lots of new technology actually makes our lives more complicated. DCC is a technology that makes life simpler. Other than the added cost of factory installed DCC and sound, I see no downside to DCC. I can't imagin ever going back to the old way.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:36 PM

 I agree 100% but have to wonder how much cooler /better it's going to get in the future

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Posted by twhite on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:30 AM

Personally, I can't wait to see how long it takes before this thread gets really INTENSE and locked. 

For myself, I'm DC and happy (and no toggles.  What the Heck are Toggles, anyway? Confused).   But I'll tellya, if you're DCC and happy, then more power to you. 

Let me put it this way.  I'm a happy Catholic, but I see no reason to try and convert happy Protestants, as long as they don't try and convert me.   To each his own and happy with it.  Tongue

 'Nuff said.

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Posted by EMD F7A on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:50 AM
You know, there's a happy medium too :) I have a small coffee table layout in progress, and I have two full controller setups- 1 DC for older and/or decoderless runs, and 1 DCC for my prime movers and the newest stuff. With the layout being designed around simplicity and allowing guests to operate it, there's no sense in locking myself into one technology! (imagine trying to tell a newb how to switch locos and maintain speeds and blah blah....... no thank you! So yeah, you might say I stand on "both sides of the tracks" about the issue :)
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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:38 AM

twhite
For myself, I'm DC and happy (and no toggles.  What the Heck are Toggles, anyway? Confused).   But I'll tellya, if you're DCC and happy, then more power to you. 

Observation - those of us happy with DC don't use block toggles. Those using DCC keep telling us that block toggles are the problem with DC. I guess that explains it.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:04 AM

jeffrey-wimberly

 It sure beats flipping toggle switches all the time.

 

Jeff,I don't use blocks on my ISLs so no block flipping for me..If I did use blocks I would use Atlas selectors anyway and would leave my route lined..

I used DCC and found its ok but,overkill for a small 1 horse ISL.

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Posted by Silver Pilot on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:05 AM

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Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

Sheldon

You don't need toggles when you only run one train at a time.

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:46 AM

Silver Pilot

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Who flips toggles? I still use DC but don't flip any toggles.

DCC is great, it's just not a one size fits all solution to the job.

Sheldon

You don't need toggles when you only run one train at a time.

The way my control system and layout are designed, I can run 4 trains at a time on the mainline, and four more on branch lines and industrial areas, and still not flip any toggles.

Fact remains, toggle switches or rotary switches are likely the worst way to wire ANY DC layout. Yet these poor examples of clumsy DC systems are all that many have ever seen.

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Posted by DJO on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:46 AM

i didn't want nothing to do with dcc. it scared me just like computers and dc was good enuogh. one day a guy i knew showed me his ho railroad.  i saw him run engines on the same track going different ways. i had to know how he did it.  i lookd for bunches of wires but there was only a couple of them.  he said it was dcc. he gave me a little card showing how engines program and how cv works. was easy.  i didnt feel so dumb anymore and went dcc later.  i like runnin engines anywhere i want with out it messing with the other engines in the block.

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Posted by jecorbett on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:51 AM

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The way my control system and layout are designed, I can run 4 trains at a time on the mainline, and four more on branch lines and industrial areas, and still not flip any toggles.

Fact remains, toggle switches or rotary switches are likely the worst way to wire ANY DC layout. Yet these poor examples of clumsy DC systems are all that many have ever seen.

Sheldon

You've got me curious. Without toggles or slide switches like the Atlas Selector, how is it you are able to independently control so many trains. Way back in the 1960s my brother and I bought a used 4x8 HO layout that had two power packs, each controlling a different loop of track, so there was no need to for switches. Is there another way to assign a train to different throttles without the use of some type of manual switch?

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Posted by NevinW on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:51 AM
I agree I think DCC is the greatest improvement the hobby has made in 50 years. Take away my DCC system and I start modeling airplanes. - Nevin
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:52 AM

 Yup, DCC did a lot to enhance operation and to ease wiring - for me! I would not want to go without it. Finally, it is an issue of personal preference - if your happy with DC, why not!

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:20 AM

jecorbett
You've got me curious. Without toggles or slide switches like the Atlas Selector, how is it you are able to independently control so many trains. Way back in the 1960s my brother and I bought a used 4x8 HO layout that had two power packs, each controlling a different loop of track, so there was no need to for switches. Is there another way to assign a train to different throttles without the use of some type of manual switch?

Ditto. I just can't see how a train on a DC layout can negotiate a return loop without a set of toggles to change the polarity.

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