Elliott's Trackside Diner XXIII: Moving on...

[AmanaMedic]

Good Evening from icy, windy Iowa...

SAM: Best of luck to you on the exams, I've got a hunch you'll nail 'em just fine.

I just might be able to finger-out some rough, but plausibal, plausible, potentially close to right...dimensions for THAT elevator. With a maddening case of writer's block going on today...I doodled around a bit and might have an idea or two on the size. I for the life of me can't figure out WHY I didn't shoot more of it, get elevation views, etc. I think the wooden grain bins really "make" the scene...something quite different from the usual "Butler" bins of corregated tin. I think it'd be easy enough to knock together outta styrene.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

JIM: The thought (transplanting "Flush" to CNW country) has crossed my mind. One thought on THAT, was to keep Flush in Kansas...go with the shortline idea and have it using locos and cars bought from the CNW! I don't think I could bring myself to "patch" the mighty Ball and Bar however... Maybe the CNW stuff sits on display on the shelves.

***BRAINSTORM (or mental short-circuiting) ALERT***

Flush is located in Pottawattomie County, or "Pot County" as the locals refer to it... Could be the Pottawattomie County Railway Company (PCRC reporting marks). "The Flush Flyer" comes to mind for the daily Flush to Manhattan (UPRR interchange) transfer run.

Crap.... NOW I'm getting a whole new set of ideers.... I could have a Blaine and Westy (Westmoreland) to Flush run (out of staging) drop off cars for Flush and Manhattan in a small yard at Flush. Likewise, it'd pick up cars for Westy, Blaine, and points north, northeast. The Flush job ("The Flusher?") would work the Co-Op elevator in Flush and assemble "the Flush Flyer."

Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

I'm really getting ideas here...

At "Manhattan," I'd have a chunk of the UP's "Kansas Pacific" line (mainline between KC and Denver), with a small yard for interchange. The Flush Flyer would drop-off and pick-up. I could easily put the interchange out in the country, near Swamp Angel, for example. Distance would be woefully short of reality between "Flush" and the interchange...but maybe with a suitable fast clock...it wouldn't seem quite so bad.

Chloe? a bucket of coffee please 'n thankyou....also, can I please have a stack of napkins and a pencil???? I've got some cogitating to do now!!!

Chris

***EDIT***

OK, my jaw-flappin' and jibber-jabbin' just cost me the top of the page honors... so, order up gents!

[fireman216]

Ray...I will back you up on Empire Northern. Tim is a genius with DCC and he has installed several decoders for me and always has done a great job. We buy many items from him for the club at great prices. Although it is a farther drive for me than you. Coffee please...and maybe a nice slice of apple pie. Ray you should come up in February to our club show..we also have our division 10 NMRA meeting that day...you can see the layouts and bring some greenbacks for the vendors. Tim

[ns3010]

Evening all. Chloe, a cheesesteak, Wawa style, please?

Sam: It means "The Spanish exam was very easy, not hard!" And BTW I meant to put "fue," not "fuy"...
And good luck with your exams! I hear Morrisvillle Yard alone is hell... But OTOH, the Princeton Branch should be "muy facil!"

Jim: Yes, I will be fine. I asked my teacher, and she said I did pretty well (last I knew, I think I had like an 88).

Danny! We're a bunch of friendly guys here (just watch out for the pie catapult...)

Sawyer: I don't exactly wanna take Spanish 3, but my Algebra teacher (who also does all the scheduling for the classes) says I really should. So next year, I guess I'll take Sp3, all the required stuff, and Faith and Values in the Media, which should be a REALLY fun class. The teacher is the guy who was my Theology teacher last year, and I absolutely loved his class.

Catch ya guys later

[howmus]

 Hi Tim!

fireman216

Ray you should come up in February to our club show..we also have our division 10 NMRA meeting that day...you can see the layouts and bring some greenbacks for the vendors.

 

Would that be the Syracuse Model Railroad Club Open House and Train Meet on February 21?  If so I am sitting here looking ata stack of flyers I have for the event that need to go down to the LHS.   Were you at the combined Central NY and Lakeshores Division Meet a week and a half ago???

Curious minds want to know!

73

[Packers#1]

ns3010

Sawyer: I don't exactly wanna take Spanish 3, but my Algebra teacher (who also does all the scheduling for the classes) says I really should. So next year, I guess I'll take Sp3, all the required stuff, and Faith and Values in the Media, which should be a REALLY fun class. The teacher is the guy who was my Theology teacher last year, and I absolutely loved his class.

 

True. I forget whether or not I've told y'all, but the teacher for spanish3 on is HARD. which is the main reason I'm worried, lol.

[Cederstrand]

Tall glass of cool lemon & lime water, please. 

***Keith, that's a great kite story. Only airborne things I ever lost site of and  never recovered included the last of a 3 stage rocket and on another occasion a large tissue paper hot air balloon sent skyward with a full can of sterno giving it steady lift.

***Ray, sending healing thoughts your BIL's way. Yikes!

***Philip, that's great news.

Rob

[blownout cylinder]

tbdanny

Flip,

Thanks for the heads up.

**Looks out window of diner**

Is that a reefer of cream pies being spotted on the tracks outside?  And a crate labelled 'Edible Tray Express Dispatcher mk 2'?

mmmmm---good thing this corner table flips up into shield position--

Sam? Did you order that up?

[der5997]

Ulrich: Calvados...the first time I ever experienced "flash evaporation" as an internal process! I couldn't find anything convincing on Google for Cape Breton Apple Cake ...the nearest was an apple and potato concoction, nothing like the delight Petra served you!

CapeJim:

Just remind yourself - "Spring is coming, spring is coming..."

  ...and to prove the point, the Sears Spring Catalogue came today! - No kidding!

DerJohn, hope you were able to drag a bit more wood into the house today. I guess since it's sn*wing there, all you can get done is MRR'ing, eh? Hey, life is tough sometimes.

...Didn't do any wood - the wind = snow was just plain unpleasant...and we have a saying "I'm old and I don't need to be upset!"...So all I got done was indeed mrr!   The decoder test bed  is finished and operational. I found that of three decoders I'd put away as suspect some years ago, one ( a Digitrax Z123) is OK (I did a factory re-set when I was done testing it, and that took, so I'm up one spare limited function decoder. One is totally gone, ( another Z123) and the third is questionable and I'll probably scrap it.  The decoder I wanted to test in the first place?  It behaves just the same way as it did in the loco - that is to say lights only. So it goes back to the LHS, and the VIA train has to continue with its F40PH a while longer!

JR:

Ray - You could fix the problem as I did, just turn the monitor upside down   J.R.

....even that wouldn't work on the latest phones where the image stays upright as you tilt or turn the screen. Those things would get a person into serious trouble in Europe 400 years ago!

Sam:

Der- I had to have my wife help me with the French spelling, I am going to learn that gorgeous language one of these days...

....I was taught French so appallingly badly (beaten for any mistake) at school that later, in my twenties I thought I'd try Italian to see if the jinx had worn off  I did fine until the first corrections came back in the mail. SLAM! It was like a metal plate whammed down on my brain - I was back in that school - and the whole thing ended right there. 

On the latest plan, I like it. I was wondering if the CRC building has to be oriented just square, the way you have it presently. I ask because the spur that curves to it on the left looks like a sharp bend, and if CRC were to be rotated left you could bring that spur up to it through a lazy S  at a much more realistic angle.

and IDK if you guys got to preterite yet

....what's this? Bilingual time travel?

Danny:

And no, for some strange reason, Australian railways have never really interested me. 

I asked because my maternal grandfather was an engineer on the line (whose name escapes me) that runs across the Null Arbor plain before the war. I know next to nothing else about him.

Mostly short stories at the moment, but there are possible plans for a novel.

...way easier to get a short published than a novel. Once you are published it's easier (but no cakewalk) to get published again. That's how Kris started - not that here's much money to be made here for the general run of authors.

Keith: Great kite story!...didn't want to find out

PC: Great news on Mrs.PC - and it sounds as if the by-pass is doing what it should!

BridgeTom: Your rain made it to our 6 o'clock news today!

Early start tomorrow as there's snow to clear before I get off to Diabetes Clinic at 9. Last night I didn't get to bed till 1:00am, so I'll say Goodnight all, and God Bless. Prayers continuing for all in need of Healing, Comfort, Prosperity and Peace.

 

 

 

 

[tbdanny]

Der, I like the look of your decoder test bed - especially the way you've knocked it together out of spare parts.  Very resourceful.  I'm afraid I don't really know that much about the Nulabor plain line either, I must admit.  Most of the Australian stuff I know of is Queensland Rail, which is 3'6" narrow gauge - a statewide network.  I think it's the biggest narrow-gauge railway in the world.  It is a small world, though - so is your mother Australian, then?

With regards to the publishing, I'm thinking of maybe self-publishing.  I'm not looking at this as an income stream (at the moment), just as something for me to do.  Find whatever the nearest Australian equivalent to lulu.com is.  Having said that, I have got the domain name for a website registered.  These short stories aren't the first sci-fi I've written - after a couple of unsatisfactory tries when I was in high school, I decided to develop my writing by authoring fan fiction.  Now I feel like I'm ready to try again.

[Blazzin]

tbdanny

Thank you all for your warm welcome.  I think I'm going to enjoy it here.

 

  Yes.. Welcome.  Aussie's are free .. Canadians we charge here at the Diner.

[BamaCSX83]

Good late evening all, just a RBF for me.  Its currently storming outside, lots of lightning, rain, thunder, etc, but no huge wind at the moment.  Much of the same for tomorrow.  Nothing happening at the moment, waiting for Amy to call it a night before crashing myself.  Check in with all y'all then, don't have to be at w**k tomorrow till 11:30, so I'll be in in the morning.

[CNCharlie]

Blazzin

Canadians we charge here at the Diner.

Charge!!!! What the?? Well we'll just stop sending you all that nice cool air or maybe a little extra is in order but only for California.

Excuse my  belated welcome Danny from Oz. Always wanted to visit your country. My neighbour has spent quite a bit of time there working for a state, not sure which one, as he is protocol expert. He said he felt very at home even though the country is very different from Canada,  he said the people aren't.

Oh oh, past my bedtime again.

CN Charlie

[tbdanny]

Well, time for me to wander on out to that NW2 I have tied up on the tracks outside.  See you all tomorrow.

Cheers,

tbdanny

[Anonymous]

 A good morning to all of you!

Well, for TBDanny it is time to have a dinner and most of you folks over the Big Pond are heading for a good  already, if I get my timezones correctly.

Zoe, I´ll have coffee in my LKAB mug and a toasted bagel, filled with strawberry jam, please. I´ll be in the corner booth to watch that switcher outside - no, it´s not the time for a move yet.

Another day at the GULAG - how to spend 8 hours doing nothing? What a waste of precious time!

I have decided to have a break from my layout planning exercise. The more I think about it, the more I get confused. The plan I have is far from being "perfect" for me, although I quite like it. There is a fairly detailed picture of how it shall look in my head, but there are some operations issues I have not yet solved. 

Here are the facts:

It will have to be a switching layout in HO scale, max. 2 feet wide and 15 feet long. The theme is going to be ARR in the 1970´s , just to stay within my motto "Arctic Railroading". I have moved the  place from Seward to Whittier, as there had been a car float facility. The space I have does not allow to model a prototypic track plan, but that´s not a problem for me - modeler´s licence. From Whittier, I can run trains to Seward and Anchorage, allowing for a 2 train operation and local switching. I maybe able to add a cassette staging on the left side of the layout, to simulate Seward, but I do have a problem to find a solution for Anchorage. Just leaving a train on the main is not the way I want it, as I´d like to have incoming and outgoing trains, enabling me to have two people to operate this layout. The only way I see is to have a sharp turn to the right and add a fiddle yard, but this would result in an L-shaped layout, which I will have a hard time to get approval for from SWMBO. Also, the curve would be a sharp one, not more than 18" , making it difficult to run cars longer than 50´ and 6-axle Diesels. I also need to store an outgoing train, but this could be done by leaving it on the main to Seward, i.e. the left hand cassette staging lead. I might even be able to add a switch and a second track there.

One other problem is my very limited budget, putting a limit to the number of switches I can buy. An Atlas code 83 switch is about $ 20, that´s what I can spend in a month.

Sam - thanks for offering me help in my planning - maybe you can use the above as my givens and druthers to come up with THAT idea, which I just don´t have at the moment. Petra will be happy to reimburse you with a load of homemade apple strudel!

Tom - a dry "Stollen" is really awkward to eat - whoever made it probably wanted to have a low calory, low cholesterol version of it, which you just can´t have. The main ingredient of it is butter, lots of it, to give it the right taste and texture. If you economize on that - just forget the "Stollen". 

Petra and I should really move to the US or Canada and open up a German bakery - "Petra´s Pastry Parlor" - how´s that? I guess, it would be a gold mine!

So Miami´s official language is now Spanish? I thought, that it would be German now, with all those elderly German tourists spending the winter months now in Florida. With the cheap flights available now, literally thousands of retired Germans go there to hibernate.  Would not be my choice, I just like mountains, bears, and the seasons.

Rob - my  for a  speedy recovery of the missus!

 Ray - ditto for your BIL!

We should better leave the Chapel car attached to the diner!

John - internal flash evaporation?  Now that´s a very good description for having a big sip of Calvados. Strong stuff, but good!

Have a safe day!

 

[LSWrr]

Good morning all,

  derJohn; They make decoder testers, actually my Digitrax Super Chief came with one.  It’s a pig tail that plugs into the systems jack and you stick the wires from the decoder in the other end.


Ok I’m sold!  I went to a friend’s house to visit his layout and he had a Walther’s roundhouse.  Nice kit.  I currently have a 6 stall Heljan roundhouse, but you can’t open the roof.  The Walther’s is a little smaller than my heljan, but they both have the same storage space for locomotives.  I need to look at the budget and see what I can do; first I’ll have to sell the old roundhouse.



Ulrich, look for used turnouts, mine are brass, used and work fine.  Not to mention I paid $1 each for them.

Track plans are great until first contact with the bench work!

[blownout cylinder]

LSWrr

Track plans are great until first contact with the bench work!

I'm going to have to put that on my signature!! lol!

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Hello---

Nice and sunny here---an apartment building that I see sometimes is glowing a copper/gold colour from the sun hitting it, Beautiful sight when one has geese flying by....

Got a bunch of things to do today. Maybe slip by a LHS today to see what is up....

Chloe, I'll have a coffee and a toasted bagel with cream cheese please---I'll be at the RC for a bit.

[GMTRacing]

Good Morning All,

  Just a coffee to go please. Dr's appt in an hour and the usual panic in the shop.

Rob - prayers for the wife - hope the treatment works.

PC - good news the progress for the CFO is good.

Der - a 400 year old cell phone is probably what I have usually I get voice mails the day after they're sent and in a couple of cases a week later. Not much use then, eh?

Keith - charging Canadiens indeed. You're loonie enough already - you don't need more!

Catch Y'all later, J.R.

[Robby P.]

 Good morning.  Its a nice sunny day. 

 Its starting to slow down at work.  Hopefully it will pick back up in Feburary.

 Well it looks like we are already on page 40!!!  Goodness, do I see the switcher warming up?????

 Just thought I would pop in right quick.  Hope everybody has a good morning.

[jeffrey-wimberly]

 Good morning. It's 60 and partly cloudy. The high will be in the low 70's with some clouds.

Last night was dominated by a lot of rain and wind with all of west central and north west Louisiana under a severe thunderstorm watch and tornado watch. It brought back memories of my years as an amateur tornado chaser. I would track the storm(s) and report the speed and direction to 911 by radio so they would know where it was headed and issue the proper alerts. Sometimes that meant getting in front of the darned thing and several times having to almost drive through. Not something I would like to repeat which is why I don't do it anymore. I'm getting too old for those kid games. Today I'll see if I can get some more of the layout cleared off, IF something else doesn't get in the way as it has the past few days. I've also got a couple of movies recoded on the DVR that I'd like to watch. One of them is 'Support Your Local Gunfighter'. I've seen it before but it's always worth seeing again.

[TMarsh]

Good Morning. Say, did you just see an old cop car tear out of the parking lot with two people wearing black and sporting dark sunglasses? Gotta meet with the Preacher at 930 am to fill out some goofy end of the year financial statement for the Gestapo.

PC- Great news! But full after less than two medicine cups? That doesn't seem to be enough food even for a bird. Does the fullness have to do with other temporary things? Surely her appetite will increase some.

Ray- Your BIL is most definitely on the prayer list.

Lee- Never a truer statement was made about track plans!!

LOOK EVERYBODY.......I made a short post!

Welp best get moving in that direction before Flip comes in and blows his top over the Spanish Omelet I left for him. (laughing maniacly as I bolt to the door) 

Have a Great Day!!!

[howmus]

Mornin' everyone!

Chloe I'll have a big bowl of hot Cream of Wheat and some NYS Maple Syrup to go along with it.  Don't forget the cup of dark roast coffee in a FGLK mug.  I'll be in the front booth with the others watching the switcher outside.

Thank you for your prayers for my BIL folks!  Haven't heard anything yet, but he is probably in surgery right now.

DerJohn, French is just Italian with a sinus problem.............. OW!   Hey, cut it out....  Sheesh!   (I said THAT in the faculty room once many years ago in front of a Latin Teacher who was head of the Foriegn Language Dept.  Barely escaped alive!)  Is this seat taken?  No? Who's Spanish omelet is THAT?  Flip? Thought he doesn't like...... Ah, I see.

I have to finish a PowerPoint presentation for tonight and run through what I am planning for the Troop a few times.  THAT should take most of the day.

Catch you later!

73

[der5997]

Danny:

so is your mother Australian, then?

...Nope, born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire, and married my dad, from Ealing, Middlesex (now part of "Greater London" ) in OZ where he was working on a sheep station (having possibly jumped ship as a merchant seaman - but that's conjecture on my part - he never spoke of it.) Mum's family disowned her when she married, which is why I have so little info in her father. A bit worrying in a way as there is no medical history from her side of the family, and she died suddenly at 70 - which is what I am now!

On the publishing - go for it! Especially if you aren't looking for an income stream

Keith:

Yes.. Welcome.  Aussie's are free .. Canadians we charge here at the Diner.

ROTFL - just try collecting, virtually impossible I'd say!

CNCharlie:

Always wanted to visit your country.

  I see where Prince William wants to buy an Australian home. If he moved there, would that put the kybosh on the Aussie Republican movement? Maybe mummy put him up to it.

Ulrich:

Just leaving a train on the main is not the way I want it, as I´d like to have incoming and outgoing trains, enabling me to have two people to operate this layout. The only way I see is to have a sharp turn to the right and add a fiddle yard, but this would result in an L-shaped layout, which I will have a hard time to get approval for from SWMBO. Also, the curve would be a sharp one, not more than 18" , making it difficult to run cars longer than 50´ and 6-axle Diesels. I also need to store an outgoing train, but this could be done by leaving it on the main to Seward, i.e. the left hand cassette staging lead. I might even be able to add a switch and a second track there.

Every time I read your plans, ideas just keep popping into my head. I know funds are limited, but how about that dumb waiter idea for the fiddle yard, with the Anchorage part of the layout on a second shelf above the original? The "vertical transition table" could do the trick, but the length of trains would be limited.

An Atlas code 83 switch is about $ 20, that´s what I can spend in a month.

  Hand laying the turnouts would stretch those $s?

Petra and I should really move to the US or Canada and open up a German bakery - "Petra´s Pastry Parlor" - how´s that? I guess, it would be a gold mine!

A couple from Switzerland did just that in Campbell River B.C. in the 80s. Their stuff was to die for, but no-one wanted it...until they started making doughnuts! Then you couldn't get in the door for folks buying ALL their stuff. Go figure!

Lee:

derJohn; They make decoder testers, actually my Digitrax Super Chief came with one.  It's a pig tail that plugs into the systems jack and you stick the wires from the decoder in the other end.

..they do indeed, and they have a nasty habit of wanting money for them as an after-market item. Besides, I had the "fixings" to hand.

JR:

Keith - charging Canadiens indeed. You're loonie enough already - you don't need more!

LOL...but wait a bit and the Loonie will be above parity with the peachback, as will the A$, which has been stealthily edging over the $0.95US for a while now, thanks to the Chinese predilection for OZ coal among other things.

Well, this is fun, so has to stop. Real lunch in a few minutes then snow clearing and wood hauling before getting down to the museum for a meeting at 3:00; oh joy! TTFN.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cox 47]

Good morning...Its rain'in and 36 with a wind from the east..I'll have coffee and toast please...thank You...Not much happ'in round here..preasure sores keeping me in recliner alot..Did finnish up Walther's Icing Platform that my Son and I started as a Father Son build but He never had time for...I got the kit 3 or 4 years ago in a Ebay deal for kits that where hobby shop returns for missing parts..didn't have 'nuff parts to build bothe platforms but didn't have room for both anyway..

Got the ice house almost done..

You all have a good one...Jerry

[Blazzin]

  Ah you Canadians.... I worked with Canadians.  As a printer I was one of the smallest of a 100 men team. 9 crews, each with 11 men on a crew.  But these Canadians.. I joined them one time for lunch.. we were drinking beer for lunch... then it was all the time.  The these guys would get together and starting singing "Oh Canada~"  and would almost come to attention.. and sing it earnestly.  But when a 'Pot Luck' sign came.. it would always say... 'Bring a Dish' or pay ten bucks .. Canadians $15.oo.. they'd get so razzed about that.  Of course everyone was always kidding... but Canadians.. yeah.. I've worked with them~.. and drank~.  Good peeps.  I knew that would get someone's  attention.~! lol.

[Blazzin]

Cox 47

Good morning...Its rain'in and 36 with a wind from the east..I'll have coffee and toast please...thank You...Not much happ'in round here..preasure sores keeping me in recliner alot..Did finnish up Walther's Icing Platform that my Son and I started as a Father Son build but He never had time for...I got the kit 3 or 4 years ago in a Ebay deal for kits that where hobby shop returns for missing parts..didn't have 'nuff parts to build bothe platforms but didn't have room for both anyway..

Got the ice house almost done..

You all have a good one...Jerry

 

  Jerry now you've got my attention.  I have one of those..but to be quite honest... I don't know exactly the time period or if anything else should go with that ice house.  Is there suppose to be a building that goes with that?  One that stores the ice.. I'm at a loss here.. I really don't know much... lol.  I bought one... cuz it looked nice.. and I think it goes with an older layout.  Just wondering.  keith

[BamaCSX83]

Good late morning all. Zoe, a RBF and a hot ham and cheese please ma'am. Just stopping in before heading off to w**k. This morning has been productive as a tree fell in the yard sometime last night and I've spent the morning with the chainsaw and axe removing it. All that's left now is a stump and a nice, neat pile of cut timber. Not 100% sure why the tree fell, storms last night had hardly no wind with them, although with all the rain that we've had recently it would suspect that the ground was just too soft to support it, and of course the tree did develop a lean after hurricane Opal came through in the mid-to-late 90s. Well, that's about it from my neck of the woods, guess I'll see y'all after w**k.

[Anonymous]

Good Evening Folks,

I am back from my day in the GULAG, where I spend most of the time writing posts to the MR forum 

No, Zoe, nothing to eat for me this time, just a coffee and a Calvados for me, thank you! I just had supper, Petra made something out of nothing, but it was delicious!

LSWrr

  Track plans are great until first contact with the bench work!

 

Lee - wiser words have never been spoken on that issue! A plan is just a plan, as long as you don´t give it a try!

John - I have stopped thinking about my layout, if only for a little while. The best ideas I gather when I don´t think about it. Your dad´s from Ealing? Well, what a small world! When I worked in London, my little flat was in Ealing, just off Ealing Common. Every night, when walking home from the tube station, I was greeted by a little old lady, who was looking out of her 2nd floor window, with a hearty "Good Evening, Sir"  and I answered " A Good Evening to you too, Madam". It was a kind of ritual that lasted nearly a year. One fine day, when I returned from home leave, the window remained closed - forever. A few days later I went to the Ealing Anglican Church to maybe find out what had happened. I was informed that she had died, and that the memorial service would be the next day. Guess who took a leave from work to attend the service! It was an honor for me. Sadly, I was the only one attending!

Handlaying turnouts would certainly stretch the buck a little longer, but I have never done it before, and my soldering skills are, well, better not mention it. 

Jerry - that is a good looking ice platform you have built there 

Todd - just kidding us, eh? I know there is a longer post in the pipeline! 

My January copy of MR has just arrived today, so it is back to the sofa for some cheerful reading!

Have a good one!

[Cox 47]

Keith the Ice houses and icing platforms go back to the days when reefers had ice bunkers at each end..ever so many miles they had to be reiced..Most of the ice was harvested from rivers and lake and stored in ice house in saw dust..took alot of man power to harvest ice and to fill ice bunkers...Jerry

[LSWrr]

That saying is altered from the Combat Handbook so I really can’t take credit for it.“Plan alpha is good until first contact with the enemy” having a back-up plan is advisable”

 

[fireman216]

howmus

 Hi Tim!

fireman216

Ray you should come up in February to our club show..we also have our division 10 NMRA meeting that day...you can see the layouts and bring some greenbacks for the vendors.

 

Would that be the Syracuse Model Railroad Club Open House and Train Meet on February 21?  If so I am sitting here looking ata stack of flyers I have for the event that need to go down to the LHS.   Were you at the combined Central NY and Lakeshores Division Meet a week and a half ago???

Curious minds want to know!

 

No Ray unfortunately I was not there for that meet..You have to let me know if you decide to "take that short drive" and come "over" for the show and meeting. Coffee is on me of course!!..Tim

73