Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH how lovely you are on this ‘n every day! <blush> I'm ready for . . . a tankard of Keiths fine ale, a Larsman hero sandwich of ham, Swiss, mustAHd ‘n buttAH along with two large ‘n extra crunchy pickles from the barrel. A round for the house ‘n the change from that fifty is YOURS!
Boris, the crittAHs are lined up - so draw a sauce of brine for Tex, a tray of seeds for Awk, a bucket of ice cubes for Frostbite, a chew bone for Juneau ‘n a field mouse for Artie <but, take him outback for THAT!!> Yes, yes - the small jar of pickled pig's feet (PPF) is YOURS!
First ‘n foremost - congrats to Da Bossman - he posted the 2,200th offering at "Our" Place. Also did the same thing ‘n number over on his other thread a couple of days ago. Busy man that Cap'n of ours. 5-tup Salute to Da Boss!
So do you suppose Wolfman Pete is glued to the windows in the sightseer lounge on this day Hope he's learned to turn his head ‘n not just look straight on . . . bad habits for modern day traveling with domes and so on. <grin> Wonder how many brews he's amassed on the voyage Probably don't have "his kind" though - so he'll have to settle for that "inferior" U.S. stuff. <grin> Hope to see him back here Monday so we can all revel in the stories of his 2 week vacation (holiday).
Interesting spattering of conversations going on - airplanes, trains, museums - all kinds of things!
Good to see some activity from Per - Eric - Dan - CM3 I'm NOT Shane! - Da Boss ‘n "some guy" called West Coast S. All good stuff since my last post . . .
Liked the SP nostalgia piece from Cap'n Tom - glad to see that the "aficionado" surfaced to make comment on it - nice drumheads, for sure!
Hey Tom! Yeah, I've wondered the same thing too about maybe being at the Gilbert & Lionel displays at the same time, but not knowing each other. Both from Staten Island at that! Could've happened - but we'll nevAH know, huh
Weekend is upon us ‘n I'm gonna "chill." Was able to talk my Mrs. out of a trip to the Keys right now. Finally got her to realize that hurricane season isn't the "ideal" time to be going down there. We can wait it out a couple of more months . . .
Sorry about your Cards, Cap'n Tom - this just isn't their year. They've had a terrible time of it ‘n this 7-game losing streak pretty much sums it up. Bask in the glory of what they did last year. At least YOUR World Series win is a hulluvalot closer than the last one for the Mets. <grin>
Time to provide a few more steamers for the gang, then I'm departing the scene - may not be in tomorrow . . . got quite a few things going on with family ‘n friends. BUT, you can bet I'll TRY!!
N&W #611 4-8-4 Class J (credit unidentified)
B&O P7 4-6-2 President series \"Cincinnatian\" Pacific loco (courtesy: Cincinnati Railroad Club collection)
B&O EM1 2-8-8-4 (courtesy: Cincinnati Railroad Club collection)
Wheeling & Lake Erie 0-6-6 Loco #3 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
Wheeling & Lake Erie 4-4-0 Loco #19 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
Ok Ruth my deAH, we're heading off to get that <ahem> admin work done! Yes - yes, the secret passageway . . .
Tom:
You do indeed know how to smoke me out with that fantastic SP brochure, I would like to add that the Imperial often resembled a common reefer drag during packing season. Seems SP decreed once upon a time, that no express/general reefer cars of any type were to be permited on any first or second class carded passenger trains. Thus when a hot shipment had to get a move on, and no extra was scheduled or available, the Imperial provided that convience, as a result these consits could exceed thirty revenue cars, restricted to the rear due to lack of steam and signal connections while providing optium block switching at a minium impact to paying passengers. When necessary, following sections were employed as required on a acclerated schedule. Often on these massive movements, Cab Forwards were employed to eliminate double heading whenever possible, although, depending on conditions, a second locomotive was added to maintain sufficient train heating and brake pipe pressure.
Technically, the Argonaut ceased to exist during the WWII years, though listed in timetables as such from this period, the military held precedence and control over it for the movement of troops, crews and motive power continued to be assigned according to their home roads however. As one can imagine, this made for some unique equiptment allocation, ancient wooden coaches next to brand spanking new streamlined equiptment, a riot of colors and car design from across the nation and from all builders. One can only fathom the nightmare of maintaince headaches and grimlins this must have caused...
The Sunset, poor Sunset..never fulfilled it's grand design due to Rock Islands continued poverty. Despite this, managed to survive and prosper despite the Rock defaulting on car construction payments on a number of occasions, leaving SP with the tab. When possible RI equiptment and even locomotives were run through, especially in the latter years when SP was disposing of pure passenger power, it is said that Rock crews tolerated having it's equiptment bad ordered upon arrival in Los Angeles, due to a reasonable shop labor rate and a superior SP maintaince staff.
Dave
G'day Gents!
Appearances by Dan (DL-UK) - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) 'n some guy called West Coast S (Dave) this fine day . . . My comments in tomorrow's ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #57
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 219 of the Original Thread on 13 Jan 2006>
Here's something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1946 advertisement in my personal collection.
Now you may choose from
5 fine, fast trains daily to the Southwest Sun Country
ARIZONA * CALIFORNIA * TEXAS * NEW MEXICO
For your winter vacation, Southern Pacific offers the only main line train service direct to Phoenix, Tucson, Palm Springs and other Southwestern resort and guest ranch centers. On the Golden State Route, low altitude way from Chicago to Los Angeles, via El Paso, Phoenix, Tucson and Palm Springs you may ride; 1. The Golden State Limited, with through streamlined Pullmans from Chicago, New York and St. Louis and streamlined chair cars from Chicago. Now on the fastest schedule in its history, the Golden State streaks from Chicago to Tucson in only 36 ¾ hours, Phoenix in 39 ½ hours, Los Angeles in 49 ¼ hours. No extra fare. 2. The swift Imperial, new 53-hour train between Chicago and Los Angeles, gives you an exciting 51-mile trip through Mexico, and shows you California's sunny Imperial Valley. No extra fare. 3. The friendly Californian, popular economy train, carries coaches and tourist sleeping cars and a lounge car. Economy meal service. Through cars to San Diego. 4. The Sunset Limited, now making the run from New Orleans to Tucson and Phoenix in a day and a half, to Los Angeles in only 48 hours. No extra fare. 5. The Argonaut, carries chair cars and coaches, tourist and standard Pullmans and full lounge car. Through cars to San Diego. Fast, luxurious daily trains from principal eastern cities connect with the Sunset Limited and Argonaut at New Orleans. Incidentally, we would like to remind you that the peak winter resort season will continue until February. Most resorts, however, will remain open until late spring. To insure getting the train and resort reservation you want, if possible try to take your trip a little later, during the less crowded months. All train and resort reservations should be made well in advance. FOUR SCENIC ROUTES TO CALIFORNIA 1. Sunset Route . . . . . 2. Golden State Route . . . . . . . . . 3. Overland Route . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4. Shasta Route
S*P The friendly Southern Pacific
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Some drumheads of the SP:
Enjoy! Tom
Howdy strangers, sharp eye there Tom, what can I say, was harrased off the puter before I could post, pesky one stars, messing with my play time while on Government pay!!
Tom, had you in my thoughts earlier this week during my 24 hour tour de-force in St. Louis, well that and being in Chicago and Louisville in the same week. Discovered something interesting in downtown Louisville, the former L&N headquarters building and a magnficient cut stone ediface I believe to be a former passenger terminal next door, though in use by the transit authority these days, the passenger platform canopies and central courtyard betray it's former use and disconnected rail in the pavement provide additional clues, Alas my camera didn't travel with me and i'm not sure i'd be brave enough to investigate on foot given the state of the surrounding area. I got it, i'll tote my 45 and my camera during my next visit. Opps, got so wound up I forgot to order breakfest, eggs over easy with country fries and a spot of Folgers.
I see the faithfull have been at work, so without further ado...
Jan... Great interest in the MLW, I was surprised to learn they were the last to maintain and use with frequency, Morse Code communication circuits, until there demise, though BN maintained isolated emergency circuits into the mid 80s they were rarely used due to lack of experienced operators..
Pete..I see the California trip is a do, have a great stay in our fair state, I do say your coverage of British railroading is most educational....Hope you are able to make it to Rio Vista, you will not be dissapointed....
Eric... Those MLW electrics could have had kissing cousins, if Southern Pacific had electrified the route over Donner Pass, SP officials were assigned to the to project and became temporary MLW employees during the evaluation period, unlike the MLW, SP was forbidden by the state PUC to purchase or control power generating stations, thus the cost of having to buy from commercial utilities at a open market rate, nixed the project and resulted in the purchase of additional Cab Forwards in 1928 which was deemd a far more prudent investment in the long term.
CM3...I'm still undecided as to the concept of reproducing what could have been paint schemes, in my mind the C&NW is plausable and perhaps the SP as well, as pop used to say, one man's Buick is another man's Dodge, I do have my latest copy of TRAINS with that photo spread, wonder if they plan to offer it as a poster without the staple holes or fold as they did with the Bicentenial Shoot which is now a much sought collector item (though I do have a framed copy of the never circlulated N&W Bicentenial poster which 99 percent of the railfan community is unfamilar with)...
Well heck, got to complete my travel vouchers if I want to see my check, my best to those I have failed to acknowledge, a special hello to Sir Lars, Boris and the critter barn...
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox. Let's see what to play today. How about "Who Is The Girl Wearing Nothing But a Towel and a Smile on the Billboard by the Big Old Highway," followed by "Tombstone Every Mile," and "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights." It's raining here today which is a good thing as we truly need it. Gas is at $2.95 (but hang on).
DD1 - Sent a fine calendar shot of an unmodified P5. Hadn't seen that one in awhile.
DL was here with comments and observations. Here's aonother canal book for you. Ronald E. Shaw. Canals for a Nation: The Canal Era in the United States, 1790-1860. It was released in 1990 and is probably long o/p. It sold for $28, but I got it for $10 as it somehow landed on a sale table at the Genessee Museum in Mumford, New York - one of may favorite places to visit.
James - I figured that an SDL39 would either be a kitbash project (yikes - I was thinking of doors and louvers and stuff on the roof) or a brass model. IIRC, the SDL was a locomotive unique to the Milwaukee.
Lars - Yep, it was the CN logo on the water tower. Turbines West sits on a bookshelf somewhere in the stack of stuff.
Per - Thanks for the club information. That's how we did things as well. Control system we used was Dynatrol; ancestor to DCC. I liked both the YM and DS "jobs" because they were close to the coffee. Call list? Patience, patience - just like on the real thing.
I have friends (rr employees) who spent 25+ yrs. on the extra board before landing a regular turn.
In shifter work, C&O around here used to use a system called "pool crews" who worked in rotation from the bottom of the board up to the top. It worked pretty well as they had a rough idea of when they were going to be called for a run. Real high tech stuff as names were on blocks of wood that were moved up in different slots on what looked like an old fashioned printers type case. No Boris, we're not going to go out and crank up the Linotype today.
Eric - The Yankee Clipper drumhead you mentioned was a square flat sign that was on the rear of the hw observation on the train. The "Clipper" and the "Merchants" were the candy trains on the NYNH&H.
OSP - For what it's worth (never stops us, does it), I did my Classic Trains renewal online; it went through fine. Maybe we can do a session closer to the holidays re department store layouts, etc.
Thanks for the NYNH&H rerun and the reminiscene of Polks - remember it well.
Jan - Vikings? Try harboring a Bills fan. I had to be REAL careful the year the Giants beat the Bills in the Super Bowl, lest I spend the rest of the winter out in the yard (LOL). Anyway, after about three months or so, she resumed speaking in coherent sentences.
I may be offline Monday, but will try and stop by.
work safe
Hello Tom and all in
Yes, Friday - time to peruse the food menu and have a look for something nice to eat. Let's have a pint of mild please.
Tom, I agree with you on the stats for Toronto Union Station - it seemed pretty unlikely to me, but there we are. Shame Rob not about to add to the thinking - I saw he posted in one time when I was away. Not quite LOL but no doubt nearly!
For Lars and Per - I've been checking on the relationship between Meccano and Erector - quite interesting really.
Meanwhile - on catching up on past pages I saw the book feature on LTC Rolt's Red for Danger - a long time since I've read any of that book but it is a classic. Rolt was a remarkable man - I first read one of his books when at school - it was about Victorian Engineering. Then I found some years later one part of his autobiography in a closing down bookstore - bought it and really enjoyed it - I must one day get the other 2 volumes and read them!
He can single handidly be credited with kick-starting the canal preservation movement in this country and from that also the railway preservation movement - essentially he started - with some like minded people - the society that preserved the Talyllyn Narrow Gauge Railway in Wales
http://www.talyllyn.co.uk/index-about.html
They formed what is thought to be the 1st preserved railway run by volunteers in the world - in 1951 - and in fact their efforts are supposed to have been the inspiration for the Film Titfield Thunderbolt - which we have discussed before - so I guess we all have a lot to thank them for.
More info on the man is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._T._C._Rolt
But this inspired me to check out the local book store to see what they had - one copy of his first book ‘Narrow Boat' - 1st published in 1944 and still in print - not too bad by any standards. I'd been meaning to read this book for a while so I spent the 6 pints (standard international currency) to buy this book. Hopefully it will be a good read.
"The boat was ‘Cressy' - a converted working boat - and this account of canal travel immediately prior to the Second World War has been dubbed ‘the book that saved the waterways'. Published in 1945, it became a best seller, and its warning of the threat hanging over the canal system led to the founding of The Inland Waterways Association. This latest edition includes a selection of Angela Rolt's photographs taken around the time of Cressy's voyage"
Anyway here's a link I've been sent which might be of interest to those of you with Swedish connections: "This fascinating film covers the electrification of Swedish railways before World War 2.There's an 1 minute's worth after about 6m 15s. (And yes... it's in Swedish!)
Hope the link works
http://tinyurl.com/2jz2ol
Cheerio
DL
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<phew> We made it - Friday has finally arrived with the promise of rest ‘n relaxation ahead!
Time to try some pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case, freshly ground ‘n brewed Colombian coffee along with a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from Our Menu Board! So, what's the delay
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CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:59 AM Thursday - Sep 13th: An always interesting report from our WVA Connection regarding this ‘n that, but "on track" when it comes to the topic ‘round here - Classic Trains (real ‘n model)!
Exasperation continues with Kalmbach: Just received ANOTHER notice from them about renewing my Classic Trains subscription - which I renewed a couple of notices ago. Anyway, this time the "deal" is better than when I signed up for more issues. <arrrrggghhhh> Anyone want to place bets regarding where this will all "go"???? Don't bother - I've got other things to do than chase these "wind mills."
Cards dropped yet another ‘n were swept by Cincy. Recall my comments of a couple of weeks ago regarding the Reds It ain't over ‘til it's over - right Yogi
Quarters, round ‘n visit makes for a good morning start ‘round here - thanx!
Ron (DD1) at 11:32 AM Thursday - Sep 13th: Thought you said the Pennsy calendar shot form the day before was your favorite!?!?! Hmmmmm. <grin> Nice one, fer sure, fer sure!
The talk regarding the Gilbert Hall of Science surely brings some good recollections my way. Can't tell you how many times my childhood "best friend" ‘n I used to make the trek from Staten Island up to Madison Avenue to view the American Flyer trains in the window, then go over to the Lionel Show Room to take in their splendid displays and layout. We were both Lionel "kids" ‘n loved looking at the stuff. Secretly though, I always thought the American Flyer set ups were much more appealing. Don't know whether it was the two-rail OR simply that the size of them "did it" for me. But, I remained a faithful Lionel ‘defender' ‘til adulthood . . .
Now of course, at this late stage of life along the continuum, I've gotten both Lionel ‘n S-gauge (not AF) running in my trainroom. Both supplemental ‘n apart from the feature layout, which is HO, but there nonetheless.
Thanx for the memories (a Bob Hope saying!) . . .
Thought you'd pick up on the New Haven piece - but maybe it wasn't visible to you. Gotta use that REFRESH/RELOAD feature on your browser if you want to ensure getting the most current "stuff"!!
Round ‘n visit appreciated!
Jan (JanOlov) at 12:28 PM Thursday - Sep 13th: Good inclusive Post coming from our man in Glasgow! Now how can one call himself a Viking's fan IF unaware of their NFL history <geesh> Must be a "name only" thing, eh Back in the day (as Shane would say) they were known as the "Purple People Eaters" ‘n had some awesome teams. Just couldn't finish it off with a winner at the Super Bowls . . .
Thanx for the "top up," tips, money for Herr Wurlitzer ‘n cigars!
Dan (DL-UK) at 12:49 PM Thursday - Sep 13th: I find that "stat' rather hard to accept about TOs Union Station having more passengers flow through it than Pearson International Airport. Yeah, the GO trains accommodate lots of people - same bunches twice a day - so the "stats" are a bit skewed, eh Anyway, just hard to believe. Wonder who ‘n how "they" figure these things out <ooooot, in Canadian!>
Too bad we no longer have our Ontario Connection with us - he'd shed some insights where needed. Oh well . . .
Hornby link appreciated - enjoyable!
Anticipating your contribution to our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day!
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, glad to see you are still awake! A ham sandwich would be perfect this time!
Friday! Yeah!!! We had another hot day, 108°F. At least, there is no snow!
Tom – I love raw onions with my hamburgers but I have cut back on both onion and hamburgers. Once in a while though...Big Boy is a fine looking locomotive, no doubt. Kind of sad that no one is operational. I am kind of surprised to see that New Haven had only 1,800 miles of tracks in 1950! And only 33 electrics in 1963! Interesting info indeed! I think the two top drum heads were the best looking ones.
I would love to come along to St. Louis Museum of Transportation but I can't this year. I am out of vacation!
CM3 – Interesting and true comment about the geese and their output! I used to raise geese for a few years in the old country and they were walking fertilizing machines. Ron – You have to help me, what electric is on your favorite calendar picture? Class? I saw JanOlov posted a nice picture of the Swedish Class D electric. The body is made of teak. I’ll see if I can find a good picture of one. I think you will have very good possibilities to get a very interesting layout around the pond. Irregular ground makes it so much better! JanOlov – It sounds like your dad has a very good taste when it comes to music! I have seen he has been posting a lot of pictures lately at the bus forum. Class D with wooden bodies? I don’t remember the exact number but I think they built around 125 of them before changing to steel bodies. One reason for the wood was the insulation, to keep the cabs warmer in the winter time. DL – I remember when they took pictures and videos of the X2000 before it enetered revenue service in 1990. Many of those pictures and videos were shot with the train indoors. But it looked pretty real when you saw those pictures afterwards. James – I don’t know what Mallet is at the Museum in Duluth. According to the info I have Big Boy could put out 5,200 hp at 20 mph, 6,200 hp at 35 mph and 10,000 hp at 70 mph. Tractive effort was 135,375 lb. Lars – Very nice book covers! Since my wife grew up in UP territory (Nebraska) I learned to like them too. Per – I like scratch building! All buildings I have from my layout in the old country are all built from scratch. I also built a couple of locomotives and a streetcar from scratch (the bodies). Good luck with the church!
Union Pacific.
Eric
Good Evening everybody present! Leon, please a round for everybody and a pint of your best dark ale for me!
Tom, yes those Norwegians, they can trick you into almost anything, can’t they? I liked your New Haven article. I have seen the word “Advanced” a couple of times in train names, what does it mean? I have no clue myself. I’m glad you liked the little scene from the club layout. I will try to remember to post some more pictures on a coming Wednesday.
Eric, the Wylie scene will remain at the club. I have used it to get some experience in landscaping and scratch building. It has been a very good practice, but I think I can do better next time! The transfer terminal is the third version I built; the other two had to be thrown away due to construction mishaps that I wasn’t prepared for. My next project is to build the church (what’s there is just a loan from another corner of the layout).
I agree with you, Shane, that the PT is a b***h. Right now I’m in a phase where there is no progress at all and that is a bit hard to deal with. The club layout is not modular so every member has his own area to scenic in a way that fits the over-all plan. We have different interests as well, but just about everyone has an area to complete besides serving on a committee, like electrical, operations, scenery, etc. The committees set the overall direction and the members do the work.
We operate the layout one day a month. We use the RailOp program to generate train and switch lists and we run all DCC which makes the operation really realistic. The tasks, yardmaster, running switch jobs or mainline freight, varies from operation night to operation night. There is a call list (I’ve never figured out how you get on top of it) so when the trains are ready we just pick what we want that evening, that is, if there is a choice left when you get towards the bottom of the list. It’s not unusual to have a two hour long run if you get one of the longest trains.
Ron, thanks for the picture of the wooden Swedish electric engine. I remember those very well, they were still in use when we got the overhead wires in our town. The local railroad museum (Kristianstad) has one of those engines restored and operable. That one is the Du 109, formerly Ds 109, built in 1929.
Your note on the hobby shop reminds me of how many of the hobby shops have closed in the 25 years that I have been here. We used to have quite a few in the Southern California area but there are only a handful left. Even Allied Hobby changed owner and down sized considerably. I will pay them a visit among the first thing I do when I get back to see how much building supplies they have. Most of the remaining stores have just ready-to-run stuff.
Jan Olov, thanks for the great picture of the 101! The museum I mentioned above has a picture of the 109 on their site (http://kulturguide.regionmuseet.m.se/hembygd/osj/index.html), it’s all in Swedish, but just find “Elektrolok” and follow the “Du109” link.
DL, I will be looking forward to your trip report with great anticipation. I just love to read those reports. Some more Meccano information will be welcome as well.
James, I wrote about the club operation earlier, but I can add that when it came to planning the trackwork in Wylie, one of the Master Model Railroaders suggested I put the crossing in there. I didn’t see the expression on his face when he said it, but I have heard from nearly everybody who had to switch Wylie, that the crossing makes it very difficult to switch anything there. Oh well.
Lars, shame on you for tricking your fellow easterner like that and I fell for it too, that’s the really bad part!
Y’all take care and I will see you again soon!
Per
Ruth my deAH ‘tis the Larsman with a thirst to be quenched! Two frosty mugs of Schaefer ‘n slide the snack trays down my way wudja please My, my you are radiant this fine day, a mighty fine sight for these old eyes to feast on! <blush>
Boris, the crittAHs are lined up, so it must be feeding time - go get ‘em! Once finished, the small jar of PPF is YOURS! Don't forget to take Artie outback for his field mouse. <ugh>
All kinds of reading material to check out, but I must say that mention of a rattlesnake in Ron's driveway caught my attention!!
For Ron: The last snake I saw ‘round these parts was a garden snake trying to avoid my lawn mower - which it did. Just like the sayings about "Why would anyone want to jump out of a perfectly functioning airplane?" or "Why would anyone want to sink a perfectly good ship (submarine)?" I must ask, "Why does ANYONE want to live in places where there are things lurking about waiting to either eat you or harm you?" Good Grief Charlie Brown!! <double yikes>
Enjoyed the reference to the old Gilbert Hall of Science. However I think you have it further uptown than it was. Here's the address from a 1954 NYC Guidebook: GILBERT HALL OF SCIENCE, 1 W. 25th St. (corner of 5th Ave.)
Also this info: Home of the Erector set, American Flyer electric trains, Gilbert scientific toys (chemistry, magic sets, toy microscopes, etc.). 80-foot model railroad, push-button scientific exhibits are part of an elaborate toy display. Group tours (by appointment) include a magic show.
Home of the Erector set, American Flyer electric trains, Gilbert scientific toys (chemistry, magic sets, toy microscopes, etc.). 80-foot model railroad, push-button scientific exhibits are part of an elaborate toy display. Group tours (by appointment) include a magic show.
And the original Lionel Showroom was at 27th St. ‘n Madison Ave. - short walk from the Gilbert Hall of Science. I remember making those visits many, many times as a kid. Read where Lionel moved it's HQ back to Manhattan - 7 blocks north of where it used to be. I'll have to check it out next time the Mrs. drags my sorry butt to Macy's! Will surely give ME something worthwhile to do! <grin>
A link for your enjoyment!
http://www.nysun.com/article/42822
Really fine looking G scale trains! If you're planning on running ‘em outside, guess you'll need something to keep the snakes off the tracks! Rig up a super-powered set of grass shears with extra sharp blades, that should "work"!!
I think the best of all the old time hobby stores in that area was Polks on 5th Avenue. I remember walking up those stairs many times and wishing that I had a boatload of money to buy some of the trains on display.
For Per (Pete): Yeah, Cap'n Tom caught me!! <grin> Of course we "squareheads" can figure out things like Per means Pete - but I wanted the guys to know, just like Da Boss figured! Thanx for "revealing" it.
For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! Speaking of the Mets, one of my sons already is "in" for the playoffs ‘n I'm going to at least one of the games, perhaps more. Hope your friend sees a good game, for this is THE YEAR of the METS! <grin>
Can't sneak that bookmobile onto the gravel parking area without you picking up the "crunch," huh Glad you're enjoying the submissions . . .
Yeah, that CN herald on the water tower looks "cool" - IF that's what you're referring to . . . a third Eagle Eye ‘round here!
For Jan: In my part of the U.S. there just weren't too many operating steam locos where I grew up. But when they did pass through Staten Island (B&O) they drew a crowd - generally smaller locos "back in the day." When my father took us on the west coast bound trips, we'd see steamers many times, but the transition to diesel had already taken hold. I may be old, but not THAT old!
For Dan: Yeah, I suppose the PR people would come up with some "cheesy" thing like that to save a few bucks in sacrificing realism. <barf> I've looked at those photos many times ‘n must admit my concentration was always "in" the car, rather than "out" of it. Goes to show what "tunnel vision" can do, huh
Ok, what for this fine day Enjoy more from the UP!
G-day Tom and all present!!
Ruth- Good to see you this afternoon... Don't listen to Tom, he wants me to get two 5$ coffees... <grin> Well I think I will have an OJ and a turkey sandwich. Thanks.
Eric- Looking good with those electrics. Especially that Class Dm3. Some great looking electrics. Ya, I'd have to say the SD10 is on a sea.. just a bunch of grass rails... Anyway. Thanks for the great pic. And a great pic of that UP Big Boy. I can see why they called them Big Boys. The Mallet at the Museum here in Duluth is only 10 feet shorter than the Ups steamer. But they made the same HP. Was the Big Boy able to put out a larger tractive effort? Because it is the strongest steamer made...
Jan- Glad you liked the Milwaukee pics. I always enjoy seeing your pics. Especially the steamers. Those cab forward steamers were always a interesting looking steamer. They seemed very weird to me but when it came to a really long tunnel, I think the crew enjoyed them. Thanks for sharing. Also some really neat songs. I really like the Rock Island song. I have a video about the Rock Island. That would be a neat railroad to model. Thanks for all of the great song lyrics.
Tom- Ya, I somewhat forgot to add down were I got this. I actually got the pics from a friend who knows the guy and he has been sending me the pics. Then I forgot to put down were, so yes, I'm OK there. But I will be careful. I can see how it can get you in trouble. Thanks for the reminder.
Good piece on the OO gauge trains. It was really interesting learning that the track was more like HO scale. It was also interesting to learn that gauge represented 4 and 1 and 1 half inches instead of the regular gauge. Interesting stuff fer sure. Thanks for sharing. Also good piece on the New Haven. Another railroad that used electrics for some mainline freight and passenger service. Always come cool stuff to look at. Thanks for sharing.
Lars- Some good looking book and movie covers. The UP is one of the oldest names in railroading and hasn't changed since the beginning. Always some good history behind this railroad. Even today, they make railroad interesting.
DD1- Looking good with your models there. Good to hear that no one was hurt with the rattle snake. But I think you did the right thing. Glad you liked the Boxcabs. The Boxcabs were some of the greatest electrics built for the Milwaukee. At 120,000 pounds of tractive effort for each section of the locomotive, it made it a great hauler of freight, especially in the mountains. Anyway, thanks for the great pics.
Per- Thanks for the comment on those pics. I like the pic of the club layout. I'm sure you could spend a few hours just playing around with all of the switching you could do. Neat stuff.
CM3- I wish I had an SDL39. Unfortunately, to get one of these it would cost me about 500 dollars. The only company that makes them is Overland models, which is a brass company. There is another company, but they sell a kit without a working mechanism for 400 dollars which is not worth it. But the SDL39 was the Milwaukee's ultimate branch line and light rail loco. They weighed less than 130 tons and had a 2350 Horsepower engine in them. So they were string and lighter than most locomotives. A really neat loco.
Happy railroading
James
Pint of Batham's please (Pete will no doubt be asking for some on the South West Chief about now maybe!!)
Tom - you would very much enjoy the Toronto Union station tour I am sure - the speaker said that for passenger throughput the station was still busier than Pearson Airport in Toronto - hard to believe butt hat is what he said. Mostly due to GO trains I expect - their concourse is of course down below - I learned in the former RPS postal sorting area that was abandoned by the post office in about 1970 and taken over by GO. GO want to expand this area and their platform space to allow faster train boarding etc and permit more services. Godo to know.
Nice posters you've been posting - and nice link to UK toy trains. Hornby Dublo was mentioned and this site has some good pics of the real stuff (see the Gallery page)
http://www.hrca.net/hornby_dublo.html
Lars - I enjoyed those C-Zephyr interior shots a few posts back - Eric mentioned the views - I wonder if they were faked up by the PR department - I've seen pictures here of passengers in cars with scenery outside and turned out they were extras in the cars and they used pictures of scenery stuck to the windows to fake up the views that might be seen for advertising purposes - simpler to take the pictures in some siding somewhere than go out to the site!
Jan - you seem to have posted the lyrics of the whole canon of railroad songs! Nicely illustrated too.
CM3 - thanks for the comments on the BRE LEV - looks like the trail ends in Connecticut!
Your post reminded me that I have visited Wright Patterson AFB with my father when I was about 10 or 12 in 1980 ish - he was working in Tennessee then and we went up there to visit it - it was one big museum then - no doubt bigger now.
James - that pic of the 37 at night was very atmospheric.
Per - nice to see you back in - enjoyed the post.
Allan - enjoyed the NZ links MOTAT looks good and I see they have a van advertising my favourite spread - Marmite - great stuff.
http://www.motat.org.nz/collections/road_transport.htm
You mentioned the Short Sunderland they have there - of interest because I was looking through my late uncle's pilots log book which lists the actual aircraft he flew - I ran them through the web and one came up as having later on been sold by the RAF to the NZ air force as part of batch sold on by the UK - I expect the one in the MOTAT is part of that batch - nice to know it is preserved there - great stuff!
Ron - enjoying the calendar art - do you have the actual calendar in your collection? I agree with you about point to point journey time being the key to high speed rail - in France (and maybe elsewhere but I have not ridden high speed elsewhere) the trains will often go off the dedicated high speed line to run on the old lines into the city centre stations for the final few miles of journey - thus getting an advantage over the airlines as the high speed train can go into the heart of the city - in other places they tend to also build a station on the new line outside the town near a motorway (Interstate) so a quick stop can be made and immediate return to high speed running is possible - people have to drive out to these stations of course but the two system combine well to make an attractive product for the traveller.
Interesting picture of your garden layout plans. My father has a good friend who lives close by with a garden line in Gauge One - this is elevated about 3 feet off the ground on old railroad ties (stood up on end) - which of course keeps it clear of grass etc - snakes too if we had ‘em!
I was looking again at older pages and it was interesting to see your Chile info - re traction engines - we call them that too when they are built for agricultural use - Showman's engines for driving fairground equipment - the later tend to be more fancily decorated for obvious reasons.
Anyway - I think I might hold off posting the first part of my trip Report (ONR Toronto - Cochrane) until Pete is back maybe. I'll have a think about it. I need a little time to write it up properly anyway.
All the best
PS - I'll try and post soemthign on Meccano next model day - as it is a very famous British toy - still manufactured and not, as far as I can work out, in China!
Good evening Tom and fellow classic trains worshipers...
May I please have the usual extra cold Guinness, top up and cigars for the boys...and get yourself something as well.
A few $$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer too of course.
Tom, great post about NYNH&H one of my favorite railroads! Read that the Merchants Limited was something to behold in luxury and comfort...
Da Larsman, Big Boys and Challengers....hmmm. Must have felt like an earthquake when they moved past you if you were close to the tracks... Have to say that I like the Challengers slightly more than the Big Boys though, with the D&RGW ones being the best looking of the breed. Looking forward to see more of your steamers.
DD1, nice collection that you have going there. Another stunning calendar picture admire too...
marthastrainyard, better get that in soon then, eh? Looks like you have a nice layout.
coalminer3, didn't know that about the Vikings. 1977 you say, wow that is a while back to say the least! I hope that it'll be their turn again soon and this time to win....
EricX2000, Orange Blossom Special and On the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe, you could probably talk for some time with my dad about railroad music etc then...
DD1, I can see why this one is your favorite, awesome! Below is a picture of D 101, I think that they built 100+ with wooden bodies, I can't remember the exact number, but I'm sure that Eric will inform us on that one...
Credit: http://www.olaviahokas.com
Good day Tom and to all present. Drinks all around. Today's calendar is my favorite.
The next came out of a book written by Brian Hollingsworth and Arthur Cook and shows a class D, 1-C-1 Swedish electric of 1925. The pic shows the only one that had a wood body, so it is a prime candidate for a scale model. For a 1925 engine, it is quite modern by today's standards. Sorry about the poor quality. Maybe Jan or Eric might have a better picture?
Per: I remember Erector set well. My family wasn't rich, so the largest set I had was a #6½. The #10½ was the largest made and could make the parachute jump model. I can remember going to the Hall of Science at 47th St and Broadway/7th Ave and spending hours watching the AC Gilbert trains and various erector set models in motion. Christmas time was a special time to go visit that place and also the enormous layouts in Macy's toy department.
BTW, My father had a restaurant at 52nd St and 7th Ave where I spent much time, so I was only a few blocks from The Hall of Science. There used to be some great model railroad shops in the area. I remember one that had an HO Dockside running around a 12" disc in a CCW direction on a phono turntable running in a CW direction. I think it was called "Model Railroad Supply Corp" on 45th St, between 5th and 6th Ave.
Eric: Those models are in various states of completion. When I get a layout up and running, I may then complete some models and add them to the pike. The Birney is not powered and won't be. Some models are for display only. The mogul's center drivers are flangeless to allow it to operate on very tight radii. It is basically a toy that grew up. Bachmann trains used to be very cheap, but now they up in the 3 figures, approaching 4 figures.The ground around the pond is irregular enough that I can incorporate some trestles and bridges. For the moment, I plan to have a continuous running track around the pond. The pond is about 50x100 and stocked with bass, some over two pounds. We practice catch and release.
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #23
New York, New Haven & Hartford (NYNH&H) (NH)
<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 140 of the Original Thread on 18 Oct 2005>
Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.
Headquarters: New Haven, CT
Mileage in 1950: 1,800
Locomotives in 1963:
Diesel: 381 - Electric: 22
Rolling stock in 1963:
Freight cars: 6,925 - Passenger cars: 1,055 (including self-propelled)
Principal routes in 1950:
New York City (Grand Central)-New Haven-New London, CT-Providence, RI-Boston, MA
New York City (Pennsylvania Station)-New Rochelle, NY
New Haven-Hartford, CT-Springfield, MA
New Haven-Middletown-Putnam, CT-Boston (Readville)
New Haven-Northhampton & Holyoke, MA
Devon-Winsted, CT
Waterbury-Hartford-Plainfield, CT-Providence
Providence (Valley Falls)-Worcester, MA
Norwalk, CT-Pittsfield & Station Line, MA
Derby, CT-Campbell Hall & Beacon, NY
New London-Worcester
New Bedford & Fall River-Framingham-Lowell & Fitchburg, MA
Boston-Brocton-Provincetown & Hyannis & Woods Hole, MA
Attleboro-Taunton-Middleboro, MA
South Braintree-Plymouth, MA
Passenger trains of note:
NEW YORK-BOSTON
Hell Gate Express - Merchants Limited - Murray Hill - Narragansett -
New Yorker - Owl - Puritan - Roger Williams - Shoreliner - Yankee Clipper
BOSTON-PHILADELPHIA-WASHINGTON
(operated by PRR west of NYC (Penn Station)
Colonial - Federal - Patriot - Pilgrim - Quaker - Senator - William Penn
OTHER RUNS
Bankers (New York-Springfield)
Berkshires (New York-Pittsfield)
Connecticut Yankee (New York-Springfield)
Day Cape Codder (New York-Hyannis & Woods Hole
Day White Mountain (New York-Berlin, NH; operated by B&M north of Springfield)
Montrealer (New York-to-Montreal, operated by B&M, CV & CN north of Springfield)
Nathan Hale (New York-Springfield)
Naugatuck (New York-Winsted)
Night Cap (New York-Stamford, CT
State of Maine (New York-Portland, ME via Providence & Worcester; B&M beyond
Washingtonian (Montreal-to-Washington counterpart to Montrealer
Some drumheads from the NH:
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Four Seasons Blend will be fine today); round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Weather this a.m. clear, temperature approx 50 degrees but it is supposed to be in the 80s later, trees are starting to turn a little bit which is probably more a result of all the dry weather we have had rather than cool temperatures.
Let's see.
Jan - Vikings have been in several Super Bowls but have yet to win one. Their last appearance was in 1977 when they lost to Oakland which was coached by John Madden.
Thanks for the steam pictures. The shot of WP 252 backlit really makes that one a keeper - the light brought out the features of the terrain.
Check out the whaleback tenders on SP train 406.
The SAL was one of the few roads to put train names on diesels. The ACL (as shown in OSPs post of the "Champion" was another road that did so; IIRC, the Southern was the last to do so with the "Southern Crescent" name on their Es. BTW, that was a lovely shot of the dearly beloved "Pan." The diner is the third car in the consist if you look carefully. The line about Nashville tower and the whistle was interesting because WSM (Clear Channel 650), back in the day had a daily live broadcast of the Pan passing Vine Hill tower which was just south of Nashville. The train (what a concept) was usually on time, but they played a recording if it was late. Yes, Boris, I spent more than a few years around the L&N.
Last, but not least - the Tehachapi shot is a fine one as well.
DD1 visited with some more PRR calendar pictures. I am anxious to see what picture is "your" favorite. I already mentioned mine awhile back. Thanks for sending along the pictures. Lionel Standard gauge? Oh, yeah! We used to do the same thing at a friend's house. You have some interesting terrain available for an outside layout. I think the geese lend a touch of class to the operation. Up here, we are overrun with Canadas. Their output is amazing.
Lars - A buddy of mine will be at Shea next week to see the Mets vs. the Phillies. The Olde Towne Team is certainly making us "live in interesting times" as the old curse goes. The Yankees have been on fire and they will be in Boston for three games over the weekend - last time they play head-to-head during the regular season. I enjoyed looking at the steam photographs as always. Blow up the picture of CN 5045 and take a loot at the water tower which is behind the coal dock in the picture. Ah, I thought I heard the bookmobile - we have UP material to examine.
Per - Good to see you back. PT is not for the faint-hearted. I had about 9 mos. Of it when they put my knee and leg back together yrs ago. It worked, but there were certainly more than a few rough spots along the way. Happy belated birthday as well. The club layout shot raised a question. Is it a modular operation or does each member of the club have a piece of territory they work with?
When I was still in the frozen north, I was in a HO club (I know, Artie, I model N scale, but I had some HO equipment that needed exercise). Different club members were interested in different things so we had electrical folks, track people, car repairers, etc. I did scenery, acted as a yardmaster, and also was second in line as dispatcher - this was a monstrous layout and we ran it the old fashioned way with train orders - man, that was fun! Anyway, the scenery folks had certain sections which they handled, so we had a "territory." Does your group do things that way?
Allan - Thanks for the link, good to hear from you.
James stopped by. That MILW shot on the branch line captured the "spirit" of that part of the world. The SD10s were r/b from SD7s, but they went through a couple of numberings which makes sorting them out a little bit of a problem. Have you a model of one of their SDL39s? That's an interesting critter.
Eric visited with comments.
OSP posted a nice set of vintage ads and postcards. We touched on the named diesels earlier. The ACL postcard shows a set of these. Also, many thanks for the Tri-Ang material. I have a Hogwarts Express set. Bermuda onion? The New Haven served those on their grille car hamburgers - hadn't thought about that in a long time.
Well, I think that brings us up-to-date.
Work safe
And it's THURSDAY one more time - the day before week's end!
Coffee ‘n pastries are ready as are the <light> ‘n <traditional> breakfasts from our Menu Board - are you
Thanx to Eric - Lars ‘n Per for acknowledging our 29th Month Anniversary (Monthiversary - a term "coined" by wanswheel Mike, an irregular-regular these days <daze>)!!
Nary a customer in the AM daylite on Wednesday - not one! <uh oh>
Jan (JanOlov) at 1:40 PM Wednesday - Sep 12th: Lyrics ‘n more lyrics! All favorites of ours ‘round here ‘n all "in" Herr Wurltizer - just check the listings.
Good fotos - generous tips - ‘top up' appreciated ‘n money for the juke too!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 2:25 PM Wednesday - Sep 12th: Our Manager didn't fail us ‘n is keeping to an afternoon sked in the absence of our Bar Chandler - many thanx, Mate!
Not to worry about those fotos - you got ‘em straightened out! Glad all's well between you ‘n our Desert Fox!
Methinks you're not alone in your thinking . . . I too wonder who will answer the call when it comes - and it will. <sad>
Liked the UP spread - a road many "fans" don't care for - but given today's situation in the U.S. with operating RRs, better to have ‘em than not in my not-so-humble-Oh-Pin-Yun! Anyway, keep ‘em coming!
Round ‘n visit most appreciated!
Ron (DD1) 4:09 PM Wednesday - Sep 12th: Looks like we hit the "mother lode" with that super-fine spate of G-gauge trains! Nicely done, Sir!
It's been said before ‘n I'll echo it one more time - NOT for me! You can have my share of living in places where there are things alive ‘n waiting to strike at me. Nope. <ugh>
Liked the Pennsy calendar shot too! Easy to see why it's your favorite . . .
Mention of the Gilbert Hall of Science evoked some memories from my childhood. Recall that great street level window display of those wonderful American Flyer trains!! Also a short walk to the Lionel "building" where there was a terrific display of pretty much everything they made along with a super-sized layout. Remember I surely do!!
Round, visit, fotos ‘n chat most welcome!
Per (marthastrainyard) at 8:17 PM Wednesday - Sep 12th: Happy to see ya again ‘n finding things of interest to ya here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside! Over the 29 months that we've been in cyber space, more times than not the info provided by our guys is dependable ‘n current. Yes, there have (and will be) times where amendments have to be made, but as in any "conversation" in a bar, once we get "group connect," it's just amazing how quickly we get to the facts . . .
Nice looking scene from the club layout. Tell us more about that operation in Dallas! BUT save it for next Wednesday- our OPTIONAL Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! <grin>
Lars is a clever, clever man - he "got ya" to reveal the origin of "Per," knowing all along that it means "Peter." He's of Norwegian descent ‘n there's no way I'd believe he didn't already know. Just his way of getting some "conversation" going.
If Wolfman Pete is on sked - they should be boarding the Southwest Chief this morning in LA. He said they'd be in KCity on Saturday, where they'll have a wait for the afternoon train to Jefferson City, which is "home." Expect we'll see a resumption of activity from him on Monday . . .
Round, visit, foto ‘n chat
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, I would like a double Cheese burger. Lots of raw onion and pickles! Thanks!
Wednesday, a warm day. But nice. It is going to get warmer tomorrow.
Tom – Very interesting article about a scale I know nothing about, scale 00! I have heard the brand names like Hornby and Tri-ang, but I never had any of their models. Maybe Allan has a NZ Hornby model?JanOlov – A couple of well known songs today, Orange Blossom Special and On the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe! I have both of them on records. Lars – I am sure stealthy Pete managed to sneak out of sight and say Hi (or whatever) to Sonia! I guess he learned from his boss. I think Pete will show up Monday!Big Boy! What else could I ask for? OK, a Challenger is also acceptable!
I have shown this pix before but it is a Big Boy! Pomona, CA.Ron – Beware of rattlesnakes! We have quite a few of them in this area. Your first model is a German Class 80. I like that scratch-built combine! Are you planning to add trucks and couplers? I noticed that the Bachmann Mogul does not have any flanges on the second pair of drivers. Nice model of that Birney type trolley! Is it powered? I understand that all these models (except the German Class 80) are G gauge. That area around the pond looks perfect for garden railroading! Hope you will keep us posted on the progress!Per – I remember the difference in speed when i upgraded several years ago. I would say it is worth the extra cost. Nice part of the club layout! But if you are moving back to California next year, what will happen to your Wylie scene?
Good Evening everybody present! And Happy Monthiversary (take that, spell checker!)
Leon, please a round for everybody and a Reserva for me. Haven’t tasted that good stuff for over two months now. And I should trust Tom on this one, there will be no adverse impact!
Thanks to all of you for the birthday greetings! Yes, Milepost 62. It’s been a very interesting ride so far. I jumped on the train at around milepost 5, so I have some memories of different things, not just trains, to share. Travel in general is of great interest to me and after retiring next year I hope to be able to scan some of my pictures and put them up for the rest of you to see.
Thank you for the interesting history on the 00 and Tri-Ang, Tom. I had never really understood the reason for a scale so close to H0 but now I see why they did it. And I remember the Meccano sets I had as a kid, never the big sets, but mostly enough to build something fun and interesting. It’s Erector Sets over here, isn’t it?
James, what a great shot of the E37. It reminds me of the Dm class engine Eric posted; seems to be the same kind of idea behind the two engines.
And yes, Eric, I had dial-up before. It had gotten so bad that I could hardly even read regular email so I bit the bullet and upgraded. There are still some bugs to sort out, but it is FAST!
Jan Olov, there you go again! Along the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe! But let me tell you, I’m prepared for you when you post Chattanooga Choo-Choo, I used to know most of that text so humming along to that will be easy. I didn’t get all of your pictures, I wonder if that’s another glitch I have to work out with my new connection here.
Lars, “Per” is actually my first name. It’s Swedish and a short form of Peter. I like you Big Boy pictures. There is one of those engines on display here in Dallas and it is BIG!
That area you have set aside for a garden layout, Ron, is just beautiful! I am sure you will get a great layout. The Marklin gauge 1 engine seems to be the same as the “standard” Marklin starter set H0 engine they had (or maybe still have).
Let me just end this with a picture of my Wylie scene on the club layout here in Dallas:
There is still a lot to do in that little area, but it is coming along pretty well.
Good day Tom and all present. Drinks on me and Guinness for me. Todays calendar: Tomorrow will be my favorite.
Yesterday, not only being 9/11, was also my daughter's birthday, so we all went to her house to celebrate it. We had to kill a 4 foot rattlesnake halfway down our 1000 ft driveway. Our Grand kids walk along that driveway when they get off the school bus each day. The snake was very aggressive when we approached it. When it couldn't be coaxed to slither away into the woods, we had to terminate it. Ah the perils of country life. I know today is toy and model train day, so I have a few I will share with you. These are from my collection of G gauge trains. The first is of a Marklin loco in gauge 1.
Next: a partially complete scratch-built combine. All it needs are trucks and couplers.
Next: a reworked mogul from Bachmann.
Next: a D&RG coach circa 1870's
Finally, an old scratch-built Birney type trolley.
Tom: A very informative piece on OO gauge trains. I can remember the first OO engine I saw when I was about 9 or 10. I had a school chum who lived in a very fashionable apartment on Park Avenue. It had a doorman and awning outside. Even in those days, entry was controlled to keep out trash (me???). Anyway, the apartment was huge with rooms separated by French doors. His name was Morton and he had the largest toy railroad I had ever seen. It was all Lionel standard gauge. The tracks ran from room to room and was as large as the AC Gilbert, Hall of Science exhibit or the Lionel layouts in Macys at Christmas time, or at least it seemed. He also had the OO gauge locomotive. I think it was a Hudson by Either Lionel or AC Gilbert. It's funny how some things stick in the back of your brain after so many years.
A belated happy birthday to Per. I'm not sure you were here when I first signed on, but have a drink on me.
Lars: I have to say, locomotive pictures look better in black and white than color. They seem to be more dramatic in B&W.
James: A beautiful shot of the EF5. Although I like all things trains, electrics are by and far my favorite. I believe the Virginian railway and the Erie had some giant electric boxcabs.
Here's a magazine ad for a line of trains that look interesting.
Garden railway update: Now that temperatures are starting to drop, the urge to return to garden railroading has reared it's ugly head. Previously, my biggest problem was how to cut the grass around ground level trackwork. Even a string trimmer can raise havoc with track. I noticed an area within my 8 acre spread where the grass doesn't seem to grow very fast. It's around a pond, but will look like a lake in "G" gauge. The following foto shows the area for the railroad. The geese are no longer in residence as they moved next door to another pond.
I plan to run trains with on-board cordless battery packs and eventually radio control.
Most Happy Monthly Anniversary to "Our" Place -
29 months at the Watering Hole by the Wayside!
Ruth my deAH, a tankard of Keiths fine ale if you please, slide the snack try down my way wudja please, ‘n a round on me! Boris, it's feeding time for the crittAHs, so give Tex his saucer of brine, Awk a try of seeds, Frostbite his bucket of ice cubes, Juneau his chew bone - and - Artie his field mouse <ugh> - be sure to take him outback for that!! Yes, yes, the small jar of PPF is for YOU when finished!
So, we're witnessing yet another attempt to "get the goods" on us, huh Seems like some men at the bar need to be walked the plank! Hey, not a bad thought . . . <grin>
Had some mixed thoughts as a result of yesterday being an "anniversary" for a horrific event in our land. Been thinking about the numbers of young people who probably didn't even reflect one bit regarding the happenings 6 years ago. People who go about their lives as if all of this has no impact. Thinking about those who are so angry about this ‘n that, but wouldn't lift a finger to defend our country. Running down the country seems about the only thing so many have on their minds. Makes me sad to think about the troops who are getting shot at every day, or blown up, or both - while so many others do nothing but play at keyboards. Yeah, mixed emotions from a guy who served, whose 3 sons served, and would honorably do so again if called.
First off, my apologies to any who found my ‘screwed up' fotos objectionable in any way. Don't know how that happened other than to say one was definitely a Photo Bucket "thing," whereas the other was with the web site I got the pix from. They've been corrected. So thanks to Eric in the desert (our Desert Fox!!) who found the mistakes ‘n pointed ‘em out.
Feud, says the Proprietor?? Nah - maybe one WILL result if this nonsense doesn't stop regarding our fair lady, Ruth, is concerned. But not over fotos . . . nope.
Been a strange day without the guy from West Virginia - you know, CM3 I'm NOT Shane! <grin> But we've managed to hang in there anyway.
Yesterday (Tuesday) turned out quite well, all highlighted by the return of a friend who goes by the handle of "Per." Perhaps (no pun intended) he'll tell us how that nickname came to be. Anyway, good to see the man - sorry to learn of his injury - but glad we can look forward to some dialogue from our man in Texas!
Also most happy to note the appearance by our man who lives "upside down" in NZ!! <grin> Good to see ya, Allan, ‘n I invite you try one of my favorite brews - R&H from my home town. Ran some ads ‘n info on it awhile ago.
So when do we begin the "count down" for the return of the Bar Chandler Pete Doesn't look like he's going to show up while on vacation. But maybe his Mrs. has him tethered tightly so as not to wander too far. Wonder if Sonia found her way to California Anyway, just wondering ‘stuff.' <grin>
Jan stopped by with more lyrics. Even though we've seen these lyrics many times on our pages here and over on the original site, they fit right in with our theme of Classic Trains! Supplementing the lyrics with photos is a great idea!
Hey Bossman! Nice job with that Toy Trains spread. Lots of good info that may flick the switch for a few of our Brit friends. [tup ]
Sorry, but I haven't found anything "worthy" for the optional Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! BUT, I do have some book ‘n DVD covers!!
Good evening Tom and fellow train travellers...
Could I please have an extra cold Guinness and a top up with cigar around the bar? Just a quick visit to how you lads are doing and to put some $$$ in the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.
Tom, nice read about OO gauge and British Model Trains...
A few more selected railroad songs to enjoy....
Orange Blossom SpecialLook a-yonder comin'Comin' down that railroad trackHey, look a-yonder comin'Comin' down that railroad trackIt's the Orange Blossom SpecialBringin' my baby backWell, I'm going down to FloridaAnd get some sand in my shoesOr maybe CalifornyAnd get some sand in my shoesI'll ride that Orange Blossom SpecialAnd lose these New York blues"Say man, when you going back to Florida?""When am I goin' back to Florida? I don't know, don't reckon I ever will.""Ain't you worried about getting your nourishment in New York?""Well, I don't care if I do-die-do-die-do-die-do-die."Hey talk about a-ramblin'She's the fastest train on the lineTalk about a-travellin'She's the fastest train on the lineIt's that Orange Blossom SpecialRollin' down the seaboard line
The Rock Island Line
Now, this here's the story about the Rock Island lineNow, the Rock Island line is a railroad lineAnd it runs down into New OrleasnAnd just outside of New Orleans is a big toll gateAnd all the trains that go through the toll gateWhy, they gotta pay the man some moneyLess of course, they got certain things on boardThen they okay, then they don't ever have to pay the man nothin'And right now, we see a trainShe's comin' on down the lineAnd when she got up here to the toll gateThe-a depot, he shout down to the driverHe want to know what he got on boardSo he say aWhat you got on board there, boyAnd the driver, he sing right on backDown to the depot agentTell him what he got on boardThe got a way of singingI got sheep, I got cowsI got horses, I got pigsI got all livestockI got all livestockI got all livestockAnd the man say, well, he sayYour alright there, boyYou don't have to pay me nothin'Just get 'em on throughSo the train go through the toll gateAnd as it go throughIt got up a little bit of steamAnd a, a little bit of speedAnd when he sees meOn the other side of the toll gateThey, the driver shout backDown the line to the man'Course you don't hear what he say nowBut home down the Rock Island lineI fooled you, I fooled youI got pig iron, I got pig ironI got all pig ironHe said, tell you where I'm goin', boyGoin' down the Rock Island line, yes, yesShe's a mighty good roadOh well, the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadRock Island line is the road to rideYa, the Rock Island lineIs a mighty good roadAnd if you want to rideYou gotta ride itLike you find itGet your ticket at the stationOn the Rock Island lineWell, I may be rightI may be wrongI know you're gonna miss me when I'm goneYa,the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadRock Island line is the road to rideYa, the Rock Island lineshe's a mighty good roadAnd if you want to rideYou gotta ride itLike you find itGet your ticket at the stationOn the Rock Island lineA B C, W X Y ZCat's in the cupboardBut he don't see meNow, the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadRock Island line is the road to rideYa, the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadAnd if you want to rideYou gotta ride itLike you find itGet your ticket at the stationOn the Rock Island lineHallaluah, I'm safe from sinThe good Lord's comin'For to see me againKeep it goin'And the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadRock Island line is the road to rideYa, the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadAnd if you want to rideYou gotta ride itLike you find itGet your ticket at the stationOn the Rock Island lineThe Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadRock Island line is the road to rideYa, the Rock Island lineShe's a mighty good roadAnd if you want to rideYou gotta ride itLike you find itGet your ticket at the stationOn the Rock Island line
Rock Island 4-6-2 Loco 853A Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific 4-6-2 locomotive #853works a 1920's passenger train along the main. Built bySchenectady in 1905, the #853 had 69" drivers, cylinderswith a bore of 22" and a stroke of 26", boiler pressure of200 lbs (per square inch), 31,000 pounds of tractiveeffort, and a total weight of 212,000 pounds.
Photographer unknown
On the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe
Do you hear that whistle down the line?I figure that it's engine number forty-nine,She's the only one that'll sound that way.On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa FeSee the ol' smoke risin' round the bend,I reckon that she knows she's gonna meet a friend,Folks around these parts get the time o' dayFrom the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa FeHere she comes!Ooh, ooh, ooh,Hey, Jim! yuh better git the rig!Ooh, ooh, ooh,She's got a list o' passengers that's pretty bigAnd they'll all want lifts to Brown's Hotel,'Cause lots o' them been travelin' for quite a spell,All the way from Phil-a-del-phi-ay,On the Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe.(repeat)Santa Fe 3774 on "Chief" out of LA Action and power is the name of the game as the bigSanta Fe Northern #3774 highball's the main with the"Chief" out of Los Angeles, California, 1939.
Photographer: Fred C. Stoes
Pan American
I have heard your stories about your fast trainsBut now Ill tell you about one all the southern folks have seen|gShes the beauty of the southlands listen to that whistle screa
Time again for our OPTIONAL Toy 'n Model Trains Day! here at the Bar by the Ballast. As you may or may not recall, this feature at "Our" Place has been going on for years. Initially begun by a long-gone UTB, it was called "Pike Perspectives Day," then later changed when it became apparent that many of our guyz didn't have operating model railroads, but did have lots of memories 'n "stuff" sequestered away in boxes.
Here's an oldie that was initially Posted on Page 288, 29 Mar 2006 on the Original Thread:
OO gauge and British Model Trains Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. OO gauge Hornby Railways Flying Scotsman locomotive on an OO gauge layout (photo: Les Chatfield - Wikimedia Commons) OO gauge model railways are the most popular standard in the United Kingdom, being one of several 4 mm scale standards (4 mm to the foot (305 mm), or 1:76.2) in use, but the only one served by mass market manufacturers. OO uses 16.5 mm gauge track, which is inaccurate for 4 mm scale (it is accurate for HO scale). Many experienced modellers therefore find the OO standard inadequate, and they tend to model using the older EM gauge or the modern, exact scale P4 scale. History Double-O scale model railways were first launched by Bing in 1921 as 'The Table Railway', running on 16.5mm track and scaled at 4 mm to the foot (305 mm). In 1922, the first models of British prototypes appeared. Initially all locomotives were powered by clockwork, but the first electric power appeared in the Autumn of 1923. OO gauge was based on HO scale (3.5 mm:1 ft (305 mm)), and kept the same gauge. However, the large propulsion mechanisms could not fit into the small British prototypes, so the scale was enlarged to (4 mm:1 ft (305 mm)) without altering the gauge. This means that the scale gauge represents 4'1½", seven inches narrower than the prototype 4'8½" gauge. It is also used to represent the 5'3" Irish broad gauge where it is a scale 13½ inches too narrow. This difference is noticeable, especially when looking down the track. In 1932, the Bing company collapsed, but the Table Railway continued to be manufactured by the new Trix company. However, Trix decided to use a new standard of 3.5mm to the foot or 1:87, and this scale came to be known as 'HO'. (It is thought that this may have originated as 'Half-O' gauge, but there is no proof of this.) In 1938, the Meccano Company launched a new range of OO models under the trade name of Hornby DublO, and the OO scale has remained as the UK's most popular ever since. In the United States, Lionel Corporation introduced a range of OO models in 1938 as well. It did not prove popular and only remained on the market until 1942. OO gauge was quickly eclipsed by HO scale. OO today The two main manufacturers of ready-to-run model railways are Hornby Railways and Bachmann Branchline, a subsidiary of Bachmann Trains. A third major manufacturer of accessories (particularly track) is Peco. Manufacturers
Tri-ang Railways Triang Railways was an English manufacturer of toy trains, one of the elements of the Tri-ang company. Tri-Ang model railroad set from 1961 (GNU Free Documentation) History Tri-ang name The brothers George and Joseph Lines made wooden toys in the Victorian age, their company being G & J lines Ltd. Joseph was the active partner while George went into farming. Joseph (or Joe) had four sons. Three of these - William, Walter and Arthur Edwin Lines - formed Lines Bros Ltd soon after World War I. Three Lines make a triangle, hence the Tri-ang. Arthur's son, Richard Lines, was largely responsible for the Tri-ang Railways system. Foundation of Tri-ang Railways A 1960s Book of Trains. (fair use) Rovex Plastics Ltd was founded just after the World War II in 1946 by Alexander Venetzian, who made toys for Marks & Spencer. Venetzian was asked to develop an electric toy train set for Christmas 1950. He delivered the product but although the company had found larger premises in a former Brewery in Richmond, it was constrained financially. Line Bros were looking to expand into railways and so they purchased Rovex. Their products would be sold under the Tri-ang Railways name from 1951. To give room for development they moved the company now Rovex Scale Models Ltd to a brand new factory built at Margate, in Kent, in 1954. The success of Tri-ang mean that British competitors Trix and Hornby-Dublo were affected. In 1964, Hornby Dublo, a division of Meccano Ltd, had stopped production and Meccano Ltd invited Lines Bros. Ltd to buy them out. Tri-ang purchased the c
PLEASE READ THESE MORNING ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!!
Wednesday's Witticism
Experience is another word for mistakes.
Mid-week in mid-continent USA where the petrol price has risen to $2.60 (rounded) uyp at "Collusion Corner." Temps have dropped rather nicely into what I'd call early Fall! Supposed to remain "nice" through the weekend. Awwwwwwright, finally got here.
Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh! Breakfasts ready to order from our Menu Board - so let's get going, Gents!!
Kudos to those of you who took the time ‘n made the effort to recognize a most significant day in U.S. history - and - recognition for one of our customers on the B'day Watch List!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 8:40 AM Tuesday - Sep 11th: Our WVA Connection "connected" with some USAF "stuff"'n interesting chat to begin the day! Awesome audio . . .
Hope you get the chance to peruse what's been Posted when you come up for air! Such is life for the working man, eh
Round ‘n quarters most welcome!
Jan (JanOlov) at 2:31 PM Tuesday- Sep 11th: Wouldn't be a day at the bar without a visit from our Resident Swede in Scotland!
Lotsa smoke in that foto!
"Top up," tips ‘n money for Herr Wurltizer appreciated!
Ron (DD1) at 4:40 PM Tuesday - Sep 11th: Nope, didn't catch that Alaska presentation you mentioned - although I've seen so many over the years, perhaps it's one seen before. Thanx for mentioning it though . . .
Our Resident Southern Gentlemen down in Ole Miss didn't disappoint with another fine PRR calendar shot!
Suggestion: Put your "links" on a CD . . . save your bucks for buying model trains!
Sorry, but you can have my share of high temps ‘n humidity - changing clothes that often means I'd be outta there! <groan>
Thanx for the visit ‘n round!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 4:41 PM Tuesday - Sep 11th: A later than usual afternoon visit from our Manager and with some fine steam locos from the era of Classic Trains!
It's a strange division that the Cardinals are in - they dropped 5 in a row ‘n are still in contention with a record below .500. Good Gawd Gertie!! There was a sports "clip" yesterday that ran down all of the injuries the team has had this season ‘n it's really eye-opening, fer sure, fer sure. No team in the majors has lost so many for so long, so "they said," ‘n still remain in the hunt. RIP.
Honestly don't know what to say about our Left Coast Connection, West Coast S (Dave). He disappears quite often, only to resurface later on. That's a tendency some others have ‘round here. Thing is - it's hard to simply pick up from where one left off in light of so much material Posted ‘n Pages amassed . . . RIP.
Appreciate the rounds, fotos ‘n visit!
Per (marthastrainyard) at 7:52 PM Tuesday - Sep 11th: And guess what Our Resident Texas Swede did return as "promised" in his Email! Probably figured there'd be some B'day presents awaiting him . . .
Glad you're on the mend ‘n hope you'll be back to a full range of activities before too long! By the by - this is a cyber bar ‘n grill in the Ether. Meaning: you can drink ‘n eat anything you desire WITHOUT any adverse impact!! So, don't fall into that "trap" of confusing "reality" with what goes on ‘round here!! <grin> Have another, Mate - make it a double! <grin>
Looking forward a resumption of participation from you . . .
Greetings Tom and brothers,
May have an extra cold Guinness for myself, top up and cigars for the lads please? Let's see.......fridge and freezer are both full.....good.
Tom, the people that made those ads could teach todays hip crowd about to do a nice and tasteful ad....beautiful stuff
DD1, thank you kindly for the Guinness mate. That is a very nice artwork on the GG1. If you ask me, there is no bad angle on a GG1 or anyhting like that....no Sir! Your next round is on me....
Da Larsman, I see what you're coming from, I'd hate to you guys into trouble you know. I'll keep my eyes and ears open to your backs clear.... Maybe "above photos from" etc. etc. Great steamers as always mate. It's too bad that diesel electrics and electrics behave and sound like steamlocomotives....
marthastrainyard, nae bother mate! Glad to be of service. Let's see if I can find some other songs to get stuck in your head.... Glad you enjoyed.
Gunneral, no problem. I'm a 90% steam fan when it comes to railroads, the other 10% are dielsels and electrics.... Glad you enjoyed.CMSTPP, Dave seem to be THE man on SP, let's hope that he returns in a near future. Glad you enjoyed them. I really like your Milwaukee Road pictures and very much look forward to see more from you.
EricX2000, I agree with you on the behalf of the some peoples "Admin work", seem to be A LOT of it.....probably best to pretend we don't notice. Great picture on the Dm3
Some more steamers.....
Western Pacific 252/frt Feather River....
Harsh, glaring sun highlights, silhouettes, and isshadowed by Western Pacific 2-8-8-2 252 as it works aheavy freight up the Feather River Canyon.Photograph by: Fred C. Stoes
WP 2-8-8-2 #253 Feather River Canyon Western Pacific 253 sits high atop a rock cribbingoverlooking the Feather River Canyon. The day is dark,and cold, and wet. The engine is all powerful on itsconsist.
Photograph by: Fred C. Stoes
Western Pacific 2-8-8-2, #259, full-on Western Pacific giant 2-8-8-2 locomotive, #259, is seenleading a long freight during a wet 1942 winter day inOroville, California. It seems orders are being transfered.The trick for the man on the ground was to stand closeenough to the moving giant to pass the orders off, but nottoo close!
Southern Pac. 4-6-6-2's Double-headTwo Southern Pacific 4-6-6-2 locomotives with #3905 onthe point work a long freight drag through Altamont Passone bright 1936 Sunday afternoon.
Photographer: Fred C. StoesSouthern Pacific cab-ahead 3907/406Southern Pacific cab-forward 4-6-6-2, #3907, is seen onfreight #406 in Niles Canyon.
SP 2-8-8-2 #4041 in snow at TruckeeSouthern Pacific 2-8-8-2 #4041 waits at Truckee,California in the snow for assignment on Donner.late 1930'S.Photographer: Fred C. StoesSouthern Pacific #4208/freight, 1939Southern Pacific cab-forward, 4-6-6-2 #4208 is seen onfreight #408 at the highway bridge in Niles Canyon,California, 1937. Seemingly out of sequence, engines4200 through 4211 were originally designated as such.When the large block of new 4-8-8-2 4200 series camealong the earlier numbers were vacated in 1938 and the4-6-6-2's became #3900 through #3911. Ironically, FredStoes captured this view shortly before renumbering.Photographer: Fred C. StoesCredit: All photos from yesteryeardepot and taken by Fred C. Stoes.
Have a great day fellas! I'm of to get some sleep after a hard nights work....
Leon, just a cup of coffee, please, that is it! I have to get some sleep so no time to eat.
First, Happy Anniversary To Our Place!!! 29 months, counting!!!
Only 247 days until Our 3rd Annual Rendezvous!!!
More activities than expected this Tuesday. And a nice suprise, Per stopped by!!!
JanOlov – To get damaging pictures? Just ask Boris not to disconnect the camera every time Manager Lars and Ruth are going to do their admin work. Just offer some good stuff for Boris to eat. Thanks for the pictures and story on SP test of new Daylight! Very interesting reading and pictures from some places I know. The picture of Tehachapi Loop is something else! Tom – I will never forget what happened this day six years ago. Let’s just hope it will never happen again and never forget the people that did not survive. Pete has his vacation a few weeks too late! He should have had it before I went back to work. Then I could have covered his time slot. I thought I would be able to post some prepared posts from the office, but we are very busy now and there is hardly time to go the restroom. Pete will be back soon though!Very nice posters from yesteryear! Including Grand Canyon! But I like the first one the best, “Streamlining through Wonderful Florida!CM3 – Thanks for the links the Commemorative Air Force and the USAF!I have added them to my bookmarks. The Cardinals lost when there was only 22 seconds remaining! No comments!There was quite a few kids at Salinas, CA, when we stopped there with the X2000 in July 1993! The mayor brought a nice gift containing wine and other goodies. Lars – Sure, let’s make a wager if the D-Backs will square off against the Mets in the playoffs! The 4-4-4 in your picture has number 1 (under the headlight). Lady Baltimore was a 4-4-4 and had number 1. Abraham Lincoln was a 4-6-2 and had number 5314. The very same picture you showed is on the link below as Lady Baltimore.http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo1cs.jpgAbraham Lincoln is on this link.http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo5314s.jpgA bunch of Canadian, CN, steam locomotives this time. Picture 1 shows the same locomotive as picture 2, CN #5045, 4-6-2.Must be a reason for this. Is that site screwed up or is Ruth helping you? Hmmm. Per – Welcome back, Sir! Good to see you again, you have been missed!! Belated Happy Birthday!!! Sorry to hear about fall and shoulder problems. Hopefully the therapy and doctors will take care of it and bring you back to more normal conditions! Physical therapy three times a week! I’ll go to rehab three times a week and that helps a lot after my surgery. Fiber optic broadband, that is nice. What kind of connection did you have before this? Dial-up? There are still a number of Rc1’s in service. Most of them are now remote controlled (radio) and used for switching. The roundhouse is located in Hallsberg. Get well!!! Looking forward to see you again soon!Allan – I did not have any problems opening this sitehttp://www.geocities.com/ormondvillerail/I’ll go back and check that site again later. Seems to be a lot of stuff to read!I found a few pictures at the MOTAT site. It seems like they have all kinds of transportation equipment. James – Most of the locomotives I have been operating are electrics. Probably 90% of them. The rest are dieseil-electric locos. But I prefer electrics. Thanks for the pictures! I like that boxcab E37! The SD10 looks lost in all that green stuff. I have another electric for tonight. It is a Class Dm3. 9,655 hp and 211,320 lbs tractive effort.
Leon- Good to see you tonight. The Duluth area already has frost warnings out... Any frost here yet Anyway, I think I will take a 5 dollar coffee... Nothing more tonight. Thanks.
Tom- Looking good on your passenger nostalgia. The Canadian Pacific Passenger trains were some of the nicest looking trains avaliable in Canada. I really like that Dome observation. Even on Via rail, it still looks nice. Do they still run those cars on the Via trains
Well, your railway advertisements are very nice looking. If only you could go ahead and ride those trains again. except one problem....... I don't think I could ride the trains from Germany.. I could if I lived there.<grin>
DD1- Some good looking pics. That last painting with the Steel King in it was a good pic. I am impressed with the pics you show. I like to see all of these paintings. I love to paint and I hope to make another painting soon... I just don't know of what I should paint on it... Any suggestions from the audience?? Anyway, keep the pics coming, they inspire me to paint. Thanks for sharing.
Lars- I see you have posted a few steam pics. Some nice ones at that. The most impressive steamer you showed was the CN #6149. That is one nice looking locomotive. I suppose it was used for passenger service but I don't see any destinctive mark that gives that away.. Plus I don't know to much about CN steam locomotives, but a nice pic.
Eric- Another electric locomotive. I remember the last time I tried to understand them (zap) But they are some of the neatest locos around. I do enjoy seeing pics of electric locos. I think I will be posting a few pics of the Milwaukee electrics after this. Thanks for the cool pic.
Jan- Thanks for the neat pics of the Daylight. I am not very familiar with that train which is why I wish Dave was back. He could explain things about the SP and the daylight that no man knew... That is cool. But a great narrative. They were certainly the most impressive passenger train here in the United States. That red color compliments the orange very well. I might not be into the Southern Pacific, but I must admit that it was the probably the most impressive Passenger train out there. Thanks for sharing.
A SPECIAL MOMENT HAS COME!!! Per is back and has reached Mile post 62!!! Welcome back my friend. Hope to see some great posts from you sir.
Now for some pics.
I will have some more narrative for tomorrow from page 108.
One of my favorite shots from the night is this one. E37 sits at Othello, WA in wait for more things to do. This is an EF5 series Boxcab, meaning there are for units in this consist making it the largest electric in the Untied States. At 1350 HP each and impressive 120,000 pounds tractive effort it made these boxcabs the most superior of electrics. Neat shot, eh!!
This SD10, built by the Milwaukee Road for branchline service, was one of the more unique locomotives. The SD10 was an SD9 but with a chopped nose and an airintake to allow better air flow for the engine. This one works hard to pull grain cars out of a valley somewhere in southern Minnesota or Iowa. Hmmmmmm, I think it's riding on grass rails.
Hi Tom and all,
In rememberance of all those lost in 9/11, "We will remember them"!
Leon a round of Tui for all the crew please.
Tom. Just a short visit this time, time is tight at the moment, so thanks for all the great posts over the past days`.
Ron. Sorry to hear of your loss, they are so much an integral part of the family!
Eric, Dan, Ron, CM3. They have a great transport museum in Auckland called MOTAT, it covers all the main forms of transport, they have a Sort Sunderland, a Solent and a Lancaster there together with a working tram line. They have a site but it has been upgraded and does not have a photo gallery now,
http://www.motat.org.nz/
You can have a look anyway.
Lars and Jan. Great steam photos`, loved them all.
To all. Really enjoyed all the info and pics on all the posts`. There is a NZ railway station about 20 miles south of where we live, it has been fully restored to its former glory and is now used as a home stay, it even has a resident "Ghost" as a part of the stay over! If you Google "Ormondville railway station New Zealand" you should get to it OK, the site wo`nt open on Geocites from here, I keep striking this problem with some site addresses here in NZ not opening for some reason! The MOTAT address works OK!
Their are some photos` on the site of the Bay Express that used to run through here
Per. Good to see you mate, "HAPPY BIRTHDADAY TO YOU"
See ya, Allan
Good Evening everybody present!
Leon, please a round for everybody and a GlenDronach for me. No, no ice, I help myself to a little bit of water over here.
I really should skip the strong stuff while I’m on my medication, but as long as I don’t chase the pills down with clear alcohol, it may be OJ (according to the Doc – and he ought to know).
I must be getting older than I care to admit. I had a bad fall two months ago, and it has resulted in a shoulder that doesn’t work as well as it should. Physical therapy three times a week helps a little bit, but I guess I need to get used to using a long handle brush to soap my back. Well, things could be worse, so I am humming along in here.
There is another reason for humming along: I just got my fiber optic broadband installed in my apartment today. All I can say is: “Oh Whoa”! Now I can post from home which is good since there isn’t any time left for that kind of thing at owkr anymore.
I started to look back at what has been posted, but it is so much and so many interesting topics, that I am just going to sit back and read. When I come up for air, I will post some acknowledgements and slowly get back into things here at the bar.
I like to thank Tom for checking in on me. It was a really nice gesture and I appreciate it very much! Thanks, Tom! You posted some really nice ads from way back when. I also thank Tom and Lars for the birthday greeting. It has become a somewhat strange day for a birthday, and people get a really confused look on their faces when I tell them I went to California to celebrate 9/11.
Lars, I liked the CZ pictures. Really nice! Now, if I just could get on one of those cars it would be even better!
Jan Olov had a really interesting post about the SP Daylight trains. Thanks for that! I enjoy the GS engines in their streamlined covers, a really classy engine. Thank you for the lyrics to “The City of New Orleans” now that song is stuck in my head!
Eric published some photos of the Rc class engines in Sweden. Those Rc1 are becoming quite rare aren’t they? (Are there any of them left?) Where is that roundhouse you pictured in 1975?
That’s about it for tonight. No pictures to share, but I will try to go chasing the UP train up in Oklahoma this weekend so maybe I will have some next week.
A somber toast to all of the innocents who perished in the September 11, 2001 attack on our nation! May their sacrifices never, ever be forgotten.
Ruth my deAH ‘tis the Larsman running rather late today. BUT, maybe a good thing in that we've been hurting in this time slot since our Bar Chandler has been away.
Ahhhh, let's see - how about a Schaefer in a frosty mug, treats for the crittAHs (feed ‘em Boris), small jar of PPF for the "man," ‘n a round on me! Of course the change is YOURS you sweet thing! <blush>
Being somewhat pressed once again, let me just make a couple of mentions:
A to Per - wherever you are! If Da Bossman sez you'll be back, I believe it! Hope it isn't too far off. Have one on me!
For Eric: Got that caption directly from this site for the B&O in question.
http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/baltohi.htm
If you've found something contrary, pass it on, mate!
Your Reptiles look as if they'll be in the playoffs. Wonder if they'll square off against my Mets Wanna make a wager on the outcome if they do Just something ‘friendly,' like drinks or something . . . No, no, no - can't use the Penthouse Suite! <uh oh>
For CM3 I'm NOT Shane! No Eli, no season the way I see it. Bring back Warner! <grin>
For Jan: You'd bettAH be quick on your feet, mate! No place to run or hide in that stairwell! <grrrrrrrrr>
A bunch of SP pix ‘n narrartives. Don't know how that website restricts use of their written stuff - but because I've been "nailed" using stuff improperly, you may want to ensure that you're on "solid ground." Most times the "credit" needs to go directly with the photos and/or narrative. Also, check to ensure that there are no copyright or other use restrictions. Again, I've "caused" pain ‘n suffering for Da Boss because I failed to do these things. Kalmbach "nailed" us both . . . but it was my doing.
For Da Boss: RR Book Relay has been read ‘n commented on ‘n will be in the mail tomorrow! Email sent . . . Quite a compilation ‘n I think the guys will find it a good read. Thanks for making me first!
Loved the six-pack #2 - keep ‘em coming!
I think your Cardinals have played themselves out of the race. Of course, they have some head-to-head games, which could put ‘em right back in it. Honestly don't see ‘em going far though because they have been decimated by injuries from the get-go of the season. Too many out to keep it going. As our old Brooklyn Dodger fans used to say - over ‘n over - Wait ‘til Next Year! Of course THAT was in response to dropping the World Series to the Yankees, over ‘n over. Big exception - 1955 -a great year, eh
Now for my next round of steamers!
CN #6031 4-8-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
CN #5045 4-6-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
CN #6307 4-8-4 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
CN #6071 4-8-2 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)
N&W #1218 2-6-6-4 Class A (credit unidentified)
If I've missed anyone - I'll try to catch up next time around!!
Of course I'll drive you home, Ruth - I'm ready when you are! <grin> <blush> <uh oh>
Until the next time!
Lars
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