"Our" Place reborn! 3rd Year of adults 'n REAL Classic Trains in a special environment!

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!

at "Our" Place!

We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!


Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

. . . March 25^th thru 31^st: The Third Man (1949) Starring: Joseph Cotten, Alida Valli, Orson Welles, Trevor Howard & Bernard Lee - and - Double Indemnity (1944) Starring: Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, Edward G. Robinson, Porter Hall & Jean Heather. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Rockin' Thru The Rockies (1940).

 

The Third Man (1949)

PLOT SUMMARY:

An out of work pulp fiction novelist, Holly Martins, arrives in a post war Vienna divided into sectors by the victorious allies, and where a shortage of supplies has lead to a flourishing black market. He arrives at the invitation of an ex-school friend, Harry Lime, who has offered him a job, only to discover that Lime has recently died in a peculiar traffic accident. From talking to Lime's friends and associates Martins soon notices that some of the stories are inconsistent, and determines to discover what really happened to Harry Lime.  

from: amazon.com

 

 

Double Indemnity (1944)

PLOT SUMMARY:

Smooth talking insurance salesman Walter Neff meets attractive Phyllis Dietrichson when he calls to renew her husband's automobile policy. The couple are immediately drawn to each other and an affair begins. They cook up a scheme to murder Mr. Dietrichson for life insurance money with a double indemnity clause. Unfortunately, all does not go to plan...  

 from: amazon.com

 

SHORT: Rockin' Thru The Rockies (1940)


PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly

Moe, Larry and Curly are three out of work actors who have been hired as guides to get Nell and her Belles across the plains to San Francisco in time for their engagement, so of course they're in trouble. Bears steal their food, Indians tell them to scram (or else!), and Curly manages to frighten away their horses. After spending the night in a make-shift cabin (built out of stage scenery), the Indians come back and kidnap the girls while the Stooges are ice fishing.

from: threestooges.net

 

Enjoy!

See y'all on Monday . . .

Tom

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

A fine outpouring of interest in the bar from the guys! Let's get straight to the acknowledgments (since my last narrative of this AM):

Doug at 10:15 AM today: Some outstanding traction shots and there's little doubt that if our Ontario Connection could only see 'em, his Maple Leaf shaped heart would go "pitty patter, eh!"

Nice work!

James at 10:25 AM today: A Chicago "report" and some interesting Pix to go with it! Now we have a face to go with the name . . . many thanx!

Love the layout and when it comes to passenger cars, sidings and the like - that's my "thing" fer sure, fer sure! Glad you had a fine time and it's a hobby only a select few of us really understand. Talk "trains" to someone who has little or no exposure, and you may as well be talkling nuclear physics! <grin>

 

Pete at 2:35 PM 'n 3:01 PM today: Early afternoon visit from the Wolfman! Great day to be outdoors fer sure, fer sure! Sad to say, I've been at the keyboard for most of it - doing SUBDIVISION "stuff" - newsletter, specifically. I should know better than to volunteer.

Anyway, love the URLs and the Pix!

Those "chunnel chuggers" have already cost VIA Rail a "bundle" in that they had to be "fitted" for North American winters along with a host of other "things" apparently not thought of or considered important when the purchase was agreed to. I've provided much info on this over on the original Thread. Also, DL gave us quite a bit of insight to the cars and organization(s) connected with 'em from the Euro side of things. Things like these happen when those who "haven't a clue" get involved in things that those "with a clue" should've been cut in on at the "get go."

I think Lars has you "pegged," better "bone up" on the questions regarding being Bar Chandler. I think there's a "guide book" 'round here somewhere - Stocking a Bar for Dummies, or something like that! <grin>

 

Lars at 3:28 PM today: Don't know what to tell ya, Mate, BUT you aren't hiding too much 'round here regarding whatever has transpired between you and Ruth! One of these days, you'll be taking up "residence" in the Penthouse Suite when the Mrs. throws you out, lock - stock - and barrel! We're all enjoying it, so don't mind us! <grin>

Your VIA Rail thoughts follow mine and yes, I did discuss the handicapped retrofits some time back. 'nuf said . . .

Check this out from my S-gauge layou (S-Capades):

The livery sure looks "similar" to me! Good observation . . .

 

Dave at 3:45 PM today: MY Rolls (thought it was a Mercedes!!) in Iraq???? Now how in the did that happen????

Glad to see that you're still able to communicate and have us on your mind! Seeing that license plate must've brought a grin to your face, eh

Time for an ENCORE!

Initially Posted: 13 Oct 2005, page 136 on the original Thread:

A true story about Awk while staying at Cindy's place.

Cindy's dishwasher quit working so she called a repairman.  Since she had to go to work the next day, she told the repairman, "I'll leave the key under the mat.  Fix the dishwasher, leave the bill on the counter, and I'll mail you a check."

"Oh, by the way don't worry about my bulldog, Spike.  He won't bother you.  But, whatever you do, do NOT, under ANY circumstances, talk to my parrot!" "I REPEAT, DO NOT TALK TO MY PARROT!!!"

When the repairman arrived at Cindy's apartment the following day, he discovered the biggest, meanest looking bulldog he has ever seen.  But, just as she had said, the dog just lay there on the carpet watching the repairman go about his work.

The parrot, however, drove him nuts the whole time with his incessant yelling, cursing and name calling.  Finally the repairman couldn't contain himself any longer and yelled,

"Shut up, you stupid, ugly bird!"

To which the parrot replied, "Get him, Spike!"

Really appreciate your stopping by and look forward to the next visit - stay safe!

 

Doug at 5:46 PM today: Interesting comparisons - check mine out, above!

 

Be back with the movies for the coming week . . .

Tom

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and crew. I'm ready for a bottomless draught, and I'm sure that ya'll are ready for a round! Nifty layout pix from James. I can't imagine scratch building all that track. Great to see Pete and his pix, which leads us to the locomotive identification question from manager Lars. Check this out

The NRM says the No. 106 is U.S. Army. The 118-C is a F-7A built in 1951. Are they the same engines? I was never any good at this stuff.

Howabout that visit from Dave? Loved the story of the Rolls with "AWK" plates. Is it Tom's?

[West Coast S]

Howdy all from the sandbox..What are we up today? Round for all who attend, i'll officiate with a good house druaght to get the bar warmed up.. What a grinding past week or so, never the less there were a few light, even surreal moments.

Tom. You'll get a kick out of this, I even a did a double take to verfiy the mind was not playing tricks when I spotted the following sight on a desolate dirt road with bombed out vehicles and blasted vegetation as far as the eye could see, one late model Rolls Royce, in pristine show room condition blasting down said road, the kicker, a personlized plate that read "AWK" ..

Happy 60th to the Air Force, speaking of same they attached a vivacious Intel Captain to my team. I think i'm in love!!! Opps, can't be so, got 25 years in my wife, can't afford another one!!!!

Good to see Barndad, Eric, Lars about..

Eric..I believe you posted a reply question regarding my reply (say that three times fast!) to smoke hoods..If so, not only were four thousands equipped with them, but 3800 and 3900 class Challengers as well. The oil converted 3700's used smoke deflectors, though some had both systems, a holdover from coal days, the only other extent Challenger, 3977 was so equipped at one time.

Pete, a respose for you as well, Cabforwards were indeed equipped, as were all large SP steam power with rebreathers. Interesting aside of the same topic, the SP developed smoke splitters to keep exhaust from lifting the timbers off snowsheds, a simple v of plate steel, bolted to a frame above the smokestack deflected the blast towards the sides, simple, yet effective. SP did have smoke hoods applied in limited quanities, mostly 2-10-2's and some 2-8-2's assigned to the passenger helper pool on lines in Oregon.

Great job with the traction and metro coverage. Never got into the metro scene, growing up with Trainmasters, Harriman coaches and now defuct locomotive builders and fallen flags on parade everyday tends to jade one's prespective toward current commuter/freight operations...  

Well, back to the task at hand, Encore Saturday looking good so far. I shall return as soon as able.

Dave 

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH you are once again the focus of attention 'round here and it's awfully hard NOT to look in your direction. <blush> Ah yes, time for at least a couple of frosty mugs of Keiths and a Lars special hero - make it just a half though. Yes, treats for the critters and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris! Round for the house and the change is yours . . .

Well, well, looks as if this Saturday has a bit more activity than most recent ones. Really some fine posts and good to see Doug, James 'n Pete with us during the daylight hours. Eric of course, hanging upside down from whatever limb he can find in Arizona, prefers the nocturnal hours! <grin>

Hey Pete! That idea of yours regarding the exam for Bar Chandler may just be your undoing! I think Tom has come up with a great idea and you're playing right into his hands. That's the idea, mate - get you snockered beyond belief, and we in turn get Boris' shed cleaned.

Young James provided some fine shots of those model trains. If only Amtrak ran long consists like the one shown with all those superliners. Lucky to have a dozen at a time these days or at least that's been my experience with the California Zephyr to 'n from the left coast. Wonder what the situation is with all of those cars that were sitting in Indiana waiting for repair . . .  Curious minds need to know. Anyone????

That Via Rail article sez it all. Can you imagine! This stuff is absolutely rubbish and I know that will incite some folks who aren't as fortunate as the rest of us. But these idiots simply will not permit any compromise whatsoever. I recall reading (maybe from Tom) that when the issue of getting wheel chairs through the narrow passageways of those euro cars, Via offered to provide custom made chairs. The opposition turned it down and in essence said if they couldn't handle the full size chair, no deal. Now what kinda crap is that? I think we know. It happens in the U.S. all of time and really common sense has gone by the boards. I don't think former Sen. Dole thought this out when he sponsored the law we now have governing all of this in our country. Canada has taken it to another level, so it seems.

Is it just me, or does that Janesville & Southeastern EMD E8 (??) look like a "cousin" to an Illinois Central paint job?? Great pix from Pete!

Doug, glad to hear that those responsible for the continuing mess you've found yourself in are at least footing the bill. Makes one wonder whether no matter how much money is spent if anything gets done right thse days. Problems 'round here were with a very old home, whereas you just moved in to brand new digs. Have one on ME - make it TWO!

Eric, some fine shots from you too out there in the southwest. Don't know what to tell ya about the tastes you have in "food," but I'm with the Cap'n when it comes to "grease on a grill" - ugh. Pretty much anything fried in "fat" - as in "fries" - no thanks. My arteries are clogged enough with the sins of past years and I figger that "blowing 'em out" on occasion with some JD or similar "hootch" will keep me going 'til "the call" comes down for my soul. <grin>

I see Doug dropped off a fine post over on the "other thread," so I'll skip the visit today. Figure that "whoever" is browsing it won't care  . . . I think if we can at least get just one post a day over there, it will keep us near the top of the page. That is the idea to attract some guys our way.

You may be on the money with that idea of yours, Pete. The "numbers" just may be adding up for the old thead by virtue of "hits" obtained elsewhere in the ether. I've seen many references to stuff from "Our" Place by doing searches for this 'n that. I think you are right on! Appears you missed your calling as Inspector Clueless just may want you as an assistant investigator!

Good to be with you guys for a bit and it's time for me to head on out . .  the Mrs. got wind of "something" to do with Ruth and jewelry shopping. Geesh guys, cut me some slack, will ya!

Until the next time!

Lars

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Well Ruth, it is warming up here in Mid-Mo so another Bathams would go down a treat.

Three pics from the NRM at Green Bay WIS.

Two pics now from Alan on a railtour in the north of England.

 

Ex LMS class 5 4-6-0 ready to take over the tour at Manchester Victoria, where it would travel over the Pennines via Huddersfield and Halifax to Bradford Interchange.

As Bradford Interchange( was known as Exchange in LNER days) is a terminus, diesel loco No 57601 was used to haul the train the short distance to Leeds where 45407 took the train back to Manchester. 57601 is a re-engined loco from a 1960s Brush class 47 loco. the engine is from GM.

The pics should enlarge.

Pete.

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Just lost my post so a Bathams XXX please RUTH.

DOUG Thanks for the next installment on the D&H , with some great descriptions of the old railroad cars at the time and they are some wonderful old photos.

Enjoying the photos and many thanks for the details on the cars in the IRM Trolley Pagent, the museum certainly has a great collection of cars including the works vehicles.The volunteers certainly deserve a and thanks for allowing us to see those splendid restored cars running .Loved the CTA car with the 'Base Ball Today' sign .

I hope the problems with your house are all solved very soon.

ERIC Great photos, in the photo of the SJ loco depot that looks like Wagon-Lits cars on the left and that looks an interesting electric loco to the left of the more modern locos.

Can I guess New Mexico as the State.

I have found a couple of links to the present day Irish diesel locos, although I have not been over there for quite a while now I have heard that a lot of the passenger trains are going to be run by Diesel Multiple Units.

http://www.irishtractiongroup.com/irish_locos.htm

 All the locos are from GM. It seems that the only locos to be left are the 083 and the GM 200 classes very soon.

Here is a link to some photos of the present Irish rail scene

http://irishrailwaylocomotivesandrollingstock.fotopic.net/

It should be a great day at the Luke Air Force Base.

JAMES It is amazing how time seems to fly by when you are having a good time. Many thanks for the description and the photos of your Chicago trip. That is an impressive layout of the Chicago Union Station and the loco yards. I hope we will be able to see to see some pics when the layout is finished.

Glad you were able to pick up a couple of Milwaukee Road models.

TOM I had not realised that the USAF was only 60 years old but as you say to all who have served past and present.

Interesting link to the VIA Renaissence cars it looks like it is going to cost VIA a lot of money.

Those who are looking at our posts must be of a simular frame of mind as us or else they would not keep on viewing, it is a pity they can't pop in even just to say HI. I wonder if some of the search engines are directing folks to Our Place.

I may have walk with the pooch down to the park by the railroad at Jeff City a bit later, Pats Place opens at 3 PM.

OH NO BORIS'S shed wants cleaning again.A pint after every correct answer. After about 8 questions I get right,if the question was "What day of the week is it" I would be heading for the shed.

As to the 'Hamberger' BORIS thinks the food regulations don,t count between midnight and 6AM

Yes a visit to the IRM is a must, as you say another topic for the Rendezvous.

Well RUTH another Bathams just the bitter this time please, while I load some pics, back in a bit.

Pete. 

[CMSTPP]

G-day Tom and all present!

Ruth- Good to see you. I will have coffee along with one of those good smelling pastries please.

      Well, I am back to share my time in Chicago. We left about 9 in the morning on Friday of last week. The ride down was long but it was worth it. Got talking with all of my dads friends. Talking trains of course. 7 hours later we finally arrived in Chicago. So it was about 4 in the afternoon when we arrived. (We had stopped in Eau Clair, Wisconsin, at a hobby shop. Bill, one of man dads friends, knows the owner of the shop.

      The Next day on Saturday, we woke up around 7:00 am and went to McDonalds. But the best part about that is, we where really close to Metra's triple track mainline. Those trains get going pretty quickly along that track. Some pretty cool trains. After that we got to the show at about 8:00 and enjoyed our selves until about 12:30. We left some of the guys behind and went to a couple of hobby shops. I picked up a couple Milwaukee road coaches and a Milwaukee E6. So it was a good year for the HOers. After the show at 5:00 pm we went over to a guys layout. His name is Fred and he is going to own the largest layout I know. He models Metra and Amtrak. Absolutely unbelievable. I have some photos of his layout.

After that we back to the hotel. On Sunday, the next morning at 7:00 am we went back to the show until 12:00 noon when we left for home. We didn't get home until 8:00 pm and then depression set in. It was over. It went that quickly. But it was fun none-the-less.

So here are some pictures.

I am in the left hand side of the photo running some commuter trains. It was fun.

This is one of the yards. Roosevelt street yard. It's pretty good sized.

This would be the entrance to Union station.

And these are the platforms to Union station. All the rail is hand laided with about 8000 spikes. And yes he is building Union station.

Enjoy.

 I will be back later with some acknowledgements and second portion of th NP article.

Happy railroading

James

[Anonymous]

Howdy again Tom! I'll have another light breakfast please. Gotta keep up my strength ya know ... Nope, so far no money has left my pocket for the repairs to the new domicile, so that's good news. Bad news is we can expect more trouble and more repairs. I think our driveway isn't all it should be either. Grrrrrrrrr

 

Here are more pix from the IRM 2006 Trolley Pageant

Illinois Terminal 1565. It's one of 18 Class B locos built by the IT System's Decatur Shops in 1910. It is 34' long, weighs 120,000 pounds, and rated at 800 horsepower. Several of the Class B motors were later rebuilt into four-truck, articulated, Class C locos. As of 2006, IT 1565 has been in the Museum's collection for 46 years, a year longer than it operated on the Illinois Terminal.

Chicago Surface Lines 1374. The car has been celebrating its 100^th birthday this year as it was built in 1906 by the St. Louis Car Company; it was nicknamed the "Matchbox" because of its small size - only 41' long, nine feet shorter than the Pullman-built CSL 144. It had been converted to be a salt spreader by CTA, then a restoration team spent over a decade bringing 1374 back to life as a streetcar.

Chicago Surface Lines 3142, a 42'2" long streetcar that seats 48. It was built by the J.G. Brill Company in 1923. The white stripe visible on the end identifies this as a one-man car. This makes it a valuable asset to IRM's weekday operating department as a weekday service car when manpower is short.

Chicago Transit Authority Green Hornet PCC (President's Conference Committee) 4391, a streetcar built in 1948 by the St. Louis Car Company. Out of the 600-car postwar PCC fleet, 4391 is the only survivor; 570 were rebuilt into rapid transit "L" cars when they were no longer needed as streetcars. They were 53' long, four feet longer than a standard PCC streetcar. This was to accommodate the new rear boarding platform. The cars were 9' wide, three inches wider than previous Chicago streetcars, and because they had to run on closely-spaced existing tracks, the cars were mounted on their trucks 1-1/2" off center to the right for clearance. There were 4,978 PCC streetcars built in the USA, 683 for Chicago

Illinois Terminal 415. The 46'6" car was built in 1924 as a single-ended car by the St. Louis Car Company for the Illinois Valley Railroad (a subsidiary of the Illinois Traction System, later IT). It was later transferred to the IT in the St. Louis area, and converted to be a double-ended, one-man car for use in suburban service.

Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee line car 604 and Wisconsin Electric Power Company locomotive L4. The 40'2" line car was built by the Chicago & Milwaukee Electric in 1914, and the 31'8" steeple-cab by the TMER&L in 1920. The 604 was used to maintain NSL's overhead trolley wire and catenary; at IRM it continued its career as a line car, hanging and maintaining our overhead for nearly four decades.

An elderly blonde lived on a small farm in Canada, just yards away from the North Dakota border. Their land had been the subject of a minor dispute between the United States and Canada for years. The now widowed blonde, lived on the farm with her son and three grandchildren.
One day, her son came into her room holding a letter. "I just got some news, Mom," he said. "The government has come to an agreement with the people in Washington. They've decided that our land is really part of the United States. We have the right to approve or disapprove of the agreement. What do you think?"
" What do I think?" his blonde mother said. "Sign it! Call them right now and tell them we accept! I don't think I could stand another one of those Canadian winters!"

[siberianmo]

Courtesy: http://www.viarail.ca/

 

G'day Gents!

Saturday at the Bar by the Ballast and time to fill up that mug with some fresh coffee. Check out the pastries over in The Mentor Village Bakery case and of course enjoy a <light> or <traditional> breakfast to begin the day!

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day! And of course, the bar is CLOSED on Sundays.

Spring has sprung the grass has rizz, I wonder where the birdies is. They say the bird is on the wing, but that's absurd, the wing is on the bird!

Supposed to reach 80 (F) ‘round here and petrol is down to $2.29 (rounded). Should be a decent weekend . . . . hope it is for all of you too!

Happy 60^th B'day weekend to the U.S. Air Force and all who served ‘n are serving! I must be really O-L-D, as it seems like "yesterday" it was called the Army Air Corps!

This is a MUST read for those interested in VIA Rail's continuing "flap" with the courts and their Renaissance cars (Chunnel Chuggers):

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/03/23/via-disabled.html

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

Lars at 11:53 AM yesterday: Kept wondering if we'd see our WVA Connection and then you appeared with the "Lars Report" from the east.

Thanx for sharing the info on BK, seems that they don't let any grass grow, eh

The Tony LaRussa incident has gotten quite a "play" here in the St. Louis area (as expected). Sentiments running very strong in favor of leaving the guy alone and concentrating on the team rather than him. Couldn't agree more with what you've had to say and if not for the grace of the Almighty, there go I (and a whole bunch of guys I once knew!).

Blues got totally whammied the other night by the officials and there's little doubt that the NHL has some serious work to do when it comes to officiating. This stuff is out of hand and commonplace. No wonder the fans are staying away in many cities . . . the ticket prices are unreal - the quality of play in many cases is rather poor - too many teams and now the Oh-fish-E-8-ting has gone into the crapper. So how do I really feel

As said a few zillion times, no point in wondering aloud anymore regarding guys who "used to be." It IS distressing, it IS disappointing and it DOES make one wonder. But, let's just focus on those who are with us NOW and go from there . . . . guys do what guys WANT to do. Things CHANGE, for all of us. RIP sez I.

Thanx for your continuing support and of course, the RI Pix . . . nice way to cap the Post!

 

Pete at 5:31 PM yesterday: ‘tis indeed a "puzzlement" to note the continuing interest in our original Thread as the numbers continue to mount for those browsing. Who knows what the motivation is amongst those who peek in, but say nothing

The liveries and heralds of the Fallen Flag passenger roads all hold a certain allure. However, far few "do it" for me better than an Alco in the D&H blue.

Jefferson City is a fine place for train watching. My only experiences out there in that regard were when waiting for a late arriving Amtrak to return me to Kirkwood. Longest wait was 4 hours for what was supposed to be a 40 minute turn around for a round-trip. Ah, the good ole daze - now we can't even do a turn around without having to spend the entire day there. <boo hiss>

Bar Chandler exam Nahhhhhhh, we'll just put you before the "board" and rapid-fire some questions at you. With each correct answer, you receive a pint of your choice - for each incorrect answer, a trip to Boris' Shed for clean-up and clean-out duties. <uh oh>

Boris and hamburger preparation just doesn't "go." <ugh> Wasn't he out back the other night picking up the "skat" from the critters hanging ‘round the patio????? <oooooooooooh> Yeah, no charge for the extra-flavoring. <grin>

Thanx for swinging by . . .

 

Doug at 7:53 PM yesterday: More D&H - good stuff, fer sure, fer sure! Appreciate, as always, having you aboard!

Builders, contractors and new homes. Why IS IT that these three things most times wind up being spelled "hemorrhoid" ????? Surely hope this isn't "on you" and that the responsible party (ies) are ponying up the cash to pay for the remedies.

As always, thanx for taking the time . . .

 

Eric at 2:13 AM today: Man oh man, you ARE still at it well after mid-night!! You're giving Night Owls cause for concern!

Thanx for the elaboration on the Pix in question from Sweden. Figgered that much out, but had no clue regarding the type cars, etc.

I'll let you in on a secret . . . I'm not "big" on fish, either! However, I detest "junk food" and McGrease is at the bottom of my list of things to consume. <grin>

Enjoy your trip to the AFB and I'm sure you'll enjoy what you see. All of you "zoomies" are alike in that respect!

Route 66: I have a "little something" for anyone coming to

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and gents! I'll have a light breakfast please. Eric got us off and running today, as has been his custom, and sent us some mighty fine pix. We surely have a foggy day in Chicago today, but here are some more pix from the 2006 Trolley Pageant (The color ones are mine) when the weather was more cooperative at the IRM last summer:

Chicago Transit Authority wood cars: 1808, 1754 and 1268. Each car is 47'2" long and can seat 48.. CTA 1754 was built by the Jewett Car Company in 1906, while American Car & Foundry delivered 1808 and 1268 a year later. These cars, among the last "woods" to operate on the CTA, were based at Linden Avenue in Wilmette for service on the Evanston Extension

WEPCo L7; this is a double-end, double-truck steeple-cab freight motor that was built in 1931 by-and-for The Milwaukee Electric Railway & Light Company, and it was later owned by the Wisconsin Electric Power Company. One odd feature of this, and several other Former "TM," locos is that they carry a long "extension cord" - actually a spooled power cable.  The car's long cable extends its range on spur tracks not equipped with trolley wire. Our L7 rides on Brill MCB (Master Car Builder) trucks; it's 31'8" long and weighs 74,140 pounds.

Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee 229; the 50'express motor was built by Cincinnati CarCompany in 1922 for package and express service. In the 1930-40s, it was one of the motors used to pull the NSL Ferry Truck trains (the first trailer-on-flat-car, TOFC, service in the US). The line carried 18,314 trailers in 1945, but as more shippers turned to the highways this service ended in 1947.

Chicago Transit Authority 4290 and 4410. Built by the Cincinnati Car Company in 1922 for the Chicago Rapid Transit Co., these 48'6" cars, seating 52, ran on the Lake Street elevated line

Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee 714-160 train. The 714, seating 56, was built by the Cincinnati Car Company in 1926. The 160 was built by J.G. Brill Company in 1915. It seats 58. These interurban cars have been restored in variations of the so-called Greenliner color scheme (as many referred to the NSL's green schemes after the Silverliner scheme was introduced in 1951)

A large company, feeling it was time for a shakeup, hired a new CEO. This new boss was determined to rid the company of all slackers. On a tour of the facilities, the CEO noticed a guy leaning on a wall. The room was full of workers and he wanted to let them know that he meant business. He walked up to the guy leaning against the wall and asked, "How much money do you make a week?"
A little surprised, the young fellow looked at him and replied, "I make $300 a week. Why?"
The CEO then handed the guy $1,200 in cash and screamed, "Here's four weeks' pay, now GET OUT and don't come back!"
Feeling pretty good about himself, the CEO looked around the room and asked, "Does anyone want to tell me what that goof-off did here?"
From across the room came a voice,
"Pizza delivery guy from Domino's."

[EricX2000]

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, Friday night! I'll have... no wait. I'll have that medium cooked Filet Mignon and mushrooms! You know, it's Friday only once a week. Don't worry, be happy!!

This Saturday I will not be thinking too much of trains. We are going to Luke Air Force Base to celebrate the 60th Anniversary of the U.S. Air Force! It will be very interesting!

Tom –  Trolley pix? Those “trolleys” are actually something in between a DMU and a rail car (Classes Y6 & Y7) built for use on branch lines (with low allowed axle load) with too few people traveling motivating regular locomotive hauled passenger trains. They were built in the 1953-1961 and the last ones were taken out of service 1989. Anyway, the pix was taken in a city (Lidköping) located roughly halfway between Stockholm and Gothenburg. A little bit closer to Gothenburg though.

I feel sorry for you if you can’t sleep through the night. I am happy to say that I don’t have that kind of problem (yet).

Thanks for the Rock Islands info! I did not know they had a route all the way to Tucumcari, NM! Not a day without learning something new here at the bar! Nice pictures of the Aerotrain and locomotives!

Lars –  Hey, you better be careful! I saw Ruth standing outside the jewelry store with a dreaming smile in her face,while she was looking at those golden items in the window!!

Two nice book covers and I am sure those books are good as well!

Pete –  Tom is right, the picture is from Sweden. I took it in 1968.

I read about the new speed record. I don’t think we ever will see any regular High Speed Trains will be running at speeds over 300 mph. It will cost way too much to build and maintain tracks capable of handling trains at that speed every day.

I think Arizona has most miles of the original Route 66 left of all states it ran through.

So the Irish are still running GM locomotives? Only GM or a mix?

Fish & Chips? To be honest, fish is more meant to be cat food in my opinion. No,no, don’t hit me but cats like fish and I am not big on it.

Doug –  I hope you have seen the last of your problems by now! You bought a brand new house, it should not have that kind of problems. But it is a little bit like bying a new car, sometimes things break down even with just a few miles on it. Thanks for the round!

This segment of Delaware & Hudson is very interesting! But I would not like to use that inspection car in the wintertime! I am looking forward to next segement!

The ICE-train.

A locomotive depot.

Arizona.

What state?

Class Y6.

 

Eric

 

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and gang. I'll have a bottomless draught if you please and buy a round for the house. Thanks to all who have expressed concern over my durned flooded basement. It's mostly dry, but I don't think we've seen the last of our problems. Eric is right about not being able to use the padding anymore. The carpet will probably be OK, if I can catch a break with a few dry days, so I can spread it out over the driveway to dry.

Looks like a bit of activity here today. James pulled a surprise move and put up an article that wasn't Milwaukee Road, and somebody turned on the Rock Island machine, with some posts from our Captain and Moon Pie Lars. I have another segment of the D&H, which follows:

Delaware and Hudson by William L. Rhode April 1947 Railroad Magazine

Official observation car, Number 80, used to speed down the old gravity line. Note graceful roof curve and wicker backs of swivel deck chairs.

During the early nineteenth century, the cities of Albany and Troy, N.Y. engaged in open commercial hostility. Albany contributed to the construction of roads like the Mohawk & Hudson and the Saratoga and Schenectady in order to coax trade and travel its way. Troy, not to be outdone by Albany, incorporated the Rensselaer & Saratoga. The charter permitted the construction of a bridge across the Hudson River, a valuable adjunct to Troy. The formal opening of the section from Waterford to Ballston Spa on August 18^th, 1835, was attended by two military companies and marked by a derailment. On the following day service commenced with two trains each way daily, fare one dollar to Ballston Spa and $1.25 to Saratoga Springs.

Freeman Hunt, noted traveler of the period wrote from the Mansion House in Troy, May 11^th, 1836:

"Yesterday I took a seat in one of the passenger cars, on the new railroad, from Ballston. He road now extends to Saratoga and will, I venture to predict, become the most fashionable route, as indeed it is the most interesting, to the Springs ..."

"There are twenty-four cars made in Troy by those famous coach builders, Gilbert, Veazie and Eaton, and belonging to the company. They are sufficiently high within for the passengers to stand erect, the whole divided into three apartments; the seats of which are cushioned and backed with crimson morocco, trimmed with coach lace; each apartment is surrounded by moveable panels ... Within the panels are "transferred" some of the most splendid productions of the ancient and modern masters. The tout ensemble is more like a moveable gallery of fine arts, than like a train of railroad cars ...

"Connected with the cars are two beautiful locomotives, the Erie and the Champlain.

After describing the bridge across the Hudson from Troy to Green Island, Hunt continued: "On Hawver Island may be seen the remains of an old fort thrown up in the Revolutionary War ... The passage over the island to Waterford and indeed the whole route to Ballston and Saratoga Springs is really delightful. Ten, too, the agents of the railroad are civil to passengers and more than usually attentive to the locomotives."

The fact is not stated by Hunt, who certainly must have traveled on a pass, but the cars were drawn by horses from the terminus in Troy across the bridge to Green Island, where a steam locomotive was coupled on.

The R&S, with its cars of "beautiful fawn color, with buff shading, painted in rose, pink, and gold borders, and deep lake shading, and small mouldings of delicate stripes of vermillion and opaque black," must have moved the holders of the Saratoga & Schenectady with envy, for they promptly obtained control of it through stock purchase. With the establishment of no-change service to Saratoga Springs, the Renssalaer & Saratoga became a link in the fastest service between New York and Montreal; and remains such today, under the Delaware & Hudson.

Passenger train on Adirondack Company's rails in 1865, when only 25 of the projected 125 miles were laid and in operation.

Twenty years later, under an agreement between the Troy & Boston, the Troy and Rutland, and the Rutland & Washington, the R&S opened a route between Troy and Rutland, Vt. A similar arrangement, although over slightly different track age, exists today between Delaware & Hudson and Boston & Maine.

The R&S obtained control of the Saratoga & Whitehall Company in 1864. This property, which included the Rutland & Whitehall Railroad from the New York-Vermont state line to Castleton, Vt., increased R&S track age a total of 113 miles. Consolidation added the Troy, Salem & Rutland to the system. Upon the conclusion of a favorable contract with the Lake George Steamboat Company for traffic through Lake George, the railroad aided in rebuilding two large hotels in Saratoga Springs. Further extension took place in 1868 when the Champlain Transportation Company was absorbed. The year was also notable for the conversion of wood-burning locomotives to coal and the purchase of additional engines of the new type.

The system stretched to 181 miles with the acquisition of stock in the Glenn Falls Rail Road Company ion 1869. Soon afterward American steel rails came into use A year later, the Delaware & Hudson Canal Company proposed leasing the R&S, together with its accumulated and assorted holdings. The lease, in perpetuity, became effective May 1^st, 1871.

The Delaware & Hudson was no longer called the little coal hauler of 1840. An ever increasing flow of black gold out of the company holdings and over company transportation systems had brought expansion in all directions. Two major steps taken in 1838 had placed the science of railroading far ahead of its previous position. In a single year, eight-wheel coaches and cars came rapidly into use and, secondly, the steam locomotive proved itself efficient on steep grades. When William Norris ran his locomotive, the Washington, up the steep ascent on the Columbia Railroad hauling a tender and two cars containing fifty-three passengers, the doom of inclined planes and stationary engines, except in very rare circumstances, was assured.

D&H passenger of early Eighties at Albany Station illustrates continuous policy of improving rail equipment. Number 203 was built by Scranton Mfg. Co.

From 1842 to 1850 the D&H knew steady but unspectacular improvement. Nor was its course all business and finance. Sites were donated for churches in Honesdale and Carbondale. A steamboat, the Delaware, burned the company's own coal on its run between Kingston and New York. Further land was donated for the Seat of Justice of Wayne County. In 1844, the company's banking privilege expired, halting the use of distinctive tens and fifties with their paddle-wheel steamer and early sweater girl engravings. In spite of the fact that the railroad was necessary to haul coal "over the hump," the canal still received most of the directors' attention. Exclusive of tools, it cost 1 1 ½ cents per ton per mile to move traffic via the canal as against 2 ½ cents by rail and fifteen cents over turnpike roads. (To be continued)

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holden's Mild to start with please RUTH, and the Steak and Fries for later..

DOUG Real sorry to hear of the basement water problems,glad the new pump is working OK and I hope there was not a lot of damage.

JAMES Many thanks for the first part of the Nothern Pacific Railway.It is interesting to read about the building of the line,I had not realised about General Custer and the Little Big Horn involvement. Looking forward to the next installment and the report of your Chicago trip.

ERIC Enjoying your photo quizzes. As Tom has said Sweden I will try Germany or France, like the roundhouse in the background.

Talking of France,one of their new Double -Deck TGVs built for the new, yet to be opened EST high speed line has set a new speed record for conventional trains of 343MPH.The overall rail record is held by a Japanese MAGLEV. 

There must be a lot of places where Route 66 runs along side a railroad. On Tom's and my Amtrak trip from St Louis to Chicago Route 66 follows the line for quite a long distance, although there is a new divided highway running alongside the old road.

The Irish have stayed loyal to GM locomotives ever since they installed a GM 12-645E engine in their class 001 or A class. these locos were originally built in the mid 1950s and were rebuilt in 1968 to 1971. These locos are no longer in service, but some have been preserved.

LARS Glad you could make it in last evening after the computer problems,The bride had some probs with the on line shopping, it certainly is annoying to do a load on the puter press the send and it disappears.

Thanks for passing on BK's regards,hopefully it wont be too long before BK can enjoy a drink with us at the bar again. .

Looks like I had better prepare for the Bar Chandler exam.I don't suppose we will ever find out what was inn the note RUTH passed to you

I wonder what State the painting on the Rock Island book is in,it looks to me like the Mid-west although the title is in the South.

TOM Enjoyed the Rock Island Fallen flag Encore.Perhaps they mave have some pictures of the RI in Missouri between Kansas City and St Louis at the library in  the Universary at the rendezvous. I must admit I am undecided on the the Rocket livery on the diesel loco though,probably been seeing that great D&H livery lately.

Idiot of the Week is a good one this week, perhaps they could get some traffic lights and train the deer to work the buttons with their antlers.

It would be indeed interesting to know who is still finding the old Our Place and looking through the posts, it really is amazing the number of views since the start of the year and it does not seem to be slowing down, if only some of those who are obviously enjoying reading the posts would just call in and say HI at the bar.

As to the 'hamburger' dont tell Eric but I believe it was made by the fair hand of BORIS, as H&H were a bit miffed about not having the fish 'n' chips, which were very good last night.

Talking of I will have the Steak now LEON, a Bathams Bitter to wash it down, and then to make sure the bar stays well stocked for the track gang

Pete.

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH you are as loveRly as evAH and does me good to bask in your glow!

Now, where was I???? Ah yes, a tankard of Keiths or me and a round for the house. Time for a Larsman special hero sandwich of ham, Swiss, mustAHd 'n buttAH with two large pickles from the barrel. Treats for the critters of course and a small jar of pickled pig's feet for Boris. Don't want him to think that the large jar is an everyday thing . . . By all means, keep the change!

First off, I received an e-mail from BK (also noted that Tom got a copy) and he says that they've been away. In fact he sent it off from Edmonton. They've made the "rounds" for whatever purposes his Mrs. has (she is either still working or semi-retired, or . . .) At any rate, he mentioned some difficulty in getting onto the forums at the end of last week B4 they took off. Guess he found that leased aircraft, for he did mention the flight to Calgary as on the rough side with Lydia wondering if her knuckles would ever return to normal color! <grin> Passed on his regards to what's left of the "gang" here at the bar.

Second, I think this is the 3rd week (again) of trolleyboy Rob's continuing absence. Last I recall, he mentioned something about taking a Via Rail trip to Toronto with his Mrs. just for the day. Didn't he take a week off or something? Anyway, haven't heard a thing since and no replies to my e-mail. Soooooooooo, guess Pete will indeed assume the awesome duties of Bar Chandler, that is if Cap'n Tom feels he's ready. <grin>

Did anyone happen to notice the writeup from last night's hockey game up in Boston? Seems that the Montreal guys put it to 'em at the Gahden (or whatever it's called these days) and beat 'em with 5 unanswered goals. Bet that place was as silent as a morgue . . .

The sports news is still all about Tony LaRussa and his arrest for DUI down in Florida. Hey! I'm not making light of it, he got caught where many of us simply didn't. But the crap I've heard ranges from "acts of contrition" that would make a brass monkey's head turn 'round to volunteering his time to community service and so on. Can you believe it??? Then there are those who seem to think he needs counselling and rehab. Yeah right, as if everyone who takes a snort has a problem. Sure, he screwed up and did so royally. Sound asleep in an intersection with his foot on the brake pedal and the transmission in drive ain't a good thing. Just a hair's difference between that situation and one far, far worse. I think the man said it right in his statement and now it's up to the courts to meter out the punishment. Tony is a good man and will overcome, in my oh-pin-yun.

In looking through the contributions since my last, doesn't appear as if much has changed from whatever we call the "norm" at this joint. Used to be we had the Tuesday "theme" thing locked in by now, but it looks to me as if that's in the crapper, at least for a bit.

Nice stuff from young James, which could just have easily been our next "theme." Northern Pacific is a gudun, for sure.

"The Rock" from Cap'n Tom looks good too! Love the pix . . . A mighty fine road, someone once sang.

One more brew, Ruth, then I'm heading over to the Manager's table to catch up on the ever present paper work . . . . <arrrrghhh>

 

 

 

Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day!

 

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #9

A form of this was initially Posted on Page 118 of the original Thread 

 

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

 

Here's another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific (The Rock Island)

 

Headquarters:  Chicago, IL

 

Mileage in 1950:  7,579

 

Locomotives in 1963:  Diesel - 539

 

Rolling stock in 1963:  Freight cars - 26,690; Passenger cars - 646

 

Principal routes in 1950:

 

Chicago-Omaha, NE

Omaha-Colorado Springs & Denver, CO

Davenport, IA-Tucumcari, NM

Bureau Junction-Peoria, IL

Minneapolis, MN-Kansas City, MO

Manly-Burlington, IA

Cedar Rapids (Vinton), IA-Sioux Falls, SD

Keokuk, IA-Bear Lake, SD

Tucumcari-Memphis, TN

Herington, KS-Houston, TX

Little Rock, AR-Eunice, LA

Kansas City-St. Louis

 

Passenger trains of note:

 

Choctaw Rocket (Amarillo, TX-Memphis)

Corn Belt Rocket (Chicago-Omaha)

Des Moines Rocket (Chicago-Des Moines, IA)

Golden State (Chicago-LA; joint ops w/SP)

The Imperial (Chicago-LA)

Kansas City Rocket (Minneapolis-Kansas City)

Peoria Rockets (Chicago-Peoria)

Texas Rocket (Ft. Worth-Houston; then Kansas City-Dallas)

Twin Star Rocket (Minneapolis-Houston)

Quad City Rocket (Chicago-Rock Island)

Rocky Mountain Rocket (Chicago-Colorado Springs & Denver)

Zephyr Rocket (Minneapolis-St. Louis; joint ops w/CB&Q)

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Rock Island EMD E8A #652 (courtesy: www.cvma.org - foto credit: unknown)  

 

Rock Island Aero Train #2 (courtesy: www.cvma.org - foto credit: Wade Calvert)

 

Rock Island EMC E3A #625 (courtesy: www.cvma.org - foto credit: unknown)

 

Enjoy!

 

Tom

[siberianmo]

Courtesy: http://www.viarail.ca/

*Idiot of the Week #8

I live in a semi-rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the 

local township administrative office to request the removal of the 

Deer Crossing sign on our road. The reason: "Too many deer are being 

hit by cars out here! I don't think this is a good place for them to 

be crossing anymore."

 From Kingman , KS .

STAY ALERT!

They walk among us .. and they REPRODUCE ..!!!

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 G'day Gents!

As with sunrise ‘n sunset, one can always count on the arrival of the end of the work week (for many) - Friday!

So, time again to begin the day with our freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and of course a breakfast selection of a <light> or <traditional> feast from our Menu Board!

Been hearing some not-so-flattering "stuff" about Wikipedia lately. Of course, those reporting on it most probably do not understand how that particular resource is designed or intended to be used. As with most things "cyber" on surely wouldn't want to "bank" on the material always being "right on." As we've seen several times, most recently from Eric, there are mistakes and much room for improvement. So as is said, "Buyer beware!"

For anyone who wishes to research material over on the original Thread, use this URL for quick access as that site is rapidly fading into the abyss of Forum's history:

http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/451/991587/ShowPost.aspx#991587

If you know the Page number, just insert it where "451" is and you will be directed to it! 

Otherwise this URL will take you to the last Page. 

Still is getting lots of "hits" though . . . . when we shut ‘er down the count was at 163,151 - check it out now, you'll be surprised!

A reminder: Anytime you wish to find that URL (above), just go to Page 1 of this Thread and check out the FIRST Post - it's near the bottom.

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

CM3 at 9:31 AM yesterday: You Sir perhaps "stumbled upon" one of the "mysteries of life" as you saw the Post that wasn't! How in the world THAT happened, we'll never know. I did NOT Post that named train list, but rather was trying to get it to come up as a PREVIEW, then all of a sudden my ‘puter locked up and crashed. Next thing ya know, I couldn't log on to the Forums, couldn't even get it to come up. Tried it on the PC and it worked, but I never saw the Post that you saw. Finally got the laptop to "work" after doing some "cleaning" et al. Just a strange, strange thing. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it - no matter the iteration!

As with the "flap" over Wikipedia, I generally shy away from "adding or subtracting" from someone else's endeavors. It surely is a go no where situation with so many "cyber experts" out there. However, I generally try to make sure that there's a caveat of sorts to indicate that "lists" and the like are not all inclusive, just to leave the door ajar . . .

Now having said all of THAT: knowing you and the keen eye you have coupled with the knowledge base, I'm sure yours is absolutely on track! (on track - get it??)

Thanx for the round, quarters and Post!

 

James at 11:53 AM yesterday: The man from Duluth has returned and did so with a most appropriate and inclusive Post. How were you to know that our Manager couldn't make it in for his "slot"?? Nicely done! So, how were things in Chicago???

 

Pete at 4:56 PM today: On the "good side" of Lars?? Hmmmmm, that may take some doing! <grin>

That "list" was back in the 40s, so there's no telling when the "Mules" kicked in (get it??). Anyway, as we've discussed over on the original Thread, a train with a name somehow adds to the "special" feeling one gets, eh Does for me!

That topography looks an awful lot like New Mexico or Arizona from my trips through those states. We'll just have to wait ‘n see what Eric has to say.

Thanks, as always, for stopping by in the mid to late afternoon "slot"!

 

Doug at 7:32 PM today: And the beat goes on for our Illinois Connection. Appears as if you are pickin' up from where Lars left off. Isn't it just wunnerful being a home owner?? Of course it is - but there are times. <grrrrrrrrrrr> Surely hope this doesn't set you back too much in cash and good nature!

Appreciate your taking the time to think of us! Now THAT sez it all. Have a COUPLE on me! Ring it Boris!!

 

Lars at 7:33 PM today: Posted one minute after the barn weevil! Now you couldn't have planned it better, eh? So, you also had some difficulties with the ‘puter AND the Forums. Hmmmmmm. Crazy fer sure.

I've had similar episodes ordering things for my bride through the J. C. Pe

[EricX2000]

Good morning Captain Tom and all!!

Nice to sit down for a little bit. Leon, I think I would like a 1/2 pound Cheese burger tonight! With everything! Curly fries, please! 

A rainy day and night in Phoenix, so it is nice to just sit dwon for a while. Kind of quiet day here today, but still railroad info to read!

Tom –  The picture was taken between Holbrook and Flagstaff, AZ. BNSF line along old Route 66!

I bet it is Juneau who has changed your habits so you aren’t a “night owl’ anymore. Right?

Thank you for the list of Named Passenger trains! I have copied it!

CM3 –  The link works fine and I agree, it is a very informative and complete website! Thank you so much. I have bookmarked it! After checking that site I certainly would like to see your notebooks!!

Thanks for all information on the D&H motive power! I love that kind of info!

James –  You are a little bit off, the picture was taken between Holbrook and Flagstaff, AZ. The mountains you see in the background is the San Francisco Mts, just north of Flagstaff. The railroad is BNSF.

Thanks for the Northern Pacific article! Looking forward to the remaining parts.

Pete –  Yes, I consider the answer Mike provided being correct. I am not even going to try to guess what the price difference may be between an Irish gauge diesel and a standard gauge one.

You are absolutely correct about my picture! Taken in Arizona (Interstate 40) west of Holbrook, on the way to Flagstaff. I will inform the Grand Prize Jury!

Doug –  Sorry to hear about your flooded basement. Can you really use the carpet again?

Looking forward to the rest of the article!

Lars –  Thanks for the round! A note from Ruth?! I just don’t want to know what it says, but I can imagine! I am stunned!

I think that is a good idea, to discuss Acela at the Rendezvous!

 

Eric 

[CMSTPP]

G-day Tom and all present!

Leon- I will take a coffee please. BTW: good to see you.

Well I see many are wondering how my trip was. It's was fun and its a long story. But I am going to leave that for tomorrow because I don't have a lot of time at the moment. But I will explain the whole story tomorrow.

I just came to drop off an article. This is 1 of 3 so enjoy.

The Northern Pacific.

The Northern Pacific was chartered on July 2, 1864 as the first northern transcontinental railroad in the United States. It was granted some 47,000,000 acres (190,000 km²) of land in exchange for building rail transportation to an undeveloped territory. Josiah Perham (for whom Perham, Minnesota is named) was elected its first president on December 7, 1864.

For the next six years, backers of the road struggled to find financing. Though John Gregory Smith succeeded Perham as president on January 5, 1866, groundbreaking did not take place until February 15, 1870, at Thompson Junction, Minnesota, 25 miles (40 km) west of Duluth, Minnesota. The backing and promotions of famed Civil War financier Jay Cooke in the summer of 1870 brought the first real momentum to the company.

Over the course of 1870, the Northern Pacific pushed westward from Minnesota into present-day North Dakota. It also began reaching from Kalama, Washington Territory, on the Columbia River outside of Portland, Oregon, towards Puget Sound. Four small construction engines were purchased, the Minnetonka, Itaska, Ottertail and St. Cloud, the first of which was shipped to Kalama by ship around Cape Horn. In Minnesota, the Lake Superior and Mississippi Railroad completed construction of its 155 mile (250 km) line stretching from St. Paul, Minnesota, to Lake Superior at Duluth in 1870. It was leased to the Northern Pacific the following year, and was eventually absorbed by the Northern Pacific.

In 1871, Northern Pacific completed some 230 miles (370 km) of railroad on the east end of its system, reaching out to Moorhead, Minnesota, on the North Dakota border. In the west, the track extended 25 miles north from Kalama. Surveys were carried out in North Dakota protected by 600 troops from General Winfield Scott Hancock. Headquarters and shops were established in Brainerd, Minnesota, a town named for the President John Gregory Smith's wife Anna Elizabeth Brainerd.

In 1872, the company put down 164 miles (264 km) of main line across North Dakota, with an additional 45 miles (72 km) in Washington. On November 1, General George Washington Cass became the third president of the company. Cass had been a vice-president and director of the Pennsylvania Railroad, and would lead the Northern Pacific through some of its most difficult times. Attacks on survey parties and construction crews building into Native American homelands in North Dakota became so prevalent the company appealed for Army protection from President

[LoveDomes]

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Really enjoyed that looooooooong listing of the named trains from our leader - nicely done Herr Kapitan and it surely brought to mind the reality of a past that is really gone-zo. Bitter sweet, huh

Leon, 'tis the Larsman with a thirst that needs quenching - how 'bout TWO Keiths, one frosty mug and two bottles will do! Nah, nothing to eat, but you can slide the snack trays down my way.

What a day this has been, what an unbelievable day. Let me just focus on the internet. The Mrs. wanted me to order "a few things" from her favorite department store (Macy's). So off we go to cyber land. As the Cap'n would say <arrrrgggghhhh> <double arrrrgggghhhh>. Couldn't get the thing to take the order, after going through all the "motions" of selecting this 'n that, going here 'n there, and so forth. Shopping cart was so full that I need a couple of pages. Hit "enter" and zappo - gone-zo - vanished - ka-putski! <arrrrgggghhhh> <double arrrrgggghhhh>

If that wasn't enough, I tried to check the bar and kept getting a message to the effect that "This forum does not exist" - or something like that. I could call up every single thread, but not ours. Every time I clicked on it, that message came up. This kept up for most of the morning and well into early afternoon. Not that I was doing ONLY that. But ya know how it is when this stuff begins, it becomes rather obsessive, dontchaknow! <arrrggghhh> <double arrrggghhh>

Then about 15 minutes ago, I tried to call up the bar and guess what? Here I am - go figure! <arrrrgggghhhh> <double arrrrgggghhhh>

On the sports front: How about Tony LaRussa???? That must've been one loooooooooong traffic light!

Hey, every guy I know has "been there, done something like that," so I'm not being judgmental. Of all the "personalities" in sports, he's the LAST guy I wudda picked for a DUI.

Read where the Blues got screwed big time in a game the other night. They had TWO goals taken away that were clearly "in" upon review by the Oh-fficals up in Toronto. Man oh man, calling the NHL a "garage league" does indeed have some merit. Awful.

Noted the return of young James to the group and he couldn't have picked a better 'slot' - mine! We're waiting for that "Chicago report" - but anything you come up with will surely be of interest.

Eric, sounds like May isn't going to work for Acela, I mean given the Rendezvous, etc. Perhaps we can kick this around when we meet as I'd love to take it up to Boston 'n return. A bit of coordination and who knows, we could rendezvous aboard like Tom 'n Pete do when the go to Kansas City.

Always like reading the "word" from Shane and I expect his Sports Report will be something to look forward to. Opening day sounds just 'bout right to me!

Hey Pete! You've never, ever been on my "bad side." Just wonder about that Brit work ethic from time to time. <grin> Oh yeah, I KNOW, you're retired and have earned the right. No dispute with that, mate! However, to love this bar is to be here not in Kansas City and places where you can't access the joint.

Sorry boys 'n girls, but I really have to check out. The Mrs. is on my case once again! It never stops. Oh what the heck - Leon, gimme one more, she can wait! I think a small platter of fish 'n chips should go down quite well too! <grin>

Ring the bell, Boris, time for a round on me!

What's this???? A note from Ruth behind the bar for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

 

Until the next time!

Lars

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have a bottomless draught, which you can set next to my new fangled laptop, and of course buy a round for the house. I picked the laptop yesterday, but improper set-up kept me off the internet. The Geek Squad realized their mistake, and now it's working just fine! There was another small problem yesterday too. My *** sump pump didn't kick in during all the rain we were having, and my basement flooded. All the carpet had to come up, and the padding especially was soaked. It sure is a mess down there. Anyhow, I have a new pump, and we're dry again, but have a lot to do to get things tidy again. Sheesh.

Moving along, I see that Mike really came through with D&H history and pictures, complimented by information from CM3. I need to get busy on the next segment of the article. Hopefully everyone will get answers to their questions as the article progresses. (I hope)

Quite a list of train names from Captain Tom. Great effort, to be sure.

Please forgive my hasty departure. I have to drag in the wet carpet that was drying on our driveway.

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please RUTH and some Fish 'N' Chips for later please.

MIKE Interesting post on L.F. Loree who had the golden touch when it came to making money.Many thanks for the links to the great color photos.Very much enjoyed the links to the Irish Railways and for answering the Gauge question. The map on the first link showing the map of the demise of the Irish railway system since 1925 is very sad though.Even today though the Irish railways seem to have a charm of their own still, it must have been a wonderful experience to travel on those lines, especially the narrow gauge, in the 1920s and 30s.

Mike,s Railway History( any relation) is a great piece which I will return to.On one of our trips on the RPSI Irish steam tour, the day before the steam trip we had a tour around the Dublin area to places of railway interest, the transport were 2 preserved buses one of which was a ex Great Northern Railway bus still in the company's colours, simular to the one in the link.

ERIC I think Mike has answered the gauge question..I still find it strange that 5 ft 3 inch was chosen as surely most of the lines in the UK and those in North America were settling on the 4ft 8 1/2 inches. I wonder how much more it costs to make a Irish gauge diesel than a standard gauge one from GM, and did GM have a 5ft 3inch test track I wonder.

Was your photo taken in Arizona.

CM3 Enjoyed reading about the D&H diesels.They must have been a great sight in that livery, one of the best in my humble opinion. Many thanks for that link, it loaded OK and I have added it to my favorites. It explains why I have not seen a loco in the D&RGW livery lately as it says there is only one diesel left in those colors.

Glad to see you back in JAMES, how was the Chicago trip. Did you notice in the link to the Irish Tramway there was a photo of the Fintona horse drawn tram it lasted until 1957 and was always horse drawn for it's over 100 years existance, probably not by the same horse though.

TOM A super list of the Named Trains. The Pennsy alone having 78 of them. I guess the post war period must have been the golden era of North American rail travel a Classic age indeed. I noticed the GULL seemed a popular name with 4 of the roads using it. I guess the Missouri Mule must be a fairly recent name..

It is hard to think of any one else in the lead roles in My Fair Lady than Rex and Julie.I bet it was a mavellous show on Broadway.

Well it seems I have beat my boss LARS in today so I will make a good impression and make sure the bar is well stocked for the weekend, but first the Fish 'N' Chip , please H&H and a Bathams to wash it down with RUTH.

Pete . 

[CMSTPP]

G-day Tom and all present!

Ruth- I'm soooo glad to see you again. I haven't been here for a while so I'm going to start off with a coffee and a Turkey sandwich with the works. Thanks

Okay I am back and ready for a little conversation. Sorry for my longer absence than usual. I was getting things put and set straight around the homestead and at work.

But I'm back to have some fun. I will start off with the first page and work my way back to when I first left off.

Tom- Good to see you're still at it with the Nostalgia. This time on the New York Central. Sounded like a nice little ride and Hostess service too Thanks for sharing. Also really enjoyed looking over the names of some of those passenger trains. One such passenger train that I liked was with the C&NW. the Duluth-Superior Limited. I think of like that name. Also liked the Milwaukee's names too. Especially the Afternoon "Hi" and Olympian "Hi". Some pretty nice passenger trains in there. Thanks for sharing.

CM3- Interesting little article on the D&H S2s. Those little guys got around. I was even surprised to read that some were built to slug units. I would have never thought that since they're so small. Smaller than an SW1. I will have to read your article on the other page and see what you have there. But thanks for info given.

Lars- A very good piece on the Aero train and the history behind it. I've wonder, even with the shape of that thing, how it ever got up to speed. I thought the cab/locomotive portion sticking up above the cars would actually slow it down. But it didn't. Also interesting to see how Disney land and Zoos took the idea and made a close replica of it to run on there perimeter. Some pretty cool stuff. Thanks.

Pete- To bad the tram way no longer exists. Some pretty cool pictures too. To me they look like double decker buses on rails. Kind of cool. That could have been a perfect little 5-mile ride. I would have ridden it. Thanks for sharing.

Mike- Wow. Some pictures and an article to go along with it. Very Nice. The article was also a good one. Those rail barrens ruled with an iron fist. If they wanted something done, by gaud your going to do it. But with out them, where would the railroad be today. Mr. Loree seemed to know what he was doing. And he built a nice railroad. The Delaware and Hudson. Thanks for sharing.

Eric- I noticed your picture at the bottom of your post. That's is some really flat land. And you can see two train traversing across it. I am going to take a guess and say this is located somewhere in California since there is a mountain in the background. Just a guess. Great shot.

I will be back later to drop off an interesting article I found

Happy railroading

James

 

 

[siberianmo]

 

G'day Gents! Don't know why or how, but this Post apparently did show up when it was supposed to be in PREVIEW mode - hmmmmm, CM3 referred to it. Good Gawd Gertie, Gremlins Gotcha! One more time . . . from Page 164 of the original Thread on Nov 16th, 2005. This was Posted over on the original Thread a couple of times, but not here. Time for our "new guys" to check it out . . .   Here's a little something you may find of interest.  It has been used with permission from: http://www.innvista.com/default.htm with some additions (noted) and minor editing.   We'll call this Fallen Flags Extra!   While there are some differences between the Fallen Flags that I have Posted for Passenger Trains, there's no reason to do anything other than enjoy the names of these fine passenger trains!   Some Name Passenger Trains by Railroad in 1948    This list includes trains from North America only. This gives an idea of the number of passenger trains operating in Canada and the United States in 1948. The name trains have been listed according by railroad that they traveled over. In some cases just the Pullman equipment traveled over these lines.    Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe (AT&SF)    •1.      Antelope •2.      California Limited •3.      California Special •4.      Cavern •5.      Centennial State •6.      Chicagoan •7.      Chief •8.      El Capitan •9.      El Pasoan •10.  Fast Mail Express •11.  Golden Gate •12.  Grand Canyon •13.  Kansas Cityan •14.  Oil Flyer •15.  Ranger •16.  San Diegan •17.  Scout •18.  Super Chief •19.  Texas Chief •20.  Tulsan •21.  West Texas Express   Atlanta and West Point (A&WP)   •1.      Crescent •2.      Piedmont Limited   Atlantic Coast Line (ACL)   •1.      Champion (East Coast) •2.      Champion (West Coast) •3.      City of Miami •4.      Dixie Flagler •5.      Dixie Flyer •6.      Dixie Limited •7.      Everglades •8.      Flamingo •9.      Georgian •10.  Havana Special (East Coast) •11.  Havana Special (West Coast) •12.  Miamian •13.  Palmetto •14.  Seminole •15.  South Wind •16.  Southland •17.  Sunchaser    Baltimore and Ohio (B&O)   •1.      Ambassador •2.      Capitol Limited •3.      Cincinnatian •4.      Cleveland Night Express •5.      Columbian •6.      Diplomat •7.      Marylander •8.      Metropolitan Special •9.      National •10.  Royal Blue •11.  Shenandoah    Bangor & Aroostook (BAR) (added by siberianmo)    1. Aroostock Flyer 2. Potatoland Special    Boston and Maine (B&M)   •1.      Alouette •2.      Flying Yankee •3.      Green Mountain •4.      Gull •5.      Kennebec •6.      Minute Man •7.      Monadnoch •8.      Montrealer •9.      Mount Royal •10.  Mountaineer •11.  New Englander •12.  Penobscot •13.  Pine Tree •14.  Red Wing •15.  State of Maine •16.  Washingtonian    Canadian National Railways (CNR)   •1.      Ambassador •2.      Continental Limited •3.      Gull •4.      Inter-City Limited •5.      International Limited •6.      LaSalle •7.      Maple Leaf •8.      Maritime Express •9.      Montrealer &bull Happy Railroading! Siberianmo