RE:COFFEE POT #4 April 1st, 2011, for all to take a drink and chat. 5+ years and going. Menu adjustments -> KIBBLES ! NO GRITS, and Some coffee and tea.

[LawsonFarmsRR]

SPMan

Good morning all,

Happy birthday to Rich

Pat, AF Ray , Doug and others, thanks for the comments about the blood work.  Pat,  I know you are right.  I was on the South Beach Diet once and it did bring the numbers down.  I fell off the diet wagon when my leg started acting up and I did not feel like walking much.  Then I went nuts on eating the wrong stuff so now it's back to the straight and narrow.  First priority starting yesterday was no more ice cream.  I'm also watching fat content in everything now and have gone back to egg beaters for breakfast.  I want to do a lot more walking as soon as I can.  Thanks guys for the encouragement.

Ray

 

Ray:

South Beach is a good diet, but even they add some sugar and starches to some recipes. Did you know there are 40+ ways of labeling sugar, just to snooker the public? You eat sugar and don't know it.

I don't recall your specific leg problem, but I had a cramp problem at night with both legs until our Functional MD told me to take Magnesium, a product called Calm. Cleared it up in less than a week.

We don't pay attention to fats or salts. Did you know there is no sugar in eggs, and you can get sugar free bacon and sausage? And sugar free pickles, creamy salad dressings, mayonnaise, lunch meat and more?

Sorry to keep getting up on my soap box, but we are passionate about our results.

Pat

[traindood]

Afternoon fellas and gals:    Hope everyone is safe and sound on this day. Lots a scary pics onT.V. Heart goes out to those people. Well, on the home front, school board results are in: the old crooks are out and the new er, i'll be kind, people are in. To be continued....   S.P. man; my 2cents, do not eat anything with peanuts in it; made a difference with my try's big time. Hey Pat:   Great news on your low carb diet, congas to you and yours. While we are on the subject, wifey tells me about this here Caveman diet. You can eat anthing the cavemen ate when they were around, except agricultural grains, which did not occur until about 5000 years ago. That means no pasta, no bread, no beer etc. I guess you know by now were we're going with this diet. So I tells the bride, aren't you always telling me stop eating like a caveman, you're too fat and your pants don't fit!!  Make up your mind already!          later.

[dougdagrump]

Pat,

Not so much low carb, I had to give up the half & half in my coffee and drasticly reduce the use of butter and red meat. Lots of grilled boneless skinless chicken b_r_e_a_s_t. After bringing it down I'm kinda following a "maintenance" diet w/regards to butter and red meat but half-n-half is still verbotten. Easter was an exception of course, after cooking that big 'ol rib eye roast I just had to cut me a big thick slice of med rare. Of course I did cut the roast off the bone before slicing, wrapped & in the freezer so they can be slathered in sauce and put in a low oven next week.

[LawsonFarmsRR]

SPMan

Good morning all,

Happy birthday to Rich

Pat, AF Ray , Doug and others, thanks for the comments about the blood work.  Pat,  I know you are right.  I was on the South Beach Diet once and it did bring the numbers down.  I fell off the diet wagon when my leg started acting up and I did not feel like walking much.  Then I went nuts on eating the wrong stuff so now it's back to the straight and narrow.  First priority starting yesterday was no more ice cream.  I'm also watching fat content in everything now and have gone back to egg beaters for breakfast.  I want to do a lot more walking as soon as I can.  Thanks guys for the encouragement.

Ray

 

Ray:

South Beach is a good diet, but even they add some sugar and starches to some recipes. Did you know there are 40+ ways of labeling sugar, just to snooker the public? You eat sugar and don't know it.

I don't recall your specific leg problem, but I had a cramp problem at night with both legs until our Functional MD told me to take Magnesium, a product called Calm. Cleared it up in less than a week.

We don't pay attention to fats or salts. Did you know there is no sugar in eggs, and you can get sugar free bacon and sausage? And sugar free pickles, creamy salad dressings, mayonnaise, lunch meat and more?

Sorry to keep getting up on my soap box, but we are passionate about our results.

Pat

[LawsonFarmsRR]

dougdagrump

Pat,

Not so much low carb, I had to give up the half & half in my coffee and drasticly reduce the use of butter and red meat. Lots of grilled boneless skinless chicken b_r_e_a_s_t. After bringing it down I'm kinda following a "maintenance" diet w/regards to butter and red meat but half-n-half is still verbotten. Easter was an exception of course, after cooking that big 'ol rib eye roast I just had to cut me a big thick slice of med rare. Of course I did cut the roast off the bone before slicing, wrapped & in the freezer so they can be slathered in sauce and put in a low oven next week.

I see b_r_e_s_t worked, no deletion! Did you know half-n-half has less sugar than whole milk which has less than 2%? No carbs in the rib eye roast. Those bones  make great soup.

Pat

[ChiefEagles]

Evening all.  Came back from lake house last night.  Meetings all day.  Light rain earlier but southeast of us more tornados.  Not the biggies like we had the other week.

SJ, you are putting up the dog sled.

Seems I missed some hood in NJ's birthday. 

Shed and storage building is covered with vinyl siding.  Did it in one day.  Took most of yesterday to clean up [between big rains].

Chat later.

[jefelectric]

Good evening guys,

To add to the diet discussion, I have been on Atkins since about the middle of January and have lost 23.5 lbs.  Atkins has changed some over the years and is now a pretty good diet, I think.  One thing I want to mention.  Most of the low fat foods are loaded with carbs to they do nothing in the battle to lose weight.  For me this is the best diet I have ever been on as I don't feel hungry all the time, but do lose weight.  After the first few weeks it is slow, but about a pound a week.

Now for the train news.  I just ran the two tinplate trains on the inner loops and everything worked perfectly.  These are the two that I expect to run on the proposed Christmas layout this year in the living room, first in many years.

We did not get any wind or rain damage, but some of both within about 15 miles of us so we are very fortunate and thankful.

Did drive through some very nasty rain this morning to meet a friend for breakfast, the 4-lane traffic slowed to about 35 mph for a time.

I have started on doll house no. 6 for granddaughter no. 5.  (Did a small one for one of the daughters for a coffee table display.)  This one is scheduled by Christmas.  Yes I am a slow builder.

Hope everyone else survived the nasty weather with no problems.

[SPMan]

Pat, that South Beach Diet allows some cheese but I have to watch out for fat in some of it.  I have been using a non fat cream cheese on toast in place of butter for breakfast and it's not bad.  They also have something like mashed potatoes made with cauliflower which isn't bad.  You just cook it and mash it up and it almost looks like potatoes but no carbs.  I need to get back to oatmeal too instead of  dry cereal.  The old fashion oatmeal is best because it does not break down in your body as fast which takes more time to get in the blood stream.  I could use one of those "full life" doctors.  I use sugar substitutes in coffee or tea.  I have been eating a lot of cucumbers for snacks and a few low fat cheese sticks.  Apples are good for my sweet tooth also.  That cheese without macaroni dish you mentioned sounds interesting.  This morning I had a nice omelet made with egg beaters using some left over ham diced up with green onion and a little bell pepper.  Then I sprinkled a little shredded cheese on top but not too much.  I diced up some tomato over the whole thing.  It was really good and pretty low in fat and carbs.  I'll figure it out eventually,

Ray

[Buckeye Riveter]

Oops....I'm on the wrong forum.  I was looking for the Toy Train Forum and accidental landed on the Cooking with Pat & Ray forum. 

[Buckeye Riveter]

Now I just clicked on again and I'm still on the darn Cooking Forum with Pat & Ray.  Something must be wrong with my computer.

[sir james I]

Good Evening

45 now and no rain today, we got plenty last night though. I'll pass on the diet comments. I know some must be careful how they eat, I believe in moderation. The banilla is ready and rootbeer can be had so fire up the thingy, I'll be ready..S.J.

[anjdevil2]

Good Evening, Guys!

Thanks for the Birthday wishes....

Waffles and Ice Cream with coffee & Orange Juice Saturday Morning!!

Cooler now, just getting back from Fire Drill.

Rain and THUNDER this afternoon, 40ish tonight I think.  60-70 tomorrow.  Weather has been to my liking!!

Got a print from TW of Texas (Roy, you know those people?)  $10 shipped, Lionel, 110 years of Christmas Tradition...something to that effect.  I like it.  Copies of that were in the NYC store during the Holidays ( a small birthday present to myself).

Off to bed, early morning tomorrow.....

I hope Rachel Ray stops by here, later...

 

[Brutus]

Forgot to hit that compatibility mode button and lost a long post.  Oh well, not really important.  Good luck on your project, Brent.  Wish they would fix this forum.  TARDIS is ready, so let's get moving Freddy!

[hscsltb]

Hello to all.Just a quick check in.Hope all is well.

[cheapclassics]

Good morning all,

Finally some dry weather in SE Indiana but cooler.  Loaded junk furniture from dad's place out for heavy trash pickup.  Went to a hospice memorial event for dad as well. Good day at work.  Regular fare for breakfast.  Four day weekend coming up.  Need it .  TBIL and I can drive.  I hope everyone has a good day.

Keep on training,

Mike C. from Indiana

[Hudson#685]

Good Morning,

Starting as a beautiful sunny day here, hope it stays that way.

Pat, It seems that most doctors treat the symptoms not what is causing the problem. After about 5 visits it is off to a specialist and into the loop of tests and the "specialists CYA themselves".

Traindood, I like your observations, views and comments. You should be the "Cooldood".

Mike C, Enjoy your 4 day weekend.

Thoughts and Prayers for all in need.

Have a Great Day,

John

[laz 57]

HI GUYZ,

  Nice here today starting out at 57 and going up to 65 nice.  Heading out to PITTSBURGH this morning to the NRA SHOW.  Me and BRO were there 6 years ago and what a great show.  4.5 acres in the Convention Center filled with guns and the latest in shooting supplies.  Coming home tomorrow.

BUCKEYE & CHUCK, TGIF!!!!!

Stay frosty,

laz57

[Blueberryhill RR]

Good Morning from Blueberryhill....

It is a cloudy 50 degrees. Going up to 67 today with a chance of rain.

Today is a busy day. I have some chores to do and an errand to run. I will be busy for a few hours. A nap this afternoon is on the agenda.

Baseball tonite. Indians are doing great.

Dining car is here with Cheerios for breakfast.

BUCKEYE & LAZ..... TGIF

Y'all have a great Friday.

Chuck

[Buckeye Riveter]

TGIF

Looking forward to my Birthday next week. 

[submmbob]

Couple of really long days here at the 'scope. Working a schedule for the next few weeks which is not exactly conducive for sleep.

We had our first fires for the season last week. One was relatively low on the mountain and the other was in an area that had burned a few years ago. We did not get a lot of snowpack this winter.

Not a whole lot else I can think of at the moment. Looking forward to finding a pillow.

 

Bob

 

[cnw1995]

Aloha. The sun is out in Chicago's wettest and cloudiest April in 50 years. I'm sure we'll miss the water in August. Really tired today but will soldier on. Hope everyone has a good TGIF. Learning alot about food here lately.

[sir james I]

Good Morning

43 mostly cloudy

A busy day for this old guy, I am hosting a train meet here in a couple weeks and granny is using it as an excuse to clean up the basement. It may get rid of the dust but I have way to much stuff down there  for cleaning to do much, except remove the dust..lol

Oatmeal and 1 toast for breakfast...S.J.

[RockIsland52]

Good Mornin' Ya'll From Sunny Taxachusetts,

Sunny and 70 on tap for today.  Weather for our monthly "Burger Night" gathering tomorrow night calls for clear and 60s....so I won't be grilling in the rain!!!!  Confirmed guest list now at 35, and we are going to sneak in a surprise birthday celebration for one unsuspecting attendee.  I wound up relenting this week and buying a new LP gas grill for the occasion.....the old Weber Genesis soldiered on for 11 years but reached the point where the cost of needed replacement parts made an R&R an unwise financial choice.  We use the grill year around, so we really get a good bang for the grill buck.

MikeC......glad to hear you are continuing to make progress with your folks things.  I can appreciate the emotional toll.....cannot tell you how much that the stimulated fond memories of certain pieces from my folks accumulated junk caused me to delay getting rid of it, stuff that sat in their garage, basement, and attic gathering dust and was actually unwanted for decades.  Except for toy trains, you can only have so many treasured "keepsakes."   

RaySP......continured prayers for your leg recovery.  Like you, I have been on a roller coaster ride with weight and test results. 

SJ......was glad to hear your recent pit stops at the doctor's and the dentist's were relatively uneventful.

Regarding the food and health topic.....good stuff.  OK, I still look pregnant, but less so.  In the past 18 months I have taken a rather unscientific and unstructured approach.....the addition of moderate but consistent exercise, intake moderation (portion control, no measuring, a portion is the size of your fist), sensible but satisfying substitution, increased strategic water intake (like 16-24 ounces 15-30 minutes before each meal), avoidance of deprivation and guilt, patience, and a scale placed in a conspicuous place.     

Weightwise, I am now about 13% higher than what I weighed in for college sports my senior year 40 years ago (was about 25% over), my body mass index has been falling, and my test levels have been dropping in the right direction.....just not fast enough for my doctors' tastes as others have experienced and noted here.  If medications help one get to their target test ranges faster, I think one should take them.  That is my next move.  No weapon in the arsenal should be discarded off hand.  For me, slow and steady wins the race.    

When one is younger, more active, and the metabolism is working for you, it is quite easy to overindulge on a lifestyle basis and get away with it, around the waistline and on the test charts.  Not so easy when one passes 45-50.  I don't know a single person in my lifetime who has dieted successfully (pick a diet, any diet) over the long haul (lost weight and kept at least 50% of it off within the first year of the lowest weight achieved) without exercise and a permanent eating lifestyle change.  Having a partner (my wife) in this lifestyle change helps me to keep things sensible, effective, yet satisfying and moving in the right direction. 

There has been a lot of valuable discussion here about cholesterol, fats, carbs (good and bad), sugars (good and bad), and various diets.  For me, diabetics are a solid source of advice when it comes to all of these things.  They seem to be the most effectively educated at giving me the Cliffs Notes version for weight, good nutrition, and the best food and beverage substitutes (brand) that taste surprisingly good.......so I don't have to try experiment with all of the stuff that is out there for healthy content and good taste.  I find myself missing almost nothing.  By the same token, I will indulge, just not daily.    

Later, gang.

Jack

[dbaker48]

Sure hope all this weather stuff is over !!

There has really been a lot going on since the first of the year!  Range fires, tornadoes, floods, etc., etc., and just within this country.  Much less the earthquakes, and tsunamis.

Still flashback on York trip, but that Scrapple stuff always come to mind, Yuk.  Havn't gotten to do the layout mods I've intended on, need to get a few "Honey Do's" taken care of first.  And its just giving me more time to think things out a little further. 

Getting the yard ready for summer, putting up the patio lights, servicing the pool, and a general clean-up.  Havn't talked to Glen much since got back from York either.  I think he has a lot that was rescheduled so I'm sure he has been rather busy.

Regarding all the diet stuff, I too believe moderation in what you select and eat.  So I have found that if I eat dessert first, than that curbs my apetitie and I don't eat quite as much. 

Obviously, someone like Buckeye would find issues with all the health food topics, look at all the Birthday cakes he gets!!

Later

[LawsonFarmsRR]

SPMan

Pat, that South Beach Diet allows some cheese but I have to watch out for fat in some of it.  I have been using a non fat cream cheese on toast in place of butter for breakfast and it's not bad.  They also have something like mashed potatoes made with cauliflower which isn't bad.  You just cook it and mash it up and it almost looks like potatoes but no carbs.  I need to get back to oatmeal too instead of  dry cereal.  The old fashion oatmeal is best because it does not break down in your body as fast which takes more time to get in the blood stream.  I could use one of those "full life" doctors.  I use sugar substitutes in coffee or tea.  I have been eating a lot of cucumbers for snacks and a few low fat cheese sticks.  Apples are good for my sweet tooth also.  That cheese without macaroni dish you mentioned sounds interesting.  This morning I had a nice omelet made with egg beaters using some left over ham diced up with green onion and a little bell pepper.  Then I sprinkled a little shredded cheese on top but not too much.  I diced up some tomato over the whole thing.  It was really good and pretty low in fat and carbs.  I'll figure it out eventually,

Ray

Ray, you are defiantly on the right "diet" track. My wife Laura uses  cauliflower in her no potato potato salad, her no mac mac & cheese, and some others I can't think of. I'll suggest your cauliflower mashed potato. Apples satisfy my sweet tooth too.

Your omelet sounds great. I am sure you can buy sugar (carb) free cheese.

The "full life" doctors are listed on line as Dr. of Functional Medicine or Dr. of Integrated Medicine.

Pat

[LawsonFarmsRR]

Buckeye Riveter

Oops....I'm on the wrong forum.  I was looking for the Toy Train Forum and accidental landed on the Cooking with Pat & Ray forum. 

Yes, and all are welcome (Carb free cake!)

Pat & Ray

[LawsonFarmsRR]

Buckeye Riveter

Now I just clicked on again and I'm still on the darn Cooking Forum with Pat & Ray.  Something must be wrong with my computer.

Don't   Come join us. We run trains too

Pat & Ray

[rtraincollector]

BUCKEYE !! Warning!!!! its all has a base food something these guys call GRITS it grits to you everywhere starting with your teeth and then the next thing you know your in trouble.

[jefelectric]

Hi guys,

It has been a 3 step day, sun, clouds, rain.  Lawn soon tall enough to cut and bail. 

Don, The grocery cart today included a pound of SCRAPLE.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

[traindood]

Evenin':   Hey John, could fill a many a page with blood work, cholestorol stories.  All I know is, somebody up there likes me. There is not one diet, not one that works, so..... have a beer and don't worry, be happy.  Our individual body chemistry determines our phisiology and there's not a blessed thing you can do about it; except of course next time pick better parents.      later.