"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Good early morning everyone. Tom & Nick Excellant shots[tup] It's nice to see layouts that are operational and to see the level of co-operation between you two gents on maintaining the Nicks pics albums good stuff.Tom I can see myself riding along the canam as well kudos for sure. I only hope that once seniced my layout will be close to your level of thought and detail [tup] Also Tom I didn't actually find the "girls" they were dropped off at the museums front gate.[;)][:0] They have limited social, skills as they are the female equivalent of Boris so releasing them in a "target rich " environment like Toronto is not recomended[B)] BTW dave the little blue pills you use on Boris work equally well on the girls so transporting them to and rom our oktoberfest days won't be a problem.[;)] BTW Tom they did say something about doing a snitzel making contest next week. Ted No problem mentioning the railimages site and no problem if you wi***o add more of your shots to it. If you want me to post some of your shots next week let me know [tup][:)] Nick The first shot was MS&C 302 a single truck single ended snowsweeper. The body was built by ruggels a small US car manufacturer the guts were McGuire cummings origin a major US work equipment and traction passenger car manufacturer. The flat motor was built by the Grand trunk railway in house ( MS&C's owner ) Quite often as in this shot a small derrik was fit to the deck used mostly for tie & rail replacement. russell A couple of fine pictures there and an interesting url to boot. Troy what can I say you are a master craftsman [tup] I'm dying to see the completed PCC car once I get the pictures to you. It will be a welcome edition to be sure. from the limited scratch building I've done in HO I can only imagine how much time went into those cars. truely stunning work.[^] Well gents i'll bid everyone good night and a happy Thanksgiving/ Columbus day to you all. I'm heading to moms for the big feast tomorrow so I'll be a late arriver as per usual. Oh Nick 43lbs [wow][:0] I can hardley wait to see the fuel bill for that bird to be cooked[:0][8] Good thing you had boris to wring it's neck that ws one tough looking bird. Are you sure that it wasn't a small ostrich[?] Later all. Rob

[siberianmo]

MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Good Morning Guys!

Check out the pastry case full of fresh goods from The Mentor Village Bakery along with our freshly ground and brewed coffee. Don’t forget our <light> breakfasts on the Menu Board. Enjoy! [tup]

HAPPY CANADIAN THANKSGIVING DAY! to all of our friends north of the 49th! (Well, some are south of the 49th – but then again – close enough, eh [?]) [swg]

Happy Columbus Day! for those who even know it’s a holiday here in the States! [swg] Aside from Federal employees, banks and our Post Office, I don’t know who else is off here in Missouri. <geesh>

For the life of me, I don’t know WHY in the world this day is continued as a federal holiday. We all know WHO really ‘discovered’ North America – and it wasn’t Columbus! [swg] Long live the memory of the Vikings. Okay, okay Vito the Hit – don’t take it personally! You can have the day off …….. [|(]

Info for the Day:

Wednesday, Oct 12th: The 6th month Anniversary of the creation of ”Our” Place. All of our customers are requested to Post a PERSONAL story regarding a rail experience (passenger or freight).

INDEX

Index pages for Fallen Flags, etc.

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

106 – SP
106 – MoPac
108 – WP
109 – Frisco
112 – CNR (passenger ops)
112 – CNR Super Continental Time Table
112 – Heralds of the Fallen Flags
113 - Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 “Start ups” 1800’s & early 1900’s
114 – ACL
115 – SCL
116 - D&RGW
117 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
118 – RI
119 – D&H
120 - PRR
121 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 CP Hotels & Lodges
122 – NYC
124 – A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip
124 – UP (passenger ops)
125 – AT&SF
127 – B&O
127 – B&O Strata-Dome ad
127 – B&O Encor! ad
128 – CM&StP
129 – CB&Q
129 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 – Soo Line
130 – Great Britain Nostalgia #1 East Coast Route

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 01:13:14 (132) Pix

(2) troybetts Troy Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 02:15:57 (132) Pix

(3) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 08:02:56 (132)

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 08:36:07 (132) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 08:53:36 (132) Nick’s Pix

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 08:56:10 (132)

(7) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 10:17: (132)

(8) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 14:22:14 (132) Pix

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 14:30:50 (132) More Nick’s Pix

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 14:52:03 (132) catch up

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 15:06:57 (132) Pix

(12) passengerfan Al Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 15:47:03 (132)

(13) BudKarr BK Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 18:16:58 (132)

(14) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 18:36:30 (132)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 19:20:01 (132) catch up

(16) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 21:09:34 (132)

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 21:49:02 (132) reply to Theodorebear

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!


6th Month Anniversary this Wednesday!

[siberianmo]

G'mornin' All!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING DAY in CANADA!

Here's a little something to kick off the day with the proper spirit!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #5

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from 1886:


A Red Letter DAY

For – Canada

June 28, ‘86

… WHEN THE …

CANADIAN PACIFIC Railway

OPENS to the PACIFIC OCEAN

………. TRAIN LEAVES DAILY: ……….
Toronto, - - - - - - 5.00 p.m.
Montreal - - - - - - 8.00 “
Ottawa, - - - - - - 11.45 “
………. except Sunday ……….

OUR OWN LINE

………. FROM THE ……….
ATLANTIC to the PACIFIC

NO CUSTOMS – NO DELAYS – NO TRANSFERS –
LOW RATES – QUICK TIME

for further particulars apply to any Agent of the Company, or to
W. D. HUGHES, Traveling Passenger Agent
W. R. CALLAWAY, District Passenger Agent
………. 110 King Street West, Toronto ……….

W. C. VAN HORNE, Vice President
GEO. OLDS, Cust. Traffic Manager
D. McNICOLL, General Pass. Agent
………. MONTREAL……….


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

6th Month Anniversary this Wednesday!

[siberianmo]

Okay Boyz, if you liked that one, check out this one!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #6

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this poster out regarding the Canadian Pacific from the 1950’s:


Canadian Pacific … by land … across Canada

Now see Canadian Pacific’s spectacular Banff-Lake Louise Route
From the Scenic Domes of the “The Canadian”

Mile-high in the Canadian Rockies, Banff Springs is famous the world over for its scenic surroundings, complete outdoor recreation facilities. Both Banff and nearby Lake Louise are on the route of “The Canadian.”

Treat yourself to the world’s longest, most spectacular Scenic Dome ride as “The Canadian” winds through the Canadian Rockies on its transcontinental route. From high in the Scenic Domes of Canda’s only stainless-steel Scenic Dome streamliner you’ll thrill to the breath-taking view of Canada’s unspoiled natural beauty. And aboard “The Canadian” you’ll find the accommodations superb, the service unexcelled. You may travel tourist or first class – coach seats reserved at no extra fare.

See your travel agent for information about “The Canadian” – in daily service throughout the year between Montreal or Toronto, and Vancouver.

Canadian Pacific
World’s Greatest Travel System

RAILWAYS – STEAMSHIPS – AIRLINES – HOTELS – COMMUNICATIONS – EXPRESS

HAPPY THANKSGIVING DAY in CANADA!

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

6th Month Anniversary this Wednesday!

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago & Northwestern (C&NW)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:-

1950 – 9,693
1955 – 5,000

Locomotives in 1963: Diesel – 744

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars – 41.383 Passenger cars – 447

Principal lines in 1950:

Chicago-Fremont & Omaha, NE
Fremont-Lander, WY
Nelson, IL-Madison, Il (St. Louis)
Chicago-Minneapolis, MN via Madison & Wyeville, WI
Milwaukee-Rapid City, SD via Wyeville, WI & Mankato, MN
Eau Claire, WI-Duluth,MN
Chicago-Milwaukee via Kenosha, WI
Chicago-Milwaukee via Bain, WI
Milwaukee-Green Bay via Fond du Lac, WI
Green Bay-Ashland, WI via Rhinelander
Green Bay-Ishpeming, MI
Powers, MI-Hurley, WI
Minneapolis & St. Paul-Omaha via Mankato
Lake Crystal (Mankato)-Des Moines, IA

Passenger trains of note:

Ashland Limited (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland)
Dakota “400” (Chicago-Madison-Huron, SD)
Duluth-Superior Limited (Chicago-Madison-Duluth)
Flambeau “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Ashland)
Kate Shelly “400” (Chicago-Boone, IA)
North Western Limited (Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis)
Peninsula “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Ishpeming)
Shoreland “400” (Chicago-Milwaukee-Green Bay)
Twin Cities “400”(Chicago-St. Paul-Minneapolis)
Valley “400” (Chicago-Green Bay-Menominee, MI)

Of note: C&NW also was a forwarder for UP’s streamliners and Domeliners (ie: City of Los Angeles, City of Portland) between Chicago & Omaha until Oct 1955.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

6th Month Anniversary this Wednesday!

[Anonymous]

Let's hear a chorus of "Oh Canada" by our mens Madrigal Singers. The 43 lbs. Turkey has been plucked, stuffed (ham dressing) and is now being levered into our outside brick kiln. For Columbus Day, the Lasagne, Italian sausages, pasta and meat balls are prepared. The Marinara sauce has been simmering since late last night.[tup] Should be a great amalgam of Anglo/Mediterranean flavors. Tom, make mine a Ballantine India Pale Ale, if you please. Gurggle, gurggle, "Our" Place kitchen and Staff are ready, are you?

Yesterday was a roaring sucess with fine pix from all parameters of "Our" Place territory. Like Fallen Flags, this feature is another winner. Conspicously absent were those who are "away" or otherwise indisposed for the moment. Think what this will be when all our Members have returned...awesome![^] Tom, although I have visited your site many times, those crisp clean scenes along the CanAm are irrestible. Also, the "nitty gritty" of contributions by Nick, Rob and Russell are worthy of the highest praise.[tup][tup][tup]. Rob, I've sent mail in re: my additional pix of "little" K.C., MO.[:D]

Now, what of all this scuttlebutt concerning your hard working Manager?[:O] Balderdash I say! Are my efforts only to be made sport of?"[swg] Speaking of which, I noticed on our "social calendar" that Boris has a birthday on Oct. 31st. Hardly a surprise given the signifigance of that date.[alien] BTW, you will notice there are no horse shoe tossing events. Due to an inadvertant "toss," our Cheif [C=:-)] suffered a blow to his cranium.[V] From now on, we will use dried horse dung copiously supplied by member barndad Doug. I was hoping for more pix on Gunns progress on that beautiful A.T.S.F. Northern...maybe next week? Yeah, I know...maybe never!

There is much to do, so I need to get my "act together." Please share this Holiday with the rest of us. You will feel better for it.[:D] Boris, how is the marinara sauce coming along? The spatula is stuck in the cauldron? NINNY, you put the pasta in the sauce![:(!] The Columbus side of the menu may be a touch late folks. See ya later.

[nickinwestwales]

Well good afternoon one & all,Happy Thanksgiving / Columbus Day,as appropriate. Just stopped by to baste the bird,scrape a few veggies & generally set the wheels in motion for tonight,full menu later. [:-)]TOM-now imagine a trip on the C.P 1886 style-now THAT would be an adventure,please excuse rapid departure last night-minor `episode` brought on by weekends excess,can`t comment R.E baseball-no frame of reference -Columbus,Vikings,forget `em--we all know it was Prince Madoc of Gwynedd and his intrepid ( read "barking mad") warrior band who made the first crossing,teamed up with the first native group they met and promptly disappeared into the hinterland ( modern Gene-mapping techniques have made a good case for this-honest [^] AL-R.E-dome cars,Ontario Northland use them on the Polar Bear Express ( Cochrane-Moosonee,summer only ) have it in mind that cars from C.P &/or B.C.R in use but will check. MANAGER TED-consider all hairs split - as to the other matter,have just seen Chrissie in Paddy Wongs Bait,Tackle,Sandwich & Evening Wear Emporium and no doubts remain in my mind...back later,visitors arrived,nick

[Anonymous]

Ah! It is good to be back from the wilds of the world. Since it is morning could I have a strong coffee and Danish? Thank you. Sorry I do not have the time to read the post for the last three weeks. There were quite a load of them and judging from Tom's comments thanks to the shutdown by Kalmbach we got quite a few extra hits. I guess I missed out on all of this fun.

Last week I was in Calgary leaving on Saturday to fly home. Our good friends to the north were planning for the three day weekend when they celebrate Thanksgiving. They have turkey as we do south of the 49th. The office emptied out early on Friday. By the time we finished up at 2:30 you could fire a cannon through the building and not hit anybody. The flight back to Dallas, which left at the unholy hour of 6:40 AM was completely sold out as were most other flights out of Calgary. I guess their thanksgiving is their biggest travel weekend as ours is.

I think we are all aware of Canadian Pacific's plans to increase capacity of their line through the Rockies by adding double track, passing sidings, better signalling, etc. We saw this on the taxi ride from the airport. We crossed over the line going east out of Calgary and they had widened a cut and had rail laid out for the second main (or passing siding). They still needed the alignment crew to tamp and straighten it out, but that is coming. It is sad that the Canadian does not traverse the CP rail anymore even though the name came from the CP, not CN. The only way you can ride the CP is to take the Rocky Mountain Rail Tour train from Calgary or Edmonton to Vancouver. This is on our list of to dos in the near future.

My trip to Port Harcourt Nigeria was uneventual, if you consider riding in a car with a machine gun toting guard and staying in the walled compound with 20 armed guards at the front gate as uneventful. Food left a little to be desired. Lots of mystry meat which mostly was unchewable. They had some great looking salids, however, I would not eat them for fear of getting a severe case of the trots. Then you always get the shakedown upon leaving with the airport staff asking "Do you have anything for me?" It cost me about $10 in bribes to get out of that sewer. Fortunately I will never have to go back there as long as I live. Getting from there to Dallas entailed being in the hands of Lufthansa for 22 hours leaving at 10 PM Nigerian time and arriving at 2 PM dallas time with a 6 hour time change. Needless to say I am a little sore from sitting so long.

We were delayed in departing to Nigeria three days waiting for a small insurrection to calm down. Spending a three day vacation in London at company expense is not too bad, though. At my age I cannot outrun a speeding bullet any longer so I am passing on trips to such garden sport for the foreseeable future.

I had better start clearing off my desk, so I will sign off for now.

Cheers,
***

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

I see our Monday morning is off to a rousing start with a bunch of Posts to respond to. Nice having the place hoppin' in the AM ... but then again with both the Chief Chef [C=:-)] and Assistant Chef [C=:-)] working the kitchen for the [dinner] dinner being prepared, it's no wonder! [swg]

Rob Your early mornin' Post brings to mind that we should be getting to a point where the Rendezvous in Toronto activities should be kicked 'round - that is given you are still "into" that "consensus thing." [swg] Let's "do" some Email! As I've indicated previously, my airline reservations will be made before year's end ..... with or without the presence of Helga 'n Hilda [:O]

Ted That menu looks terrific - even cranked something in for good ole Chris Columbus, eh [?] All that fame for getting lost! [swg] Apparently you have accepted the offer of Assistant Chief Chef [C=:-)] without hesitation! Many thanx! I'm sure Nick appreciates having additional talent in the kitchen - along with another set of eyes to keep track of Boris - HIS Assistant. <good grief>

The Sunday Photo Posting Day! feature will remain as in spite of the "ignorance" previously encountered, the idea is for the majority to enjoy the "show," and that we did! Thanx for the kind words regarding the Can-Am. Some of those shots bring a smile to my face and there are times when I look at the layout thinking, "Did I see this or that before?" Only to quickly counter with, "Of course you idiot, you built it!" [swg]

Nick [dinner] Dinner at 5 PM is what we're calling for and by the looks of things, we may have to use one of the OKTOBERFEST tents for the spillover crowd. I understand YOUR FRIENDS from the Can-Am track gang are expected along with their rivals from CP 'n CN. That should be an interesting gathering. Definitely will have to put 'em in a tent ... last time they all got together in the back room ..... well, I'm still paying for the repairs! [swg]

I concur about the adventure part regarding an 1886 trip aboard CP's cross-Canada train. I'd much prefer the 1986 iteration! [swg] Amenities - domes - drinks - domes - comfortable bedrooms - domes - diners - domes! [yeah]

No sweat on the baseball - just that time of year for many of us. Sports - beer - trains - sports - beer - trains! I just know I've left SOMETHING out! Oh [yeah] [}:)][:-,]

Ah, Prince Madoc of Gwynedd, how COULD I have neglected to mention him and his merry band of marauders, maulers and manglers. <tsk, tsk> [swg]

By the by, Chrissy has applied for the "position" of "relief bartender." Now, that's a thought - but I surely wouldn't want this to somehow come in conflict with Manager, Assistant Chief Chef [C=:-)] 'n part-time Desperado Ted's juggling of his personal "affairs." Something to ponder ....

*** [#welcome] Welcome back! Of course, this blurb will probably go unread - as we've all become accustomed to these rather one-way Posts! <geesh> At least read the last couple of pages! [swg]

There's lots to enjoy and the SUMMARIES should be a good place to begin - especially with the Fallen Flags series and associated Posts.

Glad you're back and hope the next time you visit, you'll be ready to engage in the inclusive dialogue 'round here. [tup]

I'll be here for the day - so stick around guys and whatillyahave [?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Hi everyone, great, Nick is tending "Mothra" our 43 lb. Turkey. Now, I know the culinary points of the day will be covered, "first class." Another Ballantine's " Indian," please Captian Tom. Never rode the C. & N.W. R.R. but have long admired their steam loco roster. Oh, its best that Chrissy retains her full-time job at Paddy Wongs. She gets an employee discount on all bait, tackle, lunch and evening wear which saves me "mucho dinero."[:-^] The noblesse oblige stops here.[:)]

Hi ***, and welcome back from your Casablanca style connection. I nearly started a lottery on whether we would see you again.[}:)] Let's give *** some breathing space, at least, until he unpacks his luggage. I hope the baggage handlers didn't "confiscate" your camera and film. By Gadfrey, that is an evil part of the world, isn't it?[xx(] By all means come back when you're settled. "Our" Place may not measure up to London but you can't beat our prices either.[tup] Good to hear C.P. is expanding their mountain division.[tup] I look for increased passenger service across the board while fuel is in such demand. S.U.V.'s are becoming domiciles of necessity for some of the "compulsive consumer" crowd.[8] "...but we didn't know...?" Didn't know?

What is the controversy over who discovered the Americas? Archeologists know full well the Chinese landed on our West Coast centuries before the Europeans. If that isn't enough, Siberians crossed the "land bridge" (Asia-America) eons before that.[banghead] I dare say, if they knew what was to become of it all, they wouldn't have bothered.[2c]

Nick[C=:-)], as assistant Chief Chef, I will consider my duties as little more than surveillance while both you and Cindy do stock inventory.[bow] Hmmm, 12 inventories in 6 days seems excessive. Well, that happens when you really love your work.[(-D] There is something to be said for "those living in houses of glass..."[#oops]

Okay, I have hit everything [#offtopic] so far. Boris, you did say your birthday was Oct. 31st, right? I'd best check with Tom and Nick on this. They must have your pedigree papers some place, perhaps in the tub? Must attend to the Maple Leaf paraphernalia, i.e. party favo(u)rs: exploding Turkeys, 3 cornered hats, shoe buckles and, of course, cornucopias (used as barf bags later this evening).[:O] Right, do the parting bell thing Boris. PHWAAP GADFREY DANIEL!!!, he missed and hit the Pinata.[:(!] Go get the Hoover, Cretin. I'll be in the "Rats Patoot" room. See ya soon.

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon Tom. Guess I'll have a double CR aand a round for the house .Yes I am celebrating early just passed my mid-term tax class exam with an excellent grade . Can't get any better score than perfect.
Now to the subject you suggested.
Remember one of my early leaves home from the Navy I of course took the train when I know everyone else was riding the bus as it was cheaper and faster.. In fact Continental Trailways was running the Golden Eagle service on the west coast between Los Angeles and Seattle. This service provided all food at one's seat except for breakfast that was served in a restaurant but included in the fare. The trip was far faster than the train that required changing three times between LA and Seattle. Going North from LA I rode the OWL up the San Joaquin Valley overnight and connected in Martinez with the SHASTA DAYLIGHT for the long trip to Portland where the GN overnight train to Seattle was waiting.. Every three months the GN-NP-UP alternated the overnight service between Seattle and Portland at the time. Each ran a day train between the two Northwest Cities. I did learn that a sailor could sleep anywhere as the Shasta Daylight car I was assigned to had a bunch of school kids aboard for a good part of the trip and I slept like a baby. all afternoon. We arrived in Seattle early the second Morning after the slow overnight trip from Portland.
For the return I rode the NP streamliner to Partland and made connections with the CASCADE then changed the next AM to the SAN JOAQUIN DAYLIGHT for the trip back to LA. That was really my first all coach experience riding passenger trains and found out it wasn't to difficult to sleep in a coach seat. On Navy pay the meals did seem a little expensive but losing a few pounds probably didn't hurt me. Home cooking put them on while I was home on leave so better to get back in shape before returning to duty. Although much slower than the Bus it was much more enjoyable traveling by rail.

[siberianmo]

Boris 'n Leon your jobs are to stand by the front doors, one to the left the other to the right .... make sure that the guys get directed to the tables. Okay, Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary your trusted friend and companion, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator you will take on the job of Host and Marte De for this evenin's Canadian Thanksgiving Day and Columbus Day dinners.

The OKTOBERFEST Pavillion Tent is for the exclusive use of the track gangs, expected to arrive at 5:30 PM. Under no circumstances do they sit in the back room! [:O]

Okay - that being said, the rest is up to Nick 'n Ted [C=:-)] for this grand [dinner]dinner extravaganza! [swg]

Ted That, my friend was one of your better Posts - lots of humor and well done! [tup] As one who has a minor in Anthropology (1992), I should inform you that the Chinese landings on our west coast is largely anecdotal, although there have been some findings in the "record" warranting much more study before a conclusion can be made. Insofar as the Bering Land Bridge crossings are concerned - plenty of evidence there, as the bi-pedal community of humans crossed from what we now call Asia into North America. The "discovery" aspect is only a western term - Euro in fact - to somehow place legitimacy for the conquest of the "new world." We "discovered" it, therefore it's ours ..... Right now, the Vikings have the far better claim in history and the archeaological record to "stake" the claim. Boris RIng the bell - [#offtopic] Drinks on me! [tup]

Al Not sure I follow your thinking - but the story is fine, as always. Don't recall "suggesting" this ....... Oh, yes - congratulations on your progress at school.

Catch y'all later - and <geesh> I hope some comments will be forthcoming regarding the "stuff" I've posted today. Anyone reading out there [?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving And Columbus Day to all.
I think Our Place ought to have a MADOC day if only to sample[C=:-)]NICKS Welsh cusine.[tup].

While the turkey is being cooked may I have a pint of Bathams and a round for the great photos of yesterday.

Thanks ROB for the info on the snow plowing and the photos. The of the works fleet trams are very interesting as sometimes these vehicles were sometimes overlooked and rarely photoed at home. My mate is looking in to the Immingham cars.

TROY Excellent Models and thanks for the K&ESR workshop view[^][tup].

RUSSELL Can you tell me when the E2 was photoed is it still in St LOUIS[?].

NICK Sorry to hear about your rotten Saturday night gig.Great pictures and a good model layout. The Midland Rly Baldwin Mogul looks as though it would struggle with the East Midlands coal trains but with Derby building its own locos I doubt if the Moguls were given a fair chance. I wonder if they were ever tried on local passenger trains.

Thanks TOM and PASSENGERFAN for more Domecar info. Our loading gauge in the U.K. was too small to have them so they are new to me.

TOM Another great Fallen Flag and C.P. info and Many THANKS for doing NICKs photos for us to enjoy.[tup]. By the way I noticed that the CAN-AM Gorge is quite near to Our Place has Boris ever fallen in to it .

I hope I have not left anybody out and welcome back ***[tup].

Well its gone 5 and TEDs and NICKs turkey smells wonderful.TED you say BORIS's birthday is OCT31[wow] that sould be some party[;)] PETE.

[siberianmo]

G'day Guys!

<chomp> <chomp> <munch> <munch> <brrrrrrrrrap!> Ahhhh, the sounds of [dinner] dinner eminating from the back room here at "Our" Place on this Thanksgiving Day in Canada! & Columbus Day in the U.S.

Pete Nice to see ya and hope you had a good weekend. As always, your observant nature is good for the morale, but also in keeping with the inclusiveness sought 'round here. Very much appreciated - thanx! [tup][tup]

Ah, yes Madoc the Welsh Prince who purportedly "discovered" America before Columbus. Well, one thing he didn't do was beat the Viikings to Vineland! [swg]

Check out this URL if anyone is interested in Madoc http://www.madoc1170.com/home.htm

Can-Am Gorge is where I take the boyz on Sundays to romp and ravage amongst the cliffs and forests - terrifying beasts as they frolic in nature's serenity! <huh> Neither Boris or Leon has fallen into the gorge, however, they have both dived headlong into the frigid waters - clothing and boots included. It's always the same thing, but they love it ....... <huh> [alien][:O]

By the by, the E2 IS still at the St. Louis Museum of Transport ... check out this URL:
http://www.museumoftransport.org/rails-4.htm

This is a place we need to visit!

Thanx for the Post and enjoy your [dinner] dinner! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

LET IT BE KNOWN-FROM HERE ON, BEER WILL ONLY BE SERVED TO THOSE WITH A PLATE OF FOOD-because,after considerable research and in deference to our patrons from above the 49th,a classic Canadian feast awaits-to whit-as it its a cold and wet night at this end of the bar,we have some soups-Spring Sorrel,Cream of Fiddlehead & Cape Breton Clam Chowder to take off the chill & line the stomach,if you don`t fancy a full meal,how about a plate of appetisers-Baby Greens with Oysters & Wasabi dressing,Wild Leek & Asparagus au gratin,Salt Cod fishcakes on mixed mixed greens with lemon vinaigrette,Perogies with crispy salad,Pelmani in broth...Main dishes-these are just visible behind ,what for want of a better word can only be described as a mountain of Turkey,complete with rolling foothills of bacon-wrapped chipolatas,glazed & roasted shallots, ALL the Christmas trimmings,including Chestnut,Sausagemeat,Sage & Onion & Port & Cranberry stuffing-representing the Pacific Coast ,we have an 18lb Salmon-gently steamed over a bouillon of white wine & herbs,from Manitoba we have Wood-fired Bison with baby onions,fennel,juniper & saskatoonberries,from the Cree natives in Moosonee (N.Term. of Ontario Northland)-Happy Day Chicken with wild garlic and cranberries,whilst for Vegetarians,we are delighted to offer a Ukranian dish-Bukovinian Natchynka & Smorzhee in sour cream-apparently similar to polenta,but dressed up to go out dancing--Well judgeing from the fine work done so far,I feel sure MANAGER TED & I can turn this into the place to be for discerning diners-at last-another English speaker in the galley-Boris-go to shed,take pill,go sleep .........................thats better,he hasnt been right since hearing that there are females like him.ROB- for pitys sake keep them away-the consequences are too awful to contemplate,there`s barely enough room for him in the shed as it is......................O.K-for those of you bored enough to stay with me this far,to the post-*** WATKINS-welcome home !!!-glad you had a safe trip,spend a while catching up and look forward to swapping notes[tup][^][tup]...........................MANAGER TED-I confess myself outclassed-a point to you [swg][tup]...........AL-congratulations on a result-good to hear,nice one mate [tup][tup]...PETE-R.E-Boris & the gorge-thats actually where we found him,a long ( & faintly unpleasant) tale,as to Baldwins,use was only fugitive memory,as you suggest,look more suited to mixed traffic work,quite large `drivers` for freight engine,by the by-thanks for kind words R.E. pix-comparison with other offerings has put this winters work schedule up several notches,nothing like digital quality images to expose the weak spots..............Right,whose ready for another wee drinkie,[4:-)]TOM-will you shake hands with Mr Alexander again--AL --I see you by there as well-a crown royal for you <make that a large one please darlin`>,and one for yourself of course....................PETE-a pint of the Bathams,naturally-what do you fancy for a `chaser`--got a fine bottle of Jamaican Rum to hand at the moment,dont usually bother with spirits but fell to hand as a gift--very,very smooth-oh lordy- suggest we might put a very large gin in a martini glass into the freezer for MANAGER TED when he returns,at my expense................SALUT ! -right,its back to the galley with me,meals will be available fairly soon,the lovely Cindy will keep you entertained until [4:-)]TOM is back behind the tiller,enjoy your holiday one and all,its a work day for me so moonlight mile-sleep well,nick[C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

TOM -just hit "Madoc" site-thrown into ring without previous study-pleasantly suprised to find stuff out there,will study before shooting off mouth again,regards,nick

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Nick[C=:-)]

Things are winding down, the [dinner] dinner menu is exhausting! [tup][tup][tup] You and Ted have done yourselves proud this holiday! Many thanx ...... [swg]

Ted A special thanx to you also for the extra effort put forth today. Whille the numbers of us who showed up today may not be reflective of an "average" day, those who did pass through the doors enjoyed one of our best feasts!

I share your hope that one day all of our regulars will fully participate - but not your optimism that they will.

Tomorrow is 'nother day, and for those of you who care - watch for the Fallen Flags and other special Postings. They are worth my effort if only one of you appreciates 'em. [tup]

I've had a bit of a long day 'round here and will be packin' it in before too long. Hope those of you who have enjoyed our Posts have a good nite - and join us back here tomorrow!

Oh [yeah] thanx to all who have bought the house a round .... always appreciated, and Lord knows we can use the funds! [swg]

Leon the Night Man has the bar! Boris ring the bell - a round for the house before I depart ...... [swg][zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Trainnut484]

Evening Tom and all. I'll have a ML and some of that Clam Chowder. Welcome back ***. Pete, I took the E2 photo about two years ago at the transportation museum. The link that Tom provided will probably mention more about it. Rob, great pix yesterday of the trolleys, glad you like the Branson Scenic Railway URL. It's a good thing Boris [alien] hit the pinata instead of your noggin, Ted. Maybe a rubber mallet would do instead of his usual ringer? BTW thanks for the "high praise". Tom, great stuff about the ol' granger road CNW. I don't know much about them, but I miss their paint schemes on the locomotives.

Turning in for the night, G'night all [zzz]

Russell

[Anonymous]

It is heartening to see our total membership back "on line" and contributing generously with fine Posts.[^] Passengerfan Al, I echo your sentiments on day coach rail travel over bus. My X-mas leaves by rail were longer and more expensive than by bus. However, when I actually rode a Trailways from Baltimore to Tulsa, the train fare seemed a bargain. Tom, 'nuther Indian Pale please. Yeah, the Chinese migration is based on incomplete archeological evidence, however, it has not been pursued anything like the European claims of the past. I expect to see the "link" to China deepen and become broader as studies advance.

Wow, everyone seems pleased with the quality and quantity of the banquet.[tup] The Canadian Brass "stole the show" which gives pause for thought. So many people have never been exposed to light classical music that when they hear it for the first time; they come to realize there are "better things in life" afterall.[^]

The week is off to a great start. Let us not forget the 6 month celebration of "Our" Place on Wednesday. Everyone please "click on" your memory files and share some (any) personal experiences related to the many facets of railroading. Don't be reclusive because you imagine no one will appreciate your tale. Believe me, some of the most trivial events can be compelling to other members when that "spark" hits the tender. Okay Leon and Boris, you have both done a magnificent job controlling the "Crew" tent. Not to worry Leon, our insurance will cover the loss of those teeth. The whole tent full ran to the Paddy Wagon to escape your wrath. Good night and until tomorrow, I bid you a safe journey home.

[siberianmo]

This place is just like the Hotel California

QUOTE: You can checkout any time you like, but you can never leave!

[swg]

The "challenge" has been made - Ted wants all of us to fully particpate in our 6th Month Anniversary of "Our" Place this Wednesday by Posting an original PERSONAL story regarding YOUR experience(s) aboard a train (passenger or freight). Post it any time of the day you like - but be sure to do it! [tup]

Six of our "regulars" have been absent over the past few days. Now that's not full participation. However, for those who have joined in this weekend and today - many thanx to all of you! [tup] Especially our "Inner Circle." [swg]

It appears that our OKTOBERFEST Pavillion Tent made it through the festivities tonight without major damage. Thanx to the Local Constabulary the track gangs have been returned to their respective barracks buildings. [swg]

Russell As always, appreciate your stopping by ....... [tup]

Ted Consider this - as the Chinese become more of an influence in the world, wouldn't it be rather "natural" for the revisionist historians to foster a different view [?] I just noted that their tape measure has found Mt. Everest to be a bit shorter than the Euro's thought it was all these years! One thing is certain in all of this - none of us will ever REALLY know the truth of any of it.

G'nie (again!) [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

6th Month Anniversary this Wednesday!

[trolleyboy]

Good evening again everyone. Nick & Ted Wow what a spread, and delicasies from across the great dominion to boot [tup] Nick I will try to keep Boris away from his "kinfolk" but you know how nature is[:O] Though I'm certainly not the expert, but I don't recall the ONR having any domes on the Polar bear. The algoma central definatly, but their cars are ex Western Pacific. Ted I haven't made it to yours or Toms mail yet but I will shortly expect answers on the morrow. Tom Good stuff on the CP posters. Old photo's of the car interiors from 1886 look posh posh. Mr Van Horn certainly wanted to cater to the more gentle set. The poster from the 50's demonstrates CP's passion and support for Canada and it's natural history. Something they still do today. On a couple of occastions I've seen CP bring around elements of their historic collections ( posters paintings etc ) for the general public to enjoy. Also I've always liked the C&NW kinda the underdog of the rail world.TRheya lways were looking for bargin locomotives to wring a few more miles out of. Witness the Minnesota ore fields, HH C628's and FM's pulling out thier lights. Pete Thanks for the photo support. I've always been drawn to work equipment. Mainline railway and traction. Quite a bit of it has been saved by various museums both stateside and here. Among our saved work equipment. Oshawa railway 45 { line car built by the NS&T } TTC rail grinders W28 st car subway grinder RT7 ( w28's sister ) W30&31 a MU set of PCC's ( ex cleveland ) used to railgrind after W28's retirement. TTC snowsweeper S-37 and TTC snowplow TP-11 calso call our museum home. TRC ( toronto railway co ) W4 work flat motor.( 1904 car also home built ) TTC crane car C-1( 1912 home built job ) TTC subway flatcars ( work motors } RT27 and RT 28 now move ballast and ties for us. Grand river railway rail binder M4 and Line truck M6 also share barn space at the museum. We also have an ex TH&B tie changer, and a ballast regulator( diesel powered but functional ) and several other wheeled line trucks at our disposal ( most of which we still use for overheadrepair and maintenance ) Russell & tom thanks for the added info on the Milw. electric locomotive. My one question is she stripped or is she still mostly intact? If she's intact is it operational ? *** [#welcome] home. Your journey seems as though it was tiring and harrowing at times. I for one am glad that you wern't asked to outrun any bullets. Thanks for the CP info as well. Maybe the double tracking of CP tthrough the foothills and mountains will entice the Canadain back to where it needs to run. When you were in calgary were you able to ride the Light rail there? Al Great news on your exams! Soooo are you doing our places taxes next year and of coasre it's memberships? [swg][swg] I'm looking forward to Wed Ted. it's my day off so hopefully I may be online with some of you. BTW I'm still letting my ACL purple and silver scheme stand as my pick for your most obnoxious paint scheme contest. A close second would be that hideous lime green / yellow Citrus scheme from SAL. Most obnoxious I think on the Baldwin cenetepeid locomotives ( as if tthey didn't stand out enough on thier own [alien] )Well gents I'm just about out of steam ( I've picked up my neice and nephews colds [xx(] ) Classic juice list as posted thus far. #1 The London and Port Stanley L&PS to be found on page 116. #2 The Niagara St Catharines and Toronto Railway NS&T. can be found on page 123. #3 The Montreal and Southern Counties Railway or MS&C can be found on page 131. Some more will be comming in the next few weeks as well as they seem to have been a hit thus far. [tup][:)] Well folks I'll leave money for everyones first round tomorrow Tom. Nite all Rob [zzz]

[Gunns]

Evening All,
I'm back, I despratly need some coffee, I've never drunk so much beer in my life.....
Crewing with this years Germans was Schwer Schone, we usally ended up in a cowboy bar...
How ever I did get a chance to show them some of the Harvey house hotels in the area, those that are left are really somthing. Which brings me to the point, classic trains had some great destinations, El Tovar at the Grand Canyon was one, and perhaps my Favorite. Any others?
Oh and a pastrey,
Gunns

[siberianmo]

TUESDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Good Morning Guys!

Same-oh, same-oh ‘round here this AM …. Check out The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case; our freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee and our <light> breakfasts on the Menu Board! [tup] Good way to begin the day …….

Info for the Day:

Tomorrow, Oct 12th is The 6th month Anniversary of the creation of ”Our” Place. All of our customers are requested to Post a PERSONAL story regarding a rail experience (passenger or freight).

INDEX

Index pages for Fallen Flags, etc.

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

106 – SP
106 – MoPac
108 – WP
109 – Frisco
112 – CNR (passenger ops)
112 – CNR Super Continental Time Table
112 – Heralds of the Fallen Flags
113 - Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 “Start ups” 1800’s & early 1900’s
114 – ACL
115 – SCL
116 - D&RGW
117 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
118 – RI
119 – D&H
120 - PRR
121 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 CP Hotels & Lodges
122 – NYC
124 – A Tale of Classic Trains – BC Rail RDC trip
124 – UP (passenger ops)
125 – AT&SF
127 – B&O
127 – B&O Strata-Dome ad
127 – B&O Encor! ad
128 – CM&StP
129 – CB&Q
129 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 – Soo Line
130 – Great Britain Nostalgia #1 East Coast Route
133 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #5 CP 1886
133 – Passenger Train Nostalgia #6 CP 1950s
133 – C&NW

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 00:45:12 (132)

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 00:58:07 (133) Monday’s Info & Summary

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 01:04:42 (133) CP 1886

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 01:09:18 (133) CP 1950s

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 07:12:23 (133) Fallen Flag C&NW

(6) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 08:42:19 (133)

(7) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 09:11:59 (133)

(8) wrwatkins *** Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 09:12:18 (133) He’s baaaaaack!

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 10:12:07 (133) reply to trolleyboy – Theodorebear – nickinwestwales – wrwatkins

(10) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 13:59:27 (133) A classic!

(11) passengerfan Al Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 14:55:21 (133)

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 17:02:59 (133) reply to Theodorebear & passengerfan, etc.

(13) pwolfe Pete Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 17:17:10 (133) inclusive post!

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 18:56:55 (133) reply to pwolfe

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 20:19:25 (133) Another classic!

(16) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 21:11:10 (133)

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 21:18:38 (133) rely to nickinwestwales, etc.

(18) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 21:25:06 (133)

(19) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 21:32:50 (133)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 10 Oct 2005, 22:35:23 (133) reply to Trainnut484 & Theodorebear

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!


6 Month Anniversary Tomorrow!

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Spokane, Portland & Seattle (SP&S)

Headquarters: Portland, OR

Mileage in 1950: 968

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 93

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 3,547
Passenger cars: 48

Principal routes in 1950:

Portland-Spokane, WA
Portland-Seaside, WA
Portland-Eugene, OR (subsidiary Oregon Electric Railway)
Wishram, WA-Bend, OR subsidiary Oregon Trunk Railway)

Passenger trains of note:

Columbia River Express [Portland-Spokane)
Empire Builder (Portland-Chicago)
Oriental Limited (Portland-Chicago)
Western Star (Portland-Chicago)
North Coast Limited (Portland-Chicago)
Mainstreeter (Portland-Chicago)

Of note: SP&S handled GN’s Empire Builder, Oriental Limited and Western Star between Portland and Spokane; SP&S handled NP’s North Coast Limited and Mainstreeter between Portland and Pasco, WA


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

6 Month Anniversary Tomorrow!

[Anonymous]

Just had a power outage and blew off my nearly finished post.[:(!] Where was I?[:(] Oh yes, Tom, I'll have a splash of Joe unleaded and a Bear Claw leaded, please. Yes, the "Revisionists" are having quite a good time rewriting history from their coffee houses and like centers of academia. I call them literary iconoclastic Anarchists, or if you prefer, anarchistic Iconoclasts. Dan Brown comes to mind immedaitely (DiVinci Code). Must be nice having a captive audience via the N. Y. Times, Barnes & Noble and Doubleday et al., don't you think?[xx(]

Hey, "a good time was had by all" yesterday.[tup] ***, thanks for keeping in touch from "Jolly Ole England." That took time and trouble and we all appreciate it.[tup] Gunns, the reports of your demise were greatly exaggerated.[(-D] Good to have you back buddy. "Cowboy bar," when the best B.B.Q. joint in 4 states is on your back porch? Favorite destination? First home, then anywhere in the Rocky Mtns., Colorado Springs will do nicely. Passengerfan Al, you cant beat a "perfect score," congratulations. Keep you red pencil handy for us, okay? Nick, you and Tom are the "research and development duo" par excellence.[^] Gotta love those Brit rails shots. Rob, you have mail and possibly "snail" following when I hear from you on my "reply" on this day[tup] EVERYBODY, "Let's get together and feel alright." Come Wednesday, we will have "Our" Place 6 month observance. Any and all comments on past persoanl R.R. experiences is what we want to share. Doesn't matter if they are fuzzy and warm, cold and bold, ironic and sardonic or sappy and happy. BUT, please do join in. You'll feel much better for it.

That *#$^ outage really threw me off balance.[tdn] I'll need to drop in later after I recollect my thoughts. Be well and Tom, "keep them cards and letters comin' in," they are appreciated beyond your imagining.[bow] Boris, forget about your birth date, are you sure you were born atall?[alien] See yas soon.

[coalminer3]

Good Morning:

Coffee please, here's some quarters for the jukebox, and a round for the house. I'll check out all of the summaries, etc. as soon as I can so I can get back up to speed on what's been going on. I will definitely post a story for the Great Six Months Extravaganza; probably more branch line B&M stuff with a definite Alco twist. I assume that the hazmat teams and local authorities have already been alerted for tomorrow's festivities.

work safe

[siberianmo]

G’mornin’ Guys!

A rather uninspiring Tuesday mornin’ in these parts, a bit on the gloomy side – but nothing terribly awful in the forecast. Sun has given way to layers of grey clouds with a few sprinkles here ‘n there. The temps are still very comfortable – 60’s, so the plus side is that Fall is in the air! [tup]

To the responses:

Rob First – your Email was received and responded to! Thanx …..

I wi***hat there was a way for me to replicate the pictures that are on those CPR posters – really great. Unfortuntely, that would occupy much too much time and I’m not sure that copies from copies, along with the proper colo(u)rs would do ‘em justice. Glad you liked ‘em and they were supposed to set the theme for the day.

I really know of no other passenger railroad in North America that could rival Canadian Pacific Railways when it came to sheer commitment in moving people. What a company and what a great era it was! Nothing wrong with being proud of what you are, where you are and who you are. Love it! [tup]

The pictures from the St. Louis Museum of Transport show the loco’s as they are on display. So that E2 you referred to should be in prime condition for viewing. C’mon down! [swg] I’m rather serious about that – you and Heather would have a place to stay and there ARE plenty of things to do ‘round these parts. Speaking of traveling – I neglected to mention in my Email about November – we’ve opted out due to the horrendous increases in air fares.

Thanx very much for the info on your Classic Juice series … watch the SUMARIES! [tup]

Gunns – Kevin At about 4 AM this morning, we awoke to the sound of what turned out to be a hot air balloon setting down out back in the picnic area. Who would emerge but YOU, heading directly for the back door. In you went (apparently you found a way!) and Boris came flying out of his shed to intercept the “intruder.” Fortunately for YOU that he recognized you. Hope the coffee was fresh enough and the just delivered bakery goods filled your hunger. [swg]

So, now that you are back – perhaps you’ll take the time to check out what has transpired since your last visit. It’s the only way to go – can’t have much of a dialogue when the conversations remain “one way.”

[#welcome] Back and hope you resume the dialogue real soon …….

Ted Sounds like your day began with a “bang” of sorts – not quite the way a sailor would like it, but I guess okay for an Army guy! [}:)][:-,]

Concur with your assessment of the “Revisionists” couldn’t have said it better myself! [tup]

You appear to have had a resurgence of sorts judging by the content and context of your Posts – not that they all haven’t been “on the mark,” but as of late, they’ve been especially inclusive and thought provoking. Thanx! Very much appreciated and it takes a bit of the response time from me – which I REALLY like. Why say “it” twice [?] [swg]

coalminer3 CM3 Am I ever glad to “see” you again! Sure have missed your presence ‘round here. Furthermore, I wi***hat everyone would follow your lead upon returning from an absence before Posting “in the blind.” Way to go – check out what’s been said – then get on with it. Very, very much what we’ve tried to instill in the guys from the “get go.” [tup][tup][tup]

You’ll find that MUCH has transpired. The Fallen Flags series and associated Nostalgia Posts should “flick your switch.”

Actually, tomorrow will be rather subdued ‘round here – we’re still getting over yesterday’s sumptuous feast for the dual holidays in Canada and the U.S. …… Tomorrow is really a simple affair with our customers providing their PERSONAL accounts of rail experiences (passenger or freight) for all to enjoy. It will otherwise be business as usual, but of course, should the place get a bit crowded and jumpin’, well we’ll party hardy! [swg]

Looking forward to your Post …… [#welcome] Back! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

6th Month Anniversary Tomorrow!

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #7

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this out (unknown origin – found at flea market; circa 1920’s)

HOTELS AND BOARDING HOUSES in the BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .along the
Washington and Old Dominion Railway

Name ……….……………….. Terms and other information

Bluemont, Va. ……….…… Located on mountain overlooking the Loudoun Valley;
… J.M. Moreland .………… modern conviences; excellent board. Rates on application.

… H. Rathbone Smith ……. Accomodations for several guests on large estate located
……………………………….. on mountain; meals at owner’s residence close to main
……………………………….. house; reasonable rates; references required.

… A. L. Longerbeam ……….. Best country board; terms moderate.

… Mrs. Millard Patterson …… Excellent board; chicken, milk, fresh eggs; home garden.
……………………………….. Terms $2.00 per day’ $10.00 and $12.00 per week.

… “The Heights” ……………. Modern conveniences; splendid home cooking.
… Mrs. T. P. Simpson ………. Terms moderate.
… Proprietress

… “The Loudoun” …………… Large lawn; tennis. Comfortable rooms, porches, etc.
… J. C. Beatty, Proprietor …… Terms: Single rooms, $15.00 per week; double rooms,
............................................. $12.00 per person per week.

Round Hill, Va.
… “Baldwin House” …………. Terms on application.

… F. P. Lowe ………………… Near town. Terms on application.

… E. L. Donohoe ……………. Terms on application.

… Fannie Wynkoop …………. Terms on application.

… Maud Wynkoop ………….. Terms on application.

… T. W. Best .……………….. Near town. Terms on application.

… Mollie Copeland .………… Terms on application.

… Edw. Finnell .…………….. Terms on application.

Purcellville, Va.
… “The Bell Inn ……………. Modern conveniences; plenty shade;
… Mrs. M. H. Beal …………. Lawn; garden vegetables. Terms $3.00
… Proprietress ...……………. per day; $30.00 per month.

… “The White Cottage” ……. Near town. Excellent table.
… Miss Rebecca Lloyd …….. Terms on application.
… Proprietress

… Mrs. E. Shoemaker ……… Near town. Large shady lawn; fresh
… R. F. D. No. 2 …………… vegetables. Terms on application.

… Mrs. Alice Corder ………. Near station. Modern conveniences.
.……………………………… Terms on applicaton.

Hamilton, Va. ...………….. Large shady lawn; fresh vegetables;
… Mrs. J. W. Chamberlin ….. milk; cream; eggs. Modern conveniences;
. ……………………………… excellent table. Terms $10.00 to $12.00 per week.

Leesburg, Va. ..………….. Located in business section. A delightful place
… “Leesburg Inn” …………. Spend day and week-end vacations. Special Sunday
……………………………… chicken dinneres.

… Mrs. Fulton …………….. Near town. Modern country home. Delightful meals;
.…………………………….. terms on application.

Electric Trains leave from Rossyln Terminal Station (Washington), located South End Key Bridge, on Frequent Schedules


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

6th Month Anniversary Tomorow!

[West Coast S]

Morning Tom and the gang....I have returned...Substantial progress has been accomplished on the honey do list over the past three days ....Sizeable portion of my paycheck for materials to rebuild 200 feet of wooden fence...yikes! I have no doubt a massive amount of painting/repainting awaits me.....Cuppa Joe, full strength if you please...

Tom... Great Sunday photo feature, I just might get off my duff and complete getting my 35mm onto disc to post.
Spank the Yanks!...Now on, to beat up the White Sox... Go Angels!
[yeah][yeah][yeah][yeah]

Great choice with the fallen flags, interesting note to one your chosen, SP&S late in life established run through agreements with the SP, bringing Grey and Scarlet to the Pacific Northwest and SP&S Yellow & Black to California....

PassengerFan..
As always your insight into passenger operations are unmatched. Great to have a knowledgeable source to address those nuances that others may have missed.

Troy...
As a prolific scratchbuilder is S scale, fantastic is all I can say..G scale must be great to work in.....

Ted...
Your humor is to commended, I see you and Boris have bonded...do I dare forsee Boris developing human emotions?

Rob....
King of traction....great insight...i'll have my own story to relate in a bit.

Nick...Par excellence, what else would one expect? Any chance we can get a walnut and wild mushroom stuffing for that turkey?

***, Gunns, CM3...
Welcome Back.. "Our Place" seems a bit smaller without your presence...

There was a recent article in the LA Times that illustrates to value of hind sight being 20/20.

The topic was the future of light rail in LA. Two opossing sides proffered their opinions and points who, for the purpose of this writing I shall refer to as group A and group B.

Group A..
Proposes restoration of service on the Wilshire Corridor to Santa Monica. The Mircle Mile is undergoing a revival and a light rail option would enhance the pedestrian friendly enviorment developers are seeking. On the negative side.. property for the right of way would be difficuilt and expensive to obtain and operate and would do nothing to address the issue that it would remain a isolated segment until a route decision could be agreed upon to connect with other segments of Metro Rail...

Group B
Proposes a route via Exposition Blvd utilization existing long abandoned PE trackage to Century City which still exist, virtually intact. Additionaly, the goal is that such a route would bring this area of LA into the modern age and spur redevolpement..Ridership would be tenious during the first six months studies predict. USC and Expostion Park could be potential traffic sources..
This route would be able to connect with other segements of existing Metro Rail at Union Station...On the Negative Side...The Expostion Blvd. suffers from high crime, drug activity and a large homeless population.. Would commuters choose to abandon their automobiles only to be acosted or worse?

While the poltical debate rages, one who is familar with the LA transportation scene, can't help note the irony involved.

There was a previous Whilshire Corridor rail line...Known as the Santa Monica Air Line of the Pacifc Electric... To this very day the former right of way cuts a swath between little and big Santa Monica Blvd...Why do we not just reuse it most might say...
In the wisdom of politics, the various cities obtained indviduel ownership of the land, LA proposed keeping it intact and available for future rails use..The dollar signs from special interest and developers blinded city officials who reversed their initial decision and have permited development of the former right of way as they see fit... Now we will have to bear the cost to replace what we had..

No one is rushing to bulldoze the Exposition Blvd. route.. In time, i'm sure we will have to bear the cost of aquiring a new right of way due to having relinquished an existing right of way for other uses.

I find it ironic that 80% of Metro Rail is constructed on former PE right of way..Makes one wonder what City Hall and Sacramento were thinking when the conspired to kill the PE. Everything old is new again...Just throw a couple of billions here and there to restore what we once had.


Ok Boris do your thing..lunch on me for the next four hours

Dave [:D]

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Good Afternoon Tom and the gang. Time for a CR and a round for the house.
Just wanted to add alittle to this AM thread on the SP&S. In later years the SP&S simply called the main train between Spokane and Portland the STREAMLINER. It carried cars from and to the EMPIRE BUILDER in Spokane and from and to the NORTH COAST LIMITED in Pasco. Eastbound the NORTH COAST LIMITED departed Seatrtle at 1:30 PM and the EMPIRE BIILDEr departed Seattle at 3:30 PM with both trains in Spokane near the midnight hour. Not only did the SP&S STREAMLINER carry cars for these two train but carried its own cars between Portland and Spokane. The SP&S operated a dining car ,coaches baggage/mail and Sleeper lounge eastbound operated as a parlor and westbound operated as a sleeper lounge. Their has lways been some question as to why the BN chose the NP route between Pasco and Spokane over the SP&S route. The SP&S route enjoyed better grades and it was possible to make better time on the SP*S route. Neither route served any really important cites or towns between Pasco and Spokane. Today the old SP&S route between Pasco and Spokane is a hiking trail.