Hello Tom and all in
Quick pint for me please.
Just a short message for Pete to say I've got hold of a copy of the Railway Magazine with the LMS supplment - looks good. Juts gotta find time to read it (plus my copy of Classic Trains not read either yet...)
Anyway - hope to respond with a more inclusive visit soon.
Tom - got your e-mails - noted and will reply in due course of course.
Regards to one and all
DL
Good Morning All I see The Captain is up bright eyed and bushy tailed this a.m.
EricX2000 wrote:Fergie – It seems like you are well prepared for “Noel”! Maybe you should add some more beverages? Hope the storm passed without any damages.
Fergie – It seems like you are well prepared for “Noel”! Maybe you should add some more beverages? Hope the storm passed without any damages.
We were suppose to have friends over for Rumoli but as it turned out they wisely opted out as the winds started to pick up at 7pm. So rumoli with the Mrs., The MiL and Son No.2 With beer and wine to temper the festivities
It was fairly quiet until about 2am and then the Freight Train hit! 4 hours of "house shaking" hurricane force winds" ( I live in a two story with tongue and groove boards). The only damage I sustained was the Trellis was knocked down. Knew it would happen anyway. 100,000 without power, 2 inches of rain, 4" in other locals wind peaked at 83mph and at present 60,000 are still without power and maybe for another day or two.
Tom: We were in Bedford Yesterday and saw your Rena-nonsence steam by, the whistle sounded good anyway... Also saw a 35' sailboat jammed into the little alcove under the CN bridge. High and dry and against the sea wall
BTW thanks for the intro I suspect I'll be buying the next few to keep everyone happy. And Vito at bay.
Well I have a busy day ahead of me so later (have to go look for a new vehicle)
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
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A smile to begin the week!
Thank you for making this day necessary.
<A Yogi-ism!>
G'day Gents!
What's to say It's Monday! Soooooo, let's make the best of it, eh Mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery 'n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
We made the most of Sunday as the "pick day" for the final weekend of fall brilliance in these parts. We spent a delightful day over at Pere Marquette State Park in Illinois (largest in the state). It's located at a picturesque spot where the Illinois River has its confluence with the Mississippi, just north of a river town called Grafton. Some outstanding scenery along the Great River Road on the Illinois side with the fall colors in absolute splendor. The lodge at the park is a place we've always enjoyed - rustic dining room, super comfortable setting and of course great dining. Takes about 75 minutes from where Juneau lives.
Some railroading along the way as there are several freight spurs at roadside in Alton where ConAgra has a huge rail ‘n barge facility. Just an all ‘round great day!
Comments from the Proprietor:
Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Saturday - 03 Nov 2007:
Jan (JanOlov at 4:23 PM: Anchorage latitude ‘n longitude is 61° 13' North, 149° 52', West whereas Fairbanks <where the Denali Star was bound> is 64° 83'N, 147° 71' W.
Great looking shrouded monsters of steel!
Thanx for the support ‘n top ups, et al!
Pete (pwolfe) at 8:27 PM: I knew that cartoon would change - daily. Glad you caught it! For the rest of ya - it was a Bat Man cartoon showing the "caped crusader" sitting on a bar stool with "Guano Happens" on the front of his outfit. The guy next to him asks, "Bad day?" Very appropriate for our very own Bat Man Pete! <grin>
Here's a link that shouldn't change daily:
http://www.comics.com/creators/speedbump/archive/speedbump-20071103.html
I shudda noticed you said "Railway" vs "Railroad" in reference to the magainze. Thanx for the clarification . . . We'll be sure to check out the Barriger <no "N"> during our Rendezvous III - probably need to schedule a bit more time than last visit.
You can handle it, Mate - being in charge of this joint means keeping Boris out of trouble, Leon busy, Ruth <ahem> . . . well never mind, she's <off limits> ‘n order maintained in the place.
Thanx for the 2nd visit on Saturday - that helps too, especially with our Manager away for a bit.
Fergie (Fermiester) at 10:14 PM: Appears the southwestern portion of Nova Scotia got more of Noel than where you are. Glad you've weathered the weather!
Wonderin' if you "know" the guys who make up the "nucleus" of this joint . . . in no particular order here are our "lynch pins" . . .
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) - he's our Resident WVA Connection ‘n Everything Rail Aficionado Supreme. There's no finer individual at this bar ‘n he's been with us continuously during the week days since opening back in April 2005.
Pete (pwolfe) - (you met him!!) - he's our Resident Mid-Missouri Brit Connection who keeps me on my toes both in ‘n out of the bar! <grin> At the bar
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, my friend! Saturday night, it is time for that juicy Filet Mignon with all the mushrooms! A baked potatoe and an ice cold Keith's, please. Oh, don't forget, a round for the house!
A short Saturday, but nice! Also a lot of nice reading and pictures at the bar!
JanOlov – You picked a good one of barndad’s posts! Interesting reading and pictures!And a good mix of steam action in those pictures from the West. I especially like the one from above Raton, NM. A column of streamlined locos from a number of different railroads! Did all class 1 railroads have streamlined steam locomotives? Fergie – It seems like you are well prepared for “Noel”! Maybe you should add some more beverages? Hope the storm passed without any damages. Tom – No insomnia, just a lot of things to do and weekend! From the moment I put my head on the pillow it takes me less than one minut to fall asleep. No round ever? I guess you missed it again! Two days (11/01) ago you could read this:“Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Yes, Leon, I know I am early. I would like to have my steak and bisquits with curly fries tonight. A round for the house!”I will remember your wishes about any future quiz.A bunch of Manager Lars’ nice book covers! The top one reminds me about my telephone (one of them). That phone is a model of the same locomotive! More nice Alaska pictures!! I found an interesting car in pix 6 and 7. Looks like an old Amtrak Metroliner car. Do you know anything about that car?Two more Hornblower movies at the Emporium! I guess I should go and see them. I’ve never seen a Hornblower movie! Ron – My passport arrived today! Exactly one week and $127 after I sent in my application. It is actually a very fancy passport with pictures on all pages, including one picture of a steam locomotive pulling a freight train! Very nice!The first generation of concrete ties in Sweden had a metal bar/tube that held the two concrete parts together. I’ll try to find a picture and post it in a day or two.Very nice pictures from the NorthlandZ model railroad!! Those bridges are something else!Pete – It would be nice to have those codes available. But we have to be carefully so Manager Lars doesn’t notice anything! I have been to San Francisco a number of times and been riding the cable cars almost every time. I have photos and video from those rides. There is a cable car museum on the route of the cable cars. I have not visited it yet.
Adding a few pictures.
Union Pacific in Nevada 1981.
Ottawa, ON, 1993.
RTL #158, track 16, Union Station, Washington D.C. 1992.
Refueling, Minot, ND, 1993.
Former Melbourne streetcar, Seattle, WA 1993.
Eric
Good Evening All
It's last call here and the lights are still on as the storm will reach it's apex in about an hour. So at the risk of leaving every one in the dark it's "Lights Out" see ya all Monday!
HI Tom and all.
Open bar still LEONGreat I'll have a Bathams XXX please
JAN Yes I consider myself a LMS man, but as you say, the Great Western Railway passenger classes did look superb when they were clean and the copper was polished.
When King George V was on the main line in preserved days one of the volunteers, among other jobs, would polish the buffers before each main line trip. On one trip he was unable to help and met the engine at the station, anyway as the engine approached the station we happened to be next to him and one of the support crew. He said "Look at the state of the buffers", which appeared to be very dirty indeed and was he getting very irate. It was only as the engine pulled along side him that he could see they had taped two black bin liners over the buffers, there were removed to reveal buffers you could see your face in.
Many thanks for those great looking Streamliners.
TOM. Many thanks for the link to that great, and this week, Oh so true, cartoon
ME in charge(YIKES) indeed.
It seems I have caused to you. It is the October 2007 British Railway Magazine they have at the Barringer on the list.
I wasn't clear about the car in the third photo which only the very front of it can be seen next to the locomotive, it appears to have windows in the end. I think looking at it again it is a railway officials car.
Two more great Hornblower films on the Emporium this week, great storys. .I see the Stooges get Higher than a Kite, a great play on words.. Just a little point though, they did not have Colonels in the RAF, but with Marshal Boring after them it is a minor thing..
Well LEON with the open bar I think the track gang are going to beat their previous record, so out with the empties and in with the full ones..
Pete.
ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!
at "Our" Place!
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!
Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . November 4th thru 10th: TWO FEATURES: Horatio Hornblower - Loyalty & Duty (2003) Starring: Ioan Gruffudd, Robert Lindsay (II), Paul McGann, Lorcan Cranitch & Tony Haygarth. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Higher Than A Kite (1943).
Horatio Hornblower - Loyalty (2003)
PLOT SUMMARY: Dashing Ioan Gruffud stars as dashing Horatio Hornblower, unparalleled British naval hero, in two more delightful episodes from the A&E series. In Loyalty, a peace with France has left Hornblower decommissioned and short on funds. Only the help of his landlady's daughter Maria (heartbreaking Julie Sawalha, Absolutely Fabulous) keeps him from being kicked out into the street. Fortunately for our hero, Napoleon's armies are afoot, and Hornblower soon finds himself sailing to France in command of the Hotspur, grappling with Irish traitors and French skullduggery.
Dashing Ioan Gruffud stars as dashing Horatio Hornblower, unparalleled British naval hero, in two more delightful episodes from the A&E series. In Loyalty, a peace with France has left Hornblower decommissioned and short on funds. Only the help of his landlady's daughter Maria (heartbreaking Julie Sawalha, Absolutely Fabulous) keeps him from being kicked out into the street. Fortunately for our hero, Napoleon's armies are afoot, and Hornblower soon finds himself sailing to France in command of the Hotspur, grappling with Irish traitors and French skullduggery.
In Loyalty, a peace with France has left Hornblower decommissioned and short on funds. Only the help of his landlady's daughter Maria (heartbreaking Julie Sawalha, Absolutely Fabulous) keeps him from being kicked out into the street. Fortunately for our hero, Napoleon's armies are afoot, and Hornblower soon finds himself sailing to France in command of the Hotspur, grappling with Irish traitors and French skullduggery.
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NOTE: This concludes the Horatio Hornblower series at The Emporium Theatre!
Horatio Hornblower - Duty (2003)
PLOT SUMMARY: Duty picks up where Loyalty leaves off; Hornblower marries Maria with some ambivalence, but the day after his wedding sails for the coast of France to find a missing ship. After rescuing a supposedly Swiss man and his American wife in a storm, Hornblower finds himself caught between an old foe in France and diplomats in England. Though the derring-do is sometimes melodramatic, Horatio Hornblower swiftly becomes engrossing and suspenseful. Credit is due to smart scripts, efficient direction, Gruffud's heroically curly hair, and a superb supporting cast, including Robert Lindsay and Paul McGann (Withnail and I). --Bret Fetzer
Duty picks up where Loyalty leaves off; Hornblower marries Maria with some ambivalence, but the day after his wedding sails for the coast of France to find a missing ship. After rescuing a supposedly Swiss man and his American wife in a storm, Hornblower finds himself caught between an old foe in France and diplomats in England. Though the derring-do is sometimes melodramatic, Horatio Hornblower swiftly becomes engrossing and suspenseful. Credit is due to smart scripts, efficient direction, Gruffud's heroically curly hair, and a superb supporting cast, including Robert Lindsay and Paul McGann (Withnail and I). --Bret Fetzer
SHORT: Higher Than A Kite (1943)
PLOT SUMMARY: The Stooges join the RAF hoping to fly, but wind up as motor pool mechanics instead. After they destroy a Colonel's car, they hide in a "sewer pipe" which is actually a blockbuster bomb being loaded onto a plane. After the bomb is dropped behind enemy lines, Moe and Curly disguise themselves as German soldiers, while Larry dresses as a seductive (?) senorita. Marshal Boring falls for Larry in drag, and the Stooges manage to steal the Germans' war plans.
The Stooges join the RAF hoping to fly, but wind up as motor pool mechanics instead. After they destroy a Colonel's car, they hide in a "sewer pipe" which is actually a blockbuster bomb being loaded onto a plane. After the bomb is dropped behind enemy lines, Moe and Curly disguise themselves as German soldiers, while Larry dresses as a seductive (?) senorita. Marshal Boring falls for Larry in drag, and the Stooges manage to steal the Germans' war plans.
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Enjoy the weekend - and - extra hour of sleep ! Tom
Greatings Tom and gentlemen....
Barkeep....could I please have a Gin & Tonic and the usual top up with cigars for the boys please....keep the change..
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer...
DD1, nice pics of that layout mate....never seen so much track in one place....
Tom, Anchorage, eh? The place which I'm from is higher up on this space shuttle of ours than that lovely town....winters...! Really enjoy your pics mate....looking forward to a follow up to this series....
pwolfe, being more of a LMS or LNER person when it comes to the british companies, I can't help but love those Castle and Kings classes of the Great Western, they were art on wheels....
Great pics as always mate!
The next round is on me lads.....Whisky all the way around!
Just passing by with another posting for our photo posting day...streamlined lassies sitting pretty.
NYNH&H streamlined 4-6-4 #1400 in New Haven, Conn., August 18, 1937.
NYC streamlined 4-6-2 #4915 in Toledo, Ohio, August 9, 1936.
C&NW streamlined 4-6-4 #4005 in Council Bluffs, Iowa, May 29, 1938.
NYC streamlined 4-6-4 #5450 in Harmon, N.Y., April 16, 1938.
Credit: All above Otto Perry and photoswest...
Reading streamlined 4-6-2 #117 The Crusader...
Lehigh Valley streamlined 4-6-2 #2102 in Allentown., Pa.
Credit: northeastrailfan, photographer unknown...
This is for Bat Man Pete!!
http://www.creators.com/comics/speed-bump.html
<not sure how long this will stay "up" - I think it changes daily>
Good to see our Bar Chandler up 'n about the decks this fine day. With our Manager gone - things 'round here fall to the Bar Chandler to assume his duties. <yikes> Yeah - that's the way our Oar-Gain-I-Zay-Shun chart shows the "chain" . . . I'm sure you'll do fine! BUT, the Penthouse Suite is OFF LIMITS as is Ruth! <uh oh>
Wunnerful Pix from your Mate - Alan, once again! I couldn't find that observation car - what am I doing wrong??? Anyway, he surely has "the life," eh Guess the grass always looks greener, eh
There will be other days to rendezvous out at the 1847 at Stone Hill . . . important thing is to get over whatever got the both of you - surely sounds like the flu to me. You shudda been here when the Mentor Village Visiting Nurses 'n Go Go Dancers Association (MKVVNGGDA) gave out the shots . . . <geesh> Can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, eh <grin>
Sent you two Emails this morning . . .
I thought the Railroad Magazine was DEFUNCT <as in out of print> but you said the Barriger Library has the Oct 2007 issue - now I'm really confused!!
Can't say for certainty that I recall any of the details of my SFran visit back in 1953. That was when I was 15 and we were returning to NYC from Santa Ana, CA from the Boy Scout Jamboree. The train took us up to Oakland/SFran - where we spent a bit of time for this 'n that . . . then on to the Muir Redwoods, and so forth. An adventure chronicled on these Pages a few times . . .
Many thanx for stopping by 'n providing us with a fine inclusive Post 'n Pix - round too!
Catch ya on Monday!
Tom
Hi Tom and all.
A pint of Holden's mild please CINDY.
JAN It would have indeed been interesting to see what would have happened if the Big 4 had not been nationalized in 1948, although the railways were very run down after the war, but if the government had paid the money the railways deserved for moving all the wartime traffic they could have put the railways in order, but of course money was very tight in Britain in those post war years. I have heard talk that the privatized railways in Britain today may finish with 4 or 5 companies so the big 4 could come back.
Glad you enjoyed the photos and thanks for the round.
Many thanks for the great Atlantic Coast Line encore from DOUG and those great photos; there is nothing better than a steam locomotive working hard in cold weather. What a sound there must have been traveling on the California Limited up the grade at Lynn N.M. and a day an the Raton Pass in steam days would have been one that would stay in the memory.
FERGIE Stay safe with those hurricane force winds due to arrive, I see you are well stocked with the essentials though.
ERIC I see you are ruling your quiz with a rod of iron. I will share those codes with you if you like.
Did you get to ride the San Francisco cable cars while you were there. I think they have a cable car museum, which is on the route of the cable cars, but time was tight when I was there and I could not visit this time, another reason to go back there.
RON That is a great thing about the San Francisco cable cars is that they are still doing what they have always done being in public service. I suppose the residents get a little upset sometimes with the tourists, as there was a long queue to get on the cable car. I guess the streetcars have never stopped working there ether, they seem to have got some streetcars from other cities.
Many Thanks for the photos from NorthlandZ and those great Trestles.
TOM Real that we are not at Stone Hill on this lovely fall Missouri day, as you say I am on the upswing but it seems a rotten bug this that wants to hang on. Guess who is getting the blame for the bride catching it.
That is a great link to the material in the Barringer Library full of detail and up to date; I see they have the October 2007 issue of the Railway Magazine on the list.
I guess traveling on the SF cable cars has not changed a lot since the 1950s, although the drivers job is a lot harder today with the increase in car traffic, it must cost a lot to maintain the infrastructure but surely it would never be allowed to close.
I will look forward to more in the Patron's Pix series.
Good words for Lars and great to see his Southern Railway bookcovers Encore.
Many thanks for the Alaskan Rail Adventure great photos at Anchorage.
Those Wilderness Express Ultra Domes have a great mural on the sides and that is a great backdrop to those locomotives in pics 6 and 7. That looks like a similar car to the Amtrak business class car we travel to K.C. in sometimes. Noticed the steam locomotive on display in pic 10. Thanks for sharing.
Congratulations for post 2,700. I think we will get to post 2,800 on November 14th with Eric posting it.
I have some of Alan's new photos the first six were taken at the North Yorks Moors Railway Gala this fall.
The first is a 1904 Kitson built 0-6-2 tank, which worked in the North East at Lambton Collieries.
These next two are BR standard class 4 4-6-0 No 75029.
Note the observation car behind 75029 in this one.
BR Standard 4 tank locomotive No 80136 leaves Leversham in typical moors weather the car is a Gresley Teak.
Thse next three are of ex LNER K4 3-cylinder 2-6-0 the onl
Looks as if I made the 2,700th Post at our reborn bar ‘n grill . . . I seriously question the "counting" method being employed, for it surely appears to me that when people "edit" the numbers must change . . . hmmmmm. Anyway, wonder who will make the 2,800th and when
I see we've had a couple of visitors since my AM summary . . .
Ron (DD1) at 10:41 AM: A rare Saturday appearance with full participation from our Resident Southern Gentleman down in Ole Miss <aka: Transplanted New Yorker>!
Won't jump in on your interesting comments as they were directed to others . . . however, I will say those fotos of that teeny-tiny gauge model RR are terrific! Someone surely had more time on their hands than the average bear to construct that huge trestle. <triple>
Appreciate the Saturday call, fotos ‘n round!
Jan (JanOlov) at 10:48 AM: Housekeeping ‘n some goodies for all!
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And so the foto tour of my 2006 Alaskan Rail Adventure is finally winding down . . . here's 10 more before they run out! <grin>
As a memory jogger for those who have been following these fotos - our trip was aboard the ARR portion of the train and NOT the cruise ship cars at the rear. We were not a part of a tour group and opted for the ARR Gold Star service (1st class) seating in the ARR Ultra Dome directly behind the baggage car at the front of the consist. Beneath the all-reserved seating was our private dining area 'n galley. A truly memorable 'n most enjoyable experience . . .
(1) Northbound ARR Denali Star at Anchorage
(2) Baggage kiosk at Anchorage Depot - baggage car is to the right of the ARR UltraDome (double decker)
(3) ARR Anchorage Depot and baggage kiosk
(4) Cruise ship UltraDomes attached to ARR Denali Star
(5) Picturesque mountains near Anchorage
(6) All sorts of things to look at in Anchorage
(7) Fascinating!
(8) Cruise Ship UltraDomes attached to ARR Denali Star at Anchorage
(9) Last Cruise Ship UltraDome
(10) What a view!
Enjoy! More next Saturday . . .
Greetings Tom and gentlemen....
Can I please have a refill of my extra cold Guinness, and top up with cigars for the lads....give them each a dram while you're at it too.....keep the change.
Just to correct the missing date and page on the encore of barndad's post....it was posted on 02-05-2007 and is on page 18....
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Good day Tom and fellow barflies. Drinks on me and Guinness for the beer connoisseurs.
Per: I'm glad someone remembers "black and tan". My departed grandmother who was from Northern Ireland used to tell me stories about the black and tan and how she would hide the guns when they came looking for her cousins and nephews who were involved in the IRA.
I traveled quite a lot when I was employed by a naval architect firm in San Francisco. I traveled business class to anywhere ships could be found and 1st class on occasion. Although it was a whirlwind tour, I did manage to see a lot of the world, at least that which was worth seeing. I'm not what you would call a "sightseer" or tourist. I would take off on my own from the crowd and explore the countryside. That way, I would see things tourists didn't. My trips were therefore very satisfying. I tried new foods in restaurants that the average tourist would never experience and a few other things I can't mention on a family oriented web site. I saw a lot of trains in my travels and regret never having taken pictures of them. I rode a narrow gauge train in Perth, Australia, but alas, no pics. I was working most of the time and didn't have enough time to explore and take pictures.
Eric: Your passport should arrive in about 3 weeks according to what I got from the passport service. That foto of the rail line in Sweden has unusual ties. I wonder what keeps them from spreading apart? Must be some sort of tie under all that ballast?
Jan: Nice coverage on the Henry Flagler railroad. It took a vision like Henry's to build in a troubled time. He is responsible for the success Florida enjoys today.
Nice quadruple engine foto. That sure must have been a chore to get all 4 engines synchronized.
CN3: According to a book "The Great Book of Trains" by Brian Hollingsworth and Arthur Cook, they quote "Pennsylvania Railroad Class GG1 electric locomotive in tuscan red livery. These noble machines could also be seen in black or dark green". This was my information source. Both authors are British and worked on various rail lines in the UK. They may have misquoted some other author during their research of American railroads.
Pete: The SF cable cars are indeed unique. Not only are they a tourist attraction, they serve as everyday transportation to work. I used to ride it for a year to work and whenever I had to go somewhere the cable car went.
Here are a few fotos of the NorthlandZ model railroad I took when I visited last year.
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Here's an ENCORE! from our Manager Lars, Posted on 19 Dec 2006 - Page 446 of the Original Thread:
I'd like to submit my offering for this Tuesday's Theme - book covers! Ruth, one more, then I better skedaddle, I think my name is being belowed called . . . <grin> Until the next time! Lars
Ruth, one more, then I better skedaddle, I think my name is being belowed called . . . <grin>
Until the next time!
Lars
Enjoy!
An outstanding fall morning here in mid-continent USA. That along with the smell of freshly made coffee is enough to put a <smile> on the beginning of a new day. Saturday!
Fill up the mugs - grab a few pastries, ‘n of course order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast to jump start the day!
Manager Lars (LoveDomes) will not be with us this weekend and perhaps not for awhile . . We'll miss his daily appearances, book ‘n video covers along with stewardship at the bar! Hurry back, Mate.
Friday - 02 Nov 2007:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:22 AM: Not to be concerned Mr. Manager - I'm the Proprietor, so the bar tab is coming out of my hide - not yours! <geesh> Poor Bat Man Pete has had a time of it lately, so that's the least I can do to relieve him of the pain!
Received your Email and fully understand the situation. We'll be here, Mate - just do what needs to be done.
I'll be the first to admit that Taconite is a new one on me! Perhaps that also applies to CM3 Shane too <grin> Good selections - as always for the Larsman Mobile visit!
Round, visit ‘n covers all appreciated!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 10:10 AM: Some super fine stuff for the Erie follow-up - just a font of info over there in WVA!
That PRR Brunswick Green surely looked black . . . then again, my recollections are more from the models than real steamers. Where I lived, we saw the GG1s ‘n diesels moreso than anything else.
Back to "normal" for our Resident WVA Connection now that the Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match reports are finished. Let's see what we can come up with engage you . . . hmmmmmm.
Thanx for the visit, chat, quarters ‘n round!
Ron (DD1) at 12:12 PM & 1:54 PM: "Ole Miss" made it in - twice - this fine day.
Unless you happen to be the Alaska Railroad, locomotives tend to get dirty - regardless of color. Up there, they have a "thing" about keeping ‘em spotless!
Figured you would figure out that contraption that Pete put up in his Pix.
As with most things in life, one has to pay the piper if one wants to dance to the music. Just avenues to expedite the process . . . always a personal choice, of course.
That movie you mentioned sounds more like a documentary to me - but thanx for the tip. I love those kinds of things ‘n will research it further.
Rounds appreciated along with the comments!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 1:21 PM: Second visit from our Manager AND more covers at that! Looks like you're doing an "overtime" thing today . . .
That 2nd batch of covers should interest Fergie ‘n Rob . . . nice going!
Looks like the Kalmbach Censor nailed ya - what did you say??? <uh oh> Just use <dashes> ‘n you can tell us! Like this: D-A-S-H . . .
Thanx for the head's up ‘n round! See ya soon . . .
Per (marthastrainyard) at 2:07 PM: The return of our Resident Cowboy Swede
Good MorningCaptainTom and Sundry
JUst a coffe to go as I'm getting ready to batten down the hatches for the arrival of "Noel" as there is Hurricane force winds in the forecast. At present we are prepared as we have the essentials. Water, food, batteries, firewood, propane, beer, wine, beer wine... red wine and kieths
JanOlov wrote:GN 4-8-4 #2588 with train #1, the Empire Builder, on bridge over Flathead River pulling 15 cars at 35 mph, near Glacier Park, Mont., August 5, 1938.
GN 4-8-4 #2588 with train #1, the Empire Builder, on bridge over Flathead River pulling 15 cars at 35 mph, near Glacier Park, Mont., August 5, 1938.
Ahh my Baby! Thanks Jan that's the one by Precision Craft I'm thinking of getting at Trainworld. Might hold out in ordering it as the Canadian $ is expected to hit $1.10 US in the near future.
Anyway time to go and secure.
Later All
I think that I'm ready for that extra cold Guinness now....feeling a bit more awake and alert now after the strong coffee.... Keep the lads topped up with whatever they're having including cigars throughout the day please....here's some for yourself...$$$$
A few extra $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer should keep the them going for a few hours as well me thinks...
And here's my contribution for photo posting day....
AT&SF 2-8-8-2 #1797, 4-8-2 #3719, 4-8-2 #3713 with train #4, the California Limited, 2-10-2 1701 is on the rear pushing, near Lynn, N.M
AT&SF 2-8-8-2 #1792 and 4-8-4 #3767 with train #20 The Chief with 14 cars hitting 30 mph, above Raton, N.M.
SP 4-8-2 #4300 with train #3, the Golden State Ltd with 13 cars doing 35 mph, near El Paso, Tex., July 24, 1935.
NP 4-6-2 #2236 and 4-8-4 #2601 with train #1, the North Coast Ltd with 10 cars moving at 12 mph, at Muir, Mont., September 25, 1931.
SP 4-8-2 #4305 with train #2, the Sunset Ltd pulling 8 cars at 30 mph, near Steins, N.M., April 21, 1933.
Credit: All above Otto Perry and photoswest.....
Greetings Tom and gentlemen.....
May I have some strong black Java please and give the laddies whetever they want this early hour on our encore and photo posting day.....keep the change..
barndad wrote: Hi again Tom and gang! Whiskey on the house? How can I refuse? Here's some more stuff on these Florida railways, and I'll apologize in advance for another groan-0-meter bustin' joke! The west coast traffic of the Atlantic Coast Line in the twentieth century was largely the railroad's heritage from the efforts of Henry Bradley Plant to develop on the state's western littoral a resort and transportation empire similar to the glittering success of Flagler's Florida East Coast. Plant, consumed with jealousy of Flagler imagined himself in social competition with the superb and aloof Standard Oil partner and, once encountering Flagler at Delmonico's, enquired snidely "Friend Flagler, just where is this place you call Palm Beach?" "Just follow the crowd, Friend Plant, just follow the crowd," Flagler told him. Regardless of the less elegant status of the West Coast resorts, the A.C.L. ran handsome seasonal trains to serve them, its diners continuing in their décor the theme of Spanish moss and palm trees the patrons were enjoying through the window.Below, The Gulf Limited rolls towards St. Petersburg with seventeen cars on the drawbar of a superbly maintained Pacific whose silver cylinder heads, smokebox candlesticks and ornate bell cradle symbolize railroading in the very grand manner of its happiest hour.The transition in railroad styles which saw the shift, largely accomplished in the 1920s, away from the designation of name trains as "Specials" in favor of "Limiteds" is aptly illustrated by the disappearance from the Atlantic Coast Line's timecards late in the twenties of The Pinellas Special and the listing in its place of The Gulf Coast Limited. The Limited like The Special before it, was the ranking train on the west coast run, but the steel-sheathed Pullmans and observations of the early twenties were replaced by Pullman Standard equipment. The customary assortment of sleepers out of New York was, interestingly, supplemented by a Montreal Pullman which went all the way through St. Petersburg on Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday during the winter months.Named for the Pinellas Peninsula which separates Tampa Bay from the Gulf of Mexico, the "Sunshine City" of St. Petersburg was the terminal of the Atlantic Coast Line's Pinellas Special when this photograph was taken in 1920 at a time when Florida was enjoying one of the most spectacular of its several hysterical real estate booms which, inevitably, ended in dismal bust. St. Petersburg, The Coast Line's promotional literature was quick to point out, has sixty miles of paved city streets and the motorist of the period could "travel to any town in Pinellas County without leaving the brick highway." "St. Petersburg," it added reassuringly, "while many a tourist resort, is an eminently clean town hygienically, and a place where the visitor may sojourn with every comfort." The Gold Coast route from Pam Beach to Miami envisioned by Henry Flagler was barely getting under way at this time and West Coast spas such as Sarasota, Tampa and Tarpon Springs which, like St. Petersburg were Coast Line territory, still had delusions of grandeur in the elegance sweepstakes, although the world of fashion had already indicated that the East Coast of the state would be its chosen parade in winter months.Florida East Coast dining cars which were incorporated into the consists of trains such as The Flamingo and The Seminole for the run south of Jacksonville were light and cheery of décor with murals depicting scenes of historic interest to the Florida-bound vacationist. Until the new leisure and universal wealth made seasonal tourism a mass production business, diner crews knew many of the Palm Beach regulars from one year to the next and F.E.C. travel approximated a familial status.With eighteen Standard cars on its drawbar as it takes water at West Palm Beach to take its big 4-8-4 to Miami, the combined Royal Palm-Dixie Flyer has no room for head-end revenue cars, and mail and express are handled by the Florida East Coast in separate trains during the winter season. A married man left from work early one Friday afternoon. Instead of going home, however, he squandered the weekend (and his paycheck) partying with the boys. When he finally returned home on Sunday night, he ran into a barrage of epithets from his wife. After a couple of hours of nagging and berating, his wife asked "How would you like it if you didn't see me for a couple of days?!?" "That would suit me just fine!!" the man said. Monday went by, and the man didn't see his wife. Tuesday went by with the same result. Wednesday went by with the same result. Thursday, the swelling went down a bit and he could see her a little, just out of the corner of his left eye.
Hi again Tom and gang! Whiskey on the house? How can I refuse? Here's some more stuff on these Florida railways, and I'll apologize in advance for another groan-0-meter bustin' joke!
The west coast traffic of the Atlantic Coast Line in the twentieth century was largely the railroad's heritage from the efforts of Henry Bradley Plant to develop on the state's western littoral a resort and transportation empire similar to the glittering success of Flagler's Florida East Coast. Plant, consumed with jealousy of Flagler imagined himself in social competition with the superb and aloof Standard Oil partner and, once encountering Flagler at Delmonico's, enquired snidely "Friend Flagler, just where is this place you call Palm Beach?" "Just follow the crowd, Friend Plant, just follow the crowd," Flagler told him. Regardless of the less elegant status of the West Coast resorts, the A.C.L. ran handsome seasonal trains to serve them, its diners continuing in their décor the theme of Spanish moss and palm trees the patrons were enjoying through the window.
Below, The Gulf Limited rolls towards St. Petersburg with seventeen cars on the drawbar of a superbly maintained Pacific whose silver cylinder heads, smokebox candlesticks and ornate bell cradle symbolize railroading in the very grand manner of its happiest hour.
The transition in railroad styles which saw the shift, largely accomplished in the 1920s, away from the designation of name trains as "Specials" in favor of "Limiteds" is aptly illustrated by the disappearance from the Atlantic Coast Line's timecards late in the twenties of The Pinellas Special and the listing in its place of The Gulf Coast Limited. The Limited like The Special before it, was the ranking train on the west coast run, but the steel-sheathed Pullmans and observations of the early twenties were replaced by Pullman Standard equipment. The customary assortment of sleepers out of New York was, interestingly, supplemented by a Montreal Pullman which went all the way through St. Petersburg on Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday during the winter months.
Named for the Pinellas Peninsula which separates Tampa Bay from the Gulf of Mexico, the "Sunshine City" of St. Petersburg was the terminal of the Atlantic Coast Line's Pinellas Special when this photograph was taken in 1920 at a time when Florida was enjoying one of the most spectacular of its several hysterical real estate booms which, inevitably, ended in dismal bust. St. Petersburg, The Coast Line's promotional literature was quick to point out, has sixty miles of paved city streets and the motorist of the period could "travel to any town in Pinellas County without leaving the brick highway." "St. Petersburg," it added reassuringly, "while many a tourist resort, is an eminently clean town hygienically, and a place where the visitor may sojourn with every comfort." The Gold Coast route from Pam Beach to Miami envisioned by Henry Flagler was barely getting under way at this time and West Coast spas such as Sarasota, Tampa and Tarpon Springs which, like St. Petersburg were Coast Line territory, still had delusions of grandeur in the elegance sweepstakes, although the world of fashion had already indicated that the East Coast of the state would be its chosen parade in winter months.
Florida East Coast dining cars which were incorporated into the consists of trains such as The Flamingo and The Seminole for the run south of Jacksonville were light and cheery of décor with murals depicting scenes of historic interest to the Florida-bound vacationist. Until the new leisure and universal wealth made seasonal tourism a mass production business, diner crews knew many of the Palm Beach regulars from one year to the next and F.E.C. travel approximated a familial status.
With eighteen Standard cars on its drawbar as it takes water at West Palm Beach to take its big 4-8-4 to Miami, the combined Royal Palm-Dixie Flyer has no room for head-end revenue cars, and mail and express are handled by the Florida East Coast in separate trains during the winter season.
A married man left from work early one Friday afternoon. Instead of going home, however, he squandered the weekend (and his paycheck) partying with the boys.
When he finally returned home on Sunday night, he ran into a barrage of epithets from his wife. After a couple of hours of nagging and berating, his wife asked "How would you like it if you didn't see me for a couple of days?!?"
"That would suit me just fine!!" the man said.
Monday went by, and the man didn't see his wife.
Tuesday went by with the same result.
Wednesday went by with the same result.
Thursday, the swelling went down a bit and he could see her a little, just out of the corner of his left eye.
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, an early Continental breakfast, please! A Cheese Danish and Coffee!
Another week gone, just seven more to go!
Tom – I’ll keep an eye on the bulletin board to see when the MVVNGGDA will show up next time.Electric loco? Okay, that is correct but not precise enough. The world is full of electric locomotives. Thanks for reposting the first Customer photos! When I first saw the picture of Brantford’s Via station I thought it was Kirkwood.
For no other reason than keep you happy I will show a picture with some snow.
It's from the early spring in 1975, 30-35 miles south of Stockholm, Sweden.
Lars – That goes for you too! Electric is correct but I need a more detailed answer! Thanks for the info on the Diamondbugs! At least one of them lasted several years! Interesting book and DVD covers! I’ll take the ARA Standard Box Car of 1932 and the Street Running DVD! Of the second set of books and DVD’s I’ll pick the last one, Ontario Iron Ore Railroads.CM3 – I would say that your father-in-law verifies the info I found on the website Lars provided about the Diamondbugs, Erie had a lot of problems with them. Thanks for the anecdotes!Ron – I am waiting for my new passport. Sent the old one last Saturday and paid a $127 expedite fee. I don’t know when the new one might be here. Per – AEM is 75% correct!! AEM-7 is the correct answer. Yes, I am kind of picky tonight! AEM-7 is very much related to the Swedish class Rc4. What prompted the idea to paint the locomotives black? Stupidity, I guess. The same thing as the idea to paint all X2000 gray! Pete – I would say you won the quiz with your answer AEM-7AC. Remove AC and you are right! The picture was taken 1992 and there were no ACs then. Security codes for the camera? That is very useful information! Good luck! Nice pictures of the cable cars. I have very similar pictures from the same place!JanOlov – Thanks for the round! I think the most I have paid for any book on ebay is less than $20.
Greetings Tom and gentlemen...
May I have a Gin & Tonic please, and the usual top up with cigars for the laddies...here's something for yourself too....$$$$
$$$$ for the the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Tom, nice covers of RAILROAD mate...! They must have been an interesting read back in the day with steam, modern steam and 1st generation diesels.... And a tip top second post as well....next round on me.
pwolfe, great post mate! I can't help but wonder sometimes what the railroads would have looked like today if they had still been a LMS, LNER, GW and a SOUTHERN ....
Great pics as always... next round on me.
Gunneral, cheers! Trying my hardest to please everybody in the bar...tough work with all the quality posts coming through here....next round on me.
EricX2000, I like ebay, I've done some good finds there. I have to admit though, some stuff is waayyy too $$$$..... next round on me.
Da Larsman, nice covers laddie...! The third and the last one looks really interesting to me....and of course the Minnesota - Ontario Iron Ore Railroads..next round on me.
By the by.....wasn't the "paper work" already taken care of during the week???
coalminer3, yeah, I'm really happy with my books....I'm always keeping an eye out for some interesting stuff about the railroads that I'm interested in....now I only have to find a few diesels..... next round on me.
An unexpected first recipient of the Above n Beyond Award a big honor AND my rather large Bar Tab forgiven many thanks, so a round for all please RUTH.
ALLAN WE done really well in the darts partner.
Glad you enjoyed the photo of the paddle tug, it is great that after a hard life on the Tyne she is enjoying a retirement in sunny California. If I can get back to San Francisco I will make sure I have enough time to go on board the vessels in that museum.
The more I think of it the more I wish I had been able to visit Newcastle in the 1950s.
I just missed the British Railways run ferry between New Holland and Hull, which I believed was run by paddle steamers.
ERIC Real glad the Doc has given you the OK.
I think there are some of those Railroad Magazines in the library we are due to visit at the Rendezvous.
Glad you enjoyed AL's post I encored.
Admin work, secret meeting places, security codes for the camera, yes Boris told me a lot of good things.
Is the locomotive in the photo an Amtrak AEM-7AC.
LARS Many thanks for the congrats
That is a great link to the McKeen Railcar; it is a very distinctive design with the circular windows.
An like me stirring the pot, surely that can't be right.
Great bookcovers from the Larsman Mobile today, that street running DVD would be very interesting, it as all but gone in the UK with freight traffic but most nights it happens here in Jeff City with the train serving local factories along Industrial Drive here.
I will try to make sure the bar is well stocked and the mascots well cared for during your absence.Thoughts with you.
CM3 That was a remarkable paint that was used on the freight PRR GG1s as you say in some light it looks black and other times greener in some photos I have seen.
Many thanks for the Erie anecdotes and info on the books.
I guess on the Mentor and Southern Narrow Gauge Annual Report cover the loco crew have sold the wood in the tender to a local farmer.
RON I very much enjoyed the short time I had in San Francisco, I would indeed like to go back to spend a lot longer there.
That's sounds a good explanation of the machine there, I did not see a board with any information about it.
I have some of San Francisco's Cable Cars later.
PER Hope you have a great time at the MR event this weekend, I am sure it will be a great success.
I don't think I have seen a photo of the new cars they are using on the Green line in Boston yet. It is a shame about the new cars being really noisy. I wonder why the railroad accepted them for service; surely they had a specification in the contract about noise levels, but perhaps not. It seems nowadays they no longer build a prototype of a class and test it thoroughly but build a lot at once that must mean that any modifications needed are hard or impossible to do.
Sorry I wasn't clear it is not the Hercules that has Newcastle on the stern but the paddle tug Eppleton Hall.
That is an interesting stationary steam engine and it seems we think alike on Eric's photo.
TOM Many thanks for the award, no bar debts and an open bar Saturday nite as well
Now Arriving on Track #1
Patron's Pix - Number One
Explanation: This series features fotos from the guys who have entertained us over years on the Original Thread and here at the Reborn "Our" Place . . . As long as these fotos "live" in the Ether, why not have ‘em redone right here Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown. The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Many fotos have disappeared from view from deliberate or inadvertent or inadvertent removal, expiration of storage on "host photo sites" or reasons unknown.
The first Customer fotos appeared on Page 17 of the Original Thread.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 24 May 2005, Page 17 of the Original Thread:
#1 Brantford's Via station a nice classic GT station built round about 1912 and still heavily used today by Via
Brantford's Via station a nice classic GT station built round about 1912 and still heavily used today by Via
#2 A small Whitt #2894 entering the east loop at our museum this shot is circa 1991 so a few years before I joined, however this is a car that I do love to operate. Hope we see some pictures and not just the red "x" of death.
A small Whitt #2894 entering the east loop at our museum this shot is circa 1991 so a few years before I joined, however this is a car that I do love to operate. Hope we see some pictures and not just the red "x" of death.
#3 This is former Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo NW2 #51 Owned now by shortline Ontario Southland serving several CN and CP spurs in Ontario. This shot is in St Thomas Ontario at the Elgin county rail museum. This loco is assigned to an ex CN spur in St Thomas and still runs on it's original prime mover.
This is former Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo NW2 #51 Owned now by shortline Ontario Southland serving several CN and CP spurs in Ontario. This shot is in St Thomas Ontario at the Elgin county rail museum. This loco is assigned to an ex CN spur in St Thomas and still runs on it's original prime mover.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 25 May 2005, Page 17 of the Original Thread:
#4 I'm posting a shot of 2766,4500 and our museums open car 327. This is on the corner of Queen & Bay for the 85th birthday parade of the TTC we lent them 327 for the day and she lead the parade of classic streetcars CLRV"S ,ALRV's and buses.
I'm posting a shot of 2766,4500 and our museums open car 327. This is on the corner of Queen & Bay for the 85th birthday parade of the TTC we lent them 327 for the day and she lead the parade of classic streetcars CLRV"S ,ALRV's and buses.
#5 Passenger Al Here's another museum Whitt shot for you.
Passenger Al Here's another museum Whitt shot for you.
Posted by trolleyboy Rob on 27 May 2005, Page 18 of the Original Thread:
#6 here's a shot of the Weston Road Niles car the museum had. Sorry the photo's black and white I think from the late Forties. The cars were retired in 48.
here's a shot of the Weston Road Niles car the museum had. Sorry the photo's black and white I think from the late Forties. The cars were retired in 48.
Hello everybody at the bar!
Ruth, since Tom promised a fully stocked kitchen, I'd like some veal in dill sauce today. A glass of pale ale will do well with that, I think.
Since my PC is about to clone itself into two, I'm still writing from work. No pictures and short posts. I will help hosting an MR event at our club this weekend, so after this post, I'll be off the ether until Monday. The clubs in the Texas - Oklahoma - Arkansas - Louisiana area get together for an Operating event every year. Our club is one of the hosts this weekend.
Tom, You have made me so interested in that old Railroad Magazine that I bought a couple of them on eBay yesterday, I just need to pay for them now, then they should give me some fun reading, I hope, in a week, or so.
Don't worry too much about building the subway on your Can-Am layout. Just put a "T" sign on one of your buildings, and it's done! That's what I plan to do on the club layout before I leave Dallas
Email is on the way.
I'll keep those passport links handy, if I ever get a use for them. Grrr!
Ron, Yes, "Black and Tan" is one of my favorites as well. I had an Irish one last Sunday in Boston. I had a feeling the drivers were quartered on the electrics, I'm glad Eric could confirm that.
Ah, you see, I love to travel. It's not as relaxing as it used to be, but I still look forward to every trip I make. It's nothing like the old days when my employer paid for Business Class and the airline upgraded across the Atlantic. Now that was travel! But it is still a great experience every time a plane takes off with me inside it.
Pete, The Green Line in Boston seems to get more and more new cars but there are still some of the older cars left. One of the stations (west of Downtown - that's as much as I remember) has a couple of museum cars on a track for display. The new cars are really noisy. They got me to think about the design of the new Coast Guard cutters we read about here last month. The cutters were designed by new CAD designer who knew nothing about ships; and I wonder if these cars are designed by kids knowing nothing about trains.
Don't feel bad about the Pullman naming; I just throw out the question hoping that someone around the bar would know the answer. On the other hand, I don't know anything about locomotive naming, but I can guess that there ought to have been many duplicate names across the nation.
A flowered steam loco! That's almost as crazy as the "Flying Pig" loco!
I think the "device" is a (semi-) stationary steam engine used in a logging camp. They have a name but I don't remember it at the moment.
I saw you got a good explanation of the history of "Hercules" by Tom. That doesn't explain, though, why it has Newcastle on the stern. But you are right; I would not have liked to be on it across the Atlantic. When I saw the first picture of it, I immediately got to think of the proverbial children's comic book tug boat.
Al, I agree with you about the Melbourne trams. They had doors on both sides and they just pulled a tarp down and put a wooden bar across the opening on the "wrong" side. The cars weren't turned at the terminating points I rode to, so they needed both doors.
Like most politicians, the "Governator" is both liked and disliked. My daughter calls him a "RINO" (Republican In Name Only) but I think overall he's doing a decent job.
Eric, I think some, if not all, of the "Train of Tomorrow" cars are still kept somewhere. I think I saw a picture of the observation car somewhere in a pretty bad condition. The engines were used as regular E6 (or 7) for a while but my guess is that those are gone by now.
My guess is that the engine is an AEM. I was going to guess an RC, but the number (924) that's scribbled on the sheet in front of the engineer doesn't match any Rc numbers. And I don't think SJ engineers have a badge like that on their shirts; to me that's typical American.
There are many more pictures of model cars like that on my web site. Take a look sometimes.
What on earth prompted the idea to paint the locomotives black in Sweden? That's how I understood your note a little while back. They were all brown (in modern days - the early where grey), because that would harmonize with the nature. The orange wasn't bad at all, and I even got used to the blue, but black?
Lars, stumbled on the keyboard, eh? I liked your book covers, especially the "Scenes Along the Rails"; that's a scene worth modeling. And that beaver on the Canadian Pacific logo; it's a classic!
CM3, Yes, it was a B&<something> in Northampton. There is a railroad bridge across one of the main streets, and it was clearly painted on that bridge. I have not had time to get my pictures out of the camera, so I don't remember if it was an "A" or am "M", but I'll get there eventually.
Ya'll be good now and have a great weekend!
Per
Good day again Tom and fellow members of Our Place. Are your glasses empty? If so, have another on me.
The following came off the Internet Movie Database (IMDb). I don't know how to access it, but it sounds like something worthwhile persuing
The Great Story of The Canadian Railway, 29 September 2006
Author: blamar from Victoria, BC
I do not know why this show is not for sale. As a student of Canadian History, this is one of the better tellings of how Canada came together as a country. It shows with all their foibles, issues, and faults the fathers of confederation and the compromises made to unite the country. It illustrates the hardships of the surveyors and the navies who charted out and built the rail-lines. Finally it relates what the purpose of the railroad was to move people and products joining the west to the east and supporting Canada's development of the west. No car chases, hardly anything blows up, just a good story about people on an epic scale.
Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!
Just a quickie to let you know that I probably will not be around this weekend. Got a house full of relatives coming in . . . Things are rather uncertain for next week too.
Sorry I messed up my morning post - I edited it! Guess that's what comes of being in a hurry, huh Of course it is! I shudda known bettAH!
Ruth my deAH - set 'em up with a round 'n I'm in the mood for a double hit of JD on the rocks! Then, I'm outta here . . .
Can always count on Shane to pick up on the details of those book covAHs! Makes it worth the while to know they are appreciated.
Honest-***, I KNEW the Forbes Field answer! Really did . . . had read it somewhere 'n nevAH forgot it. Also some outstanding info provided to Eric on the Erie!!
Ron - We used on of those "instant" passport renewal services some years ago 'n it worked for us. Sure it costs - guess that's the choice one makes when weighing whether you want to make the trip or not. We did - so we paid the price.
Lemme leave these with ya, then I really gotta skedaddle . . . heading ovAH to Newark to pick up the first batch . . . <ugh>
Canadian Pacific in Color, Vol 1 - Eastern Lines
Canadian National Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment, Vol 1
Canadian National Color Guide to Freight & Passenger Equipment, Vol 2
BC Rail Collection (DVD)
Minnesota - Ontario Iron Ore Railroads
Good day Tom. Beverages of choice all around.
Pete: My guess is it was used to haul boats up a ramp out of the water. Great pics at the SF maritime museum I lived in SF for 38 years and don't recall seeing that machine. A great city by the way, but too expensive to live in.
The museum at Temuco didn't exist 15 years ago, so this will be my first visit.
Tom: The problem with black is it always looks dirty, as do other colors when dirty. I don't think RR's these days spend much money to clean their equipment before it goes out on the line, except maybe for the premier passenger trains.
Thanks for the passport links. I checked and it will cost well over $200 for 3-5 day turn-a-round service.
Per: I hate to travel. I don't like air travel, hustling around with baggage, connections, etc, but I am looking forward to the Chile trip. If and when I go, it will be for a minimum of 30 days, so I can take it easy and enjoy at my own pace. No Cook's tours for me. Been there and done that.
CM3: Interesting facts about the Erie RR and wide loads.
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please (New England Breakfast Blend) round for the house and $ for the juke box. Gas went up to $3.15 yesterday, let's see that's a 26-cent increase in less than a week.
Jan - You did good; Steam, Steel and Limiteds is truly a keeper. I bought mine loooong ago and the covers are almost off of it. The neat part about instruction books is that they have a lot of railroad-specific information in them. One of my favorites is a list I have from the PRR that is titled "Interline Passenger Cars That Can Be Operated at Speeds in Excess of 100 Miles Per Hour." It is a supplement to the NY Division ETT.
DD1 - PRR, black? They called it, of course, Brunswick Green; the formula was about 99.5 percent black with .5 percent green. Anyway, you doubtless remember how dark it looked. However, in certain lights it looked green. It got greener as it faded. I did an HO EMD SW in faded green based on a photograph I had -people didn't believe it, but there was the evidence.
Pete - Crewe man, indeed.
Allan - Thanks for the kind words.
Eric - The Erie has more than a few dedicated followers. I got interested in it years ago.
A couple of Erie anecdotes for y'all at the bar.
One of you raised a question about the "Diamondbugs." My father-in-law spent some of his formative years along the Erie near the bustling metropolis of Eden, NY. The motorcars carried the mail on that part of the Erie. Generally they did o.k., but every so often they'd get tired and die on Dayton Hill. A steam engine would be pressed into service to drag the car up the hill. He recalled the steam engines were "much better" than the motorcar.
Second, Erie was noted for its ability to handle high and wide loads. This was because it was originally built as a broad gauge line. The clearances remained after everything became standard gauge. Thus the ability for them to carry monstrous loads. John Long, the Erie's photographer took some pictures of a lot of this. I have not bothered to do a search, but I'll bet some of his stuff is on the net somewhere.
Several Erie-related books you might enjoy include.
Charles Francis Adams - Chapters of Erie. An old one but a book that gives the reader contemporary insight into some of the Erie's financial excesses. You thought the Mentor Bank and Trust was bad? Hoo boy!
Edward Hungerford - Men of Erie. Immediate postwar account.
John G. Steele - The Scarlet Woman of Wall Street -Similar to Adams but more up-to-date.
Maury Klein - Jay Gould - Essential book on Gould.
Alvin Staufer - Erie Power - THE book on the subject.
That ought to keep Santa busy for awhile as some of these are o/p.
Now for the answer to the home plate quiz. The plate from Forbes Field is in one of the buildings at the University of Pittsburgh that was built on the site of the ball yard. IIRC, there is a segment of the LF wall from Forbes in another building. This is, of course, where Mazeroski hit the World Series winning HR in 1960. I remember seeing all of this stuff when having to be at Pitt for meetings, conferences, classes, etc.
Incidentally, back long ago, the Bureau of Mine HQ was at 4800 Forbes Ave. They had a rail siding behind the building where they used to keep Mine Rescue cars - talk about useful information!
Per - Northampton, MA - probably B&M and CV. The ORG I need is back at the house. I remember seeing an article somewhere abt. The NYS&W coal cars. I'll start looking for that one.
Lars was by with observations, comments and more media material. Street Running is a good program. The segments on the old NKP trackage in Erie are useful because that is all gone now. 1912 box car book? Hmmm - we must look into this. Thnaks for posting that one.
Taconite? Let' s see - Boris, the lantern please. ah, here it is. This volume is truly for the Captians of Industry at the bar (you know who you are).
E.W. Davis. Pioneering with Taconite. This was published in 1964 by the Minnesota Historical Society. Davis was there and this first-hand story reads quite well. The book has a wealth of diagrams and some excellent picture sof vintage equipment, lake boats, and machinery. Boris says you may be able to interlibrary loan it through your local library. It's a good 'un that not too many people know about. He's does well for someone who barely knows his letters.
OSP sent RR Magazine covers. The B&O one? We know better; it was a cover from a Mentor and Southern Narrow Gauge annual Report - I'd know it anywhere. Glad you enjoyed the Johnny Most stuff - he smoked like a chimney and his voice reflected that as you remember.
Work safe
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, it's time for a mugga Joe with a jolt, a round for the house, treats for the crittAHs, small jar of PPF for Boris - and - the change is YOURS!
WHAT IS THIS!?!?!?! Our Bar Chandler has had his bar tab FORGIVEN!?!?!?!? Good Grief Charlie Brown, what next?!?!?!? Free beer for the guy who let his wife catch the bat!?!?!?!?!? <quadruple geesh>
Well <begrudgingly> I suppose some sort of well wishes go out to the Wolfman for being such a steady hand with the posts around here, in spite of some flu ‘n other oddities that seem to strike him. Hmmmmm, don't suppose whatever is "biting" you is coming out of that bag you are so attached to, huh <uh oh>
Congratulations on being the first to receive Cap'n Tom's ABOVE ‘n BEYOND AWARD!
Now to the comments for the day from me:
Eric, Eric, Eric - it's a "buck three ninety eight!" <quadruple geesh> NOT $3.98!! <groan>
What kind of a loco If you mean steam, electric or diesel - I'll say electric.
Those Erie Diamondbugs were built by the McKeen Motor Car Company between 1906 ‘n 1922. Check out this link for some great "stuff" on ‘em.
http://wnyrails.org/railroads/erie/erie_sal_mckeen.htm
Shane - a great conclusion to a most entertaining series of captivating nonsense! 5- Salute to our Coalminer Friend!
Pete - Da Bossman adequately explained the whereabouts of the trophy. So exactly what is it you are trying to start <hmmmmmmmm> Always lurking in the shadows trying to stir the pot. Watch it Batman, OR we'll unleash those mini-fanged creatures in your direction! <ahhhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa>
Those tugboat shots almost make it out to be toy-like. Have a few thoughts on that contraption in your photo spate - but will hold off ‘til I see if anyone else "bites."
Allan - When the final WS game ended, I clicked the TV off . . . but since they were in Colorado, I didn't expect to see much of anything other than the typical celebratory stuff. Saw on the news a bit of a problem up in Boston, but that's just the times we live in. I feel we should shoot ‘em on the spot - but of course that ain't gonna happen. So in absence of my kinda law ‘n order, we just have to live with it. <groan> <grin>
Cap'n Tom - Enjoyed the nickel's worth of those great magazine covers! Always a pleasure to gaze at ‘em - wouldn't mind finding some to browse through. One day I'm just gonna have to get off my dead stern section ‘n begin looking around for a RR library, like you have out your way. Surely there's one in this town . . .
I see the Larsman Mobile has pulled up with these offerings!
Best of 1989 (DVD)
The ARA Standard Box Car of 1932
Taconite Haulers on Minnesota's Mesabi Iron Range
Street Running (DVD)
Scenes Along the Rails, Vol 1 - The Anthracite Region of Pennsylvania, Part 1
Ruth, we've got some <ahem> admin matters to attend to on your break! {ooooooh>
The first Friday of the month has arrived! Begin the celebration of week's end by ordering a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from Our Menu Board - ‘n while you're waiting, draw a mugga freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee along with a pastry or three from The Mentor Village Bakery case!
It's been a glorious week here in mid-continent USA with simply beautiful days ‘n evenings. Leaves have turned ‘n the colors are brilliant. Probably only another week left before brown sets in - but right now it's just a pleasure being outdoors. Love it, love it, love it!
Finished the aeration of the south forty yesterday - had to first pick up a ton of leaves that seemingly never stop falling - then the bride dumped 100 pounds of grass seed on our less than acceptable patch of green <lawn> so we're ready for whatever is to come!
Did I tell y'all that I love this time of year
The first "Above ‘n Beyond Award" goes to Pete (pwolfe) <aka: Bat Man - Wolfman - Bar Chandler> for maintaining his place at the bar in spite of flu-like symptoms for the past several days. The guy stuck with us ‘n didn't let things like flying bats in the house, neighbors dog in the house, the chills, aches in the joints ‘n general malaise stop him for keeping things going at the bar!
For all you do - YOUR BAR TAB HAS BEEN FORGIVEN!
Thursday - 01 Nov 2007:
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 9:06 AM & 12:54 PM: It's now Oh-Fish-UL - "Our" Place retains the IMWDDT trophy for the 2nd consecutive year as a result of beating The Second Class Saloon in our Annual Dart's Challenge ‘n Grudge Match! Congratulations to the WINNAHS - open bar ‘n galley on Saturday nite for the teams ‘n their babes ‘n ladies <hopefully the two will never meet!> <uh oh>
A special recognition to our Ace Reporter for another year of literary genius - most worthy of a Pulitzer, fer sure, fer sure. But Throckmorton Pulitzer <owner of the now defunct Tucker & De Lorean Automotive Dealerships> has passed on to the junk yard in the sky, leaving behind only a fond memory of better times. <alas>
Thank you, CM3 Shane (coalminer3) for this year's series of entertaining reports! Five- Salute to our WVA Connection!
Much appreciation for the insights regarding North ‘n South Stations in Beantown. Jogged my memory - or in other words, released those long term images from many decades past.
Johnny Most! I used to listen to him for years ‘n years ‘n years. The guy was <and is> simply LEGEND in the sports broadcasting world. He's gone, but that voice - the excitement - all of it - still LIVES!
Cousy was The Man way before the term became popular! And I can still hear - Havilcek stole the ball . . . Game #7, ECF (1965) . . . Was it REALLY that long ago!?!?!
Thanx for the round ‘n quarters!
Lars (LoveDomes) at 10:16 AM: You "done good" Manager Lars in calling for the Erie Day at the bar! I think the turnout was splendiferous ‘n those that contributed did so in the spirit of the day! Well done, Mate! 5- to our Manager!
Yeah, we have ALWAYS had one or three who somehow never quite got to the point of recognizing the efforts others put forth to keep this joint moving along with Classic Trains material. Just the way it IS - so best not to get your knickers in a KNOT over it!
Yes, Leon, I know I am early. I would like to have my steak and bisquits with curly fries tonight. A round for the house!
Missed last night because of Halloween and some other things. Went to see my heart doctor today. Everything was okay.
Tom – Is the Train of Tomorrow preserved? I checked and found that UP still has at least some of the cars. I don't know about the locomotive though.Where is the schedule for the Mentor Villages Visiting Nurses ‘n Go-Go Dancers Associations? I checked but couldn’t find it. Erie Railroad! Was a pretty small railroad but very interesting! Their drumheads were kind of “simple”. Nice picture of the Erie GP-7!Railroad Magazines from the 50’s! It would be very interesting to read them. Lars – Three ninety eight? I think I’ll keep them! A number of interesting books, all about Erie! Diamondbugs, who built those motor cars? Erie Lackawanna Trackside, looks interesting too! Quite a few books about Erie!DL – Thanks for the link to the St. Pancras pictures! Interesting station! I guess St. Pancras is where one can catch the Eurostar trains? JanOlov – Interesting article on Erie. So the “Berkshires” changed Erie?! Certainly very impressive locomotives!You found some good and interesting books on ebay! I have been buying some books there too. Per – Sorry, but I have no clue where that home plate is hiding/located. I agree, black electrics is a no-no. I don’t like it at all. Nice model car! Very nice. CM3 – Thanks for the 2nd day/match report! It explains a lot of the little I can remember. And after reading the report from the third match I know why I have been feeling like I am catching a cold for a few days. It was kind of cold sitting on that open car all the way from the basement of Our Place to Old Sludgy! Thank you for those excellent reports!! It is amazing how much happened the last few days of last week!Pete – No, black is not a good color for any locomotives. I know, steam locomotives are black and that is okay. But electrics? No! Good idea to post Al’s old Erie post again! So Boris told you something that will give you a pay rise? Probably something about admin work!Nice pictures from San Francisco! That device? I don’t know, but I would guess it was used to power a crane of some kind. Maybe on board a ship.Ron – Good to see you again! Hope everything goes well for your son to pick up his truck!
I am looking forward to see some pictures of your model! The answer to your question about the (Swedish) side rod electrics is “Yes”! The drivers are quartered as on steamers. Be careful with your back! Rob – How long was 107? 75% wood and 30 tons means it was a good size car. Allan – I am sure you are correct about the Melbourne trams. Doors on both sides was standard for many years on the streetcars in Stockholm, Sweden, for the very same reason you mentioned.
Finally a Quiz. What kind of locomotive is this engineer operating?
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