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Posted by Cox 47 on Monday, October 23, 2006 10:17 AM
Morning all....Sunny and cold here this morning....I'll have coffee and a Krispy Kream please...I plan to do some ballasting and ground cover today...Moving kinda slow we stayed up to watch the Cards Tiger game....Cards just couldn't handle Kenny Rodgers last nite....Not much going on around here ...you all have a good one...Jerry
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Posted by SilverSpike on Monday, October 23, 2006 10:15 AM

Monday, October 23, 2006

Good morning and a tall cup of coffee for me please!

Dinner [dinner] Well, looks like I got the bill for today's lunch! Dinner [dinner]

Hope everyone had a great weekend; Saturday was a spectacularly beautiful day, clear skies and comfortable temps. Sunday was rain, wet, cold, and cloudy all day, just about a 180 degree turnaround from the day before. So we just sat and watched movies and football all day, fireplace was going too, nice and cozy.

The fall colors are in full swing here in the Piedmont. The daily commute home is a wonderful mix of colors including green, red, orange, yellow, and brown.

Ben finally went back to school today; he was out just about all last week with the strep throat. I am feeling better now too!

Yea, ModelTrainLover, I have a case of that here, and I can’t seem to find the cure either.

Inch, at 32’ up from the barn roof was not enough height, maybe add another 50’ you could get some loft in those sheets! Just kidding! Hope your mother is feeling better soon.

Lisa, our thoughts and prayers for you and your family. Sorry about your loss, we send our sympathies.

 grayfox1119 wrote:

RYAN: How is the project going? I did not receive a project progress report by 5pm yesterday, you know, the week ending report?

RYAN: Report to the Conference Room # 4 for your Progress Report on your Layout, coffee and doughnuts will be served, Ed has OJ and Inch has doughnuts, Jeff is taking notes. Duke is video man for daily newspaper.

Dick, Oops [oops] I knew I forgot to do something, the antibiotics and Allegra-D was making my head spin a bit the past few days. Thanks for the doughnuts and coffee, I hope I’m not late.

Quiet now, cause the CFO cannot find out that I was actually working on the layout for a few hours on Friday when I was supposed to be resting being sick. Actually, I did get to screw down the plywood sub-roadbed sections for the staging yard and a portion of the sub-roadbed leading into the peninsula area. I also glued down about 18’ of cork roadbed on the interchange yard section leading into the spur and passenger trackage areas. Photos will be forthcoming.

Actually, I spilled the beans Friday night, after the CFO and my assistant ran out to Taco Bell and I snuck up to the train room for about 30 minutes. She had to call me on the cell phone to tell me she was home. I came down and she asked me what I was doing. I said “…drilling holes and screwing down some plywood.” (The saw dust in my hair must have given her a clue)

Duke, thanks for sharing the Apex photos. The plaque they set up for Jack is a fitting memorial.

RT, sorry to have that happen to your friend, and for all in the past few months. Prayers to you my friend!

Scott, great photo in the train shop, and glad to hear you left Sears; you were spreading yourself out way to thin.

Jim, looks like you been busy on the layout.

Jeff, quite a collection of photos you got there. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Hoople, school, band, and soccer will take time away from trains, but school should be #1 right now, and then trains, OK! LOL

So, PC, what's on the grill for lunch today?

Ryan Boudreaux
The Piedmont Division
Modeling The Southern Railway, Norfolk & Western & Norfolk Southern in HO during the merger era
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, October 23, 2006 10:03 AM
Grayfox:
JEFF: That is a neat idea to print out your lables on onion skin paper. I imagine you cut out the printed labels and then glue them onto the locos? Do you spray a clearcoat over them too?
I don't use any kind of coating on them. If you want to try, let me know how it turns out.

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Posted by pcarrell on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:51 AM

Welcome back Hoople!  Long time no see!

Drums huh?  What kind of music do you play?

Sounds like next weekend will be a long overdue time for working on the trains.

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Posted by Hoople on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:44 AM
Darn... I haven't been on in a while. Whats new?
 
 
I haven't done anything model railroad related since mid august... Maybe cause I got that nice Ludwig kit..
 
 
On soccer terms, my team has won all games except one. St. Lukes is going to die in the playoffs.
The little cheaters... I counted how many fouls  they did. I got 37. The ref. didn't notice half of them.
 
I mainly have been doing homework... and drums... ok more drums than homework, but ya know... Drums are lot funner..................
 
I think I'll take next saturday to finish up merchants row 1, then I'll go build glacier gravel, and paint it.
The next weekend will probably be making that frieght depot I got... Then I can build up my hill...
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Posted by grayfox1119 on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:34 AM
Good morning guys, hope everyone had a great weekend.

Today's weather report in central New England is:

Sky: Completely overcast, fog is Valleys
Temp: 47F
DP: 47F ( now you know why there is fog( T=DP)
RH: 98%
BAR: 29.61" and steady (S)
WIND: 1 Mph, NW
RAIN: 0.01" since midnight
SNOW: 0

Forecast: Clearing skies in Southern New England, rain changing to snow in Northern most parts of New England above 1000 feet

TRAIN STUFF: Today I am ordering the F drive unit from Intermountain, and the CN FP9 Shell from Central Hobbies in Vancouver, BC. When parts arrive, I will be assembling to make this an EMD FP9 for my layout.

OTHER ACTIVITIES TODAY: Take in the last two cart loads of firewood to the garage. That will give us about 3 cords, and if I use more than that this Winter, well lets just say that it will be a wild Winter.

JEFF: That is a neat idea to print out your lables on onion skin paper. I imagine you cut out the printed labels and then glue them onto the locos? Do you spray a clearcoat over them too?

INCH: I am sure happy to hear that you at least had some bales of hay at the bottom of the barnyard!!! Good Lord you must have been saying Ohhhhhhhhh sh.............. as the parachute didn't deploy !!!!! You dad was pretty smart too, he knew you had learned a lesson and nothing he could add would teach you more. I take it when you joined the Service you didn't join the Paratroopers? LOL

RYAN: Report to the Conference Room # 4 for your Progress Report on your Layout, coffee and doughnuts will be served, Ed has OJ and Inch has doughnuts, Jeff is taking notes. Duke is video man for daily newspaper.

MODELTRAINLOVER: How old are you young man? 14? NOW...you now how WE old guys feel when we do heavy work at OUR age. See what you are coming to? And....YOU are in the PRIME of your youth and strength!!!!!
BTW, are you up at the Narrow Guage in Union, Maine, or the one in Portland? Is there one also in Greenville, Maine?

Later,
Dick If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me........you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 local weather www.weatherlink.com/user/grayfox1119
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:08 AM
Uh-oh! Now you're gonna be an international celebrity.Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Monday, October 23, 2006 9:02 AM
I did have fun and now I'm stiff as a board.

and the 6 o'clock news cameria guy came and there was 2 glimps of me I was in a orange shirt.
sweet! I was on the 6 o'clock news!
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, October 23, 2006 7:05 AM

sounds like you had fun. weather for leesville today.

Wind Chill: 43°F

Humidity: 64%

Dew Point: 36°F


So Far Today
High: 50°F
Low: 46°F
Rain: N/A"
Rain Rate: N/A"/h
Gust: 10mph NNE

High: 68 °F
Low: 45 °F

Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds around 10 mph.

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Posted by ModelTrainLover on Monday, October 23, 2006 7:04 AM
well gess what happend to me Sunday!

TRACK CREW!!!

I shoveld 3 tons of ballast give or take 200 pounds over the course of 5 hours, pushed a 2 ton ballast car, with the help of 3-4 other volinteers at the Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad
 was it hard work? yes
did I feel stiff when I stoped working? yes
did I do it with out complaining and did I love?   HELL YEAH!
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Posted by inch53 on Monday, October 23, 2006 5:04 AM
Mornin all, Coffee and 2 doughtnuts Zoe,
Mostly cloudy, high in the 40's and a cold west wind in store for today, guess I'll need a couple more logs on the fire.
 Mom is home now, but they not letting her do much yet and she can't drive till she goes back to the docs again.  Said she's glad to be home, but not happy bout just settin round.
 Got a little done on the layout yesterday. worked on getting some ground cover down where the bridges cross the creek and mill pond, now I'm waiting on Bryan to paint the backdrop behind the pond. then some more track can go down. Also worked on a box culvert, but didn't like the way it turned out, so I'll try I'll try another one this week.

Jeff,,,, thanks for the all pics. Nice looking layout you had there and will be again from the looks of it.

Nothing planned for the day, got kids, I best get to chores. Hope ya'll has a good one
inch

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Monday, October 23, 2006 4:33 AM

Good morning ! from Indiana.Big Smile [:D]

10-23-06

Clown [:o)]

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 23, 2006 3:58 AM
Good morning



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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:43 PM
Jim: That's stock onion skin paper from the office supply or Wal-Mart. Icut them out once they're printed and attach them with a VERY THIN coat of white glue.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:39 PM
Evenin’ Chloe - a cup of mocha, please. Thanks!

Duke, the pics that weren’t showing up were the ones before the last batch (before the ones with Jack’s plaque and all). Rather than re-post, you could give me where they are in your album, I guess, and I'll go look at 'em there.

Jeff, good pics of your layout(s). I’m sure you’ve learned a lot over the course of building them (in the various sizes). I’d read about having an N scale in the background, but you took it one step further by having an identical train back there. Thumbs Up [tup] Hey, on the onion skin decals, is that just stock from an office supply store? And how do you fasten/attach/glue them to your engines/freight cars? That sounds very interesting - and it’d allow me to make more posters for sides of my buildings, etc. Yeah!! [yeah]

Mike
, on the spelling (or pronunciation (sp?) - I’m with you and the kids. I figure my spelling is off on it for sure, and the pronouncing it I’m probably half (or better) off. Wink [;)] Hey, bear in mind that (if I counted correctly) Scott’s still got one job left, so he can still get some MRR’ing money. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] On your barn jump, I’ll assume you did check the hay pile for hard objects before you went up to jump, right? Evil [}:)]Oops [oops]

RT, I was wondering about MTH when Scott put up that pic, but I don’t recall anyone in here getting very heated about MTH when I’ve been reading through the posts. You’re right - some people like him and others don’t. A little like people liking (or not) a certain big western RR line. I saw one guy whose engines (in that famed yellow and greyish color scheme) were labelled “Non Specific”. Whistling [:-^]
Whistling [:-^]Whistling [:-^]

I’ve been working on the railroad... (not singing the song, just what I’ve been up to today)Wink [;)]... Got about half the holes drilled underneath for the turnouts’ throw rods, and have been tightening up the spacing of the track to eliminate some smaller gaps. Want to spend the time to (hopefully) only have to do it once - the right way - hate to have to pull up stuff and re-do it.

Don’t have a weather station here, but I believe it’s as cold here as it is in Detroit currently (45 F). ‘cept I’m inside instead of out in the rain. Smile [:)] Supposed to drop off below freezing tonight here.

Blessings, and hope everyone has a good week,

Jim in Cape Girardeau
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:27 PM

Here's the lineup of the three locomotives I'm using right now.

 
#1 - Athearn F7 in KCS gray livery

#2 - Bachmann GP50 being made over for MKT

#3 - Proto2000 GP30 in KCS gray livery

The cheap power pack powers my switch machines.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:54 PM

 Cox 47 wrote:
Jeff....How did you print the onion skin? Sounds like it would work for signs and billboards on buildings? Do you use your computer printer?   jerry
I do use my printer, yes. I use a Hewlett Packard Deskjet. The onion skin paper will work for almost any kind of decal/sign/billboard. Even the lettering on my locomotives and rolling stock are printed on it. There's nothing to it. A child could do it, it's that easy. Put it this way. I was a mentally retarded child. If I can do it, anybody can.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:44 PM
Jeff....How did you print the onion skin? Sounds like it would work for signs and billboards on buildings? Do you use your computer printer?   jerry
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:15 PM
KCS is my favorite, yes. It's right here locally so I have no problem getting prototype information. You probably won't believe this, but I made every one of those decals myself. They're printed on onion skin paper and applied with white glue. Some of them are over 6 years old.

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Posted by Cox 47 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 5:10 PM
Jeff...Thanks for the photos I like the way you have the back drop it adds "miles' to your layout...Looks like you have a lot of rolling stock..Is KSC your favorite railroad? You got to catch who ever is putting that graffitti on your rolling stock ..that looks to real....Jerry
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:54 PM
Every one of them.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:51 PM
Nice pic's Jeff, do you paint and letter your own engines?
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 4:37 PM

Jerry: I've been into model railroading since I recieved a Lionel Double Diesel train set as a christmas gift in 1964. I've built over thirty layouts since then. 2 were O scale, 2 N scale, 2 G scale and the rest were all HO scale with the exception of one that was HO and N scale with HO train running near the front of the layout and an identical N scale train running at the back. The trick there was to make sure that only one was visible at any one time. This made the layout look muck larger than it actually was.

My first HO layout was built by my father in 1966. It had 2 mainlines with an interchange and 1 spur. The trains were a OO Mantua freight set and a HO Bachmann freight set. Can you remember when Bachmann wasn't made in Japan or China? I can. I still have a Bachmann GP40 that was made in Germany almost 30 years ago and it still runs like a top.

As for pics of the layout, I'll start with some from the layout before my current one.

And remember, you asked for it.

Here are some from the current layout.

That's enough for now.

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:18 PM
HEY!  Who put this back here on page two?
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Posted by Cox 47 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:43 AM

Good Morning all.....Sunny is out but its windy and colder than the south end of a well digger....Just coffee for me Sallie got up and made biscuits for breakfast so I'm  full... We stayed up last night and watched the Cards whop the Tiggers seems like everbody thought they couldn't do it..Reyes pitch a great game...

Not much traintime in my Brother is coming down this afternoon and I think my son and his wife and kids are coming....I got to get in gear and build some buildings coal mine for sure...

Mike.....Glad to hear your Mom and Becky are better..Sorry to hear old "Arthur" has you all stoved up..He is visiting here too could get my arm up to get my hat on...

Jeff...How about some more pictures of your layout? You say you built the bench work back in 98 was that you first? How long have you been Model Railroading? You seem to me to get alot enjoyment from your layout and I think thats what we all want to do...

PC...It gets tuff when your health will no longer let you get out for Church but visits from our pastor help...I don't know if you have any folks in the same boat in your congregation but if you do don't forget how much your visits and prayer mean...

Well I'm ramblin' on ....You all have a good Sunday...Don't strain your eyes with 2 football games and the World Series....Jerry

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:45 AM
I've been working on this incarnation of it for about 5 months. I built the bench work in 98 and have had 6 layouts on it. This makes #7.

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:26 AM
Good morning everyone , another clear day here in Central New England. Here are weather conditions at 10am EDST:

Sky: Clear
Temp: 42.3F
DP: 43F
RH: 61%
Wind: NW at 1mph
BP: 30.03" Steady
Rain last 24 hrs: 0
Snow last 24 hrs: 0

Forecast: clouding up by late afternoon, rain at night, cloudy with showers on Monday morning.

DUKE: Thanks for having my parking space name sign installed at HD, very nice sign too!!!

COLBY: Thank you for cheering up the troops here, all the sickness and loss of loved ones can get very depressing, it's the young ones who will help us get through the rough times. Your a good man Colby.

JEFF: The layout looks real impressive, how long have you been building it?

TRAINFREAK409: You made the right choice of your school work over the Sears job and late hours. Your future is FAR more important, and you are to be commended for being so mature as to realize this when so many young men do not. GOOD MOVE !!!!

Well, today I need to bring in about 5 more cart loads of fire wood, that should complete the Winter's supply of wood for the woodburner on the lower level of the house.

TRAIN STUFF: I am still trying to buy/build an EMD FP9 Diesel that I can number 6516. This diesel was made in Canada for CN, and now is running the daily passenger runs through Crawford Notch , New Hampshire through the White Mountains. For those of you who may not know much about FP9's ,( A units ) they didn't make many, they are used in passenger service, they are 4 feet longer than F9's ( used for Freight service ) to house a steam generator located just aft of the front truck. So 4 feet longer than an F9 would mean that 48"/87 =0.55" would be added to an HO F9 to make it an FP9 to be prototypical. The problem? NO ONE makes an FP9!!! However Kaslo Products of Canada makes an FP9 shell, and Central Hobbies located in Vancouver, BC sells the CN FP9 shell. So, now I am looking at InterMountain power chassis to fit one under this shell.

Talk later guys,
Dick If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me........you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 local weather www.weatherlink.com/user/grayfox1119
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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:08 AM
I came to find out later that he had serious problems of a mental nature which will not be discussed here.

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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:00 AM

 jeffrey-wimberly wrote:
I once met a man who told me he goes to church 6 times a week. When I asked him why he went so many times a week, he said it was to re-affirm his faith. I told him in no uncertain terms that if he needs to re-affirm his faith that many times in one week, he better do some serious soul searching, because something's wrong.

Maybe he was taking the "renewing" refered to here, that extra mile?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012:2;&version=31;

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:29 AM
I once met a man who told me he goes to church 6 times a week. When I asked him why he went so many times a week, he said it was to re-affirm his faith. I told him in no uncertain terms that if he needs to re-affirm his faith that many times in one week, he better do some serious soul searching, because something's wrong.

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