richhotrain Sir Madog: ... but how much headroom do you have at the stub end, if your layout is set at a min. height of, say 42" ? If you look at antag's floor diagram that he posted yesterday, he notes a clearance of 46" from the floor to the underside of the stair. With a layout set at a 42" height, that leaves 4", take away 2" for the height of a car and you are left with 2". Rich
Sir Madog: ... but how much headroom do you have at the stub end, if your layout is set at a min. height of, say 42" ?
... but how much headroom do you have at the stub end, if your layout is set at a min. height of, say 42" ?
If you look at antag's floor diagram that he posted yesterday, he notes a clearance of 46" from the floor to the underside of the stair. With a layout set at a 42" height, that leaves 4", take away 2" for the height of a car and you are left with 2".
Rich
Then he must be either a midget, putting his layout at 20" or he plans to attend his staging yard through the stairs, either which one is most unlikely to work properly.
I wonder why he asking questions to the forum members, apparently he knows much better than the rest of us.
richhotrain Paulus Jas: six inches allows for a two track staging yard. It's up to the OP if this is sufficient. As is usual Howard does not respond to it. Nor does he with what Rich calls questionable space. Paul That is something that I notice with great regularity throughout this thread. Ideas are dismissed or barely responded to. If you go back and look at Paul's various layout plans, and it probably took a few hours at least to develop each one, the OP hardly pays them lip service. As I ask myself why I continue to follow this thread, my answer is a combination of amusement and morbid curiosity. Rich The Antagonized - LOL
Paulus Jas: six inches allows for a two track staging yard. It's up to the OP if this is sufficient. As is usual Howard does not respond to it. Nor does he with what Rich calls questionable space. Paul
six inches allows for a two track staging yard. It's up to the OP if this is sufficient. As is usual Howard does not respond to it. Nor does he with what Rich calls questionable space.
Paul
That is something that I notice with great regularity throughout this thread. Ideas are dismissed or barely responded to. If you go back and look at Paul's various layout plans, and it probably took a few hours at least to develop each one, the OP hardly pays them lip service.
As I ask myself why I continue to follow this thread, my answer is a combination of amusement and morbid curiosity.
Rich The Antagonized - LOL
Starting an HO Layout. I live in Oshawa, Ontario, CanadaI in Spitting distance to the CN/CP/Via/GO transit tracks. I have always been a fan of steam, and of early diesel so naturally I will be modeling somewhere between 1941 -1960. I have a decent sized space to work with roughley 150 sqft.Now here in lies my need for help. My friends and I who will be operating this layout have the need for lots of switching and industries to haul freight to and from, as well as a yard to sort and prepare the strings of cars to be moved.But. My wife has the need for simplicity of a continuous loop so she can just set the turnouts and flick a switch and the train will do circuits while she is doing the laundry.
As for scenery I can look in my backyard and see what it looks like now but to do a model between 1941 and 1960 I need to find pictures and route maps, As well as some ideas of what industries where being served by these rails during that time.Well that’s all I can think of right now.Any suggestions?Thank you in advanceHoward.
this was my first post in it i asked specifically what industries where around in this area at that time . and if anyone knew where to find pictures of this area during this time.after that i got some great advice and then i posted my first idea in which i was told i was a fool. fine im a fool.maybe when im done fleshing out my plans i will take some pictures of my space so everyone can clearly see what im talking about. I assume this will take some time maybe a week maybe more but i will post my plans regardless if you agree or disagree or even if you wish to bash the ideas or to help and make suggestionsHoward
Antag2002 Starting an HO Layout. I live in Oshawa, Ontario, CanadaI in Spitting distance to the CN/CP/Via/GO transit tracks. I have always been a fan of steam, and of early diesel so naturally I will be modeling somewhere between 1941 -1960. I have a decent sized space to work with roughley 150 sqft.Now here in lies my need for help. My friends and I who will be operating this layout have the need for lots of switching and industries to haul freight to and from, as well as a yard to sort and prepare the strings of cars to be moved.But. My wife has the need for simplicity of a continuous loop so she can just set the turnouts and flick a switch and the train will do circuits while she is doing the laundry. As for scenery I can look in my backyard and see what it looks like now but to do a model between 1941 and 1960 I need to find pictures and route maps, As well as some ideas of what industries where being served by these rails during that time.Well that’s all I can think of right now.Any suggestions?Thank you in advanceHoward.
The only actual question you asked was "Any suggestions?"
You didn't specifically ask for pictures or where to find them, nor even for specific layout ideas, although since you did say "here in lies my need for help" followed by your desire for operating ans switching with a "But" your wife wants a continuous loop - it's natural that people would assume you were looking for layout advice.
I think you may have been too general. Do you want layout advice? Do you want advice on where to find info about industries / pictures from a particular era / area?
Did we jump the gun and were eager to offer advice you did not really want or need?
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Oh i do most def. need the help. I just dont need the negativity i think as i said will wait till i have a concrete plan in hand before i ask for help or more advice.there are lots of threads i can creep and learn stuff from and the more i get into this book by armstrong the more and more im understanding.i do remember however that you do not live far fom me. (Oshawa for me). Do you know of any train shows in our area on in the near future?
i think they would be a great source of in person understanding of HO layouts.Thank you to everyone for there help suggestions and advice.I most likely wont be posting for a bit as i have a tonne of materials and ideas to work with to come up with a plan, a track plan and an idea about how it all should operate.Howard
I think I have said before that when I first came here seeking advice I felt some of the feedback was negative, but it has been invaluable to me. Paul was pretty blunt and I thought negative, but he has taken a lot of time and given me feedback that has saved me a ton of re-work.
I found that by being patient, showing a willingness to listen, and do the work on my end to keep posting a detailed updated layout helped a lot.
The first layout I posted was pretty much laughed off the forum. That's always tough to take, but looking back at it now - I would say the same thing. It was a combination of my inability to use Atlas RTS and not understanding how things all work together. I am getting better at using RTS and understand railroad operation much better. Certainly there are some books that were also a great help.
Seriously - take a read of my original thread here.
The next train show in our area is Feb 19 & 20 at Bradford Greenhouses in Barrie - Hwy 27 & Hwy 90.
I went last year and it was a good show. I'll be going again this year.
Also in November there is a great tour of people's layouts in the Guelph area - it is well worth it.
Howard,
I have been following this thread and I am sorry to see that it has developed a certain touch to it which it should not have. I also shot out a snipe.
We have some folks in here who combine more railroad operation knowledge and track planning expertise than you´d ever find in a book. They are all very helpful and willing to dedicate hours of their time to assist you in developing your track plan. The key word is "assist" they won´t be doing it for you - how could they, without knowing what you have in mind?
It is worthwhile listening to their comments, even if they appear to be a little rough!
Hmm, ok this thing has gone 9 pages, and you still don't have a solid plan? WOW!
Michael
CEO- Mile-HI-RailroadPrototype: D&RGW Moffat Line 1989
One thing you should do differently in the future is start a new thread if you have a question. Coming in on the 9th page with a new topic just confuses people and they may think they're answering the original thread the've been following. Also starting a new thread allows you to keep track of answers to your specific questions.
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