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Good morning everyone everyone. Coffee and a buttered roll please.
Jim and everyone- I am going to use this pic as a example of how I weather my structures.I think I already described how I did the Pennsy hopper but I can cover that later.
I built this from DPM wall sections. Someone, I forget who itwas mentioned that some interest was added because the pilasters were uneven. Not so. DPM wall sections are all the same size.If you look at the photo the building is not sitting square,part of the left wall is showing which could be creating an illusion,also the rear wall is not straight-it's curved. Anyway enough of that.
This method I found in an old issue of MR.Once the building is complete,door and windows installed,I paint the entire building doors and windows as well with Quaker Gray acrylic craft paint. I use Delta Ceramcoat.Once this is dry I come back with Adobe Red which I thin slightly (the whole bottle) and paint the brick work. It' OK if some of the gray shows through. It will add some character to the piece.Next paint the doors and windows however you want. Let this dry. Next,in an old dish make a dilute solution of black.Working a couple of sections at a time brush on the black (if it seems to be too thin just add more black to your solution) and then begin to wipe it off with a paper towel until it looks good to you.Continue until entire building is complete. At this point what I do is using the same paper towel I go back and add some heavier streaks of black. The towel is saturated with the black so it is ideal for this purpose. Let the buildind dry. You can then go back and add other weathering colors to finish it up. For new looking rust I use Terra Cotta and for darker rust Brown Iron Oxide. I might add that I also have the roof installed prior to starting the weathering that way you won't run the risk of getting any cement on the building. With the roof what I usually do is this- once the roof is done and cut to size I spray it with either Floquil Rail Brown or Reefer Gray. The roof gets only the black wash and perhaps some rust if it is a metal roof.If it's a wood roof how you paint it is up to you.
In the words of the Myth Busters (paraphrased) PLEASE!! don't try this on one of your good buildings. Put together a DPM wall set and experiment with the technique.Remember-if you don't like the way it looks just take an old tooth brush and run the building under warm water and scrub the paint off and try again (been there-done that!) The final step once you get the building to where it looks good is to add any details you want and then spray it with Dull Coat because even when the paint is dry I have found that if you scrape it against something like a finger nail the paint has a tendency to come off. The Dull Coat prevents this.
Good luck and if I can be of any further help please let me know. I'd be more that happy to help you out in any way I can.
NJ Bob
Hello ....
No lunch menu, yet, but that's okay. I'll try one of those Santa Fe Omeletts from Bill T's breakfast menu............ and also some Tim Horton's coffee .....and also of Ed's manderin OJ.
I headed to the layout room for more work on the expansion.
Have fun.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
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Somebody asked for the lunch specials menu.....sorry for being late....Sunday ya know....
Here is todays Lunch and Diner Specials
Soup du Jour ~
$2.95/3.95
Chicken and Sausage Gumbo
From the Grill ~
$8.95
Western & Pacific Sugar Cured Ham Steak
Diner Special ~
CB&Q Mountain Trout
Blue Plate Special ~
$4.95
Southern Pacific Garden Salad Bowl
Dessert ~
$2.95
Great Northern Gingerbread Crumb Pudding
BTW...great modeling and photos you guys have done of late!
The Great Train Expo was a good show, spent about 2 hours there yesterday. I will provide more details on the show later, but the highlights here for now:
Picked up a FRED EOT device for HO with installation kit.
Great N scale domino layout on display and a tree making clinic too that was fun.
Picked up some nice tools too, a couple clamps and a pair of digital calipers too!
Cheers,
Ryan
Ryan BoudreauxThe Piedmont Division Modeling The Southern Railway, Norfolk & Western & Norfolk Southern in HO during the merger eraCajun Chef Ryan
Happy Birthday, Fergie.
Please pour him some coffee to go with the cake.
Sue
Anything is possible if you do not know what you are talking about.
gear-jammer wrote: DITTO!!! Doggone it, my popup blocker wont let me use the smileys. Wish you the best, Fergie. Many Happy returns of the day.Flip Happy Birthday, Fergie. Please pour him some coffee to go with the cake.Sue
DITTO!!! Doggone it, my popup blocker wont let me use the smileys. Wish you the best, Fergie. Many Happy returns of the day.
Flip
Happy Birthday, Fergie ........
On the discussion of removing paint from tops of rails..... The bight boy idea works well for me also. I do speed things up, though. Prior to using the bright boy, I use an ordinary putty knife to scrape off most of the paint. Then I follow up with the birght boy.
Ryan .. thanks for posting the menu.
Cox 47 wrote:Jeff....Passenger Train looks great..Did you find more decal paper?...
***HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Fergie!
in a SANTA FE mug and the CB&Q Mountain Trout, please & thank you.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Fergie!
Going to work awhile then tonight resume cleaning in the dungeon. Have a great day all.
Rob
From me too. Fergie, you old Pirate. And happy sailing as well. I hope it isn't as rough this time for you as it was before Christmas.
Johnboy out........
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Thank goodness the "Wobbly" doesn't sail.. ( railway barges don't count)
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We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Good Afternoon Coffee Clubbers,
A beautiful Sunday afternoon down here in Paradise. It's about 60º and overcast, so it's very comfortable. Supposedly the temperature will drop a bit over the next couple of days. We'll see. I'm hoping it gets cold enough that I can use a sweater.
It's not really cold, but it is a big football Sunday, so I have a mess of my chili going in the slow cooker. Should be ready just about now. I'll have a big bowl as I cheer for the NY Giants against the Cowboys.
Packers looked very strong. I love games in the snow or mud. Patriots looked like always, good enough to win. 17 - 0 is an impressive run. I was surprised when the Colts lost just now. Hard to believe that Manning couldn't come up with one last winning drive.
Fergie - Happy Birthday young fellow!! Many happy returns.
The thought of getting older is troubling.
Back to "The Rock" again? Should be just ‘loverly' at this time of year.
Rob: My question: is a layout in a dusty room better than no layout???
When layouts become completed and everything is glued down/fixed/sprayed/etc, do they become permanent enough to vacuum or us a blower on them for removing dust?
CG Jim - congrats on the new car. I'm sure you'll enjoy driving it after what you've been dealing with. Good luck rearranging the budget to squeeze out that extra $$ each month.
What's "licensure" and how will it affect your work?
Paul B - glad to hear the diseasel is back in operation. Is your steamer still over at the club? Have you fired that up lately? Is the meet still scheduled for the last weekend in April?
NJ Bob - thanks for the painting / weathering tips.
That's all for now. Have to concentrate on the game.
Later
Ed
The diner was on page two......
I'll try the WP ham, please. Thanks for the menu, Ryan.
Cheers.
Evening all,
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Happy Birthday Fergie!
For my brick paint I mixed pacemaker red and aged concrete, but I found a new trick, paint the building white, wash coat with mineral red, then second coat with Soo red. The corners and fancy brick work at the top tends to come out dingy looking in a random aged look.
DPM, I complained the M.T.ARMS hotel kit had a flimsy .040 plastic roof, well the C. Smith packing house has a 1/8" plastic roof, go figure. The merchants row II is progressing nicely, need to install windows and the roof.
I downloaded a REGISTRATION AND ABSENTEE BALLOT REQUEST - FEDERAL POST CARD APPLICATION (FPCA) if anyone needs a copy I can send it to you.
Lee
BM1 Lee Soule USCG (ret) L.S.&W Railroad Serving the Lower Great Lakes
Evening Gang:
Happy Birthday Fergie. Fair winds and a following sea Wednesday.
Ed: A Giant fan eh. Well I guess you're happy right about now. Yes the meet is the last weekend in April. Actually folks will be arriving by the weekend before and we will be running by Wednesday. I hope that you can ake it. The steam locomotive is still over at the tract as is the diesel. I still don't have a place here to keep them inside.
The baby is still doing all right. John and Dianne are going to the hospital tonight.
Well I guess I'll head for bed. Mary Ann and I are going to watch Commanche Moon tonight if we can stay awake.
Good Night All
Good Evening All,
I'll just have a coffee and an english muffin please. I'll go easy so the reest of you lot can have your usual nightcaps and snacks on me. My where has all the time gone? Can't believe it's Sunday evening already. Been frantic in the shop working on the new entry area, getting parts to keep jobs on track and just generally going nuts. Had two doctors appointments and they went ok though they changed my meds around and ordered some more testing. Also getting ready to start our elememtary school introduction to model railroading course again 3d and 4th graders - a six week after school program that had a lot of interest last year. This we do through the museum.
The pictures you have all posted are great. Jeffs' passenger cars and steam power are really coming along. The cracking Jeff is usually from not getting the plastic clean enough before painting - a common problem with rattle can jobs. On the other hand we have several older 1:1 cars that have been repainted multiple times that look just like that. A little grime and rust and you'll be prototypical!
The weathering jobs look great as well. As for painting track, I shoot it with a rattle can or my old Badger air brush and then wipe the rail tops with a cloth and denatured alcohol. Any alcohol that gets on the ties gives them a chalky weathered look. I usually use rail tie brown, roof brown, or ruddy brown primer for the rails.
If you're going to try vacuuming the layout, make sure you used lots of glue for the ballast and scenery or it'll vanish. If you do give it a try, see if you can get an old nylon to put over the nozzle end in order to capture any small bits that get sucked up despite your best efforts and yes remember to put away the ballast dish and spoon before company comes over. Computer cleaning attachments can come in handy also.
Happy Birthday to Fergie - and sir didn't you want to put the Christmas decorations away before repairing the wiring?
Best wishes and prayers for those in need. We are now waiting for our predicted 8 - 14" of snow to fall. And speaking of falling, How About Those Cowboys now? The Giants have played the last couple of games so well that I have to keep pinching myself to make sure I'm not dreaming. And yes the win by the Packers was good (sorry Sue and Hoople). Hopefully the snow will hold off and we'll get to make our trip to the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens tomorrow to pick up the surplus G Gage stuff for the museum. The next coupl;e of weeks should be busy as well with a trip to Philly this weekend (hopefully on the Acela) and then the Amherst train show the weekend after that. Gotta run that coffee hit the spot. Seey'all, J.R.
Good evening Diners: Chloe, I'll have a couple of those little nsa mincemeat tarts with whipped cream to go with my medium JR Regular please. (Thanks Rob!) The Mountain Trout looks good, if I stay that long.
NJBob:
How do you clean the tops of the rail after painting them?
Thanks for the building weathering tips. I've got that into WORD, and filed in my Trains folder.
Rob:
***Der, every time I read about this or that problem someone is having with DCC, it gives me a reason to stick with the old DC. Hope you solve the problem soon.
The reason it stopped was that I have an Atlas "Twin" switch that is permanently set to route power to the layout and also manage power to a stationary decoder. This decoder handles the polarity for both of my reverse loops at once. The Twin was installed to do the same thing for the DC phase of the layout's history, and I kept it on "permanently set" rather than uninstall it when I set up the stationary decoder with the DCC.
What had happened is that while I was busy ballasting the upper level yard, I must have brushed against one of the Twin's slide switches, nudging it up to a neutral position, and killing power to the layout in the process!
Now in the mean time, I thought that I would have to delve deeply beneath the layout shelves to follow the wiring and check everything out. To do that with any clarity meant clearing a few years of accumulated stuff that had a covered up my workbench. (That's why I've been using my computer keyboard shelf for a lot of my mrr! )
So today I spent my afternoon clearing away all the junk, getting the wanted stuff packed in labeled containers, and (gasp) washing down the workbench! The result is amazing. I've got back the space I planned to have in the first place, am keen to do some building, and thrilled to have found the switch thing quickly, on my first follow up of the power wiring. Here's the bench.
Speaking of building, when it comes to scratch building my city, and other structures I will need generally, I've found a source of FREE sheet styrene. Check this out. These are the advertising signs over the pumps at your neighbourhood friendly gas stations. Just be sure that they are the plastic sheet, not the corrugated plastic. As you can see from the yard stick, these four signs are quite an area (over ¼ million square feet in N Scale! )
Now, if only the roller for the track cleaner would show up before I make another from some moldable weight material that has been sitting in a drawer waiting to be used....it won't show up until after I've done that, you know it, and I know it, but a lad can dream!
QUESTION: When layouts become completed and everything is glued down/fixed/sprayed/etc, do they become permanent enough to vacuum or us a blower on them for removing dust?
Lee:
I normally give the rail a quick pass with the black then hit here or there with the rust while the black is still tacky.
Jeff:
There's some cracking going on with this one. I don't know whether I should repair it or leave it as it is.
Time to go. all, and God Bless. Prayers for all in need of healing, comfort and peace.
"There are always alternatives, Captain" - Spock.
Jeff I would leave the cracks in the passenger car it looks so real as you couldn't ask for a better realism look.
Evening all another fun day at work today . Yeah right lol.
not to much happening here so just a quick stop in to say hi talks to you all later
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Evening, Janie - could I have that SP garden salad and the mountain trout, please? Thanks.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet (in the talk about weathering track), but I seem to recall some Kalmbach book and/or MR issue said (before painting) to coat the top of the rails with oil. That was supposed to make it easier to clean it off afterwards. Anyone else remember that?
Hey, Fergie - and a safe and smooth voyage.
JR, it might be that Fergie is considering putting the Christmas decorations somewhere other than under the layout, after his last go-round with that (MESS)tm...
DerJohn, I'm not sure what you meant on the idea for Colby's layout. He'd need two more turnouts to have a passing track, and it'd seem like to even out the S-curve, he'd have to change that left-hand one to a right-hand one to keep the industry siding he has in the upper right corner. Or sketch me a picture of what you mean and scan it in to upload, maybe.
Got cold here today, currently 28 F (-2 C) with a bit of bite to the wind because of it (5 mph WSW). Might be more of that white stuff for those east of me in a couple or three days when the next front comes through. Johnboy, you know you don't have to share all of your weather with us, right?
NJ Bob, thanks for the structure weathering tips. I think your Mythbusters paraphrase was most appropriate.
Time for me to polish off my food .
Blessings,
Jim in Cape Girardeau
Evening all. It was my pleasure to share my weathering tips with you. Like I said if you have any questions feel free to ask. If you can improve on it,I hope you do. What works for me may not always work for you and you may find something that does. All I can say is have fun with it and don't be too fussy with it.
Here's one last pic I'd like to share. The crane is scratchbuilt. The flatcar is 30' long,it was 40' but I took 10' out of the center. The crane is not attached as yet because I don't know what direction it will be facing. It is meant to be used in an industry of team track area. NJ Bob
Howdy everyone.
Snowing out now, this must be the weather JimRC warned us about, it took it's own sweet time getting here. Of course, it could have waited another 15-20 years and I really wouldn't have minded that much.
PaulB- sure is great to hear the baby is doing well, but I really didn't expect anything else. Like I said, it sounds like she comes from hardy stock. OTOH, I have been trying to picture those DL-109's pulling a taconite drag freight, just can't get my mind to wrap around that one!
Fergie-Happy B Day! I read with interest your post about how many years ago bouy tending was one of the top ten dangerous jobs NOB, I have it from a good source that it was knocked off the list by being a Sales Rep for the MESS!
JeffreyW- Our local W-Mart put it out that there wasn't enough sales of fabric, and they were considering doing away with that dept, but we have a large Amish population locally and the womenfolk would hear none of it! ( It's always fun to point out the covered hitching posts to friends from the big city!) They still have the fabric section. And a weak but not totally lame model section. Your cars came out fine, look great, so I'd say let W Mart do what they want, you seem to be quite capable of adapting and overcoming!
FoulRift- Again, excellent work! Don't you just love the freedom DPM gives you? I really enjoy laying out a bunch of wall sections and moving them here and there like a puzzle until a building takes shape. Again, good work!
I e- mailed silverspike the two pics Amyjo took of the NS engines, and he actually received them!!! Maybe there's still some hope for me to crash into the 20th Century, even though it will be a hundred years too late.
Well, going over to a site Ed told me about, TrainBoard, to see what is going on there. Take care, all!
Good Morning from Tipton IN !
Bill Tidler Jr.
Near a cornfield in Indiana...
Good morning from Euclid, Ohio.
Today: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 34. Breezy, with a west wind around 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible. Tonight: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a low around 29. West wind around 17 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. Tuesday: Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 33. West wind between 13 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. Snowing pretty hard now, must be 2" outside since the lawn is covered.
FoulRift, the crane looks good. Can you attach the crane with a small nut and bolt? Maybe cut down a pop bottle cap as the base to give you that gear look on the bottom? I need to invite you over for a few weeks; I have 110 hopper cars I need tricked out and KDees installed, LOL!
I Hope everyone has a good day,
Good morning, Zoe - a cup of the TH and one of Bill T.'s chocolate donuts, plus a glass of Ed's OJ, please.
Thanks!
philnrunt wrote: Snowing out now, this must be the weather JimRC warned us about, it took it's own sweet time getting here. Of course, it could have waited another 15-20 years and I really wouldn't have minded that much.
Now, Philnrunt, I never said I was a real weatherguesser - where is Dave V. when you need him? Our weather guy this morning said that some Illinois areas across the river from Cape got a dusting of snow this morning already. Guess that was the storm that you got for today, huh?
NJ Bob, love that crane! Will you have a boom car for it? I picked up a boom car for my MOW crane (which I still have to get) at a train show a bit back. You do good work!
Paul, I'd second Philnrunt's comments on your granddaughter coming from good stock). She's definitely not a wimpy baby, nosiree! And have you given her that engineer's cap yet?
Better finish up my coffee and get going. See everyone later today!
Morning folks!
Well we dipped into the below freezing mark again, weather guessers were way off once again! IT was 26° F this morning in the back yard when the dogs went outside.
Cederstrand wrote: ***Ryan, like the sound in that clip. Have you ever watched any of the shows with Chef Ramsey? Those kitchen nightmares are a riot.Beautiful day here. Off to do critter rounds. Rob
***Ryan, like the sound in that clip. Have you ever watched any of the shows with Chef Ramsey? Those kitchen nightmares are a riot.
Beautiful day here. Off to do critter rounds. Rob
Yes Rob, Chef Ramsey is a riot; he tells it like it is huh! And some of the people who run those restaurants are complete fools, have no training or previous experience, it is amazing that they are able to sustain a business too! Believe me I have seen a few real kitchen nightmares and they are no fun to work in at all!
Ya done good Jeff, the excursion train is coming along nicely. Are those Walthers Pullmans?
Dang, I missed Flip again! Hey there Flip!
Sorry about the fan extraction Der John, sounds like it was a bang head headache!
Happy Belated Birthday Fergie!
Thanks Jim for the comments on the video! The camera I use for video is not the best, but for me it gets the job done. And congratulations on the new car purchase, Ford Taurus are nice, we rented them a few times for vacations and always was impressed with them, and I remember them having some good trunk space too! I always wondered about those scratch off mailings for local dealerships, thanks for the heads up on how they work out!
Hey Paul, speaking of 7.5, there was a 7.5 coal fired steamer on display at the GTE this past weekend, took a photo if it and will post it soon. Maybe you or Duke might recognize some of the folks in the background. Thanks for the review of the movie, going to have to see it now!
LSWrr wrote: http://image53.webshots.com/553/0/77/17/2142077170029441264YPgXNo_fs.jpgI just found out my Norton decided to block almost everyone, I think I have it fixed. First thing in the morning I'll catch up on my email and replyLee
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I just found out my Norton decided to block almost everyone, I think I have it fixed. First thing in the morning I'll catch up on my email and reply
Hey Lee, that image link you have is still locked down; I keep getting a forbidden access error message.
Heartland Division CBandQ wrote: The diner was on page two...... I'll try the WP ham, please. Thanks for the menu, Ryan.Cheers.
You are very welcome Garry! As a matter of fact I looked up some more menu items from my two railroad cookbooks "Dinner in the Diner" and "Dining by Rail" and have come up with some good ole fashioned railroad fare for the next couple week's menus.
Nice tips from Lee and NJBob and others who have added info on weathering structures and painting rails, and cleaning up loose scenery materials.
Today's Trackside Diner Lunch and Dinner Specials
Chesapeake and Ohio Oyster Bisque
Great Northern Combination Grill with beef tenderloin, veal kidney, lamp chop
Missouri Pacific Southern Fried Chicken
Monon Italian Spaghetti
Illinois Central Old Fashioned Raisin Pudding
Hey! Good Morning!
Woke up to a light dusting of snow. Didn't bother me any, but it would seem that quite a few drivers around here still haven't gotten the hang of it yet. The roads were littered with accidents. Hope nobody got hurt.
Well, another weekend flew by. I don't know where those things go, but they sure do go there quickly! Be nice if I could figure out how to slow their progress, ya know?
Wife is getting around better all the time. It's good, because she was getting SO sick of being in bed all the time. It was beginning to drive her mad I think. Now she can get around a little bit though. She can go anywhere in the house or my daughter can drive her places. She just can't drive herself yet.
I have class tonight. I tell ya, I'm getting so burnt out on class. I know I have to keep going......the finish line is in sight, but I'm just not really interested in these classes. They're just to fill up elective classes, I know, and it's good stuff to know. It's just that this is the boring side of what I should know when I graduate. Oh well, I soldier on...........
Happy belated to Fergie BTW!
So what's going on with you today?
SilverSpike wrote:Ya done good Jeff, the excursion train is coming along nicely. Are those Walthers Pullmans?
jeffrey-wimberly wrote: SilverSpike wrote:Ya done good Jeff, the excursion train is coming along nicely. Are those Walthers Pullmans? I wish! Those are Athearn BB heavyweights and they're all scale weighted.
They sure look nice... pitty they wouldn't look good on my 18" curves
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OzarkBelt wrote: jeffrey-wimberly wrote: SilverSpike wrote:Ya done good Jeff, the excursion train is coming along nicely. Are those Walthers Pullmans? I wish! Those are Athearn BB heavyweights and they're all scale weighted.They sure look nice... pitty they wouldn't look good on my 18" curves
Good morning.Today's Weather for: Sundown, LA 71446-6114 1/14/2008Wind Chill: 35°FHumidity: 87%Dew Point: 31°FSo Far TodayHigh: 40°FLow: 33°FRain: 0.00"Rain Rate: 0.00"/hGust: 5mph NNE Today High: 62 Sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Light and variable winds. Tonight Low: 35 Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. Light and variable winds.Remember this?Here it is after a run through the paint shop.
Hey every one,
sorry that i have not talked to you guys in a long time....
Well, I am in a hurry. gotta go go to shool.....