Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Yes, we made it back and the K9 Korps has returned. Buffalo train show was as good as ever with a 1:1 0-6-0 switcher available for inspection. I was explaining to my son how the different parts of the locomotive worked and before I knew it we had about 35-40 people gathers around asking questions, etc. It was a lot of fun. Yes Boris, I did score two 1950-era ORGs for a total of $15.00; so a good time was had by all.
Now, let's go to press! Always wanted to say that (lol)
Pete - I would have ridden the RS3 back to Boston if I knew it was going to be the last one I saw running. The thing was that you never knew what they B&M would use in local freight service. The scariest thing of all was when they ran a GP18 over that roadbed. Talk about rock and roll. The GP18s were the biggest power they had until they got the GP40s. Enjoyed your Sacramento pictures, and the story abt. Llanfair. I guess we'll have to watch "A League of Their Own" to see the Zephyr for awhile.
Allan - Thanks for the kind words.
Eric - thanks to you, also. I liked the exotica from the Orange Empire Museum. Also enjoyed the pictures from the Old Country. Interesting BP tank car. The pictures form Hamburg were good as well. However, as for Penn Station - ARGH! YUCK! PATOOI!
Lars has been by with tons of material. The NYC FT is in the first NYC diesel paint. Excellent B&O material. John Stover passed away quite recently. The NC&StL has been kind of "rediscovered" lately. There were quite a few N&C folks around when I lived in Nashville and I learned a great deal about "Grandpa's Railroad" from talking with them. Also photographed a lot of it and rode passenger trains over it both before Amtrak and also after Amtrak when they would detour the "Fast Flying Flo" when the "Old Reliable" put stuff on the ground. FM in Color - I remember them live! The LV material you sent along was a good mixture as well. Come to the rendezvous and see color shots of the snowbirds in action and in the LV shops - yes, Boris, I was there! Giants are still good cop/bad cop at QB. They will go into theior usual second half collapse, I'm afraind. Right now, everyone is focused on West Virginia's achanges. Thank you, Hogs and thank you Mizzou.
Jan has sent along a variety of historical material and pictures. The B&O was at one time quite a presence in Fairmont. The big steam was later replaced by geeps and lots F units. Oakvale - very close by as is Christiansburg and Bluefield. The C&O shots were enjoyable. The picture "east of Montgomery" is, indeed located in the GMCMA (Great Mt. Carbon Metropolitan Area) The photo location is just west of the VGN bridge which crosses over the C&O at Deepwater, to reach the NYC (K&M yard) on the other side of the river. I got a picture of the Chessie Steam Special in the same spot yrs ago when they were running the old RDG T1 over here.
DD1 - Transport of Delight - excellent!
DL stopped by with comments and so did Rob with comments and pictures.
Doug - DPM writing about the FEC - lovely stuff! I also enjoyed the lovely shot of OSP's trip to Branson on the RR Mag cover.
Fergie stopped by with some interesting S&L material - a line which many people don't know much about.
OSP has returned. The GP30m was r/b at Huntington by the C&O (Chessie) as part of a larger r/b program. Much of the work done to these engines was internal. The modified battery box cover with the long vent as shown in the photo was about the only external change to them. I remember a long time ago posting a piece about the C&O 30s.
Good movie choices, sir! Also liked the picture of the Erie Alco with the car floats on the Jersey side.
Work safe
LoveDomes wrote:Now there IS this mattAH of a <tweeting> that you received from Da Bossman back on pages 137 & reminded on 141. From 137 [ quote] Monday 05 - Nov 2007:Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations! Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>
LoveDomes wrote:
Now there IS this mattAH of a <tweeting> that you received from Da Bossman back on pages 137 & reminded on 141. From 137 [ quote] Monday 05 - Nov 2007:
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!
<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations!
Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>
Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>
Re: Rule #1 Greetings Captain Tom and Crew
Re: Rule #2 I'll have today's special... The John Wayne Special!
Re: Rule #53 Ok you dirty rat.... You'll never get me on that one. BTW would you like the scuppers primed and painted as well?
Guido has been taken care of, Nothing a $5 bill and a Kieth's won't take care of.
Anyway it's blowing 40 kts here so I won't stick around for long!
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Now Arriving on Track #1
A Nickel's Worth of Classic Covers!
Number Four
Caveat: Use of the images presented is made under the provisions of Public Domain. There is no intent to profit or otherwise benefit from the display of these images except for personal pleasure.
(1) RR Magazine - 1946 - The Circus on the Tracks
(2) RR Magazine - 1950 - Traveling
(3) RR Magazine - 1954 - Railroads of the Twin Cities
(4) RR Magazine - 1942 - Freight Through the Wilderness
(5) RR Magazine - 1949 - Through the Storm
Enjoy!
Tom
Missed any
#1 . . . Page 117
#2 . . . Page 123
#3 . . . Page 135
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, a lunchtime visit from the Larsman, so I'll take my "usual." A ham ‘n Swiss with mustAHd ‘n buttAH on a hard grinder roll (we call ‘em hoagies where I come from) along with two large extra crunchy pickles from the barrel. Save a saucer of brine for Tex, which reminds me - Boris, feed the crittAHs! When you're done, that small jar of PPF is for you.
Ruth, a round for the house ‘n the change is for you my deAH!
Really good to see the return of our Bar Chandler Pete who made the afternoon a bit more lively ‘round this joint than expected. Nice going, mate! Now, there's lots of work to be done beginning with restocking our private cars on the siding. You, Boris ‘n Leon need to get those cars filled before week's end. <phew> No rest for the wicked weary!
A visit from Allan from down under always brightens up the place. Appreciate the mention of the book covers, this last batch from the B&O are special in meaning for me.
Excellent background on that Nova Scotia-Cape Breton railroad from Fergie! Nice effort and I'm sure when the guys get back here they will enjoy the write-up too.
Now there IS this mattAH of a <tweeting> that you received from Da Bossman back on pages 137 & reminded on 141. From 137 Monday 05 - Nov 2007:Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations! Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>
Monday 05 - Nov 2007:Fergie (Fergmiester) at 6:48 AM: Really hate to do this <grin> but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do <uh oh> Grab your stern section - here it comes!<tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> <tweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet> Rules Violations! Rules Violations! Rule #1 - Failure to greet the barkeep upon entering! <grrrrrrrrrr> Rule #2 - Failure to order drink or food! <geesh> - and - Rule #53 - Suspected selective reading of the Posts! <for shame>! Penalties: Wire brush the scuppers - scour the slop chute ‘n swab the galley! <yikes> - AND - don't do that anymore! <uh oh>Mentioning that you're going to buy a round isn't the same as DOING IT! <geesh>Vito said he'd be sending one of his boyz to fit you for some shoes <cement I think>! <ommmigosh>
As always, some fine photos from Da Bossman. An interesting passenger car that makes me wondAH . . . always like seeing a caboose! FRISCO, now there's a road one didn't see very much of where I call home. St. Louis had some roads, huh Again, nice work!
By the way - WHERE IS ERIC
Here's the last of the batch from the Larsman Mobile on the B&O . . .
Trackside along the B&O - 1957-58
B&O Steam Finale - Vol 2
B&O RR in the Potomac Valley
Triumph VI - Pioneer and Challenger - 1827-2003
Ruth, we've got some <ahem> admin matters to attend to on your break! <blush>
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Just caught Shane's return post! Glad you made it back safely 'n we're really looking forward to anything you can help out with . . . Yeah, that Steelers game was a mess, truly a sloppy mess. Then again the Pats didn't look "awesome" on Sunday, huh
Gotta use that REFRESH feature guyz - it woIks! <laff>
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Until the next time!
Lars
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffe, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
We enjoyed(?) six different kinds of weather driving back from Buffalo yesterday. Yes, Boris, it was raining in Pittsburgh in the afternoon just like it did during the Steelers game last night.
I'm going to go back through recent posts and try and get caught up, then will resume regular posting although i will definitely be varying from my usual a.m. slot.
work safe
Good Afternoon Capt. Tom and Crew
Looks like a few new patrons since my last visit! Anyway I'll take a Kieth's and a Reuban with an extra pickle pLease and thanks.
Well I'm back at it and heading out to the Flemish Cap some 300 miles+ from St John's. Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't these your old stomping grounds Tom?
We'll be rearranging furniture out here until December 10th or thereabouts then back home in time for Christmas.
I realize that some of you asked sometime back of the history of the MESS. Well that's still being developed however it is loosely based on the history of the Sydney & Louisburg Railway. I dug this up from the their historical society and it's a good read. Look at the tonnage ratings! This was accomplished with a variety of old Locos such as 2-8-2's and 2-8-0's that were second and thrid hand me downs from some of the bigger US Railroads.
The first coal mine on the island was opened by the French at Cow Bay (Port Morien) in 1720, and a little more than a century later some of the first railroad track in North America was laid to facilitate the removal of coal to local shipping wharves. The mining industry developed rapidly, if a bit erratically, during the 19th century. In a thirty-six year period near the close of the century, 30 new mines were opened, including those in North Sydney and Glace Bay, with simultaneous construction of numerous small railroads connecting the collieries with the shipping ports.
The Nova Scotia government recognized the need for an outlet in Louisbourg which would link the various railroads around Sydney with Louisbourg's harbour and permit the shipment of coal at any time during the year. The first attempt in 1873 was a poorly-built narrow gauge line which failed to meet the needs of the coal companies. Few trains ever made the run to Louisbourg over the road, and in 1883 a forest fire destroyed a major portion of the roadbed.
In 1891 H. M. Whitney came to Cape Breton to establish the steel industry. The resulting Dominion Coal Company, later the Dominion Coal and Steel Company, consolidated ownership of both the numerous local coal mines and the railroads which served them. Construction was begun on a railroad to connect the collieries with Louisbourg, and upon its completion in 1895 the Sydney & Louisburg Railway was one of the most modern lines in Canada.
The volume of freight hauled by the S&L rose sharply during its early years. By the 1950's the S&L had 31 steam locomotives operating over 116 miles of track, 39 miles of which was main line. The railroad employed 400 men - hauled 4,000,000 tons of freight annually - chiefly coal, and more per mile than any other railroad in Canada. The number of passengers on the S & L, mainly employees of the mines going to and from work, reached a peak of 176,000 in 1913. The coming of automobiles reduced this traffic until passenger trains were eliminated after World War II, although mixed trains continued to run daily, except weekends.
The S&L was a neighbourly and unpretentious railroad, and it operated on a personal basis that meant a lot to the people it served. The railroad ran picnic excursions and "blueberry specials" that would stop anywhere to let passengers off, and pick them up in the evening. It took little for a hunter or vacationer to flag a train and get on, and the crews always took a lively interest in the latest news along the line. Many times, often in foul weather and blizzards, the S & L sent out a locomotive and car to take a doctor somewhere, or bring someone into hospital. There may have been more pranks and practical jokes played by S & L men than on any other line in the country, but they were tough and competent railroaders - in the early days, before air brakes, they spent many runs climbing over the icy tops of coal hoppers to brake the trains - and they moved an enormous amount of coal.
During both World Wars the ports of Sydney and Louisbourg were staging areas for Atlantic convoys and the S & L was a vital link in the supply of fuel and steel manufacture. Until the advent of regular air service to Newfoundland both ports were a terminus for rail and passenger traffic between Newfoundland and the rest of Canada.
Due to the availability of coal for fuel, the first diesel engine was not placed in service on the S & L until 1961, and the last steam locomotive was not retired until 1966. The demise of the railroad soon after resulted from the crises affecting Cape Breton's coal industry in the 1960's. The loss of industrial markets meant less coal shipped from Cape Breton and less for the rail link to Louisbourg.
"There is a land of pure delight Where hand-fired steam still reigns, Where mighty Mikes roar day and night, And Moguls haul mixed trains."
In 1960 this poem introduced an article in Railroad Magazine, urging railfans to visit the Sydney & Louisburg Railway, the last all-steam Class 1 railroad in North America, before the romance of steam gave way to the efficiency of diesel power.
Anyway I must run Later All
G'day Gents!
Here's a few more fotos from our Branson trip that some may find of interest . . .
Sitting at the end of the line
Frisco caboose from better times
Branson Depot
BSRX 98, Locomotive, 1951 EMD F9PH, rebuilt 1981, has HEP
(Formerly B&O, then MARC #83)
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<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>
Tuesday at the Saloon by the Siding ‘n time to order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast. While you're at it, check out the pastries in The Mentor Village Bakery case ‘n grab a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee too!
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Monday - Nov 26th:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:17 AM: Our most dependable regular continues to hold up the AM slot with another fine offering on this gloomy Monday in mid-continent USA. Glad to see ya, Mate!
Lars, your beating your head against a stone wall, Mate. As long as we have guys who continue to acknowledge those who don't acknowledge, this crap will continue . . . Mea culpa on my part, for as Proprietor, I feel it is incumbent on my part to say "something" to each visitor frequenting the bar. But even that gets "old" in a hurry with those who simply will not join the conversations . . .
Thanx for the B&O covers from the weekend ‘n into Monday! Nice choice . . .
Only ONE Rockette Hmmmmm, must be slowing down. <grin>
Round, visit ‘n support most appreciated!
Pete (pwolfe) at 1:32 PM ‘n 6:43 PM: Two visits from our Bar Chandler ‘n both most welcome at that! Things are predictably slow these days ‘n expected to remain that way as our "irregular regulars" continue to find other things to do.
If using the Consumer Price Index (CPI) for 2006, the value of $75 in the 1930s would be $905.39. Check out this URL . . .
http://www.measuringworth.com/calculators/uscompare/
That's quite a jump in value of that Lionel Hudson, eh Ask ‘n ye shall receive!
Speaking of "Red for Danger," wonderin' how CM3 Shane is doing with it. Next on the RR Book Relay 2007 is Eric . . .
And here's a <dated> link discussing the freight route between St. Louis ‘n Springfield, MO:
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,666094,nodelay=1
Two mighty fine inclusive, informative ‘n interesting Posts from Wolfman Pete! Glad you're back . . . And oh yeah, rounds appreciated too!
Allan (Gunneral) at 8:05 AM: New Zealand arrived! Always a pleasure to see ya t the bar, Mate - ‘n the Tuis go down really well . . .
Yeah, having the opportunity to see Andy Williams "made" that short getaway well worth the 8 hour round trip on the highway. The guy is a "treasure" in his entertainment element . . . I used to really enjoy it when his brothers would join in at Christmastime . . . those were good times.
Many thanx for the inclusive ‘n informative Post! Round too . . .
Mike (wanswheel) at 9:43 AM: Back for more, eh This time with two personal URLs from our Resident MeisterMonsterMike.
Thanx for the Railroad Magazine info . . . As you probably have seen, I've been running ‘em on my "Nickel's Worth" submissions (Pages 117, 123 'n 135) from time to time . . . good stuff.
Tuesday - Nov 27th:
Trainmaster.Curt (Curt) at 12:50 AM: Great to see a visitor on board from Canada - for those of you who don't know - Transcona is in Manitoba (near Winnipeg). Nice to see someone who knows how to use the profile page! So many don't ‘n we're not into the "anon" crap ‘round this place.
Recommend you check us out by reviewing Page One of this Thread - the way we do things is explained there . . . then by going through at least 5 of our final Pages you'll quickly get the dr
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Great to see you guys, always is.
1940 on the previous, this one 1952. I call it Elmer Gantry
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=566492
My father brought home both Trains and Railroad magazine every month, and The Saturday Evening Post every Tuesday. Which reminds me, there was a Mad magazine spoof, The Saturday Evening Pest featuring an article "This Isn't Exactly What I Had In Mind" by Benjamin Franklin.
Speaking of Dad, who worked very hard to persuade Amtrak to restore the Montrealer, here's a 1975 pic of his train at St. Albans.
http://www.railpictures.net/images/a/ATK_432.JPG.15874.jpg
Page about David P. Morgan
http://rlhs.org/rrhistry/rrh188/jacklin.html
Mike
Hi Tom and all,
The usual round of Tui`s for the crew please Leon!
Tom. Nice write up and pics of your Branson trip, looks as if you had a great time on the rails there, and also seeing all those shows, used to watch the Andy Williams TV show a lot way back when, he had a very easy laid back style. Nice write up and more info on the Canadian RR`s
Dan. Nice to see you back on board. That show at Manors station was the last time that particular coaching stock was on public display in their original colours, during the war they had been stored in various places, such as, Doncaster, York and some way up in Scotland as well. That Black and Tan name derived from the uniform the RUC wore at that time, they had either RIC dark green, or UK police dark blue jackets and UK army khaki trousers, and tan Sam Brown belts as well, Ron will be interested in that info too. Hope TVNZ get that doco on the St Pancras restoration soon, can`t see many Brits using that Champagne bar at all though, if it was a decent beer it would be different!
Ron. Yes the "Mozzie", as it was nicknamed, was an awesome plane, it was called the "Whispering death" by the German troops as they could`nt hear it coming, it was also used as a fighter/bomber, some were fitted with 40mm Bofors guns. In the late 50`s and early 60`s we had them in Germany as target drogue tugs because of their top speed, they were operated by civilian contractors to the RAF, all ex RAF WW2 pilots of course.
Eric. Did you spot my deliberate mistake, that photo of Tom on the streetcar I attributed to you was one of Pete`s after all, hope I do`nt get "Tweeted"! Enjoyed all your posts and pics, thanks!
Jan. A real nice selection of B&O and N&W loco`s mate, they enlarged really well!
Lars. A really top notch selection of B&O bookcovers on your posts Lars, together with all your write ups as well, much appreciated, popped over to the other thread a few times as well to have a nosey! See the Patriots got a fright last game?
Rob. Enjoyed all your trolley and steam pics and info.
Mike. Nice to see you again, nice write up on the FEC RR loco`s, interesting reading, David P. Morgan was a great editor of Trains magazine.!
Pete. Welcome back mate. Sure wish I still had those missing Ian Allen spotters books, I had all the A4`s noted several times! In our area of Wallsend we had several bus companies, Tynemouth and Wakefield`s Traction [owned by Northern eventually], Tyneside Omnibus Co. [used to be a Tram Co], United Automobile Services, and Newcastle Corporation buses and trolleybuses[the six wheelers] you could get a bus every five minutes at peak times, this was because of all the shipbuilding and heavy engineering industry in the area. The Tyneside electric train service ran very frequently as well, of course in those days only the well to do could afford a car. Enjoyed all the info and pics on all your posts.
See ya, Allan
Hi Tom and all Part2
A pint of Bathams please RUTH, now I have caught up.
TOM Many thanks for the description and those great photos of the locomotives and cars on your trip on the Branson Scenic Railway. The link to their site was very interesting with a history of the area and of the railroad, I see it was a MOPAC line once, that is one of the best sites I have seen so far in its description of the equipment. Loved the name of the newspaper from Lucia, ‘The Locomotive'.
Two great films back by popular demand, the Titfield Thunderbolt is a film I never tire of watching and Danger Lights another good railroad film and the Stooges sounds a classic, so another good week at the Emporium.
That is interesting about B&O # 50 I see in the link it lost its ‘Shovelnose' after WWII.
I see November was a busy month in Canadian Railroad history. I guess a lot of the line openings were scheduled before the winter months set in.
It seems the Prince of Wales in 1919 used to enjoy driving steam locomotives. The 1925 world record by the CN diesel electric car No 15280 seems not to have the attention it deserved as I can only recall reading about it at the bar.
RON I wished I had seen that program on the History Channel on the big steamers; hopefully they will show it again soon.
Many thanks for the words to ‘Transport of Delight' I was singing along to it, it is funny how some tunes never leave you, although it is many years since I last heard that song.
I don't think I will try that Vietnamese dish.
Enjoying the talk between Tom and yourself on the Lionel Trains.
JAN Glad your Steel Steam and Stars book arrived and it was as good as hoped it would be.
Many thanks for the B&O photos. #50 looks an interesting locomotive and # 5600 looks in wonderful condition for the New York World's Fair. It would be interesting to hear a bit more about the Lima Ohio Soapbox champions.
Good N&W photos the 2-8-8-2s seem to show power and the 4-8-4s speed to me.
As you say some them C&O locomotives are in showroom condition, it must have taken a lot of time by the loco cleaners to get a locomotive in that condition.
Thanks for sharing.
LARS Great B&O video and bookcovers, truly a historic railroad. The color scheme suited the F units. I bet that B&O in the Civil War is an interesting book.
Sorry about the ‘Jints' the bride was not too happy about the Chiefs yesterday, but what about England not qualifying for the European Championships, there goes my excuse not to do Honey-Dos next summer.
As you say this year as seemed to have flown by it is hard to believe it is December at the end of this week.
Does RUTH know about the Radio City Rockettes.
ROB Many thanks for those great photos of the Works Equipment at the museum. To think Flat Motor W4 is over 100 years old now, I guess some parts of W4 is older than that.
MIKE Thanks for that very entertaining article by David P Morgan on the Florida 4-8-2s as the diesels were taking over their duties. I wonder in what year Trains first came out I think they were fortunate to have Mr. Morgan as editor.
I have loaded some photos from Alan but my e-mail is playing up and I cannot get to his notes
Hi Tom and all. Part 1
Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. A pint please RUTH for all the great posts while I have been away. I have reached page 144 on my catch up and have been writing as I go. I noticed my post is getting a bit long so I will post this and read to get up to date.
ALLAN The two LNER Ian Allan books were re-prints. Unfortunately I too lost my early spotting books and in the earliest of my original books from late 1963 I do not seem to have copied all the Eastern Region engines I saw from the previous books although I did not see too many ex LNER locos but I do recall seeing LNER types on the Great Central which passed through my home town including V2s which I have none marked in my combine volume. How I wish I could have a look again at my old books.
It was interesting to hear that you remembered the Midland Red buses. There was a time when each region of Britain seemed to have it own bus company with its own identity, now, I think, it is mainly a few big companies. I guess it would be Northern buses in Newcastle. I recall the Midland Red had a "Day Anywhere" ticket and for under 14s it was 5 shillings (about 50 cents today) to travel all over the Midlands on their buses, this would be in the early 1960s.Happy days.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and thanks for the kind words.
ERIC Thanks for the info on the Globe rail line.
Yes the model layout in the main entrance of the Union Station in Kansas City is taken down after Christmas. There are a couple of layouts that are in the station on a permanent basis, one is a HO scale and another is, I believe an N gauge in the railroad museum there. Many thanks for the photos
JAN Hope you are able to shake off that cold soon.
LARS I agree it is great to see the ‘Christmas Train back in the bar.
DL. Thanks for the link to ‘The Wind That Shakes The Barley' I have not seen the film but looking at the trailer I think I would like to see it. Do you remember a film called ‘Ryan's Daughter' I believe that was set at the same time in Ireland.
As you say we think on similar lines, I thought exactly the same as you on the ‘Champagne Bar' I suppose you can only get a half pint of beer in there and I would hate to think of the price. Back in the 1970s when, like today, real ale seems under threat BR started to serve real ale in certain of their station buffets, they even produced a leaflet telling what ales were on sale in the different buffets. St Pancras was one of those although this did not last long I thought it was a great idea.
I had a friend at work who had been on a steam hauled special train many years ago and had sat opposite to C. Hamilton Ellis on the trip and had a good talk with him. I wish I had been there as his knowledge of railways was immense.
As you say ‘Red For Danger must have been a very difficult book to write, it would be interesting to know how many editions of the book there as been.
Many thanks for the link to that excellent ‘Rails around Birmingham' site, good photos and that is a great map showing the old lines and stations in the area. The readers gallery has some rare shots in I will e-mail the site to Alan, he will be particularly interested in the photos of the Olbury branch as he has seen very little photos of the branch. Many Thanks for sharing.
ROB Great to see you in the bar. The trip to Ottawa must be a very poignant occasion at the Remembrance Day services, an occasion that would never be forgotton.
TOM Loved the Thanksgiving graphics
Enjoyed your encore of DOUG's post on the Lionel 700E
Ruth my deAH, the long holiday weekend has come to an end and it's business as usual here at the Tavern by the Tracks. You're presence behind the bar is all I need to know that life is good ‘round here! <blush> A mugga Joe with a "BK splash," and a number three from the menu board if you please. A round for the boyz when they trickle in, treats for the crittAHs ‘n of course that small jar of PPF for Boris, once he feeds the gang! <grin>
Jints LOST a game they shudda ‘n cudda won. Woe is me, Jints LOST! <groan>
I'm having a difficult time with the time of year as it's amazing that we're nearly into December. WHERE have these weeks ‘n months gone <geesh ‘n golly gosh!> Unbelievable! Seems like only the other day that we returned from our first "wintering" down in the Keys . . . <double geesh> And now, Santa is beckoning once again! Fortunately for me, the Mrs. takes care of all of "that," I've nevAH been one to spend a lot of time looking for gifts. Our grandchildren could've opened their own toy store at a point in their lives. Now it's electronics and the costs are staggering. What evAH happened to the simple life with simple gifts
The Mrs. asked me what I wanted for Christmas ‘n I told her one of the Radio City Rockettes would do just fine. She looked at me with <utter disdain> and replied, if you're up to it let me know - I'll get the video camera ready. . . . then call for a defibulator! <ommmmmmigosh> Appears her "meds" are working fine! <grin>
An osbservation from the Manager: I'm seeing more of this unwillingness to acknowledge the other guys efforts 'round here. We've pretty much always had one guy who was like this, now it seems to be spreading. So c'mon guyz, this is supposed to be an interactive place - not a hit 'n run joint. There are many other threads out there to drop 'n go . . . not here. I'm not necessarily speaking of myself - but it does tend to get "old" when day after day a few of us provide the material and it simply goes unacknowledged by those who are supposed to be our customers. Don't get it . . . just don't get it AND don't want it. So if you want me to respond to YOU - then damn it - respond to those of us providing the lion's share of "stuff" 'round here . . .
Enough rambling, I best get to my daily drop of covAHs from the Larsman Mobile for the gang!
Along the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad: From Cumberland to Uniontown
Impossible Challenge II: Baltimore to Washington and Harpers Ferry from 1828 to 1994
Cabooses of the B&O
East End - B&O's "Neck of the Bottle"- Harpers Ferry to Cumberland - 1842-1992
West End - Cumberland to Grafton - 1848-1991
Sand Patch - Clash of Titans - Cumberland to Connellsville and branches - 1837-1993
Congrats to the Saskatchewan Roughriders for winning the 95th CFL Grey Cup by beating the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, 23-19 in the championship game played in Toronto!
Time for our monthly feature - Significant Events in Canadian RR History . . .
Significant events in Canadian RR History
during the month of November
<A form of this was initially Posted on 27 Nov 2006, Page 436 of the Original Thread>
Caveat: Much of the information appearing was gathered from internet sources, with credit to "Colin Churcher's Railway Pages" at http://www.railways.incanada.net/
* 1853, November 10th - The Great Western Railway opens its main line between Hamilton to the Suspension Bridge at Niagara Falls. The Great Western went on to build, lease or buy other railways throughout Southern Ontario, and it can be claimed to be the first Canadian system. Other sections opened as indicated:
- 1853, December 31 - Hamilton to London. - 1854, January 27 - London to Windsor. - 1854, August 21 - Galt branch.
* 1855, November 17th - The Grand Trunk Railway opens its broad gauge line from Montreal to Brockville.
* 1856, November 1st - 2nd - The opening of the Grand Trunk Railway is celebrated in Montreal:
- 9 a.m. - general procession through the city. - 2 p.m. - banquet in the large building belonging to the company at Point St. Charles. - 8 p.m. - torchlight procession and fireworks. 9 a.m. (next day) - steam boat excursion to Victoria bridge; inauguration of the new city waterworks. - 2 p.m. - grand military review. - in the evening - grand illumination and ball at the Bonsecours Hall.
* 1872, November - The Grand trunk line between Sarnia and Buffalo via Stratford and London as well as the St. Mary's branch is changed from 5' 6" to standard gauge. The actual work was done in 18 hours.
* 1883, November 18th - railways adopt a standardized system of keeping time that uses hour-wide time zones.
* 1884, November 1st - The Harbour Grace Railway, the first railway on Newfoundland, is opened for traffic between St. Johns and Harbour Grace. The last spike was driven by Prince George, later to become King George V, who was at the time visiting Newfoundland as a midshipman aboard H.M.S. Cumberland.
* 1885, November 1st - First train service established over CP between Montreal and Winnipeg via Ottawa, Sudbury and the Lakehead.
* 1885, November 7th - The last spike is driven in the first Canadian transcontinental main line at Craigellachie B.C. in the Eagle Pass. Van Horne makes his famous fifteen-word speech "All I can say is that the work has been well done in every way".
* 1885, November 8th - The CP special train arrives in Port Moody at Pacific Tidewater, the first railway train ever to travel across Canada from sea to sea.
* 1887, November 2nd - the Canada Atlantic Railway commences using the first passenger cars in Canada to be fitted with electric light.
* 1887, November 10th - Canada Atlantic Railway commences heating passenger cars by steam from the locomotive thus eliminating the danger of fire from stoves. This is the first such use in Canada. The railway completed the conversion of its entire passenger fleet in October 1891 thus becoming the first railway in Canada to use steam exclusively to heat its passenger rolling stock
* 1905, November 24th - The Canadian Northern completes track laying into Edmonton. The last spike, a silver one, was driven by the Lieutenant-Governor of Alberta.
* 1908, November 12th - A formal inspection and opening ceremony took place for electric operation through the St. Clair Tunnel between Sarnia and Port Huron. This ended steam operation which had asphyxiated several crew members.
* 1909, November 3rd - Canadian Pacific officially opens the viaduct on the Crows Nest Pass Line at Lethbridge, 5,327 feet long and with a maximum height of 314 feet above Oldman River. This is the highest railway bridge in Canada.
* 1918, November 20th - By order in Council P.C. 2854 the management of the Canadian Government Railways is entrusted to the Board of Directors of the Canadian Northern Railway Co. On the same day the Government takes over the Canadian Northern Railway and appoints a new Board of Directors.
* 1919, November 2nd - A Canadian Pacific special train conveys the Prince of Wales returns to Montreal from Toronto. Locomotives 2225 and 2231 were used. The Prince ran the locomotive from Fla
A smile to begin the week!
A nickel ain't worth a dime anymore.
<A Yogi-ism!>
Monday once again at the Watering Hole by the Wayside ‘n time for breakfast! Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh, so let's get orderin' . . .
Saturday - Nov 24th:
Jan (JanOlov) at 9:09 AM: Our Swede residing in Scotland dropped off a bunch of steamers - bought a round ‘n told us about his new book! All helped to keep Saturday rolling along.
Noted that the shot of #50 is quite different from the B&O #50 at the Stl Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood> that we saw during Rendezvous II. Check it out . . .
B&O #50 EMC (built 1935) - First non-articulated passenger diesel. 1,800 hp, two Winton Model 201-A diesel engines.
#50 depicted in your foto is a "shovelnose" - wonder when they changed it Anyway, an interesting comparison, dontchathink
Good foto of the "shovel nose" on this URL . . . scroll down to view:
http://home.att.net/~berliner-Ultrasonics/boxcbo50.html
Lars (LoveDomes) at 11:09 AM: Great to see the Manager providing some material in the form of book ‘n video covers for the gang!
Interesting observation you made - I noticed it as well. Some of our guys just aren't fully "into" this joint <yet>. No problem - as long as they don't forget us entirely - guess that's what we should be hopeful of.
Visiting the other Theads is no major problem UNLESS of course ignoring "Our" Place goes along with it. That definitely IS a <tweetable> offense - Rule #29 I believe! <grin> Let's see if there's any <contrition> from the "offender" . . .
Eric (EricX2000) at 12:30 PM: Having Forums or ‘puter problems Hope things settle down for you. Anyway, thanx for taking the time ‘n making the effort to think about this joint on Saturday - during the daylite!
Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:04 PM & 9:14 PM: Two visits from our Resident Ontario Connection on a traditionally slow Saturday.
Most interesting spate of traction from the man who "knows" about ‘em!
While your leaves are frozen to the ground, ours are just about "out" as I spent another couple of hours picking up <hopefully> the last of the bunch for this season. We have over 30 deciduous trees on our property - say no more, eh <groan> Temps ‘round here are trying to get lower, but we're mired in the lo 40s (F) with light drizzle today. Kinda <yucky> - good day to remain indoors ‘n catch some <fooooooball> on the tube!
Concur with your comments about the "Fs" - when stacked up against the locos of today, there's just no "charm" to the modern diesels. Design went by the boards some time ago, methinks. <barf>
Sunday - Nov 25th:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:51 AM: We&
Evening Gents. i guess I'll just grab a joe as well while I digest today's happenings, fairly busy ones for the closed Sunday.
Lars-Yup, I don't know much more than names when it comes to the NFL, never got into it.We did have season's tickets for the Tigercats for a few years, now I just catch a game or two live and rely on the tube for the rest. I caught some of the Grey Cup game today missed most of the first half due to work It was a good game what I saw of it, fairly low scoring by run n gun CFL standards 23-19 for the Green Riders of Sask.
Nice to see a couple of more books from you on a Sunday !I noticed that teh late great Passengerfan was out and about today , just not here
Silent Mike-Nice to see you out this day , I'll save the reading for tomorrow when the beer and pretzels have worn off.
Jan-Some nice steam in two installments to wind out the day as well thanks
Here's a couple more random museum shots while I wind down tonight.
A fall shot with 2786 doing it's thing.
rail grinder W28 waiting between runs
enjoy Rob
Salutations Tom and fellow brethren......
Just passing by to toss a few more pics to enjoy with the Monday morning coffee. Some spit and polish that C&O had on some of their engines...WOW!
C&O #4-6-2 490 seen here with train #6, Fast Flying Virginian, leaving Cincinnati, Ohio, August 8, 1933.
C&O 2-10-4 #3025 with a freight consisting of 128 cars, in the vicinity of Chillicothe, Ohio, August 16, 1933.
C&O 2-6-6-6 #1629 here with an eastbound freight with only 48 cars, east of Montgomery [i.e. Mount Carbon], W. Va., June 26, 1951.
C&O 4-6-2 #475 resting here with train #2, The George Washington, at the Cincinnati, Ohio station, July 21, 1940.
C&O 4-6-4 #314 and #2-8-4 2729 doubleheading on train #104, East of Huntington, W. Va., June 26, 1951.
C&O 4-8-2 #543 in Washingron D.C., August 3, 1939.
Credit: all above Otto Perry & photoswest...
Slid through the mail slot, an 1857 B&O pic and an article by the future editor of Trains.
http://mdhsimage.mdhs.org/Library/Images/Mellon%20Images/Z24access/z24-00485.jpg
Flagler System Motive Power by David P. Morgan (Railroad Magazine, January 1948)
If you're tired of cold weather and freight hogs decorated with Coffin feedwater heaters, domes built to carry sand for a Mallet and not a 2-8-4, and Pennsy banshee whistles, then pack your grip and climb aboard the Florida Special to the land of waving palms and eternal sunshine. Not only that, brother, you'll be in the home country of some of the finest 4-8-2s that American Locomotive ever assembled. Big jobs, with graceful boilers on 73-inch drivers, Worthington feedwater heaters, and long, trim 12-wheel tanks. All this plus a guarantee of no soot, no cinders.
The Line? Florida East Coast. The prime mover? 400-series Mountains. Together, they're the perfect cure for all the railfan's winter season blues. For there is no greater sight in railroading than one of these handsome dual-service Alcos wheeling a fruit block north along FEC's double-tracked speedway at sixty-five per, under an impressive exhaust of oil smoke and shattering sound. Wet, sticky snow may spoil your chances of capturing a Pere Marquette Mike on film in the yards at Grand Rapids, but that won't prevent you from getting a clear print of a husky Flagler 0-8-0, shuffling cars in the sun-drenched garden at New Smyrna Beach. Diesels? Yes, FEC has a bountiful supply of them. But in the winter season you'll find plenty of varnish trade still geared to the flashing rods of reciprocating steam power. And Electro-Motive hasn't yet captured the freight traffic.
If you have the pioneer urge to be another Jim Hill (or should one say, another Henry M. Flagler?), you might be able to ride the hack of a way freight over the road's brand new 29-mile cuttoff, connecting Ft. Pierce with the shores of inland Lake Okeechobee.
Everyone is familiar with the system's bold fight to send its line across the ocean to Key West, a plan executed only after a terrific expenditure in lives and cash. Still surprisingly few know much about an equally fascinating branch of FEC lore, its motive power. The supreme and amusing fact about the Flagler System prime movers is that of the existing engines, built originally for FEC, most are now working for somebody else. You'll find them thundering up through the Feather River Canyon out on the Western Pacific and rolling passenger traffic on the West Point Route. Still others are turning in mileage for the Cotton Belt, and can be seen easing into the Union Station in Dallas with the Morning Star. Across in Georgia, FEC Pacifics are to be found working freight and passenger traffic over the iron of such lines as the Atlantic & St. Andrews Bay, Georgia & Florida, and what was once the independent AB&C--now the Coast Line's Western Division.
Travel down into Old Mexico, and you can focus your Graflex on FEC hogs now working for the National Railways. Fourteen 400-series 4-8-2s went to the NdeM in 1945 alone. Replaced by Diesels in the United States, they're doing much to revamp Mexico's rail network.
Naturally, the Flagler System would like to be operating with a traffic level that required the use of all these engines. If the fabulous Florida boom had never exploded, such might be the case in 1948. But the magic bubble of fortune was pricked, and "The St. Augustine Route" found itself in the unhappy position of being loaded with brand-new motive power--much of it unpaid for--with only a trickle of traffic to support it. Hence, the depression years found FEC selling almost-new locomotives to a score of roads, both domestic and foreign. Introduction of Diesel power crowded more of the 4-8-2s off its books.
The road's current roster represents a well-balanced fleet of steam and Deisel power. It includes two extremely graceful old Pacifics, a single 0-6-0, fifteen Mikes, and twenty-five 0-8-0 yard goats. The popular dual-service 4-8-2 comes in three series of varying dimensions: seven of the light 300-series; seventeen of the 73-inch drivered 400s; and twenty-one of the heavy, husky 800-series.
Twenty-one 2000 horsepower Electro-Motive passenger deisels carry the FEC's tropical color scheme of red and yellow hues. They are made up to A-B-A 6000-horsepower combinations when necessary, to handle the heavier trains that run with twenty cars. When FEC first purchased Diesels, it pooled its units with the Coast Line in through Washington-Miami Champion service. This resulted in Flagler locomotives parading into the nation's Capital and ACL purple-silver power plants easing across downtown streets of Greater Miami. Now each system restricts even the Diesel's long-winded jaunts, and all power is changed during a stop at Jacksonville.
A traffic problem, more or less peculiar to the Florida East Coast, has made the road's neat timetable look more like an enlarged Blue Island folder of the Rock Island's comprehensive Windy City suburban service.
Even the schedule of the Chicago streamliner, hottest daily scheduled train over FEC's 346-mile main line, looks more like the timecard of semi-weekly CNR local. The reason for this type of service (City of Miami, Dixie Flagler and Southwind all make sixteen regular stops down the coast) is simple: each of these intermediate stations does a thriving tourist trade.
The southbound Gulf Stream usually carries racefans for Daytona, folks who want to see the greyhounds sprint at Hollywood, and perhaps a few passengers for the super-exclusive Boca Raton Hotel. To make all these stops, and still keep time, was a problem that brought the Diesels in force. In this motive power, FEC found a prime mover that could accelerate rapidly, maintain high speeds for short distances, and then make the next inevitable resort stop. Some of the Diesels are running up better than 20,000 miles a month. All are shopped at Miami's Buena Vista roundhouse.
Even though Flagler steam power is rather standardized for a road its size, the careful observer will find enough re-builds among almost any class to keep his camera busy. Numbers 819-822, for example, have been equipped with bundle-type feedwater heaters, giving them a sharp similarity to New York Central Mohawks. Another of the series, Number 803, has been equipped with Timken roller bearings on the rear delta trailer and on all tender axles. This big 4-8-2 is now known as the Holy Roller.
But you'd better hurry on down, or by the time you get here FEC may have done a vanishing act, along with the AB&C. With the St. Augustine Route now in process of reorganization, two groups are fighting for control--the connecting Coast Line, and the duPont Estate. Florida East Coast proudly advertises itself as "A Florida Industry and Institution," and the local Brotherhoods and most Floridians want to keep it just that.
Meanwhile, the Atlantic Coast Line points out that greater economy of operation would be achieved by the merger. And naturally ACL would like to enter Miami on its own rails, right along with its jazzed-up rival, Seaboard Air Line.
For the present, Florida East Coast remains one of the South's finest railroads. Its motive power is exclusively oil-burning. it operates a fleet of reclining seat, modern coaches, both streamlined and heavyweight. And it has just finished laying new 112-pound rail down its double-tracked main line, which is protected by automatic color block signals.
But head south, yourself, and view this A-1 carrier firsthand. The road that went out to sea and failed, has done pretty well on the land.
Greetings gentlemen....
Just thought that put a few pics up for Monday morning. I hope that everybody's enjoying a quiet Sunday....
N&W 2-8-8-2 #2175 with a westbound freight train of 120 cars, and putting up a good smoke effect, at Oakvale, W. Va., June 25, 1950.
N&W 2-8-8-2 #2151 here with a 117 car long westbound freight train, near Christiansburg, Va., July 10, 1953.
N&W 2-8-8-2 #2091 seen here plodding along at 40 mph with a 63 car long westbound freight train, near Elliston, Va., August 3, 1936.
N&W 4-8-4 #603 passing by with train #26, The Powhatan Arrow, near Christiansburg, Va., July 10, 1953.
N&W 4-8-4 #602 and train #4, The Pocahontas, near Bluefield, W. Va., June 25, 1950.
N&W 4-8-4 #605 seen here with train #15, The Cavalier, at Bluefield, W. Va., June 25, 1950.
Credit: Otto Perry & photoswest
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers waiting for the bar to open!
Another Sunday ‘n it's really quiet in here. But Boris ‘n the crittAHs are having "at it" as they chase one another ‘round the joint. When you come up for air, don't forget to feed ‘em then you can have that small jar of PPF I left for you behind the bar!
Thanks for the round, trolleyMAN Rob! I'll be sure to take advantage of it tomorrow, but for this CLOSED SUNDAY, I'll just help myself to a mugga Joe then I gotta get a move on.
Today is the 95th Grey Cup Canadian football pro-championship north of the bordAH. Winnipeg Blue Bombers vs Saskatchewan Roughriders. Used to watch those games all the time. Afraid I've not followed the teams for many years, so they are just "names" to me now. I guess that happens, as my guess it's pretty much the same for you ‘n the NFL teams. Anyway, there's a lot of football history up your way. Enjoy the game!
My Jints are squaring off against the Vikings at noon - so ya know where I'll be! Right in front of the tube . . . two of my boys are going to the game. I passed it up in favor of stickin' around here, which the Mrs. appreciates. <grin> Jints are definitely playing for a wildcard spot as the Cowboys seem to be in a good spot for winning the division. <arrrrgggghhhh> Let's Go Jints!
Many thanks to Da Bossman for the pix from the Branson Scenic RR . . . those domes look really <sweet>! Nothing nicer than riding in a "decent" consist of passenger cars, huh Youbetchaboots! It's a good thing that there's still an opportunity for people to experience dome car travel - the old fashioned way! I'd take the domes from back in the day anytime ovAH the superliners ‘n ultradomes of today - hands down.
Two reruns at the Emporium - don't recall having reruns before, but they were asked for ‘n why not!?!?! Good selections, especially for our Brit friends.
Some nice looking traction "stuff" from Rob! I see you're out 'n about the decks on this Sunday . . . chatting it up a bit over on the Cap'ns other thread too!
Thought I'd continue with some more B&O covAHS, then check out to get a good seat for the game!
History of the B&O Railroad
The B&O in the Civil War
B&O Passenger Service 1945-1971, Vol 2
B&O Pictorial Guide to Washington DC
B&O Steam Locomotives - The Last 30 Years - 1928-1958
(different cover than shown yesterday)
B&O Railroad
Royal Blue Line - Classic Train between Washington and New York
Steam Locomotives of the B&O RR
Well folks back with a few pictures for the gang. Here's some photo's of the museum's work equipment,just in case Ron needs more modelling material.
Flat motor W4 built by the shop forces of Toronto Railway Company in 1904
Grand River Railway railbonder M4
Married pair PCC railgrinders W30 and W31
Snow sweeper S37
Rob
Good evening Leon, I think a Keith's and a bit leftover for a round for any late stragglers.
Tom-The snow wasn't too bad it amounted to some frosting on the leaves that finally decided to fall off the tree's in the yardworst thing tha happened is that said leaves are now firmly cemented to the ground by the frost 'n' ice.
liked the nice pictuires from your Branson trip, doesn't seem to be too bad an operation. Nice to see a functioning F , truly the train locomotive of the last century.
Thankfully nio more "high octane" toys have been discovered. Still best to tell Boris not to lick the Lionel set just in case.
Lars-I'd never completely abandone you guys again. this time of year however, I will tend to be a bit scarce ( hazzard of the biz unfortunatly ) Loved the B&O book covers. Allow me to pick up a high octane beverage of your choice the next time you're in
Jan-Some nice steamers thnaks for shareing.
Ron-If you decide to make , a model of 45 let me know. I may be able to get a copy of some drawings for you depending on what you need.
Was waffling with regard to putting these fotos up today . . . slow day, but in deference to our regulars who have been as solid as a rock when it comes to supporting the bar - here's some Branson Scenic Railway fotos!
BSRX 99, Locomotive, 1962 EMD GP30M, rebuilt 1982 (Formerly C&O, #4625)
Budd consist
PPCX 800603, "Silver Eagle", 1949 Budd 60 Seat Coach (Formerly the Eagle from the Texas Pacific Railroad)
BSRX 9540, "Silver Island", 1947 Budd Dome Lounge (From CB&Q, Twin-City Zephyr)
PPCX 800287, "Silver Garden", 1952 Budd Dome Lounge Coach (From CB&Q, Kansas City Zephyr)
BSRX 9320, "Silver Terrace", 1952 Budd Dome Observation (From CB&Q, Kansas City Zephyr)
Branson Scenic Railway
BSRX 98, Locomotive, 1951 EMD F9PH, rebuilt 1981, has HEP (Formerly B&O, then MARC #83)
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!
. . . November 25th thru December 1st: The Titfield Thunderbolt (1953) Starring: Stanley Holloway, Naunton Wayne, John Gregson & Sidney James - and - Danger Lights (1930) Starring Louis Wolheim, Robert Armstrong & Jean Arthur. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Dizzy Pilots (1943).
<Both features are back by popular demand. Titfield Thunderbolt was shown on Feb 5th thru 11th, 2006 & Danger Lights appeared on Jan 22nd, 2006>
The Titfield Thunderbolt (1953)
PLOT SUMMARY: The residents of a small English village are about to lose their ancient railroad. They decide to rescue it by running it themselves, in competition with the local bus company. Written by Blair Stannard When British Railways announce the closure of the Titfield to Mallingford branch line a group of local residents make a bid to run it themselves, backed by a monied member of the community who is attracted by the complete lack of licensing hours on trains. Unfortunately the local bus company starts to use methods that can hardly be seen as fair competition, to the extent that the whole project is threatened. Written by Jeremy Perkins
The residents of a small English village are about to lose their ancient railroad. They decide to rescue it by running it themselves, in competition with the local bus company. Written by Blair Stannard When British Railways announce the closure of the Titfield to Mallingford branch line a group of local residents make a bid to run it themselves, backed by a monied member of the community who is attracted by the complete lack of licensing hours on trains. Unfortunately the local bus company starts to use methods that can hardly be seen as fair competition, to the extent that the whole project is threatened. Written by Jeremy Perkins
When British Railways announce the closure of the Titfield to Mallingford branch line a group of local residents make a bid to run it themselves, backed by a monied member of the community who is attracted by the complete lack of licensing hours on trains. Unfortunately the local bus company starts to use methods that can hardly be seen as fair competition, to the extent that the whole project is threatened. Written by Jeremy Perkins
Danger Lights (1930)
PLOT SUMMARY: Louis Wolheim plays the boss of the railroad yard in Miles City, Montana. The film opens with a landslide across the tracks in Montana, and a repair crew is dispatched to clear the tracks. Several hobos are lounging nearby and are put to work helping the repair crew. One of the hobos, played by Robert Armstrong, is discovered to have been a former railroad engineer who lost his job due to insubordination. He is given a new job for the railroad in Miles City by the yard boss, but quickly falls in love with the boss's fiancée, played by Jean Arthur.Jealousy grows between the two over the affections of Arthur with both of them attempting to win her in marriage. Things come to a head during a fight in the railroad yard between the two, during which Wolheim is hit by a train and injured. To save his life, Armstrong must transport him in record time to Chicago for surgery.
Louis Wolheim plays the boss of the railroad yard in Miles City, Montana. The film opens with a landslide across the tracks in Montana, and a repair crew is dispatched to clear the tracks. Several hobos are lounging nearby and are put to work helping the repair crew. One of the hobos, played by Robert Armstrong, is discovered to have been a former railroad engineer who lost his job due to insubordination. He is given a new job for the railroad in Miles City by the yard boss, but quickly falls in love with the boss's fiancée, played by Jean Arthur.Jealousy grows between the two over the affections of Arthur with both of them attempting to win her in marriage. Things come to a head during a fight in the railroad yard between the two, during which Wolheim is hit by a train and injured. To save his life, Armstrong must transport him in record time to Chicago for surgery.
Jealousy grows between the two over the affections of Arthur with both of them attempting to win her in marriage. Things come to a head during a fight in the railroad yard between the two, during which Wolheim is hit by a train and injured. To save his life, Armstrong must transport him in record time to Chicago for surgery.
SHORT: Dizzy Pilots (1943)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges are the Wrong Brothers, working on their revolutionary airplane "The Buzzard," which they hope to sell to the Army & thus avoid the draft. When the Buzzard flops, the boys go into the service & have to deal with a fiery drill sergeant.
The Stooges are the Wrong Brothers, working on their revolutionary airplane "The Buzzard," which they hope to sell to the Army & thus avoid the draft. When the Buzzard flops, the boys go into the service & have to deal with a fiery drill sergeant.
<from: threestooges.net>
Enjoy the weekend! Tom
Good afternoon Captain Toma and all present!!
Cindy, haven't seen you for a long time! A ham sandwih will be fine.
A quick stop to tell I am back on line after being off since last night. Now the service has been restored, but I have some things to take care of and will be back later this evening.
Approaching Harrisburg, Pa. 1992.
Eric
Cindy, give the boys a round on me when they trickle in ‘n keep the change!
I see we've had a visit from our Swede in Scotland - Jan - with some mighty fine steamers from the B&O. Although I've mentioned it only a few dozen times, that's a road with some family heritage - grandfather ‘n father both retired from the B&O with long careers aboard those trains.
I see Cap'n Tom kicked off the day, as usual, with a fine AM offering. My hope is that when the guys come back from their vacations that they take the time to review the pages amassed here at the bar - some good stuff for one ‘n all.
Observed that one of "ours" made an appearance on the forums this morning but DIDN'T come to the bar. Now that's a definite <tweetable offense> from Cap'n Tom. No problems with visiting other threads, but ONLY if you stop off here FIRST ‘n have a drink with perhaps some food! Shame - for shame!
Noticed the reappearance of trolleyMAN Rob - isn't this getting to be somewhat routine Disappears - reappears - disappears - reappears! Hmmmmm, well, at least the man in Ontario hasn't totally given up on us.
Nice post from our Southerner down there in the place called "Mississip" (Ron) ! I definitely remember seeing those Lionel Hudsons, but since I'm a "youngster" compared to you old farts, they were pretty much on the way to becoming vintage . . . Fine looking machines ‘n very accurate in detailing.
I've been looking ‘round ‘n decided upon some B&O covers for my Encore on this Saturday! Thanks to Jan, it's a "non-theme" theme!
B&O Odyssey, Vol 1 (video)
B&O Odyssey, Vol 2 (video)
B&O Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment
B&O Diesel Locomotives, Vol 1 - Switchers & Road Switchers
B&O in Color, Vol 1
B&O Steam in Color
B&O Steam Locomotives - The last 30 years (1928-1958)
B&O Trackside
Greetings Tom and gentlemen....
May I have something strong for this wee cold of mine....give the lads a top up with cigars while you're at it please.....don't forget the cigars...keep the change.
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....
Just got my Steam, Steel & Limiteds a few days ago, what great book! It's over 20 years old and still look like new....
Looking at those fantastic pics of heavyweight cars and their interiors, makes you wonder if the lightweight observation cars were that much better compared to their heavier sisters.... One B-I-G window, open platform with chairs....
Lightweights might have the style, but the heavies have the class....
Anyhoo, here's some B&O to look at...
B&O 2-8-8-4 #669 seen here in Fairmont, W. Va., May 1957.
B&O 4-6-2 #5207 stopped on the tracks near Akron (Summit County), Ohio. Shows a painting of a Soap Box Derby coaster car, lettering on the locomotive reads: "5207," "B&O," "Lima," "Tom Barnes locomotive courtesy of Baltimore & Ohio R.R.," "Lima, Ohio Champions, Tom Barnes and a Lima Locomotive," "to Akron," and "Soap Box Derby sponsored by Minnick Chevrolet, Inc., the Lima News, Jr. Chamber of Commerce." August 17, 1947.
B&O #50 seen here with train #2, The Abraham Lincoln consisting of 9 cars, leaving St. Louis, Mo., August 16, 1940.
B&O 4-4-4-4 #5600, the "Geo. W. Emerson" here at New York World's Fair, New York, August 5, 1939.
B&O 4-6-2 #5304, in Washington D.C., August 3, 1939.
B&O 4-4-4 #1 "Lady Baltimore", here with train #2, The Abraham Lincoln and 9 cars rolling by at 35 mph, leaving St. Louis, Mo., September 24, 1935.
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Saturday at the Bar by the Ballast ‘n time for a mugga Joe, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery along with an order for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Friday - Nov 23rd:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:27 AM: With what is continuing to be a most remarkable example of support for the bar, our Manager swung by with another bit of chat ‘n a round for the gang!
Rob (trolleyboy) at 2:55 PM: A surprise, but welcome, return <again> to the bar from our Resident Ontario Connection!
Noticed that southern ‘n eastern Ontario got hit by a winter-like storm the other day . . . hope you ‘n yours weren't too inconvenienced.
A thought: When people come into your toy store, do you have someone directing them to the "Leaded or Unleaded" sections for toys <grin>
Thanx for the visit here ‘n over on "my other Thread"!
Round appreciated too!
Ron (DD1) at 4:37 PM: Great to see the support continuing from our Resident Southern Gentleman in Ole Miss <aka: Transplanted New Yorker!>
I couldn't agree with you more regarding the points you made about Gargraves track ‘n the reliability of Lionel trains of "back in the day."
As a kid mine was Lionel electric trains. HO didn't arrive until I was into my 30s . . . All of my childhood things, including the trains, were discarded once I joined the service. Not by me - but when I returned from boot camp as "a man," all of ‘em were gone-zo. <sad>
Methinks you'd find yourself as close to railroad heaven on earth as possible if you could visit the Canadian Railway Museum up in Saint-Constant, Québec - and - the Halton County Radial Railway in Ontario. The former is an absolute "must," whereas the latter is a very well layed out exhibit of operating traction. You get the best of both worlds!
Didn't catch that documentary you mentioned, but it surely sounds like a winner to me!
In the "Small World Dept." noted the name "Moran" in a comment you made. My godfather had that name - he was from Montréal.
Appreciate the fine inclusive Post ‘n round!
Reminder: Cindy has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Good day Tom and all. Drinks are on me. Do you still have any turkey left over? Can't get enough of it. I cook turkey at least 5 times a year and turkey wings on a regular basis.
Tom: That Lionel spread was very interesting. I never knew Lionel put out kits in O72 with so much detail. Especially I found the reference to outside third rail of interest. I had always discounted Lionel as a toy not to be taken too seriously. At the time, I was into HO, so Lionel was never a consideration. I have a new healthy respect for Lionel. If you use the Gargraves phantom line track, tinplate doesn't look all that bad. One thing you got to give Lionel credit for is their reliability. My HO trains wouldn't run worth a d.... They would always stall due to dirty track. Lionel was the first train set most of us grew up with. A circle of track around the Christmas tree was always part of the decoration. I don't think anyone does that anymore. I did run a Marklin set around the tree a few years ago for the Grandkids. As I recall, they weren't overly impressed.
Another good candidate for a large scale model of the MOW car in the Halton County Radial Railway museum.
On Thursday, there was a documentary on giant steam locomotives on the History channel. It traced the development of giant steamers from the thirty's to their demise in 1970. It explained how locomotives went from 4-8-2's to 4-8-4's (larger fireboxes), the development of compound mallets like the Allegany, simple expansion compounds like the Challenger. The Union Pacific and Norfolk Western were the two companies discussed. Lima was apparently the big innovator back then. N&W took their designs and improved on them and with the USRA, developed the three engine designs that would become the standards. One of them was the "Northern", 4-8-4, but because the N&W was a Southern RR, they called it simply the "J" class.
Eric: I enjoyed the pictures of the Brill combine.
Pete: Here are the lyrics of the song.
Transport of Delight - Flanders and Swann
Some people like a motorbike, Some say a tram for me, Or for bonny Annie Laurie By the lay them down a dee. Such means of locomotion seem rather dull to us, The driver and conductor of a London omnibus.
Hold very tight please! Ting-ting! Hold very tight please! Ting-ting!
When you are lost in London And you don't know where you are You'll hear my voice a-calling "Pass further down the car!" And very soon you'll find yourself inside the terminus, In a London transport diesel-engined 97-horsepower omnibus.
Along the Queen's great Highway I drive my merry load At 20 miles-per-hour in the middle of the road. We like to drive in convoys - we're most gregarious: The big six-wheeler scarlet-painted London transport diesel-engined 97-horsepower omnibus.
Earth has not anything to show more fair Mind the stairs! Mind the stairs! Mind the stairs! Earth has not anything to show more fair Any more fares? Any more fares? Any more fares? Any more fares? Any more fares?
When cabbies try to pass me, before they overtakes, I sticks me flippin' 'and out and jams on all me brakes, Then jackal taxi drivers can only swear and cuss Behind that monarch of the road, Observer of the Highway Code, That big six-wheeler scarlet-painted London transport diesel-engined 97-horsepower omnibus.
I stops when I'm requested although it spoils the rides So he can shout "Gert out of it, we're full right up inside!" We don't ask much for wages, we only want fair shares So cut down all the stages and stick up all the fares. If tickets cost a pound a piece Why should you make a fuss? It's worth it just to ride inside That 30-foot-long by 10-foot-wide Inside that monarch of the road, Observer of the Highway Code, That big six-wheeler scarlet-painted London transport diesel-engined 97-horsepower, 97-horsepower omnibus.
Hold very tight please! Ting-ting!
It's recently been adopted as the marching song of the Underground resistance movement.
Footnotes
Annie Laurie: slang for Army lorry
Allan: Are you familiar with the "Mosquito" bomber? It was built out of wood at a time when metals were in short supply. The government didn't think a plane made of wood could compete with metal planes, but they were proven wrong. The mosquito's could fly 400 mph.
DL: How did the Ulster Constabulary fit in? I understand they were the local law when the soldiers left? Some of my roots are in England and Ireland, so I have an interest. My Grandfather was named Field. My Grandmother was a Moran. I believe he was a musician in the British Army. Not much more is known as he died when I was around two.
Tom: Much interesting information on the train at Branson. The "Westport" dates back to 1939? That must have been a blast .
All: I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving as I did with the family. Today I'm back in the kitchen cooking another turkey.
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