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Posted by ChiefEagles on Monday, December 5, 2011 10:34 AM

Morning.  Took VA. buddy to the Perry's Gun store.  He was amazed.  AT THE HIGH PRICES.  Yet there was a constant stream of idoits coming in and out all the time.

Now for County Commissioners.  Then Town Board and get re-sworn in.  On the way to the lake house late tonight. 

Neighbor who had bone marrow transplant drove home yesterday.  Went back but says he will be home Wednesday or Thursday [he hopes and I hope].   

8N, did that dinning room table thing the first year the Polar Express came out.  Had just gotten home from by-passes.  Wifey felt sorry for me.  Now when I mention it, she throws the frying pan at me. Surprise

Jack, now they are talking about taking floride out of the water.  Suppose to be harmful. SadTongue TiedHuh?

Later.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Monday, December 5, 2011 9:58 AM

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RockIsland -  Did you mean this surveilence pic...?

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Fife..........somehow you and Brent look better in this photo than what I remember. Whistling

KEV.....let me first say I am adamantly opposed to letting my grandchildren play out on the highway.  Wink 

But the problem around my house today with my grandchildren is overkill with overprotection and over-childproofing.  Like putting those plastic outlet covers on the electrical outlets.  Putting the foam padding on the sharper edges of the furniture and on the edge of the fireplace hearth brick. 

Now I can understand we don't want the kiddies taking a tumble down a flight of stairs, getting into some chemicals under a sink or in a low lying cabinet, pulling an entertainment center down on themselves, letting themselvles out of the house undetected, leaving them unsupervised with a dog, jumping into the fireplace and becoming toast, or burning themselves on a stove burner. 

But at some point the child has to learn from what they are told and from experience, the hard way.  Otherwise, they just tune out everything Mom and Dad (or the grandparents) advise, and every warning or admonition takes on the same level of meaning or importance for them.  I think a parent or a grandparent has to pick their poisons, the less lethal ones.

A long time ago my sister and her husband left me in charge of my 7 year old nephew for a weekend while they went out of town.  I was a bachelor and had no experience with children..  

There was a 5' X 5' X 2.5 foot deep excavation hole behind my property for the installation of a drinking fountain in the park.  The hole and the pile of dirt and rocks was left unattended with some saw horses around them.  I was about 30 feet away cleaning up some weeds and garbage on the edge of my property and told my nephew he was NOT to play in the hole or with the dirt/rocks. 

I turned my back, and the next thing I know he comes a runnin', screaming with blood dripping from his hand.  

Inside my head I was understandably upset since I didn't know the extent of the injury, and this happened on my watch.  But on the outside I acted like it was no big deal.  Yup, he had smashed his fingers on some of the rocks doing exactly what I had told him not to do.  Trip to the emergency room. 

My Dad went with us and was non-plussed about the incident   Broken finger and a lost fingernail.  "Great learning experience for Nick." he observed.  Then it was time for my learning experience, and my Dad said to me  "Son, at some point children have to be given enough rope to be uncomfortable but not enough to hang themselves.  Don't lecture the kid.  He learned his lesson, and you have established some credibility with him."   

My nephew today has very young children of his own but fondly recalls that story to this day at family get-togethers, over three decades later.  But from that day forward he LISTENED to the things I warned him about.

Letting go is so difficult, letting our children or grandchildren make their own way and their own mistakes......letting them learn without getting too harmed in the process.  We have to pick our poisons when they are young, the non-lethal ones.  Getting concensus with this approach with my wife?  Not so easy. Bang Head

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Posted by rtraincollector on Monday, December 5, 2011 9:32 AM

Hey all

Doug M. Some have tried the bullfrog snott in place of the rubber tires. I know what you mean about different sizes as I have collection of the tires in about 3 different sizes I think there all mixedBang Head in my part boxes so when it comes time it will be fun finding the correct ones lol.

Jack shortly after getting married ( we were living in a mobile home) wife went out to do some yard work and while she did that I did a layout around the whole livingroom and down the hall to the far end and back again. She came in and our cats were chasing the train all she could do was laugh although she wasn't happy about the layout going down and back in the hall. it was funny as they woud chase it down the hall till the bend then it would chase them up the hall.

8N that is a nice layout.

Dennis I agree another train or 2 she won't know lol you could always ship them to chief or me and we send them to you laterWhistling not saying how much later either of us would send themSmile, Wink & Grin

Kev the other option to not having the kids move back in is the one my wife and I have taken never had kids lol

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Posted by Demay on Monday, December 5, 2011 9:09 AM

Konbanwa,

I had a nice 4-mile run this morning and I ventured off-base for about 2.5 miles of it.  It was a little cold when I started but it felt nice.  Since I started the run early there weren't too many people on the sidewalks.  The roads were crowded but fortunately the Japanese sidewalks on the main roads are wide enough to accommodate runners and cyclists.  I had a somewhat busy day at the office but nothing overwhelming.  The wife made sweet and sour chicken for dinner tonight and then we relaxed.  I just finished some schoolwork and it's time for bed.

Jack - The van we bought a few weeks ago is working out very well.  I am still searching for a car for me to use to get back and forth to work.  I'm not looking for anything too fancy.  Most people buy used cars here and drive the wheels off them.  We cannot take them back to the States with us so there isn't much use buying really nice cars.  I am only planning to spend a grand and I have two cars in mind now.

Dennis - It's a test from God. Angel Devil Smile, Wink & Grin

Doug M. - I'm glad James is back on track, literally.  Big Smile

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, December 5, 2011 9:00 AM

Good morning. It's 60° and wet with plenty of rain. The high will be lower at 57° and there will be plenty of rain. Chance of rain is at 70%.

I'm sitting here listening to the rain falling on my steel over roof. The sound is quite relaxing. Today I'll see if I can finish the cleanup on the layout. I couldn't do it yesterday as my back was screaming at me for some reason, probably those big packs of paper towels I brought in. I almost fell backward out the door when I was bringing them in. I only just saved myself from a nasty fall by locking my arms out to the sides so my elbows caught the door frame then fell to my left knee putting me over on my left side against the fridge. It still hurt but I prefer it to falling out the door and falling an additional two feet down the steps onto my back on that hard ground. I still had some bad twinges in my back last night but I feel better this morning. I just have a cut on my left elbow from the metal edge of the doorway. Today looks like a good day to get some rest as the weather makes any weathering work nearly impossible. I hope everyone else has a good day.

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Posted by cnw1995 on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:34 AM

 Aloha from a grey and cold Chicago. Looks like I feel. Ugh. Just a cold / flu bug I think / hope. Boy, the Bears looked terrible, Laz and Kev.  8n, PE layout looks grand.

I decided last night to tackle the traction tires on James - what a comedy of errors ! --- I successfully found the right socket connection; got the hex nut off, but worked on the wrong size tire; then tried other tires, other wheels - some lifted James high enough that his front wheels derailed, others made him wobble. Some were too big, some too small.  Finally put him back the way he was / is. And he runs fine. Serves me right.

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Posted by KRM on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:19 AM

Good morning!!,

Cloudy and chilly today. Done with the Christmas cards and will be off to the post office for stamps soon

Laz, I did a little squirrel hunting yesterday from the front porch as I had promised the neighbor I would get him one for coyote bait. I got nice fat red on the first shot. Problem is he limped up the tree and that is where he croaked. So the neighbor came over with his big ladder and we got him down and he went off to place him in the woods as bait. I will see how it went for him today.

Yes the Bears stink!

Rocklsland Jack, We lit a fire last night, forth this year. You are so correct about grandchildren needing to be taught the dangers, when we are not too busy to monitor things. Two years ago my granddaughter touched the glass doors on our fireplace. There was not much you could do after the fact but she won’t do that again. And on the son moves back in I have found you need to keep the kids just mad enough at you that they don’t want to come back home.   Laugh   It can be a fine line to walk.  Hmm

Roy, I sent you e-mail on the HVAC project with a question.

Guess I will head to town then get some parts for the HVAC project.

 later,

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Posted by sir james I on Monday, December 5, 2011 8:14 AM

Good Morning

37 and rain.

D>Grump we miss the Stattler's, always liked their music. While in Va. we use to stop at their HQ, but never got to see them there. As for the Lions it seems they defeat themselves with penalties. No big plans for the day...S.J.

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Posted by fifedog on Monday, December 5, 2011 7:34 AM

RockIsland -  Did you mean this surveilence pic...?

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Monday, December 5, 2011 7:12 AM

Sounds like both Rich and DougM are feeling under the weather......hope you guys both are feeling better today.  A busy time of year to catch something, bad timing, but I suppose it is better to get this crud out of the way now instead of getting an unpleasant present at Christmas. One Christmas we flew out to Chicago for the holidays and I spent Christmas Day in bed with a horrible flu.  DougM.......glad your son has his prioritized punchlist in place for a college selection.  Whistling

JoeyD.........I am glad that the family is settling in nicely.  Thumbs Up  You and yours have been getting out and about right out of the box, getting the lay of the land.  How are your newly required vehicles working out?

Dennis.......you have so much train stuff, how tough can it be to sneak a few pieces in here and there?  Watch the wife closely for the tricks of the contraband trade.  Pretty sure my wife leaves it in the trunk of her car and waits until I go out to sneak it into the house.  Laugh

Many guys on the POT have been having teeth issues.  The younger guys probably don't understand that prior to 1960 Flouride and semi annual trips to the dentist for cleanings and checkups were unheard of.  Today, soft tooth enamel and cavities?  No problem.  Treatments for that.  Dental insurance sure doesn't cover much these days.

Wanted to have the first fire of the season Saturday night but wife thought it was too warm.  What good is a fireplace if you at least don't use it for ambience?  Besides, the grandchildren need to be taught the dangers, when we are not too busy to monitor things.  Another teaching opportunity lost, and when she wants a fire at Christmas I will be assigned the police duties. Bang Head

ROY.........the Patriots did there best to give away what was at one point a blowout of the Colts, gave up 21 points down the stretch, just squeked it out by 7.  That Cowboys loss has to hurt.  Was glad to read you are getting some rain.  Was thinking of you when I paid my water bill last week.  Mine can easily top $100 per month if I am watering the lawn.  Or the son moves back in (again).  Bang Head  My wife got a gander of the last electric bill and observed:   "Jack, how can the electric bill be going UP with the A/C season well behind us?  You leave too many lights on."  "Gee, honey, the bill has gone up 30% over the same month prior year.  I think the problem isn't me or the meter.  You should start looking for the problem in our son's bedroom.  He wasn't living here this time last year."  Bang Head

SJ.........what's with the LIONS?  Depressing.

LAZ...........you got me to thinking with all of the deer no-shows.  What is the "best if used by" date on your ammo? Whistling

Roy and Brutus..........thanks for the heads up on the cell phone signal boosters.  

RT...........a friend of mine told me last night with a smile on his face that he has fallen way behind on Fall cleanup.  He hired his nephew to tackle it this week for very short money.  Thumbs Up  The economy here is so bad that I am getting cards in my mailbox every day for power washing and landscaping cleanup.

Fife and Brent.........I don't see your mug shots on the news, so I assume you both behaved yourselves when you hooked up. Smile, Wink & Grin

8N.......if my wife came home and found a layout on the dining room table yuz guyz would be reading my obituary in the news.  SWEET!!!!

Gotta run.  Later gang.

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Posted by cheapclassics on Monday, December 5, 2011 7:06 AM

Good morning all,

It is rainy in SE Indiana.  Tree is up, and ornaments and lights are on it as well.  Went to junior/senior high Christmas choral show Sunday.  Good sized crowd.  I had bran muffins on the dining car for breakfast before sending it on "Points East".  TBIL and I can drive.  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

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Posted by Blueberryhill RR on Monday, December 5, 2011 6:13 AM

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a cloudy 55 degrees. Looks like rain any minute. High today 60.

Today is a busy day. Wife is grocery shopping. I have a bunch of paperwork to do. And the usual chores. Maybe a nap this afternoon.

Dining car is here with Cheerios for breakfast.

Y'all have a great Monday.

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Posted by laz 57 on Monday, December 5, 2011 6:02 AM

Hi GUYZ,

  No deer this past weekend.  Did a bunch o pushes for BRO and Uncle, they saw a few I saw NOTHING.  Came home on Sunday took dog for walk and saw 4 deer.  I think I even heard a bit of a snicker?

BEARs STUNK.

Nothing else new,

Stay frosty,

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Posted by fifedog on Monday, December 5, 2011 5:38 AM

Mornin' boys.  Foggy and 37 here in the Mid-Atlantic region.  Double-dipped on Greenberg's yesterday.  Picked up a Lionel 16681 aquarium car (NIB) for oldest boy's stepson (he likes sharks), and a 29647 gingerbread mint car for wifey (she likes gingerbread men).  Charging the Christmas present so I won't be disappointed on the 25th.

Roy - ...nothing like the head coach helping to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

Watched NFL all afternoon and evening.  Tee-boooooowwwww!!!  How can you not enjoy this kid?

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Posted by dwiemer on Monday, December 5, 2011 4:28 AM

Good morning everyone.  Welcome back Brutus.  Rich, Doug, hope you are both on the mend.  Was a nice weekend as I was on call and didn't have to go in at all.  Have a case this morning though, so I will head that way once this post is done.  Church was great yesterday as we had a guy named David Nasser.  He and his family escaped the Iranian revolution in'79 and came here.  What a speaker!  If you get the chance, he has a great story to tell.

Is it me, or do any of you notice that the best deals on the trains that you desire most seem to come right after you pledge with SWMBO that you will not make another purchase?  We are waiting until we get home with both kids from China before making any such purchases, and I have seen a number of great deals come and go on the train front....what's with that?

Well, have a blessed week ahead everyone.

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Posted by 8ntruck on Monday, December 5, 2011 12:52 AM

Donated most of yesterday, and some of today.  Spent most of the rest of the weekend working on the Polar Express layout.  It snowed there this weekend:

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Posted by dougdagrump on Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:27 PM

Howdy All.

It was a wild friday and saturday at the museum for the Christmas on the Prado festivities, at least that is what it used to be called prior to the PC nonsense. Checked in a few times and they had guests stacked up like cord wood inside and outside waiting to get in. So glad I opted out. Whistling

We went to the Great Train Expo in Del Mar today, what a waste of $23, great if you were a two rail operator but very little 3rail which was overpriced. Did make a stop on the way home at the Dollar Store. The better half is hosting her Bunco group tomorrow nite so the resident clown(me) decided to pick-up two sets of those antlers and red noses to to put on our vehicles. Of course before her guests arrive I'll back the cars into the driveway so they will be greeted by our "reindeer". It's fun to have a slightly warped sense of humour.

Finished the baking for tomorrow, sugar cookies and a carrot cake. The only thing left is the main course and some appetizers. Bang Head

I'm pooped, time to kick-off the shoes and play on the confuser. Think I'll listen to some Statler Bros Christmas cd's while I surf. Thumbs Up

Nite All ! 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, December 4, 2011 9:25 PM

Time for me to call it a night. See y'all tomorrow.

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Posted by Brutus on Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:58 PM

Wow - Tardis never looked cleaner!  Good job guys!

WOW WOW - finally got caught up on the coffee pot since I left, man you guys chatted up a storm!

Welcome Stourbridge Lion!

Hope all the HVAC/Concrete/cell phone problems have been fixed or solved!  We have a microcell from AT&T, but it only works with a very limited number of phones, which have to be registered on the account FYI.  ALSO - if you leave a smartphone running with the data mode on, it will suck down the battery since the phone sees it as a router and continously connects.  There should be an elegant solution for this, but none I have found.  So, when I get home at night, I turn off the data mode on my phone.  I can still get phone calls and regular text messages.  As for running the AC/Heater, you would want to make sure that you would not cool the house down and then have the system switch to heating it up.  A friend does this stuff for a living and he told me that they do have controllers that will do this, but this is a problem that must be avoided.  I think he said they put in a solenoid on a temperature switch to keep the actual heater or cooler elements from running in a certain range of temperature, but it does allow the fan to run.  So the controller thinks it is running the AC or the Heat for a certain range or temps, while in fact only the fan is running.  That has me confused and I wrote it - but that's what he told me, if memory serves.

Prayers for good health and healing!

TARDIS is ready, so let's get an early start, I have to go back to work tomorrow boys!

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Posted by sir james I on Sunday, December 4, 2011 6:51 PM

Good evening

51 today, some lite showers.

Pat used the Tardis to move cows so Brutus made me clean out the cow pies since I was the last to use it. I was gonna dump them in Brutus' bushes but ran out of fuel before I got there. #2 son came by today and changed the oil in granny's car. Oil change places are OK but they tend to over tighten the plug and filter. Don't like that and it's not necessary. Banilla is ready and the  Tardis is clean...S.J.

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:59 PM

Taking a break from attic cleaning. Got most of the stuff to sort and throw away down. Old Christmas lights mixed with new so have to sort that too. Have a big pile to set out for trash tomorrow - but since it is still raining (hooray) will have to get up early and set out then since so much in cardboard boxes.

Watching C'Boys struggle with Cardinals as expected.

Have a nice fire going for a cold and wet evening.

Chief - nothing nicer than a shirt sleeve day in the fall for a parade.

EDIT - C'Boys lose - serious lack of discipline - critical stupid penalties.

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Posted by rtraincollector on Sunday, December 4, 2011 4:11 PM

Wait chief you can't be done this quick its suppose to last at least 3 hours get back to waving if you circled around in time to see most of it you were suppose to get in the end of the line and go around again. Laugh

getting ready for Sunday dinner roast beef, mashed potatoes, gravy, peas,onions and mushroom Melody.

Time for me to mash the tators so need to run you all have a good night

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Sunday, December 4, 2011 3:17 PM

Longest parade for Roseyville.  Took over an hour.  We were in front so we slipped around the back way and got to see most of it pass the house.  Was so warm we were in shirt sleeves.  Last year, the Yanks sent cold temps and winds.  This year, Pat blocked the bad stuff for us.

Got to go set a post in the fence near the house where the two deer ran through and broke it off.

Later 

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Posted by KRM on Sunday, December 4, 2011 2:09 PM

cnw1995

Aloha all. Still sick. Visited Lewis U with the teen. He kind of liked it for all the 'wrong' reasons (they have club hockey, cute girls, brickface buildings). Took a campus tour in hailstorm. The youngest had his final Christmas 'show' last night. Just working on his videos to share with the family that couldn't make it - welcome back, Brutus. Hope this what-ever-it-is (cold, flu) goes away soonest as Kelly has it too.

DougM,

 Sure your not just sick from thinking about what it will cost to send the child to one of them schools? Laugh

 Anyway you get better soon.

Brutus will be sick next when he adds up the bill from his trip to Florida. Ick!

Got all of the X-mass family letters and cards ready to ship but ran out of stamps so I will have to go to town and get a new roll tomorrow.  A lot of cards to lick.....   Stick out tongue Glad don't have to lick stamp anymore.

Enjoy,

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:52 PM

Welcome back Brutus.

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Posted by cnw1995 on Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:38 PM

Aloha all. Still sick. Visited Lewis U with the teen. He kind of liked it for all the 'wrong' reasons (they have club hockey, cute girls, brickface buildings). Took a campus tour in hailstorm. The youngest had his final Christmas 'show' last night. Just working on his videos to share with the family that couldn't make it - welcome back, Brutus. Hope this what-ever-it-is (cold, flu) goes away soonest as Kelly has it too.

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Posted by wrmcclellan on Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:25 PM

Morning/afternoon all!

It finally started raining for real last night and when I went out to look at the rain gauge a little while ago we have received nearly 4 inches. Weather pundits say we need about 18 - 20 inches to replenish the water tables and refill the lakes. Previous rains have all been sucked into the ground and no runoff so no help for the lakes. Maybe this one will help.

Only 40's today - Jeffrey - sending it your way. Good thing we got that new furnace.

Cowboys today ve Cardinals. Cards tend to mess with the C'Boys and this game is in AZ.

Will try to do some further attic cleaning today - sort through the old Christmas decorations.

BTW - welcome back Brutus!

Have a great day all!

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Posted by SPMan on Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:45 AM

Good morning all,

Dennis, glad you got the message about TTOS cancellation.  I knew you had a long drive.  I am dissapointed myself today with no meet.  We went to Mass last night so I could go to the meet today.  Now I"m all dressed up with no place to go.

Chief, have a nice day in the Christmas parade.

Went out yesterday looking for a new shower curtain.  Should have known better than shopping on Saturday during the Christmas season. Pretty crowded everywhere!  We gave up on that and decided to have lunch out instead.  Tried a new place in our shopping center.  One of those trendy, yuppy places which boils down to higher prices.  Had a roast beef sandwich on rye but iced tea was one of those fruity flavors which they had mislabled. Yuk!  Should have gone to N-and-out Burger which was my first thought.  Better food at half the price.

Need to put more feeders on my two loops of track.  Too many voltage drops when I run conventional trains.  When running with DCS I don't notice because I have higher voltage going into the track.  Lately, I have just been turning off the train sounds and listening to Christmas music instead.  Nothing like watching old 97 and listening to Bing Crosby at the same time.

later,

Ray

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Sunday, December 4, 2011 10:23 AM

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TV forcast is 64 today and its sunney,61 tomorow. Cold in the morning and evening makes that 64 colder than in the spring or fall.

High of 64! It's already three degrees warmer than that here. We're looking at a high of 72. Down side is it's raining and will probably do so all day.

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Posted by LawsonFarmsRR on Sunday, December 4, 2011 9:54 AM

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Well waiting for SJ or Pat to show up with the tardis so we can get going on it.


Sorry I still have the Tardis. Used it to move cows around the farm. Need to clean it out before returning it.Embarrassed

Pat

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