Bergie TrainManTy Maybe TMRP will have Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall editions? Bergie? I'm shooting for monthly for all such threads. Unfortunatley, regardless of ones age, I get accused of not treating all such threads fairly if I lock one and not all. (Yes, it's true.) Bergie
TrainManTy Maybe TMRP will have Winter, Spring, Summer, and Fall editions? Bergie?
I'm shooting for monthly for all such threads. Unfortunatley, regardless of ones age, I get accused of not treating all such threads fairly if I lock one and not all. (Yes, it's true.)
Bergie
Nope, looks like we'll need to start a new one.
Here's a link to the new one.
http://cs.trains.com/trccs/forums/t/146967.aspx
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Railfan AlexWell it's February, so should we start a new post, or wait on Bergie?
Well it's February, so should we start a new post, or wait on Bergie?
I thought it would be like a seasonal posting or something.
Sawyer Berry
Clemson University c/o 2018
Building a protolanced industrial park layout
Alex
ns3010Nice job with those beacons! As for wiki, before this conversation started, I had already seen that page. It was all legit info. After you mentioned it, it was still correct. It's easy to get them confused because the names are exactly the same except for the F and the P. If you look at it fast, you'll never know which it is. If someone says "NJT GP40" it could really mean either. Same if someone says "NJT ALP"- they could mean an ALP-44(M) or an ALP-46(and soon also A). Got the scenery on one of the hills by MPB done and by the grade crossing. Don't have trees (need to buy more), but I'll get pix anyway.
Nice job with those beacons!
As for wiki, before this conversation started, I had already seen that page. It was all legit info. After you mentioned it, it was still correct. It's easy to get them confused because the names are exactly the same except for the F and the P. If you look at it fast, you'll never know which it is. If someone says "NJT GP40" it could really mean either. Same if someone says "NJT ALP"- they could mean an ALP-44(M) or an ALP-46(and soon also A).
Got the scenery on one of the hills by MPB done and by the grade crossing. Don't have trees (need to buy more), but I'll get pix anyway.
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ns3010 Sawyer: Green mountain scenery does make for good colors. There is NS trackage that follows along the Delaware RIver, and there is a mountain behind it. Just before you cross into PA, Route 80 parallels the river and you can see the string of cars in just across the river and it looks pretty cool.
Sawyer: Green mountain scenery does make for good colors. There is NS trackage that follows along the Delaware RIver, and there is a mountain behind it. Just before you cross into PA, Route 80 parallels the river and you can see the string of cars in just across the river and it looks pretty cool.
Yeah. I've got GMR 2007, and there's a clinchfield layout in there that I really like. It's almost exactly what I want (just w/o the mines, though i can model that traffic w/ branches that disappear). I might model a coal mine at some point though.
I've also experienced it first hand back when I had my desktop layout, b/c the forest complemented the locos excellently.
Joe and Singer, I'm in the whole wikipedia conversation, now I'm confused.(unless wiki changed between the time I got my info and joe read it)
Anyways, I managed to put non-operating beacons on my SD45s:
Vincent
Wants: 1. high-quality, sound equipped, SD40-2s, C636s, C30-7s, and F-units in BN. As for ones that don't cost an arm and a leg, that's out of the question....
2. An end to the limited-production and other crap that makes models harder to get and more expensive.
Singer: Exactly what I'm saying. He said something about "Dang Wikipedia" and I had read that page before then. After that, I checked it, and it was right...
Just worked on scenery over near MPB. I'll get pix of that, anything else I get done tonight, and progress of the F40 later.
ns3010 Sawyer: Ok... This is why I hate coming into things late. I get confused REALLY easily and coming into the middle of conversations doesn't help...
Sawyer: Ok... This is why I hate coming into things late. I get confused REALLY easily and coming into the middle of conversations doesn't help...
Well, essentially, back in the fall, I kept kicking around where I wanted to set my model railroad. Finally came back to around SC.
Now, I finally figured out what I want to get from model railroading, and well, the Appalachian mountains will let me do it (great scenery to watch trains roll in, green is a nice neutral pallet for paint schemes, I've found)
Vincent: I have only found Wikipedia wrong a couple of times! I don't know why there is such a problem. It is policed, you know.
There are supposedly a few good CAD programs out there. Sorry, don't knokw any names.
Vincent: Surprisingly, Wikipedia is right for once. I have no clue what you were talking about.
Off to maybe do work on the layout, whatever. IDK...
Also, anyone know of a program I could use to sketch up a trackplan. That way you guys will be able to figure out whats going on inside my head.
ns3010Kill you for what? Assuming that's your plan for your new layout, sounds pretty good to me. And BTW, what's up with the ginormous font?
Kill you for what?
Assuming that's your plan for your new layout, sounds pretty good to me.
And BTW, what's up with the ginormous font?
It is. Well, the attic layout when I get the attic as a bedroom.
To understand why they'd kill me, you had to be on here back in the fall.
Also, the ginourmous font is what i used to type in on here, and what I set the type to on that other site.
ns3010 PackerWell, where would you get the parts to extend your Bachmann one into an F40PH-2CAT? Styrene. It should be pretty easy to build because it's exactly the same as the old back, just extended over the rear platform. Except on the very back, the the two sets of grab irons switched places and there is no longer a door. The door is now on the side, in the back. If this makes sense.
PackerWell, where would you get the parts to extend your Bachmann one into an F40PH-2CAT?
Styrene. It should be pretty easy to build because it's exactly the same as the old back, just extended over the rear platform. Except on the very back, the the two sets of grab irons switched places and there is no longer a door. The door is now on the side, in the back. If this makes sense.
But it looks like there is an foruth fan and the radiator section is a little longer. Maybe chopping of part of the LL version's shell would make it go by faster. I might have enough left of my F40's shell to help you with that. I gutted most of it, the weights are in several of my freight cars, the wheels and truck sideframes are part of a scrap load, have the rest of it that I haven't figured out what to do with.
ns3010Oh, and BTW, the F45 cowls were used in the building of the GP40FH-2s. There is a HUGE difference between those and the GP40PH-2s (As and Bs included).
So it's the GP40FH-2 that has the cowl... Dang wikipedia.
Looks like a GP40FH-2 and GP40WH-2 would be easy to make. Just get an athearn bluebox (can be foud for around 10 bucks every now and then) GP40 and F45. Cut the long hood off of both, and attach (and modify as nessicary) the F45's long hood to the GP40s cab front. Vice-versa for the GP40WH-2.
Oh, and BTW, the F45 cowls were used in the building of the GP40FH-2s. There is a HUGE difference between those and the GP40PH-2s (As and Bs included).
Well, where would you get the parts to extend your Bachmann one into an F40PH-2CAT?
I got word that my F45 has shipped today, so it should be here in 2-3 days. (from standard hobby in New Jersey). And no, I won't let this one become one of the NJTs GP40PH-2 or a MARC GP40WH-2. (The cab of several BN F45s got used for the GP40WH, and the cowl body from several of them got used for GP40PH-2s)
If I read something right, it has an operating beacon already. Either way, I'll be putting beacons on my SD45s as well. If they operate on the F45, then I'll have to get some fiber optic stuff to get the ones on my SD45 and U30C to operate.
That F40PH-2CAT sounds awesome. Post a picture when you're done.
I have always used decals, don't like the look of handwritten.
I would never ever ever get one of those things. The thought of it disgusts me. I went to a train show (a long time ago, I don't even know when the last time I've been to one was, but I hope to go in March) and got a Fsomething, got it home, didn't even move. Except for Proto stuff, Life Like is horrible. But since Walthers bought it out, its gotten better.
And like I would pay for something where the shipping is 8.1 times the value of the actual item.
Actually, I'm happy with my Bachmann one. Although it lacks strobes, it has flush windows, directional headlights, all grab irons in correct places, nice grilles, and a cab interior. Only wish it had strobes. But I'm rebuilding it into a F40PH-2CAT. It involves extending the shell, adding ditch lights, using decals for numbers (as opposed to a sharpie and 9 year old handwriting ), getting a new fuel tank, installing a Kand maybe, if I get to it, strobes wouldn't be a bad idea.
Packer Joe, stay away from the $1 F40. I had one of those (in UP), it's the Life-like trainset crap with one truck powered and one truck for pickup.
Joe, stay away from the $1 F40. I had one of those (in UP), it's the Life-like trainset crap with one truck powered and one truck for pickup.
Agreed. I started out with a trainset with that in it. It worked for 5 weeks, and would only pull 6 cars. STAY AWAY! Do yourself a favor.
MadSinger
Joe, stay away from the $1 F40. I had one of those (in UP), it's the Life-like trainset crap with one truck powered and one truck for pickup. However the shell is more accurate than the Bachmanns, and the shell can be mounted to a modified athearn GP40 frame:
http://www.ppw-aline.com/frppwf40ph.htm
http://www.ppw-aline.com/bdllf40ph.htm
I believe that the Horizons were based of the CIIs, so they're similar. Also, if you're doing modern stuff, those CIs will soon be outdated. I believe that there are 3 trainsets running (solid CI) and one I'm not sure if it's still in service or out.
Thanks for the link to the F40. I would get it (great price) but I can't get anything (I already asked about something from Walthers) until my mom gets paid. And the ALP is too expensive anyway
Or there's always this F40!!! Direct from the seller: "The model test ran poorly with a working headlight, and is very noisy and shows wheel wear." $1 sounds like a great deal!
It's a walthers horizon, those cars look like C I's partially and C II's partially... The old Spectrums are not DCC ready but it is possible to install a decoder. I mean 5104... Oops! The ALP-44 on Ebay is from the same seller as the F40.
Here is an NJT F40http://cgi.ebay.com/BACHMANN-HO-TRAIN-EMD-F40PH-NJ-TRANSIT-87026_W0QQitemZ350156063707QQcmdZViewItemQQptZModel_RR_Trains?hash=item350156063707&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50I bought my second F40 from these guys and am very happy with it.
Bapou: Are those actually Comet Is, or are they Walthers horizons? I haven't been able to find Horizons in, like, forever!!! I would rebuild them into CIIMs. And BTW, 4104 is not a CI. Actually, it's not even a C anything, its a GP40PH-2!
I was almost going to buy this F40PH on ebay for $10, until I saw this: Not DCC Ready
I was planning on just rebuilding in into a F40PH-2CAT, which is what I am doing with the one I already have. I would repaint it as NJT 4115, but now I'm not going to buy it. Make sure you ALWAYS read all the information before you buy something!!!
I picked up 2 more NJT Comets on eBay and decaled and added diaphragms to all of the cars I had previously (I had 3, 1 cabs with diaphragms and decals 1 cab with diaphragms and a coach with decals) My full fleet is now partially complete, cab 4104 needs more decals and it didn't turn out too well. My fleet is now 4 cabs and 1 coach...
Cab 4104
Full train with 4104 leading
5104 and 5122 each lead trains
Enjoy!
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(copying a few posts of mine from nscale.org):
Just starting this thread to share a few ideas.After thinking about what I want out of this hobby, I realized that what I enjoy the most is getting, weathering,m and possibly painting locomotives and rolling stock and watching them run through scenery that really complements them. And what scenery complements them the most?Appalachian Mountains in the summer.I've been thinking about the Clinchfield RR in particular. This would not be a prototype layout, but rather, loosely based on the Clinchfield (still custom scheme and such).I'm thinking of saying that it's a line that runs from Spartanburg, SC, to Knoxville, Tenn. The Southern had a line that runs part of the way of my line, but who says that my RR didn't get to that area first?The layout would be an around the walls one and its sole purpose is to watch the trains roll on a double track main-line. 2% grade, and to get around the window and doors, I'll have a tunnel entrance on each side, and let the line run on a lift-out board across the space between the portals. Staging yard, yes.There may be a gravel pit on the layout (like what was in this month's MR), and there will be two or three branches that split off the line and go into tunnels.Traffic: Coal and bridge traffic (boxcars, hoppers, etc.).It is a bridge line that hauls interchange from the Southern and L&N in Knoxville to the Clinchfield in Spartanburg, crossing NC.Major yards: Spartanburg (SC), Knoxville(TENN), and Asheville & Hendersonville (NC). The line follows the southern line from Spartanburg to Asheville, then splits across to Knoxville. However, like I said, my RR got there first.As I develop a track plan and gather rolling stock, this thread will become for that (I'll change the title then too). Also, I'll be building a small mountain layout with a single track mainline and a passing siding (and a branch that goes into a tunnel) on a 2' shelf in my room, which will be practice for this big layout. This thread will also be for that when it comes.Yes, I am nuts, by the way. N scale nuts!!!!
Actually, the only yard will be a dual 3 track staging yard; 3 for east, 3 for west. No yards (or for that matter, industries) to be spoken of on the main, just a few portions where branch lines branch off (I'm thinking two or three). I might add a coal mine where one branch branches off (it'll branch off at a window entrance, then continue into the room for the mine).Still need to draw up a sketch of the plan.I was talking about the actual railroad system. Sorry, it's my fault for the confusion. I'll probably be getting 2 SD35s, an SD40, and a pair of F units at some point for this layout, along with plenty of coal hoppers and boxcars . The first thing will probably be a pack of 30 bulk code 55 flex from modeltrainstuff.com though, and a few turnouts. When will i get the money for that, I have no idea.
Don't kill me please.
Tyler, thanks for the idea. However, I'm not exactly sure about restarting. There is a 30" space between one edge and a doorway. In this space, I would add a 30X48 extension. I would add a straight track for the station (longer platform and wouldn't block both the main track and the passing siding while commuter trains stop. The main would be the diverging track of the switch, and would continue west to Scranton. The station track would end at the proposed table edge. Although a stub ended track wouldn't be normal, there is currently no passenger service west of Watchinson, so it wouldn't be a problem. There would be another track next to it which would serve as an Arrival/Departure track, where I could place a cut of cars that would be dropped off and later picked up by the manifest. I have decided on only one manifest. It would depart from Oak Island, travel west, drop a cut of cars in town, and go to Scranton. Later, another train would depart Scranton, pick up cars in town, and continue to OI. The staging yard would divert on the other end of the table. I was orignally thinking about just adding 3'10" towards the fireplace, but apparently it's not safe. Since my dad's an architect and knows all the fire codes and such, I will talk to him later about it.
I know this is really hard to picture. Does anyone know of a program or whatever where I could sketch my plan? It would be easier to visualize so you guys would be able to figure out what I'm saying.
Ty, you need some used CWR to put down...Even Fingerlakes Railway has it!
Anyways... Your railroad is a trainwreck, and need to be fixedededed...
Yeah, I think I'm only going to do the Stude-Dooley siding area and possibly into West Formanek and WRJ if I have enough roadbed. Only the Stude/Dooley area need new flextrack, so I'm going to figure out exactly how much I need so I don't buy too much.
Joe; if you're willing to try something drastic, you might try redoing your layout too. I like the idea of the staging yard extension, and if you take up all the current track and adopt a plan more suited to point-to-point operation (with a continuous run option) then you might be a lot happier with your layout. If you get us a list of stuff you need to be incorporated, as well as some more detailed info on how wide and long your staging yard section is, we can come up with a track plan for you.
I have a lot of Atlas Code 100 sectional track that is soldered (like flextrack except not flexible...) which you can use for the staging yard and other areas. I also have some soldered 22" curve sections which you can use. I reused all the switches for the yard, but the sectional track is surplus and works fine (none on the short little filler sections that were my problem) I'll mail as much track as you want (and I can fit in an old cork roadbed box) to you if you pay for shipping. Send me a PM if you're interested.