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Posted by Packer on Monday, January 18, 2010 10:53 PM

evening ya'll

Got the slide hammer out on part of my car and put interior back in. Still need to go back out and do some more with the slide hammer.

In MR new, it seems my latest attempt to sell my SP NW2 and UP autoracks have failed, again...

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by AmanaMedic on Monday, January 18, 2010 11:04 PM

Good evening,

JIM: Yep, Flush (originally Floresch, but the US Post Office decided THAT was too complicated, so they made it "Flush") is located in northeast Kansas, in the Flint Hills. The Kanza (sp.??) prairie is fairly close by to the west, out around Ft. Riley (again home of "The Big Red 1"). Meyer's Valley was the original name for the area, which has Rock Creek flowing through it. Westmoreland is a little ways north, St. George to the south. The UP "Kansas Pacific" line, or the Denver line, runs through St. George. I found an odd little grain elevator there in '98, and the depot was still standing. The St. George Oil Co. was based out of it for many, many years.

Speaking of odd little elevators, my favorite uncle still owns this one, it's technically in Flush, you can see it poking up out of the trees in the lower right hand corner of the "whole town" picture. It was built in anticipation of a RR coming from Westmoreland, and heading through Flush to Manhattan. The ROW was graded, but the rails never came. The RR ran from "Westy" to Blaine into the 1930s. When the steam engine was destroyed or sold or otherwise gone...they put rail wheels on a car and pulled the rail cars with it. Flooding and the Great Depression spelled doom for the line.

I don't think Eldon (uncle) uses the elevator currently...last time I was there, it had pretty much been taken over by coons, skunks, and a rattler or two! ShockDead

Welp, that's enough Kansas history for one night...G'nite

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Posted by TMarsh on Monday, January 18, 2010 11:20 PM

It's late and i just read a couple of posts or so on page 32. You silly people and your track plan changes. If you'd just got it right the first time....

Today I did make it to the trainroom and after staring for awhile I've decided to change the train route for what I think is the better. Moving the train station in Gold Creek to where it was I think will be better. This will require a relaying of track for the better. This is NOT a trackplan change. I never had a track plan. So there! 

Prayers for those in need.

Rob- Glad you're feeling better!

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Posted by Cederstrand on Monday, January 18, 2010 11:40 PM

Small bowl of plain mixed nuts, please. 

My wife was watching a very interesting trains special on RFDTV when she saw one of those Aerotrains that resembles the front of a car. Right away she said how neat one of those would be, (meaning, as a model train). I said they make them, but we would want to win a Lottery first. Yea, I've wanted one of those since I first saw them, too. Very cool!

Twas a long day of catch-up here on the ol' farm. Time to hit the hay.

Hope everyone is doing well.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:13 AM
Good morning all,

  Thanks to all who sent me suggestions and recommendations for my web site.  I got what I asked for; comments from MAC, Firefox, and MS users.  Some of the comments have been edited in the files on my computer and hope to have most of the issues resolved by Friday.


Sam, one of my links will take you to my Web shots account.  I have a 2008, 2009, and a 2010 Construction Albums showing progress pictures.


http://www.webshots.com/search?media=album&query=cyberiantiger2&queryChannel=&sortBy=&source=search_menu


Thanks but the idea of a “portable layout” wasn’t my idea.  Matter of fact NMRA web site has white papers on how it should be done.  I few pointers for you that I learned the hard way: Use a continuous support member under the layout to prevent the sections from shifting between the seasons.  Try to keep the size of your sections one size, (except the fillers).  My sections of bench work are 48”x 48” o n the corners and 36”x 48” for the straights, but I have 2 shorter sections to tie everything together.  Also the biggest factor in building your modular sections is: will they fit through the door and up the stairs?  You have to set rules for yourself early on.  One of the most important is nothing taller than 18” on the layout, unless it can be removed.  My smallest doorway on the path from the layout to the driveway is about 24”, the benches are made of 3.75” frame, ½” subfloor, and then add an 18” water tower and you have 1.75” to spare.


Remember it has to come apart and go back together.  I bought several 6” Atlas straight sections of track. Each bench started with the track indented 3” from the ends (except the yard).  The 6” Atlas sections can be sacrificed if the need arises in the move.


Joe, congratulations!

 

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
On the model front; I bought two used radio throttles, and a grab bag of rolling stock (new). A friend runs a “train store” from his basement.  He had several of the LHS in an uproar and they called and made complaints.  My friend said representatives from Walther’s arrived and inspected his basement train store and found nothing wrong.  I ballasted the west end of the yard and fine tuned the turnouts, they should work well up until I have an open house.  I installed the cinders track and conveyor and ballasted the area.  Then I had rubber ballast in the round house area.  I removed the round house and all the track, and soaked the ballast in Goo Gone.  I checked on it this morning and the ballast looks like peeling paint so it should scrap off this afternoon no problems.  I plan on using some “dirty” WS ballast for the area and install individual wood planks in front of the round house.  Due to space the coaling tower and sanding towers will remain in the same place.  I plan on adding a diesel fueling area adjacent to the round house and a traveling maintenance crane with a back shop.  Oh and I even found time to take down the Christmas lights.

 


Thoughts and prayers go out to Dean Freytag who has been placed on the binnacle list.  Recent health issues have placed him in assisted living for rest and some PT, hopefully he will return home sometime soon. 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:00 AM

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Jeff - I like that memorial/monument; did you make that, or somebody else? Looks good.

The VFW memorial was a Life-Like kit that I picked up back in the 70's. The railings around it were lost over the years. I think Bachmann carries the kit now.

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:03 AM

TMarsh
Today I did make it to the trainroom and after staring for awhile I've decided to change the train route for what I think is the better. Moving the train station in Gold Creek to where it was I think will be better. This will require a relaying of track for the better. This is NOT a trackplan change. I never had a track plan. So there! 

You forgot to put the HAAARRRRUUUUUUMMPH!! at the end of "so there!"Smile,Wink, & Grin

Actually I sorta, kinda had a definite maybe plan when I started. But it sorta became something else---kinda, like, well----different.Smile

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Good Morning

We're al up and doing stuff this morning--doing paperwork for work at home--too much freezing drizzle making for "interesting times" out there on the roads. I got up earlier this morning--turned on computer and found email from work saying do the stuff from home----so there I be---heeheeheeSmile,Wink, & Grin

Lee: Our prayer list has Dean's name on it now--Angel.

 BTW, kind of odd that LHS would be howling about friend's LHS in the basement. Then again, I remember when downtown London got some hot dog stands there--some restaurant owners took a "hairy canary" over the hot dog stands because---well--they were serious competition.Whistling

Rob: I always had a soft spot for an "aerotrain"--especially since I saw the train as a whole in a series of photographs taken by someone in our family way back when---To me I kinda like the rear as well with what looked like tailfins ---- as for buying the set-----I saw one up here at a LHS-----yikes!! Shock

I'm going to hide in the basement this afternoon --- need to stare at the Exceda Wye yard some more---Confused

Chloe, I'll just have a coffee and a toast with jam please. I'll be at the RC this morning--Smile,Wink, & Grin

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:24 AM

Good morning. It's 53 and cloudy. The high will be in the mid 60's and it will be partly partly. There's talk of thunderstorms coming in tonight.

I didn't get much of a chance to get anything done on the layout yesterday due to life getting in the way. Today is going to be pretty much the same way. I have two doctors appointments today, the first at 8:30 for a general physical and the second at 11:30 for physical therapy. Fun, fun. I do have most of the junk cleared off the layout at this point. When I get back to the point that I can get under the layout I'll be able to get to the access holes and wipe down the tracks at the back and east and west sides of the layout. It wouldn't be much of a problem if I had a 7 foot reach but unfortunately I don't. Just reaching across the extension (3.5 feet) can be somewhat of a stretch. It'll be nice to be able to get back to some scenery work.


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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:52 AM

Barry the howling is because he marks everything he can down by 20% - 25%  I ordered 2 new SDN144PS decoders from him and he only marked them up $1 from wholesale.  So I'll owe him about $39 each. W's wants $50 each.  These are going in my GE 44 ton locomotives.  Those Digitrax throttles I bought; 2 used for $150.  New they are $149 each.  I bought new in the box kits: 1 Roundhouse rotory snow plow with tender, W's 50' express reffer, Accurail C&O drop end gondola, and a NYC 55-ton hopper for $25 (total for all 4 including tax) last night.  Granted these were kits someone ordered and never picked up, but you can't beat the prices.  Sorry he dosen't mail order.  This is a good friend to keep, not to mention he is pretty cool.

 

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Posted by Robby P. on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:28 AM

 Good morning.  Its a drizzle, muggy mornin here in "southwestern" PA.

 Worked on the layout some yesterday.  Mostly focused on the middle table.  I had a old Walthers "backdrop" building, and I cut it in half to make a smaller shipping company.  Now I will have to go to the LHS and get some styrene.  It turned out pretty good, well so far.  I will probably work on the layout some more today. 

 The new computer should get here today.  That will give me something to do.  Goytta clean the computer room and get it setup.  

 Other than that, just a normal day.

 Hope everybody has a good morning.

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:46 AM

Good Morning All!

I think it's cool, foggy, and dreary out, but I don't know for sure.  I've been sitting in the hospital since 6am.  Yup, you guessed it!  Todays the big day!  Surgery day!  (It's like deja vu, ja vu, ja vu, ja vu.......)  This time, it's the gastric bypass.  The wife is nervous, but she wanted to go through with it, so they're doing it right now.  Should be done in a little over an hour from now.  This should make a huge difference in her life. 

So, here I sit, in another waiting room.  I'm like a veteran of these places!  At least the place is comfortable, and they have public access computers.  I hear the cafe isn't bad either.  I'll have to check that out later.

Oh well, I'm gonna shove off for now.

I'll catch up with you all later!

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Posted by fec153 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:08 AM

Philip- Our prayers are with you.

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Posted by BamaCSX83 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:09 AM

Morning all, just got caught up on things here from Saturday night.  The moment Amy got home, she kinda took over the laptop from me...

Chloe, I'll do a tall stack of buttermilk pancakes, and a tall glass of milk please ma'am. 

The past two days have been kinda fun for me, Sunday was church, the grocery store and a big ole fat nothing at home.  Yesterday was a whirlwind day of going to pick up Amy's bridesmaid dress (her youngest brother is getting hitched at the end of the month), then we went to the zoo up in Mongtomery.  Heather got to ride her first "train", she loved it and I even had fun too, its been too long since we got to spend a real family day together.  Today brings back the normal, w**k from 11:30-5:30, then Heather and Amy both have dance, then showers and ready for bedtime.....ahhh life, ain't it grand?!

Well, guess I should catch up on everything else that I've got to do before heading off to w**k....see y'all in a bit. 

 

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:19 AM

Mornin' everyone!

What Flo?  The dark roast coffee isn't made yet.......?  Oh it will be ready in a bit.  Good!  I'll just hang around and see what is going on for abit while it drips then.

Philip just want you to know your wife and all of you are in my morning prayers.  Hope the surgery is successful for her!!!

It is a very nice, pretty, white outside my window this morning.  Yesterday was more brown and green after several days in the high 30's.  Looks more like January out there now. Wink  Currently 30°F with a high around 33°F later.  Sn*w flurries predicted off and on for most of the day.

73

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Posted by pcarrell on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:44 AM

Well, the doc just came out and let me know that all went well!  Thanks for the prayers!

Now for a speedy recovery!

 

EDIT:  Guess the foods on me this morning! 

OK, HOSPITAL FOOD FOR EVERYONE!!!!!! 

C'mon, don't be bashful!

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:56 AM

Good morning All...Its a rerun of yesterday here cloudy,fog and 31...I'll have coffee and toast please...Thank You

PC..Your Wife is in my prayers...

I started a scatch build yesterday of a small yard office..got the walls cut out..You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:58 AM

pcarrell

Well, the doc just came out and let me know that all went well!  Thanks for the prayers!

Now for a speedy recovery!

 

EDIT:  Guess the foods on me this morning! 

OK, HOSPITAL FOOD FOR EVERYONE!!!!!! 

C'mon, don't be bashful!

 

Mornin' again people!

No nothing for me Flo.....  Yes I brought my own lunch today....  No coffee, I hate the taste of bad coffee in a  styrofoam cup....  Yes I know that Philip is buying, THAT is why I brought my own....  No, no nothing against you ladies cooking, you know I love your cooking, I heard it was being catered this afternoon by the Horsepiddle....!

Philip glad the surgery went well, prayers for her to have a painless and uneventful recovery and a better life because of it!

BTW, when my late wife was a student at Robert Packer Hospital in Sayre, PA she told me that every time they called for the students to go see an autopsy, it was on a day that the cafeteria was serving Liver.......... Hmmmmmmmm?

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Posted by fec153 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:09 AM

Ray- As long as the onions were sauteed properly and the mashed 'taters aren't lumpy

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM

fec153

Ray- As long as the onions were sauteed properly and the mashed 'taters aren't lumpy

Flip

 



ROFLMAO!   Laugh

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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:44 AM

Tomato & veggie soup with chicken pieces, please.. 

***PC, sending healing thoughts your wife's way, at least what few I can spare. 

***Lee, congrats on the acquisitions.

Have a good day all.

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Posted by 2 foot Jim on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:01 PM

PC;  Prayers for your wife's recovery and for you while you care for her.

Hospital food!  A nurse once told me that the 2 things you need to get well are good food and rest, so in the hospital they feed you food that nobody likes and have a policy against letting a patent rest.

It helps me to remind myself that as bad as the hospita food seems, for a lot of the world that despised meal would be a great feast.

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Posted by LSWrr on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:18 PM
PC that is great news, wishing her a speedy recovery and a time of rest for you to re-charge your batteries!



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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:15 PM

Afternoon all. Chloe, I'll take a RBF, thanks.

Had my Algebra exam today, and dang, was it hard! I didn't finish, but hopefully she'll go somewhat easy on me.
Spanish on the other hand was way easier. ¡Muy facil!
¡El examen de Espanol fuy muy facil, no es dificil! <--- That's epic, right there! Didn't even need a translator to do that Big Smile

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:49 PM

 Finally got all the doctor visit business taken care of for another week. The official estimate is that in two weeks the wound should be healed up. That would make me happy. I'm thinking about doing a little work on the layout but I'm just too tired right now. Maybe later.

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Posted by Trainman Sam on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:55 PM

Good afternoon all!

Phillip- GREAT news on your wife, we’ll be praying for her speedy recovery!

Jim- The under and out was the intention of the dotted line, I hope to connect it to the “main” on the table layout I currently have going. I included the NH&I’s largest customer, CRC Chemicals, on the layout for this iteration, mainly due to the number of carloads that I could have going in and out on an almost “daily” basis: Covered hoppers bringing in different “dry” chemicals; tank cars bringing in other “liquid” chemicals, and boxcars to ship out the finished products!

I was planning on expanding THAT table as well. I am just not sure as to whether or not I will stay with the 5’ x 10’ or change AGAIN to an around the walls attempt. Most likely an around the walls attempt due to my wanting to use the room for a “Home Theatre” of sorts… we’ll see!

As to the last layout idea, it is the expansion project I was mentioning earlier. The lower half will be a yard (the left hand side) and an engine servicing facility (the right hand side). The two tracks that diverge off the “main” between the “industry” and the “yard” switches are probably going to be an interchange with a second “major carrier” (either NS, CSX, Conrail, or some other road name TBD [see just how up in the air my ideas can be!!! Lol])ConfusedSign - Dots

Vincent- check your PM’s, please?

Chris- You wouldn’t happen to have some sort of “blueprints” available for that cool looking grain elevator would you, or happen to know approximate dimensions?

Rob- Aren’t we a small bowl of plain “mixed nuts”!!!Whistling heeheehee

Lee- Dean is on my prayer list! I gave you credit on the portable portion, because I hadn’t thought about THAT until I had seen your website! Great pics BTW! Any chance your friend with the BHS has a Digitrax Zephyr? I’m in the market…

Jerry- what size yard office are you building? Love to see “project pics” if possible? And good luck with it!

Joe- unfortunately this person took three years of Spanish but can’t remember diddley, what does that say??? Lol, but seriously…

Todd- good luck on that track “revision”

Chloe, may I please have anything BUT liver, mashed potatoes and sautéed onions? THANK YOU! Lol

Sam

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:28 PM

Good Afternoon, Zoe - I'll have a taco salad (hold the jalapenos, thanks), with sour cream and shredded cheese so I can add a little 'touch' to it, and a RBF, please. Thanks! Uh, NO, no matter what someone might have suggested, I do NOT want liver in any form, thankyouverymuch!

Hmm... I just noticed that last night, I posted the BOP (Bottom of page), and I think the night before that, I hit the BOP again. Wonder how I've been going about that (and could I raffle off chances on my BOP slot..)? Ah, just luck of the draw, I guess.

Vincent, what scale is your NW2, and got any pics? Oh, and who made it - runs okay? I might be interested in that...(email me, please)

Chris, that one elevator was kinda like counting the proverbial chicken eggs... But I'm sure at the time, they probably had good reason to expect that "of course the railway will come through this way!"

Todd, thanks for clearing up that matter about track plan changes. Whistling Best wishes on the new tracklaying.

Lee, several great pointers about moveable layout sections. And you said it with fewer words than most documents I've seen do. Wink I have your Photobucket account bookmarked for my reference/creative inspiration use. Thumbs Up Good to hear that Walthers supports (even smaller) free enterprise. Yeah!!

LSWrr
Oh and I even found time to take down the Christmas lights.

Hey, guys - I guess the season is over, since Lee took his lights down! Smile,Wink, & Grin

Jeff - thanks about the monument info. Looks like they still make it, about $7.50 regular price. I like yours better than with the railing around it, actually. Good to hear your two visits went well (or as well as can be, in the case of PT...).

Barry - I know that you always do what your boss tells you to do (especially when it means you get to do the w**k from home). Of course, since the roads aren't in great shape up your way, anyway... But I'm sure you'll tough it out today. Whistling

PC - Great to hear the news on your wife's surgery. Now, let us know how her recuperation goes. (very well, I Angel). On that hospital food offer - okay, so long as we don't have to wear those gowns (drafty!).

Bama, you had a fine day there, sounds like (and got Heather a fun time with the train)! Thumbs Up

Ray, you want us to send along our weather when we get done with it? We hit 60 F today, mostly sunny and a light breeze (3 mph). Might have some rain tonight, but nothing heavy. Maybe some rain next couple'a days. Big Smile

Joe, congratulations of getting the Algebra test done with, and on doing well on the Spanish one. Yeah!! (I trust that your Algebra average was high enough that you will pass, right?)

Sam - no problem on coming up with the layout ideas. You might talk with Todd about that, as I understand he can probably relate to some of what you mentioned. Whistling

I went to the license bureau (in the next town over - their people are friendlier than the bureau in Cape) and got the renewal stickers for the car's license plates, so that's out of the way for another year. Glad to find out that since my car's relatively newer, I don't have to have it inspected for another couple of years. Yeah!!

Before I went over this morning, I checked the p.o. box, but didn't get one small order I had coming. Did get my RMC issue in, so I have some reading material. I also did some checking online about decoders that will fit in/go with some of my locomotives, and printed out some info on those. Also photographed most of my rolling stock that I have out of boxes. Dallas Model Works has a thing on their website where you can put your cars and then make up a consist for trains. Except for my having to get online to do that, I like the idea. Smile

I'll be at the window booth, whittling away at my (NON-hospital) lunch. Dinner

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:49 PM

JimRCGMO
Jeff - thanks about the monument info. Looks like they still make it, about $7.50 regular price. I like yours better than with the railing around it, actually. Good to hear your two visits went well (or as well as can be, in the case of PT...).

Yeah, the physical was just the general stuff plus a blood test. The physical therapy included range of motion and a bunch of X-rays. Glad to see you can find the memorial somewhere. I can't find it on Walther's or Bachmann's sites.

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Posted by Trainman Sam on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:02 PM

Sam

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:21 PM

Trainman Sam

 

And here it is on Walthers:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/160-42218

I couldn't find it at first either, because Walthers/Bachmann calls it a "Center Square Monument", instead of a VFW memorial (what one online HS called it).

That should help all who want to look it up, between Sam's post and mine.

 

Jim in Cape Girardeau

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