"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!

[siberianmo]

Now Arriving on Track #1

Patron's Pix - Number Two

Explanation: This series features fotos from the guys who have entertained us over years on the Original Thread and here at the Reborn "Our" Place . . . As long as these fotos "live" in the Ether, why not have ‘em redone right here

Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown.

The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.

Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 27 May 2005, Page 18 of the Original Thread:

#1

These are two of the three 4600 series that the museum purchased in the 90's (4600,11, and 18).  

Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 31 May 2005, Page 19 of the Original Thread:

#2 & 3

All were to have been used on the rebuilt harbour front line  but after two or three months of service the"condo yuppies) complained about the squeeling wheels on the return loops so the PCC's were retired and sold off (18 4600's had been rebuilt for this line)

#4 thru #6

SEPTA in PHILLY . . . I believe these are from 93 or 94 . . . PCC's

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Enjoy!

Tom

 

Missed the first one

#1 . . . Page 135

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Weather here is in the 50s with thunderstorms forecast for later in the day.  Gas is at $3.15 until a butterfly burps somewhere.   Fear, fear, and more fear. - It's o.k., Boris, I'm stopping there.

Lars stopped by with pictures, comments, and the bookmobile.  The third picture must be from the archives of the Mentor Engineering Scientific Survey (MESS) as it shows Second Class with its roof still intact.  Wabash books are good picks. 

Jan visited with Wabash pictures as well.  R&LHS Bulletin 133 has a book-length study/roster of Wabash power.

Eric sent comments and a most interesting collection of BNSF power of all different eras.  If you don't like one paint scheme, wait until the next unit passes by.  Kind of like it is around here; several different CSX schemes, run-through power, and leased units.  What's your choice?

Fergie visited.  One of two 4-8-4s, indeed.  These engines, IIRC, are pictured in the old Kalmbach book, Canadian Steam.   CP continued the trend of "orphan" units in the diesel age.  Our quiz today is which units on the CP roster are we talking about here?   

Pete - Wide-ranging comments.  You can find a lot of Delano color pictures at the Library of congress website.

OSP provided tons of Wabash-related material. 

I get to play, too.  The Wabash had ties to the Pittsburgh and West Virginia Ry and to the Wheeling and Lake Erie.  These ties went back to the early 1880s when Jay Gould tried to cobble together a transcontinental railway.  The centerpiece of much of this project was the Wabash Pittsburgh Terminal Ry. This and the West Side Belt (coal hauler around southern end of Pittsburgh) were operated as part of the W&LE.   N&W now NS operates over much of the former P&WV.  Two places for additional information are Maury Klein's biography of Jay Gould and a wonderful book about the P&WV titled The High and Dry - a title definitely worth tracing down if you can find a copy.  No, Artie, we'll leave the ties of the P&WV to the extension of the WM for another day.

E-mail rec'd and answered, sir.  Thanks for your patience - bring coffee and Dr. Scholl's insoles.

Will try and post tomorrow, but I don't promise much as they have me going to school for a couple of days - new computer stuff.

Work safe

[siberianmo]

<personal foto>

Wednesday's Witticism

The West is good country for men and dogs but mighty hard on women and oxen.

 

 

G'day Gents!

Had one of those <blah> days yesterday with the skies overcast, some drizzle, ‘n lots of <gloom>. Petrol rose to $2.99 (rounded) in spite of a significant drop in world oil prices. Figure that!

It's Wednesday here in mid-continent USA ‘n time for the usual bill o' fare for our morning pick-us-up! Coffee - pastries - breakfasts! So what's the delay

Appears as if I've made the 2,800th Post here at the reborn "Our" Place!

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

We've got some planned absences coming up that will make things ‘round here a bit sparse insofar as business is concerned. Happens round Thanksgiving every year - this year is no exception. So if any of you can pick up the slack for CM3 Shane - Wolfman Pete - LoveDomes Lars ‘n yours truly - it would really be a help.

Beginning THIS Friday - I'm gone-zo ‘til Wednesday of the following week. Pete departs for a loooooooooong Thanksgiving weekend on Wednesday of next week - ‘n Shane will be gone for over a week. Lars' situation is such that he's unsure of when he can resume his regular activities. Gonna be tight in the mornings ‘round here, and of course the mid-to-late afternoon "slot" will require lotsahelp!!

All we're asking is a visit with a few words ‘n perhaps a foto . . . doesn't have to be an extravaganza to participate.

 

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Tuesday - Nov 13^th, 2007:

CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:21 AM: Glad to see ya ‘n it makes for a good start to the morning ‘round here when our WVA Connection ‘n everything RR Oracle is on board!

Some diverse but relevant reference material in that Post of yours - I'll be checking into those "merchie" sources.

I believe you'll find the remake of "All Quiet . . . ." to be well done ‘n certainly worth purchasing - that is if you cannot make it to the Emporium this week. <grin>

Email received - thanx!

Appreciate the round, quarters, inclusive ‘n informative Post ‘n vist! <phew>

 

Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:22 AM ‘n 12:54 PM: Two fine Posts from our Manager! The first fit in quite nicely with this 12^th of the month day and the second very supportive of the Wabash RR "non theme"!

Appreciate the call for participation during the upcoming holiday season . . . we've always experienced some pretty slooooooooooow times between Thanskgiving ‘n New Years. Happens . . . All it takes though is a Post here ‘n there - just make the effort ‘n it keeps us at the top of the Forum's first Page. That's the goal.

Rounds - comments ‘n book covers most appreciated!

 

Jan (JanOlov) at 1:48 PM: Pretty quick thinking from our Resident Swede in Scotland to come up with some super-fine diesel ‘n steam powered trains of the Wabash RR! Appreciate the participation in our "non theme" event!

Top up ‘n generosities always appreciated!

 

Pete (pwolfe) at 5:57 PM: From the other day - I'm not aware of any operating RR in Hawaii - although I recall a plantation <pineapple, etc.> or two had their own rail set ups . . . but that was a couple of decades ago ‘n I have no specifics on ‘em.

I never heard of the British Territorial Army - but found some info on it thru this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Army

From The Railway Magaz

[Fergmiester]

Good  Morning Captain Tom and Company!

I'll have a French Vanilla latte svp oh and a low fat danish if you have one. Sorry guys I haven't been in as of late but I've been exteremely busy and trying to get a lot accomplished around the house.

Just got this for the MESS

A CPR K-1a 4-8-4 one of two built for CPR and this one is 1 of 300 built for Van Hobbies back in the late 70's

Anyway once I'm finished my course tomorrow I'll have to read up and catch up.

Later All

Fergie 

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Okay Leon, I would like my weekly Rumpsteak Café de Paris, please! An ice cold Keith's. 

183 days until our 3rd Annual Rendezvous! Time flies! A interesting topic here at the bar today, Wabash Railroad!

Tom –  I still don’t understand what happened to my pictures, just can’t find them. I posted kind of early since I wanted to post my only picture while it still was Veterans Day.

Talking about Wabash Railroad I automatically remember their most famous train, Wabash Cannon Ball. Very nice drumheads! I did not know they were headquartered in St. Louis! The Wikipedia article is most interesting!

CM3 –  I am glad Boris didn’t have to taser you! What a mess that would be!

Lars –  Good to see the Manager again! 31st Monthly Anniversary! Thanks for the reminder. I was too frustrated trying to find my pictures to remember the anniversary. The original first post is certainly a historical post!

Interesting Wabash book covers! I’ll pick the third one, Wabash Trackside!

JanOlov –  Nice Wabash pictures! The newest from 1953 and the oldest from 1934.

Pete –  No luck yet finding my photos. I am afraid they might have been dumped (I had them in an envelope) by mistake.

Interesting info on No 70048!

Thanks for the Battle of Britain link! 

I am glad the Wabash former station building is still standing. Do they plan any kind of museum inside?

Eastbound train west of Flagstaff, AZ.

 

 

Eric

 

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Back from the Dentists so nothing too cold please RUTH, an ‘English' temperature Bathams will be just right.

MIKE It was good to see you in the bar again. As Tom says a very poignant photo.

ERIC. Hope you are able to find those missing slides soon, but many thanks for the photo you were able to post.

Next year will be the 100^th anniversary of the Territorial Army in Britain. A Britannia class ‘Pacific', No 70048, was named in 1958 to commemorate the 50^th anniversary. The last Britannia to run in BR service, No 70013, is under overall and should be ready next year, the National Railway Museum is allowing the loco to be fitted with the original nameplates and numberplate off 70048 which have turned up after an appeal by Steam Railway magazine, for a short while, although it usually strict policy that NRM engines are not allowed to change identities.

CM3 I have just seen an ad for the next Classic Trains special issue, it says there are some of Jack Delano's color photos from the war years in it.

LARS Many thanks for the photos from day 1 of Our Place; I am real glad the Mentor Inn won the vote for our home especially as we know now what those Second Class saloon guys are like.

Many thanks for the Wabash bookcovers. I see the Wabash choose a light blue paint scheme for there Alcos as well.

JAN Many thanks for the Wabash photos. It is great to see St Louis and Kansas City in steam days. What a wonderful photo that is of Wabash 4-6-2 #663 at Blue Mound Ill. at sunset, a great photo if the train was standing still, but at 80MPH.

TOM. I think I am right in saying the 8F in the link No 48773 or LMS 8233 or even W.D 307, was the only 8F bought direct from British Railways, although a few others made it to Barry scrapyard in South Wales and have been preserved since. Reading that LMS special from the Railway Magazine, it said there were more 8Fs built than the class 5s, although there was just 663(against 842 class 5s) that were in LMS or BR service. Some 8Fs never returned from service overseas and there were some 8Fs lost at sea during the war.

Yes the volunteers who keep the steam locomotives working do deserve a lot of praise.

For a very short period No 48773 was certified to run on BR tracks and I was fortunate to get a ride behind her.

Many thanks for the RAF posters.

 Without those brave pilots in the Battle of Britain the world history would be a lot different today. I have a list of the different countries that had pilots in the Battle of Britain.

http://www.battleofbritain.net/bobhsoc/

Many thanks for the Wabash Railroad ‘Back in the Day' and ‘Fallen Flag' .The Wabash Cannonball song makes me wish there still was a Wabash train from St Louis to New York via Chicago.

It was sad though, reading about how much of the Wabash lines have been closed. The Wabash had some fine looking Drumheads; I think I prefer the rectangular ones best.

I have a couple of photos from the old Wabash station in Columbia MO. Showing from the street the Wabash sign above the door.

This next one is showing the Columbia name so I guess it must have faced the tracks.

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The station is now a bus terminus, the last time I was there they had some plans to renovate the building inside to more of what it looked like when it was a railroad station..I have not been past there lately, I must go and have a look. .

Well LEON,let me get a round in please..

Pete.  

[siberianmo]

Now Arriving on Track #1

Back in the Day - Number Seven

Wabash Railroad

 

 

Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. Information contained herein has not been corroborated.

 

 

Wabash Railroad

Reporting marks	WAB
Locale	Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri, and Ontario
Dates of operation	1879 - October 16, 1964
Track gauge	4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)
Headquarters	St. Louis, MO

System timetable, 1887

1886 system map

The Wabash Railroad (AAR reporting marks WAB) was a Class I railroad that operated in the mid-central United States. It served a large area, including trackage in the states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Missouri and Ontario. Its primary connections included Chicago, Illinois, Kansas City, Missouri, Detroit, Michigan, Buffalo, New York, St. Louis, Missouri, and Toledo, Ohio. The Wabash's major freight traffic advantage was the direct line from Kansas City to Detroit, without going through St. Louis or Chicago.

History

The Toledo and Illinois Railroad was chartered April 20, 1853 in Ohio to build from Toledo on Lake Erie west to the Indiana state line. The Lake Erie, Wabash and St. Louis Railroad was chartered in Indiana on

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and fellow worshippers of the classic train era....

May Have the usual extra col.....no, wait....I'll have a black Java please....too close to working hours..... Would you mind topping up the lads with whatever they're having and the usual cigar...thanks. Keep the change...

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....

Just though that I'd jump on the Wabash Limited here.... 

Wabash E-7 #1002 with additional diesel units and train #10, The City of St. Louis pulling 12 cars at 70 mph, at Thompson, Mo., July 5, 1953.

Wabash E-7 #1002 again, this time with train #24, The Bluebird consisting of 6 cars, at Mitchell, Ill., June 30, 1951.

Wabash 4-6-2 #663 seen here with a passenger train consisting of 6 cars and hitting 80 mph., near Blue Mound, Ill., June 18, 1946.

Wabash 4-6-2 #673 with #10, The Banner Blue Ltd and 7 cars, seen here leaving St. Louis., Mo., September 24, 1935.

Wabash 4-6-2 #698 seen here with train #17, The Midnight Ltd with 7 cars, at Kansas City, Mo., August 8, 1934.

Wabash 4-4-2 #622 and train #7, The Detroit Arrow; 5 cars, seen here leaving Detroit, Mich., August 8, 1939.

Credit: Otto Perry and photoswest....

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, back again with just time for a double JD on the rocks ‘n a minute or three with my favorite bar gal! <blush>

Give the boyz a round on me, ‘n keep the change my deAH! Boris, ring the ding . . .

Meant to comment on those great RAF posters put up by Cap'n Tom!

Manager's Comments: Look guys, if I can find the time to drop off a few lines, so can YOU! I know we only have a few guys who are regulars, but the others can surely say a few words, drop off a pix, or both. I've seen some "names" logged in - but no visits. C'mon - as we approach the holidays, EVERYONE who considers themselves a customer at this bar NEEDS to step up  . . . <Good Grief Charlie Brown!>

 

Noticed Da Bossman dropped off a Wabash RR Fallen Flags. I found these in my archives - so what bettAH time than now to provide a bit of support to the man who makes this place GO!

 

 

 

Direct from the Larsman Mobile to YOU!

 

Ruth, we've got some  <ahem> admin matters to attend to on your break! <ooooooh>

 

 

Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Yes, the 12th does have a "certain ring" to it! No, no - Boris, don't ring the . . . . <bong> <bong> <bwaaaaaaaong> Where did that LAST one come from Awright, Ruth - set 'em up - drinks on the house! <grin>

Excellent reminder from our Manager Lars  that a certain nostalgia has taken root 'round this joint - our "Monthiversary" <as once coined by wanswheel Mike> is upon as again. No hoopla - no particular fanfare - just recognition to and for those who made this day possible!

Been browsing the archives and came up with this "Our" Place Fallen Flag that we haven't seen for awhile . . .

 

 

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #29

<A form of this was initially Posted on Page 147, Oct 26th, 2005 on the Original Thread>

Here's another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads: 
  

Wabash Railroad

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

Wabash

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Mileage in 1950: 2,393

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 319

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 14,240
Passenger cars: 126

Principal routes in 1950:

Buffalo, NY-Detroit, MI-Fort Wayne, IN-Decatur, IL-Springfield, IL-Moberly, MO-Kansas City, MO
Chicago-Decatur-St. Louis (followed Buffalo-KC Line Bement-Decatur)
St. Louis-Moberly, MO-Des Moines, IA
Brunswick, MO-Council Bluffs, IA
Toledo, OH-Chicago
Bluffs, IL-Keokuk, IA

 

Passenger trains of note:

Banner Blue (Chicago-St. Louis)
Blue Bird Chicago-St. Louis)
City of Kansas City (St. Louis-Kansas City)
City of St. Louis (St. Louis-Denver-Cheyenne-Los Angeles)
Des Moines Limited (St. Louis-Des Moines)
Detroit Arrow (Chicago-Detroit)
Detroit Limited (St. Louis-Detroit)
Kansas City Express (St. Louis-Kansas City)
Midnight Limited (St. Louis-Kansas City)
Omaha Limited (St. Louis-Omaha)
Pacific Coast Special (St. Louis-Pacific Coast points)
Red Bird (Chicago-Detroit)
St. Louis Limited (Detroit-St. Louis)
St. Louis Limited (Des Moines & Omaha-St. Louis)
St. Louis Special (Kansas City-St. Louis)
The Midnight (Chicago-St. Louis)
"Wabash Cannon Ball" (St. Louis-Detroit)

Of note: Chicago-Detroit service by PRR between Chicago-Fort Wayne; through trains west of Kansas City handled by UP

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WABASH CANNONBALL
(unknown author & date)

From the great Atlantic ocean to the wide Pacific shore
From the green ol' Smoky mountains to the south lands by the shore She's mighty tall and handsome and she's known quite well by all
She's the regular combination on the Wabash Cannonball
Listen to the jingle, the rumble and the roar
As she glides along the woodland through the hills and by the shore
Hear the mighty rush of the engine, hear the lonesome hoboes call
You're traveling through the jungles on the Wabash Cannonball
Our eastern states are dandy, so the people always say
From New York to St. Louis with Chicago by the way
From the hills of Minnesota where the rippling waters fall
No changes can be taken on the Wabash Cannonball
Now here's to Daddy Claxton, may his name forever stand
And always be remembered through the courts throughout the land
His earthly race is over, now the curtains round him fall
He'll be carried home to Glory on the Wabash Cannonball!

. . . . . and another version!

From the great Atlantic Ocean
To the wide Pacific shore,
From sunny California
To ice-bound Labrador,
She's mighty tall and handsome,
She's known quite well by all,
She's the 'boes' accomodation
On the Wabash Cannonball
Chorus:
From the great Atlantic ocean
To the wide Pacific shore
From the green ol' Smoky mountains
To the south lands by the shore
She's mighty tall and handsome
And she's known quite well by all
She's the regular combination
On the Wabash Cannonball

Chorus:
Listen to the jingle,
The rumble and the roar,
As she glides along the woodlands,
Through hills and by the shore
Hear the mighty rush of the engine,
Hear those lonesome hoboes squawl,
While traveling through the jungle
On the Wabash Cannonball

This train, she runs to Memphis,
Mattoon, and Mexico,
She rolls through East St. Louis
And she never does it slow,
As she flies through Colorado,
She gives an awful squawl,
They tell her by her whistle
The Wabash Cannonball
Chorus:
Our eastern states are dandy,
So the people always say,

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, you are a marvelous sight this morning! <blush> Yes, a mugga Joe with a jolt will do me fine. Treats for the crittAHs, Boris - feed 'em and that small jar of PPF is YOURS! Ah yes, a round for the house 'n keep the change my deAH!

 

Thought I'd drop this off as a REMINDER that to some of us, the 12th will ALWAYS have special meaning 'round here . . .

From PAGE ONE of the OLD BAR SITE . . . back on April 12, 2005. 

The original first post: //retained just for "historical" purposes//

My interests are in railroads - real and model. Thanx to Kalmbach, we have these forums to ask questions, post responses, chat about this 'n that, and in general enjoy our hobby and interests.

So, how about joining me from time to time in "Our" Place - Where Classic Trains are the subject - those that are and some that should be.

As the "bar keep" in this place, all I ask is to keep the dialogue civil and try to stay on point - some of these threads have people popping in simply to run up their numbers - not welcome here!

C'mon in - all newcomers get a free drink on the house!  
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Which of these places would best represent "Our" Place (click to enlarge)?

Place #1

Place #2

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Tom in Chesterfield, MO, USA (Siberianmo)  

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Happy Railroading!



Siberianmo

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I'll try to get back later on . . . this week is shaping up to be a <killer>!

Until the next time!

Lars

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all Present:  coffee, please (New England Eye Opener Blend today), round for the house and $ for the jukebox.  Mist and clouds here today with temps in the 40s.   Gas holding at $3.15/gal.  I had a tough time logging in, but here I am.

Let's see what's in the electronic inbox this morning.

DD1 Visited with more skills and "forgotten arts" for the Museum.  Looks like I started something.  IMHO, it's easier to use the handsaw than to get everything out and hook up the power saw.  Thanks also for the material on the 3^rd Infantry and the Unknowns.

Jan - Jack Delano - one of my inspirations.  I remember posting a fair amount about his on the old pages.  Anyway, if you can find a copy of Iron Horse at War, get it.  "Colorado Club" is an interesting car as it represents what I call the "foreshadowing" of later car construction.  Look at the picture and you'll see what I mean; clerestory roof, hw trucks, and then the body which is "starting" to resemble later streamlined cars.  Thanks for including it in your collection.

USRA is probably best remembered for its locomotives and rolling stock.  These were standard designs that survived for many years.  The USRA returned the railroads to their rightful owners in worse shape than when they took over.  At least this was something folks bore in mind when WW2 began.

Per - Interesting pictures.

Northampton was served by the New Haven and by the Boston and Maine. 

Cy Young (real name Denton True Young 1967-1955) was from Ohio.  He pitched for Cleveland (National League - yes, Boris, they had an NL team), the Cardinals, Red Sox, Cleveland (AL) and Boston (NL).   Career record was 511-313 with - get this - a lifetime ERA of 2.63.  His best years were from 1901 to 1904 in Boston where he had a won-loss record of 210-45.  During his career he had 753 complete games, 2804 SO, and 77 ShO. 

He was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1937.  The first group to enter the Hall of Fame was in 1936.  Players selected included Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Christy Mathewson, and Walter Johnson.  The 1937 group included Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker, and Cy Young. 

Incidentally, the main line of the New Haven ran right behind the Huntington Ave. Grounds.

Pete stopped by with comments and pictures, and DL visited as well - good to hear from all.

Lars must have gotten into his vaults with some excellent Merchant Marine material.  For those who want to read more, check out Heroes in Dungarees - a Naval Institute Press book which is a good one - don't be put off by the title.  Also vols. 1 and 10 of Morsion's History of Naval Operations in  World War 2  have some good coverage as well - these two books discuss the Battle of the Atlantic.   

OSP - e-mail rec'd and responded to first thing today.  Thanks for the good set of ads from WW2.  The New Haven's series about the "Kid" is a good one as well - I'll see if I can find it on the web.  Also good travelogue material, and en excellent rerun abt. The Remembrance Train.  Last, good movies, too.  I have the first version of all Quiet of the Western Front, but have never seen the remake.   

Don't get me riled up about energy policy or lack thereof (I am a just a bit biased) - Boris would have to taser me and drag me to the rat room.

Anybody I left out - my humble apologies.

Work safe 

[siberianmo]

 

<personal foto>

 G'day Gents!

Tuesday at the Tavern by the Tracks ‘n time to fill the coffee mugs, check out The Mentor Village Pastry Case ‘n of course order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!

Had a day of rain yesterday <finally> - wound up with nearly 3/4s of an inch. We're over 6 inches down for annual rainfall. Petrol holding at $2.87 (rounded) up at Collusion Corner. And beginning to see signs of Christmas <already> ‘round these parts. With temps in the lo-70s (F) it's hard to "feel" like winter. <geesh>

Spent well over an hour talking with our Ontario Connection, Rob (trolleyboy) last night. He's fine - working, working, working - busy, busy, busy.

 

Comments from the Proprietor:

We've got some planned absences coming up that will make things ‘round here a bit sparse insofar as business is concerned. Happens round Thanksgiving every year - this year is no exception. So if any of you can pick up the slack for CM3 Shane - Wolfman Pete - LoveDomes Lars ‘n yours truly - it would really be a help.

Beginning THIS Friday - I'm gone-zo ‘til Wednesday of the following week. Pete departs for a loooooooooong Thanksgiving weekend on Wednesday of next week - ‘n Shane will be gone for over a week. Lars' situation is such that he's unsure of when he can resume his regular activities. Gonna be tight in the mornings ‘round here, and of course the mid-to-late afternoon "slot" will require lotsahelp!!

Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)

Monday - Nov 12^th, 2007:

Mike (wanswheel) at 9:26 PM: A surprise visit from the URLMeisterMonster Mike! Was wonderin' if we'd hear from you this Vet's Day - and you didn't disappoint. Most poignant foto along with some fine nostalgia from the place called Sunnyside!

Thanx for the round, fellow veteran!

Eric (EricX2000) at 10:25 PM: Sorry ‘bout the loss of those fotos, but if one had to be salvaged, I think you hit the jackpot!

Perfect Hardly - just try not to make the same mistakes twice!

Appreciate the visit - albeit somewhat EARLY for our Resident Nocturnal Desert Swede!

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Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.

Thursday is Fish ‘ Chips Nite!

Friday is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!

Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!

Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!

Cindy is our Saturday bartender!

  

Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!

Tom

[EricX2000]

Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, a chicken filet sandwich, please! A cold Keith's.

I am very disappointed and frustrated this evening. I had some photos and slides put aside to scan for this Veteran's Day and last night when I was going to scan them they were all gone! And still is! I have no clue what happened to them. All I have is this picture from Arlington.

In Honor of All our veterans!!! 

 

 

All I can do is to apologize for not keeping things in better order. I am still trying to find the missing pictures.

Tom –  Not aged a day since that cab photo was taken? I guess I should be flattered but I think I looked old already then! Probably caused by the water, yes.

I thought something was wrong with the movie title, but I thought Oh no, our Captain would never miss anything like that!

Railroads are extremely important during wars. Interesting facts about Great Northern and Pullman!! Plus AAR!

A Trip to Remember, a very good article I read earlier!

Lars –  Nice post with the flag of the Merchant Marine and song, plus several wellknown posters!

JanOlov –  Interesting reading about the USRA!

Ron –  Very nice posters! The top one from a very important year, 1943! That was when I started...

I am glad you posted a picture from Arlington! I have some pictures I was going to use from Arlington but they all disappeared just in time for this Sunday.

Pete –  Nice of the railroads to honor the previous employees who didn’t come back from the war(s).

Mike –  The top picture is the best!

And the Sunnyside pictures are very interesting!

 

 

Eric

 

 

[wanswheel]

Good evening Commander, a round for the house

Thank you for your service Tom.  Keep on the Sunnyside

Mike

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Figured I'd get a leg up on the comments while I'm still able. <grin>

Customer Acknnowledgments - since my last narrative 

Monday - Nov 12^th, 2007:

Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:22 AM & 9:26 AM: Ten absolutely perfect Merchant Marine posters to help commemorate our observance of Remembrance - Armistice - Veteran's Day here at the Saloon by the Siding! Five- Salute to the man we call the Larsman!

We amassed quite an archive of WWII material, much of it railroad/railway related. Says a lot about this current crew. Nicely done - ALL!

Many thanx for your continuing efforts to keep this place moving forward, the round ‘n having you aboard twice this day!

Jan (JanOlov) at 9:30 AM: If that is an original thought regarding the table set for one - terrific job. If not, it's a most appropriate tribute to those many of us hold in high esteem, especially at this time of year. Five- Salute to our Resident Swede in Scotland!

As ever - round, visit ‘n extras most appreciated!

Pete (pwolfe) at 3:12 PM: Another all around fine, inclusive ‘n interesting Post from our Bar Chandler <Acting Manager>!

Catch up Email received - thanx!

Having never goosed a moose, I've no further comment! <uh oh>

Info on the Stanier 8F steamer is really worth the reading . . . thanx! It's good that there are people who take the time ‘n make the effort to preserve that which is worth preserving! Cheers to them!

Aside from what I mentioned regarding the Forum's Gremlins on Saturday - it's kinda like UFO sightings; one begins to wonder whether it happened or not. <strange>

Many thanx for the visit, foto ‘n round!

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See ya in the 'morrow!

Tom

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A round please RUTH for an excellent day yesterday. As Tom says we are a Unique Place in the Ether.

TOM Those Railroad Ads were all really well written, but the NYC Boy on a Hill Top really stands out for me.

Many thanks for sharing the very moving letter from Marcus Garnet. I appreciate him letting us share it. Well done VIA rail for making the train possible. Having now traveled the route of the train from Halifax and Montreal I can imagine the people turning out to see the train at the stations on route.

LARS Thanks for the Merchant Marine posters. I know my father, who served in the Royal Navy in WWII, had a great deal of respect and admiration for the Merchant Seamen.

JAN Thanks for the very interesting info on the USRA. I had heard of the USRA but did not know a lot about it. There are some of the USA war time built locomotives for Europe In the UK on preserved lines, I believe they are of class S160.

They are very fine and poignant words in your post today.

RON Thanks for the Veterans Day posters and the Ballard Of Rodger Young which I had not seen before. The bride's cousin served in the Honor Guard so the piece was of great interest to me many thanks for sharing.

ALLAN Those fine words are used at ceremonies in the UK as well.

I would like to mention a preserved loco which as been dedicated to the British Military Railway men who lost their lives in the World Wars . It is an ex LMS 8F 2-8-0 class of freight locomotive which was built by the North British Locomotive Company of Glasgow Scotland in 1940. The loco was used in Persia in 1941 ferrying supplies to the Russians and was later in Egypt. It was in very poor condition after the war and was due to be scrapped, but instead was shipped back to England and was repaired at Derby Works. It was saved after its BR service and now runs on the Severn Valley Railway and no doubt will be involved at a Remembrance service held on the railway  .

The loco is behind No 45110 and is in the livery and appearance it would have been when serving in the war as W.D. No 307.

A link to the 8F, to see the plaque please click on  RE WWII.

http://www.8fsociety.co.uk/002.htm

ERIC Many thanks for the info on those locomotives from Holland in Alan's photos; I will send them to him.

UP # 9000 is a very impressive locomotive, thanks for the photos

TOM I see you are getting the much-needed rain we have had it most of the morning with the odd bit of thunder.

I too noticed something with the forum Saturday. I saw LARS ‘s name on the post about the NYC Ad.

It is great you have heard from Nick and many thanks for the book covers I think it is the first time I have ever seen books on the railways of Hawaii. I wonder if any remain in service there today

The info on Alaska railroad #1 or more properly #6 certainly deserves a round from me. I must ask about the Anchorage Lions Club Moose Gooser train at the Fur Rendezvous. I don't suppose there will be any moose gooseing at our rendezvous.

Well it was RUTH when I started but I see it is owner TOM now, so drinks on me.

Pete.  

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Here's something SPECIAL for Wolfman Pete who inquired about that 0-4-0 steam loco on display across from the Anchorage, Alaska train depot . . .

<This was initially Posted on 10 Jun 2006 on Page 351 of the Original Thread>

The Davenport Locomotive on the pedestal in front of the Anchorage Depot was never on the roster as #1. It is actually #6 and started life as a 3 foot gauge locomotive that was then standard gauged. It became the ceremonial #1 only because it was a survivor.

from: http://alaskamodelrrnews.homestead.com/Steam.html

Historian Pat Durand says, "Builders #764 by Davenport Locomotive Works October 1907 for the Isthmus Canal Commission where it operated as No. 802. Acquired by the Alaska Engineering Commission as #6 in 1917. This locomotive was 3 foot gauge and was converted to standard gauge and used as a shop switcher in Anchorage. During 1947 she was renumbered No. 1 for use by the Anchorage Lions Club Moose Gooser train on 4th and 5th Avenue during the Fur Rendezvous for two years. Later she was placed on display facing East in front of the Depot. In the 1990, Bob Yost lead a group to a full restoration, short of a new boiler, and she went back on the display facing West."

from: http://www.alaskarails.org/pix/former-loco/JC-arr1.html

And, finally from my Pix archives!

 

 Okay - drinks on Pete for all of MY efforts!

Later . . .

Tom

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Ruth, go ahead and take your break - in fact - take the rest of the day off, things are looking mighty sloooooooooow here.

For all planning to attend Rendezvous III - check your Email!

A perfectly luke-warm, partly cloudy fall day has turned to bouts of hard driving rain - nothing severe - but much need precip 'round these parts. <finally> Leaves are piling up - looks like there's gonna be lots of work out there for someone. <oooooooops> That's Moi!<groan>

Good to see Lars 'n Jan show up on this holiday Monday . . . figured we'd have some slack on this day. Nice contributions from both!!

Just a bit surprised that we haven't seen either of the Canadian guys lately . . . yeah I know, busy, busy . . . But sure seems odd that Cap'n Fergie has taken shelter ever since he got <tweeted> back on Page 137, Nov 5th . . .

Perhaps a bit of promise - heard from one of our favorite characters and now a UTB - Nick (nickinwestwales) by Email. Family matters have kept him away, but he's beginning to see daylight - so who knows Maybe - just maybe we'll see a return.

Stealing a "theme" from our Manager, here's a few BOOK COVERS I've found to continue along with the wartime-RR theme for these past two days . . .

Hawaiian Railway Album, Vol 1

Hawaiian Railway Album, Vol 2

Hawaiian Railway Album, Vol 3

Hawaiian Railway Album, Vol 4

America's Fighting Railroads

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Enjoy!

Tom  

[JanOlov]

Greetings Tom and gentlemen.....

Barkeep.....may I please have the usual extra cold Guinness, top with cigars for the crew please...? Keep the change..

$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer.....

marthastrainyard, nice pics mate.... I must admit that I wasn't a fan of those UP M-10000's at first, and I still like the later ones better than M-10000-M10002...

Cy Young...? Am I correct guessing baseball?

pwolfe, I like that post from the second I saw it, awesome pics to say the least.... Nice pics in your post mate ....that tiny diesel, it is a Kof or whatever they were called....German?

Tom, good choice of flicks mate....and your post are second to none.....

EricX2000, nice pics of the 4-12-2 9000 mate ....looks like she needs a bit of TLC...

Da Larsman, great posts and ads....

DD1, great ads and lyrics and the post about Guarding The TOMB Of The Unknown Soldier...

Next round is on me lads!

Perhaps as you entered the hall tonight, you noticed the small table, set for one, in a place of honor.

  The military cast is filled with symbolism. This table is our way of acknowledging that members of our proud profession of arms are missing from our midst.

  They are POWs, MIAs and KIAs. We call them brothers. They are unable to be with us this evening, so we remember them because of their sacrifices.

  The tablecloth is white, symbolizing the purity of their intentions to respond to their country's call to arms.

  The single rose in the vase reminds us of the families and loved ones of our Comrades-in-Arms who keep faith, awaiting their return.

  The red ribbon tied so prominently on the vase, is reminiscent of the red ribbon worn upon the lapel and *** of thousands who bear witness to their underlying determination to demand a proper accounting of our missing.

  A slice of lemon is on the bread plate, to remind us of their bitter fate.

  The salt is symbolic of the tears, as they wait.

  The glass is inverted; he cannot toast with us this night.

  The chair is empty; he is not here.

  Remember, all of you who served with them and called them comrade, who depended upon their might and aid, and relied upon them, for surely they have not forgotten you. 

I propose a toast to our Fallen Comrades....

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth, another round on me! Boris, ring the chimes . . .

Back with 5 more from the Larsman Mobile!

  

  

Until the next time!

Lars

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, how good it is to feast these old eyes upon your radiant beauty! <blush> <phew> Time for a mugga Joe with a jolt - a round for the boyz ‘n treats for the crittAHs! Keep the change my deAH!

Boris, that LARGE jar of PPF is for you AFTER you feed the gang their breakfast ‘n don't forget, Artie gets his field mouse OUT BACK <ugh>.

I'd say we had a terrific Nov 11^th here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside. Yeah, we missed a couple of guys who I really thought would show up - but such is life, huh We ALL have things requiring our time ‘n attention aside from being in cyber space.

I thought Da Bossman totally stole the show yesterday with those reworked WWII RR related postAHs. Really some fine stuff ‘n well done. A 5- Salute to Cap'n Tom!

Not to take away from the other guys - Ron, Jan ‘n Pete all contributed to make the day a success. Really well done boyz!

Thought today's submission by Cap'n Tom hit the spot too! Must've been a great ride for those vets ‘n their wives. Appreciated the links . . .

Did anyone other than Da Bossman and me notice the screwy stuff going on yesterday when several of the guys tried to post around the same time Really a strange result. Somehow got straigtened out, but for a while it looked like one of those <Twilight Zone> episodes of "back in the day"!

I've got a few more posters to share, then I'm afraid it's time for me to disappear for awhile. Got some mattAHs to attend to that will keep me away perhaps ‘til right before Thanksgiving. I'll surely try to get in now ‘n then, but things are looking TIGHT right now.

Here comes the Larsman Mobile with more five more WWII posters!

  

Ruth, we've got some  <ahem> admin matters to attend to on your break! <ooooooh>

Until the next time!

Lars  

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Here's an "annual" Post that many of our guys have enjoyed at this time of year . . .

 

Here's something a bit different that I found in my latest TransportAction newsletter from Transport2000Canada, Vol 27, No. 6, Dec 05, 2005.  The article has been retyped with permission from the author, which I profoundly express my appreciation. Hope all of you enjoy it.

A Trip to Remember

(Marcus Garnet, President, T2000 Atlantic)

My wife, Christine, and I had been looking forward to riding VIA Rail's Remembrance Day Train ever since we had booked our trip from Halifax to Montreal. This train was, in fact, a special expanded version of VIA's regular Ocean run, and left Halifax on November 9^th, two days before Remembrance Day. The general public were permitted to ride in addition to veterans, who were especially encouraged to be part of this historic trip. They would transfer in Montreal to Train 33 to continue their journey to Ottawa the following morning.

The idea for the commemorative trip during the Year of the Veteran had arisen many months previously, with a suggestion made at the Halifax ticket office and the dedicated initiative of Ronald Jackson, one of the VIA agents there. Many other VIA staff members and external organizations worked together to make the trip a success.

When we arrived at the Halifax station we were greeted by a red carpet. An on-veterans we felt unworthy to tread on it, but this was only the beginning. Many thoughtful touches gave a period feel, including a shoe-shiner offering his services for 25 cents, who later rode on the train itself. The booking hall abounded with uniformed military people and displays of photos and war memorabilia.

We were immediately reminded of the personal cost which so many have paid to protect freedom and democracy in Canada and other nations, including my homeland - the United Kingdom. My parents had often told me of the hardships of growing up in England during World War II. More recently, and over in Canada, Christine's late father was well known and loved by the patients whom he had faithfully visited for many years at the Camp Hill Veteran's Memorial Hospital.

After checking our luggage we took turns to look at the displays, before a staff member exhorted us to get on board. We walked down another red carpet, awed by the ranks of military personnel standing at attention on either side. We gazed along the platform between two endless rows of gleaming stainless steel railcars, each door guarded by a uniformed military person as well as the helpful VIA Rail staff. We heard that the 33-car train (including three engines, two domes, three diners, three coaches and a baggage car) would be the longest to operate on this route since World War II, and would carry approximately 420 passenger once those from Moncton had embarked. Because of its length, the train was parked at the station in two halves and later coupled together.

After moving into our double bedroom we hastened to the dome in the Park Car, and watched the enormous train pull out of Halifax, recalling the troop trains that connected with ships to and from Europe so many years ago. Along the historic railway cut, people stood on the many bridges looking down at our train and waved to us. The Halifax Herald printed a special page with the words "Thank You" accompanied by a bright red poppy, and many onlookers held these up as signs while our train passed. There were many media reporters on board with their TV cameras, and some remained on the train for the entire trip. Seated up in the dome, we had a panoramic view and felt humbled by the privilege of participating in such a special occasion. Soon we could see the whole train stretched out alongside the Bedford Basin, reminding us of the wartime convoys which had been assembled there, and which many veterans had helped to protect.

Before boarding we had been given a paper assigning us to one of the three diners on the train, which for the occasion were termed "Mess Halls." There were tow sittings for lunch and three for supper, while breakfast was also available the following morning. Walking down the endless corridors to "Mess Hall 2," it was easy to see that more than half the passengers were veterans. Signs outside their bedrooms indicated the name and military position, and in our diner there were plenty of uniforms and colourful badges. At one of the meals we made friends with an older couple who told us of family members who had lost their lives while fighting overseas in World War II. It was a reminder than many who fought never returned, and that this train was also a tribute to them.

After our first meal on board, we waited for our bill, but it never came. We were told that all meals were complimentary, sponsored by Atlantic Superstore and VIA Rail. The food was very enjoyable, served by an attentive and efficient staff. Throughout the journey, we appreciated the enthusiastic attitude and helpfulness of VIA employees. This was all the more impressive in view of the large numbers who needed to be accommodated, some of whom had special needs. It seemed that every detail had been anticipated, including the provision of a volunteer paramedic who assisted several passengers enroute.

Our train was enthusiastically welcomed at the many Maritime communities we passed through. Some people held up "Thank You" signs in their own yards. Others were parked near grade crossings to anticipate our arrival. One or two stood alone and saluted the train as it passed. At Truro, crowds of children lined their schoolyard fence and waved. Crossing the Tantramar marshes, we were greed by two deer romping in a nearby field with the train curving around almost as a backdrop - a magnificent sight! At each station, a home-grown welcome awaited us, a band, a choir, a troupe of cadets standing at attention. At Moncton, we took a brief walk outside and almost got lost in the crowd following the pipe band marching up the platform.

There were poignant greetings at the tiny communities served by flagstops, where people had gone far out of their way to prepare for the train's arrival. We especially remember the stop at Jacquet River late in the northern New Brunswick evening, where a flatbed truck had been parked as a float, complete with a strobe light mounted on a stepladder. People used what they had to show their appreciation. The last community in New Brunswick, Tidewater, does not even have a flagstop, but by prior arrangement our train slowed down so we could see the people waving, the coloured lights and the lone fire truck with its strobes flashing a salute. These people had stayed up late and waited long for our dela

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo