"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[siberianmo]

Howdy passengerfan Al Nice to see ya on a Saturday! Have you gotten the days (daze) of the week mixed up [?] [swg]

So, how do you REALLY feel about Domes [?] Just love readin' what you have to say 'bout 'em and it never gets boring. As I read your documtation, I wonder just how many people traveled in those cars - of course, we'll never really know. The destinations were many and varied, the consists too. Today in the contiguous 48 of America, the domes of old are pretty much relegated to tourist trains and the like. I'm not familiar with any at all in actual scheduled passenger train operation, are you [?]

The most compelling reason for us to travel in Canada is to ride those Budd domes of VIA Rail. Now that they are all but gone from the "Ocean," the run to Halifax from Montreal becomes just one more that will fade into memory for us. Oh yeah, they will continue with a "token" Park car during tourist season - hooked to the end of the "Renaissance" equpment. Barf - actually, double Barf! [tdn] I will go down in flames with my insistence that VIA Rail really messed up with that purchase (Euro cars from Britain) and the line to the Maritimes will suffer. Perhaps not for the tourists, but there are so many along the route who actually depend on the train - so many who book the berths - so many who travel on meager budgets. VIA Rail now has decided to "upscale" the "Ocean," sorta like an eastern version of the "Canadian." Barf - in fact, double Barf! [tdn]

I've heard varying accounts of the type of equipment used between Winnipeg and Churchill - some times with a dome, some times not. In the not too distant past I even saw a string of "smoothsides" in the VIA Rail blue and yellow livery, stting in Winnipeg for the evening departure for Hudson Bay. They looked grand, but of course my preference is and always will be the Budd stainless steel "beauties."

Thanx for the Post and of course the round .... Boris ring it, Al has sprung for the drinks! [tup]

Catch ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

GREAT BRITAIN PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #3 from multiple sources

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains, this time from Great Britain! Check this pre-WWI poster out!

LONDON & NORTH WESTERN & CALEDONIAN RAILWAYS

TRAVEL BY WEST COAST ROUTE BETWEEN ENGLAND & SCOTLAND

Comfort – Punctuality – Speed

QUICKEST & BEST ROUTE BETWEEN ALL PARTS of
ENGLAND and SCOTLAND

PASSENGERS BY THE WEST COAST ROUTE
MAY HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF TRAVELLING BY THE
NEW “GRAMPIAN CORRIDOR” DINING CAR TRAINS
of the CALEDONIA COMPANY in SCOTLAND.

WEST COAST NIGHT EXPRESS LONDON (Euston) & SCOTLAND

The Finest Vehicles in Europe, Vestibule Throughout.

BREAKFAST, LUNCHEON & DINING CARS.

Passengers
traveling between England and the North of Scotland
can go via EDINBURGH (Princes Street) and break their
journey there, in both directions, without extra charge or inconvenience,
and after visiting the places of interest in Edinburgh, resume their
journey North or South from the same Station by the
”GRAMPIAN CORRIDOR
or other Express Trains.


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #8

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with
Classic Trains. Check this advertisement out (from The Official Guide of the Railways – 1956)

Great Northern(GN)

Great Way To CALIFORNIA via the Pacific Northwest

Chicago-Minneapolis-St. Paul-Spokane-Seattle & Portland-San Francisco-Los Angeles

TOWERING PEAKS in Glacier National Park in the Montana Rockies.

LOFTY MT. RAINIER looks over Seattle and Tacoma.

GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE is only one of the fascinating sights awaiting travelers in San Francisco.

Rail Fare to San Francisco is no more on Great Northern’s incomparable Great Dome EMPIRE BUILDER

To delight travel-experienced patrons who are planning a fall trip to California, suggest that they route themselves via the Pacific Northwest.

Great Northern’s EMPRIE BUILDER, now with Great Domes for both coach and Pullman passengers, takes the northern route across the nation - - more than two thousand miles of truly superb scenery.

Your patrons will thank you for sending them on a route where they can see the Mississippi River Palisades, Glacier National Park, the Rocky Mountains of Montana and Idaho. the Cascades of Washington and Oregon.

Connections with fine trains to and from California in Seattle or Portland. Rail fare from Chicago to San Francisco is no more via Great Northern.

For information:
P. G. Holmes
Passenger Traffic Manager
Great Northern Railway
St. Paul 1, Minnesota


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Evenin Gents-whats new `round here ? [4:-)]TOM-I`ll try a few of your fine ales tonight I think and as its saturday night,a round for the house in the old tradition -As to contests,MANAGER TED proposed a `worst livery ever` contest a little while back,little came of it at the time but it seemed to good to let pass-so how about it guys ? -doesn`t have to be eye-wateringly ghastly -there are some quite subtle `wrong `uns` lurking out there-any loco in burgundy with vermilion buffer beams,British Rail`s `corporate` blue&white ,The M&SWJt Rly`s` diaper `yellow ( sorry,but no other word does it justice)-any takers ? Right,since [4:-)]TOM has wisely declined to put up dome car pix which I abstracted entirely without permission,the easiest method is to send you to the source of the info-Tap (un)official Ontario Northland into your search engine,from there,open Mike Robin`s photo gallery > the photos>quick search "dome cars"-this should give you a selection of views. The cars are part of a 10-car set formerly used by B.C.Rail on the "coast starlight" dinner train and were formerly Milwaukee road stock,full info on site together with some truly stunning photo work of an attractive range of subjects-warning,keep some sandwiches near the computer-you could be there a while [swg] TOM-only software that I can think of that may be of use is marketed by Hornby,but uses different geometry to U.S proprietry track-will make enquiries Thanks for Brit F F-this would all be prior to 1923 `grouping` as noted,when the various independent companies were formed into The L.M.S (in this case),L.&N.E.R,S.R & G.W.R,-east & west coast routes were in competion for Anglo-Scots traffic for many years-the `race for the north` which I touched on about 100 pages ago,back when we were young and carefree................Heard a little tale concerning AWK a while ago,seems that before he turned up here,he was owned by a stage magician,who won him in a card game. Well the magician got himself a gig on a cruise liner and decided to take AWK with him,all was well until the first show-at the end of every trick,AWK would yell out "It`s in his pocket" "Its under the table" or whatever,totally ruining the show-after two weeks of this ,the magician was at his wits end. Worse was to come,the next night the ship hit an iceberg & sank immediately. Happily,the magician got away and eventually found a length of driftwood floating nearby,with the last of his strength he struck out and caught hold. When he had recovered his breath he was astonished to find AWK perched on the other end,before he could say a word the bird fixed him with a steely gaze and enquired "O.K smart****,where did you hide the ******* boat .................Right,since I`ve wandered so far `off topic` as to be barely visible in the distance,BORIS`S BIRTHDAY--Since all the Clan wi***o be present,I feel it would be best to have a `traditional`celebration-I.E way up in the high country,away from human habitation,The Can-Am park rangers concur and are rounding up all edible wildlife. Those of the clan still in the Old Country are being shipped in by Can-Am/ cymru Zeppelin service for the weekend -they are all delighted that`little Boris`seems to have wedding bells in his future,especially given the strange skin condition caused by his much-patched `latex lovelies`...the weekend seems set for traditional pursuits,eating,drinking,attempted murder and the sort of "social interaction" that would be frowned upon even in remote Appalachian communities ( dig them duelling banjo`s y`all ).........ENOUGH,back to reality -Just been back up & down the page and can hear the opening chords of "mr blue sky" ringing out of the juke-I can still remember E.L.O as as The Move,a classic sixties `pop` act out of Birmingham-could this be a sub-concious link to the G.N`s big sky blue paint.....? ROB (& TOM) doesn`t Amtrak #364 / #365 serve Windsor ? or am I thinking of Sarnia-assuming it`s still running. Nice little modelable train-4 car Amtrak set with power by VIA & Amtrak on alternate days, O.K-enough for now,lets have a looksee if anyone else is in and then fire up the galley for steaks,pizza,turkey rissoles (!) etc-catch you all later,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

G'day Sir Nick [C=:-)]

Great Awk tale! [swg] I always wondered where he originated. You see, one day while out on the port bridge wing down in the Caribbean, I was "shooting the sun" when something distracted me. Out of no where came this brilliantly colored bird - turned out to be a parrot - made a strange sound, awk, awk, awk - which is now what he, she or it answers to. Awk [swg]

Am I readin' what I'm readin' [?] There is to be a <gasp> wedding of our cloven footed friend, Boris with one of the "matched pair" from Deutchland, Hilda or Helga! Say it isn't so ........ this will definitely have to be looked into from the legal aspect by the authorities who oversee the high country in the Can-Am mountain range. A job for Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary and his earstwhile friend and companion, Mr. Doyle, Private Investigator!

Amtrak to Windsor [?] Nope. In fact the train that used to run from Chicago to Toronto has been discontinued due to the problems at the border clearing Customs. The train had a rather poor on-time-performance record anyway, but since "911" it got to the point where some folks felt they could have walked the rest of the way faster. Pity. I'm unaware of any Amtrak that passed through Windsor. Thought the run from Chicago passed well north of there. Rob [?][?]

Your pix are all set to go for our Sunday Photo Posting Day! and I think we were wise not to screw 'round with any copy right stuff. [tup]

Enjoy the weekend, mate!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams please And the steak sounds great.

I can see why the Great Northern was so popular that advert from the guide makes it sound like a wonderful route [wow].

Another great G. B. nostalgia. I suspect the Caledonian Grampian Corridor coaches would be quite similar to the L&NWR stock,athough I am not too sure about that.

The Caledonian had some very handsome locomotives and the passenger ones were painted Caledonian blue. There is a magnificent Single Wheeler #123 preserved in Glasgow as part of the Scottish collection.

As NICK says there was great rivalry at the time. In Scotland the Caledonian main competitors were the Glasgow & South Western rly. between Glasgow and Carlisle and the Glasgow suburbs. And the North British Rly. North and East of Glasgow.

Well my bride and I are going on a delayed honeymoon and 1st anniversary vacation. We were hoping to go to Old England but we are going to New England instead.If the weather permits we hope to visit a steam line. I have learnt that the old Union station in Providence has been converted in to a Brew pub. [;)][:-,].

TOM I will call in the bar as soon as I get back. I shudder to think what BORIS and AWK will get up to. [:O] What will AWKs part be at the combined Birthday/wedding [?]PETE.

[siberianmo]

Hello Pete!

Appreciate your stopping by and hope that you'll be around for Sunday Photo Posting Day! If not, be sure to do so when you return.

Have a great honeymoon/vacation/holiday in New England. Hope the rains are long gone by the time you arrive and that you get to see and do all the things on your agenda. A brew pub in a former rail station - heaven forbid! [swg] What WILL they think of next [?] [;)]

Glad you are enjoying those GN pieces. Yes, it was quite the railroad. By the by, I don't know when the next Great Britain Nostalgia piece will be Posted for I'm having a bit of difficulty locating more. But, I'll keep checkin'! [tup]

Awk at the wedding [?] Well, I suppose he could be counted on to perform a part . I'll have to think about exactly what it should be. Hmmmmmmmm. [:-^]

Be seein' ya! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

Back again,another Staropramen for me,a pint of Bathams for Pete and an Alexander Keith`s for yourself [4:-)]TOM-notice you have adopted [C=:-)] smilie-is this connected with your widely noted pizza tossing skills ?-the public need to know,P.s-like the Clueless & Doyle smilies-just as I imagined them [tup]..Just been back to O.N.site to double check directions earlier-seems B.C.Rail cars purchased to "satisfy public demand for domes & stainless steel"-the old `heavyweights` dont seem to cut the mustard apparently...apologies for mis-information re Amtrak,looks like Homer Simpson is right-beer burns brains-DOH!--also checked pix album-fine work my friend ! -many thanks. R.E- Brit F F,I`m sure the various companies had some sets of West coast Joint stock which worked through from Euston with Engine changes at Crewe & Carlisle,no doubt completely wrong ,but I`m sure PETE will put me back on the rails,assuming we catch him before his 2nd honeymoon. Back to E.L.O briefly,pop trivia time,did you know that the band was formed by Roy Wood,Later of Wizzard,whose supremely irritating hit " I wish it could be Christmas every day" will soon be infesting jukeboxes everywhere on crimbo compilations-Jeff Lynne was originally down as the bassist and piano player ( a good trick if you can do it ! ) -As you are a fan,you may want to check out "The Travelling Wilburys",the band Lynne put together with George Harrison,Bob Dylan,Roy Orbison & Tom Petty-lots of nice laid back grooves and tunes that stay with you all the way home [^] -now then ,does the Can-Am run a baggage R.D.C ? if not,can we sandwich one of the `Our Place` cars between 2 regular units,I`m thinking of supplies for the great Halloween night birthday/poss. wedding celebrations up the mountain-failing that,how about an `Our Place`chartered "special"--as the branch terminus doesn`t appear to have a run round,how about the O N box,the M.E.S.S reefer & a club car or similar topped & tailed with the FP9`s-naturally pix would be required but suspect this would not be to much of a hardship [swg]-collect revellers from behind `Our Place` 8pm sharp (all time zones),travel via Can-Am Central,return after Clueless & Doyle have completed preliminary interviews of suspects & witnesses.............Right,looks like it`s ten past late so if theres any of that rum left I`ll have a wee noggin `for the road`,share the rest out between you,enjoy your day of rest tomorrow,see you all monday,moolight mile for me,take care,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Yo Nick [C=:-)] Why, mate, I haven't the foggiest what you are referring to [?] Moi using YOUR smilie [?] Couldn't be - wouldn't be - ain't no way. Perhaps you should check again! [swg]

The RDC roster of the Can-Am includes RDC2's and 3's which have compartments to accommodate baggage, with the RDC3 having the greater baggage area. They can easily be placed in a consist to achieve the "look" you suggested. I also have quite an inventory of VIA Rail "smoothsides" in the old Blue and Yellow livery - all kinds of baggage cars and R.P.O.'s. These might even look better. Of course, the RDC3 will provide seating AND baggage, whereas going with a "pure" baggage car, necessitates the use of an additional car. Hmmmmmmm. Your call! [swg]

Unfortunately, the M.E.S.S. cars are 40 ft boxes, not reefers. I do have some reefer equipment in the "reitred" freight display case, just won't have the roadnames we would prefer. My loco inventory does not include F9's, plenty of F7's and E8's in appropriate livery. Let me see what I can muster up. Bon ide, mon ami! [swg]

I'm familiar with the Traveling Wilburys, put out some fine tunes. Check out this URL: http://www.wilburys.info/disc.html

Didn't know of the trivia you put forth regarding E.L.O. but it stands to reason that the talent in any of those bands had starts elsewhere - just makes sense. I'll be waiting to hear "I wish it could be Christmas every day" - has it been released in Europe yet [?]

Dont' sweat the small stuff regarding Amtrak and Windsor. It would be nice, for sure - but the latest news regarding our national passenger rail carrier is that they will most probably sell off their only route that could possible earn them some money - the Northeast Corridor. A shame, but many in Congress are H-bent on having them pack it in. I don't blame our President or the ones before him - the blame goes squarely on teh shoulders of the "lunkheads" we send to Congress. They are too busy trying to engage in the "art of compromise" that at times I seriously doubt if very many of them could tell the forest from the trees. And as "leaders," not too many could lead a starving rat to a mountain of cheese. And I can be quoted on that, thank you very much! Don't ask me how I REALLY feel! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. [tdn] Okay, I know - [soapbox] and [#offtopic], so go ahead you cloven footed wonder Ring the Bell! [swg] Drinks on me! [tup]

Okay, time to think about doing something other than attend to this keyboard and monitor! I'm turning into a Cyclops! [alien]

Enjoy your Sunday and 'see' you at the Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening. Tom Nice continued GN disscussion betwixt your good self and Ted this one really did flick some switches. Nick wan't too far off that Scamtrak train did come up through sarnia and then on up through London and eventually to Toronto. I'm wondering if Via still runs a Sarnia port Huron train then Via has a couple conecting trains from Sarnia to Brantford. A possibility don'tchathink ? Keep me posted on the Churhill thing, heather's never been more west of the Sault so why not more west and more North ?[;)] As to H&H nursing Dan,your probably right let the profesionals do what they do best. assuming the locaal authorities give Boris [alien] thier blessing Why not hitch up to the Hilda ( Helga being the Mom ? )Leon could be the bestman / witness / security guy. Awk might as well marry them as Nick's and your follow up stories would seem to prove hiss exceptionalvocabulary. Might give the Park rangers in the gorge less poaching problems , as the family wierd could regulate the populations of the migratory animals. [#offtopic] wring it up "frankengroom" I wonder how many other people have had similar incidents with their ductwork as you did. Seeing as how the latest Legionaires problem in a Toronto nursing how finished up,you indeed were a luckey man. Pete and Tom Again some more quality info from accross the big lake,trains of all flavours and types are what we are about [tup] You never know tom the selling of the Northeast Corridor may end up being a good thing. In the right hands it may just continue to turn a profit and expand. Who knows that may even make policy makers save other heavy use areas in similar fashion. Your passenger rail may not be dead yet. Al & Nick Some good continuing dome car and passenger train talk[tup] I'm looking forward to the dome pics as well [^] .Good to have seen Doug fly by again makes as feel a bit more complete. well gents think I'm caught up for now. I'll be looking forward to the pictures due jour tomorrow. And I'll be throwing up a couple from Ted's vault as well. See you soon. Rob

[trolleyboy]

Okay as is usually the case, I'll lead off the sunday picture fest. I'm going to do it in two post thought one for Ted and one for myself. I'll get my lone shot out of the way first off. Seeing as I had done in the last two Sunday's pictures, I tried to tie the pictures posted to the most recent calssic juice post that I produced. I'll endeavour to do the same this week with one slight difference. I have no pictures of Brantford and Hamilton equipment. I do have one shot of a Chicago Elgin and Aurora interurban car. It's a railway style ( monitor roofed } car built by Kulhman in 1909 same time as the frist order for the B&H. Not entirly the same car but close enough. The B&H cars were essentially "off the rack cars " with few railway specific details so the CA&E car should give the correct impression. Doug can correct me but I beleave this car is photographed at his museum. Or of not it's at Rockhill any how enjoy the shot. Rob

[trolleyboy]

Okay the next shots are of Manger Ted's home layout. I won't put up descriptions as I'll leave that to the owner of the photographs. Sorry Ted if they aren't the 4 you wanted I deletd your email and lost the scrap of paper I wrote the frame numbers on [banghead]The rest of Teds layout shots and his comentary on them can be found on page 6 of my railimages album. I know several of you have already looked at them, but lets give Ted the large round of kudos and appropriate back slaps for his fine work. Thanks Rob

[Anonymous]

Quick comment on shots courtesy {b]Rob's[/b] railimages album. #1=upper level of west end (applogies for leaning Burlesque House). #2=looking south east to Union Station (P.C.C. car on flat on siding). #3=same shot as #1. #4=upper level, Greenlease car dealer next to Station. Many chnages since this early effort.

[siberianmo]

SUNDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

SUNDAY PHOTO POSTING DAY! and yes, WE ARE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.

Just slip your messages through the mail slot on either set of front doors; photo’s too! [tup]

Info for the Day:


QUIZ WHAT WAS missing YESTERDAY [?]

INDEX

Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

Fallen Flags (passenger ops)

106 SP ..………. 106 MoPac ……. 108 WP ………… 109 Frisco
112 CNR ………. 112 Heralds …… 114 ACL ………… 115 SCL
116 D&RGW ….. 118 RI .………… 119 D&H ………… 120 PRR
122 NYC ………. 124 UP.………… 125 AT&SF …….. 127 B&O
128 CM&StP.…. 129 CB&Q .……. 130 Soo Line ....... 133 C&NW
134 SP&S …….. 136 GN

Passenger Train Nostalgia

112 ………. CNR Ad - Super Continental Time Table
113 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 ”Start ups” 1800s & early 1900s
117 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Ad - Vista-Dome sleeper observation-lounge
121 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Ad - CP Hotels & Lodges
124 ………. A tale of Classic Trains BC Rail RDC trip
127 ………. B&O Ad - Strata-Dome
127 ………. B&O Ad – Encor!
129 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 Ad - CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #1 Poster - East Coast Route
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #5 Poster - CP 1886
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #6 Poster - CP 1950s
134 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #7 Poster - Washington & Old Dominion Railway
134 ………. Personal RR journey CPR’s “The Canadian”
135 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #2 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #3 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #8 Ad – Great Northern
Classic Juice by trolleyboy ROB

116 Classic Juice #1 (The London & Port Stanley L&PS)
123 Classic Juice #2 (The Niagara St. Chatharines Toronto Railway NS&T)
131 Classic Juice #3 (The Montreal & Southern Counties Railway –MS&C)
134 Classic Juice #4 (The Brantford and Hamilton B&H)

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 01:15:55 (137) Inclusive Post!

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 07:12:55 (137) Inclusive Post!

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 07:17:49 (137) He’s baaaaaack!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 07:27:44 (137) Saturday’s Info & Summary

(5) passengerfan Al Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 10:02:43 (137) Domes!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 11:18:57 (137) reply to passengerfan

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 15:19:35 (137) Great Britain Nostalgia #3 – Poster: L&NW&C

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 16:55:28 (137) Nostalgia #8 – ad: GN

(9) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 17:36:52 (137) Inclusive Post! & Awk story

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 18:06:51 (137) reply to nickinwestwales

(11) pwolfe Pete Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 18:56:23 (137)

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 19:17:28 (137) reply to pwolfe

(13) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 20:12:47 (137) an idea!

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Oct 2005, 21:13:20 (137) reply to nickinwestwales

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here are some selected pix from Nick’s Pix Album

But first an excerpt from Nick’s Post on 12 Oct 2005, 20:39:33

QUOTE: O.K-I`m going to go straight for the "Tales from the pool room" train story before responding `cos there`s so much good stuff there I`d get bogged down and run out of steam before getting properly started.......O.K-Is everybody sitting comfortably,...then I`ll begin--My thinking here is that most of you will have main-line journeys to describe,overnight trips on the high iron and such,so It occurred to me that something a little more bucolic might make an interesting contrast--Thus it was--An unexpected offer from missisnick to take a trip up the coast from Pembrokeshire to Merioneth to ride on the Tal-Y-Lyn Rly ( a long-term strategy that resulted in Hannah ,age 4 & a half..............) brought us to Tywyn,where the line connects with the former Cambrian Rlys (later G.W.R ,B.R,etc) std gauge line from Dovey Jn to Pwehelli,For those who have neglected their studies of Welsh narrow gauge lines of late, ,scroll back,a description of the line has been posted on a (much)earlier page-so,where was I-right,arrived at wharf station,eager & ready,train waiting in platform-loco #7-Tom Rolt 0-4-2t (Andrew Barclay 1949 for 3` gauge,rebuilt Pendre works 2`3"),train included original 1865 coach stock,plus former Glyn Valley Tramway 1st class car(supplement payable). Also in the yard,former Corris Railway #4 "Edward Thomas"-0-4-2t-Kerr-Stuart "Tattoo" Class(1921),in Corris Railway livery,waiting to rotate with next down train -onto train and away,through the impossibly narrow bridge at the top of the yard and into a deep,dark but mostly damp cutting,between slate slab fences held together with baling twine,climbing up between the cottage yards to to Tywyn Pendre (Town ) stn-the main depot of the line..here we found #2 "Dolgoch" ( 1865,Fletcher-Jennings) in light steam at the end of the headshunt,diesel shunter#5 " Merseysider" and others on the shed roads,off quickly-As you leave Tywyn,you are following the right side of the valley of the avon Fathew,on a gentle rise to Rhyd-Yr-Onen,steepening up to Dolgoch Falls,then turning across the watershead into the Dysinni valley,up to the new terminus at Nant Gwernol,about a half mile beyond the old pass. stn at Abergynolwyn.At the first passing point (Brynglas) we crossed with #1 " Tal-Y-Lyn" (Fletcher-Jennings,1864) and at the next (Quarry siding) #3 "Sir Hadyn ( ex -Corris 0-4-2t,Falcon wks,1888 ) Arrived at Nant Gwernol (one-engine-in-steam on extension) and decided to"do the tour" of nature walks etc and get the following train down ( a secret plot to get a ride behind "Tal-y-lyn"-a little beauty of an engine) arrived back at staion to find #4 "Edward Thomas" on the point,but managed to get my all-time favourite pic on the run back down-#1 "Tal-y-Lyn" pulling into the bottom of the loop at Abergynolwyn--have sent pixs to TOM-may well appear on sunday,gentlemen its been a joy to read the tales from the poolroom so far

Tales from the Pool Room #1


Tales from the Pool Room #2


Tales from the Pool Room #3


More from Nick later on - enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G’day Mates!

Some responses are in order, but remember – We are CLOSED on SUNDAYS! However, it IS Sunday Photo Posting Day! [yeah]

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 16 Oct 2005, 00:04:32, Posted: 16 Oct5 2005, 00:24:09, Posted: 16 Oct 2005, 00:33:05

Hi Rob – Yes, I’m familiar with that Amtrak/VIA Rail route. Last time I checked, there was considerable consternation over the discontinuance of the VIA portion of the route and I seem to recall that a reinstitution was going to be made – however, it was hardly “friendly” insofar as the scheduling was concerned. Again, I’m not certain about that … will put it on my “list” of things to check out. The only possibility for me getting to the Rendezvous in Toronto by train would be along the “corridor.” That’s why I inquired about the Windsor Station and transportation from Detroit. Flying direct to Toronto saves a lot of nonsense – and probably would wind up costing about the same overall. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Regarding that wedding, which seems to be accelerating along – better be ready for the Can-Am County to intercede and put a stop to it. The matter is being researched now, and from preliminary reports, there’s no way the County government will grant the license to these two, given the genetic history and makeup of one cloven footed “being” who goes by the name of Boris. More to follow …..

I could honestly give a Rat’s Patoot if Amtrak sells of the NE Corridor. All I want to see in this country is a modern, safe, reliable and cost effective passenger rail system. That’s all [?] <geesh> I’d have better luck wishing for the moon to turn purple.

Nice shot of that blue trolley! [tup]

Good work, Ted! I can “see” Kansas City and Union Station in your efforts. [tup][tup]

Okay, guys – let’s settle into our day of rest and enjoy the pix! [tup][tup][tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here are some from my Lionel O gauge Polar Express shelf system railroad. These have quickly become Classic Toy Trains and yesterday two additional cars arrived – a baggage and diner. Enjoy! [tup]

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Polar Express Posters with new arrivals (baggage & dining cars) above – Oct 14, 2005


PE Shelf System – New arrivals! – Oct 14, 2005


PE Shelf System – Oct 14, 2005


PE Shelf System – Oct 14, 2005


PE Shelf System – New arrivals! – Oct 15, 2005


PE Shelf System – Oct 15, 2005


PE Shelf System – Oct 15, 2005


PE Shelf System – Observation deck – Oct 15, 2005


Note: Go to http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber (pages 2 & 3) to see the complete shelf system, from start to finish.

That’s it – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[BudKarr]

Gentlemen of the bar!

Although you are officially closed, please allow me to make commentary on the fine efforts put forth this day by Msrs. Rob and Tom on behalf of Ted and Nick. I am curiously bewildered why it is that an intermediary is required for the posting of pictures. However, mine is not to reason why. Thank you for the entertaininment.

Tom, you have quite an imagination with that system you constructed. I visited your album and you have achieved a great deal with the three different scales in your basement. I can see how this hobby of yours can become quite the addictiony. When done well, as Ted and Nick have, there must be a great deal of satisfaction that goes along with it. Or are you creative people never satisfied with your work? Now, that I can understand. Striving for anything less than perfection earns one what they deserve.

Good day and thank you again.

BK

[Anonymous]

First of all, my quiz answer is The Saturday Summaries itemized posting list.

And now for something completely different! In reference to equipment questions by Rob, we have no Kulhman cars at IRM. Of the Chicago Elgin and Aurora flavor cars, we have:
#308 Niles 1906
#309 Hicks Car & Locoworks 1908
#321 Jewett Car Co. 1914 and
#431 Cincinnati Car Co. 1927
Here's a pic of our #308 and #309?

Now here's a pic of a car I know nothing about. Can someone identify it?

Tom, your basement layouts are absolutely incredible!

[Anonymous]

Sage remarks BK! Anything in the offing? Remarkable from the observer, yet lacking in participation? Looking forward to "singular" contributions in the near future, albeit not from a professional site but, of course, your own hand.[:-^]

[siberianmo]

Hello to BK, Ted and Doug

Appreciate your logging on this fine day! Doug nice guess - but nope! [tdn] The QUIZ remains unsolved! [swg]

Doug My guess is Rob will "jump" to your question with the answer! [tup] What in the world happened to the car in the 2nd pix [?] Just the ravages of neglect and time, perhaps [?] Hate to see 'em like that. Thankfully, there are people like you who bring 'em back. [tup]

BK That's an interesting posit and I fully concur with the premise: one reaps what they sow in this world. Setting sights too low, will miss the target every time. It goes on and on .... [swg] Thanx for the kind words.

Ted Neat-o, for your work!

Catch ya later! Enjoy the pix to come ......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!! Here are some more selected pix from Nick’s Pix Album

TGV for BK


TGV for BK


Landore Shed for Pete


Dome for Al – Rob – Tom


Monster for Ted


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

P.S. “Copy right” infringements prevent me from Posting some ONR domes. Sorry!

[BudKarr]

Gentleman Theodorebear,

It appears I have somehow tweaked your sensitivites with my commentary.

A partial quote from last Sunday:

QUOTE: BudKarr Posted: 09 Oct 2005, 18:16:58 Quote

I should explain that my interests do not necessarily center on railroads. However, I do appreciate riding them and looking at the photographs. My activities preculde my being able to hobby them and although I am capable with a camera, I regret that my inventory does not include anything of worth for viewing by this esteemed gathering.

Therefore I shall not be engaging in your proposed exchange. I will continue to marvel at the efforts those of you, including you, put forth for the entertainment of all.

A joust on Sunday is unncessary, would not you concur?

BK

[Anonymous]

Barndad, the # 2 pic: a badly disfigured car, as if from the "Wax Museum," appears to be a standard 70' passenger car. From the upper window panes being (apparantly) done over with sheet metal, it could be nearly any Road's "re-shop.". I will guess A.T.S.F.! Do you have another shot? Shot #1: those are North Shore trucks, wrong? And that Line had many variations within the #200 series, right? Okay, more questions than answers...I'll guess ATSF and North Shore "clones."

[Anonymous]

Here's another pic of my mystery car. It's been totally gutted by fire, and is absolutely empty inside. I could see no markings on the exterior to help me identify it.

This car resides in the back portion of IRM property, but it's easily seen. Even further back on our property are 4 more lines of cars which few people ever visit

...and then there are 2 more lines even further South

Believe it or not, there is more property not shown which is currently being groomed, and track is being added to expand the existing layout.
Heyyyyy ... Cards are looking good in the 4th!

[passengerfan]

Good Afternoon everyone and thanks for the dome picture. That particular car is rather interesting. It is now numbered 900 for the ONR. It began life as a smooth side full dome for the Milwaukee Road delivered by P?S in December 1952 as there number 57. It was operated in the OLYMPIAN HIAWATHA between Chicago and Seattle/Tacoma originally later operated in the AFTERNOON and MORNING HIAWATHAS between Chicago and Minneapolis. Sold to Amtrak in 1971 becoming their 9381. It was then sold to a private owner in Portland Oregon and named the SILVER GARDEN for conversion to a restaurant in Portland, Oregon. Fortunately the car was never converted to a restaurant and was resold to another private owner in 1985 becoming the WARSAS EXPRESS at that time. In 1991 it was sold to Westours and became their number 557 for service in Alaska summers.
In 1994 the car was sold to Transisco Tours and was resold to Washington Central in 1997 and while under their ownership it had the fluted stainless panels added fo give it the appearnace of a stainless steel car. Thank goodness the car already operated on six wheel trucks as I.m sure this added a lot of weight to an already heavy car. It was sold to The BCOL and was named Stardust for service between North Vancouver and Prince George but lasted only a few months in this service before that operation was shut down. In 2004 it was sold to its present owner Ontario Northland Railway.
The ONR owns two additional dome cars one a former Santa Fe pleasure dome 500 now numbered ONR 902. This car was sold to Amtrak in 1971 becoming their number 9350 and and in 1993 went to Transisco Tours becoming their TEXAN and was sold to Washington Central in 1997 becoming their 153. It went to the BCOL as their 153 TWILIGHT and now is the property of the ONR.
The other ONR dome traces its origin to the California Zephyr and was built as Western Pacific 812 SILVER FEATHER a Vista-dome Coach. In 1981 the car was sold to Auto-Train becoming their number 461. In 1993 it was purchased at Auction by the Texas Southern. The Washington Central purchased the car in 1997 and numbered it 151. It was converted into a dining car by the WCRC for its dinner train operations. It was transferred to BCOL ownership with the number 151 and the name MOONGLOW was added. At the present time it is not being used by the ONR so it probably is going to become a spare car.

[Anonymous]

Entertainment has been for those eager to be entertained, no? I welcome the cerebral as well as tactile at any time. BK, your "cerebral" contributions are as honored as any other input and perhaps, more so. Please do not find offense where there is none. Looking forward to your insightful thoughts, whether it be Sunday or on Boris' Birthday.[:D] Be of good cheer mon ami. Happy rails

[nickinwestwales]

Evenin` All-First up quiz-would it be the pic of `Our Place`thats missing ?,difficult to tell as my screen is currently changing format every few seconds,turning the whole thing into some kind of `60`s pop-art weirdness-hey DOUG-youve got steam up on your switcher logo-neat trick [^]-mystery car looks suspiciously like the last `Our Place` charter (what a weekend...just wish I could remember it ). Incredible collection,HUGE respect for you guys that have the vision,willpower & energy to put this stuff back together. In this country,railways just linked up what was already there-over there they opened up the country and as such deserve a far greater recognition as part of the national heritage. Folks like Yourself,GUNNS,ROB & DAN are engaged in more important work than you realise.....keep it up my friend [tup] BK -more than happy to track down any pix you might wi***o see or have to illustrate a submission,although can`t promise speedy response see above French (colour) & Spanish (B+W) T.G.V`s-still looking for pendolino`s & D.R. steam-stay with us,if they are out there,I`ll get `em mate !! By the by-thanks for kind words R.E layout-very much a work in progress ,as previously noted-as much of the pleasure is in the journey as the destination-no real interest in rivet-counting perfection,but happy to make it as good as my skills, time & funds allow-a philosophy that I suspect others of us subscribe to. [4:-)]TOM- Nice to see the `High Line` again-Is that now a 5 car set ?-what is the upper limit for those Lionel locos to haul ?-Imagine with all those car lights the power consumption must be pretty fierce--since You`ve run out of space for new layouts-how about a subway system inside the ductwork with which you had such an unpleasant encounter [}:)] MANAGER TED-likewise,a welcome re-visit-looking forward to updates-this time with some trains in [swg]-if they are as good as the structure modelling, it will be a treat indeed [tup] CHANDLER ROB-what a little sweetie of a car-for one of those I`m sure I can fit in an extra run of track somewhere-thanks also for bringing TEDS work back into the public gaze. O.K-on to my own submissions-the second batch requires little further explanation other than the Landore shed selection-This was formerly the principal Great Western Rly shed in Swansea,mentioned in PETE`s rail trip tale. By the time these shots were taken (through a carriage window on a grey,wet,classically Welsh day) the site was reduced to handling Royal Mail dedicated stock only. Since then the Royal Mail service has been discontinued and the site appears to be mothballed,although limited use for overnight stabling of Inter-City 125`s is a possibility.--N.B-lower right shot shows B.R. `corporate` blue & white referred to yesterday. As to the first batch,a rather fuller explanation is called for--1--the "impossibly narrow"bridge at the yard throat-bear in mind that the track is only 2`3" gauge, 2-- engine #4 Edward Thomas simmering in the wharf stn yard, 3+4-- coaches,including original 1864 stock,wharf stn, 5-- engine #5 Midlander in Pendre yard, 6-- ex G.V.T 1st class saloon ( see pic of `Sir Theodore`,posted last sunday ) , 7-- my all time favourite pic-the grand old dame herself,-#1,Tal-Y-Lyn pulling into the loop at Abergynolwyn, 8-- engine #2 Dolgoch on the headshunt at Pendre, 9--engine #7 Tom Rolt (plus degenerate hippy scribe) at Nant Gwernol, 10--Tal-Y-Lyn again,at Brynglas, 11--see 9, 12--#4 Edward Thomas At Nant Gwernol. In my eagerness to post these,I neglected to put them in any sort of order,apologies for confusing end result,enjoy.....!!-Any requests for next sunday will be supplied if possible. have a good week everybody,speak soon,nick[C=:-)]

[nickinwestwales]

Just `refresheshed`-AL thanks for `heads up` on the dome car,as previously noted,www.onrgallery.com will drop you right in there-what a history,that car has seen more travels than the Flying Dutchman of legend-You should get in touch with the O.N.R group-I suspect you know more about their equipment than they do,Frank Volhardt would be well worth seeking out as he seems to have an equivalent encyclopaedic volume of esoteric information to yourself and may be able to fill in any gaps you have (or vice-versa ).... MANAGER TED-now is that ugly or what ?-I mean it must be an engine,It`s got rails under it but for goodness sake-what bits are where,what does what-and how..or even why...?..and those marvellous Victorian gentlemen look so proud of it-a simpler age when anything was possible....................[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Nick

Saw your Inclusive Post and thought I'd respond ...

Your contributions to our Sunday Photo Posting Day! are always right on the mark! Thanx. [tup] Trains, trains and more trains, irrespective of size, shape and form, that's us! [swg]

My guess is that the PE is now at it's designed limit for hauling. The loco is metal, whereas the tender and cars are plastic. The consist is relatively light. I haven't noticed any difference in the throttle setting on the transformer with the addition of those two cars - seems to be operating as it was. The Lionel provided transformer has done well (thus far), although there have been some horror stories Posted on the forums regarding failures.

A subway system [?] Don't laugh, I have entertained the notion, but NOT within the duct work. I'm thinking of something that would wind it's way beneath the Can-Am. [yeah] As a former "strap hanger" from NYC, I've seen some great replicas of subways cars, but all modern. I came VERY close to purchasing an O-gauge three car set a few years ago, but backed out. This was before construction of the Can-Am. I was thinking "shelf" back then, but for the family room! Now that there's a bona fide train room and a "place" for it, maybe, just maybe ...... [swg]

Sorry, no cigar regarding the QUIZ question! At least you NOTICED there IS a QUIZ! [tup]

Regarding the "wedding" of our cloven footed friend, Boris and one of the "matched pair" from Ooooompah Land. Stay tuned, the Can-Am County Attorney General is looking into the legaility of pairing the likes of these two. They are dusting off some rather archaic statutes of law to determine whether "almost human" qualifies for marriage in this jurisdiction. It ain't over 'til it's over, but don't buy any wedding gifts just yet. [swg]

Have a good night and see ya Monday one and all!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]