"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[siberianmo]

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”Our” Place has an award recognizing patrons of the bar for contributions made during a given period. The award is known as the MVP – Most Valuable Patron.


The MAY-JUNE winner is barndad Doug! second recipient(s) of the MVP!




Congratulations, Doug! – all food ‘n drink is on the house between the hours of 2 – 4 AM. Oh, I see we’re closed then – sorry ‘bout that! [swg]

In the gift basket accompanying the handsomely designed and framed Award Certificate you will find “chits” for food ‘n drink at ”Our” Place redeemable at your pleasure. [tup][tup][tup]


The criteria used for the MVP selection:
(not necessarily in order shown)

1. Quality of Posts
(offering info relevant to the “theme” of the bar: Classic Trains)

2. Inclusiveness of Posts
(recognizing the efforts of others)

3. Acknowledgment of others
(addressing the questions, comments & contributions of others)

4. Banter at the bar
(engaging in good natured exchanges of humor)

5. Dependability of Posts
(regular participation and relevance to events taking place)

6. Behind the scenes support
(Emails, help with organizing events, etc.)

7. Special events support
(Birthday Bashes - Sunday Photo Posting Day - Encore! Saturday, etc.)

8. Number of Posts
(self explanatory)


Once again, this was a very difficult decision in that we had (and have) so many absences that narrowing it down to one proved most challenging. That is why a two-month period was used. This was a period where most all of the regulars experienced at least one absence – some planned, some not! Every one of the guys who stuck with us during my absence (and the others) are MVPs in all respects! [tup] [tup] [tup]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!


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[LoveDomes]

Hiya Cap’n Tom and fellow travelers at the bar (or wherever you may be!!),


Appears as if the ru***o get going on a 5-day weekend – stretching it to 6 – has begun for many! [wow] Quiet ‘round the joint today – really quiet.

I’ll have a frosty cold bottle of Keith’s Ale and a foot long “Lars Special” if you please. No point in plunking down any cash for a round – as there’s still quite a bit left over in the “Lars Box” so I see. [swg]

Uh-oh, is that Dave I see pulling out of the lot in his new Porsche – guess those “Feds” pay better than they did back in my Navy days! [swg]

Some changes are on the way, huh [?] I read that post of “Bergies” and it appears that a modernization scheme is underway in earnest. Awright – ‘bout time. Hopefully they’ll provide a better way to handle the JOs with the nonsense being posted on all of the forums.

Anyway, THANKS a bunch for keeping us clued in both here and by email! [tup] My guess is we’ll probably not have any changes to the clientele ‘round this place.

Hey – no more STARS, huh [?] Well, that’s gonna burst a bubble or two for those people who really thrive on self recognition. I see our “Steamed Proprietor” is way up the Membership page in terms of total posts – so when they strip you of your STARS, then what [? You go back to “Commander” [?] I think the pay is better with the latter than the former! [swg]

So, we’ll all have some time away from the bar – which I hope lets the guys recharge and maybe even prepare some material for when we resume on or about July 12th (which is an Anniversary date for “Our” Place by the way!!). My guess is Tom will surely enjoy the break . . . . [tup]


Haven’t got much to add this day, aside from the fact that the Mets are happy to be rid of the BoSox! [tdn] <grin> Still have that double digit division lead and as long as Hotlanta is buried in the heap – I’ll take that as a successful season! [yeah]


May encounter some down time ‘round my house too – and it is possible that it will coincide with the forum shut down. My computer room/den/office/storage room/catch all locker is being converted over to a hospice room. So, I’ve got to find a place to set up shop in this house of ours – Lord knows we have the room, just a matter of rearranging the “precious heirlooms” that the Mrs. seems to think we’re going to take with us when we depart this Earth! <grin> Should my absence be more than a day or two, I’ll certainly give you a heads up . . . .


With the ‘morrow bringing Canada Day! I’ll yield to you, Cap’n for the posts. Undoubtedly you have more where that one from today came from! [tup] Nice work and I enjoyed checking it out. Dontchajustwi***hat you could board one of those fine trains – right now – and head off to whoknowswhere [?] I surely do – many times!

One more, then I’ve gotta skedaddle.


Until the next time!


Lars

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom, think i'll mosie into the kitchen and rustle me up a couple of bacon cheese burgers with a platter of home fries, can't forget that coke in the bottle to wash it all down, who's with me[?]

Your retired friend was quite right in his opinion, some of the top SP officals presided over the Penn Central diaster, these same person looted the profits from the rail side and reinvested them into communications and natural gas ventures. With the exception of SPRINT Network the only profitable venture that plowed revenue back into rail operations, the reinvestments were a total diaster, when the debts came due, it was necessary to sell SPRINT to satisfy the payment !! Without this ace, the handwriting was on the wall, and Wall Street took notice, Southern Pacific's Standard & Poor rating was reduced to the point that no lender would provide credit for new equiptment purchases or the level needed to maintain a semblence of basic rail service.

Though it can't be confirmed, some tell of the attempt to discourage shippers from using the SP, practices from the time seem to suggest a hostile attitude toward those who conducted business at all levels with the SP . This anti-rail attitude was pervasive through out a management that envisioned selling the rail side of the business for maxium profits.

The Rio Grande merger was accelerated by the ICC to stabilize the SP, new management and a return to some old proven ideas did increase business, but the long term dammage had been done. However, the Government did avoid being responsible for a second Conrail , what would have been the only option as the demise of the Southern Pacific as a whole would have economic and nation security repercussions...

Doug, I have heard the Turbine under the overpass tale , I once heard of of one that was fired up in the shop and blew out all the windows out[:0][:0]

Rediculas to Sublime, we do it all at "Our Place" See what happens when great minds think alike[:D][:D] preytell the legened of the atomic powered toilet, ouch that one's going to burn[;)][;)]

Until later

Dave

[siberianmo]

READ THIS!

QUOTE: Bergie Posted: Today, 13:44:52
Content & Business Manager - Trains.com


Posts: 888
Joined: 22 Jan 2001
Location: US


As you may have heard by now, Trains.com is going through a complete redesign. The new site will launch sometime during the day on July 12 (most likely late afternoon). If you visit on July 12 and the site isn’t functioning, please be patience. Please note that our reader forums will be down July 10 – 12 as we prepare for the new launch of our site.

Please be sure your current Trains.com profile includes your up-to-date e-mail address as we will e-mail you on July 12 or 13 with details on how to re-register at Trains.com.

We appreciate your patience as we upgrade our site. We’re confident that you’ll be happy with the changes that we’re making and once you’ve gotten used to everything, you’ll be happier than ever before with your experience on our site. We know change can be difficult, but we’re certain you’ll find the change to be worth the effort.

Here’s an overview of the changes:

MAGAZINE SUBSCRIBERS

If you’re a subscriber to Model Railroader, Trains, Classic Toy Trains, Garden Railways, or Classic Trains...

By re-registering at the new Trains.com you will be able to not only keep your Trains.com profile up to date (including your forum profile, e-mail newsletter preferences, etc.), you will also be able to access information about your magazine subscriptions, any special issues or books you have on order, etc.

All your accounts – magazine subscriptions, e-mail newsletters, reader forums – will be tied together in one neat package.

Certain sites will have subscriber-only access areas. You must have a subscription to the magazine in question to access its subscriber-only areas. For example, a subscription to Trains doesn’t get you access to Model Railroader’s subscriber-only content.

Subscriber-only content includes:

Model Railroader: Product reviews will be accessible only by Model Railroader subscribers. The reviews will be posted prior to the magazine being shipped from the printer so you’ll see them before anyone else. Also, subscribers will be able to rate each product and leave feedback about the product (similar to many online retailer sites).

Trains: The Trains News Wire will be accessible only to Trains subscribers.

Classic Toy Trains: Over 300 product reviews and over 75 videos.

Garden Railways: Product reviews and select online extras.

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NON-MAGAZINE SUBSCRIBERS / REGISTERED USERS

If you’re not a magazine subscriber you’ll still have plenty to access at the new Trains.com. As in the past, the majority of our content doesn’t require registration.

Registered-users will receive:

Post questions in our reader forum.

Access to our Web cam.

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Receive any of our four e-mail newsletters.


FORUM USERS

There will be a new forum software platform. However, other than getting familiar with the new bells and whistles, life should go on as normal. Here’s an overview of the changes coming to the forums...

Yes, the current forum content will be moved over in its entirety.

Yes, you will be able to keep your current username, although it will now be referred to as “screen name.” The last step of our re-registration process is unlocking your old forum screen name. (Again, you will receive an e-mail with instructions.) When you go through the process, you’ll be able to unlock your old screen name and get back to business.

Yes, your post count from our current forum will move with you to the new forum.

No, there won’t be stars tied to the number of posts you’ve accumulated. It’s quality over quantity.


PRIVACY

As always, we value the relationship we have with our customers. You won’t receive spam as a result of sharing your e-mail address with us.
--------------------
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Trains.com

I will repeat this message from time to time to ensure that the customers of "Our" Place are made aware of these forthcoming changes.

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Canadian Railways of the Past

Number Six: Canadian National’s Super Continental


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Route map of the Super Continental

The Super Continental was a transcontinental Canadian passenger train operated originally by the Canadian National Railway beginning in 1955 and subsequently by VIA Rail Canada from 1977 until its cancellation in 1981. Service was restored in 1985 but was again eliminated in 1990. The original CNR train had a Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Winnipeg - Saskatoon - Edmonton - Jasper - Vancouver routing with daily service.


CNR passenger service in the postwar era

Following World War II, CNR's passenger fleet was in desperate need of modernization, and between 1946 and 1950 they purchased a total of 75 of new lightweight coaches and sleeping cars. However, post-war material shortages constrained the number of cars that CNR was able to procure commercially, leading to a significant programme of in-house refurbishment of older heavyweight equipment in the CNR carshops. Ultimately a total of 211 heavyweight cars were fitted out with new interiors, roller bearing trucks, and sealed windows. Nevertheless it quickly became apparent that refurbished equipment alone would not be sufficient to remain competitive, and in 1952 CNR placed a large order for new lightweight equipment. This order consisted of 218 coaches from the Canadian Car and Foundry Company in Montreal, as well as 92 sleeping cars, 20 dining cars, 17 parlour cars, and 12 buffet-sleepers from the Chicago-based Pullman-Standard Company.

Inauguration of service

Deliveries of the new cars were essentially completed by 1954, but CNR waited until 24 April 1955 to introduce its new transcontinental flagship Super Continental to replace its former flagship, the Continental Limited. Not coincidently, this was the same date that competitor Canadian Pacific Railway introduced its new streamlined transcontinental train The Canadian. However, despite the new and refurbished equipment and an attractive new black-and-green yellow-trim paint scheme, the Super Continental's mixture of equipment paled in comparison to CPR's gleaming all stainless-steel consist, produced for them by the Budd Company. An additional important distinction was that The Canadian featured scenic dome cars, which the Super Continental was prevented from using due to interference with electrification in Montreal. In 1964, CN started using dome cars on the western portion of the route.

Although the CNR was not completely dieselized until 1960, the Super Continental was from the outset hauled exclusively by a variety of diesel locomotives, including Montreal Locomotive Works FP-2s and FP-4s, Canadian Locomotive Company C-liners in eastern Canada, as well as General Motors Diesel FP9 units in western Canada.

Decline of passenger trains

By the 1960s, Canadian passenger trains were in serious decline, largely thanks to increased competition from automobiles travelling the then-new Trans-Canada Highway and from airlines. However, the CN aggressively marketed its services, even while CPR was losing interest in operating The Canadian. To help combat the perception that the CPR route through the Rocky Mountains was more scenic, CN in 1964 acquired a set of six ex-Milwaukee Road "Super Dome" cars (rechristened "Sceneramics" by CN) that had formerly seen service on the Olympian Hiawatha. These were placed into service between Winnipeg and Vancouver. But despite CNR's best efforts, ridership continued to decline throughout the 1970s, and the train operated at a loss.

VIA Rail takeover and first cancellation

On April 1, 1978, a new federal Crown corporation called VIA Rail Canada formally assumed responsibility for the passenger services of CN. VIA Rail also assumed responsibility for CP Rail's passenger services on October 29, 1978, giving it two transcontinental routes: the Canadian and the Super Continental. VIA Rail reconfigured these routes, making the Canadian a Toronto–Vancouver train and the Super Continental a Montreal–Vancouver train. Sleeping cars were exchanged in Winnipeg between the two trains. The Canadian became the company's premier transcontinental train and the Super Continental was relegated to secondary status. Nevertheless, a confluence of astute marketing, high gasoline prices, and rampant inflation actually led to an increase in ridership during the early 1980s. However, the 1981 federal budget of Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau's Liberal government led to fully 20% of VIA's route miles being eliminated. The Super Continental was among the trains immediately cut.

Such reductions in passenger service proved to be politically unpopular, and following the election of the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney in 1984, service was restored on June 1, 1985, but on a truncated route from Vancouver to Winnipeg via Edmonton that no longer lived up to the 'Continental' name. The Toronto/Montreal to Sudbury segment was eliminated, and the Capreol–Winnipeg segment was reduced to a triweekly nameless remote services train. During this period, VIA Rail was also able to re-equip the Super Continental with modern GMD F40PH locomotives. Unfortunately, on February 8, 1986 human error resulted in VIA's eastbound Super Continental colliding with a CN freight train at Dalehurst, Alberta, near Hinton. Twenty-three people lost their lives in what is still the worst accident in modern Canadian railway history.

The end

By the late 1980's, federal budgets were under serious pressure, and the Mulroney government's 1989 budget proved disastrous for VIA rail. The last trains left Winnipeg & Vancouver on January 14, 1990, afterwards the Super Continental was abolished. This left The Canadian as VIA's sole transcontinental train, which today operates three times a week Vancouver to Toronto only over the CN route of the original Super Continental rather than on its original CPR trackage. This gave rise to its nickname — the "Con-adian".

References

• Classic Trains, Spring 2005, Kalmbach Publishing, ISSN 1527-0718 pg. 67

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Continental"


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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
Did you miss the first four in the series[?] Click on the URL:
#1 Canadian Northern Railway (CNoR), page 246
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=246&TOPIC_ID=35270
#2 Northern Alberta Railways (NAR), page 249
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=249&TOPIC_ID=35270
#3 British Columbia Railways (BCR) (Two Parts), pages 261-262
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=261&TOPIC_ID=35270
#4 Hudson Bay Railway (HBRY), page 278
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=278
#5 Canadian Pacific’s “The Canadian”, page 313
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=313





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[siberianmo]

G'day!

A fine morning - HOWEVER - the petrol prices 'round these parts are nearing three bucks per gallon - just returned from fueling the bride's vehicle - $2.96 (rounded) - up nearly a dime from yesterday. Someone have a sneezing fit at OPEC or the traders market [?] [tdn]

Here's a Pix for Ted that may bring back a memory or three regarding the Union Pacific's turbines . . .

UP GE Turbo #71 (courtesy: donsdepot.donrossgroup.net)



My guess is we're going to be experiencing a bit of a drought over the next few days - so my Posts will be spread out, just to help keep us "up on the Forum page" and perhaps drive those insane, innane and otherwise idiotic "go no where" submissions from driving us to distraction! <geesh> Suggest our "batch Posters" do the same . . . [tup]

"Brains and spleen omlet," where oh where do you come up with these things [?] Good Gawde Gertie - how's it taste, by the by [?] [swg]

Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Wow. excuuuuse moi! Indeed the first reference to the Pennsy S2 was touched upon by none other than our "steamed" Proprietor Cap'n Tom found in a Lionel Tinplate flyer. That, in turn, expanded into a full disclosure of steam generated power. Not sure how I managed to transpose Bandad's follow up into the original.[:I] I was probably still in ecstacy from the latters pix posts of Crystal River.[:O] Tom, hope I get this request for a cuppa Joe addressed appropriatly, ahh thanks.[(-D] Dave, seems the faux pas factor is contagious? From the sublime to the ridiculous, may inadequetly cover atomic power for rail service. Remember U. P's gas turbines? IIrc, a Unit was thoughtlessly parked under a hiway overpass resulting in a melt-down of the asphalt road suface over-head. Then, there was the issue of noise levels which brought the wrath of local town's folk to legal action forbidding the hybrid from "ear shot."[:(!] There were other operating limitations as well which finally determined the fate of that bold innovative step in the evolution of motive power.[V] Strictly from an aesthetic point of view, I personally thought the design was among the cleanest lines of any on offer.[2c] Pete, in keeping with the fine tradition of a Celtic touch for the "Our" Place cuisine, perhaps you will consider Tom's offer seriously?[^] Glad to hear the ravages of Mother Nature have not directly affected our friends in the "great North East." Still, I wonder if CM3 has not encountered some stress from this heavy weather somewhere along his planned route.[:O] Right, T.G.I.F. to one and all. I must scoot or shoot my way outta here for now. Boris, between you and the Teutonic Twins, the galley has never reached such heights of deparvity. Please, do what you do best with that spatula BRAKA-BRAKA-BRAKA. No, not another brains and spleen omelet...the Bell man, the Bell![alien] Somebody HELP!!!

[siberianmo]

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SOMETHING SPECIAL arrives on Track #1

THIS morning![tup]

Watch for it BEFORE NOON!


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


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[siberianmo]

REMINDER!


Saturday, July 1st is Canada Day!

Let's turn our traditional ENCORE! Saturday into an "all things Canadian" event!



Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

We open at 6 AM.
(All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


FRIDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


It’s Friday! C’mon in – enjoy a cuppa freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee – a <light or <traditional breakfast from the Menu Board and one or two pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!


Daily Wisdom


Grammy has so many clothes, she never wears the same outfit once.
ENCORE! Yogi-ism



Info for the Day:


Railroads from Yesteryear –
ENCORE! New York Central (NYC)
Arrives Tuesday! – watch for it!


* Weekly Calendar:


Tomorrow is Canada Day , so in honor of our northern cousins, drinks are on the house for anyone claiming Canada as home – OR anyone who has blood relatives in Canada – OR anyone who has visited Canada – OR anyone who knows where Canada IS! [swg]

Tuesday is Independence Day so in honor of our 4th of July heritage, the bar will be OPEN the gals of ”Our” Place will be working, including for Cindy.Lunch is on the house for all! [tup] [swg]


TODAY: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday



MVP Award Winners

April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars
May – June . . To be announced


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Comedy Corner

Reasons “things” happen!

Variation Law: If you change lines (or traffic lanes), the one you were in will start to move faster than the one you are in now.


Bath Theorem: When the body is fully immersed in water, the telephone will ring.


Law of Close Encounters: The probability of meeting someone you know increases when you are with someone you don't want to be seen with.


Law of the Result: When you try to prove to someone that a machine won't work, it will.


Law of Biomechanics: The severity of the itch is inversely proportional to the reach.


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

NOW SHOWING:

. . . Sunday, June 25th thru July 1st: Blazing Saddles (1974) starring: Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little & Slim Pickins – and – Fierce Creatures (1997) starring: John Cleese, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kevin Kline & Michael Palin. SHORT: Ants in the Pantry (1936).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, July 2nd thru 8th: 1776 (1972): starring: William Daniels & Howard Da Silva – and – The Patriot (2000) starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger & Joely Richardson. SHORT: Movie Maniacs (1936).


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 00:34:24 (366) Thursday’s Info & 20-Post Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 05:14:11 (366) ChicagoLand Report!

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 07:16:43 (366) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(4) passengerfan Al Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 07:59:51 (366) Golden State Report!

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 09:27:24 (366) Gulf Coast Report!

(6) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 10:32:31 (366) Ontario Report!

(7) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 11:09:05 (366) Classic Steam #30 – Bruce Mines & Algoma Rwy

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 11:52:07 (366) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(9) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 15:37:09 (366) Island Report!

(10) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 15:47:42 (366) P.S. Pix!

(11) West Coast S Dav3 Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 16:37:54 (366) Left Coast Report!

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 17:23:04 (366) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(13) West Coast S Dave Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 17:56:49 (366) There once was a gal named Churchill . . .

(14) West Coast S Dave Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 19:30:49 (366) SP, a mighty proud road!

(15) wanswheel Mike Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 22:33:38 (366) ExtravaURLganza!

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 29 Jun 2006, 23:48:46 (366) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments



That’s it![tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

As you can tell, I'm STILL here - gave Leon the nite off - what a great boss, eh [?] <grin>

Really enjoyed those URLs, Mike - no need for me to take that trip now up to Churchill. Yeah, right! I'm going - and after viewing the scenery, I'm anxious. Cannot explain what my fascination is regarding places like that - but I just thrive on 'em. I suppose the Falklands will be next . . . [swg]

Dave - Mighty good stuff from our Left Coast Super Sleuth! Have no fear regarding the culinary skills of our Cyclops like cloven footed friend - he learned well from the "Master," and hs deomonstrated his proficiency from close attention to the recipes and cooking skills from our former Chief Chef, Nick/. Maybe we can talk Pete into taking over the kitchen labors . . . a thought!

A Ruskie nuke bomber, eh [?] Seems I read something about that many, many years back in Proceedings - familiar with that publication [?] Doubt if a civilian would be - but, one never knows! <grin>

Had a friend who was a retiree from SP - suffered through the dying days with the road. Unfortunately, this guy had nothing good to say about his career. Pity. He wasn't into the operational aspects - just an office pogue (polite term) who was more involved with business and the like. Anyway, his take on the demise had to do with what he believed was gross mismanagement at the upper levels. Sure, the decisions of the STB didn't help - but from this guys vantage point out in SoCal - he said they were done far before it all collapsed inward on 'em. Again, just what he told me.

Appreciate the Posts for the day, Gentlemen and I see we've come in with 16 (counting this one) - which really is holding our own . . . [tup]

Cardinals enjoyed one of their better days in weeks - they were off today! [swg]


Catch y'all in the AM!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[wanswheel]

Hi Tom and everyone, a Batham's for Pete, a Keith's for Rob's holiday, and I'll just watch the room spin (like a turbine)

Mets can't beat Sox without Bill Buckner.

Thanks for the good review on the typing of the electric list.

SP #1 for Dave
http://content.lib.washington.edu/transportation/image/49.jpg

Churchill in Canada
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=72273687&id=132

Great place to see the Northern Lights or just go fishing Tom
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=345735392&id=27
Station
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=446404880&id=44
Yard
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1826506705&id=79
Jeeps
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=44542723&id=37
Buses
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=86468882&id=37
Train
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1965209245&id=37
1950s
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1440231814&id=37
1970s
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-141927584&id=37
Track speeder
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=1093544610&id=27
Buick & Ford Pick-up
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=1703924238&id=43
South
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=757000033&id=43
Grain Elevator
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1737640195&id=43
Port
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1159602773&id=39
Pindar
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/marine/index_view.cfm?photoid=772529726&id=99
Aerobee
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/aviation/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1023531779&id=16
Radio Station
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/comm_comp/index_view.cfm?photoid=1332609374&id=92
Barracks
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=954726570&id=134
Fort
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=1322250743&id=46
Cannon
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=-816018324&id=27
Hudson's Bay Company
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=-2067956817&id=27
Sled
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=1019833620&id=44
Dwellings
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1693755523&id=44
Boats
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/marine/index_view.cfm?photoid=1020082824&id=97
A doggie
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=-2011941280&id=27

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=1974473275&id=27
Kids
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=47583450&id=30

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/people/index_view.cfm?photoid=584712504&id=27

The other Churchill close to my roots, Prince Edward Island
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/scenic/index_view.cfm?photoid=1303665738&id=44

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=781438883&id=58

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=-2012935688&id=55

http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/marine/index_view.cfm?photoid=56120571&id=114
Mike

[West Coast S]

Ok Tom, enough with the nuclear, think we have flogged that one to death, final thought, the Russians did test fly a protoype nuclear powered bomber...

Let's explores some good old SP, though the attendees be sparse of late..

During the seventies, SP saw it's fortunes ebb and flow, no longer the dominate player it once was, losses to trucks and rival railroads in conjunction with poor management decisions almost led them to bankruptcy. The stunning rejection by the ICC of the proposed Santa Fe merger made it imparative that they merge or die. In 1985 Rio Grande Industries aquired the Southern Pacific, it was a perfect marriage, Rio Grande had a direct route to Pacific ports for coal traffic, SP aquired routes beyond Utah for the lumber trade which was awaking from a long slumber.

Disenchament over at the Union Pacifc as to run through agreements and the joint ownership of the Pacific Fruit Express led to a seperation between these two long time friendly rivals. SP retained half the reefer fleet, renaming it the Southern Pacific Fruit Express, the timing was right on, traffic congestion and polution caused shippers to seek rail transportation once more, this business was not fully exploited due to the decision to remove many perishable freight feeder branch lines in the 60's and 70's, never the less the Salad Bowl resumed operations.

Over on the Sunset route, Intermodal was a prize beyond compare and it was pursued vigirously when fleets of GP60's and B23's newly delivered for the task.

SP was caught off guard by the sudden onslaught, the Rio Grande provided the clout to purchase over 400 SD70AC's and MK400's and every available lease unit it could lay it's hands on, a significient portion of the Cotton Belt GP60 fleet roamed system wide, until SP's order for 325 were delivered. The deadlines of the Rio Grande and Southern Pacific were scoured for available power, all locomotive retirements were suspended and thus the condition of some lead to the period of the great unwashed, physical appearance mattered not and some truly scruffy examples could be found in all manner of decay..

When the SF/BN merger was made public, SP was in a better position to exploit the many oppertunities of a evolving industrie. SP/RG could not survive against such a power house merger, despite a rebound in earnings, traffic and new locomotive purchases. Union Pacifc extended the olive branch, hoping against rejection, seems they too were concearned with the formible foe.

As a package, UP suggested a three way merger to include the Southern Pacifc/Rio Grande and Chicago Northwestern into a single transaction, the STB agreed, against bitter BN/SF opposition, In September 1997 these legandary roads ofically ceased to exist, now but a cog in the vast Union Pacific system.

Dave

[West Coast S]

Tom, drat!! Boris in the kitchen? Katy bar the door!!! Just the thought of Boris with sharp objects and access to fire is beyond my comprehension.. Fish 'n Chips it shall be....The house draft is of particular good vintage tonight I must say, ice cold with a good head and a nutty after taste..Well done....

I knew a girl from Manitoba once who's last name was Churchill, odd now that I recall, her father threatened bodily harm if I laid a hand or had Unpure thoughts of his precious jewel, kinda killed any thoughts of future bliss for this young lad!!!


From my senseless diatribe you can surmise I have a few unoccupied moments this afternoon and many random thoughts of utter uselessness...Speaking of Blahs filled up for $3.45 a gallon, down from $3.56 two weeks ago.

Tom, too technical, a man of your stature must have been number one in his class in nuclear physics during your tenure at MIT...
Too technical indeed, can you fathom how the railroads would have had to maintain a nuclear locomotive, the regulatory inspections into safe vessel operation, radiation exposure levels and containment would have been an unbelievable burden and cost issue. Imagine a critical failure, such as a scram, water leg failure, we won't even discuss loss of reactor cooling upon the local community in which said equiptment would operate? Perhaps it is best that the technology was not applied for railway use...


Enough already,

Until later

Dave

[siberianmo]

G"day!

Good to see ya Lars - don't be concerned, we all have the "blahs" from time to time. Happens! <grin> Perhaps the absence of sun shine and lots of rain has contributed to the malaise . . . I remember spending 7 weeks in Seattle back in 1960, and didn't see the sunshine ONCE - not once during a Jan-Feb span. If it hadn't been for a lovely lady who decided that I was her "pick of the ltter" - it would have been an awful time! [swg]

Just say the word, and I'll board that train with you any time, any place! [tup] Ya know, I'm still thinking a trip up to Churchill, Manitoba aboard VIA Rail would be a great time for the boyz. I'm just about at the point where I may go it alone - don't want too many more years to pass before I realize that it's totally out of my grasp to do.

How should I put this, without alienating our Left Coast Super Sleuth [?] Sir Dave! We have been featuring Thursday as "Fish 'n Chips Nite!" since Moby *** was a minnow. Steaks are Friday 'n Saturday . . . Plus, we no longer have a Chief Chef so one takes a gamble with Boris in the kitchen! [swg] Nice gesture, though . . . . and also, we only have food evening food service Thursday thru Satuirday - kinda the way it's been since we first opened the joint, way back when.

Now - to the more substantative stuff - good to have your thoughts on this 'n that - just a bit more technical for me than my aging grey matter can handle. Perhaps you'll get a "taker" later on.

Have one on ME! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[West Coast S]

Top of the day Tom, Round of house draught with a flank steak, medium rare, and all the usual trimmings, heck a plate for all who frequent here this afternoon.

Howdy Love Domes, glad you found the Turbo info informative, let's go to the next level, a proposed Turbine powered by a nuclear reactor, indeed, GE and the Atomic Energy Commision explored such a concept, it would have been a massive machine and the technological challenges would have been enormous and costly for a indvidule railroad to develope on it's own. A complete set of blueprints were produced and a full size mockup of the reactor and shielding compartment constructed to test the practacality of developing a compact reactor similar to the design the Navy was employing on the first Atomic Subs.. Although testing proved the concept of a reactor on rails feasible, the enormous weight proved impossible to overcome, second, the all powerfull Admiral Rickover of the AEC killed all support and would not endorse any project that distracted his department from the singular goal of fully developing a nuclear Navy..

Rob, we can do obscure..

The Pittsburg and Antioch was a five mile standard guage line built to serve the Clayton Coal mine, constructed in 1885, it served as a conveyor belt for transporting coal fromt the mine face to a tidewater tipple for transfer to ocean bound colliers. Built from the cheapest of construction materials and techniques and wholly owned by Black Diamond Minning, earning a profit was not a concearn. Power would be borrowed from the SP or SF with no particular favorite, a fleet of homemade coal gondolas rounded out the fleet. As the upper San Pablo Bay was improved by the Army Corp Of Engineers, it was far cheaper to ship raw coal in for the massive steel works then depend on low yield local sources, by 1918 the tiny line was abandoned, a portion survived until recent times, having been retained by the Army at the long abandoned Camp Stoneman site. No trace remains and only a couple of photographs exist , aptly named Railroad Ave. in Pittsburg Ca., which was constructed adjacent to the right of way is the only reminder that once coal was the lifeblood of this community...


Ted, Can't forget that the C&O also put a steam Turbine into service, you'd love the movies I have of the N&W Jawn Henry along with the incredible A, Y's in action, if not for the SP, N&W would be close second for sheer appeal and raw example of American industrial might.


Until later

Dave

[LoveDomes]

Hey Gents!

My Post Script - Here's where my mind is today!


California Zephyr - Post 1960 obs dome lower level lounge
(from: www.calzephyr.railfan.net - Public Domain)



Now, THAT's much bettAH!


Until the next time! [tup]


Lars

[LoveDomes]

Greetings Cap'n Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

Didn't think I'd make it in today - been THAT kinda day around my digs - "stuff" happening.

How about a cold frosty bottle of Schaefer and a pound of those pretzels and nuts you've got sitting at the other end of the bar! [swg] Here's a couple of ten spots for whenever a crowd develops and you'd llke to provide a round on me! [tup]

I'm not very talkative today - but I have taken in the posts since my last visit. Amazing how the diversity continues on - so much info and really so little time to digest it all (for some of us, that is). I think the best approach to taking full advantage of all the great material on this thread is to create some discs and download the special stuff onto them. Shouldn't be all that hard to do . . . Then one day, who knows how much one could "get" from the people who frequent places like eBay and the like. [swg] Just kidding - really wouldn't mind creating some disc archives - just may look into it.

So, we're going to be without our "Canadian connection" for a bit, huh [?] Been there, done that and we've made it. Hope you have an enjoyable and restful time of it. [tup]

Appears as if my "bookend" is away for awhile too. Well, he said that would be the case - so perhaps we'll get a "Mountain Report" tomorrow. [tup]

My Mets took in on the chin from the BoSox and Pedro looked awful too. Last time I checked they had a 12 game lead - so a couple of losses here and there surely won't hurt . . . Don't know what it is about Boston and New York when it comes to baseball, but there is a deep seated, outright dislike for one another - whether it be NL or AL. I don't recall the old Boston Braves having such a "thing," perhaps it's just the way our society has evolved (or is it, devolved [?]).

Picked up on your comments regarding China, oil and Iran. The people with blinders on are going to be in for a rude awakening once they start to really flex their muscles. I'm one who thinks we haven't seen the beginning of tough times yet.

Hey Tom I enjoyed all the stuff provided on those Lionel trains and the "real" turbine S2 from the day before! [tup] The conversation that ensued from Dave shed a bit of insight into the use of those turbines as well.

We've been truly fortunate that the basement situation is holding tight. For one more episode like the one of a few months ago, and we'd be outta here. Just about fed up with a few things going on, so it wouldn't take a lot in my present mindset. [tdn]

The description Rob provided about the preparation of the "Fish 'n Chips" darned near made me gag! How did those two creatures of Rob's imagination wind up in the kitchen [?] Speaking of all of that - seems that a reorganization of sorts needs to take place since the joint no longer has a Chief Chief or a Manager. I'll throw my hat in the ring for the latter, if one is needed, that is. However, let's get those "H&H" lovelies packing! [swg]


Ok - enough jabber out of me. One more brew and I'm heading back down the road . . . .


Until the next time!

Lars

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

Some activity this morning and especially good to see in light of CM3 Shane's absence . . . . [tup]

Been playing catch up with my archives - trying to get that "leg up" for weeks to come. Only way to ensure that there is original material to Post. ENCOREs! have their place and play a role, however, always good to interject some fresh "stuff"! [tup]

Hey Ted I'm the guy who has provided all of the PRR S2 turbine Posts these past 2 days! [yeah] I know, we all "look alike" eh [?] [swg] Happens when one is as "old as dirt," so I'm told. <grin> Anyway, nice job with the acknowledgments! [tup]

An interesting bit of conversation from Al regarding collecting and collectibles. I really, really have to get serious about "lightening the load" once again. Far too much crap being kept for the sake of keeping it. I have boxes of model RR brochures, flyers and the like from back to the mid-60s that just must go. And, NOPE, I'm not interested in pushing them on eBay - had a sorry experience with those people once (I discussed it a couple of times on these pages) and just don't like the way things unfold with that outfit.

Anyway, with a life of being part-Gypsy, I've developed some habits that have indeed kept the excess material to a minimum. However, now that I'm retired - here we go again. It's easy to do, eh [?] I have a friend and neighbor who probably will have a coronary when he sees this stuff sitting curbside for the trash people. Maybe I should get him to pencil me in for some of his "stuff"! <grin>

Have a great get away, Rob! We'll be here upon your return . . . . [tup]

Don't even want to talk about Petrol prices - just heard over the air waves that oil is over $72 (US) per barrel - isn't this ridiculous and darnright infuriating [?] I mean there are places in this world where entire economies are on the brink because of this. Further, I understand that certain countries - China being in the lead - are paying far less per barrel than the "OPEC hostage states" - supposedly have a sweetheart deal with their newfound friends in Iran. Oh joy. So what does all of this have to do with trains [?] We'd be far better off riding in them than in automobiles! Too bad our leaders cannot understand that . . . <groan> <double groan>

Okay Gents, I'll be here for the remainder of the day . . . .

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Well since this will be my last post for about 5 days, I will leave you all with another small,now gone and forgotten steam railway from Northern Ontario.

CLASSIC STEAM # 30 The Nip & Tuck or The Bruce Mines & Algoma RY

For many people that live in Northern Ontario, the dependancy on a railway for travel and resupply is not that far distant of a memory. In fact the Algoma central and the Ontario Northland still cater to toens that othetrwise are only accessable by float plane.Somw rail lines , however are so far back in the shroud of time that they can only be remembered by very few local residents, as is the cas e with the Nip and Tuck.


The Nip and Tuck, or The Bruce Mines and Algoma Railway

The Nip and Tuck ( not the original name ) but the nickname given to it by the locals, who saw this little line running through barren rocky land ,with little hope of any kind of ecconomic survival.The line actually was called several names officially. The first was in 1898 when it was called the Bruce and Copper Mines RR. This company operated a large stamp mill and coal dock in the town of Bruce Mines,whish were conected ( town and the mill ) by a mile of railway.A year later, another copper mine openned, this one on the shores of Rock Lake about 15 miles north of Bruce Mines.Here there was a large mill, a station, and a small townsite, all located about 2 miles from the mine.To ship out the mineral,the company incorporated a railway and named it the Bruce Mines & Algoma Railway. The Southern terminus was two miles north of Bruce Mines on the CPR's Algoma Branch, a route which had been put through from Sudbury to Sault Ste Marie about 15 years before.

But a terminus that haulted such a short distance shy of the lake made little sence,so in 1903, the BMA was extended to the shore where it established a jct with the BCM. With two large mines on it's route the success of the BMA seemed assured.But that would not be the case. the Bruce Copper Mines (BCM) shipped little by rail, and in 1903 the Rock lake mine closed. This left the BMA to haul a few farm and forestry products south, and coal from it's coal dock to the CPR.

By 1904 it had lost over $5000. But closing the line wasn't in the cards at least not yet.In 1904 the BMA got the unimaginable: permission to build north,not just to connections with the transcontinental routes of the CPR and Canadian Northern,and to the not yet finished ( as yet to be built )National Continental but north to James Bay itself !

Although some surveying was done, the lines two engines collided head on, killing one crew and with it the expansion plans.From 1905-1912, it was officially listed as an inactive railway, but not yet abandonned.Then, unexpectadly, things began to look up. Near the town of Bruce Mines a new rock quarry openned up. the only access to was along the old BCM, which happily the BMA owned.

Full of hope, they purcahsed three new locomotives and gave itself another new name, the Lake Huron and Northern Ontario Railway. Shortkly afterward another large customer came on board, the Mond Nickle Co which owned a smelter at Victoria Mines, far to teh east of Bruce Mines.Mond wasn't interested in thier copper though but the more common qaurtz of the quarry as it was used for furnace flux.Soon the trains were rolling back upto Rock lake, although theb road bead was uneven, and the bridges were rickety to the point that the train crews would not stay onboard while the engines crossed the bridge. Instead the fireman would cross the bridge ahead of the train and climb back on bopard and stop it once the engine was accross. He would then wait for the engineer to come accross on foot and rejoin him.

It was a sign of things to come. Profits did not materialize as hopped and in 1917 amounted to a mere $1600.To pay off the mortgage however, the proffits needed to be $35,000.In 1921, when the Mond mine closed and Victoria Mines became a ghost town, the Nip and Tuck closed down as well.Rail remained in place until the 1930's, afetr which the ROW was sold off to the adjacent land owners.


Rob

[trolleyboy]

A qiick good morning folks. Tom I'll leave a sacl o cash beside the bathtub to fund some rounds while I'm away.But for now I think a number three and a thermos of the coffee.

Al Thank-you sir my wife no longer slaps me when I look at a perspective new book for my collection ( I'm only at 244 ) so i figure that now she has no basis for complaint as I'm not even close to 300 yet LOL. I'm amazed that you have only had one incident of duplicating I've done it twice [:(]Now wioth me about half the collection is train related or traction related and the other half his maritime / naval / and military history.

ted thanks for the happy returns for Canada day. The same right back atcha for the 4th of July. Just remember aim the fireworks away from anything important ( your layout ) [swg]

Tom I imaginre that the fuel prices are do to climb around here over the weekend as well ( but no, there is no price fixing. [;)][:-^] ) .

Rob

[Anonymous]

Well, first of all an apology for the "time warp" yesterday.[:O] As most of my Puter time is work material one day in advance; I took my own pre-dated text "for real." Dum-de-dum-dum (Dragnet Theme circa 1950's T.V. series). Tom, that Cinnamon Sticky Claw looks to good to pass up, thanks for the Juan Valdez too.[^] Wow, a good out pouring of data and pix on the steam generated ilk of power on several Road's. In Today's world of computer generated hi tech models, i.e. scenarios, projections, etc.; we may wonder how such hypothetical experiments could get past the "drawing board" stages.[banghead] Especially, when you consider the huge cash investments and the length of time involved; we may wonder...why? Well, "the best made plans of mice and men" rule applies when engineering is still limited to the slide rule, calculators and drafting boards. It is to the credit, rather than shame, that the innovative management of these Lines took the initiative they did.[2c] Hey, look what exquisite detail resulted for added interest to the otherwise austere lines of the modern diesel.[swg] Seriously, when that period of bold "risk taking" ended in the U.S. rail industry, so did the "industry."[xx(] Rob, a salute to you and best thoughts for "Canada Day." Enjoy! Doug, fine entries on the Lionel S2 and capturing treasured memories of that era.[tup] Are you sure that is a cattle barn? Hi Pete, so good to have you 'round the premieis again. The Bathams inventory will now return to proper levels.[:D] Looking ahead to see your pix from abroad with baited breath. A friend of mine will be taking the same excursion train you did this coming September. I'll go into more detail later.

So what is Theo doing here this late in the morning? It is mana from heaven when things at the "head shed" go awry. Chalk it up to a "goody, goody for me!"[^] Hey Lars, glad to hear there is no need for a "thumb in the dike."[tup] Maybe decent help is still "out there" after all. Good "shot" of the Lionel Hudson for the ocassion..."Ah yes, I remember it well"[:D] Mike, I echo Tom's observance of a "job well done" on the 1948 roster of the street car, cable car, freight and interurban service remaing in the continental U.S.[^] This is definetly a "keeper" for my traction files. Incidently, your fortitude for signing in on e-bay shows a lot more "pluck" than I can muster.[:D] Also Tom, that is one heck of a web site for further study on steam generated power, many thanks. Yeah Dave, U.P. heard from is always a treat hereabouts; definitely the West Coast's counterpart to the Pennsy and N. & W. R.R.'s forward thinking and planing. That is in spite of U.P.'s somewhat tarnished reputation among R.R. Buffs of today's harsh critics. Al, $13 million is a mere pittance for anything like a serious prospectus for high speed rail. It sounds more like placating the "nuisance factor" of future nagging public transport realities for the region.[2c] Eric, if you know of a URL inre: Stockholm area electric street transportation, could you post it some time in the future? Okay Boris, all is forgiven let's let bygongs be bygongs.[}:)] Happy rails all.

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang Time for a cup of coffee and the usual crumpet from the Mentor Village Bakery.

Interesting posts on some of the trains from old, especially the prices. That is why I collect RR books ,dont have the room for electric trains so collect books. Looking at prices of RR books that are long out of print it is no wonder that this is one of the more expensive parts of our hobby.

Personally having over ten thousand books and periodicals in my collection surprises even me sometimes. I have just about entered the collection on computer disc for insurance purposes and keeping track. I have ordered more than one copy of a book on at least three occasions. Was at a RR show several years ago and bought three identical books at a ridiculous price and put them in my collection. Recently kept the best copy and sold the other two for thrice what I paid for all three. Found out long ago that just because it is old does not make it collectible. Of course my personal interest is passenger trains and the cars and probably have an excellent collection on that subject. Over the years I had collected a number of other railroad books and sold them off last year. Many were collectible and I was satisfied with the price I got for them. Gave me more room for books I really want to collect.
Also RR Videos and newer DVDs are collectble as well. Mine are only related to passenger trains or RR history and are for my personal enjoyment for now.
The important thing is in this day and age insurance is very important to cover whatever we collect. No I am not an insurance man but collections need to be covered and are not always covered under your household policy so a rider is necessary.

TTFN Al

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

As the end of the week arrives, so have the high temps – we’re heading back to the 90s (F) today – higher for tomorrow and the weekend. <ugh> Already mentioned the prices up at “Collusion Corner” - $2.88 (rounded) and my guess is it will rise to meet the “expectations” for holiday travel. [tdn]


Cards win! Cards win! Cards win! The 8-game losing streak is O-V-E-R as the Indians of Cleveland handed a victory to the home team, after having a near-victory handed to them! The 5-4 victory in the bottom of the 9th was one of those games that apparently no one really wanted to win. U-G-L-Y comes to mind. [tdn] However, a win is a win and they now sit out the day for a most needed respite from the wars of baseball.


For whatever the reason, couldn’t get that URL to load of the “babes’ from Sweden. Being your basic old fashioned guy – I’ll stick to my imagination! [swg] Belated THANX to Eric.


If I had the money of Royalty, I’d buy up all of those great looking trains shown in the catalog ads provided by Doug. Then, I’d hunt down the trains of my youth in order to recreate what once was. Of course I’d have to purchase the neighbor’s property – knock out a basement wall – expand the Can-Am Trainroom, etc., etc. If only one could have the money of Royalty. <grin>


A most comprehensive list of electric railways provided by Mike – well worth saving. [tup]


Appreciate the Email responses from all who are interested in the 2007 Second Annual “Our” Place Classic Trains Rendezvous in St. Louis!
At this stage of the planning, the next update should come along in about a month. Keep thinking, guys – the input really will be of benefit to all. [tup] REMINDER: Anyone out there interested in attending our Rendezvous and joining in on the planning for it needs only to notify me by Email to get on “the list!” [tup]


Nothing like have something to look forward to, eh Doug [?] 4-day weekends are “keepers” fer sure, fer sure! [tup] A box a model trains [?] Can’t leave us hanging with just that – need more descriptions, condition, Pix [yeah]! [swg]



That’s it for now. I’ll be behind the bar for the day! So, whatillyahave [?]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and gents. I'll be needing two light breakfasts today, thanks. Just two more days at work, and then I think I don't have to work (at work) until Wednesday. Hard to know for sure, because the maintenance guys are working on the water system that keeps our machines cool, which is work that would normally shut us down. This has to be done by opening time Wednesday, without fail.

I never mentioned it, but among the items we found at this farmhouse, was a box of train models. I haven't had the chance to really take a look, but there's definitely a B&O HO scale steam engine in there. I doubt there's much to really get excited about, but free is good, no matter what!

Ya'll have a great day. I have relatives, including my parents, in town, and there's a get-together tonight before most of them head for the big family reunion in Rochester Indiana, 'Round Barn Capital of the World." Here's a little picture of ours:

[siberianmo]

We open at 6 AM.
(All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Thursday and we’re nearing week’s end! C’mon in – enjoy a cuppa freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee – a <light or <traditional breakfast from the Menu Board and one or two pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!



Daily Wisdom


I’m so hungry right now I can’t even look at food.
ENCORE! Yogi-ism



Info for the Day:


* Weekly Calendar:


TODAY: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday



MVP Award Winners

April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars
May – June . . To be announced


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Comedy Corner

SIGNS YOU HAVE GROWN UP!

1. You no longer take naps from noon to 6 PM!

2. Dinner and a movie is the whole date instead of the beginning of one.

3. Eating a basket of chicken wings at 3 AM would severely upset, rather than settle, your stomach.

4. If you're a gal, you go to the drug store for ibuprofen and antacid, not condoms and pregnancy tests.

5. A $4.00 bottle of wine is no longer "pretty good stuff."


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre
Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

NOW SHOWING:

. . . Sunday, June 25th thru July 1st: Blazing Saddles (1974) starring: Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little & Slim Pickins – and – Fierce Creatures (1997) starring: John Cleese, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kevin Kline & Michael Palin. SHORT: Ants in the Pantry (1936).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, July 2nd thru 8th: 1776 (1972): starring: William Daniels & Howard Da Silva – and – The Patriot (2000) starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger & Joely Richardson. SHORT: Movie Maniacs (1936).



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) EricX2000 Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 00:30:05 (365) Early, early AM or Late Nite Inclusive Post!

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 05:08:03 (365) Comments ‘n Taxes and a Silk Train & Joke!

(3) barndad Doug Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 05:49:42 (365) Lionel for Toy ‘n Model RR Day & funny!

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 06:45:59 (365) Bearman’s Inclusive Gulf Coast Report!

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006 , 07:05:45 (365) Wednesday’s Info & 15-Post Summary

(6) passengerfan Al Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 07:54:24 (365) for Eric – PRR streamlined car info

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 09:03:59 (365) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 12:27:37 (365) Lionel’s PRR S2 steam turbine 6-8-6

(9) West Coast S Dave Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 12:36:51 (365) Left Coast mid-week visit ‘n UP Turbo info

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 13:35:18 (365) for Dave w/2 UP Turbo Pix!

(11) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 15:23:08 (365) Island Report ‘n Lionel Pix!

(12) wanswheel Mike Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 16:08:11 (366) Street Railway and Interurban Listing & Car Barn comments

(13) West Coast S Dave Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 16:16:11 (366) UP turbines, etc.

(14) pwolfe Pete Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 16:34:31 (366) Catching up

(15) passengerfan Al Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 16:57:48 (366) Left Coast transportation info

(16) barndad Doug Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 17:39:41 (366) Lionel Ad collage ‘n Joke!

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 19:31:19 (366) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(18) barndad Doug Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 20:36:49 (366) Chat ‘n URL

(19) siberianmo Tom Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 20:47:07 (366) for Doug

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 28 Jun 2006, 23:15:14 (366) Count Robulla’s Nite Cap!




That’s it![tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon, a crown for me this evening if you please, oh and here's another 20 in case a round is needed later on this evening.Quite the day here at the ole watering hole I must say,good to see so amny of the regulars and the irregulars if you look at Boris stop by.

doug Loved the silk train article. Those silk trains on the CPR were the train if you wanted to tweek the nose of the CPR that was the train to target. Interesting that likely the town had the last laugh anyway, both were almalgamted into the city of Thunderbay and continue to get service from 3 Railways including the CPR. Van Horne's likly rolling over becaus eof that one. Is it me or are the prices of Lionel just a tad on the insane side[:O] i just don;t see te reason as to why there is such a price disparity, espeacially with everything being made overseas now. [tdn]

Eric Thanks for that url link [tup][swg] nice to see what good clean country air can do for the young of today eh [?][:-^]two yeasr as a strreetcar conductor likley gives you a tall tale or two to share.Nice to hear that such an extensvie light rail system is being concidered for the Phoenix area. I would think though that the old burried rail will be not usable. The yeasr of temp changes and the weight of the blacktop anf the traffic above will likely have flattened out it's profile.I remeber that CN basicalyy did the same thing with the vast majority of the NS&T's city trackage once it was abandoned permanenetly. I can remember watching a constructuion crew two years ago in St catharines removing the 85lb trolley girder rail from St Paul Street finally after 50 yeasr of it being blacktopped over. The local hobby shop bought a couple hundred feet of it and cut it into 6" door stops, sold them for $20 bucks a pop. Now that's recycling.

Mike Great list compilation there sir.that's likely the last year 1948 that NA could bost that many interurban and street railway operations still running at least some sort of schedule. By the mid 50's I would have to say that 80-90% of those roads were gone, or in their last gasps of running under the wires. lots of familiar names in that list, both cities and railway companies. It really puts it all into perspective. thanks for sharing that. [tup]

Lars Yup you heard right. Once works done for both of us tomorrow we are heading northward for 4 days or so. I'm sure that you guys wil keep the ole homefires burning. No Boris. Moron he sprayed me with the extinguisher. Bad Boris [alien] back to your shed you foul creature.BTW have a great independance day as well. Remember keep the fireworks away from teh Mentor Viliages Zepplin sheds. [:O][xx(]

Dave and Tom Nice exchange of ideas on the turbine power from the days of yore on the UP. One has to wonder ... why [?] One things certain if it wasn't for UP's quest for the big power for Sherman Hill Overland would have nothing to make expensive brass models off LOL ( my bit of model railroad stuff today )

Tom Thanks for that photo url. That gentleman has quite the collection of railshots. that's definatly a bookmarker for future reference and use.

Pete H&H have taken over the fish frying duties. So the beer batter is of a more bavarian flavour now.The downside to this is that the traditional sides of mushy peas, has been replaced by various kinds of saurkraut.Takes some getting use too, that and the lederhosen the girls wear while,they are cooking ( there ought to be a law ) glaad to see that you are slowley catching upto the pack. there has been quite alot of good info these last few weeks. Which is of coarse why we keep on comming back to this here best little part of te Kalmbach forums.


Rob

[siberianmo]

Hello Doug

That's an interesting Hudson on the URL you provided - a 2-rail version in OO-gauge at that. I'm not a fan of eBay or any other online auction house. No thanx. However, they are probably the only source remaining for someone like me to recreate the trains of my childhood . . .

Petrol up at "collusion corner" rose to $2.88 rounded when I filled up the wagon this AM. As I said earlier - drops a couple of cents, rises a couple of dimes - go figger . . . [tdn] $3.10 sounds like some "planning" for the 4th of July get-aways . . . and "they" tell us things like this don't happen - yeah, right! [tdn]

Appreciate the quarters! [tup]

Don't want to jump the gun, but the Cards are up 3 to 1 in the 6th as they try to end the longest losing streak (8 games) since 1988. Cleveland has some decent pitching and looks like they could easily be in it if not for the success of the Tigers - and it's a "given" that the ChiSox will go down to the wire.

Catch ya in the AM!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good evening again Tom and gents! Did my beer stay cold and bubbly? Well, it really doesn't matter. I'll just quickly drain it and order another! I brought some Michigan quarters for Her Wurlitzer.

Looks like the main subject turned out to be related to turbine power. I peeked at E-Bay, and they have one like Tom's available for only $600! Lars' Hudson is holding at about $227, which is actually kind of tempting! Take a look! http://cgi.ebay.com/Lionel-Prewar-003-2-Rail-OO-Scale-Hudson-5342-Box_W0QQitemZ120000475742QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4978QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Nice article on the coal fired turbine Dave, and it looks like Mike's been taking some typing lessons with his railway closings post.

I hate to tell you guys this because it's so painful, but the cheap gas places out here want $3.10 tonight! Guess I'll be riding my bike just about all the time if this keeps up! At least prices have been holding steady at Our Place .....right Tom?

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Quite an interesting day at the tavern by the tracks - good stuff all around from Lars - Mike - Dave - Pete - Al and Doug - appreciate the business - KaChing - kaching! [swg]

Something quite different from our resident URLMeisterMonsterMike - NO URLs! For the traction and electric fans out there - be sure to make a copy of the articles provided by wanswheel Mike! Enjoyed the final comment - a penney simply isn't worth a dime these days! [swg] (That's NOT from "Yogi" - it's mine!)

Appreciate having you aboard for your customary afternoon time slot, Lars. Appears that things are getting back to normal 'round the place with you resuming your spot at the bar. [tup] Perhaps you may wi***o consider getting rid of the "foo foo" you are using, Tex has developed an allergic reaction to it! <grin>

NICE Lionel Hudson! [tup] One of my favorites as well . . . I had the S2 steam turbine (as most already know!).

Dave I think your take on the S2 may be just one factor - the primary one, as documented in my Posts - had more to do with gross inefficiency at slow speeds. Anyway, an interesting subject and some good stuff regarding those UP turbines. [tup]

Pete's back! We'll fry up a batch of fish for ya - even though Wednesday's the kitchen is closed! [swg] No sweat - just let Boris know when you're ready . . .

Al At least there's forward momentum out your way for the future of mass transportation . . . that speaks highly of those who make things happen. [tup]

Nice collage of Lionel ads, Doug! Took a bit of time to load - and that surprised me - but I'm seeing more 'n more of that lately. Anyway, thanx for the great input for our Toy 'n Model RR Day! [tup]

REMINDER:
Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]