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Posted by BudKarr on Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:07 PM
Good Afternoon Captain Tom and all assembled!

I want one and all to know that "IT" works! Yes, there is no doubt about it, "IT" works and works well!

So, what is this all about[?] The use of the REFRESH feature does indeed update the postings on the thread. When I logged in, my decision was to to directly to the bar by clicking on the post shown in the "window." That brought up a posting from this morning! Once I clicked the REFRESH feature one my operating system (WIN XP) I immediately was taken to the most current information, drastically different and updated from where I had been.

Barkeep, I would like a [i[]Southern Comfort on the rocks[/i] and let us not discuss "shaken not stirred" on this fine day! [swg] A round for the house and I also would prefer one of your half-sandwiches. Let me try one of those great looking roast beef, ham & swiss combinations on pumpernickel, and yes - a large pickle would be nice. I will require a draught with that when it is ready. Thank you.

I dug this up just a few moments ago when I noticed the posting from Al - it is not a dome, but this should bring a smile to anyone who happens to be a Santa Fe fan:

AT&SF F7A #49 (photo credit: undetermined)


I see that my "other half" has visited, thereby keeping me following him. A strange game we play, eh[?] [swg] Nice job with the "Guest Bartending," you will have to share your secret to success with me. <grin>

Those URLs were quite sobering and you would think we, as a people, would acknowledge the errors of the past in that situation. A terrible time for those men, a terrible blemish on the country, and past due for corrective actions - at least for the "record." Thank you CM3 - indeed an eye opener.

I would say that things are seemingly getting back to where they had been many months ago insofar as the customers are concerned. We have had two visits from Al this day - Ted appears to have resumed his rightful place as "sage" and the rest of the crew has taken on a bit of frequency in their postings. Very good to see. [tup]

Thank you, Sir Trolleyboy Rob for that caveat regarding the upright position while sitting on the "Reserved or Permanent stools." I shall try my level best to uphold the image - thankfully the belting and bolting systems will enhance that effort quite nicely! A Mentor Village engineering marvel of the 1st degree! [swg]

I enjoyed that cartoon, Sir Barndad Doug - a good choice to get a few smiles! [tup]

I pass this for anyone who has not availed themselves of a visit to our Proprietor's "other thread" (as he terms it). You are indeed missing something. There is an opportunity for those of you creative people to use another venue for the display of your fine works. The thread seems to be thriving and appears to be closing in on 1,000 postings. Not bad for something that began as an experiment.

As with here, Captain Tom does not encourage the ignorant, rude or other undesirables to stick around. Therefore, it too is a cozy little place for a chance to encore your works. Another nice feature is that your postings do not get "lost" so quickly as they do here, as the contributions are only several per day. Easier to review, and so on.

Have some chores to attend to and then down the mountain once again. Therefore, I must curtail my leisure time with the hope that each of you enjoys good health, prosperity and warm associations.

Cheers!

BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada's high mountain country!
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Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:54 PM
Good Mi-Morning Tom I know that you and Lars both like domes so thought I would throw this in for good measure.

Atchison
Topeka
&
Santa Fe
(AT&SF)
SAtreamlined Dome Cars
by Al

The Santa Fe owned a total of 20-dome cars, 6-short domes from Pullman Standard and 14-big domes from the Budd Company.
The Santa Fe went daily with the SUPER CHIEF in February 1948 with new sleeping cars and new sleeper Observations for four of the five consists.
At the end of 1950 the Santa Fe once again added new cars to the SUPER CHIEF receiving 7-new 36 seat dining cars 600-606 in November-December 1950. In December the Santa Fe received 6-Pleasure Domes with the famous Turquoise dining room numbers 500 - 505. These cars were coupled directly behind the new diners and the Turquoise room located in the forward part of the Pleasure domes was served from the dining car. During peak travel periods it served as extra dining space for twelve. At other times the Turquoise room was available for private luncheon or dinner parties. Many an evening the Turquoise rooms served as private cocktail lounges for Hollywood stars and their guests or captains of fortune 500 companies. This Turquoise room was located in the short end on the main floor and this was always the front of the car coupled to the dining car ahead. Beneath the dome of these cars was a lounge seating ten with bar. In the larger room at the rear of the car on the main level was a lounge with seating for 18. A desk and chair was tucked behind the stairway leading to the dome level.
The dome seating was unique to these dome cars, on each side in the center of the dome was four swiveling parlor seats revolving a full 360 degrees. At the front of the dome and the rear of the dome on each side of the aisle was a pair of seats. The two pair of seats at the rear of the dome faced rearward an unusual arrangement not found on any other short domes, except for those seats in the UP Dome Dining cars where half of the eighteen seats faced rearward at the tables. This gave the Santa Fe pleasure domes a seating capacity of 16. No other short domes built for any railroad seated this few, not even the UP Dome diners who seated 18 at tables in the domes.
These six cars were operated only in the SUPER CHIEFS and never ventured to any other Santa Fe train, although it is believed they operated on occasional business train specials on rare occasions as there was a spare if the SUPER CHIEFS operated on time.
When ordered from Pullman Standard the cars were to have PLAZA series names but were delivered with numbers only 500-505.
The intended names of these cars were as follows.

500 – PLAZA ACOMA

501 – PLAZA LAGUNA

502 – PLAZA LAMY

503 – PLAZA SANTA FE

504 – PLAZA TAOS

505 – PLAZA ZUNI

All six of the pleasure domes were sold to Amtrak in 1971 and were renumbered 9350 – 9355.
In 1954 the Santa Fe received 14 Big Domes from Budd between January and May 1954. The first eight delivered 506-513 featured 57 coach seats and an 18 seat lounge on the upper glassed in level and beneath the dome in the center of the cars lower level was a Buffet and lounge seating 28 with a double bedroom serving as quarters for the Courier Nurse.
The Santa Fe assigned one each to the Chicago – Oklahoma City CHICAGOAN - KANSAS CITYAN.
The other six of these Big domes were assigned to the EL CAPITAN train sets one per consist operating between Chicago and Los Angeles daily in each direction. These domes would be transferred to the CHIEF beginning in July 1956 when the EL CAPITAN became America’s first Hi-Level trains. These cars remained in the CHIEF until that train was discontinued in 1968. At that time three were transferred to the TEXAS CHIEF and operated between Chicago and Houston replacing that trains lounge cars.
The other six-Big domes delivered in 1954 were for a new train the SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF between Chicago and San Francisco. This train inaugurated in May 1954 operated by the southern mainline the only CHIEF train operating on this line. The Big domes built for the SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF were identical to those built for the EL CAPITAN, CHICAGOAN - KANSAS CITYAN on the upper or dome level 57 coach type seats and 18 seats arranged in a lounge. The lower level of these cars featured a Buffet and lounge with only ten seats. A twelve-crew dormitory occupied the remainder of the lower level between the cars six-wheel trucks. These cars remained in SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF service until Amtrak discontinued the train.
Big dome cars 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, and 555 were sold to Auto-Train becoming their 540, 520, 521, 522, 523, 541, 524, 512, 513, 514, 515, 510, and 511 respectively. They wore the Red – White – Purple from 1972 until sold at bankruptcy auction in December 1981.
The Santa Fe retained 506 for its business fleet, being renumbered AT&SF 60 in 974. After the merger into the BN #60 was renumbered BNSF 31 in 1999 and the name BAY VIEW was applied to the sides of the car at that time.

TTFN Al
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:06 AM
G'day!

An invigorating start to the day for our "pooch" as well. He loves these early morning temps and with the onset of what summer brings 'round these parts, it will be indoors and A/C for Juneau, the Wonder Husky! [swg]

Sacramento Northern one more RR I never heard of! Appreciate the continuing dialogue from those who are keeping this going . . . .[tup]

Quite a nostalgia trip for me as a result of the Post from our friend, CM3 (I'm not Shane!). I know of that area along the WVA Turnpike and do recall the "big hill" outside of Charleston. Usually spend the night there enroute my son's home in Virginia.

Busch Gardens at Williamsburg! Now there's a 'trip" fer sure, fer sure! My kids "grew up" in that place. We lived across the James River in Chesapeake (an area called Churchland where Portsmouth/Chesapeake abutted.) Anyway, back in those times (mid-70s) we spent quite a bit of time over at the amusement park. Always enjoyed the way they "did it" by having those international themes - Great Britain - Germany - Italy and France (if I recollect correctly). The food was terrific and the brew in the "authentic" beer garden tent was outstanding - as was the "ooooooompah music and dancers! Ah yes, fond, fond memories of days long, long gone. The kids were at "that age" where they could pretty much "do the park" without concern for them getting lost or into trouble. Just plain old good fun. Thanx for the memories! [tup]

The Port Chicago URLS are "must reading" for one and all!

Quarters and round much appreciated! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:20 AM
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Lovely day in the coalfields - clear and cool. The K9 Korps went out early this a.m. and refused to go back in the house - O.K. by mom as they're not underfoot. BIG rollback on gas prices today - $2.91. BTW, Tom, AEP is filing for a rate increase but not as bad as some other utilities - they burn locally-produced coal. As you travel the WV Turnpike to Charleston, you come down a big hill right past the last set of toll booths. The road here is right beside Cabin Creek Jct. on the C&O. There's a big billboard at that site which says "Coal - It Keeps the Lights On..."

A few notices now.

pwolfe - Alton Towers material was fascinating. I accompanied a busload of heathens (my son and his classmates) to Busch Gardens at Williamsburg last year. They have a miniature railroad in the park there which has a British-appearing locomotive and cars. Delightful!

wanswheel provided a positive plethora of URLs - thanks for sharing.
barndad checked in with an excellent a SICK cartoon.
Lars had the bar and has been enshrined and recognized - way to go - BTW did you release Cindy yet?
And passengerfan has appeared with more WP material.
Theodorebear with reminiscences. It amazes me how a couple of pictures of old toy train equipment dredges up so many memories. I wonder if the younger set today will feel the same way about videogames when they get older.

Since there has been some talk here about the Sacramento Northern, our research department staggered into action.

The SN was listed (of course) with the Western Pacific in the Official Guide.

The entry for SN showed two "main" lines.

Sacramento-Marysville-Tarke-Chico (91.8 miles)
Concord-Pittsburg (via Port Chicago) 13.3 miles)

They also listed several branch lines
Riverview-Oxford (15.7 miles)
Dozier-Vacaville Jct. (8.7 miles)
Vacaville Jct-Vacaville (4.6 miles)
Vacaville Jct. - Willota (9.5 miles)
Sacramento-Woodland (17.2 miles)
Sacramento -W. Sacramento (0.3 miles), Dozier (28.2 miles), Montezuma (42.7 miles)
Live Oak - Peachton (11.7 miles)
Oroville Jct. – Curham (12.5 miles)
The SN had more than a few connections

Port Chicago-ATSF
McAvoy-SP
Sacramento-WP, SP, Cen. Cal. Traction
Marysville-SP, WP
Chico –SP
Clyde – Government Ry (formerly Bay Point and Clayton RR)

Port Chicago, of course, was the site of a horrific munitions explosion in 1944 (320 fatalities). There has been a lot of controversy abt. this over the years with all sorts of theories advanced about the disaster.

Here are a couple of websites that you can visit to find out more
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq80-1.htm

http://portchicagomutiny.com/history/history.html

Work safe
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:29 AM
Good Mornin’ Gents!

A beautiful start to the day here in mid-Continent USA – blue skies, a chill in the air with temps expected to make it to 70 (F) later on. Rain predicted to be on the way – it’s needed, but NOT over the weekend! <grrrrrrr> Petrol up at “Collusion Corner” was $2.76 (rounded) after having been at $2.80. [wow] a drop . . . . Now I learn the electric companies across the land are going to hike their prices, with some areas already being “hit” by this reality of the 21st century. Round ‘n round she goes, and where she stops, EVERYONE knows – right IN your wallet (and mine!) [tdn]


What’s to say that hasn’t already been expounded on throughout the Posts[?] Another good day at the bar and all kinds of “good stuff” provided for our mutual enjoyment. [tup][tup][tup] I won’t repeat the accolades already provided, but suffice it to say, this is “Good!” [swg]


For Al – Hey, man! THIS IS CYBER SPACE – you can do as you please. Try not to let the reality of it all interfere with your having a good time. What you eat ‘n drink ‘round this joint has NO adverse impact on your health. So go ahead, imbibe away! [tup]
Nice contribution with the WP streamlined domes . . . [tup]

Good to see ya Bear Man! and not to worry – figured you either didn’t use the “Reload/Repost” feature and didn’t catch the “latest” OR you simply were in a hurry. Happens. By the by, your Email has been received – response sent. Thanx!

You can place an order for most anything ‘round here – the question is: Will the Chief Chef [C=:-)] be here to prepare it[?] [swg] I’ve heard that some customers have complaind about a “cement-like” taste to some of our evening specials. Hmmmmmm. [%-)]

Hey Lars Man! just caught your Post - had to "back this one out" and get in a word or two B4 Posting. [tup]

Good to see ya and that's a fine incluisve write-up you've provided. Takes the "heat off" of me - which you're doing quite well. THANX, Mate, for all the help - means a lot.

Go ahead and roll those quarters across the floor and watch Tex "do his thing!" That critter runs like crazy, but doesn't get anywhere on this slippery surface! It's hilarious! [swg]

Thanx for the rounds and quarters to all! [tup]


Okay Gents – here’s a round of OJ on me! Boris ring those chimes! [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING -
The information you MISS may be for YOU!
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Posted by LoveDomes on Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:56 AM
Good Morning Kapitan Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!


Nearly 8:30 AM here on the “Island” and my Mets pulled out a “squeeker” over the hated Giants of San Francisco – land of nuts, fruits ‘n flakes! Ooooooops, that just came out! Politically incorrect that I have known to be! [swg] I see where my least favorite player hit another homer en route to the “Babe’s” record. Only a matter of time, if injuries or prison doesn’t interfere, that he’ll break “Hammerin’ Hanks” all time record. Pity.

Looks like yesterday turned out quite well and I’m impressed with the support shown throughout the day. We’ll have to do this again . . . .

My day ended quite late yesterday with “all kinds” of things to do. The Mrs. and I dined out – she deserved it. Nothing like a dog on a bun, with mustard & sauerkraut, a Nehi to wash it down, followed by a Good Humor bar! Big spender that I am – think nothing about it! [swg]

Glad to learn that you enjoyed your “time off,” Tom and I regret that my day became a bit cluttered thereby preventing me from finishing the ‘shift.’ Our gal Cindy “performed” admirably – or so I was told – and she was a huge help just by being here! [yeah][wow]

As mentioned yesterday, I really enjoyed those American Flyer catalog covers. To be honest, I think Gilbert’s products really did outshine Lionel. While the latter was the train of choice for so many and the marketing was terrific, those S-gauge trains of AF were wonderful toys. As with you, I spend many a day arguing with my friends over which was “the best,” my 3-rail or there 2-rail. The “battle” continues to this day.

Those URLs from wanswheel Mike were not only cleverly conceived, but “right on!” That pix of “Tom and I” reminded me so much of childhood – I think we had a carpet that looked just like that! Thanks! [tup][tup][tup]

Loved that cartoon from barndad Doug] – a daily feature, perhaps[?] ANYTHING other than those jokes[swg]

No sweat, Coalminer3 – I’m not Shane – Coal-what’s-his-face! – figured you’d recognize that I’m not Tom! [swg] Enjoyed those URLs you provided – the Marx references broght back many memories as well. Those toys could be found in all the “five & dimes” . . . we toy train Aficionados always looked down our noses at the “Marx crowd!” Snootiness begins at the earliest of ages and in the strangest of environments! [swg]

That barrel of Bathams beer for pwolfe Pete arrived just in time – but how many of you know that the way to “tap” it is just the opposite of the way we do it in North America. What’s with these Brits – they drive on the “wrong” side of the street, think warm beer is the cat’s meow and now mess around with the “tapping of the keg!” <grin>

For my “bookend” – just be careful what you order next time I’m behind the bar – you just may “get it!” [swg] Shaken, not stirred – yeah, right! <smile>

Sorry we missed on another trolleyboy Rob but you maintained the pace quite well with everything turning out better than expected. [tup]

Glad to see 20 Fingers back on line and hope to see more contributions now that he’ll be spending a bit more time at home. Hey – there’s all kinds of reading to catch up on and now you don’t have to worry yourself to distraction with other people’s problems – like tax preparation. Good Gawd Gertie (I like that one, Tom!) that subject alone makes me want to imbibe earlier than usual.

NO offense taken Theodorebear Ted – just pleased to know that you seem to be getting your “stride” back with more frequent appearances at the best bar in cyber space! [tup]


OK – I’ll have #3 from the Menu Board – another cuppa Joe and a couple of those great biscuits from the Mentor Village Bakery. Here’s a ten spot in the form of a roll of quarters for the juke jar now known as “Coal Scuttle.” [swg]


Hope to return this afternoon – have another “appointment” to keep with the Mrs.


Until the next time!

Lars
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Posted by passengerfan on Thursday, April 27, 2006 7:36 AM
Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for milk and a Crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

Don't know what kind of Dr's they are assigning me these days. But they sure know how to torture someone. No coffee and I normally drink ten or twelve cups daily and milk . Haven't drank milk since can't remember when. But not ordinary milk just skim. On some mornings the water from the tap looks stronger than that stuff.

Enough of my complaining just had to get in another WP piece.

Western
Pacific
(WP)
Streamlined Dome Cars
by Al

The Western Pacific was the third owning and operating partner in the alliance (CB&Q-D&RGW-WP) that operated the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR. The Western Pacific was responsible for the operation of these trains between Salt Lake City, Utah and Oakland, California. The VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYRS initial terminal in Oakland was actually Oakland Pier where passengers boarded a Southern Pacific bay ferry for the last four miles of the trip to San Francisco. The WP part of the operation was 924 miles and in both directions the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR traversed Niles Canyon and the magnificent Feather River Canyon in daylight giving passengers spectacular views.
The WP owned 24-VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR cars initially; eleven were domes comprising seven Vista - Dome 46-leg rest seat coaches, two Vista - Dome Buffet Lounge Crew Dormitory cars, and two Vista-Dome Sleeper Lounge Observations.
The VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR cars were received in the last half of 1948 and first quarter of 1949. The VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYRS entered service from Oakland Pier and Chicago on March 19, 1949.
The following is a list of the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR cars owned by the Western Pacific.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 46-LEG-REST COACHES Budd Company February – May 1948 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

WP

811 SILVER DOLLAR

812 SILVER FEATHER

813 SILVER PALACE

814 SILVER SAGE

815 SILVER SCHOONER

816 SILVER SCOUT

817 SILVER THISTLE

Initially 811 SILVER DOLLAR and 812 SILVER FEATHER were the designated women and children’s coaches owned by the WP in this lot, the eighteen leg rest seats forward of the dome was reserved for women and children traveling alone or together. They were identical to the other Vista-Dome Coaches owned by the Western Pacific except they had a door in the passage way beneath the dome. Later this was removed and the reserved seating in these cars was treated as all other coach seating in the VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR.

24-SEAT VISTA-DOME 19-SEAT COFFEE SHOP 7-SEAT LOUNGE BUFFET 17-CREW DORMITORY CARS Budd Company November 1948 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

WP

831 SILVER CHALET

832 SILVER HOSTEL

24-SEAT VISTA DOME 3-DOUBLE BEDROOM 1-DRAWING ROOM BAR 12-SEAT LOUNGE 18-SEAT LOUNGE OBSERVATION Budd Company December 1948 – January 1949 Plan: 9511 Lot: 9659-021 (Built for and assigned to VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR)

WP

881 SILVER HORIZON

882 SILVER PLANET

On March 19, 1970 the final VISTA-DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR departed from Oakland bound for Chicago. The train had lasted 21 years to the day and the Western Pacific had lost money for the past eight years on the train before being granted permission to discontinue the train.
Three months after the train was discontinued in June 1970 the WP sold all seven Vista-Dome coaches to Auto-Train. For further details on these cars see the Auto-Train chapter.
In April 1970 the BN owned Vista Dome Buffet Lounge Dormitory car 252 SILVER ROUNDUP burned while in the Oakland Coach yard. In settlement with the BN the WP transferred ownership of WP 831 SILVER CHALET to the BN. The car became second 252 but retained its WP name SILVER CHALET. The BN actually assigned BN number 804 to the car but it was never actually applied. See BN chapter for further details of this car.
After being stored in Oakland since the VISTA-DOME CALFORNIA ZEPHYR was discontinued the 832 SILVER HOSTEL was sold August 21, 1972 for use as the Train Stop restaurant in Blackfoot, Idaho. This endeavor sold the car to the D&RGW in 1975 where it was used as a parts source for the RIO GRANDE ZEPHYR (former CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR) cars. When the SP was bought out by the D&RGW the car became SP property October 13, 1988, the SP name was selected for the new company. Car SP832 not much more than a shell by this time was sold to Empire Builder private rail cars/Vista-Dome Adventures Hooper, Nebraska in 1994. Almost immediately the car was resold to Kasten/ Illinois Transit Assembly. Five years later in 1999 the car was sold to the Feather River Railroad Society Museum located in Portola, California where the car has remained since November 1999.
The 881 SILVER CRESCENT was purchased by Liquid Crystal Sugar Inc./ Jolly Rancher Candies in Wheatridge, Colorado in March 1972 for use as a company business car for the exclusive use of William Harmsen. For operation in Amtrak trains the car was assigned the number 800293 during this period of its existence. In March 1981 the car was donated to the Gold Coast Railway Museum in Miami, Florida.
On August 16, 1992 a tropical depression was born off the west coast of Africa, within 24 hours it had grown to the point where it was classified as a tropical storm and received the name Andrew, as it was the first of that season. The tropical storm moved rapidly west and northwest gaining strength all the while. Tropical storm Andrew became a full-blown hurricane on August 22, 1992 and two days later as a category 4 hurricane it slammed ashore on Florida’s east coast just south of Miami at 5:00AM. In this one of the most destructive hurricanes in U.S. history the Gold Coast Railway Museum received major damage too much of its equipment and structures. Among the damaged cars was the former WP 881 SILVER CRESCENT. The car was eventually sent to Illinois Transit Assembly for repair and restoration and was returned to the museum in 1998.
The 882 SILVER PLANET was initially sold to the Oregon Pacific & Eastern for excursion service out of their Cottage Grove, Oregon operation in February 1972. The City of Los Angeles purchased the car for a commuter operation in 1975 and renamed the car LA 108 SAN FERNANDO. The car entered service for its new owner in February 1978. The new service lasted six months and the car was stored in Los Angeles after that until 1987 when the car was sold to the Copper canyon Tours Company becoming CCTX 108 SAN FERNANDO. Sometime during its first few months of operation the car was renamed CHIHUAHUA. The car was transferred to Chihuahua Pacific ownership as partial payment for money owed. Soon after the car was transferred to the Ferrocarril del Pacifico who restored the sleeping car accommodations and assigned the car to Business car service out of Guadalajara. In the merger of the Mexican systems the car became National de Mexico 108.
Today, a group in San Luis Potosi, Mexico owns the former WP car. The group named Silver Creek International operates charters and the Dome Observation numbered 100 and named SAN LUIS is undergoing restoration as this is written.


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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:43 AM
Good morning this promising Thursday with the hope of rain in my area.[^] Tom, I'm going to pretend that yesterday never happened and have a double O.J. and and cuppa Joe to consumate the passing.[tdn] In my panic to get out the door, I ovelooked lars and you at your labors. That just ain't me. Some colleagues (volunteers) have been "dumping" their loads on me, making for a longer day and unsettled atmosphere. We'll see how this "shakes out" over the next week.

Surely enjoyed reminiscing with all of you yesterday. I had both A.F and Lionel periods of yore before succumbing to HO for greater accuracy and operations. My Alco FA and B (U.P.) balked and yanked the Lionel five car freight around. Remember those Lionel "over sized " trucks and wheel sets? But, that was yesterday and today is for new topics and it appears that Rob and me may have sown the seeds for a future treatise by West Coast Dave on S.N., T.S. and even possibly a Key System connection.[^] I found a cou[ple of URL's on these roads via Google. Apparantly, "O" gauge modelers took a great interest in the S.N. here in the East as well. Why not? The Road boasted the longest electrified mainline in the world at on point (Sacramento - Chico, CA). The box/steeple locos and interurban cars provided efficient, competitive service and had wide appeal to the Bay area residents of that era.

Fish and chips day! I wonder if I could place an order for Shrimp Tempura with accompaning vegis this p.m.? Mike, your links to the W.P and British sources really were "on target" as per usual, thank you. Again, I'm running near the "margin" this a.m. but hope to return at dusk. Pete, I'm not sure the Alco PA's in G.N. livery would stand-up to those great looking EMD's E-series. Okay, interruption number one and probably more to come. Boris give it a peal and I'm talking about old "99" not those weird duds you're wearing.[V] Happy rails.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:21 AM

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• I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.

• Gardening Rule: When weeding, the best way to make sure you are removing a weed and not a valuable plant is to pull on it. If it comes out of the ground easily, it is a valuable plant.

• The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement.

• Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

• There are two kinds of pedestrians: the quick and the dead.

• Life is sexually transmitted.

• Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

• The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.

• Some people are like Slinkies. Not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

• Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals
dying of nothing.


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SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 05:23:12 (315) Wednesday’s Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 06:07:38 (315) Standard for American Toy Trains, etc. & joke!

(3) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 06:30:52 (315) Lars has the Bar!

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 06:47:19 (315) Bear Talk!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 07:15:40 (315) Comments, etc.

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 07:46:56 (315) Lars has the Bar!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 08:16:12 (315) 5 Pike Perspective Pix

(8) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 08:50:31 (315) Lars has the Bar!

(9) BudKarr BK Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:14:57 (315) BK Report!

(10) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:25:54 (315) Coalminer’s thoughts!

(11) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:36:50 (315) Going off duty

(12) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:41:39 (315) Inclusive :Post, etc.

(13) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 11:03:46 (315) Inclusive Post, etc.

(14) pwolfe Pete Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 11:57:35 (315) Inclusive Post, etc.

(15) pwolfe Pete Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 12:26:31 (315) for Rob

(16) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 15:33:30 (315) PM visit

(17) pwolfe Pete Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 17:58:54 (315) Inclusive Post, etc.

(18) barndad Doug Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 17:59:14 (315) Inclusive Post & Cartoon, etc.

(19) passengerfan Al Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 18:23:05 (316) Comments

(20) wanswheel Mike Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 18:57:28 (316) URLs for the Customers!

(21) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 20:09:35 (316) Acknowledgments, etc.

(22) West Coast S Dave Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 20:11:47 (316) Left Coast report!

(23) siberianmo Tom Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 20:43:05 (316) reply to Dave




That’s it! [tup][;)]


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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:43 PM
Yo Left Coast Dave!

Whazup[?] Two consecutive WEEKDAY days!! Careful, you might just become a "regular" again. [swg]

Don't even want to know what kind of a "system" or "procedure" you follow in order to access your Email - suffice it to say, you have one from me pending.

Yesterday is gone - it's TODAY we're talkin' about! But, given that this is coming to us via the faaaaaaaaaaar western reaches of this grand land - perhaps there's a time warp involved! [swg]

If you've taken the time to check the Posts along the way, you'll find that several of the guys appreciate your return and vast knowledge of our subject - Classic Trains! [tup]

Interesting bit of personal history and now we know "where" you "originated!" A train kinda guy from the get-go - lots of railroading in that part of the Keystone State - one of my favorite areas from way back when . . . Never walked the tracks to my "love interest's" place - but I've walked a few planks . . . [swg]

Have one on me! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by West Coast S on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:11 PM
Afternoon all, Tom will have to access your message from a different system, expect a reply tomorrow and no, useually I don't delete without noting who the person is, oh well, hidden signs of advancing old age is my excuse and i'm sticking with it!!

Seems we had a grand time on WP Tuesday.

Rod did a great job with the SN operations, Now for some personal observations, I grew up in Pittsburg and knew the area well, as a love smitten teenager I had a love interest that resided in West Pittsburg, lacking a car, I would walk the SN right of way to her house. At that time (mid 70's) the trackage was intact from Pittsburg to Port Chicago, though I never saw a movement on it and nature was well at work to erase what man had put in place.

At that time these locations were out in the sticks, Mallard, site of the ferry approach was infested with a Hell's Angel encampment! Good thing I had connections!!!
I explored the area on foot and later by boat, only a few pilings remained, salt marsh grass covered the immediate area to a height of several feet. SN accessed it's ferry from a switch at West Pittsburg, a long pile trestle carried the slip approach across the marsh and several hundered feet over the river to the berth. Once at the slip, the double track terminate into one, the short siding was built on the final straight section and permitted making up/breaking up of freight consist.

If one walked the right of way from the abandoned Mallard connection, the former fill that was used to transation to the trestle was clearly visible, abit over grown, but the native grasses were much less agressive in this area, several deteroriated phone boxes still hung from the few poles that remained. Today development has erased the Mallard I and so many knew.

Dave

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:09 PM
Good Evening Gents!

I have returned to the bar and appreciate the efforts of Lars ‘n Cindy to keep things “ship shape” in my rather prolonged absence! Many THANX! Lars you now occupy a page in ”Our” Place History as the 1st Customer-Guest Bartender we’ve ever had! [tup][tup][tup]

From the looks of things, I wasn’t missed at all – which is really what I had hoped; business (or none) as usual! [swg] Some guys apparently didn’t know the “deal” for today and that either means no reading or just – well, not reading! <grin>

A special THANX to Rob ‘n Pete 'n CM3 for the timely Posts and your efforts to keep things moving . . . Good job! [tup][tup][tup]

Ain’t no way that I want to get into a summarization of each ‘n every Post for the day, as that would surely defeat the purpose of this ‘day off’ for me! So, here’s a rundown of who was in since my last Post of this AM (not “counting” Lars . . . . I HAVE read ‘em all and enjoyed the various and assorted ‘stuff’!! [tup]

BudKarr BK
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:14:57


coalminer3 CM3
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:25:54 & 15:33:30


trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 10:41:39 & 11:03:46


pwolfe Pete
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 11:57:35, 12:26:31 & 17:58:54


barndad Doug
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 17:59:14


passengerfan Al
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 18:23:05


wanswheel Mike
Posted: 26 Apr 2006, 18:57:28



Many THANX to all who bought drinks, provided quarters and for the participation! [tup]


REMINDER: Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


Stick around a few minutes AFTER POSTING - The information you MISS may be for YOU!
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Posted by wanswheel on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:57 PM
Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

Our Gang / Little Rascals dialogue, breakfast at the orphanage

"Don't drink the milk!"
"Why?"
"It's spoiled."
"Don't drink the milk!"
"Why?"
"It's spoiled."
"You kids put that milk on your mush and eat it!"

Dave, 2 photographs of Western Pacific locomotive 94
http://www5.pair.com/rattenne/WP/WP_94.htm

Nick, here in living Sepia is the Rheidol Valley and Railway near Aberystwyth
http://ids.harvard.edu:8080/ids/servlet/imgdelv?id=1416228&buttons=y&viewheight=480&viewwidth=640
QUOTE: Originally posted by nickinwestwales

...The white patch in the background is`The Rheidol Stag`-a local landmark ,a clearing in the woods that,from a distance ( I.E. the train on the other side of the valley ) looks like a running stag...
Then there's the sheep
http://westwales.co.uk/graphics/sheep_bus.jpg
The skinnydipping elephants
http://westwales.co.uk/graphics/elephant.jpg
The Prince of Wales (locomotive)
http://westwales.co.uk/graphics/prince.jpg
And many photos at
http://westwales.co.uk/pictures/pix_list.htm

CM3, the toy museum, Remember the Alamo!
And the days when kids played cowboys and Indians.

Youngsters (Tom and Lars?) and their train set in the 1920s
http://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:RAD.SCHL:297970?buttons=y&viewheight=480&viewwidth=640
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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:23 PM
Good Afternoon Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a (Milk) and a round for the house. Particularly enjoyed the American Flyer picture of an NP PA. It would have been magnificent in 12" to the foot. To bad none of our Northwest Railroads never favored the PA. Imagine the Empire Builder with Alco PA's up front.
The GN did have some Alco FA's in passenger service for a short period assigned I believe to Interbay out of Seattle., before being sold to to the SP&S. Do remember seeing them occasionally in International service. I wouldn't swear to it without checking first but believe they had one FA-FB set equipped with steam generators the rest were freight service only.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:59 PM
Good evening Tom and gents! I'll have my usual bottomless draught, a round for the house, an an extra drink chip for Lars, the morning bartender! Since Peter has seemed to have destroyed lost his honey-do list, I've got a never ending supply of things that need to be done here! Nifty American Flyer catalog covers Mr. Tom!

And now ... this is a test of the Emergency Cartoon Association:

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 5:58 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please Cindy

In England If someone said to the kids we are going to ALTON TOWERS their eyes would light up as mine did over 40 years ago.
Then Alton Towers was famous for its splendid gardens laid out in different styles like Swiss and Chinese which no doubt attracted my parents but for me the excitement ,as we boarded the Midland "Red' motor coach, was what was advertised as "the largest model railway of its type in the world".The gardens also had a Miniture Railway running which was a wonderful distraction from the flora and pagodas I was supposed to look at.
I was hoping to post some pics but there a couple of URLs to see the trains
http://www.towerstimes.co.uk/history/oldrides/modelrailway.htm
http://www.towerstimes.co.uk/history/articles/endofline.htm

Sadly both attractions are no longer,. both victims of a changing way of life. Today's youngsters are attracted there as it is one of the worlds leading Theme parks(their words) with some of the biggest amusement rides.It would take as much, if not more, effort to get me in there now as it took to get me away from the model railway did then.
PETE.

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:33 PM
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

I surely did not mean to slight Lars as guest bartender. But, I thought Cindy was there. Probably a case of being "overlooked" rather than "looked over." Sorry - couldn't resist.

Have a good evening

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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:26 PM
Hi ROB
Just caught your posts, allright Cindy it as gone 12 so I'll try a Bathams.

I see the chap in Doug's post didn't have an 'e' in the Wolf but I have noticed how common the name Wolfe is round here, far more than where I come from, most seem to be quite well off I am hoping they may be some distant relatives[:-^].

The Bride as gone away for a couple of days with work and the dog as eaten the Honey-Do list at least it did when I put some dog food on it [:)][:-,] PETE.
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Posted by pwolfe on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:57 AM
Hi Tom And All.

It seems I have just missed LARS busy turn as barkeep. I'm glad you enjoyed it. and you done a great job [^[bow].

I see the barrel of Bathams has arrived[^]. The Steam railway magazine has a section called the Glorious Years which features photos of steam in BR days. A few years back they gave a supplement away with the mag called the Glorious Beers which told of the real ales which could be found near preserved lines in it it told of the amount of Bathams that is sold in the Railwayman's Arms on Bridgnorth station on the Severn Valley Railway, Lars comment on how much beer we get through brought this to mind. It seems beer and railways go together.
Having said that I had better have a coffee this morning.

A great fini***o WP day yesterday with ALs Streamlined details and MIKEs great links, loved the night photos and the great scenery the California Zephyr travelled through. The link on the WP electric lines showed a photo of a diesel on one of the lines which tied in with ROBs great post on the WP electric lines[tup] I am still looking for some info on Brit HEP Rob.

NICK Great info on the Vof R[tup]. Sorry you missed KE1 on the special. I have found this link which I hope you will find of some use.
http://www.uksteam.info/tours/trs06.htm

DOUG Many thanks for the very detailed post with photos on the Lionel Standard especially with all the work you have going on [tup][bow][yeah]. Loved yesterdays joke[:D].

CM3 I will have to study the links they look great[tup].

TED I very much hope you can make it to MO this year and LARS idea of a mini rendezvous would be magical. To see the Can-Am in person really is a treat and the museum at Kirkwood is well worth a visit.

BK I think we will have to get Lars back behind the bar so he can practise the Sothern Comfort serving. I bet he will do a great job of serving the Bathams[tup].

Tom Its good to see you this side of the bar and putting the stool to good use. Great American Flyer catalog covers and interesting comparison to the Lionel ones you posted. Like the new Comedy Corner[tup].

I hope to be back later with a model layout story later .MY this coffee is good today Is BORIS's sock really the secret ingrediant[?] PETE.
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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:03 AM
Well Lars looks like a pretty successful first foray behind da bar other than the slight headache[swg] I see that Mr Coalminer has poped by as well as your bookend, good to see both of you gents in this morning as well.

BK You will notice that all reserved abd permanent stools had seat belts installed. Mostly due to the highly polished sheen Boris is want to give them, that and for decorum. The reserved and permenant stools must be upright at all times while at the bar ( it's written on the back of the coasters in red crayon ) Most likley a tweetable offence otherwise.

CM3 Wonderfull urls sir, very much appropriate to today's diongs and shakings ! Gas is still hovering at the $1.07 a litre here but no there's no collusion around these parts either.Even inspecter Clueless won't touch that one for all the money in Texas [swg] Interesting that the TS's boxcars would travel so often to the absolute opposite part of the country. I do however rember seeing many a SN boxcar in Ontario when I was a kid growing up so alls fair in pooled rail equipment eh ?

Pete I see that you are in hows about sharing a pot of tea unless it's too much " WORK " [swg] BTW got your email figured you and your wife would have enjoyed that.

Gotta run work becons [sigh] Cindy seems wild and reved to go for some reason however. [;)]

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Posted by trolleyboy on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:41 AM

Good morning Lars and everyone else[:)]. Seems like everyone is misbehaving well this morning,nice to see Cindy sort of[;)][:I]. I think a number 3 off the menu for me this morning should do just about right along with a karaf of coffee,and a mentor apple turnover.No Boris I don't want the sleeze bean dip with that,it's a bit heavy as a breakfast food[xx(]

Nice to see so many faces in already this morning seeing as how bright and sunny it is ( at least here )Oh lars watch out behind you bwooong gwooong. Ooh sorry bout that I see Boris has now iniated you officially as a guest bartender. Ole 99 over the head and a couple of gongs. Not to worry the vertigo will pass along with the ringing in your ears[;)][:o)]

Doug fine pikes post this morning sir, nice shots of the old and the bold there in the article. And hey on this forum yiou can mention MTH and not get the usual crap that the name envokes out on the main forums[:(!] Quite the character Mr Wolfe, I wonder if he is a rencarnation of Mr Cowen,the personaalities are similar at any rate.

Tom Nice nostalgic posters,are copies going up in the bars Water Closets ? I'm glad to see that your stool's obviously built for two ( nice feature eh )[:I][:D]

Ted Howdy do there Sir Ted, yes my pike is in a veritable holding pattern as well It will marcjh forward however. I like the uidea of doing a wider SN and TS disscussion, I will however need some support, what I put up yesterday is the sum total I know,please feel free to jump in and perhpas if the gods of the west coast are favouring us Dave can chip in as well.I'm with you, I have no taste for busses of any variety epeacially on any sort of long run. Wheels aand Rails baby is where it's at.

Well if rambled enough, back later. Lars here's a twenty to perpetuate a round or so with once the heavier stuff starts flowing. Oh and don't let Boris and Tex give you any lip about the keg un loading,its their job.

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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:36 AM
Gentlemen!

Belly up to the bar and have a round on me! [tup]

Time’s approaching when I’ll have to make way for duties above and beyond the scope of the bar. The wife beckons . . . [swg]

Good to see my “bookend” this morning and always enjoy the thoughts from “the mountaintop!” [tup] Sticking around the property, eh[?] Not a bad idea, I’m sure “she” will find all sorts of things that require YOUR attention! [swg]

Coalminer3 has visited with one of his typical great morning posts. But, I’m a bit “slighted” – no mention of my being here, tending to the needs of one and all! Hmmmmm, must be chagrined at me for the “coal-what’s-his-face” stuff! Enjoyed your URLs and the rest, in spite of it all!

The “bar” thanks your for the quarters and round. Boris loves to play with those quarter rolls – and Tex scampers across the floor until he catches up with the rolling roll, then commences to tear it to shreds. Quarters, quarters everywhere, and not a one to “clink!” <boo, hiss>

Okay guys, it’s been “real!”

CINDY has the bar (and anything else she wants!!)[swg]



Until the next time!

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Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:25 AM
Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please, rpound for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Cold front rolled through here last evening just on the way home from work. I love horizontal rain accompanied by strike after strike of lightning - who needs headlights!? Anyway it's a lot cooler here today than yesterday. Gas is $2.99/gal. this a.m. Same price everywhere, and there's "no collusion according to highly-placed sources."

"What a day!" as Curly once said. I am, of course, referring to WP material yesterday.

Lars- Silver Crescent shot was a keeepr.

Tom - Zephyr ads. Who else out there remembers i column-wide ads that WP used to run for the Zephyr in the National Geographic? Black and white with line drawings with red used as a spot color - simple design, yet very effective.

Dave - Thanks for sharing the collection of material on the WP.

Then we had Wanswheel's URL highlights - thanks!

I see where Nick can't escape from mining (I know it goes with that part of the word). At least he can dig on your property. Right under the grass at our palatial dwelling is a several foot thick layer of red dog (obviously used to level the land) with sandstone right under that. Ebquiring minds want to know how he shot all that rock w/o disturbing the neighbors.

Rob had some interesting material on Sac No. and TS. For some reason, Tidewater Southern boxcars were fairly regular visitors on the L&N when I lived in Nashville; most oif the time, they came in from the west on the old NC&StL. (Tom, there's a theme possibility for you).

Now today is Pike Perspectives and we begin with Barndad's post on (OMG!) Standard Gauge. My! my! I guess that's why I always liked NYC's S motors.

Then our 'steamed proprietor provided some vintage AF material.

A story on the news brought Marx (Toys, not Karl, Boris!) to mind. My first trian - ever - was a Marx product. There is a Marx Musuem in Glen Dale, WV which I will have to go visit sometime soon. Their URL is posted below - you can click on the images and enlarge them. It ain't just trains here, but a lot of other icons of our youth (misspent or otherwise!)

Here are a couple of URLs on Marx material which should really get the nostalgia going.

http://www.marxtoymuseum.com

This is more rail-oreinted and has some interesting background on Marx trains.

htp://www.thortrains.net/marstart.html

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Posted by BudKarr on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:14 AM
Good Morning “Guest Barkeep” Lars and all assembled!


Something different today – ah, my “bookend” has managed to get himself installed BEHIND the bar. Heretofore a privilege reserved for the holders of the “Permanent Stools,” or so I thought! [swg] A new day and new ways – this idea of “Guest Bartender’ is something that I hope takes hold. Good approach! [tup][tup]


As has been my practice, I’m a bit “light” on the substantive material for most “special days,” this being no exception. I do enjoy the browsing and reading though and appreciate the work others have put forth to keep this idea of “Pike Perspectives” moving forward. Nice work, Gentlemen! [tup]

Lars Man I will have a Southern Comfort on the rocks – no, no – you don’t shake those nor do you stir them! Watching far too many “James Bond” movies I believe! [swg] And, a round for the house if you please.

News from the mountaintop is we are NOT going anywhere this weekend. At least thus far I have not been so apprised! [swg] So, it is my hope that I will be able to maintain a posture at the bar (as in upright on the stool!) throughout the coming days! <laugh>

We will be heading “down the mountain” for a mid-week “vitals” trip, perhaps a stop at our favorite Inn for lunch and then back home. Ah, life is grand when one does not have to be concerned about the things I used to be concerned about! Now that is a mouthful, indeed.

If you happen to catch these words, Captain Tom I want to say again how much I enjoyed the Canadian Pacific spread and all the efforts put into them. Good show! Also, the “theme” for yesterday seemed to have attracted quite a few others with all of the additional information provided. Well done, again! [tup][tup]

One more if you please, barkeep!


Enjoy the day, Gentlemen!


BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada’s high mountain country!
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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:50 AM
Lars has the Bar!

Nice catalogs, Tom! Never get tired looking at those remembrances from my youth! Although, as the 50s gathered momentum, my toy train days were falling back . . .

American Flyer had some great stuff out there and as with your comments on earlier pages, it was a great toy train manufacturer - A.C. Gilbert of New Haven, Connecticut! Chees to all who made such an impression for and with the youth of the day (and today!) [tup][tup][tup]

One day I'll get the "bug" and assemble all of those trains I've spoken of. Just has to be 'right' if you know what I mean. My idea of a hobby is something to act as a diversion from everyday life. Well, retirement is my diversion right now! [swg] Man oh man am I ever diverted! <grin/groan>

I've got just about 2 hours left on my "shift" then hopefully we'll see a "relief" stroll in . . . Cindy IS here and said she'd "watch the store" as long as necessary! Well, that's fine - we'll be watching her as she's watching us! <grin>

C'mon guys, the food's ready and the conversation doesn't cost a thing, other than your time!

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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:16 AM
G’day!

It’s Pike Perspective’s Day! at ”Our” Place! Here’s a little something to perhaps rekindle some interest in the “Classic Toy Trains” that many of us recall from those childhood days of long ago. If you were like any of the guys I knew back then, these are the things dreams were made of:


1950 American Flyer catalog




1952 American Flyer catalog




1953 American Flyer catalog




1955 American Flyer catalog





1956 American Flyer catalog



I'll be gone for the day . . .

Enjoy![tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:46 AM
Morning Gents!

Nice to see ya this fine day, Kapitan Tom - you look fine on that side of the bar and perhaps we can do this more often! [tup]

I think we need to get Ted's "specs" prescription renewed - how could he have missed me behind the bar - it's not that I'm a little fella <grin>!! And you were right over there - as Flip Wilson used to say on his TV show - "in the back, in the corner where it's dark!" - leave it to you, Tom to come up with that! [swg][tup]

Catalyst around here is hands down our Proprietor. Next are the guys who keep the ball rolling with the timely, informative and well done posts throughout any given week. So, that makes it a synergestic event, huh[?] [yeah] Makes sense to me - none of this would work at all with all of the parts in synch . . . [tup]

I see that Wednesday is "beer barrel delviery day" - or B2D2 for the formula oriented amongst you! [swg] Anyway, I hope Boris' back can handle it! Do we REALLY go through THAT MANY barrels in a week[?] Good Gawd Gertie (an expression "lifted" from Tom) someone around here must be overdoing it . . . [swg]

Tom I was thinking out loud about a trip to the mid west and it appears to me that there is a possibility that it could work out. I'd love to see your Can-Am "museum, operating model railroad and Biergärten!" More via e-mail as developments unfold. Perhaps Pete could also find his way to your place and we could haved a "mini-rendezvous" take place!

Sports report: The Cardinals and Mets now have identical records for this early stage of the season. Cream always rises to the top, they say! Also see the White Sox right back where they seem to thrive - 1st place. Well, it is a loooooooong season, and we'll see what it all looks like in a couple of months. Still excited about my team's chances - but the reality sets in rather quickly when one takes the time to check out the other guy's team and talents. <groan>

Ok - 'nuf from the rambling "Guest Barkeep!" So, who's ready for a refill[?

Lars
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Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:15 AM
Mornin' Gents!

Three morning visitors - Doug - Lars 'n Ted - and it's just a tad after 7 AM (Central) - not a bad start! [tup]

Thanx for taking the bar for the AM "shift," Lars - it seems a bit odd being on this side of it! [swg] I'll just have to make an adjustment or two to my "custom permanent stool" (a gift from Count Robulla & the H&H gals) - latch 'er down and I'll be all set.

Number #3 from the Menu Board should be fine, thanx - I've alread sampled the turnovers in The Mentor Village Bakery case . . . [swg] Ummmmmmmm, coffee's good on a chilly morning . . . [tupp]

I'm going to retract my "threat" about Posting some Pix from my "Commemorative Run" of "The Canadian" on the Can-Am right of way. Those shots will show up for Sunday Photo Posting Day! Not that long of a wait for anyone filled with anticipation! [swg]

Must admit that your "Top Ten" really hit it off for me this day, Doug! [swg] Good job. [tup] Also I'll enjoy reading the article on toy trains - from what I've gathered thus far, it is a "good-un!" [tup]

Good to see ya stop by, Ted - I was here, perhaps you just didn't see my over in the corner, in the back, where it's dark! No, no - that's NOT Cindy back there . . . [}:)][:-,]


Catch y'all later - on 'n off - and many THANX, Lars for the respite . . . [tup][tup][tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:47 AM
And a jolly good Pikes Perspective Day to one and all.This joint was "jumpin" yesterday and the only catalyst I am aware of is the W.P. and related Theme. Al, by gadfrey, it is good to see y'all nice and pastuerized or is that homoginized? Tom or Lars (whomsoever), I should follow Al's good example with a Bovine bracer but not now, maybe after "Big T"... "maybe"... that is.[swg] Sorry about these ungodly early posts but its "either or" in my case; the "or" being nada! Rob looks like we are in similar dire straits with our respective Pikes. No sooner did my "well intentioned" roadbed changes get underway than (as you know) "all hell broke loose." Already upper 80's deg. F. with suffocating humidity is upon us hereabouts.[tdn] Oh well, the work isn't going any where, right? BTW, your mention of the Sacramento Northern and Tidewater "connection" (to W.P.) would make a superb Theme for another day. Then, if one could "tie in " with the San Fran ancient Key System, what a tour-de-force that would make.


Nick old chap, "computer generated images" or C.G I. caused quite a stir among the "rank and file." Your descriptive words on the geography of the land in question should definitely cast all doubts aside. Doug, "keep a stiff upper lip," while all these activities crash around you. At least that way you will have a firm "lip lock" on your favorite quaff...the only answer under such duress.[(-D] Pete, I won't know the "lay of the land" for months on a Mo Jo joy ride. The pitiful reality is that going via Amtrak; a stinking bus ride from Memphis to St. Louis is part of the (or)deal.[V] Not for me! If I can pull it off, it would be a flight direct to Kcity and car rental for "run outs." It's still on the back burner of the Barbie outside. Gadzooks look at the time! I should be on U.S. route 60 crossing the Courtney Campbell causeway by now. Hit the bell Boris, and Tom or Lars, please an "open bar" on me until this Jackson runs out, okay? Happy rails
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Posted by LoveDomes on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:30 AM
Good Morning Proprietor Tom and fellow traveles at the bar!

Yes - I made it! "The Lars Man" now has the bar! Boris ring the bell - round up Tex and get the OJ flowing to one and all! [tup]

Did I count correctly[?] Ten individuals visited the bar yesterday, with several making multiple posts! Outstanding - and it appears that the "Tuesday theme" idea has won wide enthusiasm. Great idea!

Also a fine start to this day with the always informative SUMMARY followed by Doug's eye-opener for "Pike Perspective Days!" The joke, however . . . . [swg]

I will be here for the morning, but must skeedaddle for pressing matters requiring my attention this afternoon. Family stuff . . . .

How about some breakfast[?]

Lars

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