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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 9, 2006 12:27 PM
G'day!

Something of interest about the MONON:

QUOTE: Timeline

1847: The New Albany & Salem Railroad is organized with James Brooks as president.

1854: The NA&S trackage stretches from the Ohio River (at New Albany) to the Great
Lakes (at Michigan City).
1859: The overextended and struggling NA&S is reorganized as the Louisville, New Albany & Chicago Railroad.

April 30, 1865: The LNA&C becomes one of twenty railroads to haul Abraham Lincoln's funeral train, from Lafayette, Indiana to Michigan City, Indiana.

1881: The LNA&C consolidates with the Indianapolis & Chicago Air Line, and the trackage of the new division is soon extended to reach into its namesake cities.

July 1, 1897: The LNA&C is reorganized as the Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville Railway Co.

1932: The 300 pound (136 kg) Monon Bell is first presented as the trophy of the annual football matchup between DePauw University and Wabash College.

1946: John W. Barriger III becomes President of the Monon, bringing aggressive plans for modernization.

January 11, 1956: The CI&L officially adopts its longtime nickname, Monon, as corporate title.

1959: The Monon's passenger service between Chicago, Illinois and Indianapolis, Indiana is discontinued.

September 30, 1967: Final day of regularly-scheduled passenger train service on the Monon.

July 31, 1971: The Monon is merged into the Louisville and Nashville Railroad.

1999: Portions of the line were converted to a bicycle and pedestrian trail known as the Monon Trail in Indianapolis, and later in Carmel, Indiana. Further expansion in Hamilton County, Indiana is planned.
from: Wikimedia.com

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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, March 9, 2006 10:15 AM
G'day Tom

Still no 20 FIngers[?] Strange, since we "saw" him "out & about" yesterday ....

A little something from me for the MONON:

MONON herald


MONON at Linden RR museum 2005 (Creative Commons) photo: Steve Lamb


See ya at the bar![tup]

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, March 9, 2006 6:50 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #59

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville - Monon (The Hoosier Line)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage in 1950: 573

Locomotives in 1951

Diesel: 57

Rolling stock in 1951:

Freight cars: 2,609
Passenger cars: 59

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Indianapolis
Louisville-Michigan City
Wallace Junction-Midland
Orleans-French Lick

Passenger trains of note:

Bluegrass (Chicago-Louisville)
Chicago Limited (Indianpolis-Chicago)
Day Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Daylight Limited (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Executive (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier Limited (Chicago-French Lick)
Night Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Thoroughbred (Chicago-Louisville)
Tippecanoe (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Varsity (Chicago-Bloomington)
Velvet Train (Chicago-Cincinnati)
Mid-Night Special (Chicago-Cincinnati)

Of note:
Trains east of Indianapolis handled by Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton
Monon operated on Chicago & Western Indiana tracks between Hammond and Dearborn Station.
Monon operated on Kentucky & Indiana Terminal tracks between New Albany-Youngstown Yard-Union Station.


Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 6:35 PM
Good Evening!

Switching gears . . . .

Germany: ICE Train (GNU Free Documentation)


Thanx for stopping by BK 'n Lars!! Great Pix of that Reading diesel![tup]

Later!

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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 2:19 PM
Hi Tom

Just stopped by after visiting the bar - and am I ever surprised! Thank you!![tup][tup][tup]

I see Bk has gotten here ahead of me - again![swg]

Here's a meager contribution from me, theme or not:

Reading: F7A 271 (1978) (from: www.readingrailroad.org)


Until the next time!

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Posted by BudKarr on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 11:54 AM
Greetings Captain Tom!

Rather lonely over here without Sir Al, eh[?] Look at the bright side - no page filling "dumps of data!!"[swg]

About the only thing I know (or knew) about the Reading is that when playing the board game called Monopoly, that is one of the four railroads on the board! Not much on the passenger side, I would surmize, but probably very busy in coal country.

Must get back to my chores - just wanted to stop by the bar and am elated about Lars! Great choice![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:10 AM
Good Morning!

Lonely around here - but just in case Al - Lars or BK stops by, check this out!


Reading Lines railway map (1923)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:14 AM
Good Morning!

PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #58

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Reading Lines

Headquarters: Philadelphia, PA

Mileage in 1950: 1,286

Locomotives in:

1930:
Steam: 930
Diesel: 2 (box cab switchers)

1963:
Steam 4
Diesel: 337

Rolling stock in

1930:
Freight cars: 43,298
Passenger cars: 910 (includes MU self-propelled)

1975:
Freight cars: 12,213
Passenger cars: 176 (includes MU self-propelled and RDCs)

Principal routes in 1950:

Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York via ferries, floats)
Philadelphia-Bethlehem, PA
Philadelphia-Reading, PA
Philadelphia & Camden-Atlantic City, NJ
Manville-Port Reading, NJ
Reading-Harrisburg, PA
Reading-Allentown, PA
Reading-Newberry Jct. (Williamsport), PA
Reading-Wilmington, DE
Harrisburg-Hagerstown, MD (through arrangement Hagerstown-Lurgan, PA)

Passenger trains of note:

Crusader (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Wall Street (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Schuylkill (Philadelphia-Pottsville, PA)
King Coal (Philadelphia-Shamokin, PA)
Harrisburg Special (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg
Queen of the Valley (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg)
North Penn (Philadelphia-Bethlehem


Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:11 PM
Evenin' Lars 'n BK

Nice selection, Lars[tup] - appreciate your stopping by, BK!

Check out this, perhaps one of the most familiar of the British steamers:

Great Britain: LMS Royal Scot Class 6100 Royal Scot(Public Domain)


Later![tup]

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Posted by BudKarr on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:11 PM
G'day Captain Tom!

Thought I would pay a call on you over here, as things are rather quiet in both places.

Nice pix from the two of you and the past several nostalgia pieces have been educational as well.[tup]

I am heading over to the bar, so until then!

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Posted by LoveDomes on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 1:45 PM
Hello Tom

Nice loco .... we need to get Pete back here! Speaking of - check this one out:

British: 60532 Peppercorn Class A2 "Blue Peter" (Wikimedia Commons)


I think I'll use this for our next Sunday Pix Day at the bar . . . .

Quiet around here without 20 Fingers! Hope he recovers quickly - it just ain't the same without him to pick on![swg]

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:16 AM
G'day!

Take a look at this fine machine from the other side of the "pond" . . .

Great Britain: LMS Stainer Class 5 4-6-0 45110 at Bridgnorth (Wikimedia Commons)


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:20 AM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #60

Here’s something to enjoy regarding Great Britain’s L M S and L*N*E*R in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:

BRING HISTORY TO LIFE IN ENGLAND

Visit ancient York with its 1300-year old Minster; and Durham where likes the Venerable Bede, who died as he dictated the last words of the first translation of the Bible. Wander through the historic streets of Lincoln – headquarters of a Roman Legion during the Occupation – and Norwich, once the second city of England and still preserving many relics of medieval times. Visit Litchfield Cathedral renowned for its three beautiful spires, and put yourself back in the Middle Ages at Warwick Castle. See the old walls and picturesque streets of Chester. Look down from the battlements of those might castles that Edward I built at Caernarvon and Conway, and see what a task he had to conquer heroic Wales.

Every country of Great Britain speaks to you of your own ancestors. Travel through those countries by L M S and L N E R to the places you must have longed to see every since you first read a history book.

Illustrated Pamphlet from T. R. Dexter –
Vice-President, Passenger Traffic, (Dept. A 34)
L M S Corporation, 200 Fifth Avenue, New York City.
H. J. Kitchgin, General Agent, (Dept. A 34)
L N E R Railway, 11 West 42nd Street, New York City,
or from your own ticket agent.


L M S
LONDON MIDLAND & SCOTTISH RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN

LONDON & NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY OF GREAT BRITAIN
L*N*E*R


Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, March 6, 2006 6:37 PM
Hi Lars

Didn't want to say this over at the bar ... but cut 20 Fingers some slack, Mate. He's under the weather, and it shows. Haven't really had much from him since late last week - at least not in the "two way conversational way."

Anyway, good to see ya again and appreciate the support on both threads![tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, March 6, 2006 6:26 PM
Hey Tom . . .

Just took a breather from the party over at the bar! I think things will start moving now that it's after working hours. Just my guess.

Nice Amtrak shot .....

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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, March 6, 2006 4:38 PM
G'day!

No "theme" today, so here's something to enjoy!

Amtrak Empire Builder (2002) (www.trainweb.com)



Reminder for "Our" Place customers - Nick's Birthday Bash! is currently underway![tup]

Later![tup]

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Posted by LoveDomes on Monday, March 6, 2006 12:34 PM
Hey Al

Aren't you coming over to the bar for Nick's B'day Bash?????

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, March 6, 2006 10:58 AM
NEW YORK
CENTRAL

The NYC owned the largest fleet of lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars in the United States.
The first lightweight streamlined sleeping cars for the NYC were for the premier train off the road the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED. Many rail historians and the traveling public felt the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED was the most famous train in the country and one of the most famous in the world. The streamlined all Pullman extra fare TWENTIETH CENURY LIMITED was inaugurated June 15, 1938 on a fast 16 hour schedule between Chicago and New York along the famous water level route. As built the 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITEDS were actually four trains of 14-cars each with spare Dining and Sleeping cars. The NYC received ten brand new stream-lined Hudson Locomotives and Tenders assigned to speed the CENTURY between Harmon and Chicago painted to match the trailing consist. Between Grand Central Station New York and Harmon the NYC assigned third rail pick up electric locomotives to the trains. With enough equipment for four trains passenger riding the second section of the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED could rest assured they were riding identical equipment as the first section provided. On dates that all four trains were not operated in TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED service the cars ran as the COMMODORE VANDERBILT the number two all Pullman trains between Chicago and New York. After WW II the cars would be assigned to the COMMODORE VANDERBILT when the new postwar light-weight streamlined TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED entered service.
A sample 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED consist is listed below.

5445 J3A 4-6-4 Streamlined Hudson Locomotive & Tender

5017 Baggage 60' Railway Post Office Car

CENTURY CLUB 18 Crew Dormitory Barber Shop Bar 30Seat Lounge Car

CITY OF DAYTON
17 Roomette Sleeping Car

CASCADE DAWN
10 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

ONANDAGA COUNTY 13 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE GLORY
10 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL CANYON
4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

680 38 Seat Dining Car

IMPERIAL CASTLE
4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

IMPERIAL FALLS
4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

DUCHESS COUNTY
13 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CASCADE VIEW
10 Roomette 5 Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

CITY OF DETROIT
17 Roomette Sleeping Car

MANHATTAN ISLAND 1 Double Bedroom 1 Master Room Bar 22 Seat Lounge 10 Seat Lounge Observation

The trains provided 216 passengers with a fast overnight trip between Chicago and New York in that most famous of all trains the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED.
The paint scheme for this train was light gray overall with a dark blue window band with two white stripes centered in the window band. Two additional white stripes separated the window band from the gray at both top and bottom. NYC management felt this scheme to gaudy for a train of the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITEDS prestige and it was never repeated. The following is a list of those cars built for the 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED.

BAGGAGE 60' RAILWAY POST OFFICE CARS Pullman Standard May 1938 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

5017 - 5020

18 CREW DORMITORY BARBER SHOP BUFFET 26 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Pullman Standard May 1938 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

CENTURY CLUB

CENTURY INN

CENTURY LOUNGE

CENTURY TAVERN

17 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard March - April 1938 Plan: 4068E Lot: 6539 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

CITY OF ALBANY

CITY OF BOSTON

CITY OF BUFFALO

CITY OF CHICAGO

CITY OF CLEVELAND

CITY OF DAYTON

CITY OF DETROIT

CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS

CITY OF ROCHESTER

CITY OF TOLEDO

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April 1938 Plan: 4072A Lot: 6542 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

CASCADE DAWN

CASCADE GLADE

CASCADE GLEN

CASCADE GLORY

CASCADE GROTTO

CASCADE RIPPLE

CASCADE ROCKS

CASCADE SPIRIT

CASCADE VALE

CASCADE VALLEY

CASCADE VIEW

CASCADE WOODS

KITCHEN PANTRY 38 SEAT DINING CARS Pullman Standard May 1938 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

680 - 685

13 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April 1938 Plan: 4071A Lot: 6541 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

COOK COUNTY

CUYAHOGA COUNTY

DUTCHESS COUNTY

LUCAS COUNTY

MONROE COUNTY

NIAGARA COUNTY

ONANDAGA COUNTY

WESTCHESTER COUNTY

4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard March - April 1938 Plan: 4069B Lot: 6540 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

IMPERIAL ARCH

IMPERIAL BAY

IMPERIAL CANYON

IMPERIAL CASTLE

IMPERIAL CHATEAU

IMPERIAL COURT

IMPERIAL FALLS

IMPERIAL FOREST

IMPERIAL FOUNTAIN

IMPERIAL GARDEN

IMPERIAL HIGHLANDS

IMPERIAL HOUSE

IMPERIAL MANSION

IMPERIAL PALACE

1 DOUBLE BEDROOM 1 MASTER ROOM BUFFET 22 SEAT LOUNGE 10 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard May 1938 Plan: 4079 Lot: 6547 (Built for and assigned to 1938 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

BEDLOES ISLAND

MANHATTAN ISLAND

PELEE ISLAND

THOUSAND ISLANDS

These sixty-two cars comprised the first four lightweight streamlined TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITEDS.
The NYC turned their attention to the SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED in 1939 with the addition of streamlined sleeping cars to the three consists necessary for daily operation. At the same time it was felt there was enough lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars to replace the heavyweights in the COMMODORE VANDERBILTS as well. Dining and head end cars remained heavyweights.

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard June 1939 Plan: 4072B Lot: 6565 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILTS)

CASCADE ELF

CASCADE FAUN

CASCADE GREEN

CASCADE LANE

CASCADE MARBLE

CASCADE MIST

CASCADE MOON

CASCADE RAINBOW

18 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard June - July 1939 Plan: 4068H Lot: 6570 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDRBILTS)

CITY OF ANN ARBOR


CITY OF LANSING

CITY OF PITTSFIELD

CITY OF SOUTH BEND

CITY OF SPRINGFIELD

CITY OF SYRACUSE

CITY OF UTICA

CITY OF WORCESTER

13 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard July 1939 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILTS)

DEKALB COUNTY

ELKHART COUNTY

ERIE COUNTY

HERKIMER COUNTY

ONEIDA COUNTY

SANDUSKY COUNTY

1 COMPARTMENT 2 DOUBLE BEDROOM 1 DRAWING ROOM BUFFET 26 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard July 1939 Plan: 4082 Lot: 6567 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED)

GENESSEE RIVER

MAUMEE RIVER

WABASH RIVER

4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard July - August 1939 Plan: 4069D Lot: 6571 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILT)

IMPERIAL CHAMBER

IMPERIAL ESTATE

IMPERIAL JEWEL

IMPERIAL MOUNTAIN

IMPERIAL QUEEN

IMPERIAL SCEPTRE

IMPERIAL SOVEREIGN

IMPERIAL STATE

IMPERIAL VALLEY

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET Pullman Standard September 1939 Plan: 4086 Lot: 6573 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILTS)

BUTTERMILK FALLS

CHITTENANGO FALLS

COPAKE FALLS

CROTON FALLS

GENESEE FALLS

RAQUETTE FALLS

The SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED was assigned the three RIVER series Sleeper Lounge Observations, it and the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED held the distinction of being the only New York Central trains assigned streamlined Sleeper Lounge Observations prior to WW II. The RIVER series Observations were assigned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED for the duration of WW II while the ISLAND series observations built for the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED were stored for the duration of the war. They were stored after a war department memo advised the railroads to discontinue all sleeping car routes of less than 400 miles. It further stated that lounge cars and cars with less than five sleeping accommodations. The CENTURY lounges were saved from this rule as they had the Crew Dormitory space. The ISLAND series Observations with only 1 Double Bedroom and 1 Master Room were sent to storage for the duration.
Additional lightweight streamlined sleeping cars were delivered to the NYC in 1940; these cars were assigned to the All-Pullman DETROITER between New York and Detroit, the OHIO STATE LIMITED between New York and Cincinnati and the WOLVERINE between New York and Chicago by way of Detroit. None of these trains received any streamlined head end cars or Dining cars; all other cars were heavyweights at this time. The DETROITER was not even assigned Dining cars as the train was scheduled to depart from either terminal after the dinner hour with arrival at the opposite terminal at the beginning of the breakfast hour. The new streamlined sleeping cars of 1940 were combined with the earlier streamlined sleeping cars delivered to the NYC for the SOUTHWEST LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILT pool creating a larger pool of cars for these trains to draw from. The cars assigned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED were never compromised they remained for exclusive assignment to that train only. Occasionally one of the sleeping cars from the regular streamlined sleeping car pool would be assigned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED for a trip while one of the regularly assigned sleeping cars was being shopped. The following is a list of the 1940 sleeping cars delivered to the NYC.

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard June - July 1940 Plan: 4072C Lot: 661- (Built for and assigned to DETROITER - OHIO STATE LIMITED - WOLVERINE pool initially)

CASCADE CHANNEL

CASCADE CRYSTALS

CASCADE RUN

CASCADE SPRAY

CASCADE SPRINGS

CASCADE STREAM

CASCADE SUMMIT

CASCADE TORRENT

CASCADE WATERS

CASCADE WAVES

CASCADE WHIRL

CASCADE WHISPER

CASCADE WONDER

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 24 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Pullman Standard August - September 1940 Plan: 4086B Lot: 6612 (Built for and assigned to DETROITER - OHIO STATE LIMITED - WOLVERINE pool initially)

BENNINGTON FALLS

CHICOPEE FALLS

COOKS FALLS

ESSEX FALLS

HONEOYE FALLS

HOPE FALLS

HORSESHOE FALLS

KEZAR FALLS

MAHOPAC FALLS

SHELBURNE FALLS

STUYVESANT FALLS

WAPPINGERS FALLS

18 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September 1940 Plan: 4068J Lot: 6616 (Built for and assigned to DETROITER - OHIO STATE LIMITED - WOLVERINE pool)

CITY OF KALAMAZOO

CITY OF PEORIA

CITY OF POUGHKEEPSIE

CITY OF SCHENECTADY

CITY OF TROY

CITY OF YONKERS

4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September - October 1940 Plan: 4069E Lot: 6617 (Built for and assigned to DETROITER - OHIO STATE LIMITED - WOLVERINE initially)

IMPERIAL CARRIAGE

IMPERIAL CHARIOT

IMPERIAL CITY

IMPERIAL CROWN

IMPERIAL DOMAIN

IMPERIAL DOME

IMPERIAL EMBLEM

IMPERIAL EMPIRE

IMPERIAL FLEET

IMPERIAL MAJESTY

IMPERIAL TEMPLE

13 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October 1940 Plan: 4071C Lot: 6618 (Built for and assigned to DETROITER - OHIO STATE LIMITED - WOLVERINE initially)

ASHTABULA COUNTY

HAMPDEN COUNTY

LA PORTE COUNTY

LORAIN COUNTY

MONTGOMERY COUNTY

NOBLE COUNTY

WASHTENAW COUNTY

WAYNE COUNTY


With the addition of the 1940 lightweight streamlined sleeping cars this gave the NYC 138 total at the beginning of WW II. Of those 134 performed yeoman service for their owner during the war while the Four ISLAND series Sleeper Lounge Observations were stored. In July 1946 the Four ISLAND series cars were rebuilt by Pullman into 4 Double Bedroom Buffet 26 seat Lounge Observations. At that time they were returned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED, with the RIVER series Sleeper Lounge Observations then being returned to the SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED. Beginning September 15, 1948 a new TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED entered service between New York and Chicago the ISLAND series cars were then assigned to the ADVANCE COMMODORE VANDERBILT and COMMODORE VANDERBILT. The new 1948 TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED editions were assigned new CREEK series sleeper Lounge Observations.
Following WW II the NYC placed huge orders with Pullman Standard, Budd and American Car & Foundry for passenger cars. All of the Budd built cars were stainless steel, while painted steel cars were delivered to the NYC by the other two builders. Both Budd and Pullman Standard built sleeping cars, Dining, Lounge, Coaches, and Observation cars. All of the prewar trains that had received streamlined sleeping cars before the war would receive new cars in 1948. Certain of those trains the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED, DETROITER, WOLVERINE, ADVANCE COMMODORE VANDERBILT, and COMMODORE VANDERBILT would receive Pullman built painted steel sleeping cars. Other overnight trains such as the NEW ENGLAND STATES, OHIO STATE LIMITED and SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED would be assigned Budd stainless steel cars. Those cars built for specific assignment to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED were equipped with an electrical breaking system that was never actually used in service. The cars built specifically for the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED pool are listed separately from other cars of the same type.

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 23 SEAT HIGH WINDOWED LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard August - September 1948 Plan: 4126 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED)

HICKORY CREEK

SANDY CREEK

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September 1948 - March 1949 Plan: 4123 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED - WOLVERINE - DETROITER - CLEVELAND LIMITED - COMMODORE VANDERBILT and lesser trains)

TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED

CALUMET RIVER

CASS RIVER

CHATEAUGAY RIVER

CHICAGO RIVER

CLINTON RIVER

CONNECTICUT RIVER

PASSAIC RIVER

PECOS RIVER

PENOBSCOT RIVER

PERCH RIVER

PLATTE RIVER

POWDER RIVER

CARS BUILT FOR OTHER THAN CENTURY

AGAWAM RIVER

ALLEGHENNY RIVER

AMAZON RIVER

AROOSTOOK RIVER

AUSABLE RIVER

BEAVER RIVER

BLANCHARD RIVER

BONNE FEMME RIVER

BOURBOIS RIVER

BRONX RIVER

CHICOPEE RIVER

CROTON RIVER

CURRENT RIVER

DEER RIVER

DES MOINES RIVER

DES PLAINES RIVERS

DETROIT RIVER

EAST RIVER

ELKHART RIVER

FARMINGTON RIVER

FEATHER RIVER

GILA RIVER

GRASS RIVER

HARLEM RIVER

HOCKING RIVER

HOUSATONIC RIVER

HUDSON RIVER

HURON RIVER

ILLINOIS RIVER

INDIAN RIVER

IROQUOISE RIVER

KALAMAZOO RIVER

KANKAKEE RIVER

KINGS RIVER

LICKING RIVER

LITTLE FOX RIVER

LITTLE MIAMI RIVER

LITTLE OSAGE RIVER

MAHONING RIVER

MANISTEE RIVER

MERRIMACK RIVER

MIAMI RIVER

MONONGAHELA RIVER

MUSKINGUM RIVER

MYSTIC RIVER

NEPONSET RIVER

NESHANNOCK RIVER

NIAGARA RIVER

NIANTIC RIVER

NORTH RIVER

OSWEGATCHIE RIVER

OSWEGO RIVER

OTTAWA RIVER

PORTAGE RIVER

RAISIN RIVER

ROANOKE RIVER

ROCKY RIVER

RONDOUT RIVER

ROUGE RIVER

SABINE RIVER

SACANDAGA RIVER

ST. CLAIR RIVER

ST. CROIX RIVER

ST. FRANCIS RIVER

ST. JOSEPH RIVER

ST. LAWRENCE RIVER

ST. MARYS RIVER

ST. REGIS RIVER

SALMON RIVER

SANGAMON RIVER

SAUGUS RIVER

SCIOTO RIVER

SHENANGO RIVER

SPARKLING RIVER

STILLWATER RIVER

SWAN RIVER

THAMES RIVER

THORNAPPLE RIVER

TIFFIN RIVER

TIPPECANOE RIVER

TRINITY RIVER

WESTFIELD RIVER

WHITEWATER RIVER

WILLAMETTE RIVER

WINDING RIVER

22 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard September - October 1948 Plan: 4122 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to General Service)

BIRCH BAY

CAMINADA BAY

CAPE COD BAY

CASCO BAY

CHAUMONT BAY

CHESAPEAKE BAY

CHIPPEWA BAY

DELAWARE BAY

DORCAS BAY

DORCHESTER BAY

GARDINERS BAY

GREAT PECONIC BAY

GREAT SOUTH BAY

HAVERSTRAW BAY

HUMBER BAY

HUNTINGTON BAY

JAMAICA BAY

JAMES BAY

LITTLE NECK BAY

MANHASSET BAY

MEXICO BAY

MOBILE BAY

MONTEREY BAY

NAHANT BAY

NEW YORK BAY

PEEKSKILL BAY

PIGEON BAY

QUINCY BAY

RARITAN BAY

SAGINAW BAY

SANDUSKY BAY

SANDY HOOK BAY

SHEEPSHEAD BAY

SMITHTOWN BAY

SODUS BAY

STURGEON BAY


TAMPA BAY

TAWAS BAY

THREE MILE BAY

THUNDER BAY

TRAVERSE BAY

THUNDER BAY

WILD FOWL BAY

WILLOUGHBY BAY


6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 22 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Pullman Standard December 1948 - March 1949 Plan: 4124 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to General Service)

BIG MOOSE LAKE

CAYUGA LAKE

CRANBERRY LAKE

MIRROR LAKE

ONEIDA LAKE

OTISCO LAKE

OTSEGO LAKE

OTTER LAKE

RAQUETTE LAKE

SARANAC LAKE

SENECA LAKE

SILVER LAKE

SKANEATELES LAKE

TROUT LAKE

TUPPER LAKE

WALTON LAKE

12 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard April - May 1949 Plan: 4125 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED - DETROITER - COMMODORE VANDERBILT - CLEVELAND LIMITED - WOLVERINE pool)

TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED

PORT OF ALBANY

PORT OF BOSTON

PORT OF BUFFALO

PORT BYRON

PORT CHESTER

PORT OF CHICAGO

PORT CLINTON

PORT OF DETROIT

PORT LAWRENCE

PORT OF NEW YORK

PORT OF OSWEGO

PORT OF WINDSOR

GENERAL SERVICE POOL

PORT OF LEWISTON

PORT ORANGE

The following lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars were built by Budd for operation in the NYC NEW ENGLAND STATES, OHIO STATE LIMITED and SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED. Those Budd built sleeping cars not assigned to those specific trains operated in the general service pool in lesser trains.

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Budd Company December 1948 - January 1949 (Built for and assigned to NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED - SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED and General Service)

MINNESOTA VALLEY

MISSOURI VALLEY

MOHAWK VALLEY

MORNING VALLEY

NAVAJO VALLEY

ONONDAGA VALLEY

ORCHARD VALLEY

PEACEFUL VALLEY

PEACH VALLEY

PINE VALLEY

PUTNAM VALLEY

ROUND VALLEY

SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY

SCHOHARIE VALLEY

SKYLAND VALLEY

SONOMA VALLEY

TULLY VALLEY

YOSEMITE VALLEY

ZOAR VALLEY

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Budd Company January - March 1949 Plan: 9502 Lot: 9662-023 (Built for and assigned to NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED - SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED and General Service)

CANARY VALLEY

CARIBOU VALLEY

CASTLE VALLEY

CEDAR VALLEY

CENTRAL VALLEY

CHAGRIN VALLEY

CHAMPLAIN VALLEY

CHERRY VALLEY

CUMBERLAND VALLEY

EDEN VALLEY

EVENTIDE VALLEY

GENESEE VALLEY

HAPPY VALLEY

HUNTING VALLEY

KEENE VALLEY

KEUKA VALLEY

KLAMATH VALLEY

LEBANON VALLEY

MAPLE VALLEY

MAUMEE VALLEY

MEADOW VALLEY

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 22 SEAT LOUNGE CARS Budd Company March - May 1949 Plan: 9505 Lot: 9663 - 023 (Built for and assigned to NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED - SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED and General Service)

BOULDER STREAM

CRYSTAL STREAM

FOREST STREAM

GULF STREAM

LAUREL STREAM

MOUNTAIN STREAM

RAINBOW STREAM

RAPID STREAM

RIPPLING STREAM

SWIFT STREAM

WOODLAND STREAM

22 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard Budd April - June 1949 Plan: 4125 Lot: 6790 (Built for and assigned to NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED - SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED and General Service)

ALBANY HARBOR

ASHTABULA HARBOR

BAR HARBOR

BENTON HARBOR

BOOTHBAY HARBOR

BOSTON HARBOR

BUFFALO HARBOR

CAPE VINCENT HARBOR

CHARLOTTE HARBOR

CHEBOYGAN HARBOR

CLEVELAND HARBOR

CONNEAUT HARBOR

DUNKIRK HARBOR

ERIE HARBOR

FAIRPORT HARBOR

GARY HARBOR

HENDERSON HARBOR

HOME HARBOR

INDIANA HARBOR

MACKINAC HARBOR

MICHIGAN CITY HARBOR

MONROE HARBOR

OAK HARBOR

OGDENSBURG HARBOR

SACKETTS HARBOR

SOUTH HAVEN HARBOR

TARRYTOWN HARBOR

TOLEDO HARBOR

TONAWANDA HARBOR

VERMILION HARBOR

YORK HARBOR

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Budd Company May - June 1949 Plan: 9506 Lot: 9664 - 023 (Built for and assigned to NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED)

NEW ENGLAND STATES

BABBLING BROOK

BONNIE BROOK

OHIO STATE LIMITED

FALL BROOK

PLUM BROOK

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT HIGH WINDOWED LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Budd Company June - July 1949 Plan: 9508 Lot: 9636-023 (Built for and assigned to SOUTHWESTERN LIMITED)

SINGING BROOK

SUNRISE BROOK

WINGATE BROOK

In 1949 the New York Central renamed fourteen prewar IMPERIAL prefix named cars to BRIDGE suffix names and assigned the cars to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED pool of cars. It is likely these cars were refurbished at the same time as they were renamed as follows.

APRIL 1949

BAY BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL FALLS

MAY 1949

BROOKLYN BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL HOUSE

EADS BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL HIGHLANDS

HENRY HUDSON BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL CANYON

HIGH BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL MANSION

INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL CHATEAU

QUEENBORO BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL BAY

THOUSAND ISLANDS BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL PALACE

JUNE 1949

GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL FOREST

TRI-BORO BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL GARDEN

JULY 1949

SUSPENSION BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL ARCH

AUGUST 1949

RIP VAN WINKLE BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL FOUNTAIN

SEPTEMBER 1949

BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL CASTLE

CASTLETON BRIDGE originally NYC IMPERIAL COURT


One additional IMPERIAL prefix 4 Compartment 2 Drawing Room 4 Double Bedroom sleeping car was renamed and assigned a new IMPERIAL prefix name as follows.

FEBRUARY 1950

IMPERIAL MANOR originally NYC IMPERIAL ESTATE

The NYC received a single Pullman Standard built 5 Double Bedroom Buffet 24 seat high windowed lounge observation in stainless steel in February - March 1950. This car was one of eight built for operation in the Southern CRESCENT and ROYAL PALM. Each of these trains was assigned four with the NYC car assigned to the ROYAL PALM. The other three for this train were owned one by the Southern one by Southern subsidiary CNOT&P and one by the FEC. Since the ROYAL PALM was primarily a winter season train with cars originating in Cleveland, Buffalo, Chicago and Detroit. In fact the Detroit section was the main part of the train along with the sleeper lounge observation. The NYC brought sleeping cars from the above cities to Cincinnati where the ROYAL PALM was assembled into the ROYAL PALM for the trip to Miami. Like the original Sleeper Lounge Observations 400 and 401 built for the Southern Pacific LARK of 1941, NYC ROYAL PALM Sleeper Lounge Observation was destroyed while bringing up the markers of a UP CITY OF LOS ANGELES near Wamsutter Wyoming. The NYC ROYAL CREST was less than a year old at the time it was destroyed. Two UP sleeping cars ahead of ROYAL CREST were destroyed in the same accident AMERICAN BORDER and PACIFIC EMPIRE.

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 24 SEAT HIGH WINDOWED LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS Pullman Standard February - March 1950 Plan: 4162 Lot: 6814 (Built for and assigned to CRESCENT and ROYAL PALM)

ROYAL PALM
NYC

ROYAL CREST

SOU

2301 ROYAL COURT

CNOT&P

3499 ROYAL PALM

FEC

AZALEA

CRESCENT
SOU

2300 ROYAL ARCH

L&N

3300 ROYAL CANAL

3301 ROYAL STREET

WofA

ROYAL PALACE

Later in 1950 the NYC assigned five digit numbers to all lightweight stream-lined sleeping cars owned by the railroad although these numbers were not actually applied to the cars until after the NYC withdrew the cars from Pullman in 1958. The numbers appear with the car names in the listing that follows.

4 COMPARTMENT 2 DRAWING ROOM 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC IMPERIAL prefix and BRIDGE suffix cars)

10000 IMPERIAL CHARIOT

10001 IMPERIAL SCEPTRE

10002 IMPERIAL SOVEREIGN

10003 IMPERIAL DOMAIN

10004 IMPERIAL JEWEL

10005 IMPERIAL FOUNTAIN

10006 IMPERIAL STATE

10007 IMPERIAL VALLEY

10008 IMPERIAL CITY

10009 IMPERIAL TEMPLE

10010 IMPERIAL CHAMBER

10011 IMPERIAL QUEEN

10012 IMPERIAL FLEET

10013 IMPERIAL DOME

10014 IMPERIAL CARRIAGE

10015 IMPERIAL CROWN

10016 IMPERIAL EMBLEM

10017 IMPERIAL MANOR

10018 IMPERIAL EMPIRE

10019 IMPERIAL MAJESTY

10020 HENRY HUDSON BRIDGE

10021 BEAR MOUNTAIN BRIDGE

10022 BAY BRIDGE

10023 CASTLETON BRIDGE

10024 GEORGE WASHINGTON
BRIDGE

10025 HIGH BRIDGE

10026 QUEENSBORO BRIDGE

10027 THOUSAND ISLANDS BRIDGE

10028 TRI-BORO BRIDGE

10029 SUSPENSION BRIDGE

10030 INTERNATIONAL BRIDGE

10031 RIP VAN WINKLE BRIDGE

10032 EADS BRIDGE

10033 BROOKLYN BRIDGE

10 ROOMETTE 5 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC CASCADE series)

10050 CASCADE ELF

10051 CASCADE RAINBOW

10052 CASCADE STREAM

10053 CASCADE WAVES

10054 CASCADE WONDER

10055 CASCADE DAWN

10056 CASCADE GLORY

10057 CASCADE VIEW

10058 CASCADE SPRINGS

10059 CASCADE TORRENT

10060 CASCADE RIPPLE

10061 CASCADE WOODS

10062 CASCADE VALLEY

10063 CASCADE VALE

10064 CASCADE MIST

10065 CASCADE MOON

10066 CASCADE CRYSTALS

10067 CASCADE RUN

10068 CASCADE SUMMIT

10069 CASCADE WHIRL

10070 CASCADE WHISPER

10071 CASCADE CHANNEL

10072 CASCADE SPRAY

10073 CASCADE FAUN

10074 CASCADE MARBLE

10075 CASCADE LANE

10076 CASCADESPIRIT

10077 CASCADE GLADE

10078 CASCADE GLEN

10079 CASCADE GROTTO

10080 CASCADE ROCKS

10081 CASCADE GREEN

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC VALLEY series)

10100 MOHAWK VALLEY

10101 MORNING VALLEY

10102 NAVAJO VALLEY

10103 ORCHARD VALLEY

10104 ONANDAGA VALLEY

10105 SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY

10106 PEACEFUL VALLEY

10107 PEACH VALLEY

10108 ROUND VALLEY

10109 SCHOHARIE VALLEY

10110 SONOMA VALLEY

10111 EDEN VALLEY

10112 EVENTIDE VALLEY

10113 KEUKA VALLEY

10114 PINE VALLEY

10115 TULLY VALLEY

10116 YOSEMITE VALLEY

10117 ZOAR VALLEY

10118 CANARY VALLEY

10119 CEDAR VALLEY

10120 CHAMPLAIN VALLEY

10121 CARIBOU VALLEY

10122 KLAMATH VALLEY

10123 LEBANON VALLEY

10124 MAUMEE VALLEY

10125 MEADOW VALLEY

10126 CASTLE VALLEY

10127 CENTRALVALLEY

10128 GENESEE VALLEY

10129 KEENE VALLEY

10130 CUMBERLAND VALLEY

10131 HUNTING VALLEY

10132 CHERRY VALLEY

10133 HAPPY VALLEY

10134 CHAGVALLEY

10135 MINNESOT VALLEY

10136 MISSOURI VALLEY

10137 MAPLE VALLEY

10138 SKYLAND VALLEY

10139 PUTNAM VALLEY

10 ROOMETTE 6 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC RIVER series)

10140 CALUMET RIVER

10141 POWDER RIVER

10142 PLATTE RIVER

10143 PORTAGE RIVER

10144 PENOBSCOT RIVER

10145 PERCH RIVER

10146 MUSKINGUMRIVER

10147 MYSTIC RIVER


10148 NEPONSET RIVER

10149 GILA RIVER

10150 GRASS RIVER

10151 FARMINGTON RIVER

10152 MIAMI RIVER

10153 BEAVER RIVER

10154 BLANCHARD RIVER

10155 DES MOINES RIVER

10156 DES PLAINES RIVER

10157 WINDING RIVER

10158 ILLINOIS RIVER

10159 LITTLE FOX RIVER

10160 LITTLE MIAMI RIVER

10161 AGAWAM RIVER

10162 DEER RIVER

10163 LITTLE OSAGE RIVER

10164 DETROIT RIVER

10165 EAST RIVER

10166 MAHONING RIVER

10167 MANISTEE RIVER

10168 ELKHART RIVER

10169 INDIAN RIVER

10170 BRONX RIVER

10171 CURRENT RIVER

10172 BONNE FEMME RIVER

10173 BOURBOIS RIVER

10174 ST. REGIS RIVER

10175 SWAN RIVER

10176 ROUGE RIVER

10177 SABINE RIVER

10178 FEATHER RIVER

10179 NORTH RIVER

10180 NESHANNOCK RIVER

10181 NIANTIC RIVER

10182 THAMES RIVER

10183 RAISIN RIVER

10184 SHENANGO RIVER

10185 SPARKLING RIVER

10186 ST. CLAIR RIVER

10187 ST. CROIX RIVER

10188 ST. FRANCIS RIVER

10189 ST. JOSEPH RIVER

10190 CROTON RIVER

10191 AROOSTOOK RIVER

10192 AUSABLE RIVER

10193 HARLEM RIVER

10194 MONONGAHELA RIVER

10195 ROANOKE RIVER

10196 ROCKY RIVER

10197 LICKING RIVER

10198 MERRIMACK RIVER

10199 CHICOPEE RIVER

10200 CLINTON RIVER

10201 PECOS RIVER

10202 CHATEAUGAY RIVER

10203 CHICAGO RIVER

10204 SACANDAGA RIVER

10205 SALMON RIVER

10206 IROQUOIS RIVER

10207 KALAMAZOO RIVER

10208 ALLEGHENY RIVER

10209 AMAZON RIVER

10210 WESTFIELD RIVER

10211 WHITEWATER RIVER

10212 WILLAMETTE RIVER

10213 HOCKING RIVER

10214 HUDSON RIVER

10215 HURON RIVER

10216 HOUSATONIC RIVER

10217 CONNECTICUT RIVER

10218 NIAGARA RIVER

10219 THORNAPPLE RIVER

10220 CASS RIVER

10221 SANGAMON RIVER

10222 SAUGUS RIVER

10223 SCIOTA RIVER

10224 ST. LAWRENCE RIVER

10225 ST. MARYS RIVER

10226 STILLWATER RIVER

10227 TIFFIN RIVER

10228 TIPPECANOE RIVER

10229 TRINITY RIVER

10230 OSWEGATCHIE RIVER

10231 OSWEGO RIVER

10232 OTTAWA RIVER

10233 KANKAKEE RIVER

10234 KINGS RIVER

10235 PASSAICRIVER

10236 RONDOUT RIVER

17 ROOMETTE & 18 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS (NYC CITY prefix)

10300 CITY OF DAYTON

10301 CITY OF DETROIT

10302 CITY OF ALBANY

10303 CITY OF BOSTON

10304 CITY OF INDIANAPOLIS

10305 CITY OF ROCHESTER

10306 CITY OF CHICAGO

10307 CITY OF CLEVELAND

10308 CITY OF TOLEDO

10309 CITY OF BUFFALO

10310 CITY OF WORCESTER

10311 CITY OF UTICA

10312 CITY OF SPRINGFIELD

10313 CITY OF SYRACUSE

10314 CITY OF ANN ARBOR

10315 CITY OF LANSING

10316 CITY OF PITTSFIELD

10317 CITY OF SOUTH BEND

10318 CITY OF POUGHKEEPSIE

10319 CITY OF SCHENECTADY

10320 CITY OF PEORIA

10321 CITY OF TROY

10322 CITY OF YONKERS

10323 CITY OF KALAMAZOO

22 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS (NYC HARBOR series)

10350 ALBANY HARBOR

10351 ASHTABULA HARBOR

10352 BAR HARBOR

10353 BENTON HARBOR

10354 BOOTH BAY HARBOR

10355 BOSTON HARBOR

10356 BUFFALO HARBOR

10357 CAPE VINCENT HARBOR

10358 CHARLOTTE HARBOR

10359 CHEBOYGAN HARBOR

10360 FAIRPORT HARBOR

10361 GARY HARBOR

10362 CLEVELAND HARBOR

10363 CONNEAUT HARBOR

10364 DUNKIRK HARBOR

10365 ERIE HARBOR

10366 MICHIGAN CITY HARBOR

10367 MONROE HARBOR

10368 HENDERSON HARBOR

10369 HOME HARBOR

10370 INDIANA HARBOR

10371 MACKINAC HARBOR

10372 VERMILION HARBOR

10373 YORK HARBOR

10374 OAK HARBOR

10375 OGDENSBURG HARBOR

10376 SACKETTS HARBOR

10377 SOUTH HAVEN HARBOR

10378 TARRYTOWN HARBOR

10379 TOLEDO HARBOR

10380 TONAWANDA HARBOR

22 ROOMETTE SLEEPING CARS (NYC BAY series)

10400 CAMINADA BAY

10401 CAPE COD BAY

10402 TAMPA BAY

10403 TAWAS BAY

10404 TRAVERS BAY

10405 THREE MILE BAY

10406 JAMES BAY

10407 LITTLE NECK BAY

10408 MANHASSET BAY

10409 NAHANT BAY

10410 NEW YORK BAY

10411 PIGEON BAY

10412 QUINCY BAY

10413 RARITAN BAY

10414 SAGINAW BAY

10415 TURTLE BAY

10416 PEEKSKILL BAY

10417 HAVERSTRAW BAY

10418 HUMBER BAY

10419 SMITHTOWN BAY

10420 SODUS BAY

10421 BIRCH BAY

10422 DELAWARE BAY

10423 DORCAS BAY

10424 DORCHESTER BAY

10425 CHESAPEAKE BAY

10426 CHIPPEWA BAY

10427 SANDUSKY BAY

10428 SANDY HOOK BAY

10429 MEXICO BAY

10430 GARDINERS BAY

10431 MOBILE BAY

10432 MONTEREY BAY

10433 SAN FRANCISCO BAY

10434 SHEEPSHEAD BAY

10435 HUNTINGTON BAY

10436 JAMAICA BAY

10437 CASCO BAY

10438 CHAUMONT BAY

10439 WILD FOWL BAY

10440 WILLOUGHBY BAY

10441 GREATSOUTH BAY

10442 GREAT PECONIC BAY

10443 THUNDER BAY

10444 STURGEON BAY

12 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC PORT series)

10500 PORT OF BUFFALO

10501 PORT BYRON

10502 PORT OF ALBANY

10503 PORT OF BOSTON

10504 PORT OF LEWISTON

10505 PORT ORANGE

10506 PORT OF OSWEGO

10507 PORT OF WINDSOR

10508 PORT OF NEW YORK

10509 PORT LAWRENCE

10510 PORT CLINTON

10511 PORT OF DETROIT

10512 PORT OF CHICAGO

10513 PORT CHESTER

13 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS (NYC COUNTY series)

10530 DEKALB COUNTY

10531 WASHTENEW COUNTY

10532 LORAIN COUNTY

10533 ONANDAGA COUNTY

10534 ASHTABULA COUNTY

10535 NOBLE COUNTY

10536 LA PORTE COUNTY

10537 ELKHART COUNTY

10538 HAMPDEN COUNTY

10539 DUTCHESS COUNTY

10540 ONEIDA COUNTY

10541 SANDUSKY COUNTY

10542 ERIE COUNTY

10543 HERKIMER COUNTY

10544 MONTGOMERY COUNTY

10545 WAYNE COUNTY

10546 COOK COUNTY

10547 CUYAHOGA COUNTY

10548 LUCAS COUNTY

10549 MONROE COUNTY

10550 WESTCHESTER COUNTY

10551 NIAGARA COUNTY

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 25 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (NYC BROOK series)

10560 BABBLING BROOK

10561 BONNIE BROOK

10562 FALL BROOK

10563 PLUM BROOK

10564 SINGING BROOK

10565 SUNRISE BROOK

10566 WINGATE BROOK

5 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 23 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (NYC CREEK series)

10570 HICKORY CREEK

10571 SANDY CREEK

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 20 SEAT LOUNGE CARS (NYC FALLS series)

10580 HONEOYE FALLS

10581 HOPE FALLS

10582 COOKS FALLS

10583 ESSEX FALLS

10584 SHELBURNE FALLS

10585 STUYVESENT FALLS

10586 COPAKE FALLS

10587 BUTTERMILK FALLS

10588 CHITTENANGO FALLS

10589 HORSESHOE FALLS

10590 KEZAR FALLS

10591 CROTON FALLS

10592 MAHOPIC FALLS

10593 WAPPINGERS FALLS

10594 GENESEE FALLS

10595 RAQUETTE FALLS

10596 BENNINGTON FALLS

10597 CHICOPE FALLS

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 22 SEAT LOUNGE CARS (NYC LAKE series)

10600 OTTER LAKE

10601 CAYUGA LAKE

10602 CRANBERRY LAKE

10603 MIRROR LAKE

10604 ONEIDA LAKE

10605 OTISCO LAKE

10606 OTSEGO LAKE

10607 OTTER LAKE

10608 RAQUETTE LAKE

10609 SARANAC LAKE

10610 SENECA LAKE

10611 SILVER LAKE

10612 SKANEATELES LAKE

10613 TROUT LAKE

10614 TUPPER LAKE

10615 WALTON LAKE

6 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 22 SEAT LOUNGE CARS (NYC STREAM series)

10620 FOREST STREAM

10621 GULF STREAM

10622 RAPID STREAM

10623 RIPPLING STREAM

10624 BOULDER STREAM

10625 CRYSTAL STREAM

10626 WOODLAND STREAM

10627 SWIFT STREAM

10628 LAUREL STREAM

10629 MOUNTAIN STREAM

10630 RAINBOW STREAM

4 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 36 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (NYC ISLAND series)

10640 BEDLOES ISLAND

10641 MANHATTAN ISLAND

10642 PELEE ISLAND

10643 THOUSAND ISLANDS

1 COMPARTMENT 1 DRAWING ROOM 2 DOUBLE BEDROOM BUFFET 26 SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATIONS (NYC RIVER series)
10650 GENESEE RIVER

10651 MAUMEE RIVER

10652 WABASH RIVER

The above cars were assigned these numbers for accounting purposes in 1950 and in 1958 the numbers were actually painted on the cars.
The Four ISLAND series cars numbers 10640-10643 never had numbers applied as they were sold to the NdeM during the early 1950's.
The Three RIVER series Sleeper Lounge Observations never had there numbers 10650 - 10652 applied as they were sold to the B&O in January 1956 for service in that roads NATIONAL LIMITED.
The following renumbering of cars took place in July 1958 at the time numbers were actually applied to the cars.

10631 SUNRISE BROOK originally NYC 10565 SUNRISE BROOK

10632 WINGATE BROOK originally NYC 10566 WINGATE BROOK

10633 HICKORY CREEK originally NYC 10570 HICKORY CREEK

10634 SANDY CREEK originally NYC 10571 SANDY CREEK

10635 HONEOYE FALLS originally NYC 10580 HONEOYE FALLS

10638 SHELBURNE FALLS originally 10584 SHELBURNE FALLS

10639 COPAKE FALLS originally NYC 10586 COPAKE FALLS

10640 BUTTERMILK FALLS originally NYC 10587 BUTTERMILK FALLS

10641 CHITTENANGO FALLS originally NYC 10588 CHITTENANGO FALLS

10643 MAHOPAC FALLS originally NYC 10592 MAHOPAC FALLS

10644 WAPPINGERS FALLS originally NYC 10593 WAPPINGERS FALLS

10645 GENESEE FALLS originally NYC 10594 GENESEE FALLS

10646 RAQUETTE FALLS originally NYC 10595 RAQUETTE FALLS

10647 CHICOPEE FALLS originally NYC 10597 CHICOPEE FALLS

In October 1959 the Budd Company delivered four 24 single room 8 double room Slumbercoaches to the NYC for assignment to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED. These leased cars were the first stainless steel cars assigned to the TWENTIETH CENTURY LIMITED although the train added a coach section at the same time that was all stainless steel cars from Budd. The NYC numbered the four Slumbercoaches 10800 - 10803. All four were returned to Budd in 1964 upon completion of the lease and in turn were resold to the NP for operation in the MAINSTREETER and NORTH COAST LIMITED with new numbers and names.

24 SINGLE ROOM 8 DOUBLE ROOM SLUMBERCOACHES Budd Company October 1959 Plan: 9540 Lot: 9691-090 (Built for Budd for lease to NYC)

10800 - 10803

The NYC was satisfied with the Slumber coaches but rather than buy them they returned ten of their Budd built 22 roomette sleeping cars in the HARBOR series to Budd for rebuilding to 16 single room 10 double room Slumbercoaches. The cars selected for this rebuilding appear to have been selected at random and the cars were converted on the following schedule and after completion of the work the cars were numbered only 10810-10819.

AUGUST 1961

10811 originally 10365 ERIE HARBOR

10812 originally 10360 FAIRPORT HARBOR

10819 originally 10373 YORK HARBOR

SEPTEMBER 1961

10810 originally 10364 DUNKIRK HARBOR

10813 originally 10370 INDIANA HARBOR

10815 originally 10377 SOUTH HAVEN HARBOR

10818 originally 10372 VERMILION HARBOR

OCTOBER 1961

10814 originally 10367 MONROE HARBOR

10816 originally 10379 TOLEDO HARBOR

10817 originally 10380 TONAWANDA HARBOR

The above Slumbercoaches were assigned to CLEVELAND LIMITED - NEW ENGLAND STATES - OHIO STATE LIMITED - TWENTEITH CENTURY LIMITED - WOLVERINE. All cars traveled between end terminals in all but the WOLVERINE whose cars operated only between New York and Detroit only.
In 1959 the NYC sold four BROOK series sleeper lounge Observations to the Canadian Pacific Railway.
The Budd VALLEY series sleeping cars were disposed of by sale 15 to the NdeM 11 went to the PC and seven of those went to Amtrak. The others were all scrapped.
The Budd HARBOR series cars were sold 21 to the NdeM between 1966-68 and seven went to the PC. Those seven were transferred to Amtrak.
In 1966-67 the NYC renumbered eight Budd STREAM series cars with 600 series numbers for Parlor Buffet Lounge service with no interior modifications for use in EMPIRE service trains as follows.

MAY 1966

656 originally NYC 10624 BOULDER STREAM

657 originally NYC 10621 GULF STREAM

658 originally NYC 10623 RIPPLING STREAM

MAY 1967

659 originally NYC 10629 MOUNTAIN STREAM

660 originally NYC 10627 SWIFT STREAM

661 originally NYC 10625 CRYSTAL STREAM

OCTOBER 1967

662 originally NYC 10630 RAINBOW STREAM

663 originally NYC 10622 RAPID STREAM

The following P/S built FALLS series cars were similarly renumbered by the NYC for Parlor Buffet Lounge service and commuter service between 1958 and 1961 as follows.

AUGUST 1958

646 originally NYC 10595 RAQUETTE FALLS

OCTOBER 1958

636 originally NYC 10582 COOKS FALLS

637 originally NYC 10583 ESSEX FALLS

638 originally NYC 10584 SHELBURNE FALLS

639 originally NYC 10586 COPAKE FALLS

640 originally NYC 10587 BUTTERMILK FALLS

644 originally NYC 10593 WAPPINGERS FALLS

645 originally NYC 10594 GENESEE FALLS

648 originally NYC 10597 CHICOPEE FALLS

NOVEMBER 1958

643 originally NYC 10592 MAHOPAC FALLS

JANUARY 1959

641 originally 10591 CROTON FALLS

642 originally NYC 10585 STUYVESANT FALLS

MARCH 1959

649 originally NYC 10581 HOPE FALLS

650 originally NYC 10590 KEZAR FALLS

JANUARY 1961

635 originally NYC 19580 HONEOYE FALLS

The NYC even assigned 5 postwar P/S built LAKE Series cars to this service as follows.

JULY 1964

651 originally NYC 10606 OTSEGO LAKE

652 originally NYC 10603 MIRROR LAKE

MAY 1965

653 originally NYC 10600 BIG MOOSE LAKE

654 originally NYC 10608 RAQUETTE LAKE

APRIL 1966

655 originally NYC 10614 TUPPER LAKE

Two LAKE series cars were modified to 3-Day Room Commuter Bar cars with each of the day rooms having a table and four chairs for card playing. They still retained the couch and private bathrooms.

DECEMBER 1965

1597 originally NYC 10615 WALTON LAKE

JANUARY 1966

1598 originally NYC 10609 SARANAC LAKE

In 1958 the Canadian National purchased 23 P/S built BAY series sleeping cars from the NYC. The CRI&P purchased ten BAY series cars in 1959 and between 1959 and 1966 the IC purchased eleven BAY series sleeping cars.
The Canadian National purchased twenty RIVER series 10-6 Sleeping cars from the NYC in 1965 and between 1964-65 an additional 70 went to Mexico for service with the FCP and NdeM.
Many people still believe today that the NYC abandoned its passengers rather than the passengers abandoning the railroad. The NYC downgraded many trains and changed schedules to inconvenient hours and then sought discontinuance. Yes the NYC had a lot of rail competition on some routes but with there modern fleet they should have been more than capable of competing.


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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, March 6, 2006 9:28 AM
G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #59

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the New York Central (NYC) in a 1954 advertisement from my private collection:

Easy Does It . . . when the family goes New York Central

Easy on Dad! No traffic to tire him. No white line to watch. When New York Central does the driving, he’s free to read, nap, or enjoy the wonderful Water Level Route scenery that parades past his big picture window.

Easy on Mother, because her mind’s at ease about the youngsters. Not back-seat fidgets. No frequent roadside stops. Everything the children need is right at hand. And they couldn’t be safer at home!

Easy on the Kids! They don’t have to stay put in their seats. There’s plenty of room to move about. And there’s the extra thrill of those famous New York Central meals in the diner, with their own, thrifty Children’s Menu to choose from.

Easy on the Budget! Round-trip coach fares are low. And special Family Tickets cut them so much as 50% or even more. Ask your New York Central ticket agent all about them.

. . . . . NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD . . . . .

. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . The Water Level Route . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Monday, March 6, 2006 7:28 AM
Good Morning!

So, where's 20 Fingers these days[?] Must be the storms out on the left coast ....

No "theme" for this day, just a continuance of what we "do" . . . .


BCIT 871027, a centerbeam flat car. [Creative Commons] (photo: Sean Lamb)


Enjoy![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, March 5, 2006 6:08 PM
G'day!

Final submssion for this day . . . One of my favorite cars to travel in:

BC Rail RDC BC-15. [Courtesy: www.trainweb.com]


Later![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, March 5, 2006 2:00 PM
G'day!

Good to see some participation over here today![tup] Doesn't appear as if we're going to be treated to a 20 Fingers Post ..... hmmm, "Feast or Famine personified!"[swg]

Anyway, nice to have you aboard, barndad Doug! Of couse, the interactive nature of this Thread just "isn't," so don't be dismayed. Best to keep anything that you want some "feedback" on left for the bar!

Lars Great "promo" shot! Love it . . .

Doug Story is just fine and the Pix are great![tup][tup]

Here's a little something for my Sunday contribution:

Whistler Northwind excursion train. [Courtesy: www.trainweb.com]


Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Sunday, March 5, 2006 11:01 AM
Good Morning Tom!

I see barndad Doug has made a visit AND a nice post. We gotta "train" him though - no "originals" over here (unless of course you are 20 Fingers!)

Just my occasional stop to support what you are doing and drop a pix along the way:

For Tom’s Alaska Trip!!


A hint to Doug NEVER, but NEVER provide the entire "ball of wax" over here - it gets wasted, big time![swg]


Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, March 5, 2006 10:27 AM
Hey Doug!

Great to see ya over here!! A sneak preview is now "out of the box!!" Anyway, you'll find very little interaction (if any) on this Thread. It's about as exciting as watching paint dry - however, between 20 Fingers - Lars - BK and Moi we keep it going. Good place simply to rack up some "quality time" for the efforts put forth in compiling the works we display at the bar![tup]

This is pretty much a "rerun" haven for those from the bar . . . after all, we all know where our "allegiance" lies, eh[?]

Later![tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 5, 2006 9:51 AM
Omigosh! It's an appearance from me on a "foreign" thread! Great contributions and "stuff", guys! Here's a sneak-peek of an article I will post the the "Our Place" thread this week:

A Preserved Pioneer by Paul Hammond, Vintage Rails, Spring 1996



When the Pioneer Zephyr departed Denver Union Station for Chicago in 1934, it captured America’s imagination and attention. Not only were world records established in long-distance speed and performance, but this was also the beginning of a new diesel-powered age for railroading. Fittingly, at least three Zephyr trainsets have survived in the U.S>; two are preserve din museums in Illinois.

During the Zephyr’s active years, at was assigned a number of runs as the Burlington ordered newer and larger streamlined locomotives and cars. On May 26, 1959 – the 25th anniversary of its historic journey – the time came for the Pioneer Zephyr’s retirement. The train had hauled more than one million passengers over 3,200,000 miles during its distinguished career.

But this was not to be an end. The following year the stainless steel trainset was donated to the Chicago’s Museum of Science and Industry. After undergoing repairs to bring it back into top mechanical and cosmetic shape, the Zephyr was placed on outdoor display. For the next three-plus decades, untold tens of thousands had the chance to view this distinctive, pioneering streamliner – itself given National Historic Mechanical Engineering Landmark status. In spite of the museum’s best efforts, the Pioneer Zephyr suffered its share of deterioration, mostly to the interior. As the 1990s dawned, however, the museum decided all objects in its custodianship should be properly cared for in the years to come – regardless of size – or transferred to other institutions. Plans were made to either build shelters for, or bring inside, several large items. In addition to the Zephyr, New York Central’s famed 999 and a WWII vintage German U-Boat would benefit, among others.

In conjunction with these plans, restoration of the Pioneer Zephyr was deemed a necessity. Following transport to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, aboard special highway trailers, work began at Northern Railcar Corporation in 1995. A target appearance of 1940 has been set as the ultimate goal; an important component of the work will be understanding and replication of the processes – such as shotwelding – in use by Budd at the time of manufacture, and subsequent maintenance by the Burlington.

The stainless steel exterior skin remains intact. Electro-chemical action and deterioration (caused by the employment of mild steel for repairs over the years) are being mitigated, and a final cleaning, light straightening, and polishing will restore the train’s in-service luster. Inside, the many stainless steel surfaces are being cleaned and polished, and lighting, ventilation ducts, speaker systems, and doors are being made operational once again.

In the passenger seating areas, floor tiles are being replaced in-kind along with all carpeting. Seat will be reupholstered. The mail compartment, baggage section, operator’s cab, and engine room will be stabilized, cleaned, and reworked as necessary to be at least visually complete; fittings, piping, and instrumentation will be reinstalled as part of these efforts – especially those in the cab.

The Zephyr’s restoration, planned for completion in 1996, will coincide with its relocation to a special gallery at the Museum of Science and Industry. Located inside a new underground parking garage, this gallery – scheduled to open in early 1998 – will be accessed through a new entry and ticketing area. The museum’s staff has been hard at work developing plans for the Zephyr’s display; these will seek to recapture some of the mood of the era.

Motion effects, engine and horn sounds, and other “experimental” happenings are envisioned, along with an on-board tour simulating the record-breaking Denver to Chicago run. Exhibit units surrounding the train will focus on its scientific and technological advancements, as well as its Art Deco/Streamline styling and the Chicago “Century of Progress” exhibition where crowds flocked to see the silver steak. Once all this is completed, a visit to the Museum of Science and Industry should be well worth the time for Zephyr aficionados.

Another Zephyr trainset that has found a good home with a museum is the Nebraska Zephyr, displayed at the Illinois Railroad Museum in Union (northwest of Chicago). This train in later years was remodeled with a “transition car,” allowing newer locomotives to provide motive power without sacrificing the Zephyr’s streamlined look. It periodically operates along the museum’s three-mile-long main line, and in recent years has even ventured out over Chicago-area railroads as a “traveling ambassador.”

A third Burlington trainset, the Mark Twain Zephyr, is privately owned in the Chicago area. In addition the Boston & Maine-Maine Central’s Flying Yankee Budd-built articulated trainset is stored outdoors in Glen, New Hampshire (near scenic Crawford Notch). Although it is intact mechanically and cosmetically, the streamliner faces an uncertain future – the train’s owners have announced plans to convert the Flying Yankee into a stationary restaurant.

The Nebraska Zephyr, with its articulated (permanently coupled) equipment, pulls away for the LaGrange, Illinois, station in July 1967 as it approaches Chicago Union Station


[:I] Q - What did George Washington say to his men just before they got on the boat?.......A - Men, get on the boat. [:I]
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Posted by siberianmo on Sunday, March 5, 2006 8:24 AM
Good Morning!

A couple of Pix from a RR many perhaps know very little about - the Pacific Great Eastern (PGE) forerunner of the now-defunct British Columbia Railways (BCR):

(1) Pacific Great Eastern #53/frt at pier, Squamish, BC (Summer 1949) (www.yesteryeardepot.com)



(2) Pacific Great Eastern 2-8-0 #54, at Williams Lake, BC (1946) (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)


Enjoy![tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 4, 2006 4:00 PM
Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this ad out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956) [located on the inside of the front cover]

TICKET AGENTS! Ask one question and increase your income

For every “yes” answer, you earn a generous commission. And you’ll find many rail passengers want rental cars. Men on bujsiness trips. Folks going on vacations or to towns without rail connections.

A clean, new car from Avis will greet them at the station. Rates are low and include gas, oil and insurance. Only Avis offers them the convenient “Rent it here – leave it there” service, and they’ll get the courtesy and treatment that has made Avis the fastest growing car rental organization in the word . . . with more than 850 offices.

Make friends for your line and commissions for yourself with Avis reservations. For particulars write Avis Rent-a-Car System, Inc., Hotel Statler Bldg., Boston 16, Mass., or call your Avis rental station.

. . . . . Avis
. . . . . RENT-a-CAR

Away or at home . . . a car of your own


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Saturday, March 4, 2006 2:05 PM
Hi Tom

A bit of catch up for me - like that C&EI that 20 Fingers began. Nice pix as well along with your additional info. '

Tis a shame that it appears the interaction over here is so non-existent. Seems to me that many on these forums are in for the BS rather than the substance. Surely you've noticed that. As I mentioned over at the bar some time back, I used to participate quite regularly using a different "cyber name" with multiple stars, etc. Got so fed up with the crap that I just stayed away. Some days . . . but your bar does keep me on an even keel, and I appreciate that very much![tup]

Catch ya tomorrow for the bar's Pix Posting Gala!

Until the next time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 4, 2006 10:03 AM
G'day!

Sure is quiet over here - Al is either sleeping in or had an early start to his weekend work day!

Something else from the Chicago & Eastern Illionis:

C&EI 4-4-2 #222 (from: http://www.yesteryeardepot.com)


Later![tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Saturday, March 4, 2006 8:02 AM
Good Morning!

Something to kick off the day . . . . Another from the Chicago & Eastern Illinois:

C&EI F3 diesel #1204 on pass 1948 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)


Enjoy![tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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