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Wednesday's Witticism
If you have a hill to climb, waitin' won't make it smaller.
G'day Gents!
It's mid-week in mid-continent USA once again! Seems like we did this just . . . <grin>
Time to fill up those coffee mugs, sample a pastry or two from The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it!
Comments from the Proprietor:
Perkin' along at the Watering Hole by the Wayside - that's far better than the alternative, eh
Temps have been "up there" for the start of the month but "they" say the rains are on the way along with more comfortable days ‘n nights. Can't get here soon enough for me! <phew>
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Jan (JanOlov) at 7:59 AM Tuesday - Sep 4th: Now that's a treat for a Friday buffet, fer sure, fer sure! Nice work ‘n let's hope the guys take advantage of it!
Back in 1968 I had occasion to undergo some training with Canadian Marines at a U.S. Army base in New England. Long story - not really for here - but just wanted to chime in with the comments you made regarding Rangers, French Foreign Legion, etc. Those guys were quite the group ‘n the contingent I was with found ‘em to be great comrades in arms for the 2 weeks we were together. You'll have to enlighten us regarding your military background, as the "signals" are coming in from all quarters - Sweden - Scotland - the U.S. ???, what's the deal
Wouldn't have seen you on the MRR Thread, but did see you "in ‘n out" many times on our Forum. Just seemed rather odd . . . but choice is yours to take, eh
Milwaukee Road depots ‘n trains are "top drawer"!
Thanx for the visit ‘n "top up," along with quarters for Herr Wurlitzer (aka: juke box). Tip Jar??? Nope - we use a cigar box. <grin>
CM3 Shane at 9:54 AM Tuesday - Sep 4th: That B&M narrative is well worth the read ‘n it is my hope that the guys do that very thing - READ it!! As a recipient of an award of two from this joint - way back when - Silver Throttle Award w/cluster I believe - your ability to put into words that which resides in memory is without rival. Well done, Mate!
My recollections of North Station are varied ‘n from the era 1968-73. For half of that time I commuted "in" from Melrose on the B&Ms RDCs - which you already know. The other half was from the south (Dedham) which was mostly by cAH - which was an experience to say the least. <yikes> <screeeech> Took the train in from Hyde Park every now ‘n then, but never felt comfortable leaving the cAH in that area for the day. Anyway, I had a parking place right on the pier alongside the ship - so it was easier to drive all the way.
But I digress - North Station arrivals ‘n departures were sights to remember. I especially liked them during winter with the freshly fallen snow in particular captivating the landscape. Then of course things turned that grayish-white then before too long, just slop ‘n slush.
Never encountered any B&M personnel who would've been awarded the congeniality award! <geesh> A most unfriendly lot - must be the Genesis for those who work the motor vehicle registration offices throughout the land. <ugh>
Seems either I or someone else made reference to that "mystery" RDC foto sometime back - I think Billerica was the location "guessed." I found those RDC Pix a long time ago ‘n recall that they didn't give any background info - probably "snatched" from elsewhere. But, yeah - the other two are definitely North Station . . .
The Mikado is one of our MOST favorite G&S productions. Lord High Executioner lyrics ‘n song are the best . . . I've got you on my list!
Links have been viewed before - but always good as "refreshers"! Speaking of URLs - I spent lotsatime with that Pennsy link. Great stuff, fer sure, fer sure!
Appreciate the visit, chat, info, quarters ‘n round!
Dan (DL-UK) at 11:22 AM Tuesday - Sep 4th: Glad you picked up on the links I provided for the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton, Ontario. It was an enjoyable day for us ‘n especially liked the Lancaster bomber . . . fantastic flying machine fer sure, fer sure. Very poignant information regarding the recipient of the Victoria Cross - Andrew Mynarski (1944).
Once again for those who may have missed it, the URL below will take you to 3 sets of fotos at the CWH museum along with some fine narrative from Rob who provided elaborations on my fotos . . .
http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/344/991587/ShowPost
Good morning captain Toma and Gentlemen!!
Leon, just a cup of coffee. I am exhausted after my first day back to work. Thank you!
Back to normal, at least more or less. In other words, the doctor let me go back to work today. Tonight I am really tired so I am not going to stay here for long.
Tom – Where I grew up pancakes were for lunch or dinner, never breakfast and never ever with any kind of meat. The normal combination was Yellow Pea Soup and, after that bowl was empty, pancakes and strawberry jam (or lingonberries). Normally people had that on Thursdays! And they still do. Personally I have Pancakes and Blackberries, topped with whipped cream, every Monday and Wednesday! For lunch! Mmmmm!! Guess what I am going to have today?My quiz photo shows two traction motors, placed on a flat car, for a Class D electric. The rods connecting the drivers can be seen closer to the floor.
Class D.
Thanks for the Boston & Maine info!! I am learning quite a bit about this railroad today! I like that old fashion map, even though it is hard to read. Nice pictures of two of the locomotives!JanOlov – Wow, that is a good looking Smörgåsbord!! I am ready! Some nice Milwaukee Road pictures from yesteryear!! I have actually been to Madrid, IA, and I have to check what kind of pictures I have from that town! Thanks for the UP streamliner info! Those M-1000X were good looking trains indeed. PRR Duplex Drive T1 was i different looking steam locomotive, 6-4-4-6! Nice picture! It was too long for most of PRR’s turntables and was used between Chicago and Crestline, OH. It was taken out of service 1944 and scrapped 1949. CM3 – Thanks for the info on Key System! The 0-8-0 is a Swedish State Railways Class E from 1907. Low speed locomotive but quite a bit of traction. You are basically correct about the picture. It shows the two traction motors in a Class D electric (above) from the mid 1920’s. A very common type of electrics in Sweden. I operated them many, many times and they remained in service until 1988. Thank you for the Boston & Maine and North Station article!! Very well written and informative! I copied it for future reference! As I have said before, you should be an author! DL – The Titfield Thunderbolt! One of my favorite movies! Saw it on TV a number of times in the 50’s and 60’s! The last time I saw it was in the early 70’s! Short Sunderland! That is a good size seaplane! I saw it at a Museum outside London in the late 70's. Was it Hendon? I am not sure, have to check when I get a chance. A very nice museum. I have pictures of that Short Sunderland. Ron – Thanks for the PRR pictures! The one of the Horseshoe Curve looks so clean. I have that curve on a video from our tour with the X2000 in 1993. But it is impossible to get a good view from the train when it is moving through the curve. Lars – The admin work has piled up? Blaming it on the new time slot! I think you are letting Ruth work too hard with all that admin work. Like the paint scheme on B&M’s EMDs! Thanks for the book covers and pictures!
Eric
Good afternoon Captain Tom and all present!!Ruth, good to see you! It doesn’t happen every day. You look kind of tired. Too much admin work? Really. No, I’ll just have a cup of coffee and a ham sandwich. I am on the run. I’ll be back later tonight with an inclusive post. Thought I should add some more pictures to the one from early this morning. They were all taken at the Swedish State Railways’ school in 1976. All parts belong to different electric locomotives and in order to become an engineer you better know what everything is, how it works and where it is located. Controller and contactors for a Class D.A mix of relays, contactors and other devices.Break time.Different kind of speedometers.
Greetings Tom and all present,
May I have a top up for me and around the bar please?
First of all, I'd like to apologise for me wee sidestep again for the Cappucino. So, there's not even a chance for a Latte then? Well, just trying to fit I guess and still learning the do's and don'ts in this great please and it's awesome people. Just like puppy being house trained....give some time and I'll soon find the papers.
Da Larsman, was a Ranger in the Swedish Army 1988-89. Unfortunately they closed down the regiment after 350 years. As for the FFL officer that we had, he was a, well, ...
Should I for some reason drop away from this bar, I'll let you beforehand, so you don't think that left without a cheerio, Gods speed and all that. I work nightshift, so somedays I can sleep for a bit longer then usual. So, no worries about that.
As for the topic about topics. Am I trying to set a record? Not at all mate . I think that it's that I'm trying to take in too much in a short time you know. Like a kid in a candy store, I'm just running in circles not knowing where to go. Occasionally I run into the wall and change direction.
Don't really stray that far either, only MR and Classic Trains. Don't really care much for garden railroads or modern railroads. Railroads to me lost their charm after '76.
Great book covers and pics as always Lars.
Time for me to join the B-day list you say.... Ooh, I don't know . Sure no problem..
And everybody else, PLEASE do continue with all your excellent posts and superb pics. I thoroughly enjoy to read them and constantly envy you who live on the right side of the "railroad pond"..
Greetings Tom and gentlemen,
An extra cold Guinness for me and a top up for the boys please. Purs some $ into the tip jar and jukebox....
Da Larsman, Totally slipped my mind...sorry about that. Oh well, better put on that hat again then....
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH you are the sunshine behind a cloudy day! What radiance. <blush> Yes, a JD on the rocks should do quite well - a round for the house - treats for the crittAHs, ‘n the small jar of PPF for Boris once he finishes feeding the gang! <grin>
Was quite the Labor Day celebration out back capped off with a fine fireworks display. Where in the world did those RPG's come from along with the SAM's Vito the Hit ‘n his Fireworks ‘R Us <or else!> didn't disappoint! <grin>
Noted the flurry of activity once things got dark, with visits from those noted in the AM report from Da Boss.
Wonderin' if Wolfman Pete has been caught up in the awful heat wave out there in Southern California Power outages too. <geesh> He sure knows when to pick the time to head west, huh Sure could use some daytime help ‘round here while he's outta town. Would take a bit of the strain off . . .
For Cap'n Tom: Continuing with the B&M material, huh Great RR From Yesteryear selection! Lotsastuff in that one . . . Should keep our coalminer friend in "hog heaven" for the day!
Don't mind helping out when 'n where I can.
For Jan: You put forth quite a bit of inside info regarding what must be an interesting past. Ranger, huh Whose army ‘n when Nice to know we have another military vet amongst us . . .
I met up with a guy who said he was in the FFL ‘n from the way he carried himself, there was little doubt that he played with perhaps 49 cards of the full deck. <uh oh> He was an oiler aboard one of the ships I engineered in ‘n did his work in a competent manner. Some guys you just don't' forget . . .
What thoroughly PO's Da Bossman ‘n yours truly are the guys who simply dropped off the earth after being the bar for long stints. One in particular I note is frequenting one of your topics. x 10, in my not-so-humble-opinion.
Noted you've got more topics going for you on the forum than anyone else. Trying to set a record?? I don't stray very far from "home," so don't know what's going on over on the MRR or other forums. I do check to see who is logged in though - something Da Boss "taught" me how to do. Interesting to see the sign-ins . . . .
Now THAT's quite a spread to look forward to - Friday can't get here soon enough!
So, you think I'm a youngster, huh First you call me a "wee man," now it's another misnomer. Hmmmmm, time for YOU to join the B'day Watch List!! Send Da Boss an e-mail ‘n we'll ALL know!
Good stuff on the Milwaukee Road, mate - have one on me!
More info in that UP post than I'll evAH need!
CAPPUCINO my sweet stern section!
For Eric: Nope, wasn't "in" on Sunday - just slipped my messages through the mail slots on the front doors! Try it sometime - it works well.
Penthouse Suite, me??? You must have me confused with Pete ‘n Sonia! <grin>
I think there's a brainwave beginning regarding that photo - but I'll have to give it some more thought. <hmmmmmmmmm>
For CM3 I'm NOT Shane: No doubt in my mind that your RR book collection must be quite extensive. To be able to recall from memory the bits ‘n pieces of most book covers posted really tells the tale.
B&M material quite the read! Figured you'd pick up on that B&M ad from Cap'n Tom! Your recollections turned to words are a treat for the eyes!
Just to chime in regarding those in the rarified air: I used to have a friend who I'd avoid sailing with. He had several personalities. Ashore he was a different guy around his wife than when with the guys. Aboard ship a total tyrant. Amazed he didn't wind up overboard, for all he had to do was walk into a compartment ‘n you could sense the hostility in the air. Really not good in a "closed society" like that. Anyway, he wound up being 1st Mate last time I heard. At least he wasn't in the engine room! <phew>
For Allan
FOR Jan:
As Da Boss has told you in the past - we do NOT serve CAPPUCINO. Have never served CAPPUCINO and will NOT serve CAPPUCINO!
Don't have the machine, don't want the machine, and don't want to hear about the machine!
We're a bar specializing in what taverns do best! <geesh>
Manager Lars!!
Lord Tom and fellow members of House Of Lords,
May I have a Cappucino and a top up for the boys please?
DD1, nice PRR pictures there, they sure had some nice steamers didn't they?
A rare color photo of the T1 at the Baldwin plant ready for delivery to the PRR.
Good evening Tom and gentlemen,
Tonight I think that I'll have an cold Carlsberg Export actually, if you don't mind please. Give the boys a top up as well.
DL - UK, sure thing brother.....
The Union Pacific Railroad's M-10003, M-10004, M-10005, and M-10006 were four identical diesel-electric streamliner train 2-car power sets delivered in May, June, and July 1936 from Pullman-Standard with engines and internal locomotive equipment by General Motors' Electro-Motive Division. One was for the City of San Francisco, two were for the City of Denver, and one was a spare set that ran on both routes. In 1939, M-10004 was split and converted into additional boosters for the other sets, now renumbered CD-05, CD-06, and CD-07, all running on the City of Denver. The M-10001 power car became the other third booster. In this form, the three power sets ran until 1953 when they were replaced by E8 locomotives in 1953, at which point they were scrapped.
The M-10004 at Denver, Colorado, 1938.
Historical significance
The M-10003 through M-10006 represented the final development of the custom streamlined trainset on the Union Pacific, and showed the way toward the future of separate locomotives. As totally separable and interchangeable power sets, they were diesel locomotives in all but name. Their service life of seventeen years was longer than any other UP streamliners.
Details
In many respects, these power sets had a lot in common with the Illinois Central's Green Diamond set, which was completed just previous to these. Abandoning the "turret cab" styling of M-10000 through M-10002, these units adopted a new "automobile design" elevated cab, as in the Green Diamond, behind a long prow of a nose. A divided front air intake grille dominated the nose front, edged in shining stainless steel. Beneath, the pilot was edged and barred in stainless steel, very like the Diamond's. A large headlight tipped the nose.
Each power car had a 1,200 hp V16 Winton 201-A engine, generator, and a pair of two-axle powered trucks. The rear truck of the first power car and the lead truck of the second power car rode on a span bolster to which both power cars were articulated, so they made one unified locomotive of B-B+B-B configuration and a total of 2,400 hp (1,800 kW).
The first westbound City of Denver (M-10005) arrives at Denver, Colorado, June 19, 1936.
Changes
The most significant change to these power sets came in 1939, when they were converted from four two-car, 2,400 hp sets to three three-car, 3,600 hp (2700 kW) sets. Other changes included a gyrating signal light installed below the main headlight after the Second World War, the loss of the stainless steel trim on the pilot, the addition of the Chicago and North Western Railway herald to the nose in addition to the Union Pacific one, and changed nose-side badges for the route. At some point, the original Armour Yellow and Leaf Brown livery was changed to the UP paint scheme still used today, of Armour Yellow with Harbor Mist Gray roof and base, and red striping separating them.
The CD-07 set in 1952, only a year before scrapping, shows its final configuration.
Individual power set histories
M-10003, later CD-07
Despite the earlier number, the M-10003 was actually the last completed of the four. This was because the number M-10003 had been previously assigned to a projected sister trainset to M-10001, which was cancelled when the UP and Pullman-Standard realised that demand for the new trains required more power and a longer trainset. The number was reallocated to the fourth of the new units.
The M-10003 was intended to be a spare power unit set, able to fill in on either the City of San Francisco or City of Denver if any of the other three trainsets needed maintenance. In June 1937, it was decided to permanently assign it to the City of Denver and it was renumbered to CD-07. A third power car was added in December 1939, using a new carbody and the power equipment from M-10001.
CD-07 remained in service on the City of Denver with the two other sets until March 1953, and was scrapped with them in summer that year.
M-10004, later LA-4
First completed was M-10004 in May 1936 for the City of San Francisco. The new power cars had vertical sides and higher profiles than the previous streamliners, but the rest of the train was built to the tapered-side profile of the M-10000 through M-10002 sets. It entered revenue service on June 14, 1936 but lasted only 18 months on the train before the new EMD E2 3-unit set SF-1, SF-2 and SF-3 took over. The train was then refurbished by the UP, renumbered LA-4 and placed on City of Los Angeles service, bumping M-10002 to the City of Portland, which in turn displaced M-10001.
After less than a year as the City of Los Angeles, the LA-4 was replaced again, this time by new EMD E3s LA-5 and LA-6 in March 1939. In June of that year, the lead power car of the train was rebuilt as a booster unit, renumbered to CD-06-C, and added to the former M-10006, now renumbered as CD-06. The trailing power car was added to the former M-10005, now CD-05, as CD-05-C. Both cars were scrapped with their respective power sets.
M-10005, later CD-05
Completed in June 1936, M-10005 entered service as the first of two new streamliners, the "Denver twins", for the City of Denver service on June 18. After approximately a year of running that service, during which the train and its sister M-10006 had moved 129,000 passengers and travelled 765,000 miles (1,231,000 km) between the two, the train was renumbered CD-05.
In June 1939, the former trailing power car of LA-4 (ex M-10004) was added as a third locomotive unit to the power set, giving it a total of 3,600 hp (2,700 kW), and the train was lengthened.
In this form, CD-05 continued in service until March 1953, when it was replaced by new E8 units and scrapped a few months later.
M-10006, later CD-06
M-10006 followed a similar service life to its sister M-10005, being the second of the "Denver twins". It was renumbered to CD-06 in June 1937, and added the rebuilt first power car of LA-4 (ex M-10004) as its third power car in June 1939. It was withdrawn alongside the other units during March 1953 and scrapped.
Good day Tom and all in attendance. Drinks all around. I guess you were wondering what happened to me by my silence. I had computer problems, in that I couldn't log on to the forum. But all is fine again so to catch up, here are four calendars of the Pennsy.
1951 didn't look too interesting so I scratched it.
DL: I know that malls can be boring, but the ones I found in and around Quebec are different. No two malls had the same stores, which is not the case in the U.S. A store in Ca is the same as one in Ms. That is a good reason why malls in the U.S. are not as busy as they should be. In Quebec, the malls are packed every day and people make it an all day affair. In Quebec, you can buy a new car, eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, see a movie, watch a hockey game, do all your grocery shopping, post office services and shop till you drop.
Hello Tom and all in
Apologies, I forgot yesterday was Labor Day in North America! No wonder things were a bit different in the bar! Hope ya'll had a good time!
I'll try a frosty one of Lars' favourite - since he was offering me one the other day.
Tom, what a surprise to see you confirm my suspicions about Toronto airport transit! As you say, very similar to Montreal where you are not supposed to take VIA down town even if you manage to co-incide with a departure from Dorval anyway.
That link on the TTC streetcar was one of two (I think) short listed designs, but as you say (and as Eric points out) they are LRV style vehicles - I assume this is because they want to lay new LRV lines - if they want to run them on the existing streetcar rails I would think they would need to tweak the track condition up a bit for these modern vehicles are probably more temperamental than the tradition streetcars (but I'm no expert!).
The main problem I felt the TTC had was that apart from the Spadina line and some other short sections Toronto streetcars are not on dedicated lines of route so get stuck up in road traffic - this meant sometimes you could wait some time for a streetcar as it had got stuck going in the other direction trying to get through to the end of line - and they did not have a system, in place to turn back cars short of destination in order to increase frequency in the reverse direction when all the streetcars were stuck going one way. A small criticism but frustrating when you are waiting long times for cars and then see many others going the opposite way!
Like you, I was surprised to see only 2 locos on The Canadian - but I'm sure that is all there was - I'll have to check my pictures - but I decided to go with 35mm transparencies (like back in the good old days) and it will be a while before they are back from processing for me to look.
Allan - interesting link to that Fell railway - they have ambitious plans and it sounds like they have done well on money raising for the project - what is the timescale for them to have it re-opened?
James - I was interested to read your comments - what is the timescale on the Minneapolis - Duluth rail commuter line re-opening?
Jan - nice selection of Milwaukee Road pictures - esp the stations. Can I ask you to tell me a bit more about that stylish streamlined diesel you posted a pic on page 93?
Should mention for Ron that I was only in Ontario (mostly Toronto) so not in any of the French language areas - only Mall I had time to see was the Eaton Centre - but I must confess I don't frequent those places if I can avoid them because all too often they only have the same selection of attractions as in very other location - no local colour or variation, which is frustrating - also picking up on your later message - The Titfield Thunderbolt is certainly one of my favourite moves and you might be interested in this link to a site about it:
http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~liserc/tit.html
The page on the locations is of interest.
Anyway - for this instalment I'll include a few comments on our visit to the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum - which Tom has already linked to some pictures from an Our Place Rendezvous. This is a really well done museum - with a great many planes in flying condition - and in fact he next day about 6 or 7 of them were leaving the museum to appear in an air show - so it was good we did not miss them. This necessitated some warming up of engines in readiness on the ground outside the hangar - and the B25-Mitchell was warmed up in this way whilst we were there - which was great to see and hear.
Our main purpose for visiting the museum was to see a selection of the aircraft my late uncle had flown whilst in Canada being trained under the Commonwealth Air Training Scheme as a member of the RAF during WW2 - these aircraft included a DeHaviland Tiger Moth, a Harvard trainer, an Avro Anson, a Link Trainer flight simulator (of course), The Fairchild Cornell and the PBY Canso sea plane. In fact the only aircraft he flew which the museum does not possess an example of is the Short Sunderland (a large British built seaplane).
So the museum has a great collection of aircraft in very good condition, despite having suffered a serious fire some years back which destroyed 5 aircraft including a Spitfire and Hurricane which means the examples they have there of those two aircraft are replicas.
All the best
DL
PS CM3 / Tom - juts caught your interesting B&M posts (after i had prepared my submission)
Although it's not an OH-FISH-UL "Theme for the Day" - appears we've got something going with the Boston & Maine (B&M) - so here's something from the Original Thread to keep 'er goin' . . .
Now arriving on track #1 ..... Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Fifteen
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 307 of the Original Thread>
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Boston & Maine Railroad (B&M) passenger operations Reporting marks: BM, BMZ Locale: Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, and Vermont Dates of operation: 1836 - 1983 (continues in name only subsidiary under changed ownership)Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge) Headquarters: Boston, Massachusetts 1898 map The Boston and Maine Railroad (AAR reporting mark BM), also known by the abbreviation B&M, was the dominant railroad of the northern New England region of the United States for a century. It is now part of the Guilford Rail System network. History The Andover and Wilmington Railroad was incorporated March 15, 1833 to build a branch from the Boston and Lowell Railroad at Wilmington, Massachusetts north to Andover. The line opened to Andover on August 8, 1836. The name was changed to the Andover and Haverhill Railroad on April 18, 1837, reflecting plans to build further to Haverhill (opened later that year), and yet further to Portland, Maine with the renaming to the Boston and Portland Railroad on April 3, 1839, opening to the New Hampshire state line in 1840. The Boston and Maine Railroad was chartered in New Hampshire on June 27, 1835, and the Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts Railroad was incorporated March 12, 1839 in Maine, both companies continuing the proposed line to South Berwick, Maine. The railroad opened in 1840 to Exeter, New Hampshire, and on January 1, 1842 the two companies merged with the Boston and Portland to form a new Boston and Maine Railroad. On February 23, 1843 the B&M opened to Agamenticus, on the line of the Portland, Saco and Portsmouth Railroad in South Berwick. On January 28 of that year the B&M and Eastern Railroad came to an agreement to both lease the PS&P as a joint line to Portland. The Boston and Maine Extension Railroad was incorporated March 16, 1844, due to a dispute with the Boston and Lowell Railroad over trackage rights rates between Wilmington and Boston. That company was merged into the main B&M on March 19, 1845, and opened July 1, leading to the abandonment of the old connection to the B&L (later reused by the B&L for their Wildcat Branch). In 1848 another original section was abandoned, as a new alignment was built from Wilmington north to North Andover in order to better serve Lawrence. A new alignment to Portland opened in 1873, splitting from the old route at South Berwick. The old route was later abandoned. As the B&M grew, it also gained control of its former rivals. These acquisitions included the following: Eastern The Eastern Railroad was leased by the B&M on December 23, 1883. This provided a second route to Maine, as well as many local branches, ending competition along the immediate route between Boston and Portland. Worcester, Nashua and Portland The Worcester and Nashua Railroad was organized in 1845 (opened 1848) and the Nashua and Rochester Railroad in 1847, forming a line between Worcester, Massachusetts and Rochester, New Hampshire via Nashua. The W&N leased the N&R in 1874, and the two companies merged into the Worcester, Nashua and Rochester Railroad in 1883. The B&M leased the line on January 1, 1886. This acquisition also included the continuation from Rochester to Portland, Maine, incorporated in 1846 as the York and Cumberland Railroad. It opened partially in 1851 and 1853, was reorganized as the Portland and Rochester Railroad in 1867, and opened the rest of the way in 1871. It was again reorganized in 1881 and then operated in conjunction with the line to Worcester. Boston and Lowell On April 1, 1887 the B&M leased the Boston and Lowell Railroad, adding not only trackage in the Boston area, but also the Central Massachusetts Railroad west to Northampton, the Boston, Concord and Montreal Railroad into northern New Hampshire, the St. Johnsbury and Lake Champlain Railroad to northwestern Vermont, and the Connecticut and Passumpsic Rivers Railroad from White River Junction into Quebec. However, the BC&M was separated in 1889 and merged with the Concord Railroad to form the Concord and Montreal Railroad, which the B&M leased on April 1, 1895, gaining the Concord Railroad's direct line between Nashua and Concord. Additionally, the St. Johnsbury and Lake Champlain Railroad, owned by the B&M through stock, was leased to the Maine Central Railroad by 1912. The Central Massachusetts Railroad stayed a part of the B&M, as did the Connecticut and Passumpsic Rivers Railroad (as the Passumpsic Division). Northern The Northern Railroad was leased to the Boston and Lowell in 1884, but that lease was cancelled and the Northern was on its own until 1890, when it was released to the B&L, then part of the B&M. The Northern owned a number of lines running west from Concord. Connecticut River On January 1, 1893, the B&M leased the Connecticut River Railroad, with a main line from Springfield, Massachusetts nor
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Four Seasons Blend today) round the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas still at $2.89 this a.m., and the "getting up" temperature was 53 degrees. Red Sox have played some interesting baseball of late for certain. Om is pleased with certain football results (she's a diehard Ohio State fan), and the Mountaineers played well although their defense is a little questionable.
Lars has made many bookmobile runs. The Electric Way Across the Mountains is outstanding! It is in a second edition (as shown by the cover) with some revamped pages, new material etc. The interesting part about this book is that it has a lot of "mechanical material" as well as some excellent photography. Willis McCaleb worked for the Nickel Plate for years as a safety person and photographer. There are a couple of volumes of his NKP photography out there and they are well worth looking at. Art Mitchell's B&M book is a good one, and the CV Banana Belt volume is a real "sleeper," I recommend this one if you have not seen it. OSP would like it as a lot of the story centers around New London - quite the rail center back in the day.
The Monon publication had an interesting picture as it showed the r/b US Army hospital cars which the Monon turned into passenger equipment in their own shops. How many out there remember the Army cars that Amtrak converted into lounges?
Rest of the books we have commented on before in other posts. Incidentally, the GM&O book is o/p but available (at a substantial price).
Mike stopped by with Jimmie Rodgers material - many thanks!
DL is with us, too. Enjoyed the beginning of your travelogue. I used to like to go to Spadina back when it was active. Friendly folks and lots of picture opportunities. Speaking of Canada, remind me to tell the story about the Smiths Falls turntable when we gather at the next rendezvous.
Pete - The Louisville and Nashville ran steam between Louisville and Birmingham w/o stopping for coal and/or water. This was not, however, a common practice on all of their trains.
Allan visited - good to hear from you.
Jan - Sent more MILW material. Check out the Steinheimer book I mentioned earlier of you haven't seen it. Picture of Sixteen, MT was a good one. I especially enjoyed the shot of the MILW passenger train in Iowa - study that one, folks - you will never see the like of it again. BTW, no orders for trains when the photographer made the picture.
James also sent MILW information.
Eric sent along comments. Key System is in San Francisco. I enjoyed the picture of the 0-8-0 with the plow pilot. I imagine that loco. Could pull the paint of the walls. Incidentally, there is a USRA 0-8-0 in N scale due out a little later this year.
The shop picture is of an electric down to its unmentionables. More than that, I cannot add.
OSP - The Aerotrain picture is not in my office - that one is at the house. Man Liens of Commerce is a fall scene on the Middle Division with steam locomotives and an A-B set of E7s with a passenger train,
I know what you mean, Hagar - I go to meetings with the "Lord High Executioners" and think, "I knew you when." It's a great antidote to folks taking themselves too seriously.
Alaska shots are nice to see (always) and we have some good "moom pictures" at the Theatuh.
Let's see we have some Budd cars. You show three of the four types of Budds owned by the B&M. 6114 and 6304 were both taken at North Station in Boston. 6202 is a tough one as there is not much background, so I'll take a mulligan on that one. Here's a rerun of a B&M pos I did awhile back.
Boston and Maine - The Way It Was
Think of the Boston and Maine and you think of utilitarian North Station; a building that crouched along Causeway Street, hemmed in by the elevated trolley tracks and the Manger Hotel and surmounted by Boston Garden.
I always associated North Station with winter even though I traveled from there in all seasons. Maybe it was the name - North Station - that made me think of ice-encrusted freight cars, steam-heated passenger coaches, and trains plowing through deep snow "up country."
North Station's lobby was neither large nor ornate. It was a low, wide space, somewhat dark, with ticket windows on one side and train gates on the other. It was not a space designed for travelers to spend much time. Buying tickets was simple; tell the agent where you wanted to go, push the money under the bars in the window and get your ticket and change back with minimal conversation and no wasted motion; a truly New England process.
To the trains, then, ticket in hand. Umbrella sheds protected the platforms and it was always cold under the sheds in the winter and cool under the sheds in the summer. From North Station, the B&M sent commuter trains to the suburbs and long haul runs to all corners of northern New England, west to New York State, and into Canada. Passengers could not see much as the tracks were close together and it was dark so the scope of operations at North Station was not apparent until a train cleared the umbrella sheds and moved out into an area that was a little more open.
North Station was a busy place with cars and locomotives come to the big city from Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Canada. There was also a horde of commuter trains. In the morning, empty trains backed out of the station as loaded trains arrived. In the evening, this complicated ballet occurred again. Loaded outbound trains threaded their way among empty trains backing down from the coach yard to the station.
The station tracks quickly narrowed to a pair of drawbridges; truly a yard "throat." A tower just past the bridges controlled all of the activity. Bridge tenders were responsible for raising the bridges to allow shipping to pass, which was mostly tows of barges. The tracks fanned out after crossing the bridges. Mystic was next.
Mystic was truly the operational heart of the Boston and Maine. Across the Charles River from North Station, Mystic was in the shadows of the grim walls of what the newspapers always called the "infamous Massachusetts State Prison at Charlestown." Mystic combined freight yards, team tracks, and a coach yard. The Boston Engine Terminal was part of the larger Mystic facility.
The names on the cars in the coach yard told where the B&M went and the places it served. There were coaches, lounge cars, sleepers, RPOs and baggage cars from the Canadian Pacific, Boston and Maine, and Maine Central. Commuter coaches were, of course, most numerous.
The B&M (in common with other New England lines) terminated a lot more freight than it originated, so many offline cars were interspersed with home road cars. So, framed by the coach window, I could see cars from far away roads. They snapped by like slides; Chicago and North Western "Route of the 400s," Milwaukee Road, Santa Fe, SLSF "Ship It On the Frisco," Union Pacific, Baltimore and Ohio, Chesapeake and Ohio. There were a lot of cars from eastern roads; Pennsylvania (with the keystone and lined PRR letters), New Haven, Maine Central, B&M, of course, and New York Central. Dull red (boxcar red or tuscan) was the predominant color although refrigerator cars were yellow or orange and there were some red, white and blue "State of Maine" cars to break up the monotony.
Sometimes there would be cuts of ratty looking single dome tank cars or loaded and empty coal cars on the yard tracks. There were also indescribably filthy hide cars in the yard along with livestock cars with open, slatted sides. Gondolas were there, too, with loads of scrap of other cargo in large wooden crates. There I could see flat cars with loads of machinery or other equipment, sometimes in the open and sometimes covered with tarps. In any case, freight on flat cars was blocked and tied down to keep the loads from shifting.
The engine terminal was a wondrous combination of steam and diesel engines of different types. At the clangorous steam shop, the fleet of aging Pacifics, Atlantics, and Moguls received inspections and running repairs. I also saw 4-8-2s at the steam shop. These engines had enormous pedestal tenders. The diesel house, newer and much cleaner than the steam shop, handled all types of Alco RS-type units, and EMD E units from passenger trains and FTs and geeps from freights.
The B&M's splendid red and gold color scheme was highlighted by a herald of the Concord Minute Man. B&M engines shared terminal space with Maine Central's green and gold units that came down from the north on passenger trains. Painted a light green, an E unit's engine compartment was hot and noisy even when the engine was idling.
Steam engines pulled commuter trains when I was very small. Diesel power replaced steam in the mid 50s. Every business day a fleet of Alco RS and EMD GP7-powered trains converged on North Station to discharge a host of businessmen, secretaries and others who worked in the city. The B&M's wine-red commuter cars were, at best, spartan. Air conditioning did not exist as steam heat tried to subdue New England's winters and open windows did their best to cope with summer heat and humidity.
A caste system applied on commuter trains as "regular" passengers, who were on a first-name basis with the train crew, sat in certain seats. Casual riders made sure not to deprive regulars of their seats. Tickets were stuck into hatbands (men wore hats then) or inserted into clips on the tops of the coach seats. This system allowed trainmen to pass through the cars to collect tickets without disturbing the passengers who read, napped, or played cards. The cars had walkover seats whose backs could be flipped to accommodate groups of up to four passengers who played on wooden or composition lapboards big enough to hold the cars and/or score pads depending on what the game was. I don't recall there ever being any clear winners or losers, and the game clearly had been going on for a long time.
The train was now past Mystic. There was still a fair amount of manufacturing in the Boston area when I was a child, and I always liked the factory buildings with their rail sidings that seemed to be so close to the main line.
Historians tell us that the Boston and Maine was cobbled together from other small (and large) lines including the Fitchburg Railroad, the "original" Boston and Maine, the Boston and Lowell and the Eastern RR. Many of these predecessor lines had absorbed other roads which accounted for the skein of branch lines around Boston. You could see some of this near the yards at North Station as the tracks suddenly diverged; some heading north by east to the suburbs and northern destinations. The Fitchburg Division turned west through industrial cities, towns and suburbs, and into open country to eventually pass through the frightening Hoosac Tunnel and on to the impossibly far reaches of eastern New York to places such as Mechanicville, Troy, and Rotterdam Junction.
The train passed through a series of block-lined cuts. These stone blocks were grimy from the passage of countless trains. Water was in the ditches beside the tracks here; no matter how hot the weather. There were high wooden fences atop the cuts and three-decker houses were close to the tracks just beyond the fences.
Our train was now on the Fitchburg Division, but not for long as we switched over to the farthest right track to get onto the Lexington (Bedford) Branch which began just east of where the Alewife Brook Parkway crossed over the B&M on the Fresh Pond bridge. Now we were heading northwest and a runaround track was on our left. The train clanked across the Freight Cut Off, a line that served as a route for oversize loads to and from Boston as well as a secondary freight line. The track now passed through a low, swampy area with high grass and cattails. Immediately after the swamp, the track passed beneath Route 2. A trailing switch here led back to the Freight Cut Off. The train slowed and a crewman dropped off to flag us over the crossing to our station stop at Lake Street.
After passengers detrained we got underway again. A passing track ran from Lake Street to Pond Lane and we could see Spy Pond on our left, its water sparkling through the trees. Here the train passed through a landscape of backyards and light industrial buildings. Past Lake Street, outbound trains encountered a 5½ mile long grade which lasted until just beyond North Lexington. It was enough to make the locomotive work, but not so steep as to require any special operational restrictions.
Arlington Centre was next. The branch crossed Massachusetts Avenue where the crossing was controlled by a traffic light activated by a key carried by a trainman. The train stopped and waited for the signal to clear before it clumped across the street. The Arlington Centre stop was just past the crossing. There was a small yard, but I don't recall ever seeing much activity there. A small bridge carried us over Mill Brook past another set of sidings. Brattle Station was next. Now we ran through alternate patches of woodland, wet areas and suburban homes. The vegetation was sometimes so close to the tracks that it slapped against the sides of the cars as we passed by. There were more sidings along the route, many with boxcars or refrigerator cars spotted on them. We entered Lexington right after passing under the Park Avenue bridge and by the site of the Arlington Heights station. The engine was working as we had climbed 130 feet in elevation since departing Lake Street. There used to be a station at Brattle Street, but it was long gone. Not so Lexington which had five stations: East Lexington, Pierce's Bridge, Monroe, Lexington, and North Lexington.
The Lexington station was a white wooden structure. It was one of the few stations in New England to have a train shed. Under the shed it was dark and damp and smelled of oil, creosote, and coal smoke from engines that had passed long ago. The platform was cement and dirt; mostly dirt. A taxi company occupied the north end of the station. The rest of the building was devoted to railroad business.
A small yard east of the station handled cars picked up and set off by local freights. Other industries scattered along the branch, such as coal and lumber yards usually received loads. The lumber yard received aromatic loads of wood from Canada and the west. Local trains spotted coal hoppers at different industries along the branch.
More than a few residents still heated with coal so anthracite often came on Lexington branch trains. There was a small coal yard in North Lexington that had a wooden storage facility. Metal signs advertised the different brands of coal that were available such as Blue Coal, Reading Anthracite, and D&H Anthracite. These signs were very colorful with red and white, blue and white, and blue and orange lettering. Conveyors carried the coal to different pockets where it would be loaded into trucks that carried the coal to the customer.
In late November, from Canada, came my favorite cars, loaded with fragrant Christmas trees. The cars of trees did not arrive until late November because back then the Christmas holidays did not "officially" start until after Thanksgiving.
The branch also originated cars. There used to be farmland in Lexington and farmers raised broccoli and celery and shipped their produce by rail. On the siding behind the station, I saw ice cooled wooden Pacific Fruit Express or Western Fruit Express refrigerator cars being loaded with loamy smelling wooden crates of celery. The refrigerator cars had orange or yellow sides with brown or black ends and tops. The cars had logos from foreign lines such as Union Pacific, Santa Fe, or Great Northern. Men loaded ice through the car's roof hatches into bunkers.
This activity presented a better geography lesson than in any schoolbook because it gave me a sense of the ecology of the railroad - how the branch was part of a larger system that brought products from the outside to our town and sent other products out to the rest of the world.
Lexington Branch trains tied up at Bedford. I remember going with my father on different weekend errands and seeing cuts of cars and red and gold diesels spotted by the Bedford station. These engines were RS3s or GP7s. Later on, of course, the diesel hauled trains were replaced by Budd cars.
Check out these web sites for additional B&M information - they are very detailed and well-organized; some with vintage pictures and video clips as well.
Friends of Bedford Depot
http://www.bedforddepot.org/
Unofficial Boston and Maine Page
http://www.faracresfarm.com/jbvb/rr/bmrr/b_and_m.html
work safe
Greetings Young Master Tom and fellows youths....
An extra Cold Guinness for me and a LARGE top up for the lads, please. Puts some $ in the tip jar and jukebox.
Tom, not to worry son you haven't lost me. I was just sneaking a wee peek into the MR section of the forums. Have wee interest in HO as well. I'm afraid that you fellas are stuck with me here, like it or not.... I don't htink that I'll leave anytime soon and as you said, I wouldn't leave without saying goodbye and all that, that's good manners, right? As for the "Marine Gunnery Sergeant" we had an officer in my Ranger regiment that had been with the French Foreign Legion TWICE, to me they're both just as "bad"
For the youngster here in the bar, Da Larsman, I'm really sorry if I didn't say anything about the posts that's been done while I was AWOL. But, what can you say, all yours and everybody elses posts here are always top notch, great to read and with fantastic pics to go with... That's a few hard acts for me to follow. I don't that big a feet you know...
Once again please do accept my humble apologies gentlemen,
And to make things a wee bit better, I have a treat for this Friday! Swedish Smorgasbord! I thought that Friday would be the best day, since you'll probably need two days to digest all the good stuff.....
And of course some more Milwaukee Road!
The old Milwaukee Road railroad depot, built in 1886 and razed in 1965, was on W. Everett St. between N. Third and N. Fourth streets in downtown Milwaukee.
The Chicago, Milwaukee, and St. Paul Railroad Station at 3rd Street and Washington Avenue in 1901. This is the present day Milwaukee Depot, minus the elaborate 40 foot-high decorative cupola. (The depot has recently been renovated to become a hotel, indoor waterpark, and ice skating complex.)
Milwaukee Railroad Hudson #103 is seen on a streamliner about to depart Chicago Union Station at the Canal Street Curve.
In this late 1940's shot a Hiawatha train pauses with E7's on the point at Madrid, Iowa. For the most part, everything in this view is gone....
A strong Milwaukee Railroad 4-8-4 #264 does the duty on a long freight drag near Deerfield, Illinois, 1949.
And so it's Tuesday, but feels like Monday in a 4-day work week, that'll be longer than most! Figure that one out, eh
Well, one thing remains steady ‘round this place - the start of the day! Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh ‘n ready! While you're at it, order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Hope the Labor Day weekend was relaxing for all who had the luxury of an extra day to "chill."
Lars (LoveDomes) at 1:36 PM ‘n 4:01 PM Monday - Sep 3rd: Our Manager has surely picked up the pace since Wolfman Pete departed for his 2-weeks on the left coast! Many thanx, Lars for the extra effort!
Suggest you go a bit easy on the lad from Scotland - he's doing what he can, plus he's a bit on the hyper-active side with his own topics. Can't have it all, eh
What's to say about your choices in covers over the weekend ‘n yesterday OUTSTANDING comes to mind!
Jan (JanOlov) at 2:17 PM Monday - Sep 3rd: How would a Swedish Scot know anything about a U.S. Marine Gunnery Sergeant Something we don't know ?????? <girn>
Can't blame our Manager for thinking you gave up on the bar, after all when guys Post everywhere but here, well - what's one to think, eh We've been through this so many times with so many people that the best I can come up with is: we KNOW who the regulars are from the irregulars!
Not to worry, I'll keep you on the "books" ‘til you decide to move on . . . at least give us a fairwell though - which is far more than many have done. Figure you've got more "class" than that, eh
Appreciate the "top up" . . .
Allan (Gunneral) at 9:19 PM Monday - Sep 3rd: I shudda known that about NZ ‘n Labour Day! <geesh> Thanx for the update!!
Pete will be riding the rails from LA to KCity, MO on the return leg of his 2-week getaway . . . Hope Amtrak treats 'em well! <uh oh>
Glad you're enjoying the material Posted at "Our" Place !
Appreciate the visit, double-round ‘n chat - link too!
James (CMSTPP) at 10:03 PM Monday - Sep 3rd: Our Duluth Connection is heard from ‘n with quite a bit of discussion.
ARR uses the same locos for freight ‘n passenger service. We traveled on 3 trains during our journey and the rides were as smooth as one could ever want. The journeys to ‘n from Fairbanks had a total of 9 UltraDomes, plus 5 standard size cars, all jammed with passengers. That's a lot of weight, perhaps far more than Amtrak experiences. But anyway, ARR does it right ‘n knows how to appeal to ‘n please the traveler.
RR BOOK RELAY 2007! is underway, as previously mentioned on these Pages. Once your Email is received, you're "in."
Visit ‘n chat appreciated!
Eric (EricX2000) at 12:59 AM today - Sep 4th: Can fully appreciate your feelings regarding baseball . . . we've gone through those periods too, but for slightly different reasons. Major league baseball ‘n the Commissioner specifically have totally turned me off for years ‘n years. Began a few decades back with the strike that pretty much destroyed my mini-season ticket package for the Cardinals, followed some years later by the season "that wasn't" when the playoffs ‘n world series were dropped, and it goes on ‘n on. We spend very few dollars at the ballpark . . . Glad we didn't go yesterday - they embarrassed themselves, big time!
We prefer sausages with our pancakes, but every now ‘n then a few s
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, is the party still going on in the back? Don't they know what time it is? Yeah, please just a black cup of coffee, thank you!
Busy day this Labor Day! But I finally got some things done. Not too much of activities here at the bar. Except in the back, of course. This time of the day?
Lars – I wonder why you showed up at the Bar on a Sunday? Admin work? Didn’t see Ruth though. Hmmm. Continueing the Alaska “theme” with a nice video! Plus a mix of books, B&O and Boston & Maine and others! Including a sad book for DL and Pete, The Last Years of British Rail! Plus even more books! Key System Gallery? What railroad was that? I like that Northern Pacific Pictorial book! Domes, RDCs and Slumbercoaches! As I have said so many times before, there are so many good books out there!!! Mike – Don’t regret anything. Sometimes things go wrong. Ask Captain Murphy (no relation to Captain Tom). Murphy’s Laws say it all!DL – You are right, pancakes and bacon don’t mix! They should always be kept apart! Toronto’s new streetcar design was exactly what I was afraid it would be. I can’t help it, but in my opinion a streetcar should never be streamlined.Thank you for your report checking the Canadian departure! That picture gave a good view of what it once looked like! Tom – A route guide sounds like a very good idea! I certainly like to know what places are called when I pass through new, for me, unknown areas. I am afraid we will not even try to get any tickets to see any Snake games. We actually feel betrayed by Diamondbacks, the way they behaved after winning the World Series in 2001. And the new owners a few years ago did not make things better.Tragic accident being hit in the eye. I certainly hope that it will turn out not being that bad so it will end his career. Interesting info on Boston & Maine!! Considering the milage (in 1950) they had quite a few locomotives (in 1963). There was one locomotive for every 7 miles of track! Nice pictures of the RDC’s!! Allan – I am doing just fine, thanks! Going to see the doc this morning and should be OK to go back to work after that. James – I would consider Class F a medium size locomotive, but it is hard to see as it is hiding behind the Class B. The roundhouse is in located Sweden.
This is....?
G-day Tom and all present!!
Leon- a coffee for me please, and a small turkey sandwich, Thanks. Keep the change.
Tom- Well, if i have to start all over, then so be it. I like talking about trains and railroads. It's a fun past time.
Nice pics from Alaska. Those SD70s sure look nice in that blue and yellow.... But I thought it was weird that they were using them on passenger trains. I have not seen Amtrak do this. I suppose they need a locomotive that can handle constant climbing all day long.. The SD70 would be the right loco to do it with. They are a gutsy locomotive. They pull like a nothing else but they are rough riding. Thanks for the neat pics.
Also some good stuff on the Boston and Maine. There RDCs sure looked nice. I have always enjoyed seeing these locos. I really like seeing them MUed together. They make quite a show. Great pics.
Hmm, interesting book you have there. I have not heard of it before. I will have to get an email out to you. Sounds like fun to me.
Lars- Neat little article o9n the BESA Class 4-6-0. Some of those stats help in understanding how much the little steamer could handle. As you've probably noticed before, I have mentioned that little steamers are my favorites and this is one of them. They are such neat little locomotives. I have seen some videos were these little guys would work hard with switching and they worked them non stop. ( Not the british steamers, even though they are just as neat looking) And did I mention they sounded great. Neat, thanks for sharing.
As mentioned before, I always enjoy looking at your book and movie covers. Always something neat to see there. I would really like to see that Alaska railway movie. All of those GPs with there 567 engines... So wonderful. Also the Great Northern book caught my eye. The W1 on the cover was a really neat looking electric. They were a little more powerful then the Little Joe because of the front axles being powered. Meaning all axles were powered The Little Joe had only 8 axles powered out of 12, so the W1 could traverse the mountains better. But hey, I still like the Milwaukee Little Joe. And of course, A Milwaukee book just for me. I feel important now, Thanks Lars
Eric- See, Some nice small steam engines. That Class B and Class F are perfect. They are so cool. Good pic there. Also a good shot of that round house. You certainly don't see a lot of those here. But I'm glad to see some still around in GB. Thanks for the neat pics.
DL- A good article on the street cars they are gouing to be putting up in Toronto. Things like these street cars help reduce all the car jams. Trains and street cars are such a more effective traveling device that most people stilol don't use or understand that. For me, when the Commuter train between Minneapolis and Duluth is in place, I will try to use it every time I go between the two cities. It's just a more convenient (I think that's how you spell that) way to travel. I can't wait. To bad about the financial cuts. I'm sure that doesn't help the situation at all. Hopefully they can sort things out. Thanks for sharing.
Allan- I would like to see my name on the side of one of those ballast wagons. That is an awesome restoration project underway. That will be one neat little railroad when they complete it. Hopefully that's not to far down the track. Update us when you can. Neat website. Thanks.
More to come later.
Happy railroading
James
Hi Tom and all,
Tui`s all round please Leon to celebrate Labour Day, make it a double round for this special day!
Tom. Enjoyed all your write up`s and pics, great info on the B&O. We celebrate Labour day on Monday Oct 22nd over here in NZ, we have a great long weekend as the Provincial Anniversary Day for Hawkes Bay is on Friday Oct 19th.
Thought you would be interested in a bit of NZ railway history about the "Fell" railway they ran here, they are going to try to rebuild it sometime in the future?
http://www.rimutaka-incline-railway.org.nz/index.html
Lars. What a great selection of book covers you posted, nice pic of the SF "Blue Goose" in colour too, enjoyed all the info on your posts.
Eric. How are you going mate? Enjoyed your posts and pics.
Dan. Good to see your return from the Canadian trip, looking forward to hearing more about it, sounds as if you took advantage of the public transport over there.
Pete. If you read this have a great trip to California, are you getting to ride the rails?
Jan. How in the heck do you manage to put all those posts on the forums mate?
Ron,Cm3,Dave,James,Mike,Fergie must be taking advantage of the holiday weekend.
See ya, Allan
Ruth my deAH, must be lonely in here with everyone out back . . . I've noticed all of the Gals from "Our" Place have shown up today - even Da Bosses lady, Cindy is helpin' out in the tent!
I'll sit a spell with you, my deAH ‘n enjoy one of those frosty mugs of Rheingold if you please! Got a bit warm out there with the brats, burgers ‘n hot dogs on the grill. Boris ‘n Leon wanted to help out, but I feared they'd incinerate themselves in those clown suits! <geesh> Kids are havin' a blast chasing ‘em ‘round the outback . . .
Appears my comments shook Jan outtadatree! But NO comments about ANY of the postings since your last visit?!?!?!?
Wee Man!?!!? Are you kiddin' me?!?!? Haven't been referred to in that manner since Moby Dick was a minnow! <grimace> You did a nice job with the brass rail polishing chores! <grin>
Now to see if we can get Ron, Eric ‘n Allan to stop by on this Labor Day!
Looks like a good time to drop off a few more book ‘n video covers, just to pass the time, huh
. . . and something to rekindle memories from my youth!
Pedro is back ‘n the Mets win again!
Until the next time!
Lars
Greetings Tom and fellow railroad-riding hobos,
An extra cold Guinness for me and a top up for the young lads....please.
Tom and everybody, great posts as always....
Da Larsman, not to worry wee man, I'm just hiding in the corner of the bar licking my wounds after Tom's drill.... He's worse than a Marine Gunnery Sergeant!
Now, if you excuse me lads.....
Ruth my deAH, I surely thought you'd take the day OFF - after all, Da Boss said the staff could "chill" today, but I see the dedication is showing!
So what's with Jan Olov lately? Seen him all over the forum, but not at the bar. Hmmmmm. To be a regular you gotta BE regular! Well, if you're a "goner," it's been fun. Good luck to ya, mate!
I'll be heading back out to the tent in a bit, so fill ‘er up if you will - Schaefer is fine. Boris, that clown suit is a riot! I think the crittAHs will go in the attack mode at feeding time! So be careful . . .
Hey Bossman - nice B&M post! Love the RDC spate too. Bet we get some comments from Shane in the Tuesday morning visit!
Just wanted to show some support for the bar, so I'll let it go with a few more book covers!
Hey Dan! Good to see ya ‘n enjoyed your Toronto musings. Looking forward to more!
A few book covers to tide the gang ovAH . . .
METS are lookin' GOOD!
Appears as if most of our customers are outback - even though the festitivies don't begin 'til noon - we've been replacing the kegs at a brisk rate! <grin>
In absence of any activity, thought a Blast from the Past would be appropriate for when our guyz return.
Here's another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads :
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #22
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 139 of the Original Thread>
Boston & Maine (B&M)
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Boston & Maine (B&M) - (passenger ops)
Headquarters: Boston, MA
Mileage:
1950: 1,700 1995: 1,350
Locomotives in 1963: Diesel: 235
Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 5,490 Passenger - 155
Principal routes in 1950:
Boston-Dover, MA-Portland, ME
Boston-White River Junction, VT
Boston, MA-Troy, NY
Boston-Portsmouth, NH-Portland, ME
Springfield, MA-Berlin, NH
Worcester-Lowell Junction, MA
Worcester-Gardner, MA
South Ashburnham, MA-Bellows Falls, VT
Dover, NH-Intervale, NH
Passenger trains of note:
Alouette (Boston-Montreal, QC)
Ambassador (New York & Boston-Montreal)
Cheshire (Boston-White River Junction)
Day White Mountains (New York-Berlin, NH)
Flying Yankee (Boston-Bangor, ME
Green Mountain Flyer (Boston-Montreal
The Gull (Boston-Halifax, NS)
Kennebec (Boston-Portland-Bangor)
Minute Man (Boston-Troy, NY)
Montrealer & Washingtonian (Washington-Montreal)
Mountaineer (Boston-Littleton & Bethlehem, NH)
Pine Tree (Boston-Portland-Bangor)
Red Wing (Boston-Montreal)
State of Maine (New York-Portland)
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RDCs of the B&M <foto credits: unknown>
RDC-1 <foto credit: unknown>
RDC-2 <foto credit: unknown>
RDC-3 <foto credit: unknown>
Enjoy!
Tom
A smile to begin the week!
Steve McQueen looks good in this movie. He must have made it before he died.
<A Yogi-ism!>
A holiday Monday here at the Saloon by the Siding. That tent in the outback is for our traditional Labor Day picnic ‘n fun fest, beginning at noon for customers of "Our" Place ‘n their loved ones. We're a family affair, ‘round here - ‘n that's why Boris ‘n Leon have their clown suits on - well, almost on. Boris - ZIP up! <geesh> Fireworks at dusk!
Traditional bill o' fare this AM with freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee - pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case along with our <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts from the Menu Board.
Today's a day to "chill" ‘n think about how nice it is NOT having to toil for the bucks on Monday!
Some may have taken note of some "things" Posted on Saturday that have been seen before - that's why it's called ENCORE! Saturday! <geesh>
Also like to use the 1st of the month as an opportunity to remind the guyz of "things" happening . . . . B'day Watch List - RR BOOK RELAY 2007! - etc.
Mike (wanswheel) at 9:37 AM Saturday - Sep 1st: A "boat load" of URLs - some C&W info ‘n a round from Silent Mike.
Jan (JanOlov) at 9:41 AM Saturday - Sep 1st: With toothbrush ‘n brass polish in hand, our Resident Swedish Scot has arrived for "duty"!
Sixteen, Montana - now there's a place for a holiday! Noooooooooot! <grin> Never heard of the place - but why is THAT surprising
Noted that you're working hard to make that interim Chief Chef job PERMANENT! Nice going!
Round appreciated!
Eric (EricX2000) at 8:16 PM Saturday Sep 1st: A route guide was provided to the passengers who booked Gold Star service aboard ARR. That helped in knowing where we were by mile marker ‘n what to look for. There were very few PA announcements in the UltraDome, which was a nice touch.
Glad you're enjoying the Alaska trip fotos!
Didn't think you could make it out here again this year - but it would be grand if you could. The fall is a wonderful time in these parts!
Heard that Phoenix has set a heat record for August! <phew> Thought we had too, but apparently whoever reported that was in error. Thanx to some below 90s (F) temps at the end of the month, we did NOT average high enough to establish a record. Still was the hottest I recall for mid-continent USA - 3rd highest, so "they" say! <ugh>
Cardinals will be heading out to engage the Snakes in your part of the world. Maybe you can get some tickets - should be a good series. September baseball can be the best to watch . . . We lost two key players for the remainder of the season - Scott Rolen with his pending shoulder surgery (3rd since 2005) ‘n Juan Encarnacion with what may very well be a career ending injury to his left eye. Took a direct hit from a foul ball while waiting in the on-deck circle . . . Been a disasterous season for the Red Birds in more than a few ways - and yet they still are in the hunt. Very odd division, fer sure, fer sure.
Appears you popped back in for an early AM "edit," eh Anyway, Pix rounded out your Post quite well - thanx!!
Thanx for the visit ‘n enjoy the holiday weekend!
Mike (wanswheel) at 2:09 PM Sunday - Sep 2nd: Admin comments . . .
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:45 AM ‘n 4:11 PM Sunday - Sep 2nd: Two visits slipped thru the slots! Mighty fine book covers, something to entertain the guys AND a new name for "Our" Place I note. WATERING HOLE BY THE WAYSIDE - creative juices must've been flowing on Sunday!
Thansk for the drink Lars - I'll take you up on that later in the day!
Once again, a pancake breakfast for me - just juice and coffee today - no bacon, thanks.
Looks like I just caught Pete on his way out west - maybe he'll be more lucky than me with an ability to report in whilst he's away - but then again holidays can be pretty busy times as I recently found out - and if a ‘puter is not handy then there's not much you can do about it!
I've had a look through some of the more recent pages, and will study others gradually as I have time. Thanks Tom for your quick briefing, and also I found James' Olympian Hi post interesting, and Mike's recent post good stuff.
I'll no doubt pick up on other things as I discover them!
Anyway, as people will recall, part of my visit to Toronto was to attend to family business which is what limited my ability to do all the things I'd hoped for.
However, after arrival and a journey down town on the TTC bus and subway (pretty strange that the airport does not have any sort of subway or rail access given it is now such a large airport - but no doubt there is some local politics involved in that) - we headed out to the suburb where we were staying. I must say TTC staff are in general very friendly and helpful with directions etc - the bus driver on the last leg of our journey (when we were the only passengers left on the bus for the last few streets) offering some handy tourist advice to us of events due to happen over the next few days.
I discovered whilst there that the TTC is planning new streetcar designs to replace the more traditional style streetcars - and planning new lines. Although I did not see them the competing designs were currently on show at the Canadian National Exhibition - one of the designs is here:
http://www.canada-digital.com/NewsArticle.aspx?articleid=1740
Sadly the TTC were also consulting about service cuts due to a financial crisis that they are facing - no doubt Rob would know more of this but as he seems rather busy these days he may not read this. I could not establish if this was ‘political brinkmanship' or genuine risk of cuts - but amongst other speculated cut backs was the suggestion that the (rather new) subway line (Shepherd Subway) might have to close / be mothballed to meet budget restrictions.
I certainly think the TTC operates a superb service - making the vast majority of this vast (by UK standards) urban area easily accessible though a coherent and properly integrated transit system. However, it is the case that some of the subway station are looking a little ‘tired' with significant need for extra cleansing and tidying up of cosmetic damage to fittings, ceilings, glazed areas etc. A real shame. On top of this some vehicles in the road bus fleet are certainly showing their age.
Anyway - an early rise brought about by mixed up time (ie jet lag) made it very easy for me to get down town on the first Saturday morning to see The Canadian depart for Vancouver at 9am (it leaves three days per week).
Obviously you can't get on to the station platforms for a decent look so my plan was to head out the back of the station - not too far from the CN Tower, where you could look over the head ends of the platforms and see the trains. I found an area just between a bit of landscaped park and a construction site (all quet this early on a Saturday) and a lump of old concrete I could climb up on to get a good view. This part of Toronto - which had once been all rail yards - se this pic here:
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/CPR_Toronto/aerial_1960.jpg
Which I think also illustrates the John Street Roundhouse which is now preserved - albeit isolated from rail yards - with some parts destined to be a small rail museum and another part is occupied by the Steam Whistle Brewery - another chunk is to become retail - which will fund the rail museum section - although this will be very little more than about 5 or 6 roads of the shed for the museum I think - but a down town rail museum in walking distance of Union station would be a good attraction.
This whole area is undergoing ‘regeneration' which lost of large apartment blocks being built in the area between the rail lines and the lake - now the lake shore is presumably no longer used for industrial purposes.
Anyway - I had plenty of time to look as The Canadian left Union station about 20 minutes late (not a good start I thought!) - with a consist of about 20 cars including baggage cars, I think 4 (certainly 3) Skyline dome cars and of course the Dome / Bullet Observation Park Car bringing up the rear. The Stainless Steel cars were looking their best in the brilliant sunshine - and of course the whole train does look impressive, with 2 VIA locomotives at the head.
Whilst waiting I was able to see at least 1 or 2 GO trains arriving / departing Union station which added to the interest value.
Following this we headed off to Lawrence Market (a great old fashioned market hall) where inside the market is a great diner / bar where we could get our first proper Canadian breakfast. All in all a good way to start the vacation!
More in due course!
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!
And another spate of covers for this lonely day at our favorite watering hole by the wayside!
. . . . . and from my FAVORITE railroad!!
METS SWEPT THE BRAVES! [yeah]
Regret data dump, got carried away. I fixed it. Love that old-timey music from the 1920s. Lars thanks again for Banana Belt book cover.
Mike
Nothing more lonely than our friendly tavern all CLOSED up for the day . . . So, here's a little something rolled up ‘n slipped through the mail slot on the front door - a post for SUNDAY!
Surely don't know what I was THImKING yesterday with the picnic 'n stuff!! That's MONDAY, huh <geesh> I hear memory is the SECOND thing to go . . .
Hey Tom - RR Book Relay arrived in good shape! Got it in the late Saturday mail. Thanks ‘n there's an e-mail confirmation sent!
The flicks at the Emporium should captivate the interests of those interested in the happenings of WWII ‘n in particular my heritage land of Norway. Good choices from Da Boss, followed of course by the return of the short subjects featuring The Three Stooges.
Wasn't a particularly busy day at the bar as only Eric, Da Boss ‘n me provided material for the pix posting ‘n Encores. Da Boyz were probably off doing "things" for this last "official" weekend of the summAH. Don't blame ‘em . . . Us We're just recouping from our "upstate" trip ‘n thinking of what's next!
A spate of covers for your enjoyment!
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I am kind of hungry so I'll have that special Filet Mignon, please! Mushrooms and all extra sidings! A frosty Keith's, thank you!
Hmm, Pete left the same day I found some more pictures of roundhouses for him. I'll try to save them for him.
Tom – Sonia! I thought it was Mona! How could I get that mixed up? Maybe she is unsing two different names to protect him? St. Louis Museum of Transportation sooner than later? Hmmm. One thing is for sure, not this year, the company used up all my remaining vacation for this year to be able to pay me 100% all these weeks since my surgery. But it certainly sounds interesting enough for next year! Class E is a slow, 40 mph, engine and I guess they decided it did not need a lot of light to see forward. The faster locomotives had 3 headlights like these two (below), Class B (front) and Class F.
Thanks for the ARR pictures! I have one question though. One picture shows when your train is passing across the Mears Memorial Bridge andTanana River. How did you learn the name of the bridge? Maybe there wwere signs or was it information distributed over the PA-system? Maybe a guide? Just curious! Good movies on the Emporium the coming week! The Heroes of Telemark and he more documentary The Real Heroes of Telemark! Very good choice! All bundled with What’s The Matador?Mike – Thanks for the Jimmie Rodgers story! No one of the http://www.museeq.com/ram/.... links worked. Just got the same message for all of them, “Couldn’t find the server”. But the music links worked just fine and I enjoyed that so much more. JanOlov – Sixteen seems to be a nice place to live! The bad thing is the winter. So I am afraid it is not for me. Thanks for the story about that tiny little town!Lars – Thanks for posting BK’s old post about the BESA 4-6-0 locomotives! A very successful design. First built in 1905 and still in service in the 1980’s!! Very interesting!
Finally a few pictures from the old country.
Southbound, 25 miles SW of Stockholm.
A roundhouse can be used for electrics as well.
Finally, a little bit snowy picture for Captain and Juneau, to keep you cool!
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . September 2nd thru 8th: The Heroes of Telemark (1965) Starring: Kirk Douglas, Richard Harris, Ulla Jacobsson, Michael Redgrave & David Weston - and - Secrets of WWII: The Real Heroes of Telemark (1998) Starring: BBC documentary. SHORT: The Three Stooges - What's The Matador? (1942).
The Heroes of Telemark (1965)
PLOT SUMMARY: During WW2 Norway was occupied by Germany. In the clear deep fjords they tried to produce "heavy" water; a vital component in the making of an atomic bomb. A weapon that would win the war for Germany. Norwegian resistance movement finds out about this and the allied are alerted. But will they have the time and opportunity to stop this from happening?
During WW2 Norway was occupied by Germany. In the clear deep fjords they tried to produce "heavy" water; a vital component in the making of an atomic bomb. A weapon that would win the war for Germany. Norwegian resistance movement finds out about this and the allied are alerted. But will they have the time and opportunity to stop this from happening?
<from: imdb.com>
Secrets of WWII: The Real Heroes of Telemark (1998)
PLOT SUMMARY: BBC documentary (B&W).
Ray Mears' BBC series on the raids is excellent. It vividly and accurately recounts the exploits of the Norwegian resistance members that sabotaged the heavy-water plant at Norsk Hydro's Vemork hydro-electricity station in German-occupied Norway. Mears with a composite team of Royal Marine arctic-warfare specialists and Norwegian soldiers from the Hærens Jeger Kommando (HJK: Norwegian special forces) re-enact elements of the raids that were carried out by the British-sponsored Norwegian sabotage teams in 1942. The series goes on to explain the actual order of events of the raids, and the lengths of time involved, and the incredibly difficult conditions that the members of the sabotage teams had had to endure and overcome.Winston Churchill was to write of these Norwegian saboteurs after the Telemark raids, "What can we do for these heroic men?" And indeed, they were heroic in the full and true sense of the word. Surviving members of the raids are interviewed in the series, and as truly heroic men often are, they show themselves to be quietly unassuming and modest in explaining what they had accomplished. They conceivably changed the entire course of the Second World War, and with it, world history. No mean feat--and nothing Hollywood could ever portray on celluloid could or would ever do them complete justice.
SHORT: The Three Stooges - What's The Matador? (1942)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are out-of-work actors who manage to wrangle themselves a job putting on their gag "bullfight" act during a fiesta in Mexico. On the bus trip to Mexico City they meet a beautiful senora named Delores, and when they run into her jealous husband at the bus stop Delores mistakenly ends up with their suitcase instead of her own. The Stooges search the city for Delores, and eventually stumble on her home. They try to get their suitcase back, and end up chased by her husband. When he later sees them at the bullfight, he arranges to have a real bull released into the arena while the Stooges are doing their act.
The Stooges are out-of-work actors who manage to wrangle themselves a job putting on their gag "bullfight" act during a fiesta in Mexico. On the bus trip to Mexico City they meet a beautiful senora named Delores, and when they run into her jealous husband at the bus stop Delores mistakenly ends up with their suitcase instead of her own. The Stooges search the city for Delores, and eventually stumble on her home. They try to get their suitcase back, and end up chased by her husband. When he later sees them at the bullfight, he arranges to have a real bull released into the arena while the Stooges are doing their act.
The Stooges search the city for Delores, and eventually stumble on her home. They try to get their suitcase back, and end up chased by her husband. When he later sees them at the bullfight, he arranges to have a real bull released into the arena while the Stooges are doing their act.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the holiday weekend! Tom
Cindy my sweet, what a lovely sight this fine day! We've got a bright clear day both on my "island" ‘n here in Mentor Village - ain't life grand <sweet>
Looks like a crowd has begun to gather in the tent - good day for a picnic! I'll be heading out there to put in a few hours dispensing food 'n drink!
Time for a frosty mug of Schaefer ‘n slide the snack tray down my way, wudja please A round on me! Ah yes, Boris - I see the crittAHs have lined up. But they don't recognize you in that clown suit. Best remove the "cherry nose" B4 Awk ‘n Tex gang up on ya - that would be a sorry sight! <grin> So go ahead, feed the gang ‘n the small jar of PPF is for YOU! Oh yes, be a bit mindful of the "after effects" of the PPF, wudja please <groan>
Mets tromped on HOTlanta yesterday! <yay> Game's on today, so I'll settle in with brew in hand ‘n watch ‘til the Sarge Mrs. bellows calls for dinnAH! <grin>
Yes - BON VOYAGE to our Bar Chandler Pete the Wolfman! "Missed" is an understatement, for sure. I nevAH saw his "chit" for leave! <geesh>
So it's a Saturday once again ‘n I'll dispense with the "in kind" platitudes of the day! But DO want to say BACK to Dan (DL-UK)! Have one on me, mate!
That's a trimmed down version of the B'day Watch List from Da Boss. BUT, if guys are going to disappear for months 'n months, that's to be expected. Can't just carry guys on the rolls without their participation. I support Da Boss!
Didn't expect to see very much going on in here for the long weekend, however, we've had surprises sprung on us in the past. NevAH say nevAH ‘round this joint, huh
Great to see that Allan in NZ has joined the RR Book Relay. Nice going, mate! Also noted that you visited Tom's other thread!
Really a sorry state with the prices you have to pay for RR mags. Exchange rate be - just plain gouging in my not-so-humble-opinion.
Is it JUST me, or are we seeing a bunch of <garbage> on the Classic Trains forums???
Had a nightmarish "flashback" moment there for awhile as I scrolled ‘n scrolled ‘n scrolled to get to the NEXT post - though 20 Fingers himself had returned. <arrrrrrggggggghhhhhh> Was just the Url guy . . .
Seems like we're getting into the kickin' music, huh I'm all for it, but as is life, too much of one thing is just, well, too much. Gotta temper it now ‘n then with a little diversionary stuff - like Punk Rock! Wonder if Nick ever colored his hair purple ‘n wore it in an upright fashion (kinda like being struck by lightning while standing knee deep in water)! <uh oh>
Nice to see the continuation of the Alaska pix from our leader! NevAH get tired of looking at those photos - enlarging, of course, is the way to go!
I've been browsing through the old site (original thread) and found all kinds of stuff for Encore material. So without further delay, here's something to enjoy on this day before Sunday!
Here's one from my "bookend" BK (BudKarr) - posted on Dec 22, 2005 (B4 I found this joint!) on page 200 on the old site . . .
Here's a little something from assorted sources from the internet regarding a class of steam locomotive operating in India many decades past. BESA Class 4-6-0 Tractive effort: 22.590lb (10,250kg). Axle load: 39,599lb (18t). Cylinders: (2) 20 ½ x 26 in (521 x 660mm). Heating surface: 1,467 sq ft (137m2). Superheater: 352sq ft (32.7m2). Steam pressure: 180lb sq in (12.7kg/cm2) Grate area: 32sq ft (3.0m2). Fuel: 16,800lb (7 ½ t). Water: 4,000gal (4,800 US) (18m3). Adhesive weight: 118,000lb (54t). Total weight: 273,000lb (124t). Length overall: 62ft 3 ¼ in (18,980mm). QUOTE: More Briti***han anything that ran in Britain, this archetypal Mail Engine gave over 75 years of service and is still actively in use. This is the British Engineering Standards Association "Heavy Passenger" 4-6-0, introduce « First«61626364656667»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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