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Teen Model Railroader Place - January 2009

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:48 PM

Packer

I'll have to test it to see if I get the same.

 

I'll have to test it to give the moderators more work! Whistling

I got that same message too. It sort of makes sense, so people don't have to sift through discussions in other languages to find one in English, but still... Sort of discrimination, IMHO...

I got some work done on the layout yesterday, including pouring "water" in a pond, swamp, and drainage ditch (the only three water areas of the layout) and working on several rock faces. I'd have photos, but the "water" is pretty brown-ish before it dries, and the rock faces aren't installed yet... I need to sculptamold around them to blend them into the surrounding scenery after attaching them.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:23 PM

I have my bio exam tomorrow.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:58 PM

I posted "can you read this" in Russian. Yeah, I used one of them traslators.

I haven't really done a whole lot today. Took a test in my college biology class, aced it no sweat.

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by ns3010 on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:51 PM

Packer

Хорошо, чинит этот показ?

Not a clue what you just said...

Alex, it makes sense why they would delete it, but there's probably people out there reading this that don't understand english.

Which leads me to think if my another post of mine will be edited/deleted. "Spanish exam today was easy. (El examen de espanol no es dificil, es facil.)" Maybe not because I already had it in english and I was discussing my spanish exam.

Only two exams left! Get out at 11:15 tomorrow and we have off Friday.

Oh, and BTW, does anyone know as to where I can get a K5LA for my F40. I searched the Walthers catalog, but couldn't find anything.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:31 PM

Maybe they got tired of people trying (as in, butchering it) to speak a foriegn language.

I'll have to test it to see if I get the same.

Vincent

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:28 PM

Well I didn't know we couldn't post in French here, I just got my French posts deleted. No wonder there's hardly anyone from Quebec on the forums.

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Posted by Packer on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:45 AM

That's a pretty good sign Alex; just don't turn into a drama queen.Clown

Well I checked Horizon's page on my F45 with sound/dcc I pre-ordered (from Standard Hobby and saved close to 100 bucks, which will probably go towards a second one, just need 80 more bucks). They are showing In-Stock, and Standard hobby doesn't say anything about pre-ordering. Hopefully it'll be here before next Tuesday (MR club night, read break-in and test time).

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2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:28 PM

Well I had Drama for the first time today, so far so good, it's a lot better than the 3 1/2 years of Spanish I had, that's for sure! It's all good when the first thing you find out in class is you are going on a Field Trip. Tongue

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Posted by MadSinger on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:46 PM

Darn today was a long day for me!  First, finals, then play auditions, then speech team, then more play auditions!  Then studing for tomorrows finals!  Enough already.  It's not even tech week for Madrigals, and I'm tired.\

Interesting about the Boston area, but I don't have a clue about the places you're talking about!

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:22 PM

The Central Mass was built on the surface, there's a modern signal tower on Mass Ave in North Cambridge where the line crossed. The subway was cut and cover from Davis to Alewife, and was a very deep bore from Harvard-Davis, with the portion from Porter-Davis mostly under residential property.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:02 PM

I'm the only one your knowledge in the Boston area benefits, Alex... I do have one question though: The Alewife extention of the red line, how was it built? Was it just covering up an existing line, or was it all a new tunnel? If so, was it using a TBM (tunnel boring machine) or cut and cover?

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:20 PM

The Cambridge Rail Trail doesn't impede future operations at all...

When the B&M took over the Central Mass, the Fitchburg Railroad was a separate entity, thus they laid rail from a junction on the Boston & Lowell, through Davis Square and running parallel on a third track from where Alewife is today, to Clematis Brook. This created 3 East West competitors in the state of Massachusetts, and allowed the B&M access to the west. When they absorbed the Fitchburg in 1900, the Central Mass was demoted to a branch line, with all east-west traffic moving over the Fitchburg Division. The third track between Fresh Pond, and Clematis Brook was used until 1952, when they removed it, and built a switch at Clematis brook allowing trains on the branch to run on mainline rail all the way into Boston. When B&M acquired the Fitchburg they added two pairs of crossovers between Fresh Pond and Belmont. The first allowed Commuter Trains, and Branch traffic onto the third running rail from the Mainline when running outbound, while the second diverted mainline freights, local freights, and over sized loads around Cambridge on the original Central Mass Trackage. These trains merged onto the New Hampshire Division (Boston & Lowell), and ran on third/fourth iron most of the way to Boston. The two diverged prior to Boston Engine Terminal, with the mainline heading downgrade into North Station, and the Freight Trackage crossing over the Fitchburg Division on a bridge, and arriving in the Hump Yards. In Belmont Station, you can still see the remains of the third platform used by CM Trains, and its obvious of the extra width that was included when they built the Station/Bridge complex... The Bikeway is built on the freight bypass, and the switch at Clematis Brook is still in place.

Phew... Anyone who challenges my knowledge will subsequently be removed...

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Posted by Bapou on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:10 PM

ns3010

I hate when people refer to the Multilevels as Comet VIs. The Comet series is single level cars. There is NO SUCH THING as a CVI. They are called Multilevels. And this is America, not Britain. They are Multilevels, NOT DOUBLE DECKERS!!!

 

I am a guilty party there... I have always heard them called C VI's or ML's. I just use both terms.

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:05 PM

I hate when people refer to the Multilevels as Comet VIs. The Comet series is single level cars. There is NO SUCH THING as a CVI. They are called Multilevels. And this is America, not Britain. They are Multilevels, NOT DOUBLE DECKERS!!!

I finally removed the last portion of the wall on my CII- soon to be station. Now just waiting till I can get paint, etc.

Also continued on my F40. I removed all windows and grilles from the shell. All of the grilles are the same, with the addition of one small one in the back. So no modifying the grilles, just extending the body and adding a door, the extra set of grilles, and a different back. And ditch lights to the front.

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Posted by Packer on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:23 PM

Both Alexes: I can do that do, every time I get called a CB&Q or GN modeler at my own MR club.

I'm guessing it has something to do with most of them being transition-era modelers. When they hear Burlington Northern; they don't get the last part and think Burlington or they don't get the first part and think Great Nothern.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:38 PM

Guilford Guy

Railfan Alex

Good idea Ty! There are some pretty good videos of the Mass Central Trash Service on Youtube if anyone was interested.

 

 

MASS COASTAL!!! COASTAL!!!

*EPIC RAGE*

I can say the same thing when someone says Canadian National Railroad or Canadian Pacific Railroad... It's Railway!

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Posted by ns3010 on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:39 AM

Tyler, sounds like a great idea.

English exam wasn't as hard as I expected it to be. History was horrible. Period 6 World History (my class) is retarted and they were talking through the whole exam. Just to make it harder. But luckily our history teacher is really nice and usually just grades you on what you have done and he said that we could do an extra essay for extra credit. But anyway, it was REALLY REALLY REALLY HARD!!! (end of rant, sorry)

Last night, I started cutting up my CII and I have most of the wall removed. Just one tiny corner left, almost done. I'll probably finish the modifying by the end of the week because we get out at 11:15 everyday and we get Friday off. (No, we just about never have school.) Then I'll have to paint it, add a floor, benches, stairs, and signs.

Only 4 exams left! Yes, I know it's a lot, but 3 are already done.

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, January 19, 2009 11:12 PM

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?200901192319386458.jpg

You sure this isn't more appropriate?

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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, January 19, 2009 7:34 PM

 Tyler, I note that some town used my name, lol.

believe me, I don't, nor have I, ever owned a mill Big Smile Wink 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 19, 2009 7:16 PM

Guilford Guy

Railfan Alex

Good idea Ty! There are some pretty good videos of the Mass Central Trash Service on Youtube if anyone was interested.

 

 

MASS COASTAL!!! COASTAL!!!

*EPIC RAGE*

 

An understandable error, but Alex is right... Mass Central is a shortline operating between Palmer, MA, and Barre, MA. Not to be confused with the Central Massachusetts, of course. A little history lesson on the Central Mass now...

The Central Massachusetts was a railroad chartered in 1869 as a parallel competitor to the Boston & Albany (later NYC, Conrail, and now CSX) running from Boston, MA, to Northampton, MA. It later became part of the Boston & Maine.

When the Wachusett Reservoir was built by flooding the Nashua River in 1897, the Central Mass (B&M by that time, but it was the Central Mass Division) was operating in Sawyer's Mill and South Clinton (both part of Boylston, MA) so a new alignment was built on the roadbed of the Worcester, Nashua, and Rochester Railroad. This included a short tunnel and a 1000+ foot bridge. The alignment rejoined the original track in West Boylston.

Eventually, the line was completely abandoned. As an interesting note, the MBTA currently owns the track from the Boston area to Berlin, MA (south of Clinton and east of Boylston). But with the Framingham/Worcester line so close to the south, and part of a rail trail already using the roadbed in Cambridge, (a Boston suburb) there's no hope for restored commuter rail service.

Here's the best (and saddest, to me) part: all of this is within biking distance! Darn those Boston people who flooded half my town 'cause they wanted to drink clean water!Smile,Wink, & Grin)

Here are a couple photos and aerial photos of the tunnel and dam area.

Tunnel:

You can see the bridge pilings in the water at the base of the dam here. If you look to the right of them you'll see the tunnel entrance.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.404763,-71.685287&spn=0.003383,0.006303&t=h&z=18 

Hope you enjoyed this little tour! If you've got any questions, just ask. Now I need to research the Worcester - Clinton trolley line that ran through the center of town...Cool

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Posted by Guilford Guy on Monday, January 19, 2009 6:07 PM

Railfan Alex

Good idea Ty! There are some pretty good videos of the Mass Central Trash Service on Youtube if anyone was interested.

 

 

MASS COASTAL!!! COASTAL!!!

*EPIC RAGE*

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Posted by Packer on Monday, January 19, 2009 5:39 PM

Looks like you have a nice re-numbering/re-lettering project going on, Tyler.

I tried to de-weather a pair of boxcars, using warm-soapy water and a deck brush. One came out fine, however on the other one, I took off most of the car data and most of the road number. So I'm stuck trying to figure out how to get the car data and a number on the car, but I don't know if there are any decals for that purpose. I have a similar type of car, so if I had to make a decal, I could use that for the information.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, January 19, 2009 5:13 PM

 Hey tyler, nice work on the AAT bit, I like how you have the letters on the side stacked. Tongue (EDIT: will show up as AAT reefer #0202698(0) in company records (will say it was a previously numbered car before we added the eighth digit to the frieght car numbers)

Nice plan for the hopper too.

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Posted by Railfan Alex on Monday, January 19, 2009 5:03 PM

Good idea Ty! There are some pretty good videos of the Mass Central Trash Service on Youtube if anyone was interested.

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 19, 2009 4:07 PM

I've been working on patching some freightcars...

WRS 30008:



WRS 30007:



ARK 1012:



AAT 0202698:



I also caught a pair of hoppers just repaired and put into MOW service, 90000 and 90002. The numbering system is a bit strange at this point, as the snowplow is numbered 90001, right in the middle of a number series...

(Incidentally, these are the two gravel hoppers involved in the epic (as Alex described it) runaway train wreck where the overweighted Accurail boxcar's truck pin broke...




Also, I have a use for my single Bethgon coal gondola - trash service. A railroad around here (Mass Coastal out on Cape Cod, which operates a trash train to the SEMASS power plant) uses rebuilt cars like mine for their service. All I'll need to do is add a top (I won't stretch the top just yet) and I'll have myself a car for trash service! I used to see the trash train crossing the Cape Cod Canal Lift Bridge (the 2nd largest lift bridge in the US) when it was still operated by Bay Colony, so this will bring back a lot of memories.

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And the prototype:
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I took this shot with my dad's (film) camera when I was 5 or 6 of the trash train crossing the lift bridge. Spending that long in the photo album didn't work out so well for the photo, so it's pretty bad quality. This was probably my first railfan photo though...
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Posted by ns3010 on Monday, January 19, 2009 12:42 PM

Oh, that's too bad. We're 4-2 in the season, and like 0-a bagillion for scrimmages.

While running some trains before, again my Horizon kept derailing. It's pretty heavy, so IDK why. It always seems to be at the same switch, but no other cars ever derail. So, I decided that I would modify it, repaint it into NJT colors, and turn it into a platform. It's currently painted as an Amtrak horizon. Horizons are very similar to CIIs. So, I'll repaint it as a CII, remove a wall, cover some stairwells, and remove the wheels. Right now, most of the stuff I don't need is removed and the shell is soaking to remove the weathering.

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Posted by Packers#1 on Monday, January 19, 2009 12:29 PM

 Joe, i know how bad it is to lose (my basketball team is 0-4).

I'm probably going to just do some homework today, maybe get some new shoes, etc. Probably not going to do anything model railroading related though.

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Posted by Packer on Monday, January 19, 2009 10:57 AM

I managed to squeeze in some MR work already today. I managed to make a good ladder top for my caboose,and I found a good mounting hole for it. While I was at it, I made some of the rails for my Athearn SW1500s. (I'm hoping athearn does there SW1000s soon, so I can get the better looking plastic ones and the flexicoil-B sideframes)

Later I plan to paint the handrail ends on my GP30s and change the decoder in my SW1500s. (the lenz silver is a tad big, I'm putting in a TCS M4 in it's place)

Vincent

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Posted by ns3010 on Monday, January 19, 2009 8:59 AM

Hmmmm, I wonder who that could be...

Finally have the pictures.

An aerial shot of the mostly completed MPB. Note the weathering on the silos and transfer building.

A tired and dirty NS GP50 pauses after switching MPB.

And the rebuild of my F40PH into NJT F40PH-2CAT 4113.

We have off today, but I'll probably end up studying all day.

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Posted by MadSinger on Monday, January 19, 2009 8:17 AM

Don't worry about it, I understand why you're mad.

BTW, Tyler, there's someone else on the forums with that name *cough cough*

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