Hello Tom and all in
Light breakfast for me please. Still been ratehr busy and trying to ctahc up on the recent good stuff (5 or 6 pages still to reveiw) - hope to be back soon with a proper post (esp to tell you all abotu the great movie I saw on the big screen last night - Whistle in the Night - 1947 short film probably by the Assoc of American Railroads - superb stuff.
Anyway - quick query - does anyone know of a website that gives scenic guides to Amtrak routes - eg what you can see from the train on partiucular routes? I have an aquaintance who is going on soem sort of organsied cross the US by train trip and I was going to recommend that to him. I'm sure I found a window gazer type guide when I too the C-Zephyr a few years back but can't find it now.
I just thought that if anyone knows where to look it will be the regulars at Our Place!!
Regards to all
DL
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, a big sugar cured ham sandwich, please. An ice cold Keith's!
Kind of busy day here today! I did not have a chance to catch up today, that will happen this weekend, but I found a lot of interesting stuff to read!
Only 167 days until the 3rd Annual Rendezvous!
Tom – I am not complaining about the discomfort. It is kind of part of the game in this case. All I have to do is take my medicine and wait for a few weeks and the doctors will take care of it. I don’t see any problems. The surgeon explained the problem very good. I was concerned when they said they were going to operate this week and I was still taking the blood thinner. I am looking forward to receive the RR Book from CM3! It has been a strange number of days since Thanksgiving not visiting “Our” Place before I go to bed. But now I am back.It sounds hopeful that your friend still is kind of normal after having his gall bladder removed!Very nice pictures from your Branson train ride! I agree, not as spotless as Alaska RR, but still nice. I liked to see the former MARC #83 again! It is like an old friend. I saw it in Washington on an almost daily basis for several months and it was mostly sitting across the platform from the X2000. I think post #3,000 will happen Dec 13, the Santa Lucia Day! Posted by CM3!Lars – Happy to see you again, Sir! In a way I am glad that all this stuff, the heart and my gall bladder, are taken care of now before I retire! I think 2008 will be a great year! Thanks for the nice words!Nice C&O book covers! The second one, with the kitten, is for my wife! Ron – It seems like you have a similar medical history as I do! I started taking my blood thinner after a triple bypass surgery last July. Then everything went extremely well. I am not worried at all about my coming surgery in 4-6 weeks. Looking forward to it so I can go back to eat food I really like instead of all this fat-free stuff. Sounds good about your model engine. I’ll see if I can find any pictures from the inside to send to you f you want to detail it.Fergie – Hope you didn’t have to dance too much this last night! CM3 – Thanks for the round! Rob – How did you figure out that encounter with bikini models? For heavens sake, don’t say anything! Officially we were going to look for some nice streetcars!Interesting article about the Canadian diesels! Is there still any GMD1 in service or preserved? CPA didn’t have a six axle truck, did it? I am sure you mean a six wheel truck. Anyway, it looks a lot like FL9! FPA4 is also an interesting locomotive! Pete – I can control my pain pretty good so I am not complaing and in a few weeks the doctors will take care of the problem itself. You are right about this bar, I can eat anything I want whenever I want! Nice pictures from ExpoRail! What kind of vehicle is in the first picture? It looks like a truck with some minor equipment on it. It also seems to have a trolley pole on it. I think I have seen another picture of it some time before.Allan – That is what the doctors thought should be applicable in my case, key-hole operation and go home the following day. Which would fit me perfect. Don’t worry, I’ll be very careful.
Nynäshamn 1980, in the old country.
Eric
Okay gents more bedtime reading or morning newspaper eyestrain depending on which way you prefer to look at it.What can i say when I feel teh need to comunicate I open the floodgates.
CLASSIC DIESEL's#41ONLY IN CANADA YOU SAY PART TWO
Okay here's another look at some of the more unusual one off production runs that came out of the locomotive erecting shops in Canada for the railways located NOB as Tom would say.
As I mentioned in part one , all the big players of the locomotive building market paired up with or built their own assembly plants in Canada to avoid the associated costs of tarrifs on locomotives built in the USA, all but GE.As I said the CLC company of Kingston was building Baldwin and Lima steam engines for their contract partners in stateside for decades. So once the diesel bug bit baldwins few sales to CPR were built by CLC. Also Fairbanks Morse set up shop at CLC for their line of railroad diesels so along with the H series roadswitchers C-liners and trainmasters that were built all to US spec a couple odd balls were also constructed.
The first one was an order for 5 trainmasters for the CPR. Not unusual in any respect other than the CPR ordered them with the optional 2750 pound per hour steam generators which were mounted in a full width of the walkway hood in front of the cab giving them a hammerhead appearance. these were the only FM trainmasters built with this optional feature CPR #8901-8904, after about ten yeasr the CPR discontinued the trains they were pulling and they joined their 15 'normal" sisters in the frieght pool when this happened they were rebuilt with a conventional hood. I haven't got any pictures of these locomotives sorry.
The second semi odd ball were 10 passenger C-liners CLC built for the CNR Super continental,5 A's and 5 B's. These had the full passenegr control features and the 2750 lbs per hour steam gen sets for car heating mounted in the back of the car body, this called for a 5 axle format to carry the weighttwo axle BB front truck and a six axle ( all powered ) rear truck.Thes were designated CPA , CPB 16-5's or a C-liner passenger "A" or "B" 1600hp with 5 axles. similar units were built by FM for teh NYC and the LIRR and the New haven but those were all the larger 2000 or 2400 hp varients so had different motor size and load ratings so the 1600hp units were exclusive to the CNR.
Builders photo from the delson collection no idea te photographer.
Next we move onto the favourite of Canadian alcofans or alcophiles depending on one's prefered designation.thes are the RS10's and the RS18's and their various subvarients. Both locomotives look alike but are different in use and in internals. The RS10 is essentially a full height hooded RS2 same 244 prime mover, but with a full height hood for making work on the prime mover much easier in the elements up here. Most RS10's were fitted with a smaller fuel tank than the RS18 and had lighter weight trucks and wieght for secondary mains and branchlines. they were dual mode in that all the CPR one's were steam generator equiped for commuter train service.The RS10's were always set up to run long hood forward as well as the steam generators were located in the short hood.The RS18 is te MLW take on the Alco RS11. Same basic dimentions but different hood end treatments, no classic Alco nose notches. They came in various set ups but they all used the improved 251 series prime movers,late units were built with factory short hoods.PGE and Cartier ordered the factory low hood units. the CPR rebuilt all their RS18's in the 1980's to short hood configuration in their own shops. it was one of the most wide spread locomotive types of the 50's and 60's in Canada with only the GP7-9 and the SW1200's more numerous. CNR had 150 units, CPR 100 BCRail/PGE 60, Roberville and Sagunay 24 the last ten built with short hoods and the Cartier had 30 all shorthood models. The RS18 was buolt from 1957-1962. The RS10's were built from 1954-56 and rostered 60 units on the CN 45 on the CPR, 2 on The Ontario Northland. All are gone from the big road rosters now, many went on to the various shortlines some in the US some in Canada. several are at the Delson Museum most notably RS10 1400 and ONR unit and the only RS10 still in existance.The CNR rebuilt 12 of their RS18's in the early 70's with A1A-A1A trucks for service on PEI's and Nova Scotia's light branchlines. these replaced smaller RSC13 units that were worn out the A1A trucks all came from scrapped RSC13's. these units were also lightend and downrated from 1800hp to 1400hp and redesignated as RSC14's by the CN shops that did the conversions.
CN RS18 in troonto's Mimico yard photo from the Patterson collection
CP RS10 in Montreal's St luc yarfrom the Patterson collection
CP rebuilt RS18U in welland Ontario.
RS18U in the service of new owner Ontario Southland St thomas Ontario
The next two one offs were built by MLW strictly for the CNR. the first were four little 1000hp roadswitchers built to run on Ontario's and the maritimes ligth branchlines. they were built in conjunction with the GMD1's from GMD as a test to see which manufacterers units were more viable. The RSC24 ws essentially a 1000hp S3 switcher with multiple unit controls and a small electrical cabinet mounted in a tiner shorthood behind the cab. they ran on a short wheel base A1a-A1A truck built by Dofasco. The GMD1's from GMD proved to be more flexable and only te four RSC24's were built. The second small MLW roadswitcher intended for branchline use was the RSC13.A light weight A1A-A1A trucked unit built on the RS2 plateform, similar to US built RSC2's but they had a slightly higher long hood and a difernt truck in this case Dofasco built versions. they were rated at 1250hp and spent their lives 1953-1975 in the maritimes until worn out they were replaced by the prevoiously disscussed RS18 rebuilds.
RSC24 builders photo from the patterson Collection
RSC13 in PEI also from the Patterson collection.
The final locomotive I will cover in this insatllment is another CNR built only MLW product. many american's are familiar with these locomotives as several have turned up on Dinner trains ro disgised as operating musuem pieces around the US. These are the FPA 4's a stretched passenger FA cab unit they look like regular FA / FPA 1's or 2's. The main difference is internal. CNR loveeed their passenger FA's they didn't love the 244 prime movers so they did what the US roads didn't they got MLW to p[roduce the robust FPA series locomotive make it 5 feet longer and power it with the new more reliable 251 prime mover. these locomotives built in 1957-58 lasted into the early 80's running for VIA rail. As i said many still ply their trade in dinner trains stateside. The B&O histroical society even purchased an operable one which does excursion service painted and numbered as a B&0 FA2.
FPA4 in the latter 1960's passenger scheme. Seen in Winnipeg while in Supercontinental service.From the patterson collection.
enjoy Rob
So here I am finally <grin> so far so good. Ruth could you be so kind as to ring up another round for me thank-you. Oh and some of the usual treats for the our place critters and non-paid staff, thanks.
ONLY IN CANADA YOU SAY PART # 1CLASSIC DIESELS #40
Canada in the late 40's and 50's had some very heavy duties on items bought by companies for use in Canada, so very early on the locomotive builders alls crambled to open plants or at least get a Canadian manufacturing firm on hand to porduce their products for the Canadian market.Alco for years had MLW ( Montreal locomotive works ) producing their steam designs for the various railroads and indusrial lines in Canada, so when diesilization began in earnest up here ALCO/MLW already had a leg up.Likewise the CLC plant in Kingston Ontario ( Canadian locomotive Company ) was already building Baldwin and Lima designed steamers for CN and CP, so Baldwin instantly began using CLC for their diesel designs.Likewise Fairbanks Morse also contracted with CLC to build their locomotive designs. GM not having a candain sudsidiary went one step further and built teh GMD plant in London Ontario which began producing the EMD catalogue for the Candian market.For whatever reason GE did not open a candain plant so they sold few locomotives NOB the few 44 ton and 70 ton switchers that were produced for Canada were geberally shipped accross as kits for final assembly at the railway shops on the CNR. CPR just said no. As a result none of the larger U series of loco's ever found a market up here. Not until free trade lifted most tarrifs did the GE plant make any significant dent in the candain locomotive market which was dominated by MLW and later EMD products. So this post and part two will deal with the oddballs the Candian only units produced by GMD , MLW and CLC enjoy.
The GMD 1. This small light wieght roadswitcher was designed by GMD for use on the light wieght branchlines CNR inherrited from the old CnoR and GTP lines on the prairies where 55 and 70 lbs rail was not an uncomon thing. Only CNR and the NAR ( Northern Alberta railway ) satbbled these little road switchers. As built theyu had A1A-A1A truck set ups with the middle axel being an unpowered idler. later CN rebuilt them to BB-BB configuration both theirs and the NAR ones when CN officially assumed control of the NAR in the 1980's today only 26 of them remain in service mostly as hump and transfer service jobs. Of note these 1950's vintage engines (at least 50) have been sold and shipped to the Cuban state railways to formally diesilize their operations. Fitting I suppose 1950's cars on their roads and 1950's diesels on their railtoad.
The stats:1200hp 567C pime mover L numbered 1000-1082 inclucivly 33" idler wheels with 40" powered wheels all built between 1952-58
GMD1 at mack yard in Toronto Ontario in 1998 on this locomotives 40th birthday,used for yard to yard transfer runs and hump yard switching.
The SW1200RS On the surface this Canada only model from GMD would appear to be a standard SW1200 switcher. It is to a point the major difference bieng that they sit on flexicoil road trucks instead of slow speed switcher trucks. again these were dual mode road and yard service locomotives primarily to handle heavy trains on in town trackage that was not capable of holding up larger roadswitchers. it also freed up GP7's and 9's for passenger and mainline frieght duties.The other "spottinbf feature is the prominent "eyebrow" headlight arrangements. front and back on CN units only on the front of CP units. Only CN and CP ordered these engines though by now some have been sold off into the US for industrial and shortline uses.
CPR SW1200RS at Kineer yard ( former TH&B ) ontop of the Niagara escarpment in Hamilton Ontario.
CN SW1200RS leased to Railink, Hamilton Ontario Shortline locomotive shows off it's rear eyebrow.
The last unit type covered in this sitting is the RS23. This is a ubique to Canada roaadswitcher produced by MLW. It is a 1000hp raodswitcher built from their S13 switcher model. the onkly difference is the use of AAR typr B road trucks and gearing instead of standard blunt ALCO switcher trucks. again these were used for light duty lines and for transfer runs. Only the CPR bought this type 60 units in all. Most were found in eastern Canada on the Dominion Atlantic Lines. all have now been sold off for scrap or top shorlines.
Two former CP RS23;'s now owned by the Ontario Southland railway. these switch the city of Guelph Ontario and are based at Guelph Junction.Note the wonderfull TH&B inpired paint scheme the OSR uses.
Enjoy Rob
Good day again folks.
Tom- Howdy hi there again. I thouight that I had ordered a Keith's as well as offered to help unload now I'm confused mind you this time ayear confusion is hardly unusual for me. So giving another shot eh ? mighty neighbourly of you. Okay lemme think,update me to dec 24th oh and I think Lars will be the one to do it Sounds like it is likely a restoration project if the bits'n'pieces are that close at hand. You've got to stop wearing that powdered wig and fake beauty mark set that Boris gave you last Christmas, it makes you look too much like Ruth
So I'll order up another round of Keith's all around for everyone, gotta keep that beer from going skunky
Rob
Good evening Leon. Another Keith's and a round for da boyz as well
pete-Good thing you never met Larry , he was a character of sorts, mind you his pention for solid foot wear ( cement ) have sunk his possibility of rising in the ranks over at the second class
Interesting trolley shots ,the small outside piece of equipment looks to have been a rail bonder of sorts possibly. Nice inside shot of thelocomotive with the golden chariot sight seeing car. I'm not sure what that other piece of equipment was however, possible used for wire repair.
Allan-I'm glad you liked the cabeese and the other pictures.So you're the warbird fan ?n If you get a chance try to log onto the Canadian Warplane Herritage museum's web sight. they ahve a wonderfull collection of aircraft.
G'day Gents!
Thought I'd catch up on a few things tonite, as Leon takes care of the bar . . .
First:
CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTEST
Wonder who will make the 3,000th Post at the bar Cite the date AND the person who will make that memorable Post . . . So let's see who can come up with the answer!
CONTEST CLOSES Monday!! So let's get a move on Gents . . .
Thus far we have:
Lars sez: Dec 7th (Tom)
Rob sez: Jan 1st (???)
Pete sez: Dec 9th (Lars)
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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative)
Thursday - Nov 29th:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:59 AM: Old dependable arrived as scheduled along with more Chessie covers! <sweet>
Many thanx for participating in our CONTEST - ‘n for the round too!
Ron (DD1) at 10:02 AM: I know what you mean about stimulating the brain cells <few that I have, that is!> as I'm slowly getting "into" my long-delayed project of constructing a subway system beneath Can-Am City. It's a labor of love - just gotta GETAROUNDTUIT!
As mentioned yesterday - this place is NOT supposed to generate stress on the part of our customers. You Post "stuff" when you can, but stopping by to say "howdy" ‘n ordering a drink is certainly just fine too! Remember - inclusiveness ‘round here is defined pretty much as making sure you recognize those who have taken the time to recognize you. Simple enough, eh Youbetcha!
Missed the CONTEST!
Thanx for the visit ‘n round!
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 2:51 PM: The not-so-ancient mariner returneth! Winds ‘r howlin' - seas are buildin' ‘n it's time to rock ‘n roll! Provides a different definition to the term, eh
It was sea conditions like you described that made me realize what leg's are also useful for - bracing one's self while in the ‘rack' . . . <uh oh>
Really appreciate the visit, business ‘n report from the sea!
See ya when the wind shifts - hopefully sooner than later!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:55 PM: Always find the time to swing by IF there's a ‘puter within arm's grasp! Appreciate the thoughts . . . .
Many thanx for the quarters ‘n round . . .
Rob (trolleyboy) at 2:56 PM ‘n 3:06 PM: Interesting thoughts ‘n ramblings from our Ontario Connection. I wasn't concerned about the avatar until YOU brought it up! Nothing like drawing ill-advised attention, eh <uh oh>
Actually, I got it from a site where there were NO prohibitions regarding use . . . but of course, how does one ever know who has "dibs" when in the Ether Concern "duly noted," as I used say to subordinates ‘n ordinates <huh> "back in my day"!
Thanx for participating in HALF of the CONTEST! You were supposed to pick not only the date, but the person as well! <geesh> Actually, I think you may want to revise your guesstimate - as we're already at 2,913 Posts (as I type this) - won't take that long to reach 3,000. So, try again!
The trucks ‘n wheels for that Branson Scenic Railway car were located a short distance from where it had been put on blocks
Hi Tom and all,
Set em` up Leon, Tui`s all round for the crew!
Tom. Great set of photo`s of your Branson trip, together with the continuation of the Canadian RR`s and the nostalgic RR magazine covers, all very interesting and entertaining!
Eric. Was getting a bit worried not seeing you on site, we are having a very similar medical history, had my Gall stones out 12yrs ago by key-hole surgery, can`t even see where it was done now! Anyway, you take care until your op!
Mike. Thanx for the URL`s to the pics and the David P. Morgan write up, nice to see what your Pop took part in.
CM3. Nice to see you again mate!
Lars. A really great selection of bookcovers from the Larsmobile, nice pics of the B&O and theC&O. See the Patriots got a fright not long ago!
Pete. Saw most of the A4`s at Newcastle, Waverley and York, and some at Doncaster when they were having a major service or repairs, used to save my paper round money to pay for the trips. I never seemed to take an interest in the A3`for some reason. Saw a Duchess once at Euston, I think it was D of Montrose? Enjoyed all your pics and info, nice trolley pics and those nice one`s of Alan`s. Thanks for that great nostalgic painting of the A3 on the King Edward bridge in Newcastle, it brought back some great old memories for me I can tell you. Yes, they used the Mozzies in the Pathfinder role to guide the heavy bombers to their target by dropping flares.
Dan. Nice to see you on board, glad the B & T info was of help!
Rob. Nice selection of trolley and steam pics and the "Cabeese" on the Foto thread,
Jan. Nice to see you popped in, try not to burn the midnight oil too much mate!
Ron. Gave you some misinformation on my last post about the Mosquito, it was the Beaufighter that they callad "Whispering death". they were very similar twin engined planes, the Beaufighter was all metal though, and that gun was a 57mm, 6 pounder cannon used in a tank buster role, the USAF used Mosquito`s as well in the recce role, the old memory plays tricks at times! A really great selection of RR postage stamps you put on for us, had a full set of all the Brit rail standard steam loco`s GPO stamps once, but like my old train spotting books they have gone AWOL as well. Interesting info on the Chile seat sizes, see some airlines are starting to weigh in larger size passengers, nice pics of the Chile trams, seats and model loco`s>
Fergie. Nice to see you back on board again.
Tom. PS; I must have just missed a "Tweeting"? Thanx mate!
See ya, Allan
Hi Tom and all.
I see TOM as given you the afternoon off RUTH so a pint of Bathams and one for yourself.
RON Many thanks for those railroads on the postage stamps they came out very well. There is some great artwork on the stamps,really like the GG1 on the Congressional 33c stamp.
I have 2 sets of Royal Mail stamps, one set of 5 features the black and white photography of C.T. Gifford of steam locomotives in British Railways service and one set of 5 color photos of steam locomotives on preserved lines.
Glad the materials for your model have arrived, I will look forwards to seeing photos as the model is built.
ERIC Real sorry to hear you has had health problems. Really hope that you are not in too much pain and you are restored to full health very soon. At least at the bar you can eat what ever you want.
Many thanks for the photo of the Branson F Unit in service earlier in its career.
LARS Many thanks for the meaning of Boatswain and Coxswain. I looked the meaning of ‘swain' and it said lover was a bit so I thought I would ask a sailor.
Many thanks for the C&O covers from the Larsman Bookmobile. I would have liked to have seen a loco in the Chessie colors as in the 3rd book and you can almost hear the steamer on the C&O Coal and color cover.
FERGIE Thanks for the origin of boss coming from Bos'n, I did not know that.
Keep safe in those gales. What is a ‘240T heading"
CM3 Looking forward to your post tomorrow.
ROB I have not met Larry from the Second Class saloon but I have heard sad tales of him, and I though Manager Lars was a hard taskmaster. Unfortunately I am only allowed near the dipping tub under strict supervision.
I shall look forward to your photos of the Newfoundland Railway preserved equipment. I will post some trolley photos from Exporail at the end of my post; perhaps you can help to tell me what the works ones were used for.
TOM It is a competition this time. I will say December 9th by Manager Lars for post 3,000 and it could be on page150. Is the prize a crash course on ‘Admin Duties'.
Thanks for the info on #50
I can see why those weather patrols were not the most popular duty. I guess only those who have done it truly know what is like trying to keep station in the North Atlantic during a winter storm. I would think that the pilots were very appreciative but I wonder how many, if any, passengers on the airliners even realized that there was sailors far below them braving rough seas to keep them safe.
Talking about missing a ride on the Newfoundland Railway reminded me of a couple of lines in the UK I missed, I thought "I'll ride them another time" but the branch lines closed before I had the chance.
Glad you liked the links, I thought they were good. The Newfoundland Railway had some good-looking engines. In the railway artists link, I really liked the ‘Dirty Town 2' painting it has captured a wet night in the West Midlands in steam days perfectly.
Many thanks for the photos from the dome car on the Branson Scenic Railway; it is indeed some good scenery. I was thinking, that there are not all that many railroad tunnels in Missouri.
I had to go to town earlier and picked up Railroads in World War II, only have had a glance through,but it seems good, liked the wartime ads and the Jack Delano photos. Has your copy arrived yet.
It is all right
Hi Ruth back again, I'll nab another Keith's while I complete todays "brain droppings"
Ron-I forgot to mention, I loved the postage stamps. I recognize a few from some of teh tranportation one's my dad has collected over the years. trains and transportation have always been regular postage material.Thanks for sharing them
Tom-I see that another contest is a foot. Okay put me down for Jan 1st '08
Afternoon Ruth , I'll pop in and help you unload some of that Keith's.A better beer to have an abundance of I can't think of
Tom-Nice follow up Newf railroad info sir. When I get all our photo's complied I'll see if I can't post some of the preserved equipment that I managed to get some shots of. Both in Port aux basques and Carbonnier.I hope the WB folks don't zap you for the "That's all folks" picture.
I would think that the truck being off that car would be one of two things , best case it is an ongoing preservation and restoration or worst case they are slowly using it's usable parts to keep other equipment running ( cheaper than having new replacement parts built sadly )Some interesting pictures to be sure.
I like todays spat of shots as well. Those cars do look to be well maintained, a credit to the maintenance boys 'n' girls
Lars-I humble beg forgivness for mis-spelling the nautical words. Mind you I have seen it spelt that way,oh well one lives and learns. I'll submit to 20 lashes with a wet noodle,as meeted out by H&H and supervised by yourself and Fergie <yikes> Boris can stand by as a first person in his greatwar Khaki's ( mind you I intend to slink away and tend my own wounds ) but it will give him something to do.
Jan-The 2786 shot was from our museum. The TTC didn't have much if any forested right of way.The last would have been the North Yonge street to Richmond Hill line which went out of service in 1949. Mind you several small Witt's did use the line for a while, but they were not up to the "hills" on the line.
pete-Don't do it man, diving into the pit of Boris's shack, isn't worth finding the big dipper, you know how possesive he is of his palce of abode.My advice is to double dip with the small dipper until the money owed is settled,Guido and Vito can give you tips on this , mind you their tips can come at a cost.Just ask lead food Larry the former Chandler of the second class
Eric-Nice to see you back, sorry to hear about the internal troubles. And here I was going to chalk up yours and Jan's disappearances to a chance encounter with some bikini models.Would have made for a better story, but I'm glad to ehar that you are on the mend.
Fergie-Keep your feet dry, hopefully Boris supplied you with one of his extra large pairs of combination ,Mae-west / thermal underware with the battery operated portable steam heating coils that he has been concoting in his shed. I never should have lent him those back issues of popular mechanics. At the time it seemed better than his usual reading material.But now he is quite often seem dressing his inflatables in lab assistant attire not good
Good afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Just a quick one to keep things moving along. I will be posting tomorrow at regular time. Next week looks like 4 days "hit or miss" already. CAn't wait to see what they give us to do on Friday!
work safe
Good Afternon Captain Tom and Company
Drink Up it's on me so no bird sips please.
This will be short and to the point! Fill up the thermos barkeep and put the antifreeze to her! I't gonna be a cold 3 day steam to the SW and fighting S'ly, SW'ly and W'ly gales all the way. We'll also be on a 240T heading which means no Internet (I know, I know poor baby, but hey I'm spoiled).
I might as well stock up on Carbos and protien so make it a 1" Striploin, Blue, onions and a large order of fries.
Lars Thanks for the clarification on Bos'n. BTW the term Boss is a direct derivative of the word.
Sorry to run but I'm about out of time. It'll be another one foot on the deck night as we'll be doing some dancing.
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Ruth, go ahead and take the afternoon off - yeah, I know you have to attend to those <ahem> admin matters first - but after that, be gone!
Lars stopped by 'n almost immediately after, so did Ron. My guess is our Mississippi Gentleman didn't see Lars' Post - nor did Lars see his. Gotta use that REFRESH feature BEFORE checking out, gents! . . . . Anyway, nice to see the both of you today.
A slow day and perhaps a few fotos from the Branson Scenic Railway might shake a few guys outta the trees! <grin>
Ozark country from the dome
Emerging from a tunnel
Train shots from the dome
Approaching the 2nd tunnel
Note: Sorry 'bout the less than brilliant shots on such a lovely day - dome glass needed replacing - cleaning would've been a novel thought too!
That's All Folks!
Tom
Good day Tom and all in attendance. Drinks all around, except possibly for Eric. I'm sorry to hear of your digestive problems and the hospital stay. I hope you will be better soon. I'm on a blood thinning medication also, after my artery stent implants, so I've had to have other procedures postponed (colonoscopy). I used to dread anything that resembled an operation, but so much has improved in the past 30 years in the medical field, that I'm no longer apprehensive about medical procedures, so your future procedure will be a piece of cake.
I haven't had the opportunity to prepare anything for today, but maybe later, I can come up with something to inform or at least amuse you.
The model engine is starting to come together. I've received all the materials I had to order, so it's a matter of putting it all together. I enjoy what I'm doing, as it combines engineering, innovation, research, design and manual dexterity, things that stimulate my little grey cells.
Until later, Ron
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!
Ruth my deAH, a chill in the air but lotsawarmth here at the bar with you tending to it! <blush> A mugga Joe with a splash if you please. Treats for the crittAHs - Boris feed the gang ‘n the small jar of PPF is YOURS! A round for the boyz ‘n the change is for YOU!
Another decent day here at the Watering Hole by the Wayside as Cap'n Tom's 1st Mate checks in for the daily this ‘n that! <grin>
Really good to see the return of our Desert Swede, but not pleased to learn of the health issues. <groan> You've had a time of it in 2007, Eric - let's hope 2008 is a far bettAH year for you in all respects.
A contest for the 3,000th post - ok - put me down for Cap'n Tom will do it on Pearl Harbor Day - Dec 7th . . .
I think Wolfman Pete likes to ask questions that he can easily find the answers to just to keep some of us on our toes. <grin> But, here's the info you requested about Coxswain ‘n Boatswain:
The coxswain (pronounced cox'-en) is the person in charge of a boat, particularly its navigation and steering. The etymology of the word gives us a literal meaning of "boat servant" since it comes from cox, a coxboat or other small vessel kept aboard a ship, and swain, which can be rendered as boy, in authority.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coxswain)
A boatswain (often bosun or bos'un) is a member of the deck department of a ship. On naval vessels, the boatswain is a warrant officer or petty officer. On merchant ships, the boatswain is the foreman of a ship's deck crew and is sometimes also third or fourth mate.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain)
And in return you provided me with a fine link to the Newfoundland Railway pix . . . we're "square," mate!
Noted the return of our Swede in Scotland, Jan - glad you're finding my book covAHs of interest.
An observation from the Crow's Nest: One again Cap'n Tom's way of handling newcomers to the bar seems to be working. A few days ago one of the "drive bys" stopped by with a "one way" post. No "hello" - no attempt to meet the guys - just dropped something off, then skedaddled. Da Bossman included him in the morning summary with a pending welcome and so forth. Haven't seen the guy since. Happens more times than not, huh Point is - let Cap'n Tom be the "greeter," and avoid the "backflips" just because someone stops by.
Time again for some C&O covAHs from the Larsman Mobile . . .
C&O Diesel Locomotives - 1949-1972
Chessie The Railroad Kitten
The Chessie Era
C&O Coal and Color
Ruth, I'll be waiting for you on your break to take care of those <ahem> admin matters! <blush>
Until the next time!
<"Our" Place Christmas Holiday Train>
Thursday 'n things here in mid-continent USA have turned from terrific to <ugh> insofar as the weather 'n temps are concerned. Another gloomy forecast through the weekend . . . but, the rains are needed; we're down about 7 inches for the year.
So on that happy note - belly up to the bar, order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast, check out The Mentor Village Bakery case 'n draw a mugga coffee while you're waiting!
Comments from the Proprietor:
Congratulations are in order to Jan (JanOlov) for making the 2,900th Post at our reborn Thread called "Our" Place!
Aside from a bottle of "whatever" you'd like, we now must gear up for the "biggie" - the 3,000th!
Wonder who will make it ‘n when A CONTEST! So let's see who can come up with the answer!
CONTEST CLOSES MONDAY!! So let's get a move on Gents . . .
Wednesday - Nov 28th:
Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:56 AM: Don't know what this joint would be like without the steady hand of our Manager ensuring that we have some continuity of Postings. Another spate of book covers, this time the C&O . . . which I too suspect CM3 Shane will pick up on.
Rob "dubbed you" 1st Mate over on "my other Thread," which seems like a "natural" moniker. So from this day forth . . . you Sir are indeed, FIRST MATE!
Always appreciate the conversation, covers ‘n ROUND!
Jan (JanOlov) at 10:26 AM: A super-fine inclusive Post from our Resident Swede in Scotland! I like the way you have put together your responses - indicating the time <yours> of each Post. Nice touch! Is particularly helpful when playing ‘catch-up' ...
Here's a quote from my guide book to the StL Museum of Transportation <Kirkwood> regarding B&O #50 Number 50 was the first successful, non-articulated diesel-electric passenger locomotive, delivered in 1935 by General Motor's Electro-Motive Corp. While earlier models were semi-permanently coupled to a train, Number 50 was a separate, double-ended unit, generating a total of 1,800 horsepower from its two Winton Model 201-A engines., Equipped with a steam boiler to provide passenger trains heat, the locomotive was originally assigned to the B&O's Royal Blue between Jersey City, NJ (New York City) and Washington, DC> Two years later, Number 50 and the train were sent to the Midwest and the B&O controlled Alton Railroad (later part of the Gulf-Mobile & Ohio Railroad) where, as the Abraham Lincoln, the passenger train now ran between St. Louis and Chicago. The parlor-observation car from that B&O/GM&O trainset is also in the MOT collection. In 1945, the pioneer engine was placed in local freight service. It was subsequently rebuilt again and powered Chicago-area suburban trains until retirement in 1956. It was saved from a scrapyard in 1958 when it was donated to MOT by GM's Electro-Motive Division, General Electric, and Hyman-Michaels Co.
Number 50 was the first successful, non-articulated diesel-electric passenger locomotive, delivered in 1935 by General Motor's Electro-Motive Corp. While earlier models were semi-permanently coupled to a train, Number 50 was a separate, double-ended unit, generating a total of 1,800 horsepower from its two Winton Model 201-A engines., Equipped with a steam boiler to provide passenger trains heat, the locomotive was originally assigned to the B&O's Royal Blue between Jersey City, NJ (New York City) and Washington, DC> Two years later, Number 50 and the train were sent to the Midwest and the B&O controlled Alton Railroad (later part of the Gulf-Mobile & Ohio Railroad) where, as the Abraham Lincoln, the passenger train now ran between St. Louis and Chicago. The parlor-observation car from that B&O/GM&O trainset is also in the MOT collection. In 1945, the pioneer engine was placed in local freight service. It was subsequently rebuilt again and powered Chicago-area suburban trains until retirement in 1956. It was saved from a scrapyard in 1958 when it was donated to MOT by GM's Electro-Motive Division, General Electric, and Hyman-Michaels Co.
That's the best I can do regarding questions about #50 . . . she looked to be in fair condition <see the photo I provided> when we viewed her during Rendezvous II. Whether she runs or not - I don't know. Perhaps when Pete ‘n I revisit the place in December, someone may be able to tell us . . .
Good observation about that magazine cover . . . sure looks like Hellgate to me, and NYNH&H would be my guess too.
Round ‘n generosities appreciated . . .
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 3:01 PM: Glad you were able to provide us with a little something for the PM!
As always, round ‘n quarters mean a lot to this joint ‘n those who frequent it!
Pete (pwolfe) at 4:09
Good evening Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Leon, good to see you again. I'll have my Rumpsteak Café de Paris tonight!
Finally back here at “Our” Place. I think I should explain where I have been, not stopping by every night. I spent a number of days at the hospital after eating too much for Thanksgiving dinner. After a number of tests, ultra sound pictures and X-rays (they also took all my blood) they concluded I have gall stones. First they decided to remove the whole thing today (Wednesday) but since I am still taking blood thinning medicine after my bypass surgery last July they (they= the doctors) decided to wait until after New Years. So yesterday they sent me home with a bunch of pills (every 6 hours) and today I was back at the office. Anyway, to make a long story short, I feel pretty good but I am looking forward to have the gall bladder and the stones removed so I can start eating “real” food again without pain. I had hoped to have some more time for this visit tonight, but a friend needed some help so this will be a short visit. I have a lot of catching up to do and will start that tomorrow.
However, I saw Tom’s pictures from the Branson train and the beautifully painted locomotive. Former MARC #83! That looked kind of familiar and here is picture of the same locomotive from Union Station, Washington D.C. 1992. I am glad to learn it is still going strong! I showed it here not that long ago.
Round for the house!
Good day Tom and all in attendance. Drinks all around please and a Guinness for me. I did a little research on "railroads on postage stamps" and came up with a few examples that I would like to share with you. I'm not sure how well they will look, but I'll give it a try. All images are courtesy of William Senkus.
Thanks to all who have contributed fine material, which I enjoy very much. I hope I can provide you with good material also.
I'll try a Bathams XXX winter ale please RUTH.
Manager Lars asked about photos of the Newfoundland Railway. I have found this intersting link.
http://home.thezone.net/~sharvey/nfrail.htm
I also found this painting which I think ALLAN will like and maybe bring back some memories..
http://www.railart.co.uk/gallery/austin22.html
I thought it is a great site with some really wonderful railway art..
Pete.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
RON Many thanks for the very interesting post on the tramways and trams of Chile. 23 is certainly a large number of different gauges. Are there many tramway museums in Chile.
Thanks for the photos of those Chilean made model electric locomotives.
ROB Hope you get over that chest cold very soon.
Many thanks for the kind words on the photos; yes Alan took them. I forgot to say they were taken on May 10th this year. Alan tells me he was lucky as the event took place over a weekend, he went on the Saturday, the next day it rained heavily.
Watch out for these nautical types at the bar.
FERGIE Hope the seas moderate soon.
It is real good to hear that there are several sites in Newfoundland where they have preserved locomotives and cars.
LARS I was wondering how the names Boatswain and Coxswain originated.
Thinking about the artwork in railway magazines it seems to me that is now a rarity to see any railway paintings inside the railroad magazines, as well, now it seems to me, Trains magazine used to have a painting as the centerfold but it seems a longtime since I saw one, it is the same with the British magazines. One reason I though of this was, a few years ago the (British) Railway Magazine had a great painting showing the ex LMS Jubilee class steam loco Newfoundland climbing the Lickey Incline in a thunderstorm.
Many thanks for those great C&O bookcovers. I bet this weeks wages CM3 has the C&O in the Coal Fields of West Virginia and Kentucky book.
It's mighty cold in them sidings this time of year.
JAN I think you are due congratulations for the 2,900th post.
I hear it has been mighty wet over there and there is a lot of colds about. Alan tells me he has a bad one at the minute.
Yes it must have quite a sound with those locomotives hauling a heavy load at the speed they were traveling at. I wonder if there was many railfans who used to record the sound of steam locomotives in North America.
Those Great Western pannier tanks were quite powerful for their size. A few of them are still working hard today on preserved lines. It said in the Railway Magazine there is to be a future article on the pannier tanks work on preserved lines, it should be interesting.
CM3 It was the same in my area of England with regard to the local pick up freights, most of the time it was a locomotive very often seen but now and then it was an exotic locomotive from a depot not usually seen. This was particularly true on the local from the Birmingham area, I can remember seeing a 1,250HP class 25 diesel from a Glasgow shed, switching some freight cars, I had not seen that particular loco before. It would have been interesting to know how the locomotive had reached Rugby, it did not look as though it had been through works for a overhaul. Thanks for evoking the memory for me.
Looking forward to your FM photos at the rendezvous
TOM Thanks for the interesting link to the Ocean Weather Ships. They must have been invaluable to air travel before they have been replaced by buoys. I see the last ship was the Norwegian one in 1980.
As you say I think you would have to ride the Branson Scenic railway twice, if going on the dining train, once to travel in one of the dome car and again in the diner.
Thinking about the St Louis to Springfield MO line, seeing as there are just 3 trains each way, there must be room for a charter train to Springfield with a coach connection to Branson. All we need is a few dome cars a couple of F units or better still Alcos, if we can't get a steam locomotive. What do you say.
Many thanks for Canadian Railways of the Past on the Newfoundland Railway. The line seemed to struggle money wise but was very vital in WWII. Like a lot of lines it seems an improved highway spelt the
Just a quick stop as I am back to reload gear for tomorrow. Will try and post during the afternoon, then, but Friday for sure. Have a good evening.
Greetings Tom and gentlemen...
I hope that you all are feeling well and dandy. My cold comes and goes as it please, which is rather annoying. So, barkeep....please top up whatever the laddies are having with the usual cigars and something for me to take care of this cold of mine....mooaan! I've put some single malts for testing in the office, hope that you'll like them....
$$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
wanswheel, 11-25-2007, 11:20 PM: That was an interesting post mate, thanks for sharing! Anymore??
trolleyboy, 11-26-2007, 5:33 AM: I like that pic with 2768 doing its thing as you say. Must have been countless of rail miles hidden in the wooods... As for the steam pics, I was impressed with the spit and polish that C&O had on some of their engines....wow! Hope to see more from you!
siberianmo, 11-26-2007, 12:16 PM: Yup, the book is fantastic Tom, well worth it price! Getting eager to find out more about heavies as well and not just their lighter sisters. So, #50 is still with us, that great....wish that she was in better shape though. Any plans to restore her to her former glory?
Enjoyed your Significant events in Canadian RR History as always....
Da Larsman, 11-26-2007, 4:17 PM: Enjoyed your covers as always do, and found another interesting one.... Sand Patch - Clash of Titans - Cumberland to Connellsville and branches - 1837-1993, might just be a good buy me thinks....
pwolfe, 11-26-2007, 7:32 PM: Doing my best to fight this annoying cold off, comes and goes as it feel like....tiresome to say the least...thanks. I absolutely love the book mate, now I need to see if I can find some more about the heavyweight limiteds....
Was thinking that when I was looking at the pics taken close to the train and engines.....what a sound it must have been, really wish that I could have been there to experience that... Showroom condition indeed!
Gunneral, Yesterday, 2:05 AM: Glad that you liked them....
siberianmo, Yesterday, 2:10 PM: Great pics matey.... I remember seeing somewhere that someone had built a model layout in a caboose or is my memory playing havoc with me...?
Da Larsman, Yesterday, 6:00 PM: Some more nice covers... B&O Steam Finale - Vol 2 & B&O RR in the Potomac Valley looks interesting....
siberianmo, Yesterday, 8:38 PM: Nice Railroad Magazine covers, is the last one NYNH&H on Hellgate Bridge?
pwolfe, Yesterday, 10:41 PM: Great pics matey.... Those wee tank engines has a certain style....keep 'em coming.
DD1, Today, 2:37 AM: Is THAT a railroad coah!? Looks more like a smaller cinema....wow! Nice looking Lionel trains too.
siberianmo, Today, 2:16 PM: Thoroughly enjoyed your Canadian Railways of the Past Number Eight: Newfoundland Railway!
Da Larsman, More great covers! C&O Railway in the coalfields of West Virginia & Kentucky looks interesting...
I'll be back...!
Ruth my deAH, my oh my you are a loveRly sight this <and every> day! <blush> Yes, a mugga Joe with a splash will be fine for me. A round for the house ‘n treats for the crittAHs - the change is for YOU! Boris, feed the gang ‘n that small jar of PPF is YOURS!
I see Da Bossman has been busy, busy, busy this morning - as he not only provided the summary but also a fine rundown on the Newfoundland Railway of yesteryear. <sweet> Now all we need are some pix to go with it! Perhaps one of our guyz can help out in that department as I'm just a bit stressed for time this morning.
Ok, I just gotta ask: What is WITH the guy called Fergie He comes in here - provides some great material on that RR up in Cape Breton, NS - gives us all a laff with the response to the <tweeting> THEN comes back and fails to order food or drink on his next visit! Good Grief Charlie Brown, is this guy an accident waiting to happen or what Forgive him Bossman, for he knows not what he's doing! <grin>
Good grief, Rob - if you're gonna talk the sailor talk at least get it RIGHT - Bos'n - Bos'n - Bos'n. There now, got it
That's a "record" - zinging two Canadians in succession! <grin>
Yesterday was quite the day as we got two posts from Shane - two from Fergie - Rob is back ‘n of course Pete came through with a typically fine all inclusive offering. Nice going guyz!
Getting concerned about Eric . . . and what's with Jan Two Swedes AWOL! <groan>
Sorry - but I've had it with commenting on those who cannot find it within them to comment on the works of others. Deal me out please.
Hey Cap'n Tom, I also enjoyed your "Nickel's Worth" feature. Those are great magazine covAHs ‘n the more I see ‘em the more I must agree with Pete that we just don't see artwork on rail magazines (or any others) like we used to.
Speaking of the Wolfman - I'd be less worried about extra pay and more concerned about your security ‘round here if you don't get to "it" out on the sidings! <grrrrrrrrrrr>
I'm beginning to lose track of the covAHs I've been posting - but what the heck - here's a few more, even if you've seen ‘em B4!! These should tickle Shane's fancy <whatever THAT is!>
C&O Pere Marquettes
C&O for Progress - The C&O at mid-20th Century
C&O Railway in the coalfields of West Virginia & Kentucky
C&O Color Pictorial - Vol 1
C&O Color Pictorial - Vol 2
Lars
Now Arriving on Track #1
Canadian Railways of the Past Number Eight: Newfoundland Railway
Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some heralds from other sources. <Information not verified>
Newfoundland Railway
Reporting marks
NFLD
Locale
Newfoundland
Dates of operation
1898 - 1949 (merged into CN, abandoned 1988
Track gauge
1,067 mm (3 ft 6 in)
Headquarters
St. John's, Newfoundland
The Newfoundland Railway was a historic railway that operated on the island of Newfoundland and was the longest narrow gauge railway system in North America.
Early construction
In 1880, a committee of the Newfoundland legislature recommended that a narrow gauge railway be built from the colonial capital in St. John's to Halls Bay, 547 km (340 miles) to the west. Construction was started on the Avalon Peninsula in August, 1881 by a group of investors and by 1884, the Newfoundland Railway Company had built 92 km (57 miles) west to Whitbourne before the company went into receivership.
The same investors continued to build a 43 km (27 mile) branch line from Whitbourne to Harbour Grace which was called the Harbour Grace Railway, which was completed by October of that same year.
The colonial government undertook to build a branch from the junction at Whitbourne to the ports of Placentia and Argentia, which was done between 1886 and 1888.
Robert G. Reid
Newfoundland Railway Stamp
The colonial government sought new investors to continue the stalled project to Halls Bay and in June, 1890, Scottish-born Montreal resident and railway engineer/contractor Robert Gillespie Reid agreed to build and operate the line. By 1892, Reid's workers were approaching the halfway point at the Exploits River when the government changed the terminus from Halls Bay approximately 400 km (250 miles) further west, first to
Good Morning Captain Tom and All
First things first!
siberianmo wrote: Stomping grounds is perhaps a too kind reference to the waters you frequent. In "my day" we were assigned to Ocean Stations Alfa <note: the original phonetic alphabet of the military spelled it this way - not the "college frat" Alpha of today!> - Bravo - Charlie & Delta for 21 days on station. We also manned Echo, down Bermuda-way too. Rather than bore everyone with my recollections - check out this link to give some background "stuff" . . .
Stomping grounds is perhaps a too kind reference to the waters you frequent. In "my day" we were assigned to Ocean Stations Alfa <note: the original phonetic alphabet of the military spelled it this way - not the "college frat" Alpha of today!> - Bravo - Charlie & Delta for 21 days on station. We also manned Echo, down Bermuda-way too. Rather than bore everyone with my recollections - check out this link to give some background "stuff" . . .
Well had a reasonably good night as I had the spare pillow jammed under the outboard side of the bunk so I didn't take the "leap of faith" when we go rolled. Seas are building to 20+ right now and we are 240nm from St Johns and about 80nm from Flemish Cap still Though winds are suppose to swing to the NW tommorrow and deminish.
siberianmo wrote: Bribery will get you EVERYWHERE! So why not get Guido to prime ‘n paint the scuppers Hmmmmmmm, better not let Vito the Hit find out about this . . . a five buck bribe <geesh> <double geesh>
I kind sire do not B-b-b-bribe! Heck no, Bride is simply beneath me, it's something you offer someone to do bad things!~
I just merely offered the man incentives to provide a positive result
Speaking of TWEETING! Rob Buddy... It's Boatswain! or Bos'n. Tom could have you concievably flogged for that one... And I'll be all to glad to offer advice while he's doing it
DD1 Nice love seats wonder how often they have to be cleaned?
Regarding the "Newfie Bullet". As some of you may know there are several historic sites across Newfoundland where the Diesels and cars are on display. Well on the way to the base last week in St John's we passed the Old Railway Museum on Water Street and there it was! One of the old Diesels and two passenger cars. Freshly painted in the old CN green and yellow livery and looking very smart! The diesel must have been brought in as it wasn't there last year. It's nice to see history being preserved.
Anyway I must roll!
Wednesday's Witticism
When wiser men are talkin', let your ears hang down and listen.
Mid-week in mid-continent USA where yesterday was a blue sky day with fall-like temps ‘n just an all around good day to be outdoors. Today has the promise of a repeat performance with the high expected to reach the mid 50s (F). <nice>
Time for a mugga Joe - pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board!
Tuesday - Nov 27th:
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 10:10 AM: A fine selection to EDJ-U-MUH-KAY-TUH the crew at "Our" Place - Sydney & Louisbourg Railway in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada! Undoubtedly a road that perhaps just you, Rob ‘n I knew about at this bar . . . maybe others, but . . .
http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=2343
Many thanx for the visit ‘n business! <KaChing - KaChing>
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 11:59 AM: The man called Shane (or CM3 or coalminer3) has returned! And there's quarters for Herr Wurlitzer <juke box for those who have forgotten!!> and a round for the boyz!
Lars (LoveDomes) at noon: A lunchtime visit from our Manager along with MORE B&O book covers from the LarsmanMobile!
I see you've found the <tweeting> reference for our wayward Mariner Fergie! Good to have a Manager ‘round here who keeps tabs on all things good ‘n not so! <grin>
Fergie (Fergmiester) at 2:51 PM: You Sir, are back in good graces now that you've owned up to the <tweeting> you so deservedly received! Now, doesn't that make you feel so much better <huh????> <grin>
Bribery will get you EVERYWHERE! So why not get Guido to prime ‘n paint the scuppers Hmmmmmmm, better not let Vito the Hit find out about this . . . a five buck bribe <geesh> <double geesh>
Appreciate the 2nd visit of the day while you're battening down those hatches!
CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 3:58 PM: 2nd visit and this time with an inclusive Post - nicely done, Mate!
Received ‘n responded to your Email - thanx!
Many thanx for taking the time ‘n making the effort to catch up ‘n of course provide us with a second helping of quarters along with ANOTHER round!
Pete (pwolfe) at 4:41 PM: Enjoyed speaking with you today - seems like it's been awhile. Anyway, we're caught up ‘til you swing by for our December visit to the TrainWreck Saloon!
You covered lots of ground in that fine informative ‘n inclusive Post - well done!
Evening Leon. I'll take a Keith's while I put my feet up. I have to say I'm not quite sure which day it is, combination of a chest cold and 8 straight days (daze) at work. Oh well one more month
Tom-Nice to see some traditions still continuing, the ongoing saga of Canadian railways is as always a good read. Reading through your latest tome , trigged on a couple notables for myself.Harbour Grace is where Heather's grandad was born in 1902. It was the prime stop for our recent travels to the rock. It's and Carboner's stations are still there and are in good shape, neat little towns. I actually know a couple of the engineers that work for trillium's St thomas operations. Small world to be sure.
I aggree with you on the F's <barf and doube barf > to modern designs five me GP's FA's and F's over any Dash whatever or SD 1,000,000'sAsk me what a really think A couple more nice Branson shots there too sir, the ole Frisco looks to be fairly decent shape.
Lars-Lots o nice B&O pics n books glad to see your bookmobile still runneth over.. to bad about your Giants , still it could be worse, you could be a Dolphin's fan, I mean a 3-0 loss, wow even most hockey teams score more than that.
Pete-The ole trip to Ottawa was indeed the memorable of memorable events for us. truly glad we did it even if it did cut into some cyber bar time. Loved your latest steam shots,more of Allan's work I presume
Allan-good to see you back in again sir
Ron-Some nice info and nice shots of those old box motors. Good show at keeping the ole wednesday model day theme perpetuated. Interesting pictures of those South american trams and passenger equipment.The seating in that passenger car looks more comfortable than my living room !
fergie-Uh-Oh , hopefully bosen's pipes are the only tweeting you will hear from now on .Neat info on the S&L.Heather and I took in the little station and equipment museum they have in Louisberg,on our way into the Fortress museum. first time I was in Cape Breton and we loved every minute.Keep warm and dry out there
Good day Tom and all at the bar. Have a drink of your choice on me.
Allan: Thanks for the update on the "black and Tan" and the Mosquito bombers
As the unofficial representative of all things pertaining to railroads in South America, I thought you might get a kick out of the following pieces of trivia.
São Paulo: Metrô (16/03/06, 29/06/06, 10/08/06, 25/12/06 and 25/04/07)
Due to new law all transport undertakings in the state of São Paulo must provide for overweight passengers with a body mass index of over 40 (weight in kg, divided by height in cm in the square) a number of wider seats. This must be arranged within four years. For this, it is intended to use the seats up to now reserved for pregnant women, senior citizens, mothers with perambulators and users of wheel chairs. Asides from the trains also seats in stations, in buses, cinemas, theatres and entertainment places must be adapted.
Chile ranks eighth in Latin America in land area and seventh in population, but was third, after Mexico and Brazil, in number of tramway systems. It was the second country in Latin America, the first in South America, one of the first places in the world, to have a horsedrawn passenger railway on a street. Only the United States, France and Mexico had streetcars before Chile. Four trams preserved there today are among the oldest railway cars in existence in the world.
Trams ran in at least 65 cities in Chile, in more places per capita than in any other Latin American country. Many of the tram systems were small, but there were also long lines, both horsedrawn and electric, between towns and across the Atacama Desert. There were steam trams, gasoline trams, battery trams, and one of the world's first electric railways that used a center rack rail. Most of Chile's tram cars were double-deckers; it had the largest collection of these outside the United Kingdom. It had more German trams than any country except Germany, the only double-deck electric trams built in Germany, the only double-deck electric trams built in Belgium, more double-deck trams built in the United States than ran in the United States, and the only trams from the U.S. that also ran in Argentina. Its tramways used 23 track gauges. Its trams were turned on turntables. Most of its tram conductors were women. Courtesy of Allen Morrison
I bet you haven't seen seating like this in a RR coach. This one was in a Chilean coach
The following model train pictures for Wednesday. Notice the similarity to Lionel standard gauge and Ives trains.
These trains to scale manufactured entirely in Chile were built among 1930 and 1960, in scale 1:32. Their gauge is distinct to that of the international trains in this scale, call "1", for our wide gauge of the south railroads. The locomotives (series E-20, E-25 and E-28) are models of the Baldwin Westinghouse that ran among Santiago and Valparaíso and they were the first brought to the country by the Railroads of the State.
Courtesy of Oscar Guzman
ALLAN Thanks for the back.
I seem to remember reading a book quite a while back about the Mosquitoes that were used to guide the bombing raids, I believe they were called the Pathfinder Squadron. Have you heard of them. I wish I could recall what the book was titled.
I think it was the United bus company I was thinking off. As you say, at the time I was thinking of, in the 1950s and early1960s, it was ether bus or push bike for getting to work if you lived beyond walking distance, and a few came in by train. In my hometown Rugby it was amazing how many buses there were serving the two large factories, even when I started in 1967 the number of bike racks at the factory would be unbelievable today. I like to see those old photos that show the number of buses or trams that used to serve the football matches at larger grounds in the old days.
I guess some of the A4s were more common than others were, although I would think Newcastle was a great place to see them with, I suppose, some of the Haymarket (Edinburgh) A4s would change engines at Newcastle, I have read some of the Haymarket and Gateshead A4s were rare in the London area.
I was fortunate to see all the ex LMS Duchesses although it was the same with the Polmadie (Glasgow) ones as they usually changed engines at Carlisle, although I can recall, I think it was in the late 1950s, the Duchess hauling the Royal Scot express would work all way from Glasgow to London. Some of the Glasgow engines used to run on the North Wales coast on running in turns after overhaul at Crewe works.
I would think it would be a hard job to see all the A3s. Oh for them books.
MIKE Many thanks for the photos and the link to David P Morgan and Trains magazine.
It seems Mr. Morgan took over at a difficult time for the magazine with the change over from steam to diesel. I would like to see the circulation figures for the railway press in the UK from when steam finished there in 1968 for the next few years.
My father used to bring me a magazine called Trains Illustrated each month; thinking about this reminded me about another thing that has disappeared, that is the news seller who sold newspapers and magazine from a handcart they were found near factory entrances. I am sure ALLAN would remember them.
FERGIE Many thanks for the very entertaining history of the Sydney & Louisburg Railway. It sounds a line of real character, with trains stopping to pick up hunters etc., it would be interesting to know what some of those practical jokes the railwaymen played. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you will be home for Christmas, I hope those 40-knot winds ease soon.
CM3 Great to see you back.
Looking forward to your posts.
LARS What is this about stocking ‘Private Cars'. I will have to have a look in my contract. I guess I will have to do it, as I have not seen the money from the nice little earner I had when the boss was away yet.
I see FERGIE has replied to the "Tweeting". I wonder if ERIC is having computer problems.
Another great set of B&O bookcovers from the Larsman Mobile. Great painting of the Steam Finale cover, interesting signals as well..
TOM Thanks for the kind words and it was great to talk to you.
Many thanks for the calculator for the old prices. I noticed in the KC Star they calculate how much the price of the items in the Christmas song The Twelve Days of Christmas have gone up in the last year.
That is a good link to the St Louis Springfield line, about three trains in each direction sounds about right from the ones I have heard and seen in Marshfield, there is one about 5PM another about 10.30PM I used to see or hear regular although I missed them on this visit. I am a bit
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