Evening Leon , I see that it ws one of those days (daze) oh well concidering our low numbers today I still found us in position two on the page,one would have thought a holiday weekend would have dragged them in in droves.I think a Keith's will do me well this evening.
Tom-Ah yes music does calm the savage beast dosen't it. Like you we have wide ranges of music likes and loves,do try to find some Great Big Sea, they have a concert DVD available as well which is quite good. We've bought all their CD's and the DVD seen them in person twice as well they really are good,and they still live in St John's as well,just good country boys and they are quite well known in both countries
I had forgotten about the cabin,mind you we have a radio tracking collar on Boris and all of the menagerie,Inspector clueless keeps tabs on them that way,this way he doesn't react to townfolk's cries of alarm if they see good ole Boris stalking through the woods.
Loved today's book covah's as well,I had a copy of the NYC book in my hand at the last train show I went to Iput iot down and figured that I would come back latter for it ( the guy only wanted $30 bucks for it )as expected I missed it It's one I will get eventually.
Donchajustlove these holiday weekends. Brand new long weekend for us as well,family day,the provincial gov. promised it as a campaign promise last fall <barf> they got re-elected and at least they followed through ( which is something for them )main difference is that it's been declared a stat. holiday sooo stores were closed except those in tourist areas.Love the Keg myself just don't like the prices they would and do gag a healthy maggot up here.
Mike-great photo's and a great read 5x
Dan-More interesting info on DMU's thank-you. Lars will be missed but he definatly left with the class and head held high attitude he always carried while he was at the bar.
Pete- Good to see you in again. Thanks for the extra info on those headboards and why they were removed.
I'd mail you a copy of your tab but the bulk mail rates are quite highI've heard the stories of the "Black bag" I think we might be able to make a movie about it.
Rob
G'day Gents!
Was beginning to think that this was going to be one of "those' days - with only Posts from Moi. Thankfully, Wolfman came along at a most unusual time for him ‘n saved the morning!
And then Dan (DL-UK) arrived with the 3,700th Reply on our Thread! A libation of your choice, Mate!
Specific comments in the next round of ACKNOWLEDGMENTS! [tup]
Now Arriving on Track Number Two!
Hard Cover Classic Train Books for the Can-Am Library!
Number Three
Pennsylvania Railroad's Broadway Limited <in the library>
Book Description: This authoritative, illustrated history tells the story of one of the country's premier passenger trains, Pennsylvania Railroads Broadway Limited, an institution in New York to Chicago rail travel from 1902 to 1955. Text and pictures introduce readers to the posh cars and powerful engines, the luxuries and amenities on board, the stations, terminals, and timetables everything that made the train the pride of the Pennsylvania. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: This authoritative, illustrated history tells the story of one of the country's premier passenger trains, Pennsylvania Railroads Broadway Limited, an institution in New York to Chicago rail travel from 1902 to 1955. Text and pictures introduce readers to the posh cars and powerful engines, the luxuries and amenities on board, the stations, terminals, and timetables everything that made the train the pride of the Pennsylvania.
20th Century Limited <in the library>
Book Description: This authoritative history of the 20th Century Limited from 1902 to its 1967 demise examines the train; its steam, electric, and diesel motive power; and its swank passenger cars, services, and amenities. The Century was a train of magnates and movie stars, with a red carpet rolled out for departure from Chicago to New York City. With the finest of food in the diner and a full array of amenities - barber, secretary, shower, maid - the 20th Century Limited set the standards against which all other passenger trains would be measured. This book tells the complete story of this extraordinary train, from its illustrious beginning in the days of opulent wooden cars through its demise in the era of passenger-train cutbacks that lead to the formation of Amtrak. <from: amazon.com>
Book Description: This authoritative history of the 20th Century Limited from 1902 to its 1967 demise examines the train; its steam, electric, and diesel motive power; and its swank passenger cars, services, and amenities. The Century was a train of magnates and movie stars, with a red carpet rolled out for departure from Chicago to New York City. With the finest of food in the diner and a full array of amenities - barber, secretary, shower, maid - the 20th Century Limited set the standards against which all other passenger trains would be measured. This book tells the complete story of this extraordinary train, from its illustrious beginning in the days of opulent wooden cars through its demise in the era of passenger-train cutbacks that lead to the formation of Amtrak.
Classic American Railroad Terminals <in the library>
Book Description: In the 19th and early 20th centuries, when the train represented the apex of high-speed travel, railroad companies spared no artistic or monetary expense in the design and construction of their stations. Structures coast to coast, past and present, are represented in this history of American railroad terminals. A blend of archival photographs, both black-and-white and color, combine with modern color shots to relate the stories behind the design, the architecture, and the use of terminals like Grand Central Station and Pennsylvania Station in New York City, Washington, D.C.'s Union Station, Chicago's Dearborn Station and Union Station, Minneapolis' Milwaukee Road Station, and the Union Passenger Terminal in Los Angeles, to name a few. <from: barnesandnoble.com>
Book Description: In the 19th and early 20th centuries, when the train represented the apex of high-speed travel, railroad companies spared no artistic or monetary expense in the design and construction of their stations. Structures coast to coast, past and present, are represented in this history of American railroad terminals. A blend of archival photographs, both black-and-white and color, combine with modern color shots to relate the stories behind the design, the architecture, and the use of terminals like Grand Central Station and Pennsylvania Station in New York City, Washington, D.C.'s Union Station, Chicago's Dearborn Station and Union Station, Minneapolis' Milwaukee Road Station, and the Union Passenger Terminal in Los Angeles, to name a few.
All Aboard America - Classic American Trains <in the library>
Book Description: All Aboard America is a glorious collection of photographs from America's greatest era of passenger railroading. These trains were more than just machines - they had personalities of their own. Their very names evoke the image of romance: the Aztec Eagle - the Broadway Limited - the Canadian - the City of New Orleans - the Dixie Flyer - the Olympian Hiawatha - the Orange Blossom Special - the Pioneer Zephyr - the Super Chief - the Twentieth Century Limited - the Wabash Cannonball. This book is a nostalgic look at those glorious days when riding the train Happy Railroading! Siberianmo DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Monday, February 18, 2008 12:27 PM Hello Tom and all in I'll have a pint of Harvey's please. I enjoyed that link to the Eugene electric railway station - very informative. Thanks for posting. Well, now I've done the catch up I can see that Lars left as he lived. A great play out of covers and a typical post - I can't say more than others have done - he'll be missed by me!Eric - I enjoyed those pics of the Havelock shops - and the family connection as nice to hear about too. Also liked the pics of the DMUs from Sweden that you posted - which others have also complemented you on.As you've already established the Jubilee Line of London underground was named for the silver Jubilee of the Queen - and the lines colour on the map is a kind of silver. It must have been pretty new when you rode it in 1979 - as you will have seen it was extensively extended in the late 1990s and now serves a larger area of south and east London. I recall that it was originally going to be called by another name - Fleet Line I think - but I can't recall if that is correct and if so why that was the name.Mike - some great pic displays - esp liked GM&O colour shots - reminds me of a film I enjoy - In the Heat of the Night - great GM&O scenes in that picture.Our Home Railways - looks like a book that covers the early days of UK railways. Jan - epic catch up - with great illustrations! What more is there to say.Rob - again - nice illustrated posts - esp a few days back with some vintage Via equipment - enjoyed the pics - and the comment!Ron - nice to hear more details on your VW K-G - what was your MG? I would think given the vintage perhaps it was a TF? The last of the classic designed MGs some would say. Talking of car ownership the idea that the MG brand - for that is all it now is - is in Chinese ownership really is a turn up for the books (never mind who owns Jaguar and Land Rover - with their production plants in continuous operation I think the culture of the vehicle is continued - hard to claim that is the case with MG). Their factory in Abingdon near Oxford was wiped off the face of the map very early in the 1980s after MGB construction was terminated.To answer your question - I've never been a spam fan myself - seem to recall it got served cold at school with salad!Nick - your story of time on Guildford (sounds a bit high security....) reminded me of a time as a young teenager at the end of London Bridge station. EMU driver pulled up and leaned out of his cab to talk to me (this was on the through platforms) - asked what I'd seen that day and then showed me his own note book with the numbers listed of every unit he'd driven over the years! A fleeting conversation - but one that has stuck with me for 20+ years since!Allan - enjoyed your recent posts mate. Thanks for posting the Westoe link. Allotment sheds - you're talking about Pot Leeks are you not? The tradition has transferred to round here - esp around Mansfield where lots of Geordies came to work the collieries after the NE pits shut down and the NCB transferred them to the new pits being opened up here - now all closed of course. Bringing with them the ‘pit yacker' language you probably know far better than me!Pete - going back to your earlier query I don't know much either about coach scrapping - I bet that was at BR works and also contractors - I expect there was less to salvage so done very quickly - (wooden stock being burned out probably to get to metal quickly). Earlier generations sometime made it to build holiday homes by the seaside in various places - some still exist - I think you are right about the LNER buffets being used on Harwich inter regional services in the last days (I've only seen pictures) - but your pic of a 156 DMU reminded me that I went on one of these in about 1990 to Harwich - it originated in Liverpool - and this must have been the final version of this service - does not run through any longer as the services on that route go to Norwich. I was heading for Amsterdam via the Hoek of Holland and a sea crossing by ferry of course.I agree with your verdict on the 156 class DMUs - they have good windows to seat alignment and are more comfortable than 158s - with no air conditioning you can open the windows to drown out the noise of the mobile phone / i-pod nuisance too!Coalminer3 mentions the book on safety that was doing the rounds - I've been reading the first part of Tom Rolt (the author) autobiography (Landscape with Machines) - this covers his time as an apprentice at Kerr Stuart's loco works and other matters. It also mentions the Shropshire and Montgomery Light Railway - so I was looking something up about that and I think regulars will enjoy this link:http://www.hfstephens-museum.org.uk/pages/topics/potty/potty1.htmCoupe of good quotes:"I particularly enjoyed this work when the Rattlers broke down away from Kinnerley. A platelayers' trolley was acquired, and Sid and myself pumped our way to the scene of the disaster. This seemed to often take place when they were doing a run to Criggion, and failure usually took place in the vicinity of the Tontine Hotel!"And concerning repairs in their antiquated workshop (this was the late 1920s): "To use a naval expression, this was all done "handraulic" hacksaw, ratchet drill and hammer and chisel."Hand-raulic - I like it!!CheersDLPS - Pete - you are in early doors? Fancy a pint on me? pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Monday, February 18, 2008 11:52 AM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your coffee and an egg and bacon sarnie please RUTH.TOM It was a privilege to travel on that train in Support of the Royal British Legion, I think they had requested the Princess Elizabeth locomotive to haul the train and I if I remember right it was the first Princess class to work over the North Wales Coast Line since BR steam days.Yes MacDonald's Farm was a very popular song when I was a kid in England, I wonder if the kids of today still know it.Great choice of Encores from Lars and BK we were very fortunate to have those two at the bar.I have heard the UP called the Overland Route but had forgotten it took the name from the Overland Mail Company later taken over by Wells Fargo.Not only did Sir Martin Frobisher have a bay in Canada named after him but two steam locomotives as well. Southern Railway Lord Nelson class No.30864 and LMS Jubilee No 45640. In 1958 the SR engine worked off Bournemouth shed while the Jubilee was allocated to Carlisle (Kingmoor).I did notice in BK's post that we were on page 400 and the replies were approaching 8,000. I just wonder what the views were then, I don't think we were getting as many views then as we do today, as you say at the top of your post, it is a pity that some of those viewing can't call in the bar if only now and then.I see you are getting ready for St Patrick's Day; it is only a month away now.I thought my bar tab was well under control.Two more good films it looks like on at the Emporium this week,that I have not seen. Gettysburg seems a good action movie and Whale Rider looks a different type of film that is usually on but looks well worth watching and, of course the Stooges.ALLAN Good words for Senior Manager Lars..Glad you are enjoying the Shildon photos, we are getting on to the more modern types of steam locomotives.The British Legion had a lot of clubs when I was younger, there was even one in my village, but together with the working men's clubs their number seems greatly reduced during the last couple of decades or so. I wonder how many of the working men's clubs are left in the Newcastle area nowadays, I believe there were some really large clubs in the 1960s and 70s.I think the Rugby 7s were well received in San Diego, I just found out there is a Rugby Union team here in town.NICK Glad to see the catching up at the bar is going well.It will be interesting to see if there is any cavalcade or really big eventon BR to celebrate the Stockton & Darlington 200 in 2025.I think the only time I saw Cookham Manor in steam was at Shildon. I see the Severn Valley Railway is hoping to have two Manors in steam for their Autumn Gala this year.ROB Yes I agree the headboards did not look anywhere as good on the diesels as one the steam locomotives. Another thing that disappeared at the same time was the destination boards that were fixed above the windows on the carriages.. As well as showing the route of the train e.g. London - Glasgow on the named trains there was a board with the train name on it as well. A nice touch was the Royal Scot boards were in tartan like the headboard.One reason the carriage boards were discontinued was the spread of the overhead electrification posing a danger to staff as they took the boards on and off.I'm afraid the black bag goes everywhere, ask Tom.Good reading about the Stratford shops. Those cranes must have had a large lifting capacity.Hope you are getting on with the paper work and the ‘Admin Duties'ERIC Yes it must be very scary to be driving when the wheels of the train just slide when you are approaching a stop. I believe that the modern units are not fitted with sanders.What did you do when the wheels slid like that; I guess release the brakes and try agai siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Monday, February 18, 2008 7:06 AM <personal foto>A smile to begin the week!After a night at the Opera with his wife, he was asked if he enjoyed it. He replied, "I really liked it. Even the music was good."<A Yogi-ism!>G'day Gents!Blue Monday <for some> ‘n a great day <for others> - Mondays are like that! <grin> Check out our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast; fill up the coffee mug ‘n grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case. "Second best" way to begin the week . . . Another "Mall Holiday" here in the USA - I'll put up the title to this joint if more than a handful of citizens do ANYTHING to reflect on the meaning of this day we call President's Day. Used to be George Washington's Birthday ‘til the PC crowd took over the Congress. <barf> Well, at least CM3 Shane has the day "off" . . . <grin>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comments from the Proprietor:CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTESTWhen will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Participants thus far:(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)Contest CLOSES today! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Sunday - Feb 17th: <all times Central standard>Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 4:49 PM: A rare Sunday appearance by our newly anointed Manager - way to go! Normally I don't let Boris go a-wanderin' without adult supervision! <grin> But I see he made it back with all the critters in tow . . . <grin> Anytime you want to take him, Leon ‘n the gang up to our cabin at Can-Am Gorge - go right ahead. The keys to the place are right over there . . .We are music listeners in this Haus ‘n weekends are great for it. I try to mix it up, so Saturday we listened to the Kingston Trio - over ‘n over ‘n over. Those CDs should be worn out, but keep on playin' Then yesterday it was our "Maritime Day," really puts one in a good frame of mind, eh Youbetcha! Thanx for the names - I'll do some surfin' . . . Last weekend was Big Band on Saturday - then Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass along with the Baja Marimba on Sunday . . . Ahhhhhh, music is good for the soul. Just the mention of "The Keg" brings to mind one of our favorite places in Vancouver ‘n Winnipeg. Found the most wonderful restaurants while there. We've had dinner at the one in downtown Vancouver several times over the three visits to that wonderful city. Appreciate the visit ‘n chat! Page 185 - Ron (DD1) at 11:18 AM: <uh oh> Page 185 - Mike (wanswheel) at 9:27 PM: And another rare visit on Sunday - this time from Not-So-Silent Mike! Happy Railroading! Siberianmo wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:27 PM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house tomorrowGoing to try to slide this monster through the mail slot. New York Central 60th Street Yard. Great Grain Elevator The New York Times December 22, 1876The New Structure Of The New York-Central And Hudson River Railroad Company -- One Of The Largest And Most Complete Elevators In Existence -- The Manner In Which Grain Is Stored And Graded The new grain elevator of the New-York Central and Hudson River Railroad, at Twelfth avenue and Sixtieth street, is not only one of the largest of its class, but possesses the greatest storage capacity of any similar structure in the country. The building, which, from the outside, resembles a ship-house of the Brooklyn Navy Yard somewhat magnified, is 354 feet long by 100 feet wide, and covers nearly seven-ninths of an acre. It is constructed of brick and wood, with a heavily slated roof, and is 152 feet in height from the ground to the summit of the "lantern top," or upper story. The foundation consists of 7,000 piles, eighty feet in length, driven into the ground up to their full length. On the piles are the main timbers, 12 inches by 12, running latitudinally, these being covered with a double thickness of 6-inch planks, the tops of which are level with the surface of the river at low water. The immediate foundation consists of 32 rows of stone piers, six in each row, making 192 piers in all, each 10-1/2 feet square at the bottom and 3 feet square at the top, constructed of granite, in five courses. Upon these piers are laid the floor-beams, and upon the latter are mounted the main posts, of yellow pine, 20 feet long and 14 inches square. The walls of the ediface are 24 inches thick for the first twenty feet, and beyond that are composed of 8 inches of brick, with an inside backing of wood of equal width, making 16-inch walls. There is also an additional support in the shape of brick pilasters, 12 inches thick, distributed along the inside of the wall at intervals of 26 feet. The entire building is divided into seven floors, the ground or "track" floor being occupied by three railway tracks for the reception of grain cars, and the second, or bagging, floor consisting of an immense, low apartment, not unlike the between-decks of a ship, and crowded with heavy beams and supports for the main floor above. The third floor is occupied by the immense grain-bins, the largest of which are 80 feet high and 12 feet square, each built to contain from 1,500 to 8,000 bushels of grain. There are nearly 300 of these bins, with an aggregate storage capacity of 1,500,000 bushels. Above them is the peculiarly-shaped central story called the "lantern top," 44 feet wide and nearly 40 feet high, running the entire length of the building. This contains four floors, the first for spouts, the second for weighing hoppers, the third for a receiving house, and the fourth for the main line of shafting. On the second floor of this top story are twenty-two great weighing scales. Eleven for receiving and eleven for discharging grain, each capable of weighing a car-load at once.The work of handling the grain is done by twenty-two large elevators, ranged in two rows of eleven each, each row occupying the interval between two tracks. The grain is raised by continuous lines of tin buckets, attached to rubber beltings, 300 feet long by 22 inches wide, which revolves at such a rate that 60,000 bushels, or rather more than 100 car-loads can be discharged in an hour. Along each elevator is a speaking-tube, through which directions can be given to the workmen at either end, and by which the work of unloading cars can be regulated to a nicety. Between the tracks are rows of iron tanks for receiving the grain from the cars, each capable of containing 1,000 bushels. The main belt by which the shafting revolves is said to be the largest in the world, being 325 feet long and 4 feet wide, and composed of seven-ply rubber of the total thickness of half an inch. Ample steam power is supplied by an engine of 500 horse power, situated at the north-eastern end of the building. An isolated chimney, of brick, 150 feet high and 15 feet square at the base, conveys the smoke to a safe distance above the slated roofs, so that the chance of a spark entering the interior of the structure is reduced almost to nothing. About six million feet of lumber, and 2,000,000 bricks have been used in the work of construction, and the entire cost of the structure, exclusive of foundation and land, is over three hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Messrs. Gill & Mansfield are the builders, and Mr. Charles Hillen, Chief Engineer of the New-York Central and Hudson River Railroad the architect. Including the cost of ground, (which is entirely made land,) the foundation of heavy piling, and the side railway tracks twenty-six in number, the cost of the whole establishment borders closely on $750,000. The ground to the eastward of the ediface, to the extent of some twenty acres, has been filled in to a depth of fifteen feet with gravel brought in daily trains from Croton, forty miles up the river.One of the chief benefits which will accrue to the grain trade of the Metropolis from the erection of this elevator, will be the practical application of the grain grading principle so long advocated by the Produce Exchange. The building is leased by the Hudson River Railroad to Mr. Charles Whitney, by whom it is employed for the storage of grain belonging to individual members of the Exchange and others. Storage fees are paid by the owner. All the wheat, corn, oats &o., stored in the building is to be divided into different grades, each grade often comprising hundreds of thousands of bushels, the property of scores, or it may be hundreds of owners. The grain of each consignee on arrival is discharged into the general mass of its own kind and grade. When the time comes for its removal, a proportionate amount of grain of the same grade then in store is delivered, although not a particle of it may have belonged to the original consignment. By this means large stocks of carefully graded grain are kept constantly in store and are transferred from hand to hand without the complications and expense attending their storage in separate parcels. The work of examination and classification is in the hands of a Grading Committee appointed by the Produce Exchange, to inspect and classify the stock on its arrival. The building is expected to be ready for occupancy on the 20th inst. An average force of 250 workmen has been employed upon it since the last of August, and the entire superstructure has been erected within the past four months. Mike trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:49 PM Hello Leon I see that you are buffing and polishing the bar for tomorrow morning. Ruth does like to see herself in the shine on the counter ( so do the rest of us )Anyway i think I'll grab a Keith's while I do some necessary paperwork,best to do it when it's quiet. ( Boris and the critters are off in the woods )I see that we have gone through more PPF already this month than last hmmm I'll need to have a word with H&H I hope that they aren't adding it to the the mushy peas again on Fish and Chip night.Tom-Looks like a couple good ones for the Emporium this week . Loved Gettysburg !I hope that Nick hasn't openned up about Valentines night for the reasons your thinking ,mind you gentlemen don't tell tales. I do indeed like the old downhome music from teh Maritimes we have a fair collection iof it ourselves. personal fav's of the Bride and I are Stan Roger's,Great Big Sea ( highly recomended) ,The Barre MacNeils ,The Rankin Family,with honourable mentions to Rita MacNeiland Ashly MacIssac. You know if tabs get too long we can always resort to Vito's collection services<uh oh >,that or do as we always do , and let Boris hold the late payers up by the ankles and shake till we're paid in full or at least we've collected the gold fillings.Ron-Hope the comp isn't down for extended periods,not to worry we shall be here wehn your back up and running.Eric-The Stratford were a CNR facility , it rivaled thier Pointe Ste Charles shops in Montreal in size and output.Six CB's and over 2400 visits , good lord man you need to expand your horizons try the Keg or Red Lobster once in a whileRob siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:22 PM We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre! . . . February 17th thru 23rd: Gettysburg (1993) Starring: Richard Anderson, Royce D. Applegate, Tom Berenger, Bo Brinkman & Dwier Brown - and - Whale Rider (2003) Starring: Keisha Castle-Hughes, Rawiri Paratene, Vicky Haughton, Cliff Curtis & Grant Roa. SHORT: The Three Stooges - If A Body Meets A Body (1945). Gettysburg (1993)PLOT SUMMARY: Three days in the summer of 1863, at a place called Gettysburg. Although it received a theatrical release, this four-hour depiction of the bloody Civil War battle was shot as a made-for-television film. But no taint of cheapness or shortcuts should stick to this magnificent picture (well, except maybe for those phony-looking mustaches). Based on Michael Shaara's book The Killer Angels, this film takes a refreshingly slow, thorough approach to the intricacies of battle. In ordinary circumstances, those intricacies might seem of importance only to fans of military strategy or Civil War enthusiasts, yet in Gettysburg they come across as the very stuff of life, death, and unexpected heroism. If the film has a problem, it's that it climaxes too early: the first long segment, detailing the struggle of a "civilian soldier," Union Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (Jeff Daniels), to hold his ground against long odds, is an enthralling piece of moviemaking. Daniels, in a heartbreaking performance, does his best film work. Other cast members include Tom Berenger, Sam Elliott, and Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee. Richard Jordan, in his final role, gives a powerhouse performance as Confederate general Lewis A. Armistead. Oh, and you can also try to spot Ted Turner, whose company produced the film, as a Confederate soldier. Writer-director Ronald F. Maxwell seems inspired by the gravity of the battle; long as it is, every moment of Gettysburg is informed by a nobility of purpose. --Robert Horton <from: amazon.com> Whale Rider (2003)PLOT SUMMARY: One of the most charming and critically acclaimed films of 2003, the New Zealand hit Whale Rider effectively combines Maori tribal tradition with the timely "girl power" of a vibrant new millennium. Despite the discouragement of her gruff and disapproving grandfather (Rawiri Paratene), who nearly disowns her because she is female and therefore traditionally disqualified from tribal leadership, 12-year-old Pai (Keisha Castle-Hughes) is convinced that she is a tribal leader, and sets about to prove it. Rather than inflate this story (from a novel by Witi Ihimaera) with artificial sentiment, writer-director Niki Caro develops very real and turbulent family relationships, intimate and yet torn by a collision between stubborn tradition and changing attitudes. The mythic whale rider--the ultimate symbol of Maori connection to nature--is also the harbinger of Pai's destiny, and the appealing Castle-Hughes gives a luminous, astonishingly powerful performance that won't leave a dry eye in the house. With its fresh take on a familiar tale, Whale Rider is definitely one from the heart. --Jeff Shannon <from: amazon.com> SHORT: The Three Stooges - If A Body Meets a Body Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:18 AM Good day, Due to a computer virus, I must delay reporting to Our place until it is fixed. Edit siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:55 AM "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays!<However, use the mail slots to drop off any comments that just can't wait!>G'day Gents!A Sunday morning round of ACKNOWELDGMENTS, just to get a "leg up" on things before the new week begins in earnest . . . Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Saturday - Feb 16th: <all times Central standard>Page 185 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:29 PM: Been thinking about New Zealand these days - no particular reason for it, but on my mind. Have you been to Christchurch As I understand it there's a U.S. presence there pretty much year ‘round for the support of the Antarctic bases . . . also a port o' call for our USCG ice breakers who are part of Operation Deep Freeze. And to think that I cudda been there - but turned down the opportunities for 7 month deployments. <grin> Yes indeed, youth IS definitely wasted on the young. <aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh> I'd go in a NY minute today . . . but then all I could offer up would be "tales from back in the day." ‘Fraid my seagoing skills have diminished with the ravages of this ‘n that . . . <groan>Don't know if you've ever heard of this gal - Dr. Jerri Nielsen, but she wrote a compelling real-life account of her experiences at the U.S. South Pole base. She came down with a "lump" in places where women don't ever want to fine them. Anyway, the account of what she went through in that oh-so-remote ‘n inaccessible place in the winter months is absolutely riveting. The book is entitled Ice Bound . . . a great inspiring read, fer sure, fer sure. And speaking of books - Eric sez he's almost ready with to ship if off . . . so, give it a few more weeks, Mate! The 2007-08 RR Book Relay "lives"! A fine < I3 > Post from our Resident Downunder NZ Kiwi! Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 8:14 PM: Not the most ravishing of lasses - however, dontchajustluv a woman in uniform She was a gal from Québec, but not all that willing to chit-chat - especially with the likes of Moi! <uh oh> Probably still wonderin' how two of those three characters made their escape from the "home"! <grin>There were smells of the old NYC subway system that will never leave me - sorta like the old "oleo margarine" from back in the 40s - but only mixed with just a smattering of spoiled onion ‘n garlic. <yikes> <barf> Some things just won't depart the old cranium storage bin. <grin>Something to ponder: Musha[G] ring dum a doo dum a da, [C]Whack fol de daddy o, [F]Whack fol de daddy o There's[C] whiskey[G] in the[C] jar. Just makes ya wanna break out the ole Gibson ‘n go for it! As always, appreciate the visit, ROUND ‘n chat! Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:21 PM: Good of you to pick up on the "trouble maker" situation. They definitely require lots of surveillance . . . AND ensure that neither gets anywhere close to the stairwell leading the 3rd level Penthouse Suite! That's "off-limits" yesterday - today ‘ tomorrow to the both of ‘em. Speaking of "tabs" - we most times don't run ‘em - but of course exceptions ARE made for our regulars . . . Our Bar Chandler has one so long that at times we think of it as "necessary room paper" . . . <uh oh>Just finished up with some music of the Maritimes. Have you ever heard of Evans & Doherty or Sons of Maxwell Got turned on to these groups over 10 years ago when up in Cape Breton. A friend of mine owned a record store in Sydney <since closed> ‘n that began our collection. Used to order by internet from him too. Great stuff, fer sure, fer sure! Needless to say, lots of "sailor songs" to <mutter> along with. Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:49 AM Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!Leon, I am glad I made just in time before you close this place, "Our" Place! Do you have any... you do?! Good! Medium, please and lots of mushrooms! A cold Tui, please! A pretty cold Saturday, it is nice to come into this warm and nice Saloon by the Siding for a while!Tom – I feel like I am one of the group who “ease” into the retirement. It feels good! I love these long weekends! I think you have all reasons in the world to be concerned about what is going on at the Second Class Saloon! Very concerned. Thanks for re-posting Senior Manager Lars’ and BK’s old posts! Interesting info on Thanksgiving Day in Canada!Pete – Thanks for the info on your Royal British Legion Tour! 1989? That is 19 years ago! Yes, you can easily hear when the wheels start slipping and you can also feel it. The worst part is when you have to stop at a certain place a gray day in the fall, when it is kind of wet outside making the rails extremely slippery. When you apply the brakes and can hear how quiet it gets when the wheels (and traction motors) stop spinning you know you might be in trouble. Nice photos from Shildon. Did they run just the locomotives on that track or did they also have them pull any trains? Allan – I have been to Cracker Barrel many times. I go there for lunch every workday. Since “my” particular CB opened in January 1998 I have been there 2,472 times. I keep track of all my visits! There are now 6 Cracker Barrels here in the Valley. More will open soon. Nick – The old country is Ireland? Hmm, I don’t feel very Irish. I don’t even know how it feels to be Irish! I know an Irish guy, have to ask him. Irish? Hmmm, no it wouldn’t work, they don’t even speak Swedish! I have to check the County Donegal Railway! Rob – Stratford Shops, what railroad did they belong to? Some pictures of signals. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Saturday, February 16, 2008 11:21 PM Good evening Leon, figured that I would pop in and help yopu lock up the joint,was a tad slooow today,oh well the young Canadian ladies and lads going bareback behind the bar were a refreshing change from the normal railroad hobo's and the Fusiliers practicing.I'll take a Keith's though and a nice medium rare T-bone though.Tom-Good thoughts about Vito,we gotta watch that guy he's always trying to buy into the local busineses.I guess he's made to much money over the years at Molly's mudwrestling side of her establishment. Nice touch with the encore's from the bookends,good way to round out the week As for those two trouble makers their pictures are plastered all over the Mentor village<uh oh> Mr doyle assures me that he will keep tabs on them,no Boris he dosen't mean to hang them up with the tabs <sheesh>go back to your sheds I think your inflatables are lonelyPete-thaks for the headboard info, looked like a neat tradition on the name trains, the board did not look as good looked sort of out of place on the diesel,one of the reason's I'm guessing that the practice was discontinued in the 60's, that and I guess the powers at be figured it was an old fashioned notion.Glad you enjoyed the round your welcome. Perhaps one day we can share a real one together,so long as the "black bag" isn't involved Today's steam shots are keepers for sure. looks like you are getting the hang of your new toyeric-Loved the shot of the Altoona loco facilities, they look to be the same size as the Once massive Stratford big shops in Stratford Ontario,all now torn down. At one point likley half the abled bodied working males in straford worked there,full steam locomotive building and rebuilding happened there. there are pictures of the big 6200 series CNR staemers travelling fully assembled ( minus the tender ) on the main shops over head gantry cranes.Allan-Thanks for the thumbs up on the rather massive shoes whose job I'm attempting to fill.Sounds like street racing teens are not just a problem here in Canada. I aggree that 16 ( the legal driving age here ) is way to young I can't imagine giving younger than that a set of keys and four wheels.Nick-Hmmm another carling man good choice, though I suppose that you really haven't met a beer that you didn't likeI hope that you have healed up from the festivities from Valentines eve,I'm still trying to decide if those really are authentic scalps that Helga came home withRob nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:14 PM Well hello and happy saturday to one and all-have just returned from a rare-(1st time in about 2 years) visit to our village pub so am fuelled with equal parts of Carling lager and Cleddau Redeye (along with Pembrokeshire new potatoes,a key element in the local economy...) and am determined to stick to my task-apologies to those who have posted since I was last here but I WILL catch up-theres too much good stuff out there to miss...So,without further ado-Leon-A round for the house please old love-yes-the back room as well-and also that bunch of Canadian backpackers that are having a swimwear B-B-Q out in the snow in the back yard Now where was I-aaaaah yes.....SUN:-TOM-The pix from the rendevous-lovely !!-that second one of you Ted & Rob looks like the most rubbish I.D parade ever ...."O.K. miss-can you identify the man that made that TERRIBLE remark to you.....?" -Nice one--The stewardess on the VIA train looks spookilly like my doctor-A lovely girl who I see every day on the school run (stop it you lot-it`s neither clever nor funny....PETE-More from the cavalcade-and all fine shots--a once in a lifetime chance-how cool is THAT !!!!!-saw Cookham Manor in steam at Didcot-something not right with seeing a good road engine stuck shuffling up and down a quarter mile of track LARS-A marvellous swansong-A fine selection of sepia tones-the embodiment of the classic trains ideal...ERIC-Enjoyed the guided tour round Havelock shops-nice one mate -you got a genuine double-take out of me with that first `Old country` pic-normally in Britain,the old country is Ireland-as refered to by the many emigres to the states during the desperate years-and to add to the confusion the livery on those railcars is the exact same as the County Donegal Rly over in Ireland-lovely pix by the way-thanx also for the GO Train site TOM-a footnote-fine movie selection MON-DD1-An excellent recipe-will try it on my family/captive audience as soon as may be..may I say that as a life long musician and free thinker,the idea of the slogan "Hemp for Victory" has a certain curious charm.......ROB-full marks for the VIA power pix--I`ve got it now-Alcos have straight windows at the front,G.M`s have curved................TOM-A fine selection of drum-heads-and the London underground -oh man-from the first pic I could SMELL the place-a complete broadside !!more soon Gunneral Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: NZ 242 posts Posted by Gunneral on Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:29 PM Hi Tom and all,The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!Nick. Nice to see you survived the Irish rugger supporters invasion, enjoyed your Guildford station write up, sound a weird lot there but at least you met a friendly driver who let you at the controls.Mike. Was in with a great mass of interesting URL`s on Oregon Electric, restuarants and a nice selection of North Eastern RR pics and a vid of Lars`s favourite subject "Domes".Lars. Thanks for your kind words, it was a very sad occasion to have to read your final post and farewell, it`s been a real pleasure to have met you and to be associated with you here at "Our" place, your very interesting covAHS from the Larsman Mobile and all your repartee that you`ve shared so freely has made this place such a great delight to be a part of in this old world of ours`, I salute you and thank you for all the enjoyment you have given me over the time that i`ve known you. You will be greatly missed and that`s a FACT!CM3. Was in with his usual interesting info.Pete. Many thanks for your latest set of Shildon parade pics, a great lot of classic steam locos` indeed, and nice pics of that Royal British Legion trip behind Princess Elizabeth, and the nice Deltic pic, all "keepers"! Was a member of the Legion until migrating in 1969. Parsons are still operating as C A Parsons & Co at Heaton, Newcastle, they are now part of a Siemens group of companies, how things change over the years. See their is a link to the "Locomotion" museum at Shildon via the NRM site. Forgot to mention that I did watch the San Diego 7`s final, it`s nice to see ANY team put one over the SA rugby team anytime! The "Toon" are running out of time to WIN any games by the look of it!Eric. Enjoyed the nice pics and info you posted, have you been down to the Cracker Barrel yet? A neighbour of ours, who originates from Queens, NY, has family who have a winter home in Scotsdale near you, and she has seen your favourite restuarant several times when visiting there.Fergie. Nice to see you aboard again, nice Amtrak pic, go easy on that home decoration it can kind of snowball!Jan. Nice to see you again mate, that was a nice set of pics from you, back to your usual self I can see.Dan. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.Rob. Here in NZ you can`t get much further away from civilisation as you can down here, but it does have it`s compensations most of the time. Nice to see that you are taking over the Bar managers stint from Lars, hope you will have a smooth transition, enjoyed all your info and pics and chats.Tom. Totally agree with you that 15 is far too young to hold a drivers licence, but it`s been on the statute books here since licences were first issued, at the moment their is a campaign to raise it to 17 because of a "boy racer" problem here, but the very vocal farming lobby is against it! I totally support all of your comments about Lars`s place here, he will be greatly missed for sure. It is very fitting siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:26 PM This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!Wasn't going to Post today UNLESS someone came "in" - 'n there was Pete! With our numbers dwindling along with Saturday unreliability it makes no sense to Post into the oblivion. I mean what's the point of providing <freebies> for those who never speak <geesh> Anyway - a moot point, as we've been "saved" for this day . . . I surely "transgressed" 'n apologies offered to Wolfman Pete! <mea culpa> Those fotos of the Royal British Legion <Friday's Pix> are MOST special treasures! Many thanx for sharing 'em with us. Strong sentiments for your heritage - both rail 'n men in uniform. Five to you, Sir Pete! Noted this day's offering as well - just hope it doesn't get "lost" in the Ether as Saturday's are just not "interaction days" anymore. But, many thanx for stopping by . . . will get to specifics in my next round of ACKNOWLEDGMENTS! Did notice your "old MacDonald's" loco - E-I-E-I-O! Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O And on that farm he had a (animal), E-I-E-I-O With a (animal noise twice) here and a (animal noise twice) there Here a (animal noise), there a (animal noise), everywhere a (animal noise twice) Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Found a couple of back-to-back Posts from our former "bookends" here at the bar 'n thought them very approrpiate for this ENCORE! Saturday . . . Both from the Original Thread, Page 400 - Posted on 25 Sep 2006 . . . G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past! Overland FlyerFrom Wikipedia, the free encylopedia "Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.Until the next time! Lars - and - Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!Hope all enjoyed a restful weekend! All is well here in the mountain retreat as we begin preparations for another getaway. Canadian Thanksgiving is not that far off and we will be heading off to Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:21 PM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your ‘famous' coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.TOM Thanks for the kind words on my post and photos, yes very pleased with the scanner it must be hardy as it as lasted so far (touch wood) with my tender touch.I don't think the warrant in Mountain Village will mean much to VITO as the chief of police there is bound to be a relation of his.I did not realize about the dome of the Capitol was on top of the dome car until I got it back from developing.It is funny, it is Fish & Chips but it becomes a Fish & Chip dinner or just a Fish supper in Scotland.HELGA thought it was a contest between Nick and you to see who would take her out on Valentine's Day.I wonder who are the two who could cause problems to our new manager. Great idea of Eric to have Lars as permanent Senior ManagerNICK I hope they continue brewing at Felinfoel if it has been bought, there has been too many good breweries closed in the UK lately.Thanks for the info on the Irish Hudswell Clark locos. The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland are running a steam special through Wexford as part of their International Railtour this year. On Friday May 9th No 186 is hauling the heritage set from Dublin to Waterford via Rosslare and on Sunday May 11th No 4 is returning on the same route with the Mk 2 set. I remember seeing the ex Metro-Vickers GM re-engined diesel 001 in the sidings at Waterford on one railtour of Ireland I will have to sort out some more photos from Ireland.Thanks for the offer of Tommy.ROB I'll have a pint later with you if I may.Glad you enjoyed the photos. The headboard on 6201 is carried by most of the steam specials running today carrying the name of the special, on some steam tours the first prize of the on board raffle is the headboard the locomotive carried. The headboards are in the style carried by named trains in the BR era, which I believe is the style of the LNER named trains pre war; perhaps Allan could help with that.There was a different style of headboard with the ex LMS lines Royal Scot and Caledonian name trains having a larger longer and thinner shape. The Southern Region had a more oblong shape that was worn lower down on the locomotives front.Headboards were carried for a short while when the diesels first started taking over the main line services but I believe they disappeared in the mid 1960s.This Headboard was used for a while on diesels on the Flying Scotsman train from London King's Cross to Edinburgh.ERIC Many thanks for the Altoona Railroad works, it must have been a task to walk from one end to the other. I noticed the rather unusual circular building of the Locomotive Finishing Shop.Yes the cars were not there when I passed the next day, although I guess they would have to be moved if the local freight wanted to use the leg of the wye the cars were on.I recall traveling up one of the grades in Northern England behind an electric locomotive on a very damp day and the driver was using all his skill to control the electric from slipping at speed, you could hear the different sound from the motors as they lost traction on the greasy rails.The date of the Royal British Legion tour was on Monday July 10th 1989. I must have taken a day's holiday from work to go on the special. For this weeks Shildon photos.LNER 4-4-0 class D49 built1927, BR No 62712 'Morayshire' a Scottish Railway Preservation Society engine. LMS Stanier Pacific 46201' Princess Elizabeth built 1933 currently running main line specials today.Southern Railway 4-6-0 class S15 Maunsell design built 1936 No 30841 currently on the North York Moors Railway.LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 44767, out of the 842 class 5s built this was the only example with Stephenson link valve gear Built 1947. 44767 is on the NYMR. LNER Class V2 2-6-2 No 60800 'Green Arrow built 1936 she is the first loco of the class and the only survivor of an original class of 184 locos.A National Railway Museum engine.LMS class 8F 2-8-0 built 1935,some of these frieght locos saw service overseas in World War II. This loco saw sevice in Persia it is now on the Severn Valley Railway. GWR Modified Hall 4-6-0 class 6960 'Raveningham Hall' built 1944 a Hawksworth developement of the 1924 Collett Hall class. Not sure which railway she is on a the present, was on the SVR at the time of the photo. siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:51 AM <personal foto>This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!The weekend has arrived ‘n with it a chance to kick back with us. Order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - select a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n fill up that coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comments from the Proprietor:The Larsman: Our SENIOR MANAGER <emeritus> said he'd give me a call once back home in NY. So, in response to those who have asked - go ahead and send him your Emails - I'll make sure he knows to check his "in box" once things get settled. As many of you already know, he indicated that he won't be on-line anytime soon. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTESTWhen will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Participants thus far:(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)Contest CLOSES Monday, Feb 18th * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *G'day Gents!Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:58 PM: Admirable of the man in Wales to actually "do" the catch-up! Some pretend, others skim - but Nick's in the group of Rat's Patoot-ers who really mean it! Of course being "behind" a week puts you into the category of living one of those ‘delays' in transmission - so, what I'm saying now is sorta like trying to communicate with someone on the dark side of La Luna. <grin>Looking forward to your "report" of the Valentine's Nite Massacre at the Second Class Saloon! <grin>Many thanx for the libations - chat ‘n good CHEER! Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:55 PM: Regarding the NHL outdoor games - it would be a travesty to NOT have a Canadiens-Maple Leafs game. That above all others would surely pack the venue. Now I can "see" the Senators-Maple Leafs ‘n Senators-Canadiens face-offs in an outdoor environment, but when it comes to the history ‘n lore of the NHL - bring on Montréal-Toronto! Yes, we had quite a Friday at the Saloon by the Siding. Amazing how just the return of ONE guy can make such a difference <Jan> - then when the crew shows up, well it makes for a good day! I should WARN you, now that you're the Manager - there are two guys who are ALWAYS lurking in the shadows, waiting to pull a stunt on ya. So just watch your back, Mate. These two delight in making trouble - spelled with a capital "T," right here in Mentor City! You may be "on" to something with your supposition regarding Vito 'n the Second Class Saloon - BUT, he&# Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:55 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Hello Leon, an early Saturday morning breakfast, please. French toast with all that extra stuff including powder sugar and a large, spiked, OJ! Friday came and went and now it's Saturday! Fergie – Congratulations for finsihing the 2 week Rescue Specialist course! And good luck with the Super MESS!Tom – I am not snorting any stuff! I am enjoying my retirement! Too bad I promised to work part time this year. Sent the mail again. Something went wrong last night. Mike – I agree with what you wrote about Manager Lars reading this. Thank you for the links! Interesting dome car video!Best luck and thank you to your nephew-in-law!JanOlov – Long time, no see! Welcome back! No, it is Tom’s layout and trains! The Greatest Show on Earth? It must have been Ringling Brothers Circus. The largets rail shop complex in the world was PRR’s Altoona Railroad Works!Shown with permission from Wikipedia. The photo of those DMUs was taken in Lidköping.DL – You have a nice weekend too!!CM3 – The shot of the FL9 was taken along the line between New York and Albany. Pete – So you had the dome cars in Jefferson City?! Just for a day, or what? IRM has a lot of interesting stuff. You are correct about older electrics. Not that much was automated or limited/controlled by computers. Nice photos! I like the paint scheme on #6201! What year was that special? Nick – Hope you got rid of the cold before it really started! Have another glass of the special rum, it’s on me!Rob – I am sure you are right about Vito buying the Second Class Saloon! He’ll find a way to do it. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:55 PM Good evening Leon I see that you've had the less busy shift for the day but that's okay between you and Boris the bar room looks wells wept and Boris and the umm Girls have got the pans and the kitchen sparkling.Nice to see all the critters are tucked in for the night all in all a good day yes Boris you can have a small PPF.So since all is happy i think I'll have a nice Guiness and here's some for a round for the morning partakers Tom-G'day sir looks like a nice busy day not so much tonight but hey most of the cast 'o' characters 'n' customers were in today so alls good Looks like the NHL is going to make the outside games a yearly tradition on New years day,going to have to stay to the colder cities.Chicago should be a good choice , I'd still like to see an outdoor one in Montreal with Toronto and Montreal but that wouldn't sell well SOTB so likely won't happen at least not as long as the league is rulled by the suits in NYC I think that Vito will find a way around buying the second class,he'll likely get one of his boyz or a "second cousin" to but it.He'll probably pay off teh judge in the mountain village at any rate so I don't think he's to worried about his persona non grata status.Pete-Yup I'll join you in the patoot room,I think we are sadly mistaken in our move to the cheaper,once all the heavy industry is gone I think we will be over a barrel I liked the pictures,nice add on decorations onn that loco,was it common for them to change those smokebox decorations or was that just a speacial made piece for that particular trip Jan-Wow visual overload I don't think I can answer all your queries but I'll give a couple of them a go.yes VIA had at least two other paint schemes beyond teh old Clasic yellow and blue which was the first paint scheme. A grey with yellow nnose and blue yellow stripes in severl configurations has been teh norm the last almost twenty years. the first P42's brought in the new scheme with the teal green/blue and yellow body matching the renasance cars. The F40's are now being painted in a similar paint scheme as they go in for rebuilds.If the pictures you are refering to are the soldiers that was a war of 1812 re-enactment at Fort George in Niagara on The Lake.The red cross pictures are the old railimages photo's I had looks like they've folded their tents so I'll have to rescan those one's onto my photobucket accountCM3-I'm guessing that yes the NHL will likely mess up the outdoor tradition somehow,done properly it should be a boon for them but I guess time will tell.Eric-Nice Amtrak shot, a real locomotive was leading that train Nick-I'm glad that you survived the shindig at the Second Class,it was touch and go there for a while.Rob nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, February 15, 2008 7:58 PM Well gentlemen all-how are we this fine crisp day ?-Leon,it`s friday night and I am most definately in the chair-a close relative has been waiting on some test results which came back clear today so a little quiet satisfaction is in order I feel-Therefore I will have a large glass of the special rum-as I also have a stinker of a cold perhaps another large rum might help .??-and better have a bottle of Starop as well please old thing,just to wash it down with........Right then chaps-just been backtracking and worked out I havn`t interacted since last sat.,so will attempt a bullet-point type catch up:-SAT:-TOM-Yes indeed mate,the BNSF surely echoes the G.N livery-although for my money the BNSF always looks a touch `brash`-possibly the greater amount of orange-my Brit sensbilities are attuned to more muted combinations.....BTW-you do me too much credit R.E-FP40/59-I didn`t spot the difference-merely suggested the possibility,based on something I`d read--Oh Mr Porter:-I do indeed recall this gem at the Emporium but I`ve always felt that this film,with it`s many small sets,close camera work and the whole atmosphere that B&W film creates works best on a small screen for a select audience...ROB-Nice pix of work vehicles & #8-that first one -I`m sure The Manx Electric Rly on the Isle of Man have a very similar unit -will have a look about...LARS-Not sure if you will read this or not mate-Glad I made it back to shake hands and raise a glass before you hit the road ........touched by your words-my door is always open to friends,would be delighted to take you to some gigs,ride the few local trains and turn you onto the local scenery-along with the rest of the crew....Drop us all a line as soon as you are settled and we can have a housewarming party for you..PETE-Yes indeed -the Double Dragon is the flagship brew of the Felinfoel brewery located in the eponymous village just outside Llanelli-although that said,it`s entirely possible that the place has been bought out-I have a ghost of a memory here..........................hmmmmm-nice work with the heads up & pix of the S&D 7f`s-looked really well with those coaches ...Irish matters:-I finally hd to give up and check the inter-web thingy for those Swilly engines -they were from Hudswell-Clarke and were (I think) poss. the only narrow gauge tender locos to run in Ireland--Rosslare services-Last time I was there,the only `spot` I had on that section was the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which was a 4 car DMU,identical to the units I had seen over in Co. Kerry earlier that week,arriving at Waterford-there were also a pair of very scruffy G.M units in black/orange down on the quay tracks......U-Tube-don`t be deceived dear boy-what you hear isn`t always what happened-in this instance it was,although not the `Blair witch` hand held camera thing that appears-the music was all being recorded onto a hard drive via a 16 track desk (you can see some of the mics in the video) and was synched in to the film afterwards (and is still about 1/64th of a beat out-irritates me every time I see itLive at Leeds-now theres an album-how could they go from a standing start straight into "Heaven & Hell" like that ??-will check with the boys -I`m sure there must be some way I can send you the `Tommy` show-might have to do it in bits.....Right -thats last sat.-bear with me here-it might take a while.................... siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 3:11 PM G'day Gents!A far busier Friday than I would've imagined - has kept Ruth ‘n Boris busy, which all means <KaChing> <KaChing> for Tilla ‘n Cashinator! <grin>Some catch-ups in the Acknowledgment Department . . .Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Mike (wanswheel) at 10:29 AM: Never knew of a guy who lost a million - but now I do! I KNOW what Lars is doing ‘n where's he's doing it at . . . the absolute last thing on his mind or within his ability to handle is the internet. Suggest you apply for a loan from the Mentor Village Second National Bank ‘n Not-so-Trust <Vito the Hit, President>. <uh oh>Enjoyed the dome link - very much! 4.0 "find" ‘n a <keeper> for "Our" Place! [tup ] Round appreciated! Page 184 - Jan (JanOlov) at 11:49 AM: A "voice" from the past <well not that far back . . .> as our Resident Swede in Scotland has returned with a Herculian effort of a catch-up acknowledgment. <triple wow> Takes quite a bit of time to go thru ‘em all . . . Answers: Yes - no - maybe - uhhhhhhh - don't know ‘n <geesh> Entry for the Contest noted - and I'm assuming you selected me as the person to get to Page 200. So you're "in" . . . .No <tweetable> OH-FEN-SEZ, however <tweekable> applies to the inflatables in Boris' Shed. <uh oh> <grin>Thoroughly AMAZED that you missed the most notable of news . . . <quadruple geesh>Thanx for Post, chock full ‘o fotos - generosities too! Page 184 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:29 PM: In for a penny . . . what's the diff It's the thought that counts! Great knowing you're still with us . . . bon weekend, Mate! [tup ]tup]Page 185 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:11 PM: A most profound "Thought for the day," wish I had said something like that "back in the day." <grin> There were so many opportunities . . . Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the bar in spite of the heavy work load . . . means a lot - as do the quarters ‘n ROUND! Relaxing weekend to ya, Mate! Page 185 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:56 PM: An excellent <I3 > Post from the guy who knows HOW! Splendid fotos with descriptions - getting even better since your new scanner arrived! No stopping you now, eh Vito CAN'T buy the Second Class Saloon. There's a warrant out for him in that township - which isn't Mentor Village - it's Mountain Village ‘n he's persona non grata there. Translation: they don't like him. <uh oh>Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Have a great weekend . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Some one-liners:Pete: Love that "dome on dome" shot! Why is it "Fish & Chip" as opposed to chipS Don't get it . . . but at least you DO! <grin>Email received ‘n responded to . . . Thanx!Still baffled about your so-called "Contest" that you now say Nick has won. What in the world are you SMOKING <geesh> Rob: Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:56 PM Hi Tom and all.A pint of Bathams please RUTH.ROB Good words for Lars.It would have been good if that old SW had been running at the time, it really looked in great condition though.It is a very sad and a sobering thought about all the heavy industry that as disappeared. I think the worst thing is that the amount of money it would cost to re build, say a large steelworks, shipyard or engineering factory, would be tremendous and where they would get the skilled men from God only knows. I think we will pay for this in the future. Off to the Rat's Patoot Room for me for a while.So H&H had another great night out, what with their visit and the Darts Matches the poor old Second Class Saloon will never be the same, if Vito does buy it we will have to look out though.ERIC The dome cars were on the Wye that connects the main line to a branch that runs alongside Industrial Drive to serve some factories and warehouses here in Jefferson City. The bride spotted the cars as she came home from work; so we went down to see them. I believe the train was here to promote rail safety on grade crossings but was not open to the public. Heritage units did not haul the train though.I mis-read about the Interurban Sleeping Car at the IRM, they have got some really good exhibits there.I guess with the older electric locomotives the driver had a good deal more control over the acceleration than with the newer locos with their traction control.Great photo of the Amtrak GMD # 489.FERGIE I'll join in the toast to Lars if I may, good luck with the house painting.MIKE Many Thanks for the great video on U-Tube on the Dome Cars, really great photography with even some classic shots in color. Good piece on the Train of Tomorrow as well. I am sure Lars will enjoy it. JAN Good to see you in, sorry to hear that things are still very busy at your work.Glad you enjoyed my photos and posts. Really enjoyed the photos maps and posters, thanks for sharingDL I will look forward to your post, hopefully the work will ease a bit for you soon.CM3 Thanks for the info on the FP9 in Erics photo. Hope you enjoy the photos of one of the LMS's finest later in the post.TOM A while back we were talking about a steam hauled special train that was run to help raise funds for the Royal British Legion. I was lucky enough to be able to travel on the train. The steam locomotive was Sir William A. Stanier's Princess Royal class Pacific No 6201 Princess Elizabeth. The train ran along the North Wales coast with the steam locomotive running from Crewe to Holyhead and back.A photo of 6201 carrying the special headboard. These two photos were taken at Llandudno Junction, about half way along the coast line where 6201 took water. The first was on the outward run and this next one on the return.Before the special left Crewe the original destinctive nameplate 'British Legion' was on display the other nameplate s at the National Railway Museum at York. The locomotive that carried the name was Stanier's re-build of the high pressure compound locomotive Fury.It was placed in the Royal Scot class and numbered 46170 The rest of the Royal Scots were rebuilt the same as 46170. Well Ruth a round please and the Steak and Fries if H&H are fit enough to make itPete. coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:11 PM Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Here's my thought for the day. "If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else panics, you obviously don't appreciate the gravity of the situation." Just a short visit today as we started REAL early this a.m. Pete was by with comments and pictures.Rob - Another outdoor game? Too much, too soon, IMHO - NHL has never figured out this "marketing thing." Anyway, I'll take the Redwings by at least three goals.Eric - Nice shot of a r/b FL9. My first thought was that it might be train 449, but it may be 49 instead, given the cars. FL9s did not appear in Boston too often in later years although they were a fixture there when I was a pup. What's throwing me a little in the picture is the terrain, although there is some that looks like it between New York and Albany.DL and JanOlov were both in as well. OSP - Tough slot to fill, for sure - You put together a thoughtful tribute to the Larsman; good work, sir!Well. Better clean up (and put away) the equipment so we'll be ready for next time.Have a good weekend.Work safe DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:29 PM Hello Tom and all I'll have a beer and a round for the house, plus check the menu.Been one heck of a week here busy wise - hence not been in so just catch up looking at the mo - just to call in to say hi to all and read through the pics etc - hopefully more time soon. Our place certainly not forgotten!Have a good week endDL JanOlov Member sinceDecember 2001 From: GB 376 posts Posted by JanOlov on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:49 AM Salutations Tom and fellow Bar enthusiasts.... I hope that all with all and everybody here....May I have an extra cold Guinness please and a Laphroaig...? Work has been unussually busy this time of year so I DO apologise for my AWOL...I'll take it that it's just for me to grab the cleaning materiel and start on the brass, spitoons, light fixtures and everything else...$$$$, $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad train No. 4, the Pioneer Limited, passes near Deerfield, Illinois on June 22, 1946.siberianmo 01-29-2008, 8:29 PM: 3,500th reply...!? Woohooo! I totally missed that..! Sorry about that....THAT is some beautiful SP heralds...! Classy....!MopacBarrettTunnel 01-29-2008, 9:38 PM: Tell me about it....Been travelling so much on the "Beer Line", that they decided to give me a special ticket....Great pics...!pwolfe 01-29-2008, 10:00: BR diesleshave their unique looks, that's for sure, but WHAT is that thing on the nose??Another great set of pics..!EricX2000 01-30-2008, 1:20 AM: True indeed mate, cars and trains and what not that was designed back then, some of them still look modern today....Not to mention this lovely lassie, great pics!Second No. 2, the Empire Builder glides through Summit, Montana on August 5, 1938. siberianmo 01-30-2008, 12:30 PM: What is that CN machine...a diesel?siberianmo 01-30-2008, 3:32 PM: GREAT post...!Da Larsman 01-30-2008, 5:20 PM: Never get tired of your covers....WP=tasty..!wanswheel 01-30-2008, 9:46 PM: Great post and links..!A Northern Pacific train travels over Bozeman Pass, June 1939.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 3:43 AM: Imformative post indeed...I've always wondered about the signals etc put up at the front of the locomotives here on the islands...EricX2000 01-31-2008, 5:50 AM: Is that your machines and layout Eric?trolleyboy 01-31-2008, 2:37 PM: Is there any of those great old RS diesles still in use in Canada, museums or shortlines etc.?? siberianmo 01-31-2008, 4:28 PM: Now we're talking real trolleys here....great pics!Map of Northern Pacific's route circa 1900.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 8:51 PM: So the locomotives in these fine pics are American built then?EricX2000 02-01-2008, 1:11 AM: Who was that had that train The Greatest Show On Earth??trolleyboy 02-01-2008, 3:15 AM: NICE pics of those locos TB...DL&W and Erie-Lackawanna, eh? coalminer3 02-01-2008, 3:58 PM: Great post mate!<<<<<<------ Having a short break here------>>>>>>The Southern Pacific Company's Bay City ferry plies the waters of San Francisco Bay in the late 19th century.DL - UK 02-01-2008, 6:27 PM: Trying my very best, even though when I write this one, I'm totally knackered...people off sick and on holiday's and short staffed that still nothing has been done about..... Tom and you guys deserve that much when I'm gone for a week or two, to know that I'm still thinking about you all....but 24 hours isn't enough hours for a day...siberianmo 02-01-2008, 8:50 PM: Timeless and classic railroad ads.....YUMMY!!More please!pwolfe 02-02-2008, 5:00 PM: Great post with some niiiice pics...!siberianmo 02-02-2008, 8:44 PM: Woow! Some really colorful passenger cars....Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD F3 #881A hauling a 4-car passenger train. Photographed at Mitchell, Illinois, June 30, 1951. This is an early F3 with Type I side panels. It is fitted with a steam generator for passenger-car heating, a freight pilot, and only a single headlight.trolleyboy 02-03-2008, 1:53 AM and 02-03-2008, 2:00 AM: Darn...! I missed the pics! Only wee red crosses now.EricX2000 02-03-2008, 6:20 AM: Interesting pics indeed!trolleyboy 02-04-2008, 3:54 AM: Interesting pics, what are they doing and where AND why?DL - UK 02-04-2008, 6:17 PM: Excellent post!1884 map of the Pennsylvania, Reading and Lehigh Valley RailroadsDD1 02-04-2008, 6:24 PM: Great post!< All the best! Jan wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Friday, February 15, 2008 10:29 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseGood old Lars. He puts so much energy into everything he does. Came in loaded for bear and true to character went out with a bang. One thing for certain though, he's going to continue to monitor the thread. Betcha a million bucks he's reading this right now. Hi Lars. You haven't been gone long enough for me to miss you yet but Tom seems to kind of got the blues already. Take your time, but hurry back. By the way, thank you for supporting the troops with the ribbon in your signature line. One of them is my nephew-in-law, married to my niece, serving in Iraq with the Maryland National Guard. They got little kids who can't quite figure out where Daddy disappeared to. Here's a video clip about Domeshttp://www.chinaconcepts.net/video/domecarmagic01op.jpghttp://youtube.com/watch?v=2baVBWMJ0OsMike siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 6:49 AM <personal foto> Friday's GrinReason "things" happen!Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are. G'day Gents!Not much to say - you know the "drill" . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST Participants thus far: (1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)CONTEST closes on Monday . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Thursday - Feb 14th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:46 AM: Adieu, mon ami! Page 184 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:58 PM.Page 184 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM.Page 184 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:58 PM.Friday - Feb 15th: Page 184 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:43 A.M. Page 184 - Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:13 AM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Fergmiester Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Out on the Briny Ocean Tossed 4,240 posts Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:13 AM Good Morning Captain Tom and Sundry!I'll have a Western to go please and thanksLarsman... What can I say... Though short our relationship I have noticed you have been a major contributor in this here fine establishment and I know your absence will have a major impact. So sir my hat is off to you! And a hefty round of Kieth's to all so we may raise a toast in your honour.Well this is exam day for me as I finish up my 2 week Rescue Specialist course which will free up a whole lotta time for ... dare I say it... house painting #%$&^ I hate to paint!!!Anyway after studying the body's circulatory system yet again I am now wondering (once again) on how I can re-arrange the the MESS. If I do so it will no longer be the MESS it will be the Super MESS!And Finally put me down for March 21st and I believe it to be our beloved Capt'n Tom who will hit our Milestone.Later AllFergie http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959 If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007 EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:43 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, a number 5 Special Dual Double Combo and a cold Keith's, please! Round for the house!Some things to study and discuss here tonight.Tom – I’ve had about 30 different cars in my life and my very favorite was my Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1989. It had everything!!! I had it for two years, but sold it when I moved here. Hope you had a wonderful date with Helga!!! Did she come along to Oslo? Did you tell Manager Lars? This is getting more and more interesting!Thanks for re-posting Lars’ old post with the article on Dome cars and their history! I can understand that the dome area was regarded a non-revenue area. Interesting!Email received and responded to.Mike – ‘56 Dodge hardtop were very good looking cars! My very favorite when it comes to good looking cars is De Soto hardtop 1958!!! Thanks for all links! Older photos of regular trains and Valentine railroad ads! Lars – It is a sad day here at the bar today! No matter what, you will always be the Manager! And I hope we will see you every now and then even in the future!A bunch of interesting books, as usual! I’ll pick Southern Pacific Historic Diesels. I think it says volume 6. It is sad to read the second part of your post but I understand that you have to do what you have to do. Thanks for the nice words! We will do our best to train the new Manager, but you will always be the Senior Manager of this place! I am sure Rob will do a great job though. Looking forward to see you as often as possible in the future! My best to you and the Mrs! Ruth just told me that she has asked for a raise so she can fly out to the east coast more often! I wonder why? Hmmm. By the way, you have to keep an eye on the number of pages and post when page #200 is due, so I’ll win the contest. CM3 – Interesting driving? I guess that is one way to say it. One inch of snow is not bad though. Detcord? I’ll remember to ask about it in May. Pete – As I mentioned yesterday, IRM has one interurban sleeping car. I think that is the only one left. The acceleration demonstrations with the Rc1 was fun. It is amazing how fast those locomotives can accelerate! Nice photos! Where did you take the picture of the UP Dome car?Rob – Seems like you had a good time at the Second Class Saloon! I heard that Vito would like to hire Manager Lars as the new Second Class Saloon manager! Heading for Albany, NY.Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:58 PM Good evening Leon my good man.Nice heart shaped bowtie and matching cumberbun a gift from Hilda you say,your a luckey man she isn't always that giving. I think I'll sample some of Copperkettles fish n chips what the heck some mushy peas as well Boris likes it when I give mine to him,I think a nice Keith's to wash it down with. Here's some extra for a round for the rest of Daboyz as well First off a hearty good bye and god speed for the Larsman and his family. I can only barely fill his slippers, never his shoes. It's been an honour to interact with you,I wish we coulda met,might still Anytime that you have for us will be well welcomed and anticipated when you can. A five salute for you da bars greatest customer.Tom-What can I say you were able to manouver outta the date,howeevr as Pete has noticed the girls think they are more sought after now than ever. I just have to say that the second calss will no longer be the same,not a dry eye left in that house ( Helga's new perfume O'de pepper spray )Not many left standing a swell. typical for the girls they satyrted and finished a brawl,even Mountain man Mike was in tears. I had lost sight of Nick in the melee last I saw him he was flying towards the fire exit amidst the debris and tangled limbs,still clutching his pint which was amazingly unspilled Looks as though Vito and his Boyz may be buying and renovating the second class,that's the word in the alley anyway. I'm glad to see Lar's dome post again today a fitting tribute to he who loves the domes the most In an completely unrealated note,I heard today that teh NHL is contemplating another big outdoor game next year. The odd's on favourite is to put ice into Soldier field in Chicago and teh game wll be the Blackhawks and the Redwings , won't that be a sight if it happens.Pete-I think you will find alot of those old SW's had those leftover from steam days style headlights with the loco number on them. theer was that timeframe when the railroad pundits deemed that switchers were the only viable use for diesel engines ,times do change.As rough as that unit looks those old 567 series diesels were tough nuts to crack,properly maintained they will out last the locomotive. I can't imagine what Liverpool and the other big shipbuilding centre in the UK must be like now.Amazing as to how many of those old firms are gone or drastically smaller scale than they were not sixty years ago. When you think that in the earlier part of the century those slipways were turning out Battleships and ocean liners faster than they could be crewed. I suppose alot like parts of Pennsylvania where the steel mills have come and gone,at one point with those industries it ws unthinkable that they could fail and fade away.great dome shot BTW Eric-Thanks for the info on those Swedish state railway electrics,not at all supprising the speed at which they do pick up speed. Even operating our cars at the museum it's amazing as to how fast they get up and go.Mike-Some good and on side urls as always Cm3-What ho, isn't just neat how Mike was able to pull those old baseball urls out of his magic bag of urls.Rob « First«891011121314»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Hello Tom and all in
I'll have a pint of Harvey's please. I enjoyed that link to the Eugene electric railway station - very informative. Thanks for posting.
Well, now I've done the catch up I can see that Lars left as he lived. A great play out of covers and a typical post - I can't say more than others have done - he'll be missed by me!
Eric - I enjoyed those pics of the Havelock shops - and the family connection as nice to hear about too. Also liked the pics of the DMUs from Sweden that you posted - which others have also complemented you on.
As you've already established the Jubilee Line of London underground was named for the silver Jubilee of the Queen - and the lines colour on the map is a kind of silver. It must have been pretty new when you rode it in 1979 - as you will have seen it was extensively extended in the late 1990s and now serves a larger area of south and east London. I recall that it was originally going to be called by another name - Fleet Line I think - but I can't recall if that is correct and if so why that was the name.
Mike - some great pic displays - esp liked GM&O colour shots - reminds me of a film I enjoy - In the Heat of the Night - great GM&O scenes in that picture.
Our Home Railways - looks like a book that covers the early days of UK railways.
Jan - epic catch up - with great illustrations! What more is there to say.
Rob - again - nice illustrated posts - esp a few days back with some vintage Via equipment - enjoyed the pics - and the comment!
Ron - nice to hear more details on your VW K-G - what was your MG? I would think given the vintage perhaps it was a TF? The last of the classic designed MGs some would say. Talking of car ownership the idea that the MG brand - for that is all it now is - is in Chinese ownership really is a turn up for the books (never mind who owns Jaguar and Land Rover - with their production plants in continuous operation I think the culture of the vehicle is continued - hard to claim that is the case with MG). Their factory in Abingdon near Oxford was wiped off the face of the map very early in the 1980s after MGB construction was terminated.
To answer your question - I've never been a spam fan myself - seem to recall it got served cold at school with salad!
Nick - your story of time on Guildford (sounds a bit high security....) reminded me of a time as a young teenager at the end of London Bridge station. EMU driver pulled up and leaned out of his cab to talk to me (this was on the through platforms) - asked what I'd seen that day and then showed me his own note book with the numbers listed of every unit he'd driven over the years! A fleeting conversation - but one that has stuck with me for 20+ years since!
Allan - enjoyed your recent posts mate. Thanks for posting the Westoe link. Allotment sheds - you're talking about Pot Leeks are you not? The tradition has transferred to round here - esp around Mansfield where lots of Geordies came to work the collieries after the NE pits shut down and the NCB transferred them to the new pits being opened up here - now all closed of course. Bringing with them the ‘pit yacker' language you probably know far better than me!
Pete - going back to your earlier query I don't know much either about coach scrapping - I bet that was at BR works and also contractors - I expect there was less to salvage so done very quickly - (wooden stock being burned out probably to get to metal quickly). Earlier generations sometime made it to build holiday homes by the seaside in various places - some still exist - I think you are right about the LNER buffets being used on Harwich inter regional services in the last days (I've only seen pictures) - but your pic of a 156 DMU reminded me that I went on one of these in about 1990 to Harwich - it originated in Liverpool - and this must have been the final version of this service - does not run through any longer as the services on that route go to Norwich. I was heading for Amsterdam via the Hoek of Holland and a sea crossing by ferry of course.
I agree with your verdict on the 156 class DMUs - they have good windows to seat alignment and are more comfortable than 158s - with no air conditioning you can open the windows to drown out the noise of the mobile phone / i-pod nuisance too!
Coalminer3 mentions the book on safety that was doing the rounds - I've been reading the first part of Tom Rolt (the author) autobiography (Landscape with Machines) - this covers his time as an apprentice at Kerr Stuart's loco works and other matters. It also mentions the Shropshire and Montgomery Light Railway - so I was looking something up about that and I think regulars will enjoy this link:
http://www.hfstephens-museum.org.uk/pages/topics/potty/potty1.htm
Coupe of good quotes:
"I particularly enjoyed this work when the Rattlers broke down away from Kinnerley. A platelayers' trolley was acquired, and Sid and myself pumped our way to the scene of the disaster. This seemed to often take place when they were doing a run to Criggion, and failure usually took place in the vicinity of the Tontine Hotel!"
And concerning repairs in their antiquated workshop (this was the late 1920s):
"To use a naval expression, this was all done "handraulic" hacksaw, ratchet drill and hammer and chisel."
Hand-raulic - I like it!!
Cheers
DL
PS - Pete - you are in early doors? Fancy a pint on me?
Hi Tom and all.
A cup of your coffee and an egg and bacon sarnie please RUTH.
TOM It was a privilege to travel on that train in Support of the Royal British Legion, I think they had requested the Princess Elizabeth locomotive to haul the train and I if I remember right it was the first Princess class to work over the North Wales Coast Line since BR steam days.
Yes MacDonald's Farm was a very popular song when I was a kid in England, I wonder if the kids of today still know it.
Great choice of Encores from Lars and BK we were very fortunate to have those two at the bar.
I have heard the UP called the Overland Route but had forgotten it took the name from the Overland Mail Company later taken over by Wells Fargo.
Not only did Sir Martin Frobisher have a bay in Canada named after him but two steam locomotives as well. Southern Railway Lord Nelson class No.30864 and LMS Jubilee No 45640. In 1958 the SR engine worked off Bournemouth shed while the Jubilee was allocated to Carlisle (Kingmoor).
I did notice in BK's post that we were on page 400 and the replies were approaching 8,000. I just wonder what the views were then, I don't think we were getting as many views then as we do today, as you say at the top of your post, it is a pity that some of those viewing can't call in the bar if only now and then.
I see you are getting ready for St Patrick's Day; it is only a month away now.
I thought my bar tab was well under control.
Two more good films it looks like on at the Emporium this week,that I have not seen. Gettysburg seems a good action movie and Whale Rider looks a different type of film that is usually on but looks well worth watching and, of course the Stooges.
ALLAN Good words for Senior Manager Lars..
Glad you are enjoying the Shildon photos, we are getting on to the more modern types of steam locomotives.
The British Legion had a lot of clubs when I was younger, there was even one in my village, but together with the working men's clubs their number seems greatly reduced during the last couple of decades or so. I wonder how many of the working men's clubs are left in the Newcastle area nowadays, I believe there were some really large clubs in the 1960s and 70s.
I think the Rugby 7s were well received in San Diego, I just found out there is a Rugby Union team here in town.
NICK Glad to see the catching up at the bar is going well.
It will be interesting to see if there is any cavalcade or really big eventon BR to celebrate the Stockton & Darlington 200 in 2025.
I think the only time I saw Cookham Manor in steam was at Shildon. I see the Severn Valley Railway is hoping to have two Manors in steam for their Autumn Gala this year.
ROB Yes I agree the headboards did not look anywhere as good on the diesels as one the steam locomotives. Another thing that disappeared at the same time was the destination boards that were fixed above the windows on the carriages.. As well as showing the route of the train e.g. London - Glasgow on the named trains there was a board with the train name on it as well. A nice touch was the Royal Scot boards were in tartan like the headboard.
One reason the carriage boards were discontinued was the spread of the overhead electrification posing a danger to staff as they took the boards on and off.
I'm afraid the black bag goes everywhere, ask Tom.
Good reading about the Stratford shops. Those cranes must have had a large lifting capacity.
Hope you are getting on with the paper work and the ‘Admin Duties'
ERIC Yes it must be very scary to be driving when the wheels of the train just slide when you are approaching a stop. I believe that the modern units are not fitted with sanders.
What did you do when the wheels slid like that; I guess release the brakes and try agai
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A smile to begin the week!
After a night at the Opera with his wife, he was asked if he enjoyed it. He replied, "I really liked it. Even the music was good."
<A Yogi-ism!>
Blue Monday <for some> ‘n a great day <for others> - Mondays are like that! <grin> Check out our Menu Board for a <light> or <traditional> breakfast; fill up the coffee mug ‘n grab a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery case. "Second best" way to begin the week . . .
Another "Mall Holiday" here in the USA - I'll put up the title to this joint if more than a handful of citizens do ANYTHING to reflect on the meaning of this day we call President's Day. Used to be George Washington's Birthday ‘til the PC crowd took over the Congress. <barf> Well, at least CM3 Shane has the day "off" . . . <grin>
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(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)
(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)
(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)
(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)
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Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):
Sunday - Feb 17th: <all times Central standard>
Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 4:49 PM: A rare Sunday appearance by our newly anointed Manager - way to go!
Normally I don't let Boris go a-wanderin' without adult supervision! <grin> But I see he made it back with all the critters in tow . . . <grin> Anytime you want to take him, Leon ‘n the gang up to our cabin at Can-Am Gorge - go right ahead. The keys to the place are right over there . . .
We are music listeners in this Haus ‘n weekends are great for it. I try to mix it up, so Saturday we listened to the Kingston Trio - over ‘n over ‘n over. Those CDs should be worn out, but keep on playin' Then yesterday it was our "Maritime Day," really puts one in a good frame of mind, eh Youbetcha! Thanx for the names - I'll do some surfin' . . .
Last weekend was Big Band on Saturday - then Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass along with the Baja Marimba on Sunday . . . Ahhhhhh, music is good for the soul.
Just the mention of "The Keg" brings to mind one of our favorite places in Vancouver ‘n Winnipeg. Found the most wonderful restaurants while there. We've had dinner at the one in downtown Vancouver several times over the three visits to that wonderful city.
Appreciate the visit ‘n chat!
Page 185 - Ron (DD1) at 11:18 AM: <uh oh>
Page 185 - Mike (wanswheel) at 9:27 PM: And another rare visit on Sunday - this time from Not-So-Silent Mike!
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house tomorrow
Going to try to slide this monster through the mail slot. New York Central 60th Street Yard.
Great Grain Elevator The New York Times December 22, 1876
The New Structure Of The New York-Central And Hudson River Railroad Company -- One Of The Largest And Most Complete Elevators In Existence -- The Manner In Which Grain Is Stored And Graded
The new grain elevator of the New-York Central and Hudson River Railroad, at Twelfth avenue and Sixtieth street, is not only one of the largest of its class, but possesses the greatest storage capacity of any similar structure in the country. The building, which, from the outside, resembles a ship-house of the Brooklyn Navy Yard somewhat magnified, is 354 feet long by 100 feet wide, and covers nearly seven-ninths of an acre. It is constructed of brick and wood, with a heavily slated roof, and is 152 feet in height from the ground to the summit of the "lantern top," or upper story. The foundation consists of 7,000 piles, eighty feet in length, driven into the ground up to their full length. On the piles are the main timbers, 12 inches by 12, running latitudinally, these being covered with a double thickness of 6-inch planks, the tops of which are level with the surface of the river at low water. The immediate foundation consists of 32 rows of stone piers, six in each row, making 192 piers in all, each 10-1/2 feet square at the bottom and 3 feet square at the top, constructed of granite, in five courses. Upon these piers are laid the floor-beams, and upon the latter are mounted the main posts, of yellow pine, 20 feet long and 14 inches square. The walls of the ediface are 24 inches thick for the first twenty feet, and beyond that are composed of 8 inches of brick, with an inside backing of wood of equal width, making 16-inch walls. There is also an additional support in the shape of brick pilasters, 12 inches thick, distributed along the inside of the wall at intervals of 26 feet. The entire building is divided into seven floors, the ground or "track" floor being occupied by three railway tracks for the reception of grain cars, and the second, or bagging, floor consisting of an immense, low apartment, not unlike the between-decks of a ship, and crowded with heavy beams and supports for the main floor above. The third floor is occupied by the immense grain-bins, the largest of which are 80 feet high and 12 feet square, each built to contain from 1,500 to 8,000 bushels of grain. There are nearly 300 of these bins, with an aggregate storage capacity of 1,500,000 bushels. Above them is the peculiarly-shaped central story called the "lantern top," 44 feet wide and nearly 40 feet high, running the entire length of the building. This contains four floors, the first for spouts, the second for weighing hoppers, the third for a receiving house, and the fourth for the main line of shafting. On the second floor of this top story are twenty-two great weighing scales. Eleven for receiving and eleven for discharging grain, each capable of weighing a car-load at once.
The work of handling the grain is done by twenty-two large elevators, ranged in two rows of eleven each, each row occupying the interval between two tracks. The grain is raised by continuous lines of tin buckets, attached to rubber beltings, 300 feet long by 22 inches wide, which revolves at such a rate that 60,000 bushels, or rather more than 100 car-loads can be discharged in an hour. Along each elevator is a speaking-tube, through which directions can be given to the workmen at either end, and by which the work of unloading cars can be regulated to a nicety. Between the tracks are rows of iron tanks for receiving the grain from the cars, each capable of containing 1,000 bushels. The main belt by which the shafting revolves is said to be the largest in the world, being 325 feet long and 4 feet wide, and composed of seven-ply rubber of the total thickness of half an inch. Ample steam power is supplied by an engine of 500 horse power, situated at the north-eastern end of the building. An isolated chimney, of brick, 150 feet high and 15 feet square at the base, conveys the smoke to a safe distance above the slated roofs, so that the chance of a spark entering the interior of the structure is reduced almost to nothing. About six million feet of lumber, and 2,000,000 bricks have been used in the work of construction, and the entire cost of the structure, exclusive of foundation and land, is over three hundred and seventy thousand dollars. Messrs. Gill & Mansfield are the builders, and Mr. Charles Hillen, Chief Engineer of the New-York Central and Hudson River Railroad the architect. Including the cost of ground, (which is entirely made land,) the foundation of heavy piling, and the side railway tracks twenty-six in number, the cost of the whole establishment borders closely on $750,000. The ground to the eastward of the ediface, to the extent of some twenty acres, has been filled in to a depth of fifteen feet with gravel brought in daily trains from Croton, forty miles up the river.
One of the chief benefits which will accrue to the grain trade of the Metropolis from the erection of this elevator, will be the practical application of the grain grading principle so long advocated by the Produce Exchange. The building is leased by the Hudson River Railroad to Mr. Charles Whitney, by whom it is employed for the storage of grain belonging to individual members of the Exchange and others. Storage fees are paid by the owner. All the wheat, corn, oats &o., stored in the building is to be divided into different grades, each grade often comprising hundreds of thousands of bushels, the property of scores, or it may be hundreds of owners. The grain of each consignee on arrival is discharged into the general mass of its own kind and grade. When the time comes for its removal, a proportionate amount of grain of the same grade then in store is delivered, although not a particle of it may have belonged to the original consignment. By this means large stocks of carefully graded grain are kept constantly in store and are transferred from hand to hand without the complications and expense attending their storage in separate parcels. The work of examination and classification is in the hands of a Grading Committee appointed by the Produce Exchange, to inspect and classify the stock on its arrival. The building is expected to be ready for occupancy on the 20th inst. An average force of 250 workmen has been employed upon it since the last of August, and the entire superstructure has been erected within the past four months.
Mike
Hello Leon I see that you are buffing and polishing the bar for tomorrow morning. Ruth does like to see herself in the shine on the counter ( so do the rest of us )Anyway i think I'll grab a Keith's while I do some necessary paperwork,best to do it when it's quiet. ( Boris and the critters are off in the woods )I see that we have gone through more PPF already this month than last hmmm I'll need to have a word with H&H I hope that they aren't adding it to the the mushy peas again on Fish and Chip night.
Tom-Looks like a couple good ones for the Emporium this week . Loved Gettysburg !
I hope that Nick hasn't openned up about Valentines night for the reasons your thinking ,mind you gentlemen don't tell tales.
I do indeed like the old downhome music from teh Maritimes we have a fair collection iof it ourselves. personal fav's of the Bride and I are Stan Roger's,Great Big Sea ( highly recomended) ,The Barre MacNeils ,The Rankin Family,with honourable mentions to Rita MacNeiland Ashly MacIssac.
You know if tabs get too long we can always resort to Vito's collection services<uh oh >,that or do as we always do , and let Boris hold the late payers up by the ankles and shake till we're paid in full or at least we've collected the gold fillings.
Ron-Hope the comp isn't down for extended periods,not to worry we shall be here wehn your back up and running.
Eric-The Stratford were a CNR facility , it rivaled thier Pointe Ste Charles shops in Montreal in size and output.Six CB's and over 2400 visits , good lord man you need to expand your horizons try the Keg or Red Lobster once in a while
We are CLOSED on SUNDAYs
Starting TODAY at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre!
. . . February 17th thru 23rd: Gettysburg (1993) Starring: Richard Anderson, Royce D. Applegate, Tom Berenger, Bo Brinkman & Dwier Brown - and - Whale Rider (2003) Starring: Keisha Castle-Hughes, Rawiri Paratene, Vicky Haughton, Cliff Curtis & Grant Roa. SHORT: The Three Stooges - If A Body Meets A Body (1945).
Gettysburg (1993)
PLOT SUMMARY: Three days in the summer of 1863, at a place called Gettysburg. Although it received a theatrical release, this four-hour depiction of the bloody Civil War battle was shot as a made-for-television film. But no taint of cheapness or shortcuts should stick to this magnificent picture (well, except maybe for those phony-looking mustaches). Based on Michael Shaara's book The Killer Angels, this film takes a refreshingly slow, thorough approach to the intricacies of battle. In ordinary circumstances, those intricacies might seem of importance only to fans of military strategy or Civil War enthusiasts, yet in Gettysburg they come across as the very stuff of life, death, and unexpected heroism. If the film has a problem, it's that it climaxes too early: the first long segment, detailing the struggle of a "civilian soldier," Union Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (Jeff Daniels), to hold his ground against long odds, is an enthralling piece of moviemaking. Daniels, in a heartbreaking performance, does his best film work. Other cast members include Tom Berenger, Sam Elliott, and Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee. Richard Jordan, in his final role, gives a powerhouse performance as Confederate general Lewis A. Armistead. Oh, and you can also try to spot Ted Turner, whose company produced the film, as a Confederate soldier. Writer-director Ronald F. Maxwell seems inspired by the gravity of the battle; long as it is, every moment of Gettysburg is informed by a nobility of purpose. --Robert Horton
Three days in the summer of 1863, at a place called Gettysburg. Although it received a theatrical release, this four-hour depiction of the bloody Civil War battle was shot as a made-for-television film. But no taint of cheapness or shortcuts should stick to this magnificent picture (well, except maybe for those phony-looking mustaches). Based on Michael Shaara's book The Killer Angels, this film takes a refreshingly slow, thorough approach to the intricacies of battle. In ordinary circumstances, those intricacies might seem of importance only to fans of military strategy or Civil War enthusiasts, yet in Gettysburg they come across as the very stuff of life, death, and unexpected heroism. If the film has a problem, it's that it climaxes too early: the first long segment, detailing the struggle of a "civilian soldier," Union Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (Jeff Daniels), to hold his ground against long odds, is an enthralling piece of moviemaking. Daniels, in a heartbreaking performance, does his best film work. Other cast members include Tom Berenger, Sam Elliott, and Martin Sheen as Robert E. Lee. Richard Jordan, in his final role, gives a powerhouse performance as Confederate general Lewis A. Armistead. Oh, and you can also try to spot Ted Turner, whose company produced the film, as a Confederate soldier. Writer-director Ronald F. Maxwell seems inspired by the gravity of the battle; long as it is, every moment of Gettysburg is informed by a nobility of purpose. --Robert Horton
Whale Rider (2003)
PLOT SUMMARY: One of the most charming and critically acclaimed films of 2003, the New Zealand hit Whale Rider effectively combines Maori tribal tradition with the timely "girl power" of a vibrant new millennium. Despite the discouragement of her gruff and disapproving grandfather (Rawiri Paratene), who nearly disowns her because she is female and therefore traditionally disqualified from tribal leadership, 12-year-old Pai (Keisha Castle-Hughes) is convinced that she is a tribal leader, and sets about to prove it. Rather than inflate this story (from a novel by Witi Ihimaera) with artificial sentiment, writer-director Niki Caro develops very real and turbulent family relationships, intimate and yet torn by a collision between stubborn tradition and changing attitudes. The mythic whale rider--the ultimate symbol of Maori connection to nature--is also the harbinger of Pai's destiny, and the appealing Castle-Hughes gives a luminous, astonishingly powerful performance that won't leave a dry eye in the house. With its fresh take on a familiar tale, Whale Rider is definitely one from the heart. --Jeff Shannon
One of the most charming and critically acclaimed films of 2003, the New Zealand hit Whale Rider effectively combines Maori tribal tradition with the timely "girl power" of a vibrant new millennium. Despite the discouragement of her gruff and disapproving grandfather (Rawiri Paratene), who nearly disowns her because she is female and therefore traditionally disqualified from tribal leadership, 12-year-old Pai (Keisha Castle-Hughes) is convinced that she is a tribal leader, and sets about to prove it. Rather than inflate this story (from a novel by Witi Ihimaera) with artificial sentiment, writer-director Niki Caro develops very real and turbulent family relationships, intimate and yet torn by a collision between stubborn tradition and changing attitudes. The mythic whale rider--the ultimate symbol of Maori connection to nature--is also the harbinger of Pai's destiny, and the appealing Castle-Hughes gives a luminous, astonishingly powerful performance that won't leave a dry eye in the house. With its fresh take on a familiar tale, Whale Rider is definitely one from the heart. --Jeff Shannon
SHORT: The Three Stooges - If A Body Meets a Body
"Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays!
<However, use the mail slots to drop off any comments that just can't wait!>
G'day Gents!A Sunday morning round of ACKNOWELDGMENTS, just to get a "leg up" on things before the new week begins in earnest . . .
Saturday - Feb 16th: <all times Central standard>
Page 185 - Allan (Gunneral) at 7:29 PM: Been thinking about New Zealand these days - no particular reason for it, but on my mind. Have you been to Christchurch As I understand it there's a U.S. presence there pretty much year ‘round for the support of the Antarctic bases . . . also a port o' call for our USCG ice breakers who are part of Operation Deep Freeze. And to think that I cudda been there - but turned down the opportunities for 7 month deployments. <grin> Yes indeed, youth IS definitely wasted on the young. <aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh> I'd go in a NY minute today . . . but then all I could offer up would be "tales from back in the day." ‘Fraid my seagoing skills have diminished with the ravages of this ‘n that . . . <groan>
Don't know if you've ever heard of this gal - Dr. Jerri Nielsen, but she wrote a compelling real-life account of her experiences at the U.S. South Pole base. She came down with a "lump" in places where women don't ever want to fine them. Anyway, the account of what she went through in that oh-so-remote ‘n inaccessible place in the winter months is absolutely riveting. The book is entitled Ice Bound . . . a great inspiring read, fer sure, fer sure.
And speaking of books - Eric sez he's almost ready with to ship if off . . . so, give it a few more weeks, Mate! The 2007-08 RR Book Relay "lives"!
A fine < I3 > Post from our Resident Downunder NZ Kiwi!
Many thanx for the visit, chat ‘n ROUND!
Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 8:14 PM: Not the most ravishing of lasses - however, dontchajustluv a woman in uniform She was a gal from Québec, but not all that willing to chit-chat - especially with the likes of Moi! <uh oh> Probably still wonderin' how two of those three characters made their escape from the "home"! <grin>
There were smells of the old NYC subway system that will never leave me - sorta like the old "oleo margarine" from back in the 40s - but only mixed with just a smattering of spoiled onion ‘n garlic. <yikes> <barf> Some things just won't depart the old cranium storage bin. <grin>
Something to ponder:
Musha[G] ring dum a doo dum a da, [C]Whack fol de daddy o, [F]Whack fol de daddy o There's[C] whiskey[G] in the[C] jar.
Just makes ya wanna break out the ole Gibson ‘n go for it!
As always, appreciate the visit, ROUND ‘n chat!
Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:21 PM: Good of you to pick up on the "trouble maker" situation. They definitely require lots of surveillance . . . AND ensure that neither gets anywhere close to the stairwell leading the 3rd level Penthouse Suite! That's "off-limits" yesterday - today ‘ tomorrow to the both of ‘em.
Speaking of "tabs" - we most times don't run ‘em - but of course exceptions ARE made for our regulars . . . Our Bar Chandler has one so long that at times we think of it as "necessary room paper" . . . <uh oh>
Just finished up with some music of the Maritimes. Have you ever heard of Evans & Doherty or Sons of Maxwell Got turned on to these groups over 10 years ago when up in Cape Breton. A friend of mine owned a record store in Sydney <since closed> ‘n that began our collection. Used to order by internet from him too. Great stuff, fer sure, fer sure! Needless to say, lots of "sailor songs" to <mutter> along with.
Good evening Captain Tom and all present!!
Leon, I am glad I made just in time before you close this place, "Our" Place! Do you have any... you do?! Good! Medium, please and lots of mushrooms! A cold Tui, please!
A pretty cold Saturday, it is nice to come into this warm and nice Saloon by the Siding for a while!
Tom – I feel like I am one of the group who “ease” into the retirement. It feels good! I love these long weekends! I think you have all reasons in the world to be concerned about what is going on at the Second Class Saloon! Very concerned. Thanks for re-posting Senior Manager Lars’ and BK’s old posts! Interesting info on Thanksgiving Day in Canada!Pete – Thanks for the info on your Royal British Legion Tour! 1989? That is 19 years ago! Yes, you can easily hear when the wheels start slipping and you can also feel it. The worst part is when you have to stop at a certain place a gray day in the fall, when it is kind of wet outside making the rails extremely slippery. When you apply the brakes and can hear how quiet it gets when the wheels (and traction motors) stop spinning you know you might be in trouble. Nice photos from Shildon. Did they run just the locomotives on that track or did they also have them pull any trains? Allan – I have been to Cracker Barrel many times. I go there for lunch every workday. Since “my” particular CB opened in January 1998 I have been there 2,472 times. I keep track of all my visits! There are now 6 Cracker Barrels here in the Valley. More will open soon. Nick – The old country is Ireland? Hmm, I don’t feel very Irish. I don’t even know how it feels to be Irish! I know an Irish guy, have to ask him. Irish? Hmmm, no it wouldn’t work, they don’t even speak Swedish! I have to check the County Donegal Railway! Rob – Stratford Shops, what railroad did they belong to?
Some pictures of signals.
Eric
Good evening Leon, figured that I would pop in and help yopu lock up the joint,was a tad slooow today,oh well the young Canadian ladies and lads going bareback behind the bar were a refreshing change from the normal railroad hobo's and the Fusiliers practicing.I'll take a Keith's though and a nice medium rare T-bone though.
Tom-Good thoughts about Vito,we gotta watch that guy he's always trying to buy into the local busineses.I guess he's made to much money over the years at Molly's mudwrestling side of her establishment.
Nice touch with the encore's from the bookends,good way to round out the week
As for those two trouble makers their pictures are plastered all over the Mentor village<uh oh> Mr doyle assures me that he will keep tabs on them,no Boris he dosen't mean to hang them up with the tabs <sheesh>go back to your sheds I think your inflatables are lonely
Pete-thaks for the headboard info, looked like a neat tradition on the name trains, the board did not look as good looked sort of out of place on the diesel,one of the reason's I'm guessing that the practice was discontinued in the 60's, that and I guess the powers at be figured it was an old fashioned notion.Glad you enjoyed the round your welcome. Perhaps one day we can share a real one together,so long as the "black bag" isn't involved
Today's steam shots are keepers for sure. looks like you are getting the hang of your new toy
eric-Loved the shot of the Altoona loco facilities, they look to be the same size as the Once massive Stratford big shops in Stratford Ontario,all now torn down. At one point likley half the abled bodied working males in straford worked there,full steam locomotive building and rebuilding happened there. there are pictures of the big 6200 series CNR staemers travelling fully assembled ( minus the tender ) on the main shops over head gantry cranes.
Allan-Thanks for the thumbs up on the rather massive shoes whose job I'm attempting to fill.Sounds like street racing teens are not just a problem here in Canada. I aggree that 16 ( the legal driving age here ) is way to young I can't imagine giving younger than that a set of keys and four wheels.
Nick-Hmmm another carling man good choice, though I suppose that you really haven't met a beer that you didn't likeI hope that you have healed up from the festivities from Valentines eve,I'm still trying to decide if those really are authentic scalps that Helga came home with
Well hello and happy saturday to one and all-have just returned from a rare-(1st time in about 2 years) visit to our village pub so am fuelled with equal parts of Carling lager and Cleddau Redeye (along with Pembrokeshire new potatoes,a key element in the local economy...) and am determined to stick to my task-apologies to those who have posted since I was last here but I WILL catch up-theres too much good stuff out there to miss...
So,without further ado-Leon-A round for the house please old love-yes-the back room as well-and also that bunch of Canadian backpackers that are having a swimwear B-B-Q out in the snow in the back yard
Now where was I-aaaaah yes.....
SUN:-
TOM-The pix from the rendevous-lovely !!-that second one of you Ted & Rob looks like the most rubbish I.D parade ever ...."O.K. miss-can you identify the man that made that TERRIBLE remark to you.....?" -Nice one--The stewardess on the VIA train looks spookilly like my doctor-A lovely girl who I see every day on the school run (stop it you lot-it`s neither clever nor funny....
PETE-More from the cavalcade-and all fine shots--a once in a lifetime chance-how cool is THAT !!!!!-saw Cookham Manor in steam at Didcot-something not right with seeing a good road engine stuck shuffling up and down a quarter mile of track
LARS-A marvellous swansong-A fine selection of sepia tones-the embodiment of the classic trains ideal...
ERIC-Enjoyed the guided tour round Havelock shops-nice one mate -you got a genuine double-take out of me with that first `Old country` pic-normally in Britain,the old country is Ireland-as refered to by the many emigres to the states during the desperate years-and to add to the confusion the livery on those railcars is the exact same as the County Donegal Rly over in Ireland-lovely pix by the way-thanx also for the GO Train site
TOM-a footnote-fine movie selection
MON-
DD1-An excellent recipe-will try it on my family/captive audience as soon as may be..may I say that as a life long musician and free thinker,the idea of the slogan "Hemp for Victory" has a certain curious charm.......
ROB-full marks for the VIA power pix--I`ve got it now-Alcos have straight windows at the front,G.M`s have curved................
TOM-A fine selection of drum-heads-and the London underground -oh man-from the first pic I could SMELL the place-a complete broadside !!
more soon
Hi Tom and all,
The usual round of Tui`s for all the guys` please Leon!
Nick. Nice to see you survived the Irish rugger supporters invasion, enjoyed your Guildford station write up, sound a weird lot there but at least you met a friendly driver who let you at the controls.
Mike. Was in with a great mass of interesting URL`s on Oregon Electric, restuarants and a nice selection of North Eastern RR pics and a vid of Lars`s favourite subject "Domes".
Lars. Thanks for your kind words, it was a very sad occasion to have to read your final post and farewell, it`s been a real pleasure to have met you and to be associated with you here at "Our" place, your very interesting covAHS from the Larsman Mobile and all your repartee that you`ve shared so freely has made this place such a great delight to be a part of in this old world of ours`, I salute you and thank you for all the enjoyment you have given me over the time that i`ve known you. You will be greatly missed and that`s a FACT!
CM3. Was in with his usual interesting info.
Pete. Many thanks for your latest set of Shildon parade pics, a great lot of classic steam locos` indeed, and nice pics of that Royal British Legion trip behind Princess Elizabeth, and the nice Deltic pic, all "keepers"! Was a member of the Legion until migrating in 1969. Parsons are still operating as C A Parsons & Co at Heaton, Newcastle, they are now part of a Siemens group of companies, how things change over the years. See their is a link to the "Locomotion" museum at Shildon via the NRM site. Forgot to mention that I did watch the San Diego 7`s final, it`s nice to see ANY team put one over the SA rugby team anytime! The "Toon" are running out of time to WIN any games by the look of it!
Eric. Enjoyed the nice pics and info you posted, have you been down to the Cracker Barrel yet? A neighbour of ours, who originates from Queens, NY, has family who have a winter home in Scotsdale near you, and she has seen your favourite restuarant several times when visiting there.
Fergie. Nice to see you aboard again, nice Amtrak pic, go easy on that home decoration it can kind of snowball!
Jan. Nice to see you again mate, that was a nice set of pics from you, back to your usual self I can see.
Dan. Nice to see you in on a quick visit.
Rob. Here in NZ you can`t get much further away from civilisation as you can down here, but it does have it`s compensations most of the time. Nice to see that you are taking over the Bar managers stint from Lars, hope you will have a smooth transition, enjoyed all your info and pics and chats.
Tom. Totally agree with you that 15 is far too young to hold a drivers licence, but it`s been on the statute books here since licences were first issued, at the moment their is a campaign to raise it to 17 because of a "boy racer" problem here, but the very vocal farming lobby is against it! I totally support all of your comments about Lars`s place here, he will be greatly missed for sure. It is very fitting
This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!
Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays.
Wasn't going to Post today UNLESS someone came "in" - 'n there was Pete! With our numbers dwindling along with Saturday unreliability it makes no sense to Post into the oblivion. I mean what's the point of providing <freebies> for those who never speak <geesh> Anyway - a moot point, as we've been "saved" for this day . . .
I surely "transgressed" 'n apologies offered to Wolfman Pete! <mea culpa> Those fotos of the Royal British Legion <Friday's Pix> are MOST special treasures! Many thanx for sharing 'em with us. Strong sentiments for your heritage - both rail 'n men in uniform. Five to you, Sir Pete!
Noted this day's offering as well - just hope it doesn't get "lost" in the Ether as Saturday's are just not "interaction days" anymore. But, many thanx for stopping by . . . will get to specifics in my next round of ACKNOWLEDGMENTS!
Did notice your "old MacDonald's" loco - E-I-E-I-O!
Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O And on that farm he had a (animal), E-I-E-I-O With a (animal noise twice) here and a (animal noise twice) there Here a (animal noise), there a (animal noise), everywhere a (animal noise twice) Old MacDonald had a farm, E-I-E-I-O
Found a couple of back-to-back Posts from our former "bookends" here at the bar 'n thought them very approrpiate for this ENCORE! Saturday . . .
Both from the Original Thread, Page 400 - Posted on 25 Sep 2006 . . .
G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past! Overland FlyerFrom Wikipedia, the free encylopedia "Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.Until the next time! Lars
G'day (again) Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!
A supplement to Tom's Blast from the Past!
Overland Flyer
From Wikipedia, the free encylopedia
"Drumhead" logos such as this often adorned the ends of the observation cars on the Overland Limited.
The Overland Flyer was a passenger train originally operated by the Union Pacific Railroad. The name harkens back to a stagecoach line operated by the Overland Mail Company between Salt Lake City, Utah and Virginia City, Nevada from 1861 to 1866 when Wells Fargo & Company took over the stagecoach's operation. Wells Fargo ended this stagecoach service three years later.
The train (which gave rise to the UP's nickname as "The Overland Route") was inaugurated in 1887. The railroad's nickname was eventually dropped from the company logo in 1942. In time, the line (which took on the name Overland Limited) fell under the joint operation of the Chicago and North Western Railway, the Southern Pacific Railroad, and the Union Pacific.
Until the next time!
Lars
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Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!Hope all enjoyed a restful weekend! All is well here in the mountain retreat as we begin preparations for another getaway. Canadian Thanksgiving is not that far off and we will be heading off to Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:21 PM Hi Tom and all.A cup of your ‘famous' coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.TOM Thanks for the kind words on my post and photos, yes very pleased with the scanner it must be hardy as it as lasted so far (touch wood) with my tender touch.I don't think the warrant in Mountain Village will mean much to VITO as the chief of police there is bound to be a relation of his.I did not realize about the dome of the Capitol was on top of the dome car until I got it back from developing.It is funny, it is Fish & Chips but it becomes a Fish & Chip dinner or just a Fish supper in Scotland.HELGA thought it was a contest between Nick and you to see who would take her out on Valentine's Day.I wonder who are the two who could cause problems to our new manager. Great idea of Eric to have Lars as permanent Senior ManagerNICK I hope they continue brewing at Felinfoel if it has been bought, there has been too many good breweries closed in the UK lately.Thanks for the info on the Irish Hudswell Clark locos. The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland are running a steam special through Wexford as part of their International Railtour this year. On Friday May 9th No 186 is hauling the heritage set from Dublin to Waterford via Rosslare and on Sunday May 11th No 4 is returning on the same route with the Mk 2 set. I remember seeing the ex Metro-Vickers GM re-engined diesel 001 in the sidings at Waterford on one railtour of Ireland I will have to sort out some more photos from Ireland.Thanks for the offer of Tommy.ROB I'll have a pint later with you if I may.Glad you enjoyed the photos. The headboard on 6201 is carried by most of the steam specials running today carrying the name of the special, on some steam tours the first prize of the on board raffle is the headboard the locomotive carried. The headboards are in the style carried by named trains in the BR era, which I believe is the style of the LNER named trains pre war; perhaps Allan could help with that.There was a different style of headboard with the ex LMS lines Royal Scot and Caledonian name trains having a larger longer and thinner shape. The Southern Region had a more oblong shape that was worn lower down on the locomotives front.Headboards were carried for a short while when the diesels first started taking over the main line services but I believe they disappeared in the mid 1960s.This Headboard was used for a while on diesels on the Flying Scotsman train from London King's Cross to Edinburgh.ERIC Many thanks for the Altoona Railroad works, it must have been a task to walk from one end to the other. I noticed the rather unusual circular building of the Locomotive Finishing Shop.Yes the cars were not there when I passed the next day, although I guess they would have to be moved if the local freight wanted to use the leg of the wye the cars were on.I recall traveling up one of the grades in Northern England behind an electric locomotive on a very damp day and the driver was using all his skill to control the electric from slipping at speed, you could hear the different sound from the motors as they lost traction on the greasy rails.The date of the Royal British Legion tour was on Monday July 10th 1989. I must have taken a day's holiday from work to go on the special. For this weeks Shildon photos.LNER 4-4-0 class D49 built1927, BR No 62712 'Morayshire' a Scottish Railway Preservation Society engine. LMS Stanier Pacific 46201' Princess Elizabeth built 1933 currently running main line specials today.Southern Railway 4-6-0 class S15 Maunsell design built 1936 No 30841 currently on the North York Moors Railway.LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 44767, out of the 842 class 5s built this was the only example with Stephenson link valve gear Built 1947. 44767 is on the NYMR. LNER Class V2 2-6-2 No 60800 'Green Arrow built 1936 she is the first loco of the class and the only survivor of an original class of 184 locos.A National Railway Museum engine.LMS class 8F 2-8-0 built 1935,some of these frieght locos saw service overseas in World War II. This loco saw sevice in Persia it is now on the Severn Valley Railway. GWR Modified Hall 4-6-0 class 6960 'Raveningham Hall' built 1944 a Hawksworth developement of the 1924 Collett Hall class. Not sure which railway she is on a the present, was on the SVR at the time of the photo. siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:51 AM <personal foto>This is ENCORE! Saturday - and - Photo Posting Day!Remember: "Our" Place is CLOSED on Sundays. G'day Gents!The weekend has arrived ‘n with it a chance to kick back with us. Order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - select a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n fill up that coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Comments from the Proprietor:The Larsman: Our SENIOR MANAGER <emeritus> said he'd give me a call once back home in NY. So, in response to those who have asked - go ahead and send him your Emails - I'll make sure he knows to check his "in box" once things get settled. As many of you already know, he indicated that he won't be on-line anytime soon. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST - CONTEST - CONTESTWhen will we reach Page 200 Bonus: Who will make that Post * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Participants thus far:(1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)(9) Jan sez Mar 23rd (Tom)Contest CLOSES Monday, Feb 18th * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *G'day Gents!Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:58 PM: Admirable of the man in Wales to actually "do" the catch-up! Some pretend, others skim - but Nick's in the group of Rat's Patoot-ers who really mean it! Of course being "behind" a week puts you into the category of living one of those ‘delays' in transmission - so, what I'm saying now is sorta like trying to communicate with someone on the dark side of La Luna. <grin>Looking forward to your "report" of the Valentine's Nite Massacre at the Second Class Saloon! <grin>Many thanx for the libations - chat ‘n good CHEER! Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:55 PM: Regarding the NHL outdoor games - it would be a travesty to NOT have a Canadiens-Maple Leafs game. That above all others would surely pack the venue. Now I can "see" the Senators-Maple Leafs ‘n Senators-Canadiens face-offs in an outdoor environment, but when it comes to the history ‘n lore of the NHL - bring on Montréal-Toronto! Yes, we had quite a Friday at the Saloon by the Siding. Amazing how just the return of ONE guy can make such a difference <Jan> - then when the crew shows up, well it makes for a good day! I should WARN you, now that you're the Manager - there are two guys who are ALWAYS lurking in the shadows, waiting to pull a stunt on ya. So just watch your back, Mate. These two delight in making trouble - spelled with a capital "T," right here in Mentor City! You may be "on" to something with your supposition regarding Vito 'n the Second Class Saloon - BUT, he&# Happy Railroading! Siberianmo EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Saturday, February 16, 2008 12:55 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Hello Leon, an early Saturday morning breakfast, please. French toast with all that extra stuff including powder sugar and a large, spiked, OJ! Friday came and went and now it's Saturday! Fergie – Congratulations for finsihing the 2 week Rescue Specialist course! And good luck with the Super MESS!Tom – I am not snorting any stuff! I am enjoying my retirement! Too bad I promised to work part time this year. Sent the mail again. Something went wrong last night. Mike – I agree with what you wrote about Manager Lars reading this. Thank you for the links! Interesting dome car video!Best luck and thank you to your nephew-in-law!JanOlov – Long time, no see! Welcome back! No, it is Tom’s layout and trains! The Greatest Show on Earth? It must have been Ringling Brothers Circus. The largets rail shop complex in the world was PRR’s Altoona Railroad Works!Shown with permission from Wikipedia. The photo of those DMUs was taken in Lidköping.DL – You have a nice weekend too!!CM3 – The shot of the FL9 was taken along the line between New York and Albany. Pete – So you had the dome cars in Jefferson City?! Just for a day, or what? IRM has a lot of interesting stuff. You are correct about older electrics. Not that much was automated or limited/controlled by computers. Nice photos! I like the paint scheme on #6201! What year was that special? Nick – Hope you got rid of the cold before it really started! Have another glass of the special rum, it’s on me!Rob – I am sure you are right about Vito buying the Second Class Saloon! He’ll find a way to do it. Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:55 PM Good evening Leon I see that you've had the less busy shift for the day but that's okay between you and Boris the bar room looks wells wept and Boris and the umm Girls have got the pans and the kitchen sparkling.Nice to see all the critters are tucked in for the night all in all a good day yes Boris you can have a small PPF.So since all is happy i think I'll have a nice Guiness and here's some for a round for the morning partakers Tom-G'day sir looks like a nice busy day not so much tonight but hey most of the cast 'o' characters 'n' customers were in today so alls good Looks like the NHL is going to make the outside games a yearly tradition on New years day,going to have to stay to the colder cities.Chicago should be a good choice , I'd still like to see an outdoor one in Montreal with Toronto and Montreal but that wouldn't sell well SOTB so likely won't happen at least not as long as the league is rulled by the suits in NYC I think that Vito will find a way around buying the second class,he'll likely get one of his boyz or a "second cousin" to but it.He'll probably pay off teh judge in the mountain village at any rate so I don't think he's to worried about his persona non grata status.Pete-Yup I'll join you in the patoot room,I think we are sadly mistaken in our move to the cheaper,once all the heavy industry is gone I think we will be over a barrel I liked the pictures,nice add on decorations onn that loco,was it common for them to change those smokebox decorations or was that just a speacial made piece for that particular trip Jan-Wow visual overload I don't think I can answer all your queries but I'll give a couple of them a go.yes VIA had at least two other paint schemes beyond teh old Clasic yellow and blue which was the first paint scheme. A grey with yellow nnose and blue yellow stripes in severl configurations has been teh norm the last almost twenty years. the first P42's brought in the new scheme with the teal green/blue and yellow body matching the renasance cars. The F40's are now being painted in a similar paint scheme as they go in for rebuilds.If the pictures you are refering to are the soldiers that was a war of 1812 re-enactment at Fort George in Niagara on The Lake.The red cross pictures are the old railimages photo's I had looks like they've folded their tents so I'll have to rescan those one's onto my photobucket accountCM3-I'm guessing that yes the NHL will likely mess up the outdoor tradition somehow,done properly it should be a boon for them but I guess time will tell.Eric-Nice Amtrak shot, a real locomotive was leading that train Nick-I'm glad that you survived the shindig at the Second Class,it was touch and go there for a while.Rob nickinwestwales Member sinceApril 2005 901 posts Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, February 15, 2008 7:58 PM Well gentlemen all-how are we this fine crisp day ?-Leon,it`s friday night and I am most definately in the chair-a close relative has been waiting on some test results which came back clear today so a little quiet satisfaction is in order I feel-Therefore I will have a large glass of the special rum-as I also have a stinker of a cold perhaps another large rum might help .??-and better have a bottle of Starop as well please old thing,just to wash it down with........Right then chaps-just been backtracking and worked out I havn`t interacted since last sat.,so will attempt a bullet-point type catch up:-SAT:-TOM-Yes indeed mate,the BNSF surely echoes the G.N livery-although for my money the BNSF always looks a touch `brash`-possibly the greater amount of orange-my Brit sensbilities are attuned to more muted combinations.....BTW-you do me too much credit R.E-FP40/59-I didn`t spot the difference-merely suggested the possibility,based on something I`d read--Oh Mr Porter:-I do indeed recall this gem at the Emporium but I`ve always felt that this film,with it`s many small sets,close camera work and the whole atmosphere that B&W film creates works best on a small screen for a select audience...ROB-Nice pix of work vehicles & #8-that first one -I`m sure The Manx Electric Rly on the Isle of Man have a very similar unit -will have a look about...LARS-Not sure if you will read this or not mate-Glad I made it back to shake hands and raise a glass before you hit the road ........touched by your words-my door is always open to friends,would be delighted to take you to some gigs,ride the few local trains and turn you onto the local scenery-along with the rest of the crew....Drop us all a line as soon as you are settled and we can have a housewarming party for you..PETE-Yes indeed -the Double Dragon is the flagship brew of the Felinfoel brewery located in the eponymous village just outside Llanelli-although that said,it`s entirely possible that the place has been bought out-I have a ghost of a memory here..........................hmmmmm-nice work with the heads up & pix of the S&D 7f`s-looked really well with those coaches ...Irish matters:-I finally hd to give up and check the inter-web thingy for those Swilly engines -they were from Hudswell-Clarke and were (I think) poss. the only narrow gauge tender locos to run in Ireland--Rosslare services-Last time I was there,the only `spot` I had on that section was the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which was a 4 car DMU,identical to the units I had seen over in Co. Kerry earlier that week,arriving at Waterford-there were also a pair of very scruffy G.M units in black/orange down on the quay tracks......U-Tube-don`t be deceived dear boy-what you hear isn`t always what happened-in this instance it was,although not the `Blair witch` hand held camera thing that appears-the music was all being recorded onto a hard drive via a 16 track desk (you can see some of the mics in the video) and was synched in to the film afterwards (and is still about 1/64th of a beat out-irritates me every time I see itLive at Leeds-now theres an album-how could they go from a standing start straight into "Heaven & Hell" like that ??-will check with the boys -I`m sure there must be some way I can send you the `Tommy` show-might have to do it in bits.....Right -thats last sat.-bear with me here-it might take a while.................... siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 3:11 PM G'day Gents!A far busier Friday than I would've imagined - has kept Ruth ‘n Boris busy, which all means <KaChing> <KaChing> for Tilla ‘n Cashinator! <grin>Some catch-ups in the Acknowledgment Department . . .Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Mike (wanswheel) at 10:29 AM: Never knew of a guy who lost a million - but now I do! I KNOW what Lars is doing ‘n where's he's doing it at . . . the absolute last thing on his mind or within his ability to handle is the internet. Suggest you apply for a loan from the Mentor Village Second National Bank ‘n Not-so-Trust <Vito the Hit, President>. <uh oh>Enjoyed the dome link - very much! 4.0 "find" ‘n a <keeper> for "Our" Place! [tup ] Round appreciated! Page 184 - Jan (JanOlov) at 11:49 AM: A "voice" from the past <well not that far back . . .> as our Resident Swede in Scotland has returned with a Herculian effort of a catch-up acknowledgment. <triple wow> Takes quite a bit of time to go thru ‘em all . . . Answers: Yes - no - maybe - uhhhhhhh - don't know ‘n <geesh> Entry for the Contest noted - and I'm assuming you selected me as the person to get to Page 200. So you're "in" . . . .No <tweetable> OH-FEN-SEZ, however <tweekable> applies to the inflatables in Boris' Shed. <uh oh> <grin>Thoroughly AMAZED that you missed the most notable of news . . . <quadruple geesh>Thanx for Post, chock full ‘o fotos - generosities too! Page 184 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:29 PM: In for a penny . . . what's the diff It's the thought that counts! Great knowing you're still with us . . . bon weekend, Mate! [tup ]tup]Page 185 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:11 PM: A most profound "Thought for the day," wish I had said something like that "back in the day." <grin> There were so many opportunities . . . Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the bar in spite of the heavy work load . . . means a lot - as do the quarters ‘n ROUND! Relaxing weekend to ya, Mate! Page 185 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:56 PM: An excellent <I3 > Post from the guy who knows HOW! Splendid fotos with descriptions - getting even better since your new scanner arrived! No stopping you now, eh Vito CAN'T buy the Second Class Saloon. There's a warrant out for him in that township - which isn't Mentor Village - it's Mountain Village ‘n he's persona non grata there. Translation: they don't like him. <uh oh>Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Have a great weekend . . . * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Some one-liners:Pete: Love that "dome on dome" shot! Why is it "Fish & Chip" as opposed to chipS Don't get it . . . but at least you DO! <grin>Email received ‘n responded to . . . Thanx!Still baffled about your so-called "Contest" that you now say Nick has won. What in the world are you SMOKING <geesh> Rob: Happy Railroading! Siberianmo pwolfe Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: mid mo 1,054 posts Posted by pwolfe on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:56 PM Hi Tom and all.A pint of Bathams please RUTH.ROB Good words for Lars.It would have been good if that old SW had been running at the time, it really looked in great condition though.It is a very sad and a sobering thought about all the heavy industry that as disappeared. I think the worst thing is that the amount of money it would cost to re build, say a large steelworks, shipyard or engineering factory, would be tremendous and where they would get the skilled men from God only knows. I think we will pay for this in the future. Off to the Rat's Patoot Room for me for a while.So H&H had another great night out, what with their visit and the Darts Matches the poor old Second Class Saloon will never be the same, if Vito does buy it we will have to look out though.ERIC The dome cars were on the Wye that connects the main line to a branch that runs alongside Industrial Drive to serve some factories and warehouses here in Jefferson City. The bride spotted the cars as she came home from work; so we went down to see them. I believe the train was here to promote rail safety on grade crossings but was not open to the public. Heritage units did not haul the train though.I mis-read about the Interurban Sleeping Car at the IRM, they have got some really good exhibits there.I guess with the older electric locomotives the driver had a good deal more control over the acceleration than with the newer locos with their traction control.Great photo of the Amtrak GMD # 489.FERGIE I'll join in the toast to Lars if I may, good luck with the house painting.MIKE Many Thanks for the great video on U-Tube on the Dome Cars, really great photography with even some classic shots in color. Good piece on the Train of Tomorrow as well. I am sure Lars will enjoy it. JAN Good to see you in, sorry to hear that things are still very busy at your work.Glad you enjoyed my photos and posts. Really enjoyed the photos maps and posters, thanks for sharingDL I will look forward to your post, hopefully the work will ease a bit for you soon.CM3 Thanks for the info on the FP9 in Erics photo. Hope you enjoy the photos of one of the LMS's finest later in the post.TOM A while back we were talking about a steam hauled special train that was run to help raise funds for the Royal British Legion. I was lucky enough to be able to travel on the train. The steam locomotive was Sir William A. Stanier's Princess Royal class Pacific No 6201 Princess Elizabeth. The train ran along the North Wales coast with the steam locomotive running from Crewe to Holyhead and back.A photo of 6201 carrying the special headboard. These two photos were taken at Llandudno Junction, about half way along the coast line where 6201 took water. The first was on the outward run and this next one on the return.Before the special left Crewe the original destinctive nameplate 'British Legion' was on display the other nameplate s at the National Railway Museum at York. The locomotive that carried the name was Stanier's re-build of the high pressure compound locomotive Fury.It was placed in the Royal Scot class and numbered 46170 The rest of the Royal Scots were rebuilt the same as 46170. Well Ruth a round please and the Steak and Fries if H&H are fit enough to make itPete. coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, February 15, 2008 2:11 PM Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Here's my thought for the day. "If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else panics, you obviously don't appreciate the gravity of the situation." Just a short visit today as we started REAL early this a.m. Pete was by with comments and pictures.Rob - Another outdoor game? Too much, too soon, IMHO - NHL has never figured out this "marketing thing." Anyway, I'll take the Redwings by at least three goals.Eric - Nice shot of a r/b FL9. My first thought was that it might be train 449, but it may be 49 instead, given the cars. FL9s did not appear in Boston too often in later years although they were a fixture there when I was a pup. What's throwing me a little in the picture is the terrain, although there is some that looks like it between New York and Albany.DL and JanOlov were both in as well. OSP - Tough slot to fill, for sure - You put together a thoughtful tribute to the Larsman; good work, sir!Well. Better clean up (and put away) the equipment so we'll be ready for next time.Have a good weekend.Work safe DL - UK Member sinceAugust 2006 280 posts Posted by DL - UK on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:29 PM Hello Tom and all I'll have a beer and a round for the house, plus check the menu.Been one heck of a week here busy wise - hence not been in so just catch up looking at the mo - just to call in to say hi to all and read through the pics etc - hopefully more time soon. Our place certainly not forgotten!Have a good week endDL JanOlov Member sinceDecember 2001 From: GB 376 posts Posted by JanOlov on Friday, February 15, 2008 11:49 AM Salutations Tom and fellow Bar enthusiasts.... I hope that all with all and everybody here....May I have an extra cold Guinness please and a Laphroaig...? Work has been unussually busy this time of year so I DO apologise for my AWOL...I'll take it that it's just for me to grab the cleaning materiel and start on the brass, spitoons, light fixtures and everything else...$$$$, $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad train No. 4, the Pioneer Limited, passes near Deerfield, Illinois on June 22, 1946.siberianmo 01-29-2008, 8:29 PM: 3,500th reply...!? Woohooo! I totally missed that..! Sorry about that....THAT is some beautiful SP heralds...! Classy....!MopacBarrettTunnel 01-29-2008, 9:38 PM: Tell me about it....Been travelling so much on the "Beer Line", that they decided to give me a special ticket....Great pics...!pwolfe 01-29-2008, 10:00: BR diesleshave their unique looks, that's for sure, but WHAT is that thing on the nose??Another great set of pics..!EricX2000 01-30-2008, 1:20 AM: True indeed mate, cars and trains and what not that was designed back then, some of them still look modern today....Not to mention this lovely lassie, great pics!Second No. 2, the Empire Builder glides through Summit, Montana on August 5, 1938. siberianmo 01-30-2008, 12:30 PM: What is that CN machine...a diesel?siberianmo 01-30-2008, 3:32 PM: GREAT post...!Da Larsman 01-30-2008, 5:20 PM: Never get tired of your covers....WP=tasty..!wanswheel 01-30-2008, 9:46 PM: Great post and links..!A Northern Pacific train travels over Bozeman Pass, June 1939.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 3:43 AM: Imformative post indeed...I've always wondered about the signals etc put up at the front of the locomotives here on the islands...EricX2000 01-31-2008, 5:50 AM: Is that your machines and layout Eric?trolleyboy 01-31-2008, 2:37 PM: Is there any of those great old RS diesles still in use in Canada, museums or shortlines etc.?? siberianmo 01-31-2008, 4:28 PM: Now we're talking real trolleys here....great pics!Map of Northern Pacific's route circa 1900.pwolfe 01-31-2008, 8:51 PM: So the locomotives in these fine pics are American built then?EricX2000 02-01-2008, 1:11 AM: Who was that had that train The Greatest Show On Earth??trolleyboy 02-01-2008, 3:15 AM: NICE pics of those locos TB...DL&W and Erie-Lackawanna, eh? coalminer3 02-01-2008, 3:58 PM: Great post mate!<<<<<<------ Having a short break here------>>>>>>The Southern Pacific Company's Bay City ferry plies the waters of San Francisco Bay in the late 19th century.DL - UK 02-01-2008, 6:27 PM: Trying my very best, even though when I write this one, I'm totally knackered...people off sick and on holiday's and short staffed that still nothing has been done about..... Tom and you guys deserve that much when I'm gone for a week or two, to know that I'm still thinking about you all....but 24 hours isn't enough hours for a day...siberianmo 02-01-2008, 8:50 PM: Timeless and classic railroad ads.....YUMMY!!More please!pwolfe 02-02-2008, 5:00 PM: Great post with some niiiice pics...!siberianmo 02-02-2008, 8:44 PM: Woow! Some really colorful passenger cars....Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD F3 #881A hauling a 4-car passenger train. Photographed at Mitchell, Illinois, June 30, 1951. This is an early F3 with Type I side panels. It is fitted with a steam generator for passenger-car heating, a freight pilot, and only a single headlight.trolleyboy 02-03-2008, 1:53 AM and 02-03-2008, 2:00 AM: Darn...! I missed the pics! Only wee red crosses now.EricX2000 02-03-2008, 6:20 AM: Interesting pics indeed!trolleyboy 02-04-2008, 3:54 AM: Interesting pics, what are they doing and where AND why?DL - UK 02-04-2008, 6:17 PM: Excellent post!1884 map of the Pennsylvania, Reading and Lehigh Valley RailroadsDD1 02-04-2008, 6:24 PM: Great post!< All the best! Jan wanswheel Member sinceNovember 2005 4,190 posts Posted by wanswheel on Friday, February 15, 2008 10:29 AM Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the houseGood old Lars. He puts so much energy into everything he does. Came in loaded for bear and true to character went out with a bang. One thing for certain though, he's going to continue to monitor the thread. Betcha a million bucks he's reading this right now. Hi Lars. You haven't been gone long enough for me to miss you yet but Tom seems to kind of got the blues already. Take your time, but hurry back. By the way, thank you for supporting the troops with the ribbon in your signature line. One of them is my nephew-in-law, married to my niece, serving in Iraq with the Maryland National Guard. They got little kids who can't quite figure out where Daddy disappeared to. Here's a video clip about Domeshttp://www.chinaconcepts.net/video/domecarmagic01op.jpghttp://youtube.com/watch?v=2baVBWMJ0OsMike siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts "Our" Place reborn! An adult bar 'n grill for the discussion of Classic Trains! Posted by siberianmo on Friday, February 15, 2008 6:49 AM <personal foto> Friday's GrinReason "things" happen!Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are. G'day Gents!Not much to say - you know the "drill" . . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *CONTEST Participants thus far: (1) Rob sez Mar 15th (Lars)(2) Pete sez Mar 19th (Rob)(3) Allan sez Mar 15th (Pete)(4) Eric sez Mar 1st (Lars)(5) Mike sez Mar 12th (Tom)(6) Lars sez Mar 21st (Tom)(7) CM3 sez Mar 8th (Rob)(8) Fergie sez Mar 21st (Tom)CONTEST closes on Monday . . .* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Customer Acknowledgments (since my last narrative):Thursday - Feb 14th: <all times Central standard>Page 184 - Lars (LoveDomes) at 9:46 AM: Adieu, mon ami! Page 184 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:58 PM.Page 184 - Pete (pwolfe) at 4:46 PM.Page 184 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 9:58 PM.Friday - Feb 15th: Page 184 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:43 A.M. Page 184 - Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:13 AM.* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing. TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often! Cindy is our Saturday bartender! Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle! Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Fergmiester Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Out on the Briny Ocean Tossed 4,240 posts Posted by Fergmiester on Friday, February 15, 2008 5:13 AM Good Morning Captain Tom and Sundry!I'll have a Western to go please and thanksLarsman... What can I say... Though short our relationship I have noticed you have been a major contributor in this here fine establishment and I know your absence will have a major impact. So sir my hat is off to you! And a hefty round of Kieth's to all so we may raise a toast in your honour.Well this is exam day for me as I finish up my 2 week Rescue Specialist course which will free up a whole lotta time for ... dare I say it... house painting #%$&^ I hate to paint!!!Anyway after studying the body's circulatory system yet again I am now wondering (once again) on how I can re-arrange the the MESS. If I do so it will no longer be the MESS it will be the Super MESS!And Finally put me down for March 21st and I believe it to be our beloved Capt'n Tom who will hit our Milestone.Later AllFergie http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959 If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007 EricX2000 Member sinceDecember 2002 From: Phoenix, AZ 683 posts Posted by EricX2000 on Friday, February 15, 2008 12:43 AM Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!Leon, a number 5 Special Dual Double Combo and a cold Keith's, please! Round for the house!Some things to study and discuss here tonight.Tom – I’ve had about 30 different cars in my life and my very favorite was my Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1989. It had everything!!! I had it for two years, but sold it when I moved here. Hope you had a wonderful date with Helga!!! Did she come along to Oslo? Did you tell Manager Lars? This is getting more and more interesting!Thanks for re-posting Lars’ old post with the article on Dome cars and their history! I can understand that the dome area was regarded a non-revenue area. Interesting!Email received and responded to.Mike – ‘56 Dodge hardtop were very good looking cars! My very favorite when it comes to good looking cars is De Soto hardtop 1958!!! Thanks for all links! Older photos of regular trains and Valentine railroad ads! Lars – It is a sad day here at the bar today! No matter what, you will always be the Manager! And I hope we will see you every now and then even in the future!A bunch of interesting books, as usual! I’ll pick Southern Pacific Historic Diesels. I think it says volume 6. It is sad to read the second part of your post but I understand that you have to do what you have to do. Thanks for the nice words! We will do our best to train the new Manager, but you will always be the Senior Manager of this place! I am sure Rob will do a great job though. Looking forward to see you as often as possible in the future! My best to you and the Mrs! Ruth just told me that she has asked for a raise so she can fly out to the east coast more often! I wonder why? Hmmm. By the way, you have to keep an eye on the number of pages and post when page #200 is due, so I’ll win the contest. CM3 – Interesting driving? I guess that is one way to say it. One inch of snow is not bad though. Detcord? I’ll remember to ask about it in May. Pete – As I mentioned yesterday, IRM has one interurban sleeping car. I think that is the only one left. The acceleration demonstrations with the Rc1 was fun. It is amazing how fast those locomotives can accelerate! Nice photos! Where did you take the picture of the UP Dome car?Rob – Seems like you had a good time at the Second Class Saloon! I heard that Vito would like to hire Manager Lars as the new Second Class Saloon manager! Heading for Albany, NY.Eric trolleyboy Member sinceMay 2014 3,727 posts Posted by trolleyboy on Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:58 PM Good evening Leon my good man.Nice heart shaped bowtie and matching cumberbun a gift from Hilda you say,your a luckey man she isn't always that giving. I think I'll sample some of Copperkettles fish n chips what the heck some mushy peas as well Boris likes it when I give mine to him,I think a nice Keith's to wash it down with. Here's some extra for a round for the rest of Daboyz as well First off a hearty good bye and god speed for the Larsman and his family. I can only barely fill his slippers, never his shoes. It's been an honour to interact with you,I wish we coulda met,might still Anytime that you have for us will be well welcomed and anticipated when you can. A five salute for you da bars greatest customer.Tom-What can I say you were able to manouver outta the date,howeevr as Pete has noticed the girls think they are more sought after now than ever. I just have to say that the second calss will no longer be the same,not a dry eye left in that house ( Helga's new perfume O'de pepper spray )Not many left standing a swell. typical for the girls they satyrted and finished a brawl,even Mountain man Mike was in tears. I had lost sight of Nick in the melee last I saw him he was flying towards the fire exit amidst the debris and tangled limbs,still clutching his pint which was amazingly unspilled Looks as though Vito and his Boyz may be buying and renovating the second class,that's the word in the alley anyway. I'm glad to see Lar's dome post again today a fitting tribute to he who loves the domes the most In an completely unrealated note,I heard today that teh NHL is contemplating another big outdoor game next year. The odd's on favourite is to put ice into Soldier field in Chicago and teh game wll be the Blackhawks and the Redwings , won't that be a sight if it happens.Pete-I think you will find alot of those old SW's had those leftover from steam days style headlights with the loco number on them. theer was that timeframe when the railroad pundits deemed that switchers were the only viable use for diesel engines ,times do change.As rough as that unit looks those old 567 series diesels were tough nuts to crack,properly maintained they will out last the locomotive. I can't imagine what Liverpool and the other big shipbuilding centre in the UK must be like now.Amazing as to how many of those old firms are gone or drastically smaller scale than they were not sixty years ago. When you think that in the earlier part of the century those slipways were turning out Battleships and ocean liners faster than they could be crewed. I suppose alot like parts of Pennsylvania where the steel mills have come and gone,at one point with those industries it ws unthinkable that they could fail and fade away.great dome shot BTW Eric-Thanks for the info on those Swedish state railway electrics,not at all supprising the speed at which they do pick up speed. Even operating our cars at the museum it's amazing as to how fast they get up and go.Mike-Some good and on side urls as always Cm3-What ho, isn't just neat how Mike was able to pull those old baseball urls out of his magic bag of urls.Rob « First«891011121314»Last » SUBSCRIBER & MEMBER LOGIN Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register FREE NEWSLETTER SIGNUP Get the Classic Trains twice-monthly newsletter Submit More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
A cup of your ‘famous' coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.
TOM Thanks for the kind words on my post and photos, yes very pleased with the scanner it must be hardy as it as lasted so far (touch wood) with my tender touch.
I don't think the warrant in Mountain Village will mean much to VITO as the chief of police there is bound to be a relation of his.
I did not realize about the dome of the Capitol was on top of the dome car until I got it back from developing.
It is funny, it is Fish & Chips but it becomes a Fish & Chip dinner or just a Fish supper in Scotland.
HELGA thought it was a contest between Nick and you to see who would take her out on Valentine's Day.
I wonder who are the two who could cause problems to our new manager. Great idea of Eric to have Lars as permanent Senior Manager
NICK I hope they continue brewing at Felinfoel if it has been bought, there has been too many good breweries closed in the UK lately.
Thanks for the info on the Irish Hudswell Clark locos. The Railway Preservation Society of Ireland are running a steam special through Wexford as part of their International Railtour this year. On Friday May 9th No 186 is hauling the heritage set from Dublin to Waterford via Rosslare and on Sunday May 11th No 4 is returning on the same route with the Mk 2 set. I remember seeing the ex Metro-Vickers GM re-engined diesel 001 in the sidings at Waterford on one railtour of Ireland I will have to sort out some more photos from Ireland.
Thanks for the offer of Tommy.
ROB I'll have a pint later with you if I may.
Glad you enjoyed the photos. The headboard on 6201 is carried by most of the steam specials running today carrying the name of the special, on some steam tours the first prize of the on board raffle is the headboard the locomotive carried. The headboards are in the style carried by named trains in the BR era, which I believe is the style of the LNER named trains pre war; perhaps Allan could help with that.
There was a different style of headboard with the ex LMS lines Royal Scot and Caledonian name trains having a larger longer and thinner shape. The Southern Region had a more oblong shape that was worn lower down on the locomotives front.
Headboards were carried for a short while when the diesels first started taking over the main line services but I believe they disappeared in the mid 1960s.
This Headboard was used for a while on diesels on the Flying Scotsman train from London King's Cross to Edinburgh.
ERIC Many thanks for the Altoona Railroad works, it must have been a task to walk from one end to the other. I noticed the rather unusual circular building of the Locomotive Finishing Shop.
Yes the cars were not there when I passed the next day, although I guess they would have to be moved if the local freight wanted to use the leg of the wye the cars were on.
I recall traveling up one of the grades in Northern England behind an electric locomotive on a very damp day and the driver was using all his skill to control the electric from slipping at speed, you could hear the different sound from the motors as they lost traction on the greasy rails.
The date of the Royal British Legion tour was on Monday July 10th 1989. I must have taken a day's holiday from work to go on the special.
For this weeks Shildon photos.
LNER 4-4-0 class D49 built1927, BR No 62712 'Morayshire' a Scottish Railway Preservation Society engine.
LMS Stanier Pacific 46201' Princess Elizabeth built 1933 currently running main line specials today.
Southern Railway 4-6-0 class S15 Maunsell design built 1936 No 30841 currently on the North York Moors Railway.
LMS class 5 4-6-0 No 44767, out of the 842 class 5s built this was the only example with Stephenson link valve gear Built 1947. 44767 is on the NYMR.
LNER Class V2 2-6-2 No 60800 'Green Arrow built 1936 she is the first loco of the class and the only survivor of an original class of 184 locos.A National Railway Museum engine.
LMS class 8F 2-8-0 built 1935,some of these frieght locos saw service overseas in World War II. This loco saw sevice in Persia it is now on the Severn Valley Railway.
GWR Modified Hall 4-6-0 class 6960 'Raveningham Hall' built 1944 a Hawksworth developement of the 1924 Collett Hall class. Not sure which railway she is on a the present, was on the SVR at the time of the photo.
The weekend has arrived ‘n with it a chance to kick back with us. Order a <light> or <traditional> breakfast - select a few pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery ‘n fill up that coffee mug with our freshly ground ‘n brewed special blend!
The Larsman: Our SENIOR MANAGER <emeritus> said he'd give me a call once back home in NY. So, in response to those who have asked - go ahead and send him your Emails - I'll make sure he knows to check his "in box" once things get settled. As many of you already know, he indicated that he won't be on-line anytime soon.
Contest CLOSES Monday, Feb 18th
Friday - Feb 15th: <all times Central standard>
Page 185 - Nick (nickinwestwales) at 7:58 PM: Admirable of the man in Wales to actually "do" the catch-up! Some pretend, others skim - but Nick's in the group of Rat's Patoot-ers who really mean it!
Of course being "behind" a week puts you into the category of living one of those ‘delays' in transmission - so, what I'm saying now is sorta like trying to communicate with someone on the dark side of La Luna. <grin>
Looking forward to your "report" of the Valentine's Nite Massacre at the Second Class Saloon! <grin>
Many thanx for the libations - chat ‘n good CHEER!
Page 185 - Rob (trolleyboy) at 11:55 PM: Regarding the NHL outdoor games - it would be a travesty to NOT have a Canadiens-Maple Leafs game. That above all others would surely pack the venue. Now I can "see" the Senators-Maple Leafs ‘n Senators-Canadiens face-offs in an outdoor environment, but when it comes to the history ‘n lore of the NHL - bring on Montréal-Toronto!
Yes, we had quite a Friday at the Saloon by the Siding. Amazing how just the return of ONE guy can make such a difference <Jan> - then when the crew shows up, well it makes for a good day!
I should WARN you, now that you're the Manager - there are two guys who are ALWAYS lurking in the shadows, waiting to pull a stunt on ya. So just watch your back, Mate. These two delight in making trouble - spelled with a capital "T," right here in Mentor City!
You may be "on" to something with your supposition regarding Vito 'n the Second Class Saloon - BUT, he&#
Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!
Hello Leon, an early Saturday morning breakfast, please. French toast with all that extra stuff including powder sugar and a large, spiked, OJ!
Friday came and went and now it's Saturday!
Fergie – Congratulations for finsihing the 2 week Rescue Specialist course! And good luck with the Super MESS!Tom – I am not snorting any stuff! I am enjoying my retirement! Too bad I promised to work part time this year. Sent the mail again. Something went wrong last night. Mike – I agree with what you wrote about Manager Lars reading this. Thank you for the links! Interesting dome car video!Best luck and thank you to your nephew-in-law!JanOlov – Long time, no see! Welcome back! No, it is Tom’s layout and trains! The Greatest Show on Earth? It must have been Ringling Brothers Circus. The largets rail shop complex in the world was PRR’s Altoona Railroad Works!
Shown with permission from Wikipedia.
The photo of those DMUs was taken in Lidköping.DL – You have a nice weekend too!!CM3 – The shot of the FL9 was taken along the line between New York and Albany. Pete – So you had the dome cars in Jefferson City?! Just for a day, or what? IRM has a lot of interesting stuff. You are correct about older electrics. Not that much was automated or limited/controlled by computers. Nice photos! I like the paint scheme on #6201! What year was that special? Nick – Hope you got rid of the cold before it really started! Have another glass of the special rum, it’s on me!Rob – I am sure you are right about Vito buying the Second Class Saloon! He’ll find a way to do it. Eric
Good evening Leon I see that you've had the less busy shift for the day but that's okay between you and Boris the bar room looks wells wept and Boris and the umm Girls have got the pans and the kitchen sparkling.Nice to see all the critters are tucked in for the night all in all a good day yes Boris you can have a small PPF.
So since all is happy i think I'll have a nice Guiness and here's some for a round for the morning partakers
Tom-G'day sir looks like a nice busy day not so much tonight but hey most of the cast 'o' characters 'n' customers were in today so alls good
Looks like the NHL is going to make the outside games a yearly tradition on New years day,going to have to stay to the colder cities.Chicago should be a good choice , I'd still like to see an outdoor one in Montreal with Toronto and Montreal but that wouldn't sell well SOTB so likely won't happen at least not as long as the league is rulled by the suits in NYC
I think that Vito will find a way around buying the second class,he'll likely get one of his boyz or a "second cousin" to but it.He'll probably pay off teh judge in the mountain village at any rate so I don't think he's to worried about his persona non grata status.
Pete-Yup I'll join you in the patoot room,I think we are sadly mistaken in our move to the cheaper,once all the heavy industry is gone I think we will be over a barrel
I liked the pictures,nice add on decorations onn that loco,was it common for them to change those smokebox decorations or was that just a speacial made piece for that particular trip
Jan-Wow visual overload I don't think I can answer all your queries but I'll give a couple of them a go.yes VIA had at least two other paint schemes beyond teh old Clasic yellow and blue which was the first paint scheme. A grey with yellow nnose and blue yellow stripes in severl configurations has been teh norm the last almost twenty years. the first P42's brought in the new scheme with the teal green/blue and yellow body matching the renasance cars. The F40's are now being painted in a similar paint scheme as they go in for rebuilds.If the pictures you are refering to are the soldiers that was a war of 1812 re-enactment at Fort George in Niagara on The Lake.The red cross pictures are the old railimages photo's I had looks like they've folded their tents so I'll have to rescan those one's onto my photobucket account
CM3-I'm guessing that yes the NHL will likely mess up the outdoor tradition somehow,done properly it should be a boon for them but I guess time will tell.
Eric-Nice Amtrak shot, a real locomotive was leading that train
Nick-I'm glad that you survived the shindig at the Second Class,it was touch and go there for a while.
Well gentlemen all-how are we this fine crisp day ?-Leon,it`s friday night and I am most definately in the chair-a close relative has been waiting on some test results which came back clear today so a little quiet satisfaction is in order I feel-Therefore I will have a large glass of the special rum-as I also have a stinker of a cold perhaps another large rum might help .??-and better have a bottle of Starop as well please old thing,just to wash it down with........
Right then chaps-just been backtracking and worked out I havn`t interacted since last sat.,so will attempt a bullet-point type catch up:-
SAT:-
TOM-Yes indeed mate,the BNSF surely echoes the G.N livery-although for my money the BNSF always looks a touch `brash`-possibly the greater amount of orange-my Brit sensbilities are attuned to more muted combinations.....BTW-you do me too much credit R.E-FP40/59-I didn`t spot the difference-merely suggested the possibility,based on something I`d read--Oh Mr Porter:-I do indeed recall this gem at the Emporium but I`ve always felt that this film,with it`s many small sets,close camera work and the whole atmosphere that B&W film creates works best on a small screen for a select audience...
ROB-Nice pix of work vehicles & #8-that first one -I`m sure The Manx Electric Rly on the Isle of Man have a very similar unit -will have a look about...
LARS-Not sure if you will read this or not mate-Glad I made it back to shake hands and raise a glass before you hit the road ........touched by your words-my door is always open to friends,would be delighted to take you to some gigs,ride the few local trains and turn you onto the local scenery-along with the rest of the crew....Drop us all a line as soon as you are settled and we can have a housewarming party for you..
PETE-Yes indeed -the Double Dragon is the flagship brew of the Felinfoel brewery located in the eponymous village just outside Llanelli-although that said,it`s entirely possible that the place has been bought out-I have a ghost of a memory here..........................hmmmmm-nice work with the heads up & pix of the S&D 7f`s-looked really well with those coaches ...Irish matters:-I finally hd to give up and check the inter-web thingy for those Swilly engines -they were from Hudswell-Clarke and were (I think) poss. the only narrow gauge tender locos to run in Ireland--Rosslare services-Last time I was there,the only `spot` I had on that section was the evening Rosslare-Waterford service which was a 4 car DMU,identical to the units I had seen over in Co. Kerry earlier that week,arriving at Waterford-there were also a pair of very scruffy G.M units in black/orange down on the quay tracks......U-Tube-don`t be deceived dear boy-what you hear isn`t always what happened-in this instance it was,although not the `Blair witch` hand held camera thing that appears-the music was all being recorded onto a hard drive via a 16 track desk (you can see some of the mics in the video) and was synched in to the film afterwards (and is still about 1/64th of a beat out-irritates me every time I see itLive at Leeds-now theres an album-how could they go from a standing start straight into "Heaven & Hell" like that ??-will check with the boys -I`m sure there must be some way I can send you the `Tommy` show-might have to do it in bits.....
Right -thats last sat.-bear with me here-it might take a while....................
A far busier Friday than I would've imagined - has kept Ruth ‘n Boris busy, which all means <KaChing> <KaChing> for Tilla ‘n Cashinator! <grin>
Some catch-ups in the Acknowledgment Department . . .
Page 184 - Mike (wanswheel) at 10:29 AM: Never knew of a guy who lost a million - but now I do! I KNOW what Lars is doing ‘n where's he's doing it at . . . the absolute last thing on his mind or within his ability to handle is the internet. Suggest you apply for a loan from the Mentor Village Second National Bank ‘n Not-so-Trust <Vito the Hit, President>. <uh oh>
Enjoyed the dome link - very much! 4.0 "find" ‘n a <keeper> for "Our" Place! [tup ]
Round appreciated!
Page 184 - Jan (JanOlov) at 11:49 AM: A "voice" from the past <well not that far back . . .> as our Resident Swede in Scotland has returned with a Herculian effort of a catch-up acknowledgment. <triple wow> Takes quite a bit of time to go thru ‘em all . . .
Answers: Yes - no - maybe - uhhhhhhh - don't know ‘n <geesh>
Entry for the Contest noted - and I'm assuming you selected me as the person to get to Page 200. So you're "in" . . . .
No <tweetable> OH-FEN-SEZ, however <tweekable> applies to the inflatables in Boris' Shed. <uh oh> <grin>
Thoroughly AMAZED that you missed the most notable of news . . . <quadruple geesh>
Thanx for Post, chock full ‘o fotos - generosities too!
Page 184 - Dan (DL-UK) at 12:29 PM: In for a penny . . . what's the diff It's the thought that counts! Great knowing you're still with us . . . bon weekend, Mate! [tup ]tup]
Page 185 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 2:11 PM: A most profound "Thought for the day," wish I had said something like that "back in the day." <grin> There were so many opportunities . . .
Many thanx for thinking ‘bout the bar in spite of the heavy work load . . . means a lot - as do the quarters ‘n ROUND! Relaxing weekend to ya, Mate!
Page 185 - Pete (pwolfe) at 2:56 PM: An excellent <I3 > Post from the guy who knows HOW!
Splendid fotos with descriptions - getting even better since your new scanner arrived! No stopping you now, eh
Vito CAN'T buy the Second Class Saloon. There's a warrant out for him in that township - which isn't Mentor Village - it's Mountain Village ‘n he's persona non grata there. Translation: they don't like him. <uh oh>
Appreciate the visit, chat ‘n ROUND! Have a great weekend . . .
Some one-liners:
Pete: Love that "dome on dome" shot!
Why is it "Fish & Chip" as opposed to chipS Don't get it . . . but at least you DO! <grin>
Email received ‘n responded to . . . Thanx!
Still baffled about your so-called "Contest" that you now say Nick has won. What in the world are you SMOKING <geesh>
Rob:
A pint of Bathams please RUTH.
ROB Good words for Lars.
It would have been good if that old SW had been running at the time, it really looked in great condition though.
It is a very sad and a sobering thought about all the heavy industry that as disappeared. I think the worst thing is that the amount of money it would cost to re build, say a large steelworks, shipyard or engineering factory, would be tremendous and where they would get the skilled men from God only knows. I think we will pay for this in the future. Off to the Rat's Patoot Room for me for a while.
So H&H had another great night out, what with their visit and the Darts Matches the poor old Second Class Saloon will never be the same, if Vito does buy it we will have to look out though.
ERIC The dome cars were on the Wye that connects the main line to a branch that runs alongside Industrial Drive to serve some factories and warehouses here in Jefferson City. The bride spotted the cars as she came home from work; so we went down to see them. I believe the train was here to promote rail safety on grade crossings but was not open to the public. Heritage units did not haul the train though.
I mis-read about the Interurban Sleeping Car at the IRM, they have got some really good exhibits there.
I guess with the older electric locomotives the driver had a good deal more control over the acceleration than with the newer locos with their traction control.
Great photo of the Amtrak GMD # 489.
FERGIE I'll join in the toast to Lars if I may, good luck with the house painting.
MIKE Many Thanks for the great video on U-Tube on the Dome Cars, really great photography with even some classic shots in color. Good piece on the Train of Tomorrow as well. I am sure Lars will enjoy it.
JAN Good to see you in, sorry to hear that things are still very busy at your work.
Glad you enjoyed my photos and posts. Really enjoyed the photos maps and posters, thanks for sharing
DL I will look forward to your post, hopefully the work will ease a bit for you soon.
CM3 Thanks for the info on the FP9 in Erics photo. Hope you enjoy the photos of one of the LMS's finest later in the post.
TOM A while back we were talking about a steam hauled special train that was run to help raise funds for the Royal British Legion. I was lucky enough to be able to travel on the train. The steam locomotive was Sir William A. Stanier's Princess Royal class Pacific No 6201 Princess Elizabeth. The train ran along the North Wales coast with the steam locomotive running from Crewe to Holyhead and back.
A photo of 6201 carrying the special headboard.
These two photos were taken at Llandudno Junction, about half way along the coast line where 6201 took water. The first was on the outward run and this next one on the return.
Before the special left Crewe the original destinctive nameplate 'British Legion' was on display the other nameplate s at the National Railway Museum at York. The locomotive that carried the name was Stanier's re-build of the high pressure compound locomotive Fury.It was placed in the Royal Scot class and numbered 46170 The rest of the Royal Scots were rebuilt the same as 46170.
Well Ruth a round please and the Steak and Fries if H&H are fit enough to make it
Pete.
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.
Here's my thought for the day. "If you can keep your wits about you while everyone else panics, you obviously don't appreciate the gravity of the situation."
Just a short visit today as we started REAL early this a.m.
Pete was by with comments and pictures.
Rob - Another outdoor game? Too much, too soon, IMHO - NHL has never figured out this "marketing thing." Anyway, I'll take the Redwings by at least three goals.
Eric - Nice shot of a r/b FL9. My first thought was that it might be train 449, but it may be 49 instead, given the cars. FL9s did not appear in Boston too often in later years although they were a fixture there when I was a pup. What's throwing me a little in the picture is the terrain, although there is some that looks like it between New York and Albany.
DL and JanOlov were both in as well.
OSP - Tough slot to fill, for sure - You put together a thoughtful tribute to the Larsman; good work, sir!
Well. Better clean up (and put away) the equipment so we'll be ready for next time.
Have a good weekend.
Work safe
Hello Tom and all
I'll have a beer and a round for the house, plus check the menu.
Been one heck of a week here busy wise - hence not been in so just catch up looking at the mo - just to call in to say hi to all and read through the pics etc - hopefully more time soon. Our place certainly not forgotten!
Have a good week end
Salutations Tom and fellow Bar enthusiasts.... I hope that all with all and everybody here....
May I have an extra cold Guinness please and a Laphroaig...? Work has been unussually busy this time of year so I DO apologise for my AWOL...I'll take it that it's just for me to grab the cleaning materiel and start on the brass, spitoons, light fixtures and everything else...
$$$$, $$$$ for the cigar box and Mr Wurlitzer....
Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Railroad train No. 4, the Pioneer Limited, passes near Deerfield, Illinois on June 22, 1946.
siberianmo 01-29-2008, 8:29 PM: 3,500th reply...!? Woohooo! I totally missed that..! Sorry about that....
THAT is some beautiful SP heralds...! Classy....!
MopacBarrettTunnel 01-29-2008, 9:38 PM: Tell me about it....Been travelling so much on the "Beer Line", that they decided to give me a special ticket....
Great pics...!
pwolfe 01-29-2008, 10:00: BR diesleshave their unique looks, that's for sure, but WHAT is that thing on the nose??
Another great set of pics..!
EricX2000 01-30-2008, 1:20 AM: True indeed mate, cars and trains and what not that was designed back then, some of them still look modern today....
Not to mention this lovely lassie, great pics!
siberianmo 01-30-2008, 12:30 PM: What is that CN machine...a diesel?
siberianmo 01-30-2008, 3:32 PM: GREAT post...!
Da Larsman 01-30-2008, 5:20 PM: Never get tired of your covers....WP=tasty..!
wanswheel 01-30-2008, 9:46 PM: Great post and links..!
A Northern Pacific train travels over Bozeman Pass, June 1939.
pwolfe 01-31-2008, 3:43 AM: Imformative post indeed...I've always wondered about the signals etc put up at the front of the locomotives here on the islands...
EricX2000 01-31-2008, 5:50 AM: Is that your machines and layout Eric?
trolleyboy 01-31-2008, 2:37 PM: Is there any of those great old RS diesles still in use in Canada, museums or shortlines etc.??
siberianmo 01-31-2008, 4:28 PM: Now we're talking real trolleys here....great pics!
Map of Northern Pacific's route circa 1900.
pwolfe 01-31-2008, 8:51 PM: So the locomotives in these fine pics are American built then?
EricX2000 02-01-2008, 1:11 AM: Who was that had that train The Greatest Show On Earth??
trolleyboy 02-01-2008, 3:15 AM: NICE pics of those locos TB...DL&W and Erie-Lackawanna, eh?
coalminer3 02-01-2008, 3:58 PM: Great post mate!
<<<<<<------ Having a short break here------>>>>>>
The Southern Pacific Company's Bay City ferry plies the waters of San Francisco Bay in the late 19th century.
DL - UK 02-01-2008, 6:27 PM: Trying my very best, even though when I write this one, I'm totally knackered...people off sick and on holiday's and short staffed that still nothing has been done about..... Tom and you guys deserve that much when I'm gone for a week or two, to know that I'm still thinking about you all....but 24 hours isn't enough hours for a day...
siberianmo 02-01-2008, 8:50 PM: Timeless and classic railroad ads.....YUMMY!!
More please!
pwolfe 02-02-2008, 5:00 PM: Great post with some niiiice pics...!
siberianmo 02-02-2008, 8:44 PM: Woow! Some really colorful passenger cars....
Gulf, Mobile and Ohio Railroad EMD F3 #881A hauling a 4-car passenger train. Photographed at Mitchell, Illinois, June 30, 1951. This is an early F3 with Type I side panels. It is fitted with a steam generator for passenger-car heating, a freight pilot, and only a single headlight.
trolleyboy 02-03-2008, 1:53 AM and 02-03-2008, 2:00 AM: Darn...! I missed the pics! Only wee red crosses now.
EricX2000 02-03-2008, 6:20 AM: Interesting pics indeed!
trolleyboy 02-04-2008, 3:54 AM: Interesting pics, what are they doing and where AND why?
DL - UK 02-04-2008, 6:17 PM: Excellent post!
1884 map of the Pennsylvania, Reading and Lehigh Valley Railroads
DD1 02-04-2008, 6:24 PM: Great post!
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Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house
Good old Lars. He puts so much energy into everything he does. Came in loaded for bear and true to character went out with a bang. One thing for certain though, he's going to continue to monitor the thread. Betcha a million bucks he's reading this right now. Hi Lars. You haven't been gone long enough for me to miss you yet but Tom seems to kind of got the blues already. Take your time, but hurry back. By the way, thank you for supporting the troops with the ribbon in your signature line. One of them is my nephew-in-law, married to my niece, serving in Iraq with the Maryland National Guard. They got little kids who can't quite figure out where Daddy disappeared to.
Here's a video clip about Domes
http://www.chinaconcepts.net/video/domecarmagic01op.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2baVBWMJ0Os
Friday's Grin
Reason "things" happen!
Law of Location: No matter where you go, there you are.
Not much to say - you know the "drill" . . . .
CONTEST closes on Monday . . .
Thursday - Feb 14th: <all times Central standard>
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Page 184 - CM3 Shane (coalminer3) at 12:58 PM.
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Friday - Feb 15th:
Page 184 - Eric (EricX2000) at 12:43 A.M.
Page 184 - Fergie (Fergmiester) at 5:13 AM.
Reminder: Ruth has the bar from 9 AM until Leon the Night Man comes in at 5 PM ‘til closing.
TODAY is Pizza ‘n Beer Nite! - and - Steak ‘n Fries Nite!
Saturday is Steak ‘n All The Trimmings Nite!
Dinner begins at 5 PM so come early ‘n often!
Cindy is our Saturday bartender!
Boris, serve ‘em all of the "spiked" OJ they can handle!
Tom
Good Morning Captain Tom and Sundry!
I'll have a Western to go please and thanks
Larsman... What can I say... Though short our relationship I have noticed you have been a major contributor in this here fine establishment and I know your absence will have a major impact. So sir my hat is off to you! And a hefty round of Kieth's to all so we may raise a toast in your honour.
Well this is exam day for me as I finish up my 2 week Rescue Specialist course which will free up a whole lotta time for ... dare I say it... house painting #%$&^ I hate to paint!!!
Anyway after studying the body's circulatory system yet again I am now wondering (once again) on how I can re-arrange the the MESS. If I do so it will no longer be the MESS it will be the Super MESS!
And Finally put me down for March 21st and I believe it to be our beloved Capt'n Tom who will hit our Milestone.
Later All
Fergie
http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5959
If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Leon, a number 5 Special Dual Double Combo and a cold Keith's, please! Round for the house!
Some things to study and discuss here tonight.
Tom – I’ve had about 30 different cars in my life and my very favorite was my Pontiac Grand Prix SE, 1989. It had everything!!! I had it for two years, but sold it when I moved here. Hope you had a wonderful date with Helga!!! Did she come along to Oslo? Did you tell Manager Lars? This is getting more and more interesting!Thanks for re-posting Lars’ old post with the article on Dome cars and their history! I can understand that the dome area was regarded a non-revenue area. Interesting!Email received and responded to.Mike – ‘56 Dodge hardtop were very good looking cars! My very favorite when it comes to good looking cars is De Soto hardtop 1958!!! Thanks for all links! Older photos of regular trains and Valentine railroad ads! Lars – It is a sad day here at the bar today! No matter what, you will always be the Manager! And I hope we will see you every now and then even in the future!A bunch of interesting books, as usual! I’ll pick Southern Pacific Historic Diesels. I think it says volume 6. It is sad to read the second part of your post but I understand that you have to do what you have to do. Thanks for the nice words! We will do our best to train the new Manager, but you will always be the Senior Manager of this place! I am sure Rob will do a great job though. Looking forward to see you as often as possible in the future! My best to you and the Mrs! Ruth just told me that she has asked for a raise so she can fly out to the east coast more often! I wonder why? Hmmm. By the way, you have to keep an eye on the number of pages and post when page #200 is due, so I’ll win the contest. CM3 – Interesting driving? I guess that is one way to say it. One inch of snow is not bad though. Detcord? I’ll remember to ask about it in May. Pete – As I mentioned yesterday, IRM has one interurban sleeping car. I think that is the only one left. The acceleration demonstrations with the Rc1 was fun. It is amazing how fast those locomotives can accelerate! Nice photos! Where did you take the picture of the UP Dome car?Rob – Seems like you had a good time at the Second Class Saloon! I heard that Vito would like to hire Manager Lars as the new Second Class Saloon manager!
Heading for Albany, NY.Eric
Good evening Leon my good man.Nice heart shaped bowtie and matching cumberbun a gift from Hilda you say,your a luckey man she isn't always that giving. I think I'll sample some of Copperkettles fish n chips what the heck some mushy peas as well Boris likes it when I give mine to him,I think a nice Keith's to wash it down with. Here's some extra for a round for the rest of Daboyz as well
First off a hearty good bye and god speed for the Larsman and his family. I can only barely fill his slippers, never his shoes. It's been an honour to interact with you,I wish we coulda met,might still Anytime that you have for us will be well welcomed and anticipated when you can. A five salute for you da bars greatest customer.
Tom-What can I say you were able to manouver outta the date,howeevr as Pete has noticed the girls think they are more sought after now than ever. I just have to say that the second calss will no longer be the same,not a dry eye left in that house ( Helga's new perfume O'de pepper spray )Not many left standing a swell. typical for the girls they satyrted and finished a brawl,even Mountain man Mike was in tears. I had lost sight of Nick in the melee last I saw him he was flying towards the fire exit amidst the debris and tangled limbs,still clutching his pint which was amazingly unspilled Looks as though Vito and his Boyz may be buying and renovating the second class,that's the word in the alley anyway.
I'm glad to see Lar's dome post again today a fitting tribute to he who loves the domes the most
In an completely unrealated note,I heard today that teh NHL is contemplating another big outdoor game next year. The odd's on favourite is to put ice into Soldier field in Chicago and teh game wll be the Blackhawks and the Redwings , won't that be a sight if it happens.
Pete-I think you will find alot of those old SW's had those leftover from steam days style headlights with the loco number on them. theer was that timeframe when the railroad pundits deemed that switchers were the only viable use for diesel engines ,times do change.As rough as that unit looks those old 567 series diesels were tough nuts to crack,properly maintained they will out last the locomotive.
I can't imagine what Liverpool and the other big shipbuilding centre in the UK must be like now.Amazing as to how many of those old firms are gone or drastically smaller scale than they were not sixty years ago. When you think that in the earlier part of the century those slipways were turning out Battleships and ocean liners faster than they could be crewed. I suppose alot like parts of Pennsylvania where the steel mills have come and gone,at one point with those industries it ws unthinkable that they could fail and fade away.
great dome shot BTW
Eric-Thanks for the info on those Swedish state railway electrics,not at all supprising the speed at which they do pick up speed. Even operating our cars at the museum it's amazing as to how fast they get up and go.
Mike-Some good and on side urls as always
Cm3-What ho, isn't just neat how Mike was able to pull those old baseball urls out of his magic bag of urls.
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