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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:11 PM

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Here's some pics for the birthday boy, local scene, Happy that and many more1

Rogers Hornsby and Stan Musial at the Polo Grounds

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21980&stc=1&d=1175059775

Gil Hodges' running inside the park home run, 1962 Mets

http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21976&stc=1&d=1175051521

Staten Island

http://images.nypl.org/?id=104695&t=w

http://images.nypl.org/?id=104599&t=w

http://images.nypl.org/?id=104694&t=w

http://images.nycsubway.org/i45000/img_45576.jpg

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http://images.nycsubway.org/i62000/img_62988.jpg

RDC at Sharon, Mass

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RDC at Magog, Quebec

http://67.15.20.45/images/images2/c/CP_RDC.jpg.45615.jpg

Milwaukee Road Alco DL109

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/dl109.jpg

Alaska-Yukon-Pacific Exposition 1909

http://content.lib.washington.edu/ayp/image/390471826102001_261.JPG

http://guidodeiro.com/images/alaskaexposition2.jpg

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http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/ayp&CISOPTR=32&DMDIM=500&DMDIMW=600&DMDIMH=600

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/04000/04010v.jpg

North American Aviation, Inc.1942

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsac/1a35000/1a35300/1a35320v.jpg

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http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsac/1a35000/1a35300/1a35324v.jpg

Coventry. Wow that ruins is old and tall. And named for my patron saint. I did not know that.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WAR/images/covstmich1730.jpg

http://www.getty.edu/conservation/publications/newsletters/16_2/images/p06a.jpg

http://www.getty.edu/conservation/publications/newsletters/16_2/images/p06b.jpg

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/coventry/coventry-cathedral.jpg

Vulcan Foundry Magazine, light reading

http://www.enuii.com/vulcan_foundry/magazine/Vol1_no1_1948/page15_50.jpg

http://www.enuii.com/vulcan_foundry/magazine/Vol1_no1_1948/page16_50.jpg

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http://www.enuii.com/vulcan_foundry/magazine/Vol1_no1_1948/page18_50.jpg

http://www.enuii.com/vulcan_foundry/magazine.htm

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:50 PM

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays!

 

G'day Gents!

Once again, Happy B-Day [bday] To Manager Lars - and - Happy B-Day [bday] to my "better half" on this final day of March! Yeah!! [yeah]

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

James at 10:45 AM today: A fine Saturday morning Post ‘n Pix! Thumbs Up [tup] Never traveled aboard Metra, but expect to once Pete ‘n I visit with Doug up in Chicago! Yeah!! [yeah] Appreciate your efforts 'round here and appears to many of us that you do indeed give a "Rat's Patoot" about the bar! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Doug at 11:24 AM today: Hope that West Coast S Dave catches a glimpse of your efforts - most enjoyable! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Many thanx for helping to keep these Saturday 'events' going . . .

 

Pete at 2:47 PM ' 4:33 PM today: Regards to you from the bride - she says "thanx" for the B'day wishes! We just returned from a special  B'day lunch at one of our favorite spots over in St. Charles - was going to be dinner, however, there's a nasty storm front en route and we figured it smarter to put that off ‘til the ‘morrow. Juneau prefers it that way! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Speaking of St. Charles, we'll most probably have our Rendezvous Saturday nite dinner at the Lewis & Clark Restaurant & Public House in the historic section down by the Missouri River, where we were today. The guys will enjoy it - very "different" and a place where the ale runs chilled ‘n often! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

<duh> Of course - The Idiot of the Week! Guess that's Moi, eh Question [?] <grin>

Figured you'd enjoy those Brit rail ads . . . also really enjoyed that bit from Nick regarding Awk. I had totally forgotten it! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice Pix from Alan (as usual) - surely would like to "meet" the guy one of these days! Yeah!! [yeah]

Looks like that storm you referred to is bearing down upon US! <groan>

See y'all on Monday - enjoy the weekend, Gents!

 

Ruth, a round on the house - ring it, Boris. Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:33 PM

Hi Tom and all.

I will have another Batham's please Ruth.

It has taken a bit longer to post the pics but a thunder storm moved through here so I got off the puter.Still no 'smillies'

TOM I see we have DL's film on and the a film involving the sea which Lars should enjoy and with baseball in the Stooges a good week again at the Emporium.

Many thanks for the Silver Jubilee Encore. Those were the days with a streamlined A4 locomotive and train painted in silver with a very fast run to Newcastle.

Well the sky is getting dark again so I had better post the pics.They are some more from the Hartz Railway in Germany taken By Alan 

 

They should enlarge.

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:07 PM

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

GREAT BRITAIN PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #4 

from multiple sources first Posted on Page 146 of the original Thread



Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains, this time from Great Britain! Check this 1935 poster out!

"THE SILVER JUBILEE"

 SILVER LINK 4-6-2 #2509

BRITAINS FIRST STREAMLINE TRAIN

NEWCASTLE AND LONDON IN 4 HOURS

AVERAGE THROUGHOUT SPEED 67.0 M.P.H.

Weekdays (Saturdays excepted) from 30th. September 1935

NEWCASTLE - - dep am 10.0 .......... KING's CROSS - - dep pm 5.30
DARLINGTON - - - - - - - - 10.42 .........DARLINGTON - - - - arr - - - 8.48
KING'S CROSS - arr pm 2.0 ........... NEWCASTLE - - - - - - - - - - 9.30
 

Connecting trains serve Tyneside and Tees-side

SUPPLEMENTARY FARES: First Class 5/- Third Class 3/-

LONDON & NORTHEASTERN RAILWAY




Enjoy!  Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:57 PM

ENCORE! Saturday ‘n Photo Posting Day!

at "Our" Place!

We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs!


Starting Sunday at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!

 

. . . April 1st thru 7th: The World's Fastest Indian (2005 )Starring: Anthony Hopkins, Iain Rea, Tessa Mitchell, Aaron Murphy &  Tim Shadbolt - and White Squall (1996) Starring: Jeff Bridges, Caroline Goodall, John Savage, Scott Wolf &  Jeremy Sisto. SHORT: The Three Stooges - Movie Stars at Work and Play (1940).

 

The World's Fastest Indian (2005)

PLOT SUMMARY:

The life story of New Zealander Burt Munro, who spent years building a 1920 Indian motorcycle -- a bike which helped him set the land-speed world record at Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats in 1967.

from: amazon.com

 

White Squall (1996)

PLOT SUMMARY:

A true story about a group of American teenage boys who crew a school sailing ship to gain experience, discipline, or whatever their parents feel they lack. The voyage is a true adventure for them all but it has its downs as well as ups.

 from: amazon.com

 

SHORT: Movie Stars At Work And Play (1940)


PLOT SUMMARY: Featuring Moe, Larry & Curly

Seeing Hollywood With Harriet Parsons: Intimate Views of the Movie Stars at Work and Play. Hollywood celebrities attend various sport and entertainment attractions in Los Angeles. Sol Horwitz, Larry Fine and Curly Howard are briefly seen enjoying a baseball game.

from: threestooges.net

Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:47 PM

Hi Tom and all.

Unfortunatly the smilles wont work forme just now.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY To LARS and TOM"S BRIDE so a Bathams for me and a round for the house please RUTH.

JAMES The only info I can find on UP # 2515 is a GP-38-3 so I have may have the wrong loco. This loco was built in 1966 and is now has the number 1015 .I believe it was delivered new to the Richmond Fredericksburg & Potomac Railroad, an interesting locomotive. There was a loco from the same class here in Jefferson City the other day the loco was #1003 and I think the loco was going to work the local freight to the local factories.

Many thanks for those Metra photos. It is great to watch trains during a busy time. I am sure you would like to spend the rush hour at Clapham Junction, In the south of London, England there are over 2,000 trains a day through there, mostly Electric Multiple Units. A link to Clapham Junction.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapham_Junction

ERIC I was indeed a long way off on the photo. I blame the Bathams and the right hand running.

I believe it was ASEA who built the traction motors for the Advanced Passenger Train the tilting train on British Rail in the 1970s

Well I better make sure the bar is looking good for the regal visitor from Norway and for when Ruth gives LARS his present.

DOUG That Rooster has an uncanny resemblance to the mascot from the Second Class Saloon.

Those Auto Cars often come through here at Jeff City; there are not many cars that over shadow the locos. They are usually hauled by 3 locomotives and are quite a length.

That is a great model of the Big Boy and the other loco in the Copper Junction loco depot is another fine looking engine, I just can't make out the road it belongs to on its tender.

 I am sure DAVE will enjoy those photos from the Orange Empire Museum. The difference between Fresno Traction #51 and L.A. car # 1201 shows the amount of work that is involved in restoring those old cars. I noticed the Scottish kilted Military Band members no doubt from Pipe and Drum Band.

Many thanks for sharing those great photos and I am sure you will have a great day at the Sanfilippo Estate outing.

TOM. It was great to see the tub well filled if the track gang knew how full it was they might ask for a reduction in the beer price.

The lettuce was in the Idiot of the Week. I am not going to say anything about the last two coming from the Kansas area

Good words to Eric from you

Thanks for the GB passenger train nostalgia encore this is what I wrote a the time

 Another great G. B. nostalgia. I suspect the Caledonian Grampian Corridor coaches would be quite similar to the L&NWR stock, athough I am not too sure about that.

The Caledonian had some very handsome locomotives and the passenger ones were painted Caledonian blue. There is a magnificent Single Wheeler #123 preserved in Glasgow as part of the Scottish collection.

As NICK says there was great rivalry at the time. In Scotland the Caledonian main competitors were the Glasgow & South Western rly. Between Glasgow and Carlisle and the Glasgow suburbs. And the North British Rly. North and East of Glasgow.

While looking for my post from back then I found this part of a post from the much-missed NICK about the origin of AWK.

 ................Heard a little tale concerning AWK a while ago, seems that before he turned up here, he was owned by a stage magician, who won him in a card game. Well the magician got himself a gig on a cruise liner and decided to take AWK with him, all was well until the first show-at the end of every trick, AWK would yell out "It's in his pocket" "Its under the table" or whatever, totally ruining the show-after two weeks of this, the magician was at his wits end.

 Worse was to come, the next night the ship hit an iceberg & sank immediately. Happily, the magician got away and eventually found a length of driftwood floating nearby; with the last of his strength he struck out and caught hold. When he had recovered his breath he was astonished to find AWK perched on the other end, before he could say a word the bird fixed him with a steely gaze and enquired "O.K smart guy, where did you hide the boat .................

Well RUTH another Bathams please while I get my pics .

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:24 AM

Howdy again Tom and folks. I'll have another light breakfast for the road, as we leave in about 15 minutes for the Sanfilippo Estate. I got my Martin house assembled and installed just a few minutes ago, and will share pix later today. Looks like the Captain has posted British passenger stuff, and James has some nice Chicago/rail post cards. Here is my promised left coast stuff (the beginning of it anyway)

Orange Empire Museum

An interurban interlude on the main line, south of Oil Junction. Pacific Electric 498 (Pullman, 1913). This combine started life with Southern Pacific's Interurban Electric out of Oakland, but on closure just before World War Two, was transferred to PE April 9, 1984.

Los Angelos Railway Type P-3 all-electric PCC 3165 (St. Louis Car, 1948). In immaculate condition, awaits its next tour of duty at Pinacate Station, June 1975.

Fresno Traction 51 (Brill, 1913) a heavy low-floor center-entrance steel vehicle, was nicknamed a Hobble-skirt car because of its stepless entry, a scant 13 1/2inches from the ground. This allowed women wearing the then fashionable hobble skirt to get on and off without distress. The design was that of New York Railways, who took 175 of them from St. Louis Car in 1912-13. Southern Pacific ordered 35 similar vehicles from Brill for its portfolio of traction properties, of which Pacific Electric received the lion's share, and the tinier properties a handful each. April 15, 1990

One of the nice restorations of recent years has been the Los Angeles Railway Type H car No. 1201 (St. Louis Car, 1921). The first of a fleet of 250 steel cars, 1201 was presented to the City of Englewood when it was withdrawn in 1955. It was so badly vandalized within days of going on outside display, that a volunteer group was obliged to step in and save it, trucking the car to Travel Town in Griffith Park. The car arrived at Perris in 1959, in poor shape, and at the time of this April 1981 photograph, its magnificent six-year restoration to 1920s condition was still not quite complete.

Kyoto 19 (Brill? 1898) an American export to Japan, is very similar to the hundreds of cars with which electric trolley service began in the U.S. during the decade. It was retired in 1961, and then brought to the museum by Mr. Philip Goldman. Here it is holding down service on the Broadway shuttle, the beginnings of the museum's Main Street project. It's a special events day at the museum and a greater-then-usual crush of humanity is expected. Hence the presence of the Porta-Potties and kilted customers, members of a visiting Scottish military band. April 9, 1981.

Los Angeles Railway Type F car 1160 (LARY, 1923) was one of 16 rebuilt from short Type A cars built around the turn of the century. The whole class served until September 1950, at which time they were put into storage. Late in 1954, the class was sold for scrap, except for this car, which in 1953 went on display in Griffith Park's Travel Town. It finally came to Perris in 1953, and is seen here on the mixed-gauge loop in April 1981

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Posted by CMSTPP on Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:45 AM

G-day Captain [4:-)] Tom and all present!

Ruth- Good to see you on this wonderful morning.Thumbs Up [tup] Could I get an OJ with a pastry please. Thanks

First off HAPPY BIRTHDAY MANAGER LARS!!! Happy B-Day [bday] Have a good one!Thumbs Up [tup]

Doug- Interesting to read that the plane moves and not the train. But it's a cool building none-the-less. Thanks. Also, thanks for the funny video. Lars definitely wants to get that chicken but I think it decided to retaliate.Laugh [(-D] Oh and your pictures of the Chrysler plant were pretty cool. I passed that two weeks ago while heading for Chicago. But I didn't see the Auto racks because I was on the other side of the plant. But it's cool to see that large plant out there. Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup] Also liked the model pics. I believe that the models are G scale. There size gives that away. But I can't believe how big that UP big boy is. What a monster model. I wonder how much that model weighsQuestion [?]

Eric- Ah yes, Remote control. I am very familiar with these locomotives. But I am glad you explained the set up in the Ue. I don't think I could have guessed that. Thanks for the info. Ah, putting the X2000 together. It' does look like a very slow process. I see quite a few cables in between each of those cars, so it that's probably the reason I thought there was a problem. Thanks. Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom- I would love to come down and enjoy that 70 degrees. Right now it's about 34 degrees with a freezing drizzle outside. Yuck. Sigh [sigh]

We sold a really old Marx train set back in October at a train show. It wasn't a tin set but similar to a Lionel train set. It wasn't as rare as the tin sets but it was a cool set. But I would certainly love to have some of those tin rail car or locomotives so that I could sell them for some money. And them spend it on HO models.Big Smile [:D]

Time for some pictures!

Picture from:www.railroadpix.com/rrphotos/detail/502.html

How about Metra Commuter railway. Always enjoyed riding those trains.

Picture from: www.railroadpix.com/rrphotos/detail/126.html

Metra train racing past Deval tower. I am always surprised at how many trains can come through at rush hour. Fred told me that you could see 30 trains in 30 minutes. It's pretty cool.

I will be back later to drop off some more pictures.Thumbs Up [tup]

Enjoy!

Happy railroadingLaugh [(-D]

James

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:34 AM

ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

GREAT BRITAIN PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #3

from multiple sources first Posted on Page 137 of the original Thread

 

Here's something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with

Classic Trains, this time from Great Britain!  Check this pre-WWI poster out!

 

LONDON & NORTH WESTERN & CALEDONIAN RAILWAYS

TRAVEL BY WEST COAST ROUTE BETWEEN ENGLAND & SCOTLAND

Comfort - Punctuality - Speed

QUICKEST & BEST ROUTE BETWEEN ALL PARTS of

ENGLAND and SCOTLAND

PASSENGERS BY THE WEST COAST ROUTE

MAY HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF TRAVELLING BY THE

NEW "GRAMPIAN CORRIDOR" DINING CAR TRAINS

of the CALEDONIA COMPANY in SCOTLAND.

WEST COAST NIGHT EXPRESS LONDON (Euston) & SCOTLAND

The Finest Vehicles in Europe, Vestibule Throughout.

BREAKFAST, LUNCHEON & DINING CARS.

Passengers

traveling between England and the North of Scotland

can go via EDINBURGH (Princes Street) and break their

journey there, in both directions, without extra charge or inconvenience,

and after visiting the places of interest in Edinburgh, resume their

journey North or South from the same Station by the

"GRAMPIAN CORRIDOR"

or other Express Trains.

 

Enjoy!  Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:45 AM

Courtesy: http://www.viarail.ca/

This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!

"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays!

 

G'day Gents!

Happy B-Day [bday] To Manager Lars - and - Happy B-Day [bday] to my "better half" on this final day of March! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

And so, we've arrived at Saturday once again at the Saloon by the Siding! Why not join us for a hot mug of coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a <light> or <traditional> breakfast while you're at it Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Spring has definitely sprung - opening day for baseball is Sunday - birds are baaaaaaaack! Yeah!! [yeah]

An observation: Noticed that a couple of Posts are in the "wide" format, requiring one to scroll up ‘n down - side to side - in order to get through ‘em. Anyone have a "clue" as to why this occurs??????

Finally, a word from Rob in my Email this AM . . . seems he's had an assortment of "things" to contend with over the past several weeks. Asks that we not give up on him, so we won't. He's OFF the Legion of the Lost "list." <yay>

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

Lars at 12:05 PM yesterday: Good to see our Manager up ‘n about the decks and helping to keep the ship on course! Thumbs Up [tup]

Fine insights regarding Pete's "initiation" to his new position at the bar. Now that's he's in a leadership position, he'll quickly learn that the rewards are few, and the headaches a bit more frequent! <grin>

Thanx for the book covers that should round out the week long tribute to the D&H! Thumbs Up [tup]

Soooooooo, do we get to KNOW what Ruth gave YOU for your B'day present???? <grin>

Hope you enjoy your B'day and the weekend. And of course, LET'S GO CARDINALS! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Opening day against the dreaded Mets right here in the river city. Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Pete at 6:02 PM yesterday: Enjoyed speaking with you as we did a bit of ‘catch up.'

Glad to know that you've recuperated from Thursday's "event"! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] First order of business for you will be to replenish the stocks - seems that the customers had a powerful thirst and quite an appetite at that. <grin> Nice to see the upstairs "tub" full o' cash though . . . Yeah!! [yeah]

It must be my advanced age - but refresh my memory regarding the gal ‘n the lettuce????

Hmmmmm, perhaps you are NOT quite ready for the "voice recognition" software applications for preparing Posts! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Appreciate the inclusive ‘n informative nature of your Post and of course the visit!!

 

James at 7:14 PM yesterday: Another well done effort from young James who has covered the bases quite well. Ice storm in Duluth, eh Question [?] Geesh, c'mon down to mid-continent a bit, we're in the mid 70s and things are green, green, green. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Marx was "into" toys of all kinds. They probably were best known for their toy trains, but I can recall the vehicles (cars, trucks, buses) they made, and I seem to recall toy soldiers, cowboys ‘n Indians, etc. Most could be found in the 5 & 10 cent stores of the day . . . . hardly an "upscale" toy company. But in today's "market," most things from back then are worth hundreds of time their original value, especially on the auction blocks in the Ether.

Appreciate having you aboard, Sir! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Doug at 8:00 PM yesterday: What a riot! A Rooster chasing "Lars," eh Question [?] Why not!! <grin> Nicely done. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Not to worry about "when" you come by on Saturday, the important thing is that you "will"!! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Eric at 2:22 AM today: One of my favorite ‘things' to do while traveling by train is to stand at the rearmost vantage point and watch the right of way "disappearing" behind. It's a great experience and like looking into a Kaleidoscope, the "pictures" are never quite the same. Thanx for another fine right of way Pix! Yeah!! [yeah]

Life is a crap shoot and so are on-line purchases through the auctions . . . as "they" say, "buyer beware." Remember that line from "Forest Gump" - "Mama always says, 'Life is like a box of chocolates, You never know what you gonna get.'"

Pete ‘n I were discussing the bar and we both agree that this current group, albeit small in number, is amongst the BEST we've had. And thanx in large measure to you, the quality of material provided is simply fantastic! Yeah!! [yeah]

Just a shame that we haven't the ‘well' to draw from as our guys go off on vacations, work ‘n family matters and the like. That's what brings us to "all stop" in a heartbeat. <groan>

Rendezvous isn't THAT far off . . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Doug at 5:02 AM today: Nice beginning to the day with those 3-level carrier ‘n toy show Pix! Thumbs Up [tu<div style=

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:02 AM

Good morning Tom and pards! I'll have a light breakfast, if I can navigate my way around Pete's near lifeless body sprawled on the floor. Don't know where his shirt is, and he probably doesn't either. He's still wearing his OP Chandler's tie, and it looks like he got what appears to be "Happy Birthday Moon Pie" tatoos last night. Kinda looks like Boris' handwriting, which would account for the backward and missing letters, and the mispellings. By the way, Happy B-Day [bday] to our one and only manager and B'Day boy Lars!

Nifty picture of the right-of-way from Eric this morning. You could be right about the heritage of that rooster, but I think it's father might have been the Norwegian Blue. Lovely plumage, eh? Speaking of pictures, I've still got some from last week unti I can get to the computer with the left coast stuff. Gotta wait for the bride to arise before accessing thoses. But here we go.

I took these driving 65 mph while passing the Chrysler plant in Belvidere. They're obviously three-level car carriers, and the tallest cars I've seen in these parts.

These are of the largest layout at the show. The yellow tint is because of the light reflecting from the gym floor Angry [:(!]

That's enough for now. Must be off to tend the horses. See ya'll soon!

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Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:22 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Manager Lars!! And the rest of you!!

Leon, time to celebrate our Manager! Free rounds all morning for everyone and free rounds for Manager Lars all day! I'll have my Filet Mignon, medium! Mushrooms, please!

A big day for Manager Lars, Happy B-Day [bday] Happy Birthday to You, Sir!!! Happy B-Day [bday]I just heard on the news that the King of Norway will send somebody to the bar today to participate in the celebrations! 

DL –  A little bit about a lot of things!Thumbs Up [tup] So Mrs. Thatcher wanted a road tunnel? That would have been crazy.Grumpy [|(]

A two hour movie about a motorcycle? OK I guess it is about the guy riding that motorcycle! Bring it on and I’ll watch it! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom –  I understand what you mean about the size of the picture! In a month and a half you will see a little part of that picture in full size! Time flies!Smile [:)]

Talking about eBay, I had a new experience last night. I found a Mac laptop for a starting bid of $50 and placed a bid. Sounded unbelievable cheap considering it was a brand new (but 3 years old) computer. I got a message that I was the high bidder and the remaining time was less that 17 hours. Ten minutes later I got a new mail telling that eBay had canceled that auction. It seems like they think the computer was stolen. They advised me not to buy direct from the seller if he will offer me to do so.

I can’t say I am surprised that a TV-station is using a footage from NEC to illustrate something about rail lines in Missouri. Most journalists don’t know anything about trains.Mischief [:-,]

I know you love right-of-way pictures so I am showing another one below.

Just outside Stockholm.

Lars –  Happy Birthday to you!!!Happy B-Day [bday]
I know Ruth has a big surprise for you today!Whistling [:-^] Just pretend you don’t know anything! I don’t understand why she gave you a package yesterday? And I don’t understand why you didn’t tell us what was in that package? Hmmm...Mischief [:-,]

Looking forward to see the pictures from Pete’s ceremony in May!

More D&H nice book covers!Thumbs Up [tup] I wonder if the reason that D&H used blue and yellow as their colors has anything to do with Delaware’s past as a Swedish colony in the 1600’s? Blue and yellow are also the colors of Sweden. I have to do some research.

Pete –  Congratulations to your promotion!! Hope you are okay after drinking all that Bathhams.Wink [;)]

Thanks for the info on the headcode!Thumbs Up [tup] I am afraid your guess is way off! My picture is actually from Stockholm, Sweden.

The traction motors used in Class UB (and Ue) were built by ASEA. Basically all electrics in Sweden built before 1995 were built by ASEA/ABB.Smile [:)]

James –  The reason there are so few controls inside tha Class UE is that it is remote controlled, so it is hardly ever operated from inside the cab. When ot is operated from the cab they use a box, connected with a cable, with the same kind of controls as on the radio they normally use. Smile [:)]

The picture with the “undone” train is actually showing when the very first X2000 power unit was coupled to a car for the first time. It is kind of a complicated operation to do that.

Nice looking locomotive in that picture!Thumbs Up [tup] Looks very clean and nice!

Doug –  I’ll do some research to see if I can find out about that aqueduct! Thanks for that video of Manager Lars!Thumbs Up [tup] It must be a Norwegian rooster chasing him! They are kind of aggresive!

I'll be back later today with some pictures!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 30, 2007 8:00 PM

Good evening Tom and friends. I'll take the freebie celebratory drink from Pete, and buy the next round. Lots to celebrate with Pete surviving his inquisition, and Moon Pie Lars' upcoming birthday only hours away. Thanks for the H&D book covers, sir, and to Tom for the birthday list.

Tomorrow's picture day will be a two-parter from me. First, there will be some left coast stuff, as we've been getting weekend visits from Dave, currently checking us out from Iraq. Hopefully he'll see something to remind him of home. Then I have my 20th Century Railroad Club outing tomorrow to the Victorian Palace at the Sanfilippo Estate. We start after 12:30, and must leave by 4:30. Then my family is talking about taking in a movie at one of those mega-movie complexes afterwards, so I won't be able to get pictures from the outing online until later in the evening I figure that manager Lars' B'Day party will just be getting started, so everyone will be here to see them anyway.

To answer a question from James, no, the little trains inside the Lionel building do not operate, but the little plane flies in a circle near the ceiling. Interesting thet you saw the Badger demonstrated at another show, and I heard several types of loud horns and whistles demonstrated from that model last Sunday.

To answer a question from Eric, no, I don't know if the H&D suspension aqueducts still exist. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful..

Is it time for another round? I'm buying, 'cuz I ran across this little film of manager Lars when he was a kid

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Posted by CMSTPP on Friday, March 30, 2007 7:14 PM

G-day Tom and all present!!

Leon- Could I get a coffee..... Ya, along with a sandwich, Thanks. And BTW, would you get a round for the fellas. Thanks again.Thumbs Up [tup]

Well. What an interesting day today. Wet, cold.. Just the way I like it....Sigh [sigh] We have Ice storm warnings out at the moment here in Duluth.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Doug- The Badger is definitely an amazing model to behold. Each year when I go to the NMRA show in Milwaukee, The guy has it set up and he's running trains in and out of it. It's really cool to here the horn of the boat. Every hour or so he would blow the horn on the boat. Very nicely detailed too. I am still impressed.Wow!! [wow]

I looked at the Marx train pics and I can't believe how much he wanted for them. That was unreal. $40 for a tin hopper is quite expensive.Shock [:O] But hey, it's a hobby and I am sure they are very much a collectible.Thumbs Up [tup] Some cool pics. Also saw some of the interesting buildings that you had posted. I really liked the Madison Hardware. I like how they have the model trains in the window. They certainly give that impression, but it looks as if they are able to run. Do the little trains run inside the buildingQuestion [?]

I'm sorry Tom, but I have to compliment on a joke. That one were his wife thinks he's drunk for kissing her was funny.Laugh [(-D] Thanks

Good continuing piece on the D&H. It was amazing to read about the suspension bridges. I was quite surprised that they were built in the 1850s. That is an old bridge. Thanks for the article.Thumbs Up [tup]

Eric- Well, glad you liked the NP articles. They were interesting to say-the-least. When I saw the picture of Bozeman pass I instantly thought about what you said. So I posted the picture. It was good picture, glad you liked it.Thumbs Up [tup] Oh and thanks for the cab interior of the Ue. It certainly wasn't what I was expecting. Usually when I look at a cab I look for more than one handle and a few gadgets and gizmos but there isn't really a lot inside that little loco. Thanks for the picture.Smile [:)]

Regarding my models, that would be my layout. It's under construction at the moment so I sometimes refer to it as plywood central. But it works for what I want it to do. Also I'll see what info I can find for you on the DL109s.Wink [;)] I know the Milwaukee Road only had two of them and they were not impressed with them.

The picture of you in it doesn't look to be 17 ½ years old. I think it looks pretty good. I was looking at it and it seems that there was an accident. I can't tell, but it looks like the train came undone. What happenedQuestion [?]

DL- I liked the picture of the GCR class 8K 2-8-0. I can't believe that it was built back in 1911 and is operated today.Wow!! [wow] That is really cool. Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]

Good to hear that the 1920s city tram may run again. It's always fun to hear about old trams/ trains/ anything that rides the rails, that will be restored to operating condition and may once again run. Thanks for sharing.Smile [:)]

Tom- So the Australians followed our design. That makes sense, most of there locomotives have that type of design to them. Thanks for the info. Also thanks for the passenger nostalgia. The Canadian Pacific F-units caught my eye. That beaver just fits right in and those F-units... What a wonderful piece of work they are.Thumbs Up [tup]

Great little story on the Marx Company. I'm still surprised that they made those little monster figurines. I thought they were strictly trains but I guess not.Cool [8D]

Delaware and Hudson on the Fallen Flags list... Sad.. But At least there are pictures of those wonderful looking Alco PA locomotives. They are an eye opener especially when there Alco made. Thanks for pics and info.Thumbs Up [tup]

Ah, yes. The Birthday watch list.. And I'm on it!!Big Smile [:D] Okay, Okay, I know I'm the youngest but I do have a passion for trains. Especially when I can work on them.Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Mike- Who would deny the PA. I certainly wouldn't.Big Smile [:D] I do like big Alco passenger power and that PA matches that description perfectly. Nice pictures of those. Also liked the pictures of the steam engines. That D&H 4-6-6-2 is a monster. That little Pennsy switcher be hide that large steamer looks really weird. That little thing is dwarfed. Thanks for sharing.Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3- A GP30.. Hmm. I happen to know one. Well not personally, but I know where one is located and is in almost perfect condition. It's here in Duluth at the railway Museum. They're a real treat. Now when I said it was almost in perfect condition, it still has an oil leak.Evil [}:)] We have it down to a minimum but it still leaks. The gasket around the hatch on the engine leaks. So when you open up the side doors you can see these fine oil streaks going down the side of the engine. So we need a new gasket but outside of that, it's pristine. And even a brand new paint job a couple of years ago. In SOO line colors. Red/ white/ and black lettering. It's a nice looking locomotive. Thumbs Up [tup] Below SOO GP30 #700 located in Lakeside, the suburbs of Duluth.

Glad you liked my model pics. I also like the FM Erie Built. I have taken the time and put the extra headlight below the other light and add the features the Milw

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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, March 30, 2007 6:02 PM

Hi Tom and all.

I'm afraid I cannot remember too much about last night's exam for the Chandlers postShock [:O]. I must have got the questions right as I was a bit hazy before the Dunk Tank, full of Bathams as wellApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. I hope TEX as dried out and sobered up after falling inShock [:O]. So RUTH I will get the beers today to celebrate my elevationYeah!! [yeah]. Many thanks all for the congratulations.Thumbs Up [tup]

DOUG Thanks for the final part of the D&H from1947Thumbs Up [tup], and its attempts to gain other freight traffic as well as the coal. Great part about the line with just 2 locomotives and 2 cabooses.Yeah!! [yeah]

Like Eric I had not heard of a Suspension Aqueduct. I too wonder it is still standing todayThumbs Up [tup].

Loved the joke.Big Smile [:D]

ERIC Yes as Tom said the news people used footage of an East Coast electric to show in a story about Missouri trains.Thumbs Down [tdn]

Those must be a very well made traction motor in the Ub,Approve [^] over 70 years old no doubt after a few rewinds but still the original main components. Do you know who built the traction motor?

The last BR locos to be built with the headcode panel was the English electric class 50s in 1967. The class 87 electric locos introduced in 1973 were built without the headcode panel, as were all locos afterwards. After the headcodes were phased out on locos, although still used in the working timetables, the panels showed 0000 later some locomotives had two white dots in the panel. As the locos went through works the headcode panels were blanked off and two lights fitted. One class, the D. 1000 Western diesel hydraulics although allocated the TOPS code of class 52 were due for early withdrawal at the time and were never renumbered in the TOPS system. Some of these locos carried the locos running number in the headcode panel instead of the 4 zeros.

Can I take a guess at your picture being on the East Coast from the cab of the X2000Question [?].

DL I think the diesel shunter in Mike's link is not for BR, but for use in a private factory, mine or quarry etc.

Yes the English Electric in my opinion were very good products in the first generation of British Railway dieselsYeah!! [yeah]. It is a good job they were after some of the other diesels that were produced at the timeSad [:(]. Even the class 31s were rebuilt with E.E prime movers fairly early on in their careers. The other successful classes for diesel electrics used a Sulzer diesel engine, like the 25s.26s, 27s, 33s, 45s, 46s and 47s. I think the diesel hydraulic locos were fairly successful like the Warships and the Westerns but BR decided to go for all diesel-electrics in the early 1970s.

Thanks for the poster of Coventry CathedralThumbs Up [tup]. I agree Coventry station was one of the better modernized stations from the 1960s. It is hard to believe before it was rebuilt there were just 2 platforms. Coventry Halt as one of my mates still calls it to this day.Smile [:)]

I'm not sure I agree with Mr. Woolmer, although I agree the line will probably not get builtDisapprove [V]. I think though, if you are going to build a new line it as to be for High-speed trains not freight. If the high-speed line was built it would release a lot of capacity on existing lines for freight traffic. Up to 1966 there was a high-speed line linking London with the north it was called the Great Central.

Talking of the GCApprove [^]. There was a fairly large steam depot at Workington. This had to be demolished but instead of reducing it to rubble it was taken down and can be re-erected again,Thumbs Up [tup] there is a plan to do this at Loughborough to the south of the existing shed there on some waste ground. I have a link about this.

       http://www.titaniumdesign.co.uk/emap/permanent/steamModelrail/2007-05/steam/2/index.htm

It is about halfway down the page in ‘Loughborough news'.

73156 is a Standard class 5 the class was introduced in 1951 they do carry a lot of features that are similar to the LMS Black 5s. I had a look in an old book of mine and I have seen this loco when it was in BR serviceApprove [^]Thumbs Up [tup]. It is an appropriate engine to have at the GCR as it was allocated to Neasden depot for a while, which was the London depot for the GCR and would of worked over the GC, which is where I probably saw her. Although as you say it was allocated to Leamington on the ex Great Western later on. About 20 miles from Rugby.

There is another Standard 5 running near you, this is No 73129, which is fitted with Caprotti valve gear. It is usually at  Butterley on the Midland Railway Centre. The MRC also runs an occasional vintage train with 6- wheelers and you can travel in a coach like the old coach bodies, which went to make seaside homes. It was sad that LBSCR coach was demolishedSad [:(] but I bet the wood made some great things by your Grandfather.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Here is a link to some pics of the Vintage Train at Butterley.

http://www.midlandrailwaycentre.co.uk/English/vintage.html

LARS I have just heard that I was so pleased with my promotion and the contents of the dunk tank that I volunteered to clean out BORIS's shedShock [:O]. Oh well I have got to find my wet-suit which disappeared and I suspect it could well be in the shed no doubt after the Bathams has been pressed out o

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Posted by LoveDomes on Friday, March 30, 2007 12:05 PM

Ahoy Cap'n Tom 'n fellow travelers at the bar!

Many thanks Tom and all, for the well wishes - the B'day Watch List looks GREAT - nice work! A 5-Thumbs Up [tup] Salute to you Sir! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Ruth, what's this???? A PRESENT for ME!!!! Wow!! [wow] <blush> and <golly gee> I wonder what it is????

And Boris, what is THAT you are hiding behind your back??? A present for the Manager! <double wow> What a great gift, personalized bibb overalls complete with red "hankie" from you 'n Leon - thanks!! (I think)

A fine turnout for Pete's ceremony last night. The dunk tank turned out to be the main attraction as the Wolfman couldn't believe that there was such a thing as a tank full o' suds - just for HIM! <grin> Thanks to the brewery over in Merry Olde that Pete loves so much and of course the Zeppelin service, we were able to get sufficient quantities of Bathams delivered to us in time to fill the tank! There he was, wet suit 'n all - swimming, diving and frolicking 'round like a stupified porpoise! <grin> Sorry gang, but we promised to refrain from providing any photo "evidence" here in the ether. You'll have to attend the RENDEZVOUS in St. Looooo to see 'em. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Back to the B'day Watch List for a sec . . . looks strange to see Rob's name followed by Legion of the Lost. Who wuddathunkit, huh Question [?] And James at 19! Who wuddathunk we'd see the day when . . .

Regarding the former - we'll surely miss our Ontario Connection. Regarding the latter, the lad has proven to be an asset to the bar . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

Much appreciation to the barn weevil, our resident desert Swede, the wolfman and DL from across the pond for keeping us afloat! Thumbs Up [tup] Fine submissions and always captivating reading. (Yes, I've finally caught up . . . .) <phew>

I know Tom has decided to close up shop over on the "other thread," but youse guyz should check out the pix being posted . . . he's provided some fine stuff from last year's rendezvous. I'm going to continue providing pix, just one at a time, if for no reason other than to keep all of our efforts up on the page. Yeah!! [yeah]

The weekend approaches, and I know things will be busy 'round my hacienda. So lemme just wish one and all a fine weekend. For the baseball fans out there, turn on the tube and settle in for the 1st of 162 games (multiplied by how many teams??) Good Grief Charlie Brown! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Let's Go Mets (one more time)!!

Shane, I'm sure you're elated 'bout your state's basketball team doing so well. Yeah, South Carolina - Clemson - what's the diff, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Something to leave you with . . .

 

 

 

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 30, 2007 11:26 AM

Happy B-Day [bday] 2007 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST Happy B-Day [bday]

(rev. Mar 30th)

January 14th (Eric - 64) 

OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.

March 13th  (Doug - 51)

BOLL WEEVIL (Feb 20 - March 20) You have an overwhelming curiosity. You're unsatisfied with the surface of things, and you feel the need to bore deep into the interior of everything. Needless to say, you are very intense and driven as if you had some inner hunger. You love to stay busy and tend to work too much.  Nobody in their right mind is going to marry you, so don't worry about it.

Happy B-Day [bday] March 31st  (Lars - 67) Happy B-Day [bday]

MOON PIE (March 21 - April 20) You're the type that spends a lot of time on the front porch. A cinch to recognize the physical appearance of Moon Pies.  Big and round are the key words here. You should marry anybody who you can get remotely interested in the idea. A Chitlin would be a good mate but it's not going to be easy. You always have a big smile and are happy. This might be the year to think about aerobics. Maybe not.

May 18th  (Tom - 69)

POSSUM (April 21 - May 21) When confronted with life's difficulties, possums have a marked tendency to withdraw and develop a don't-bother-me-about- it attitude. Sometimes you become so withdrawn, people actually think you're dead. This strategy is probably not psychologically healthy but seems to work for you. You are a rare breed. Most folks love to watch you work and play. You are a night person and mind your own business. You should definitely marry an Armadillo.

May 27th (Dave - 48) <Leave of absence - Iraq>

CRAWFISH (May 22 - June 21) Crawfish is a water sign. If you work in an office, you're hanging around the water cooler. Crawfish prefer the beach to the mountains, the pool to the golf course, and the bathtub to the living room. You tend not to be particularly attractive physically but have a good heart.

August 11th  (Pete - 56)

CATFISH (July 24 - Aug 23) Catfish are traditionalists in matters of the heart, although one's whiskers may cause problems for loved ones. You Catfish are never easy people to understand. You run fast. You work and play hard.  Even though you prefer the muddy bottoms to the clear surface of life, you are liked by most. Above all else, Catfish should stay away from Moon Pies.

September 8th  (Rob - 36)

GRITS (Aug 24 - Sept 23) Your highest aim is to be with others like yourself. You like to huddle together with a big crowd of other Grits. You love to travel though, so maybe you should think about joining a club. Where do you like to go? Anywhere they have cheese, gravy, bacon, butter, or eggs and a good time. If you can go somewhere where they have all these things, that serves you well. You are pure in heart.

September 29th (James - 19)

BOILED PEANUTS (Sept 24 - Oct 23) You have a passionate desire to help your fellow man. Unfortunately, those who know you best, your friends and loved ones, may find that your personality is much too salty, and their criticism will affect you deeply because you are really much softer than you appear. You should go right ahead and marry anybody you want to because in a certain way, yours is a charmed life. On the road of life, you can be sure that people will always pull over and stop for you.

October 18th  (BK - 67)

BOILED PEANUTS (Sept 24 - Oct 23) You have a passionate desire to help your fellow man. Unfortunately, those who know you best, your friends and loved ones, may find that your personality is much too salty, and their criticism will affect you deeply because you are really much softer than you appear. You should go right ahead and marry anybody you want to because in a certain way, yours is a charmed life. On the road of life, you can be sure that people will always pull over and stop for you.

December 29th  (CM3 - 61)

OKRA (Dec 22 - Jan 20) Are tough on the outside but tender on the inside. Okras have tremendous influence. An older Okra can look back over his life and see the seeds of his influence everywhere. You can do something good each day if you try. You go well with most anyone.

Not on the list Question [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year) Corrections too!

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, March 30, 2007 8:49 AM

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G'day Gents! 

End of the work week (for many) a day we call Friday! Yeah!! [yeah]

Begin it with a hot mug of coffee, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a Menu Board selection for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast! Thumbs Up [tup]

Petrol was at $2.49 (rounded) yesterday and from what I've been listening to and reading, prices are to continue upwards. This time the "speculators" and cartel JOs have placed the blame on the situation in the Persian Gulf. Yeah, right . . . it's a simple thing called "get what you can while you can." Many of us refer to it as GOUGING! <boo hiss> SoapBox [soapbox] Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic]

Still haven't had the week of rain predicted last weekend. Temps have been rather comfortable in the mid-70s (F). However, clouds have moved in and maybe some precip will finally reach this area.

News of the day: Pete is now "Oh-fish-ul-lee" the Bar Chandler for "Our" Place. Congrats to the Wolfman and who knows what's next - Manager, perhaps???? What hath God wrought - eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Gonna be a "different" end of the week without Shane ‘round, but a Dad's gotta do what a Dad's gotta do! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

CM3 at 8:50 AM yesterday: My guess is it's a "holiday' in WVA as the NIT championship goes to the Mountaineers! Yeah!! [yeah] I think Lars meant to refer to Clemson, rather than South Carolina - but close enough, eh Question [?] Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Found it on page 7 of the St. Louis Post-Disgrace (Dispatch) - that tournament simply gets no respect (Rodney Dangerfield).

Many thanx for the continuing Pix analysis - the round - the quarters and of course, your presence! We'll be looking forward to your return. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Best of efforts to your son! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Lars at 10:52 AM yesterday: The Manager didn't let us down and made a morning Post replete with some steam Pix! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

I'm with ya on the service academy sports programs. The idea of collegiate sports today seems more to prepare the players for pro's rather than foster team play, sportsmanship, have fun, et al. Yeah, I know, I live in the tar pits. Thumbs Down [tdn]

I wouldn't have admitted it back then, but my vote would go to Willie as the best centerfield of that era. Mickey had too many injuries, the Duke was prone to slumps, but the "Say Hey Kid" was like a Timex, kept on tickin' . . . . Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Thanx for the visit and of course, organizing the "event" for Pete's Bar Chandler "induction." By the looks of the Rat's Patoot and Pool rooms, I'd say a good time was had by all - except Pete, of course! That "dunk tank" has got to go!! <groan>

 

DL at 11:26 AM yesterday: Can't say often enough how nice it is to see ya back at the bar. Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]


Thoroughly enjoyed the tram story. Only those with a deeply rooted appreciation for the lore and place in history of cars like that would endeavor to not only preserve the tram but try to get her back in operating condition. Nice story and wish ‘em the best . . . . Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Pete at 5:14 PM yesterday: Congrats Mr. Bar Chandler! Glad to see that you survived your induction! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Before I forget - Calèche in French-Canadian "loose" translation means a horse drawn carriage.

Yes, that CP ad does contain terminology totally skewed in today's jargon. It's the way of the world when those without a clue somehow manage to overrule the morays, protocol and definitions of things. It's the PC element at it's "best." <boo hiss>

The Post-Disgrace had only a "blurb" buried within the larger Missouri House budget story regarding the Amtrak cuts. Yes, sorry to say this happens pretty much every year. One day we'll definitely lose the "Mules" - the intra-state trains funded by the legislature. Remains to be seen if the Ann Rutledge - inter-state - will remain running.

As to running a Pix of an "electric" for a story about mid-west operations, well chalk that up to one word - ignorance. And they pay these people too! <arrrrgggghhhh>

Pinkertons does ring a bell . . . .

New Haven colors were right up there - speaking of the black ‘n orange era. Really caught one's eye. Thumbs Up [tup]

A fine, fine Post fr

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Posted by DL - UK on Friday, March 30, 2007 5:19 AM

Hello Tom

Lets have a large pancake breakfast this morning - get me set up for the weekend.

Hope all's well.

Glad you got your post up this time Pete.

I enjoyed Mike's Vulcan Foundry link of course, so thanks for the run down on the designs - I could not recognise the switcher, I wondered if it was an 04, 03 or such like.

Anyway - what I was going to say about it is that these designs are almost all still in service one way or another, apart from the 25KV Electric, and they are only just out of service. The EE designs must have been some of the consistently good quality products that got bought under the modernisation plan.

Your mention of Coventry station caught my eye (the new one) I like the design style of this - much higher quality than a lot of other ‘modern' stations. I believe it is actually now a ‘listed building' which is the term we use for buildings given special protection because of their quality. I could not find a pic, but found this great BR poster of the Cathedral from 1957 which will be of interest.

http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10174061&wwwflag=2&imagepos=2

Channel Tunnel - I think to be precise it was Mrs Thatcher who liked the idea of a road tunnel - she was obsessed by the car and as a result starved rail of money. Of course for safety reasons if nothing else the idea of a road tunnel would be crazy. It would have had to have been closed by now under the present climate.

You asked about a Northern High Speed line - I am not hopeful. The Govt commissioned a report by the former head of British Airways (Rod Eddington) - surely he would not have been biased - on transport in general, and he did not go great guns.

In terms of commentary on the subject I put a lot of store by this columnist who is an expert on the public transport, he writes for Rail and I always read his column. He covered the subject here - but it makes gloomy reading:

http://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/articles/rail/556.shtml

However, the Scottish Parliament have said it must happen, so that is where the chief lobbying is coming from, but of course they will not pay much toward it so it will be London who decides. It was only the French that embarrassed the UK into building the London - Tunnel line, without that, that would not have happened.

The restoration work at St Pancras is looking good though - I expect you have seen pictures in the Railway Magazine?

I agree with you about the sheds at the GCR - in fact the day we went I was with my father and we spent the whole day just at Loughborough, around the station and sheds, generally poking about - all very interesting. The working conditions there are pretty cramped though - they need a bigger, better shed really.

The loco group I donated to is 73156 - it would be interesting to see what you know. I see it was located at one shed not too far from Rugby, I'll see if you find out which one! After the donation I have just got a letter from my local ‘rep' inviting me to come down and see what they are doing in more detail. I'm a bit too busy at the moment, but I will ring the chap up.

The Nottingham Tram survivor is a good one as there are no other local preserved trams. Crich will ‘do the business' if they can get the money - their standards are second to none. As you say, a must for any UK trip.

It reminded me that there were / are a few seaside houses made out of old railway carriages around the area on the south coast (near Portsmouth) where my grandparents lived. These had been holiday homes originally and some are quite well preserved if another building had got built up round them to protect them from the elements. The coaches (cars) are actually pre grouping of course (pre 1923 to you North Americans). I know occasionally preservation groups ‘rescue them' but I fear often they end up demolished. I recall one being demolished back in the 1970s when I was a child, to build a modern house on the site. My grandfather who was a keen amateur woodworker salvaged quite a bit of wood from it to make things out of - all superb mahogany of course. Most of these coaches would have been from the old London Brighton and South Coast Railway (LBSCR).

Mentioning of Motorcycle gang reminds me to ask if anyone has seen the film The World's Fastest Indian? I'm utterly confident that any Our Place regular will love this film - maybe an idea for a Mentor Village screening some time Tom?

Check this low down here:

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/reviews/the_worlds_fastest_indian.html

Pete - I'll try and e-mail you, just to ‘establish the link'

Regards

DL

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Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, March 30, 2007 1:36 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

No, thank you Leon, just a cup of strong coffee! Okay, if you have a cheese Danish I'll have that too. Good stuff!

Early Friday morning! A few more hours and the wekend will be here! A lot more info on D&H today! Not around any more though.

Doug –  The people with (tennis)shoes you see in the picture are all engineers and were only interested to see when the power unit was coupled to a car for the very first time.                My weight on the picture was about 170 lbs, today it is 167-168 lbs after a number of years above 210 lbs. I am sure you can make it!Smile [:)]

More nice pictures from the show!Thumbs Up [tup] On the top pictue I can see a little bit of an electric trolley bus!Yeah!! [yeah] I have two myself, but they are both red!

Interesting article about D&H!Thumbs Up [tup] Do you know if that former suspension aqueduct is still around?Question [?] Never seen a suspension aqueduct before!

Tom –  Thanks for the Xplorer information!Thumbs Up [tup] Obviously they were not long lived either one of them. Checking the links you provided it seems like they were very unreliable.

You would like to see a full size version of the picture? Doesn’t it enlarge when you click on it?

VIA Rail still use the term HEP instead of Budd cars? Maybe Rob knows why? It doesn’t make sense at all. Confused [%-)]

I have bought some RR-books at eBay lately and I must say I did not pay much for either one of them. The latest one is “Rights of Trains” by Peter Josserand from 1957. It is about the Standard Code for all railroads. Received it a few days ago. Smile [:)]

More info on D&H!Thumbs Up [tup] What year did D&H go out of business? I did a little bit of research and found that after merging into the Guilford System 1984 was let go in 1988 and bought by CP in 1990!

I love those pictures of the two ALCOs!Thumbs Up [tup] Especially the bottom one, beautiful livery!Wow!! [wow]

CM3 –  I have a few N-scale trains. Maybe I should build a N-scale layout for the time being? Does not take that much space.

Wish your young man Good Luck!!!Smile [:)] Amazonas is a river down there!

Lars –  I admit it takes some time to get used to hanging upside down when typing. But it is okay as long as the limb doesn’t break! Wink [;)]

What do you mean, young? I am still just 27+. Okay, 27++, but that is it! Cool [8D]

Something different? The only thing that looks different to me on those book covers is the name of one of the authors of the bottom book, Robert A. Liljestrand. A very Swedish name. But I don’t think that is what you mean.Confused [%-)]

DL –  I’ll check my pictures from Hendon and see what I can do.Smile [:)] I haven’t been there for 28 years, 1979!

Nice story about that old tram!Thumbs Up [tup] Lets hope they will be able to restore it to running condition!

Pete –  Now you made me curious! What line has been electrified? AEM-7 in MIssouri?Question [?] I must have been asleep for a long time! Or did they use a picture from the North East Corridor?

The Ub kept the original traction motor when they were rebuilt to Ue. There is only one traction motor on those switchers.

Thanks for the info on those headcode panels!Thumbs Up [tup] So they do not have any kind of panels or signs today?

I agree about seeing the old Cathedral of Coventry. It is moving! I understand that Coventry and Dresden have a great connection today. Very similar events in both cities during WW II. 

Good Luck to you this exciting day!! Be prepared to talk about Ruth and ships! That will make Manager Lars happy! 

 

Eric 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:39 PM

Evening Tom and gang. Finish up your drinks from Peter, and have a round on me! I should take a picture of that Purple Martin house right now. I popped the box open tonight, and it's going to be a major assembly project. Angry [:(!]

Shhh ... don't tell anyone, but one of those Badger pix was X rated. Check out the quarters near the bow.Evil [}:)] I can't believe those guys did that!

Looks like some good D&H stuff from the Captain, and some healthy activity from CM3, DL and manager Lars ... who is having a surprise birthday on Saturday Whistling [:-^]

Here is the last part of my D&H article. I won't be posting in the morning, because we have something strange going on at the horse barn, and I need to be there extra early tomorrow morning. See you at Pete's inquisition examination. Wink [;)]

Delaware & Hudson - April 1947 Railroad Magazine

Vacation Special at Lake George, New York. Steamboat dock to left is hidden by train. Lake George Steamboat Co., purchased by Rensselaer & Saratoga in 1866, is now part of D&H transportation system.

These steel maulers grossed over forty-seven million from transportation in 1945. The all-time high take was that of 1944, when fifty-one million dollars worth of railroad service was sold, with a net of nearly six million left over after taxes and fixed charges.

Last year saw the expenditure of huge sums for improvements. Diesel switchers joined the roster for specialized jobs wherever their low-cost operation would outweigh the advantage of home-owned coal. Fifty-five miles of heavier rail was laid, three wye tracks were installed and many bridges rebuilt. More improvement projects, including the purchase of new units are now on the planning boards.

As B.D. Anthony summed it up, "The D&H may soon be dependent on freight hauling for its main income. Naturally, we are going to sell all the transportation we can, to and from our own lines. We must encourage new firms to locate on our right-of-way by showing them every consideration possible, to make them realize that if we are interested in their problems we will also be interested in giving them good rail service."

Spanning the swift-flowing Delaware and Lackawanna, Pa., this picturesque 600-foot suspension aqueduct, designed by John A. Roebling in 1849, now serves as an automobile toll bridge. It was one of four such structures erected under the supervision of the great engineer whose name is synonymous with cable-supported bridges, along the route of the Delaware & Hudson Coal Canal. The other and lesser aqueducts were the Lackawaxen, Neversink and High Falls crossings.

Delaware aqueduct cable anchorages are strikingly like those used on today's great suspension bridges.

Mr. Anthony did not mean that the Hudson Coal Company is not making money. It is. Mountains of coal are transferred to the Erie via Pennsylvania Division Junctions, to New York Central and to Boston & Albany. The hoppers and gondolas roll every day from the mines to Rouses Point and Mechanicsville for interchange lines. But in the opinion of D&H management, to rest on this profitable business, which may have an uncertain future, would be a dangerous gamble. The men at the helm of the company want to keep it the Durable & Husky.

Included in Official List No. 16, a record of equipment and officials, are the Greenwich & Johnsonville Railway Company and the Napierville Junction Railway Company, A Canadian link. The two roads are the last of a multitude of rail lines and comp[anies making up the present D&H, and both retain their original form. The G7J has seventeen miles of track and connects with the parent road at Greenwich Junctions, N.Y. It uses D&H equipment.

The Napierville Junction line is a forty-two-mile Montreal link, which interchanges freight with the Canadian Pacific. Canadian National, the Rutland and Central of Vermont. It has two locomotives and two cabooses and boasts seven telephone calls all on its own in the timecard. The engines are a fast freight E-3-A class numbered 914 and Number 1089, an E-5 superheater Consolidation. At Delson, P.I., the CP connects with the NJ for freight-interchange and shares the passenger station.

The modern Delaware  & Hudson aside from the NJ tamper-proof Montreal connection and the pee-wee G&J which contributes freight from the portion of New York State northeast of Troy, forms a valuable link in the nation's rail lines. From Canada to south of Albany and from Albany to southwest of Binghamton, N.J. and Wilkes-Bare, Pa., runs the main line, along which travels most of the profitable traffic. The eight minor branches include the Lake Placid and Ausable Forks extensions, and the tracks which bring the minerals and milk out of Vermont. At the center of New York State, there is enough business and industry to keep several freight agents happy. Nor will many angles to keep the entire road busy be overlooked as the battle for traffic broadens into still other fields. It appears that the D&H is going to continue "Durable & Husky", with a long, profitable pull ahead.

The Laurentian, southbound with engine 313 on the smoky end, roars into Westport. Vacationers move faster than the white-shorted agent.

Blush [:I] After Coach Holmgren dies and enters the Pearly Gates, God takes him on tour. He shows Mr. Holmgren a little two-room house with a faded Green Bay Packers banner hanging from the front porch.

"This is your house, coach. Most people don't get their own houses up here," God says.

Coach Holmgren looks at the house, then turns around and looks at the one sitting on top of the hill. It's a huge three-story mansion with white marble columns and little patios under all the windows. Chicago Bear flags line both sides of the sidewalk and a huge Bears banner hangs between the marble columns.

"Thanks for the house, God, but let me ask you a question. I get this little two-room house with a faded banner and  George Hallas gets a huge mansion with Chicago Bear banners and flags flying all over the place. Why is that?"

God looks at Holmgren seriously for a moment. "That's not George's house," God says "That's my house." Blush [:I]

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Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:14 PM

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of bitter and a around please RUTH.Thumbs Up [tup]

Not a good day on the puter or rails yesterdayThumbs Down [tdn] after losing the post I had got ready and when I sent it did not appear. To make matters worse on the 10 o'clock news it said the Missouri House wants to cut off funding for Amtrak services in Missouri (although the bride says they usually do this but the Senate overturn it) but if the senate agrees to the cut the program said we will loose our rail service through here from July 1stThumbs Down [tdn]Thumbs Down [tdn]Thumbs Down [tdn]. What makes it worse according the picture they showed the line has been electrified and the Amtrak service was worked by AE7sConfused [%-)]Big Smile [:D]The general media do have a blind spot when it comes to railways it is the same in the UK.

There has been really good posts since I last posted Yeah!! [yeah]Thumbs Up [tup]with DOUG's Great pictures from the Rockford train show with the fantastic model C&O Train Ferry BadgerWow!! [wow]. I wonder how many hours it took to makeQuestion [?]. Those Marx freight cars look in good condition for their age, I don't think I have heard of the Bessemer line before. Love the Branford Diner car and the smaller scale train giving rides next to the larger scale.Thumbs Up [tup] Unfortunately I missed the large train show in Kansas City by just a week when I was over there.Sad [:(]

 Looking forward to your photo of your purple martin house.Yeah!! [yeah]

ERIC Thanks for the info on the Ub and the photo in the cab of the Ue.Thumbs Up [tup] When the Ubs were rebuilt to a Ue were the original traction motors kept, do you know.Question [?]

Seeing the ruins of the old Cathedral at Coventry is a moving experience. In my village near Rugby there was a guy who was a young man on the night of the big raid on Coventry and he said you could read a newspaper by the light from the fires in Coventry. We are about 10 miles as the crow flies from the city.

On a brighter note when the new Cathedral at Coventry was completed there was a ceremony and the Cathedral was opened by the Queen. After the ceremony the Queen traveled back by the Royal Train. I was fortunate to have seen the train at Rugby and I still have the memory.Approve [^] It was hauled by two immaculate ex LMS class 5 4-6-0s. I have found a picture in a Railway Magazine of the time showing the train at the then newly re-built Coventry station. The locomotives were Nos 44962 and 44942 the locos were from Birmingham area sheds of Saltley and Aston. Some of the Royal Train cars of the day are in the National Railway Museum at York including a twelve-wheeler.

Nowadays there is a great connection between Coventry Cathedral and the Cathedral in the German city of Dresden.Thumbs Up [tup]

Yes the panels on the front of the locos are the 4-characture headcode panel. The first number indicated the class of train eg 1= Express passenger 2 = Stopping Passenger 8= Light Engine etc. The second box was a letter which donated the destination of the train, which on each region was different. For inter-regional workings each region had its own letter eg. S=Scottish M=Midland E= Eastern N= North Eastern O= southern and V= Western Regions. The last two numbers were the individual train numbers.

Locos on BR do not have headcode boxes today but the 4 character code is still used to identify trains in the signaling centers, with the code being entered before the train starts its journey and follows the train on the panel of the signaling centers as the train works the track circuits.

Thanks for the photo of the X2000 and you.Thumbs Up [tup]

MIKE Thanks for a great set of color pics in your links and thanks for CM3 for the details on the pics,Thumbs Up [tup] I was wondering what that sign was in the pic of the D&H 4-6-6-4.

I don't suppose in would be many years before the then new diesels were hauling the steam locomotives to the scrapyard.Sad [:(]

For some details of the locos in the English Electric Vulcan Foundry link. I believe English Electric were the only British loco builder who produced their own prime mover.

With their TOPS class numbers From left to right. On the left is a class 73 Electro-Diesel for the Southern Region These locos could work on the SR's 750volt 3rd rail system and had a 600HP diesel engine for working away from the 3rd rail.

Next is a class 86 for the London Midland 25,000kv overhead West Coast Main Line electrified lines.

A 1,000HP single cab class 20 is next. These locos were usually worked in pairs with the cabs outward. A freight loco this would be heading for Toton depot in the East Midlands where it would mainly work coal traffic.

The EE 1,750 type 3 later class 37 would also work on coal but mainly in South Wales.

I am sorry but I do not know about the Industrial shunter (switcher) on the right.

On a personal note the class 20 D.8128 was the first of a second batch of class 20s EE built, the class was introduced in 1957, any way on a tour of steam sheds in the North West of England at Warrington amongst the steam locos was a brand new D.8128.

Thanks for bring back the memory Mike.Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

CM3 That does sound an interesting book thanks for the tip.Thumbs Up [tup]

I seem to recall when the Irish Railways wanted to re-engine their class 001s they had to do a bit of negotiating with GM as GM did not supply just power units but only complete locos, perhaps you know if this was true or not.Thumbs Up [tup] The Irish did get the engines and it was good business for GM as Irish Railway onl

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Posted by DL - UK on Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:26 AM

Hello all

 

Tom, I'll have a pint.

 

Pete - nothing worse than writing anything and then losing it - you never want to re-write it!

 

Eric - I do like the P51 - but I agree with your point about the car design I reckon there's room here for the occasion Hendon photo - I've not been there for 20 years!

Pete - my e-mail circular reply to Tom's recent message got caught on your spam interceptor - which I could not then get released, not imprtnat but maybe I should try sending you a message via the site and see if that gets through - any thoughts?

Anyway - thought people would like to read this extract from the local paper:

 

 

NEW LEASE OF LIFE FOR 1920S CITY TRAM

11:00 - 29 March 2007

 

A 1920s city tram that spent 70 years as a home could run again.

When Nottingham's original trams were retired in 1936, conductor Mabel Brewin bought one and moved it with her to Lincolnshire, where it became part of her bungalow.

The lower deck of the open-topped tram carriage housed a bedroom, washbasin and toilet and was occupied until only a few years ago.

Now the tram is to be separated from the bungalow at Hagworthingham and taken to the National Tramway Museum at Crich, Derbyshire, to be renovated.

Mrs Brewin's great-nephew, 70-year-old Jeff Holt, lives in Mapperley.

He said: "The first time I went to see her home was in the summer of 1945, when I was nine.

"The tram was originally a double-decker with an open top.

"Only the lower deck half was in use.

"There was a lean-to shed built on to the side of the tram."

Mr Holt last saw the bungalow in the 1970s, around 20 years after his great-aunt's death.

He is delighted the tram might be restored and could run again.

The Crich museum said a tip-off from a local postman had alerted them to the tram house about six years ago. They had approached the property's new owner on hearing it had been sold, who donated the carriage on the basis that the museum collected it. The tram will be lifted off its foundations by crane, loaded on to a flat-bed truck and taken the 100 miles to Crich on Saturday.

Glynn Wilton, museum curator, said: "We are delighted to have found this old Nottingham tram.

"It will fill an important gap in our collection.

"We have examples of trams from Derby, Sheffield, Chesterfield and many other towns but not Nottingham."

The tram's main body is in good condition, and the museum believes it could be renovated to give visitors rides through the tramway village.

The work could take around three years and cost more than £300,000, Mr Wilton added.

The museum will store the carriage while raising sponsorship to carry out the work.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:52 AM
Ahoy Cap'n Tom ‘n fellow travelers at the bar!

 

Ruth my deAH, time for a "jolt" in the coffee mug and a couple of crullers from the bakery case. Slow start for me this day . . .

  

Some pretty diverse ‘stuff' been provided by the guys of late. We've pretty much run the table, huh??? Just check out these past couple of pages! Toy ‘n Model Trains Day turned out to be an "event"!! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

  

Since Tom brought it up, I'll be pretty much tied up on Saturday with the family. Every year they try to come up with something to "surprise" me. Yeah right, like another b'day is a surprise! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Of course, the alternative stinks, huh?? Best to be on the surface than below it, I figger. Thumbs Up [tup]

  

Hey Shane! Hope your team knocks the socks off South Carolina. I had hoped Air Force wudda gotten in. I ALWAYS root for the service academies - ALWAYS. I think those guys are the true student athletes. ‘nuf said!

  

Got a kick outta that banter ‘tween you ‘n Da Boss on Sid Gordon, etc. Honestly don't recall a one - nary a one. Then again, the Boston Braves were pretty much a "name" only team for me - being such a young guy and all. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  

Hey Tom! Duke - Mick ‘n Willie - what a threesome in the outfield, huh? At the time they played, it would've been pretty much impossible to find any better. Willie was a magician - Mick had it all and the Duke could bring the roar to the crowd in Bums Park. Loved ‘em all. Thanks! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

  

A fine return to the bar from DL across the pond. Good to have you back and hope the comms link stays strong! Thumbs Up [tup]

  

Eric, don't quite understand how you do it, but those nighttime posts are something else. Typing while hanging upside down from a limb surely must take some ‘doing.' Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  

Were YOU really THAT young once upon a time! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  

Are you READY, Pete?? Tonight IS the night of nights. I expect you'll "know" B4 things get rowdy - as this "event" is drawing lots of attention. Appears that even the guys from the Second Class Saloon are going to swing by. I heard the Track and Motorcycle Gangs said they'd be in too. What in the world kinda "friends" have you developed ‘round here??? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

  

Sorry ‘bout that post of yours. But seems to me you may be your own worst enemy! <grin>

  

Never get tired of the D&H - one heckuva livery, for sure!

  

Sooooooooooo, check these out:

  

Sooooooooooo, check these out for something "different":  

  

  

  

Until the next time! Thumbs Up [tup]

Lars

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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:50 AM

Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house, and $ for the jukebox.  Spring has vanished for now as we have had a 25-30 degree drop in temperature here last night after a series of violent thunderstorms rolled through - always have been partial to purple-colored lightning.

 

Barndad sent more pictures from "da show."  I enlarged some of them and spent some time checking out the Plasticville structures. 

 

I had seen the diner before, but the newsstand I don't remember.  Madison Hardware was, of course, the center of the Lionel universe in NY City.  That was a fascinating piece in your picture.

 

I had the house under construction and, in fact, bought several of them which I bashed into other stuff; that kit had a lot of detail parts which could be cabbaged into other items. 

 

James sent along some pictures - I liked the FM units in the middle.

 

Eric and James - DL109s - remember them well.  Other roads that had them included the GM&O, SOU, MILW (as shown by James), ATSF, and, of course, the New Haven, which had the most.  Those of us who work with N scale have been blessed as there have been several DL109 models over the years.  I have a set of them in green and gold and use them on freights.  Maybe someday the manufacturing gods will come up with proper New Haven passenger cars other than car sides and core kits (Let go Tex, I'm done).

 

Pete - Hang in there.

OSP - Thanks for the kind words - most of the State is on life support after the other night's contest.  I don't even fool with NBA, but I do follow the college game.  More D&H material - always food to see it.  Blow up the picture at Windsor and see the dome car at the end of the train.  The second picture was, I think, taken at Portland, ME - don't hold me to this, but that is an MEC engine in the background.  The roundhouse is giving me fits, because I know I have seen it before...............

I'll probably be offline until Monday p.m.  Have to take the young man to Charleston for National Geographic State Competition tomorrow.  Hopefully, they won't do a lot on So. American rivers - that got him last year, after he ran the table on a series of questions relating to former Soviet Republics (you know, all them ‘stans.)  The we have to do a class on Monday which I'd better get ready for now.

Work safe

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:25 AM

G'day Gents!

We've had a good week or so of D&H material, and here's a bit more. Why??? Because it's "next up" in the Fallen Flags "series"! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of "Our" Place #10

 

Delaware & Hudson (D&H)

A form of this was initially Posted on Page 119 of the original Thread

source: Classic American Railroads



Here's another Passenger RR Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Caveat: The information provided is NOT all inclusive and is reflective only of the periods mentioned.  

 

Delaware and Hudson (D&H)



Headquarters: Albany, NY

Route mileage in 1950: 765 - 2000: 1,381

Locomotives in 1963: Diesels - 153

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars - 9,394 Passenger cars - 55

Principal lines in 1950:

Albany-Troy-Mechanicville, NY - Montreal, QC (Napierville Junction Railway trackage Rouses Point, NY-Montreal)
Binghamton-Oswego, NY (Erie trackage)
Nineveh, NY-Wilkes Barre, PA
Hudson-Buttonwood Yard, PA
Delanson-Mechanicville, NY
Schenectady-Balston Spa, NY
Saratoga Springs-Tahawus, NY (U.S. Government trackage North Creek-Tahawus)
Troy-Castleton, VT (B&M trackage Troy-Eagle Bridge, NY)
Whitehall, NY-Rutland, VT
Plattsburg-Lyon Mountain, NY
Plattsburg-Ausable Forks, NY
Fort Ticonderoga-Ticonderoga, NY
Oneonta-Cooperstown, NY
Cobleskill-Cherry Valley, NY

Using CONRAIL trackage in 1976:

Oswego-Buffalo & Niagara Falls, NY
Wilkes Barre-Harrisburg,PA-Washington, DC
Scranton-Allentown, PA-Newark, NJ
Allentown-Philadelphia

Passenger trains of note:

Laurentian (New York-Albany-Montreal)
Montreal Limited (New York-Albany-Montreal)

Of note:
All cars south of Albany handled by NYC.

* * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *     * * * * *  

D&H ALCO PA1 #19, Windsor Station, Montreal, Canada (foto credit: Gary Overfield)




D&H ALCO PA1 #18 (copyright: Corel Corp.)


Enjoy! Thumbs Up [tup]

Tom Captain [4:-)] Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 29, 2007 7:58 AM

Courtesy: http://www.viarail.ca/

G'day Gents!

Thursday always heralds good things to follow - Friday ‘n the weekend! Yeah!! [yeah]

Begin the countdown with a cuppa Joe, pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery and a <light> or <traditional> breakfast from our Menu Board! Thumbs Up [tup]

Received an Email from BK and sorry to report that there is a rather personal and serious situation unfolding on the home front that will keep him off-line for awhile. We respect the privacy of all who participate here and fully understand that once put into the Ether - the "world" knows. So, let's just wish BK ‘n Lydia the best! Thumbs Up [tup]

With no word from Rob, tonight is Pete's "big night" as he faces the "inquisition" for elevation to Bar Chandler. <ooooooooooh ahhhhhhhhhh> Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

For those who give a Rat's Patoot - Saturday, March 31st is the B'day for our very own Manager - Lars!

 

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS (since my last narrative):

Mike at 7:43 AM yesterday: A suprising early AM Post from "silent Mike." A little something for everyone . . . Thumbs Up [tup]

 

CM3 at 9:21 AM yesterday: Hope the power grid is geared up for the demand in "juice" as the TVs throughout WVA are tuned into "the" game - NIT Championship. GO Mountaineers! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Boston Braves, eh Question [?] Well; I don't have a single baseball card in my possession, as they and my Lionel trains have been reduced to fond memories. Funny how I can still "see" some of those cards. That Sid Gordon card, for whatever the reason, "lives" in my mind's eye. Yeah, "they" don't seem to refer to the players with the nicknames of yore. Then again, with the "sensitivities, contacts, agents, et al - who knows that would come of that sort of thing in today's way of doing things. <ugh>

I logged more than a few hours traveling between Staten Island and Manhattan aboard the ferries. Used to see those barges "loaded" with freight cars all the time - I doubt there was one trip where at least several weren't spotted. Of course, foggy trips don't count! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Many thanx for the supplemental info on the Xplorer . . . I can think of only one other customer with an "eye" for the details that come naturally to you - that's our very own Wolfman! Thumbs Up [tup] Hmmmmm, best not to forget our Resident Desert Swede as well. The three of you are absolutely "Da best" at what you do! Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup] Thumbs Up [tup]

Appreciate the round, quarters ‘n visit! Yeah!! [yeah]

 

Doug at 5:18 PM yesterday: The drought continues, however, your Post is very much appreciated! Figured the Marx "thing" could be enhanced a bit with that Encore - glad you liked it.

Marx was always kinda looked upon as the "dime store" trains back in "my day." The kids were in two camps - Lionel (me) or American Flyer (some buddies). Talk about heated discussions - those debates were something else. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Ranked right up there with who "the best centerfielder" was - Duke - Mickey or Willie. Ahhhh, let it rage on. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Nope - never had any of those structures on my Lionel layout. Nice! Thumbs Up [tup]

 

Pete at 9:28 PM yesterday: We feel your pain, Mate! BUT - after all of these months on the Forums, one should NEVER prepare a Post directly on the Thread. Use your word processor program - save it often - then copy ‘n paste it to the Thread. But then, you already know that. <groan>

 

James at 10:08 PM yesterday: Layout Pix on Toy ‘n Model Trains Day! Details as well. Thumbs Up [tup] Oh yes, I'll add you to the B'day Watch List once you answer my Email!! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Eric at 1:26 PM today: Several years ago, when VIA Rail began using the term "HEP" in reference to the Budd cars, I sent a letter to their CEO. In fact, a few friends of mine who also noticed it wrote letters too. VIA suspended use of the term, but didn't use Budd - no they used "stainless steel." For whatever the reason, they've resumed the use and it is indicative of an ignorance factor prevalent amongst a few in that organization who will never acknowledge an error. Perhaps the SAME people responsible for the purchase of those Renaissance (Chunnel Chugger) cars. Thumbs Down [tdn]

Nice Pix - would love to see a few full size versions! Thumbs Up [tup]

Some Xplorer train info - check out:

http://yardlimit.railfan.net/baldwindiesels/rp210/index.html

http://members.aol.com/dam1941/nyctolwestpassenger.html

 

Doug at 5:35 AM today: More toy train Pix! Wow!! [wow]

Regarding the prices at those "shows" - UGH! It all comes down to demand, doesn't it? I mean if no one would pony up those exorbitant prices for USED toy trains (for the most part) ‘they' wouldn't be able to remain in business. Kinda sums up my feeling for eBay and the like. Maybe when that auction thing first began it was far more "honorable" than what it has evolved to. <barf>

Keep on pushing and you'll reach the weight level you're looking for. I've dropped 20 pounds in about 7 months, but with no effort on my. If you're interested in the "secret,&qu

Happy Railroading! Siberianmo
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:35 AM

Good morning Tom and gang! I'll have the usual light breakfast please. I really misbehaved and had several slices of pizza last night. I've been eating pretty clean in 2007 till now. I'm trying to get down to Eric's weight 17 1/2 years ago. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Couldn't help but notice almost everyone in the picture was wearing tennis shoes. Hard to believe that steel toe protection was not required to work around trains. Don't know if you know this, but I put in quite a few volunteer hours at a classic airpower museum. The newest F class fighter I saw was a F4 Phantom. As for the Lionel building, I'd say it was a hobby shop. I have no idea how old it is.

The show I attended was mostly for toy trains, with a little memorbelia and some books. There's going to be another show soon that's all memorbelia at the College of DuPage, about an hour from here. All I know is that I can't afford anything from either type of show. Here's a few more pix you may find of interest:

The little workman on top of the house was hammering faster than anyone I've ever seen!

This was pretty neat. The small scale train for the kids works!

Bummer on losing your post Peter. I almost never write anything directly to the editor here. Thanks for the pix James. Looks like you have your own space to be creative, and plenty of it!

Have a great day everyone!

Blush [:I] Joe had asked Bob to help him out with the deck after work, so Bob just went straight over to Joe's place. When they got to the door, Joe went straight to his wife, gave her a hug and told her how beautiful she was and how much he had missed her at work. When it was time for supper, he complimented his wife on her cooking, kissed her and told her how much he loved her.

Once they were working on the deck, Bob told Joe that he was surprised that he fussed so much over his wife. Joe said that he'd started this about 6 months ago, it had revived their marriage, and things couldn't be better.

Bob thought he'd give it a go. When he got home, he gave his wife a massive hug, kissed her and told her that he loved her. His wife burst into tears.

Bob was confused and asked why she was crying. She said, "This is the worst day of my life. First, little Billy fell off his bike and twisted his ankle. Then, the washing machine broke and flooded the basement. And now, you come home drunk!" Blush [:I]

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Posted by EricX2000 on Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:26 AM

Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

– Leon, how are you doing? Working late every night, are you never tired? Well, I would like some Steak and Bisquits, please! Yeah, I know but I like them!

Some toy train posts this Wednesday and also some stuff from Canada! Pete had bad luck and that is no fun at all. His post is floating around in cyber space! Grab it if you see it.

DL –  I agree that the Spitfire is a very good looking airplane, but I still like the P-51 Mustang a little bit better.Wink [;)] Probably beacuase I like those straight, thin, wings. It is the same about cars, I am not big on these rounded cars you see today, I want more straight lines. I have been to the RAF museum in Hendon and I have a lot of pictures from it. But I am afraid this is not the right place for that kind of pictures. Oops [oops]

Doug –  Rain in Chicagoland!? Hope it stopped before anything bad happened to your basement. Or have they fixed that problem now?Question [?]

I have heard about Marx trains but I don’t think I have seen any of their locomotives or cars. A toy train indeed!Thumbs Up [tup]

Nice pictures from the Sunday show!Thumbs Up [tup] What kind of building is that supposed to be? (the top one). What kind of show was it? Toy trains?

Tom –  Wood paneling in the cab? I guess that was because the operator is outside most of the time! Mischief [:-,]

I wonder why VIA is calling their Budd cars HEP?Confused [%-)] HEP for me means Head End Power, nothing else. HEP is necessary for the cars when in service, not only for the Bud cars but all passenger cars.

18 places and things to do and see in Canada 1950!Thumbs Up [tup] I think I would pick the sky-high Rockies! Nice pictures, I love the second one from the top! Beautiful country! I think the third picture is created in a computer! The shadows are falling in slightly different directions or there are no shadows at all. But it certainly looks very nice!!

Some more info on the Marx trains!Thumbs Up [tup] 1919 to 1978! Interesting to see how things went downhill after Marx retired.

Thanks Tom!

Mike –  A bunch of very nice pictures!Thumbs Up [tup] Nice looking Alcos and steam engines! Some very British diesels with their typical sign in the front showing the train number (??).Question [?]

And a picture of the X2000 outside Alingsås (roughly about 35 miles norteast of Gothenburg). I have been running the X2000 hundreds of times over that line. Too bad they changed the paint scheme! It looks so bad now.Grumpy [|(]

CM3 –  I know you kind of guessed it was a F-18, I just wanted to show how much I know!Wink [;)]
That P-51 sounded very good! I got pretty close to it after it landed. 

Pete –  I’ll buy you two more large Bathams after what happened to you! Losing something like that makes me... well, kind of upset. Banged Head [banghead]

James –  Some very nice pictures from your (?) layout!Thumbs Up [tup] I like the top one the best!Smile [:)] I have to do some research about those DL109s! I have seen pictures of them before and they have their own style. 

Almost 17 1/2 years ago. I looked a tiny little bit younger then. Not much though, basically the same. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Eric 

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Posted by CMSTPP on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:08 PM

G-day Captain [4:-)] Tom and all present!

Leon- Lets skip the coffee and go on to a turkey sandwich. Thanks!

I thought I would drop off some layout pics.

here is my U25B. At the moment it's on it's 90 day inspection and sitting aside getting the checks. So far it has passed all the tests.Thumbs Up [tup] It is one of Bowsers newer locomotives. Very nicely detailed.

Another shot of the locomotives at the engine house. Most are U-boats. Love the U-boatsBow [bow]  And a GP38-2 on the end waiting for anything that pops up.

Last picture is of my passenger units. The DL109s are probably the largest of the passenger units. They are the first locomotives on the left. the Milwaukee Road only bought two of these Alco made units. They really didn't go over big with the Milwaukee. the F-units and the Erie built locomotives were the Milwaukees primary power.

Enjoy!

Happy railroadingLaugh [(-D]

James

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