Here's another car from the collection at the St. Louis MOT:
1925 Chesapeake & Ohio #970 "City Tavern"
This dining car was built by Pullman. It was air conditioned in 1937 for use on the "George Washington", the best train on the C&O Ry. This overnight train ran the 599 miles between Washington, DC and Cincinnati, OH, with through cars serving Louisville, Newport News, St. Louis, Chicago and New York.
It seated 40 diners and had a crew of eleven. Three cooks and a dishwasher worked in the kitchen, six waiters (one per pair of tables) served the meals, and the steward was in charge. The kitchen has a coal burning stove and ice chests for refrigeration. There are hatches on the roof for filling ice bunkers, one of which can be seen at the far left.. The tables are mounted to the walls and have a rim around the edge to prevent plates from sliding off. It was donated by the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway in 1960.
G-day everyone!
I see Doug has been quite busy posting pics here and over at the bar. Well Done my fine friend.
How about a pic from me.
This Alco RS-1 is finally getting some paint on it after getting an electrical system overhaul. The Alco will be painted in the DSS&A #101 (Duluth South Shore & Atlantic). This unit is located up in Duluth, MN at the Lake Superior railroad museum. She's got a nice galloping noise to it when it runs.
Happy railroading.
James
Good Afternoon All.
I don't wander over here all that often, but the picture of the C&O diner caught my attention. The "George Washington" entered service in 1932. The railroad billed its new operation as "The Finest Air Conditioned Train in the World." The special dining car china used on the train was and is extremely populer with dining car china collectors. You might want to take a look at the October, 2006 issue of C&O History which has an excellent, color illustrated story about George Washington China.
If you want to get an insight into how the C&O did things take a look at the article "Chronicle of Ashby's Tavern." This is an excellent survey of dineroperations. You can find it by doing a Dogpile serach, type in Chesapeake and Ohio dining cars and follow the links.
Last is an article titled "Captain of the George." This is on the C&O Historical Soceity's website. Go to the section titled reprinted articles and follow the links.
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Howdy Shane! This is a pretty good thread, I think. Glad you got something useful out of the C&O diner post, and thanks for the supplimental information. Here's another post I prepaired to bump the thread to the top!
Eric looks over another car at the St. Louis MOT
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad "Aleutian"
This heavyweight car was built by Pullman in 1923 as Copper River & Northwestern Railroad #100. In 1940, as the "Aleutian," the car was used by vice president and general manager of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad's eastern lines. Featuring "all the comforts of home, "the car contains an observation lounge with open rear platform, four staterooms, galley, dining room, two bathrooms and two showers, and crew quarters (with another toilet and shower) for the cook and porter.
In 1952, the Burlington rebuilt and modernized the car, installing air conditioning, self-contained electrical and hot water systems, and roller bearing, giving it a rebuilt weight of 102.6 tons. Following its Burlington service, the 83-foot/6-inch car was purchased in 1966 by the Missouri Portland Cement Co. and renamed "Accommodator." The car was received by MOT in 1970
Here is another car from the collection of the MOT in St. Louis
1938 CB&Q #192 "Silver Spoon"
The Budd Company of Philadelphia built this lightweight, streamlined dining car out of stainless steel using their patented "Shotweld" process of electrical welding. It was air conditioned and seated 48 patrons with a table for four under each window. The car is 83'8" long. It was built as a spare car and served on many of the Burlington's Zephyr stream lined trains. Despite its modern appearance its kitchen had a coal burning stove and used ice chests for refrigeration. There are hatches on the roof for filling ice bunkers. Dining car kitchens didn't start having all electric kitchens until 1946 due to the difficulty of getting enough power from the axle-driven electric generators. It had a crew of eleven.
CM3 recommends an interesting article. Thereto a link and therefrom a paragraph:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3943/is_200603/ai_n17185636
Ashby's Tavern plunges into the train's fifth tunnel in 11 miles. The light inside the dining room becomes dim - the rushing sound from below the car, and beside and ahead, a steady muffled thunder. After half a minute traveling under Peters Mountain, the thick smoke filling the tunnel begins to work its way through the car's end-door and into the forward hallway. The air in the dining room is turning gray, the aroma of food is overpowered by coal smoke, and from the first coach all the way back to the rear, Pullman, eyeballs are stinging and filling with tears. Lewis Tunnel, upgrade and 4,077 feet long, is a formidable pull, and the M-I up front is certainly filling the hole with smoke like no reciprocating engine could. Right now only two people aboard the train are removed from the smoke problem: 50 feet ahead of the smokestack up front, the engineer and fireman sit in their enclosed cab on cushioned seats and watch the hole at the west end of the tunnel approaching. In front of the engineer are lighted gauges and controls. Behind the fireman on the boiler backhead to the rear, are firebox firing controls and the main steam gauge. Arranged something like a cab-forward steam locomotive, the M-1 keeps the engine crew ahead of the smoke, while the passengers far behind blink and sniff, uncomfortably picking at their food. In another minute, No. 5 exits Lewis Tunnel, charges through Alleghany, Virginia, and begins her long descent to the Greenbrier River.
http://www.cvrma.org/pictures/MISC/dfrr5_022_c&o_steam_turbine_electric_streamliner_1947.jpg
Mike
G'day!
Looks as if the guys from "Our" Place have kept this lonely Thread up 'n runnin' Way to go, Doug - James - CM3 Shane 'n Mike!
Canada boasts North America's longest continuously running passenger train - the Ocean from Montreal, Quebec to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Today, the train is a mere shadow of what it once was as VIA Rail has replaced those wonderful Budd stainless steel corrugated side beauties from the 50s with their Renaissance fleet. A long sad story for another time.
Here's a couple of shots from Moncton, New Brunswick on the east bound Ocean during my recently concluded "zillionth" trip along that route . . .
Enjoy!
Tom
A rare Sunday visit . . .
Route map for the "Ocean"
Another map of my recently concluded rail adventure in Canada - two separate round trips from Montreal.
Route map for the "Chaleur"
Here's something for the sake of nostalgia 'n classic trains!
PGE 1964 Timetable [fair use]
Seems like old times as the crew must have all gone ashore over here! <grin>
From the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO) <personal foto>
Here's another from the St. Louis Transportation Museum taken during the 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis last month . . .
St. Louis Waterworks Railway Interurban Car #10.
Built by St. Louis Car Co. (1914). <personal foto>
Well, this lonely Thread has pretty much turned into a Pix Posting site - so why not another
IC hoppers at CNs coal facility in Halifax <personal foto>
Something from our recently concluded 2nd Annual "Our" Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis last month . . . This one taken at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO) . . .
MoPac Caboose #13889. Built by MoPac (1980). <personal foto>
Ahoy Cap'n Tom!
Reporting in from Sacramento, California with a contribution to keep this outpost up 'n running! Just left my Saturday missive over at the bar . . . <grin>
Until the next time!
Lars
Here's my humble collection of pix for the St. Louis MOT MoPac caboose.
The history and use of the cabose is that it became widespread after the Civil War (1861-1865), with an estimated 2,500 in use by 1870. In 1900 there were 17,605 being used in the US. It was the conductor's office and the crew's home when away from their home station.
The word caboose is generally thought to come from an 18th century Dutch or French term for a small cookhouse on a ship's deck, which had a similar sound. It is also called a way car or cabin car on some lines or certain regions. An older term was a conductor's car. In Canada it is often called a van. In railroad slang it is called a crummy, hack or shack.
It was also the safety point at the rear of a freight train, displaying flags during the day and marker lamps at night. It allowedthe train to be observed from the rear, as crews looked for hot wheel bearings (hot boxes) or shifted loads. It lso carried tools and spare parts such as coupler knuckles and brake hoses
The cupola on the roof is also called a lookout clerestory, observatory, monitor or dome
One of the crew was always in the cupola while the train was moving. They would move from side to side when the train went around curves as this was the best time to see the cars well.
A contribution from me to help keep things going over here . . .
Great to see ya back, Lars! The bar hasn't been the same without ya . . .
Here's one more from our recently concluded Rendezvous in St. Louis . . .
Southern Pacific # 4460 - Northern GS-6 - 4-8-4. Built by Lima (1943).
<personal foto> from the StL Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO)
Thanks for the kind words!
Just dropped off some comments and congrats over at the bar for our 26th Month Anniversary!
Here's a pix to keep things going for the day . . .
A foto a day keeps Page 2 away . . .
From our recently concluded Rendezvous in St. Louis . . . <personal fotos> from the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO).
G-day guys and all present!
Well It's been awhile but I am back.
Looking good guys. It seems this old thread still has some kick to it.
Now for some pics.
This is a caboose that I and a couple of friends are restoring for fun. This is DM&IR Baywindow caboose C-205.
An interior shot that shows our mess. But it gives you an idea of what we are up against.
This is before ripping out one of the baywindows.
And this is after.
This caboose was built in 1966.
I see James has popped in . . .
And more from our recently concluded Rendezvous in St. Louis . . . <personal fotos> from the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO).
Illinois Terminal Rail Bus #206. Built by White (1939).
Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority #2740 - PCC Streetcar. Built by St. Louis Car. Co. (1947).
Looking Tom!
G-day Guys.
How about my contribution for today!
One of my own pictures I caught in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. This is an old Milwaukee Road Bay window caboose that was sitting there wasting away with time. I'm surprised it made it this far.
Until next time.
Continuing on with some recent fotos from our get together in St. Louis . . .
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (Burlington Route) E8A #9939A. Built by EMD (1950).
One more before knocking off for the weekend . . .
Illinois Central #30 Dynamometer Car. Built by IC (1943).
<personal foto> from the Stl Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO)
Kinda sez it all, eh
1949 Lionel Catalog
1954 Lionel Catalog
The "one a day" foto site continues . . .
Laclede Christy #2 S9T 0-4-0T 30" gauge tramway loco. Built in Davenport, IA (1907)
Let me provide one for the day . . .
Seen it B4 - but it's oh so "purty"!!
Great to see Lars 'n the NYC Alco!
<personal foto> from the St. Louis Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO):
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio Parlor-Observation #5998. Built by American Car & Foundry (1935).
And another to keep things alive 'round here . . .
And another from the StL Museum of Transportation (Kirkwood, MO) . . .
Georgia Railroad 0-6-0 #724. Built by Baldwin (1896) <personal foto>
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