"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[siberianmo]

G'day (again!)

Here are a few Pix from today's "theme" on "my other Thread" . . .

Wabash obs dome #1601
(from: Wabash Historical Society - foto credit: unknown)



Wabash Bluebird
(from: Wabash Historical Society - foto credit: Wabash RR photos)



Wabash 1887 time table



G'nite!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day!

A fine spate of URLs from our resident URLMeisterMonsterMike! [tup] [tup] [tup] Anytime you select the Pennsy I'm most pleased! <grin>

I recall taking an upper level (graduate) course in Sociology called "Social Change." Without boring anyone to tears, the meaning of the word - change - was brought home in more than just a few ways. As with the changing of the tides, change is all about and as with the changing shoreline, change represents - well, change! [swg] There are times we all wish for things to remain static - but things just don't seem to work out that way, eh [?]

Whatever is in store for us next week, upon the return of the Forums, my take is that those changes will be moreso along the lines of modernization of the system employed by Kalmbach rather than anything annoying to those of us who have frequented these pages. The loss of the stars most probably will upset some - but not any from the tavern by the tracks. We're far and away above all of that nonsense! [tup]

Your thoughts on Canada bring to mind a common thread - not much in our newspapers either - ever - about the land to the north. As a Canadian-American family we do take note of that and simply attribute it to the way we are as a people - centric comes to mind. Then again, we are the big kid on the block and our attitude for so long has been "my way or the highway." An institutional change I(that word again!) is in order.

I suspect this may be my last interactive Post before "shut down," so once again - I urge those of you to ensure that your Email address is current with the Forums. Otherwise, you will not be able to return on Wednesday or Thursday.

SUMMARIES will appear on Saturday 'n Sunday - but not much else from me (as mentioned earlier).

REMINDER:
Leon the Night Man takes the bar at 9 PM (Central)!


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[wanswheel]

Hi Tom and everyone, a round for the house

I don't like change and never equate change with improvement.
Everything in this world is temporary, get used to it, but don't get used to it.
Karl Malden's voice is in my ear, "What if the new forums platform does not enable urls, what will you do, what will you do?" (He's still alive in his 90s, good for him.)

Rob, Canadian politics from down here, it's seldom in the paper and almost never gets on TV (not since General DeGaulle was in Quebec). That's good, really, it means Canada keeps it together, resolves its differences within without a civil war. Unlike the U.S., Northern Ireland, Lebanon, Bosnia, etc. A stable country next door is the ideal neighbor. Speaking of the flag and the NHL of old, just 6 teams once, 4 in the U.S., English Canada's Maple Leafs and the French Canadians' Canadiens. Great national anthem, beautiful in each language is O Canada.

Pete, you are scrupulously thorough in your reading. Wild dumb guess, maybe the dome is for the whistle.

Ted, hope to see your next post before they turn the lights out in here.

Dave, one more, Mt. Shasta
http://content.lib.washington.edu/transportation/image/147.jpg

Doug, come on now, there's no train called The Baby Ruth, except in Candyland. I did get a chuckle out of it, but that's a whole 'nother 5-cent pack of dextrose. In reference to Lionel's wartime shortages is this 1944 ad for Burlington Route:
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T28/T2867-72dpi.jpeg

Tom, whatever happens next week, Our Place to this date has been a tremendous labor on your part for the benefit of the many. Thank you, sir. Now, after all the New York Central, we need a GG1or two.
PRR ad, NY-Philadelphia train
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T31/T3135-72dpi.jpeg
PRR ad, New Broadway 1948
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T24/T2477-72dpi.jpeg
PRR ad, 1952 B'way 50th anniversary
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T24/T2480-72dpi.jpeg
PRR ad, the engineer as a 'Santa Claus'
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T24/T2483-72dpi.jpeg
PRR ad, door opens so easy a child can do it.
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T24/T2482-72dpi.jpeg
PRR ad, 3 trains
http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/T/T31/T3106-72dpi.jpeg

Al, may I recommend a website about streamliners, etc. that I think you would enjoy reading? It's technically flawed in that the pages are wider than the computer screen, but easy enough to copy & paste the text to WordPad. Anyway it's something to read while the forums undergo metamorphis.
http://www.newenglandrailroad.com/page12.html
http://www.newenglandrailroad.com/page13.html
http://www.newenglandrailroad.com/page14.html
Mike

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Great seeing you this afternoon, Pete and always appreciate the business! Tilla 'n Cashinator are happiest when they make the "KaChing kaching" sounds! <grin>

There are some fine photos out there of passenger railroads literally racing side-by-side in attempts to beat the other company to the the same destinations. Happened quite a bit with the eastern roads (PRR & NYC comes to mind) and I'll yield to our resident left coast experts for similar match ups. I too enjoyed seeing those photos of the Canadian and Super Continental - just wi***hey were a bit larger in order to hone in on the details. [tup]

Appreciate your thoughts as well, BK and certainly hope for the best regarding the situation up there in western Canada. Fire isn't anything to leave to chance - if the opportunity presents itself for a safe getaway - take it!

I liked your "profound" statement - just about sums it up! <grin> [swg]

Thanx for the elaboration on the Pix, Pete - drove me crazy, and there it was, under my nose all along! <smile> Anyway, I can't be of help with it either . . . . best left to the guys who know than to guess.

Today is a rather somber day over in "Merry Olde" as it represents the one year marking of the tragic bombing in the London tubes. My hope is that those responsible for the deaths and injuries to the innocents are rotting and suffering indescribable misery for eternity. Ask me how I really feel! <grrrrrrr>

Norway is indeed a lovely place to visit. My one and only trip was back in 1971 - pulled into Oslo and had 3 days to do this 'n that . . . would love to revisit some day, and of course travel aboard some of those fine looking trains! [tup] Didn't do that back in '71 - too busy with other things and also was on a rather short string insofar as travel from the ship's location was concerned.

Can't explain very much regarding the manner in which "things" go on 'round these Forums. One would think that a message from the Kalmbach people would be viewed by the overwhelming majority. But you know what [?] My guess is many of the guys who frequent the Forums don't even pay attention to these things - they Post their stuff and leave. Just look at our own situation. How many times have we seen "our own" guy(s) Posting elsewhere - over 'n over - but not here [?] Just one of those things that is best left where it belongs - outside in the parking lot! [tdn] 'Nuf of that . . .

There's much out there regarding the Baby Ruth candy bar . . . . check out this URL for those with an interest:
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/19990913.html

Have one on me, Gents! Boris ring the bell . . . .

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Holdens Mild today as it is early and a bacon sandwich and a round for the house please.

DOUG Thanks for the Canadian post[tup] great pictures of the Canadian and theSuper Continental running parallel across the river. This used to happen in steam days with the trains running into Glasgow Scotland across the River Clyde with the crews on the ex North British line from Helensburgh and the ex Caledonian from Gournoch. The Clyde is wide at this point as it nears the sea.

Another racing ground was where the ex Midland line runs parallel with the East Coast Main Line for several miles north of Peterbourgh( about 80 miles north of London). An old steam loco driver who came to work at the same factory as I, told me that one trip he worked on the Midland was timed to leave Peterbourgh at the same time as a East Coast express. His loco was usually a class5 4-6-0 mixed traffic loco and the express one of the LNER A4 pacifics.
With a lighter load the class 5 would get away quicker than the A4 and they would wave a piece of string out of the cab window meaning did the A4 need a tow. Well the A4 would get into her stride and pass his loco not doubt accompanied with gestures from the expresse's crew [censored] no doubt.

I wonder if the Baby Ruth bar was on sale at the same time as the Babe Ruth bar[?].

ROB Many thanks for the Flag info. I must admit I had to smile, like Tom, at the beaver one.[:)]. Another good Classic Steam it is good to know that those stations were saved[^].

AL It is good to know that they are going to introduce a new passenger service if it is voted for. [tup].

BK. Real sorry to hear of the situation where you are and I hope there is some relief real soon.
I will certainly join you, if I may, in raising a tankard to TOM and Our Place.

TOM Thanks for the kind words[tup].
A serious situation with the bottles[V], perhaps they will have to have a deposit on the bottles like we had in England years ago, it used to be 3 old pennies.

Great post on the Norweigian State Railway.[tup][tup][tup] The pictures in the snow are great on a farely warm Missouri day. They must be hardy locos and units to work in those conditions. The Diesel Multipile Units look very stylish although I noticed they have only one set of doors per side in each car which I would have thought would cause delays at busy times.

The loco with the number on the dome was posted by wanswheel MIke on 01 JUL 2006 at 10:53.45 it is the second link with the title First Steam Loco Built In Canada.

I will save my pics as you suggest till next Sunday and a piece I will do on a trip I took while over England with a couple of pics till next week..

One thing I did notice on the forum that the notice from Kalmbach about the site being down as only had 56 views [%-)].

I'll try another Holdens and the bacon was great. PETE.

[BudKarr]

Good Morning Captain Tom and all assembled!

Everything smells like burning – smoke, smoke and more smoke, and none of it desired. Things here at the mountain retreat are somewhat tenuous as of late. The Province seems to be burning up as the multi-year drought continues in this beautiful slice of heaven on Earth.

We are engaged in some serious thinking regarding a move, and as difficult as the thought is for my lady, she initiated the discussion. We are at a point where our travel plans are being held in abeyance due to the uncertainty regarding the threat to our area. We would surely not want to be elsewhere should the situation worsen. Belongings and the like take second place to securing our personal safety, however, we would like to have the opportunity to save some of the material things within our home.

On the plus side, we are not in the path of anything ominous, however, everything is so very dry that it would not take much to begin an incineration.

Captain Tom, as it is morning, my lady and I will partake in two of your #3s from the Menu Board – bacon and coffee for me, sausage and tea for Lydia. Throw in two of those great looking blueberry turnovers from the Mentor Bakery if you please – thanks! [tup]


I have assessed the past week of activity and do not believe we are seeing the end, as perhaps our “steamed proprietor” may be thinking. Rather, it appears that we simply have several people caught up in their own activities – which is not really anything new – and perhaps having the bar & grill as a non-priority of things to do.

Yes, we have seen the numbers diminish and yes, we have witnessed a significant decrease in tangible contributions. Sorry, if this offends our friend with twenty fingers – but the ‘dump and run’ approach of pages long material is not what Tom had in mind when he created this site. I have gone back through my earlier submissions and have noted quite a change in direction here at the bar. Perhaps it would be far better to engage one another in dialogue rather than providing reams of reading material that may never be fully read through. A thought.

So, Gentlemen, I raise my tankard in toast to our Proprietor and the clientele who still hold true to the notion that this cyber bar & grill is indeed the finest that may be found in cyber space. Long live ”Our” Place and those who frequent it. Cheers! [tup]

I have sent my thoughts to my “bookend,” Lars and wish he and his family the best. Circumstances of death imminent are not easy to deal with. However, providing the loving care and consideration at this chapter of their loved one’s life is most commendable – most commendable indeed. [tup] Certainly hope to see your return as those before me have expressed.

There is a “coffee table book,” The Flags of Canada, by Alistair B. Fraser, that my lady brought out for me to peruse. In it one may find chapter and verse of the history and results of the debate regarding the change to Canada’s national flag.

While I too enjoyed Rob’s 9 beavers and frog reference – in all seriousness, many believed and still believe that a rather new nation, deserved a distinctly new flag. My family was clearly in that camp.

A quote from the book

QUOTE: In the battle for public opinion, Pearson took his campaign into the lions' den. In 1925, and again in 1945-46, the Orange Lodge had been the main force opposed to breaking the imperial link and losing the Union Flag. In 1964, the Royal Canadian Legion was the most vocal supporter of the status quo in the form of the Canadian Red Ensign. For months, every issue of their magazine, Legionary, had carried a picture of the ensign with the caption "This is Canada's Flag-Let's Keep it Flying." Prime Minister Pearson took his case to the 20th RCL Convention in Winnipeg on May 17. But, unlike King before him, Pearson was a veteran, having enlisted for service at the age of 17 during the First World War. The Prime Minister told a bemedaled and ensign-flying crowd at the convention that he meant no disrespect for the Union Flag, or the Canadian Red Ensign, but declared, "I believe most sincerely that it is time now for Canadians to unfurl a flag that is truly distinctive and truly national in character," to which the Legionnaires thundered "No! No!" There was an irony in the fact that the Legionnaires, who had recently replaced the Union Flag on their own badge with a maple leaf, rose to their feet, booed, and continued to yell "No!" after Pearson said: "I believe that today a flag designed around the maple leaf will symbolize and be a true reflection of the new Canada." But Pearson had sought a flag which would be "Canada's own and only Canada's" and the next day public reaction ran strongly in his favour.

Tom I enjoyed your Norewegian trains submission and it brought to mind some memories of travels past. While you all are aware of my rather noncommittal stance regarding rail travel, I have had experience aboard a few trains in Norway. Great countryside, warm people and interesting points of view.

In closing for this morning’s “reading from the Book of Karr, I leave you with this thought: Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

Time for a touch of the spirits, Captain Tom – just a splash in the coffee, if you please!

Hope to rejoin all of you once the forums resume operation. [tup]


BK in beautiful Alberta, Canada’s high mountain country!

[siberianmo]

RAILWAYS of EUROPE #7 – Norwegian State Railways, Norges Statsbaner (NSB)




Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some photos from other sources.


Norwegian State Railways, Norges Statsbaner (NSB)



Norges Statsbaner (Norwegian State Railways, commonly known as NSB) is a Norwegian transport company, created in its present form by the Norwegian National Rail Administration through legislation on December 1, 1996, but then privatized on July 1, 2002, owned privately by Norwegian Ministry of Transport and Communications.

Operations of NSB include passenger trains and buses. Cargo Net owns the freight train transport.


Rolling stock

During the 1990s NSB modernized their rolling stock, expanding their fleet of multiple units and retiring many of the traditional locomotive hauled trains. Most of the locomotives went to the freight company CargoNet AS, but the El18 and Di4 remain to pull passenger trains. Some of the new trains were plagued with troubles, in particular a brand new BM73 derailed (fortunately at low speed) at Nelaug in 2000 because of an axle breaking due to metal fatigue. As of 2005 however, these trains have been performing satisfactorily.

Locomotives

• 2 Di 2 class diesel shunters
• 6 Di 4 class diesel locomotives, used mostly on Nordlandsbanen.
• 3 El 17 class electric locomotives, now used for shunting. A further 6 El17s are run by Flåmsbana.
• 22 El 18 class electric locomotives, used on all main electrified lines.


NSB EI 18 #2254 (GNU Free Documentation)




Electric multiple units

• 80 BM69 class 2-car or 3-car commuter trains, used around Oslo, Bergen and Arendal.
• 16 BM70 class 4-car intercity (medium distance) trains, used around Oslo.
• 36 BM72 class 4-car commuter trains, used around Oslo and Stavanger.
• 16 BM73 class 4-car long-distance trains, used on Bergensbanen, Dovrebanen and Sørlandsbanen.
• 6 BM73b class 4-car intercity version of the BM73 used on Østfoldbanen.


NSB BM69 #69639 (GNU Free Documentation)




NSB BFM70 #70010 (GNU Free Documentation)




Diesel multiple units

• 15 BM92 class 2-car trains used for commuter services around Trondheim, and on Rørosbanen.
• 15 BM93 class 2-car trains used on long distance and intercity services on Rørosbanen, Nordlandsbanen and Raumabanen.


NSB DM93 (GNU Free Documentation)




NSB BM93 at Hamar (foto: Leif-Harald Ruud)




NSB BM93 at Åndalsnes (foto: Marco van Uden)




NSB BM93 at Hamar (foto: Marco van Uden)




NSB DM93 & Di8 at Åndalsnes (foto credit: unknown)




DSB Talent train (foto credit: unknown)



Diesel railcar

• 3 Y1 class railcar used on Bratsbergbanen between Skien and Notodden.


Used with permission from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Formatting differences made necessary due to Forums requirements. Some photos from other sources.

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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


Did you miss any of the first six in the series[?] Click on the URLs:

(1) British Rail, page 247
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=247&TOPIC_ID=35270

(2) Eurostar, page 248
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=248&TOPIC_ID=35270

(3) TGV of France, page 255
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=255&TOPIC_ID=35270

(4) ICE Train of Germany, page 270
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=270&TOPIC_ID=35270

(5) Irish Rail, page 279
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=279&TOPIC_ID=35270

(6) Swedish Railways, page 321
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=321&TOPIC_ID=35270



Waving Flags credit: www.3DFlags.com

[siberianmo]

Good Morning Gents!

Thought it best to remind one and all of Kalmbach's requirement to ensure an operating Email address exists for your account on the Forums. If not, they well NOT be able to communicate the info regarding how to log in on the NEW system. REMEMBER: Shutdown is to take place this coming Monday and last until sometime Wednesday. So count on three days "off."

Appreciate the Posts from Rob and Doug [tup] [tup]

We are still smiling at the mental image presented by Rob's discussion of the proposed design for the new Canadian flag - 9 Beavers peeing on a Frog - indeed!! [swg] A great laugh was had by my Canadian-born 'n bred bride and "meself!" For anyone not getting the significance - the 9 Beavers represented the 9 English speaking Provinces versus the 1 speaking French. Wonder why it wasn't accepted! <grin>

A bit early in the AM to be thinking "candy," but those Pix of the old time wrappers really brought back a memory or three. During WWII, my mom and grandpa owned and operated a small "corner store" - groceries and the like. It had one of those large glassed in candy cases, with all kinds of treats that made many a little kid's eyes "pop" and give rise to the "hope" that someone - anyone - would spring loose a penny or two for some candy. [yeah] Great memories.

Appreciate the words of support, Rob, but I'm afraid they have come a bit late in the game. I'm really, really rethinking the whole of it . . . .

I must have missed something, for I cannot locate that Pix Pete mentioned regarding a loco and a dome . . . .[?] [?] Well, Rob is "on it" and undoubtedly will come up with something. That's what's nice about having guys around here to give a Rat's Patoot - and it shows when someone actually reads the material, then responds in kind. [tup] Just not enough of that going on . . . . "winging it" doesn't work now, yesterday, or tomorrow.

After a night's sleep on the subject - I've decided to forgo any serious Pix Posting for Sunday. I'll provide the remainder of my Alaska Pix for the following Sunday Photo Posting Day!. All one has to do is review the past several Sundays and it should be quite evident who has Posted and participated. Not many - it is largely Doug 'n moi. So, aside from dropping off the Emporium Theatre info . . . I'm laying low . . . Saturday will be an "off day" for me as well, other than the Summary and perhaps an ENCORE! here 'n there - I'll be doing other things.

Received an Email from BK up in Alberta. Seems they are somewhat beset by the smoke from the fires raging throughout western Canada. No immediate threat, but he says the smoke is awful. They've got a few bags packed and ready to go - if necessary. He said there's only one road out of where they live - but again, no immediate threat. Send his regards to the guys and hopes to be with us once the Forums return to normal.

Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

We open at 6 AM.
(All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


FRIDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


It’s Friday! C’mon in – enjoy a cuppa freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee – a <light or <traditional breakfast from the Menu Board and one or two pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!


Check out this URL (a crisis in the making!): http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2006/07/05/steamwhistle-bottle.html


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Comedy Corner

Take any word, add – subtract or change one letter – provide a new definition and you get:


1. Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

2. Inoculatte : To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

3. Hipatitis : Terminal coolness.

4. Osteopornosis : A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.)

5. Karmageddon : It's like, when everybody is, like, sending off all these really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's, like, a serious bummer.

6. Decafalon (n): The grueling event of getting through the day consuming only things that are good for you.


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre


NOW SHOWING:
Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, July 2nd thru 8th: 1776 (1972): starring: William Daniels & Howard Da Silva – and – The Patriot (2000) starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger & Joely Richardson. SHORT: Movie Maniacs (1936).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, July 9th thru 15th: The Flight of the Phoenix (1965) starring: James Stewart, Richard Attenborough, Peter Finch – and – M*A*S*H (The Movie - 1970) starring: Donald Sutherland, Elliott Gould, Tom Skerritt. SHORT: Half-Shot Shooters (1936)



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 06:59:48 (371) Friday’s Info & 10-Post Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 07:17:33 (371) Comments

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 10:05:02 (371) Events in Canadian RR History – July

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 13:30:11 (371) Featured Locomotives #2 – EMD SD70 series

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 15:28:19 (371) Nostalgia #89 – British Railways ad (1953)

(6) pwolfe Pete Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 17:44:39 (371) Inclusive catch-up Post!

(7) West Coast S Dave Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 19:21:04 (371) Inclusive catch-up Post!

(8) barndad Doug Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 20:04:36 (371) Remembering The Canadian, etc.

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 20:48:17 (371) Acknowledgments ‘n Comments

(10) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 06 Jul 2006, 23:22:35 (371) Count Robulla’s Inclusive Post!



That’s it![tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for a coffee and one of the fine crumpets from the Mentor Village Bakery.

Sorry for my aabsence the last couple of days but the boss is away and I have to spend more time at the office. I have been on the other thread from the office using floppy disc info I have their.

Things will settle down next week.

Our County is putting a sales tax bill on the ballot in November that will provide Commuter rail service between Modesto , Stockton and Sacramento and increase our present Stockton - San Jose commuter Rail service. The sales tax increase will also widen some highways in the county.

TTFN Al

[Anonymous]

Good morning Tom and friends. I'll have a light breakfast and a Baby Ruth. Only got a second, so I'll have to read Rob's post later. Sure it's another good one.

And now, it's no wonder we're a bit overweight .. check outthis ad on the back of the July 1937 Model Builder magazine:



Active people use up lots of energy – energy which can only be replenished through the food they eat. That’s nature’s way of helping keep bodies healthy and strong … to keep minds alert and keen. Baby Ruth – the pure-food candy bar – supplies this needed energy in a form not only tempting and delicious, but quickly digestible as well.

As a pick-up, in between meals or after school, Baby Ruth is a wholesome, nutritious treat that satisfies. Each ingredient of Baby Ruth is a food in itself – fresh creamery butter, pure sweet milk; and Dextrose, the sugar you need for energy. These wholesome foods, blended together, make Baby Ruth the most delicious, tempting, nutritious candy bar you can eat.

Baby Ruth is now extra good because it’s extra rich in Dextrose, which doctors call “body” or “muscle” sugar. Since Dextrose needs no digestive action, it is promptly converted to energy – “fuel” for the body. It helps vanish fatigue. Your own doctor will tell you that every moment of your life – your body uses Dextrose. It is the most important form of food energy known to medical science.

Now, rich in Dextrose, Baby Ruth is not only pure delicious candy – it is real food, rich in the sparkling, quick energy everyone needs to be at his best. For energy … for enjoyment … make Baby Ruth a daily habit. It’s good to eat, and it’s good for you! It’s the taste-treat of millions the world over. Only a nickel, at candy counters everywhere.

[trolleyboy]

Okay Leon I think another Keith's is in order. I shall put a new classic steam up for purusal tonight for the fervent few that read this thread.

CLASSIC STEAM # 31 THE TH&B's WATERFORD SUBDIVISION

The originbal concept of the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Railway was to serve American Intrests by buildiong a link between Buffalo via Hamilton into Toronto.The line would start from a juntion point with the Michigan Central in Welland Ontario.from there it would run through Hamilton and onto Toronto via running rights on the GT at bayview jct in Burlingto Ontario ( known as Hamilton West by the CPR/TH&B ). This is a bit ironic as the TH&B was bult to break the GT's monopoly on traffic through Hamilton.Another branch of the TH&B would lead west of Hamilton, pass through Brantford, and conect back to the Michigan Central at Waterford Ontario, thus tapping the farm and industrial traffic of this area as well, also challenging the might of the GT in that part of the province.

No fewer than four existing railway companies had their fingers in the TH&B pie from the beginning. These were the New york Central,Michigan Central, The Canada Southern( both NYC subsidiaries ) and the Canadian Pacific, the CPR's chunk was 27% of the TH&B.Whereas the two American controlled companies the MC and the CASO, cut accross southern Ontario from Buffalo to Detroit,neither had access to the large urban markets of Toronto or Hamilton.The TH&B would provide them that access.In the peninsular part of Niagara, the TH&B became the shortest route between Toronto and Buffalo.Today that section of the TH&B remains in use as te CPR's welalnd and Hamilton subdivisions.The line west of Hamilton to Waterford is no longer in use by the original company.

It was in 1892, that the TH&B purchased the existing route of the Brantford Waterloo& Lake Erie Railway which had been completed in 1885 to link Brantford and Waterford. three years later it was extended into Hamilton.

From the TH&B's main facility at Aberdeen yard in Hamilton ( still used today by the CPR ) the train left hamiltion rumbled accross the tressle at Binkley Hollow and climbed up the 1.5% grade up the forested face of the Niagara escarpment through the Dundass valley to the aptly named Summit Station ( flag stop shelter only ). From here the tracks emerged from the valley onto the gently rolling farmlands onn there way to Jerseyville. A MC style station was built here complete with a friegth shed and combination depot waiting room.

After passing over several more bridges, and then under the GT at Cainsville the TH&B entered Brantford, where a modern brick CPR style depot waited for them ( still inBrantford now a steakhouse by the casino ).After taking on water the trains would head out along the Grand river through ,more rolling farmlands to Scotland. Between Scotland and Waterford the trains would cross more farmland and cross beneath the hight steel tressel of the Lake Erie and Northern Interurban.finally stopping at the frame station of the MC on the old CASO ROW.Unlike the eight passenger train a day the TH&B ran on the Peninsula to Toronto line,only two trains served the Waterford branch.

In edition to the few carloads of produce and the passengers this line served the heavy industries in and around Brantford, york farm Impements, Copckshutt tractors, massy fergusson, White Tractors, a CIL plant in Scotland and many lumber yards and coal dealers.As roads were improved through the area and car travel became more of the norm the passenger trains were withdrawn and ended in 1960.Froeght service lasted until 1989 when the route was abandonned.Not entirly due to traffic downturns either, some of the farm equipment plants did close but other industries had oppened in it's their place.A land slippage along a sectio of fill ( caused by farm run off and the run off from a large carwash ) washed out the fill along the Grand River near Waterford. The CPR who now 100% owned the TH&B ( this occured in the 60's when the NYC was in it's death throws )felt that it wasn't worth repairing the line due to it's lower traffic density.The trackage in Brantford was connected to the CN yard at their Station ( VIA Station ) and CN and local railink continue the service to the plants,still several thousand carloads a year !Trackage through Jerseyville and cainsville are still operated by Railink who run the steel slab trains to and from Stelco's Nanticoke Plant. The Jerseyville and Summit stations have been moved to Westfield Pioneer Village where they have been restored as part of that historic site in the villiage of Rockton.

Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Leon, I think a nice draft of Keith's and here's a couple bucks for refills a little later on [tup]

Wow been a busy couple of daze for me, pulled down a tree, a garden shed and it's deck and made several trips to the dump with the lot. Now I have a third of a backyard to re-introduce grass and land scapping too [sigh]To cap it all off when I get bvack to work on Monday it will be for 2 weeks of midnights so that should mess up my timing hear at the bar, I imagine that I will be hit and miss, just as well the forums will be down for a couple three days of it.

Tom It may seem like you are preaching to the choir, but the content is of it's usual top caliber [tup] so a 5x[tup] for your efforts.The Montreal Central sattion shots were par excellance as always.I really got intio the July's greeat events in candain rail History. Seems like July was the favourite month for opennings and last spike type celebrations. Of note the St Jacobs and waterloo Dinner train lasted only till 2002-3.The equipment is still parked by the VIA Mimico car washer just outside of Toronto Union. Too bad it was an F-unit and a matching train iof classic green and yellow black supercontitnental cars.The good news is that the trackage is still intact and is to be the starting point for the Kitchener Waterloo light rail system due to begin operations in 2008.The SD70 series is an interesting grouiping of locomotives. I regularly see the original 26 CN ones on freights through my area along with their SD75 cousins. Nice to see that EMD's import busines is still doing failry well as well.

Mike Nice grouiping of urls,the Naigara Falls railway Museum has models of the suspension bridges past and preasant in their collection. A train club that I was a member of housed the models for them for a good four years till they found their current home. They are a full length I would say S scale model each one's about 6-8 feet long !

Doug Nice two parter on Lionel's continuing saga in the O scale world. i've always got a kick out of the various, military what ifs and real locomotives that they and other manufacturer's have made over the years. Nice internal shots of the SD45F's, one doesn't see many inside shots. the Cowl type locomotives on CN and Cp's rosters can still lead trains thanks to the Draper Taper behind the engineer that gives him a somewhat better view of crew on the ground. SD60F,50F and the GE 8-40CM's still will show up in the leaad positions on CN trains CP's SD40-2F's mostly train or act as remote mid trainers now. I know from talking to CN crews changiong at Brantfrod that they pefer that the "Draper's" not lead anymore but more so because of their sparcer less comfortable cabs then anything else.

Lars Yup the JO's out there are getting more and more tiresome and their inane babble is everywhere.Unfirtunatly there are too many outthere feeding them[tdn] Hopefully you can still keep up with us at least on a weekly basis.i'd hate to miss out on our local domecar and baseball reports from our resident star in both categories. [tup]

Pete I'm sorry but I can't help you on that dome thing, I've absolutly no clue. I'll ask a friend of mine who's more of a locomotive guru, and we will see if we can't get you a satisfactoy answer. The new red and white rag first appeared in 1967 after years of debate that raged country wide over weather to replace the old or bring fourth a new
one. it was Prime Minister Pearson that made it his personal mission to give us a new flag. Over the large portion of socoety at the time not wanting it, including former PM Deffenbaker that was the leader of the oposition at the time.Deffenbaker actually wrote into his will that his coffin when he was burried was to be covered by the Red Ensign not the Maple Leaf when he passed away. When his funerakl was held in 1976 he was the last PM to be burried with the old Red Ensign instead of the Maple Leaf.There was a famous speach that Pearson made in Ottawa to a vetrens group which he hopped to rally to his side for a new flag. Pearson was booed off the stage by the vets ( he was a WW2 vet himself ) Most vetrens were opposed ( many still are to it ) as they had fought and suffered under the Red Ensign not the Maple Leaf. Litterally thousands of possibilities were submitte dto the government, one which gave a great rise was a ring of 9 beavers peeing an a frog ( Quebec ) . The government and people of Quebec was adimatly behind the old flag being replaced because it displayed the Union Jack in the top left
corner. It's hard to even buy a copy of the old flag, I mamged to find one a few years back and I fly it from my porch. the sad thing is that most people in my generation or younger always ask me why I'm flying the provincial flag of Ontario which is similar.

Well that more or less catches me up again.


Rob

[siberianmo]

Evenin! Gents!

Just a few acknowledgments, as this has been one of the slowest days the bar has experienced in quite awhile - no Posts, but my own, from morning 'til 5:44 PM (Central) - now that's a long time with no customers.

Nevertheless - appreciate seeing Pete - Dave 'n Doug stop by. Especially enjoyed that VIA Rail article featuring the "Canadian." [tup] Always a favorite "read" for me.

Someone mentioned Al being here [?] [?] [?] I'll take a double of whatever Dave has been drinking! <grin> That must've been some holiday you were on! [swg] Anyway, hope you and your Mrs. enjoyed the time together . . .

Nice words Pete for Lars! I'm going to forward that to him by Email - I'm sure he'll appreciate your thoughts. [tup] And yes, he WILL be missed. I think of all the guys who have frequented this place - and there have been quite a few - he freely gave of himself for the betterment of this tavern and the policies of the barkeep. Yes - I will surely miss him. One bright note though - circumstances can change and who knows, we may see him on his stool in the not too distant future. We can hope!

Glad some of you have enjoyed my efforts - it's getting to be more of a labor lately - kinda like talking to myself. Then the pages slip by and all those efforts waste away in the Ether. Not too many guys - Pete being the exception - take the time to actually read through each and every page they've missed. And I mean read, as opposed to skim through . . . [tup]

Not sure about my activties this weekend. I'm tempted to simply blow it off and let the place "go" - all the effort is just going to sit, especially once the Forums shut down for 3 days. Posting all of those Pix on Sunday is like playing to an empty theatre. So, for the guys who do take the time and make the effort to provide Pix - think about it.. We'd probably all be better off skipping this weekend . . . I just may do that.

Leon the Night man now has the bar!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and friends. I'll have a bottomless draught and buy the next round. Good to hear from Pete today, and read Dave's SDP45 oberservations. Tom without a doubt kept things going with a fine British Railway Nostalgia ad, the Wikipedia EMD SD70 article, and last, but certainly not least, his July Canadian history post! [bow]

Speaking of which ..here's a little something Canadian for ya'll:

Remembering the Canadian by Doug Harrop CTC Board #198 1995

Riders in the Park-series car are getting a good view of the Selkirk Mountains as the train approaches Glacier, British Columbia, and the Connaught Tunnel on Sptember 13, 1981.



In the mid-1970s, The Canadian was (and still remains) North America’s finest passenger train. All stainless steel and running to 15 cars in length, it was usually headed by A-B-A sets of red and white candy-striped FP7s and F7Bs. This dome-liner ran daily between Toronto/Montreal and Vancouver and was well patronized, especially during the peak summer season.

After the advent of VIA Rail, in 1978, the train slowly became a purists nightmare – stainless steel cars freely mixed with smooth side blue and yellow ex-Canadian National cars. The power was a combination of candy-striped red F-units, blues and yellow F-units and red GP9s. It was a veritable kaleidoscope of color, much like the early Amtrak trains, but it was still something to see and photograph in the incomparable setting of majestic western Canada.

C Rail (and later VIA) tinkered continuously with the train’s schedule in the 1970s, but they almost always, by design of course, passed through the best scenery during daylight. From 1975 to 1981, the train could be found running (in both directions) on Kicking Horse Pass and Rogers Pass and in the Fraser and Thompson Canyons during the day-light. And that wasn’t all. From Kamloops to Hope, in the canyons, the CN (and again later, VIA) operated the Super Continental, another superb passenger train, usually during daylight and near the schedule of The Canadian.

It’s a dead heat as VIA trains #2 (The Canadian, in the foreground) and the #4 (the Super Continental, across the river) pace each other up the Thompson River Canyon at Gladwin, British Columbia, on May 29, 1980.


For example, in 1980, the VIA Rail timetable carded train #2 (The Canadian) at North Bend, British Columbia, in the Fraser Canyon, at 5:15 p.m. VIA train #4 (the Super Continental) was scheduled at Boston Bar, directly across the river from North Bend, at 5:30 p.m. If train #2 was a little late, they would pace each other up the river, much to the delight of on board passengers and the bemusement of motorists on the parallel Trans-Canada highway. The two trains’ engineers seemed to enjoy this “race” and would turn it into a game. For miles on train would lead a bit, then the other one would nudge ahead. They knew they were putting on a show.

If both VIA trains were on schedule, #1 and #2 would meet at Glenogle, British Columbia.



[:I]The following list of phrases and their definitions might help you understand the fuzzy language of science and medicine. These special phrases are also applicable to anyone reading a PhD dissertation or academic paper.

"IT HAS LONG BEEN KNOWN"...
I didn't look up the original reference.

"A DEFINITE TREND IS EVIDENT"...
These data are practically meaningless.

"WHILE IT HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE DEFINITE ANSWERS
TO THE QUESTIONS"...
An unsuccessful experiment but I still hope to get it published.

"THREE OF THE SAMPLES WERE CHOSEN FOR DETAILED STUDY"...
The other results didn't make any sense.

"TYPICAL RESULTS ARE SHOWN"...
This is the prettiest graph.

"THESE RESULTS WILL BE IN A SUBSEQUENT REPORT"...
I might get around to this sometime, if pushed/funded.

"IN MY EXPERIENCE"...
Once.

"IN CASE AFTER CASE"...
Twice.

"IN A SERIES OF CASES"...
Thrice.

"IT IS BELIEVED THAT"...
I think.

"IT IS GENERALLY BELIEVED THAT"...
A couple of others think so, too.

"CORRECT WITHIN AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE" ...
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

"ACCORDING TO STATISTICAL ANALYSIS"...
Rumor has it.

"A STATISTICALLY-ORIENTED PROJECTION OF THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF THESE FINDINGS"...
A really wild guess.

"A CAREFUL ANALYSIS OF OBTAINABLE DATA"...
Three pages of notes were obliterated when I knocked over a beer glass.

"IT IS CLEAR THAT MUCH ADDITIONAL WORK WILL BE REQUIRED
BEFORE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PHENOMENON OCCURS"...
I don't understand it....and I never will.

"AFTER ADDITIONAL STUDY BY MY COLLEAGUES"...
They don't understand it either.

"A HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT AREA FOR EXPLORATORY STUDY"...
A totally useless topic selected by my committee. [:I]

[West Coast S]

Evening Tom and all, have been under the gun with double duty of late, my usual department and all the excitement it entails plus assisting Security Services with a aborted and dead case investigation involving the only major case I never sucessfully concluded before my abrupt departure.

Round of house draft, yeh, that sounds good about now.....

Tom, I still can't fathom UP power in Dunsmuir, heck i've not recovered form the loss of the SP!!! Dunsmuir was a good train watching spot back in the day, someday i'll write about my travels and adventures in the area...Imagine, the SD70 is getting up in years!! One of the more visually appealing design that later was abandoned..Appreciate the shutdown dates you posted, that way I won't spend a half hour cussing out this @#$#&* computer!!!!


Doug, Excellent coverage of Lionel I & II, who didn't have at least one Lionel set growing up? Though we always had HO around the house, dad broke me in on Lionel until I was old enough for scale.
The SDP45 is a classic design, numbers 96-97 were the first to display the revised War Bonnet in 1988, and quickly became the most talked about and photographed diesels in the west, fitting as they were delivered in those same timeless colors twenty five years before. The
SDP45 was not retired due to obsolence, Federal safety rules enacted in 1995, forbade them as lead units due to dimmished visiblity of engineer to observe crewman on the ground and during backup moves, SF reclassified them as B units and restricted them to the rear position.
In 1996 the newly formed Surface Transportation Board issued further restrictions on cowl Units (Amtrak was exempted) that forced SF to retire them prematurely, some had only five years since their last rebuildings.

Pwolf,, Excelllent overview and acknowledgements..I could learn a thing or two from you..have a cold one on me!!!

Mike... I'm going to be here for awhile with those URL's, no doubt comments and enlightments await upon my review.


A belated round for NYC day...Gone but revered by many...

Al, Good to see to around the bar.

Ye blommers Boris, you darn near have enough customers to keep you in trouble...Wait, think I see Leon and Cindy lolygaggin in the back room as my ale goes flat, what could they possibly be up to????

Dave

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and I'll give tonights Fish 'n' Chips a go later.

Back up to date again at Our Place , hopefully now things will settle down and I shall be able to keep up to date and post regular, it seems as though the time as flown by since I got back. [:O].

May I say I though, the Holiday weekend at the bar was brilliant although I missed out on the free food and beer the post and pics were some of the best we have had[tup][tup][tup].

DOUG Great from the caboose encores to the Lionel wartime products and many thanks for the photos with the wonderful model railway to the IRM and the great work going on to restore the locos there. I really must get to Chicago and visit the museum and the roundhouse at Aurora.I had a look at the link but could not find a list of the beers brewed and sold there. Its great to see a historic railroad building put to good use. [^][tup].

AL Very interesting item on the Canadian oil reserves and Tom's link.

DAVE Thanks for the U-BOAT encore and the Canadian railroad innovations, its fascinating to see which each country has added to railroad development.

MIKE I use the same method of typing and it does take ages but great post on the NYC diners[tup]. Many thanks for the great links love the old photos and the one with the lithograph is excellent. I was wondering in the photo of Candian loco #2 what the dome on which the number is on is used for perhaps ROB can help.

ROB Looking forward to the pics for Sunday. I did not know about the change to Canada Day. When was the Canadian flag changed[?]. I see on some of Mike's links they have the old flag, that was in 1948
I will have to get to museum at Delston to see # 60010. I had a look at their web-site but it does not mention her, also Toms article and pics of the Montreal station , and Mike's links it looks well worth a visit.

TED A wise move to keep me out of the kitchen. Thanks for the link to the song, I was having trouble with the audio on the puter but the song played clear as a bell, thanks for sharing it with us.Like you I am glad we have heard from NICK and hopefully he will be calling in at Our Place soon.

LARS I really do hope that you will be able to call in at the bar sometimes. The bar will not be the same without you. In my own humble opinion the bar has really improved since you have been here, with your willingness to step up to the plate during times when folks have been away and the behind the scenes organising of bashes etc as been marvellous and much appriciated, the great response to the One Year Anniversary and Tom's birthday are a fine tribute to you. As TOM says 5X [tup] to you sir.

Last but certainly not least TOM Really great posts and encores and of course the Alaska and Polar Express pics. Really enjoyed the Tri-Ang/Hornby encore[^][tup], in the photo of the model Flying Scotsman behind the loco is a Gresley Teak car a model of one in which I travelled on the Severn Valley Railway, I have a pic of it which I will load into the putor. Great info on the BNSF and the SD40 locos as well as the NYC ads and encores.

Just caught the BR post. Oh for a time machine $24 for 9 nine days of steam Magic.
Well the brides back from work and we are going out so I will call in later. Its good to be back. PETE.

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #89


Here’s something to enjoy regarding the BRITISH RAILWAYS in a 1953 advertisement from my private collection:

See Britain first
– BY RAIL

NEW 9-DAY "Guest Ticket"

for UNLIMITED Rail travel!

Only $24.00 Third class; $56.00 First Class

Not obtainable in Britain -

Purchase before you leave

New Low Cost Features

Bedrooms from LONDON to SCOTLAND

See Scotland's scenic wonderland from Edinburgh to Glasgow

Dine as you ride for as little as $7.00

Britains train services are swift, convenient and so comfortable - the keuy to seeing many places in a limited period. Your Travel Agent can make all arrangements, including reservations at hotels, on trains and channel steamer services to Ireland and the Continent, before you leave.


For literature and complete information please write
Department 27 at any British Railways Office.

NEW YORK 20, N. Y., 9 ROCKEFELLER Pl.
CHICAGO 3, ILL, 39 So. Lasalle St.
LOS ANGELES 14, CAL., 510 W. 6th St.
TORONTO, ONT., 69 Yonge Street


BRITISH
RAILWAYS


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Featured Locomotives #2

EMD SD70 series




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Two UP SD70M locomotives refueling at Dunsmuir, California – 2004 (GNU Free Documentation – foto credit: Eric Guinther)

Power type: Diesel

Builder: General Motors Electro-Motive Division, now Electro-Motive Diesels (EMD)

Build date: 1992 – present

Total production: over 3,000

AAR wheel arr.: C-C

The EMD SD70 is a series of diesel-electric locomotives produced by General Motors Electro-Motive Division from 1992 to the present. Over 2000 locomotives in this series have been produced, mostly of the SD70M and SD70MAC models. All locomotives of this series are hood units with C-C trucks. The majority of the SD70M and SD70MAC models were produced with 4000 horsepower (2,980 kW) EMD Model 710 prime movers, while later production SD70MACs are rated at 4300 horsepower (3,210 kW). The SD70ACe and SD70M-2 are rated at 4,300 horsepower each.


Models

GM-EMD has produced several different models in the SD70 series for different customer requirements.

SD70

The SD70 is the low-nose model of the series, foregoing the larger new comfort cab for the smaller standard or spartan cab common on older locomotives. This model also has DC traction motors which simplify the electrical system by cutting out the need for computer-controlled inverters. 120 examples of this model locomotive were produced, only for Norfolk Southern, Conrail and Illinois Central. (Conrail was partly absorbed by Norfolk Southern in 1999, and all 24 of Conrail's SD70 engines were acquired by NS.) The standard cab was phased out in 1999 and production of the basic SD70 ended.

SD70M

The SD70M has a wide nose and a large comfort cab, allowing more crew members to ride comfortably inside of the locomotive than the older standard cab designs. Like the SD70, the SD70M also uses DC traction motors. Starting in mid-2000, the SD70M was produced with SD45-style flared radiators exhibiting a new exhaust system due to the enaction of the EPA's Tier I environmental regulations. The SD70M was replaced by the SD70M-2 in late 2004, as the EPA's Tier II went into effect on January 1st, 2005. 1,646 examples of this model locomotive were produced. Purchasers included Union Pacific, Southern Pacific (now UP), CSX, Norfolk Southern and Santa Fe (now BNSF).


A Norfolk Southern SD70M passes through Hair in Dalton, Georgia. (GNU Free Documentation) Jason Trew Photo

This locomotive model is also being built for export. Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (CVRD) in Brazil has ordered 27 of this model for service in Carajas pulling trainloads of iron ore. Since CVRD track is gauged at 1600 mm, a wider bogie was designed for these units by EMD.[1]


CVRD SD70M #714 (courtesy: www.wikipedia.com)

SD70MAC
The SD70MAC is much like the SD70M. The main difference is that the SD70MAC uses AC traction motors. AC motors, while more simple and reliable than DC motors, require substantially more expensive inverters to generate a variable-frequency AC signal. The SD70MAC is no longer produced due to EPA regulations and has been replaced by the SD70ACe. 1,124 examples of this model locomotive were produced. Purchasers include Burlington Northern (now BNSF), Conrail (engines now owned by CSX), CSX, TFM/Kansas City Southern and the Alaska Railroad.


SD70MAC locomotives at Anchorage, Alaska, June 1st, 2006 (foto credit: Tom Weber)

SD70I

The SD70I is a version of the SD70M which has been fitted with a cab that is isolated from the frame of the locomotive with shock absorbers (officially known as a 'North American Safety Cab', unofficially known as the 'Comfort Cab' - designed and built in EMD's London, Ontario, Canada shops). The isolation gives the crew in the cab a smoother ride. A seam is visible across the nose and on the long hood where the cab connects with the body. Due to EPA regulations, the SD70I is no longer produced. 26 examples of this model locomotive were produced, all for Canadian National.

SD70Ace

The SD70ACe is basically the SD70MAC updated to meet the latest EPA regulations for road locomotives, but several other changes were included as well. The radiator on the locomotive is nearly as wide as the cab, and looks similar to the radiator on the SD90 series of locomotives. The nose has been modified to provide parts compatibility with contemporary GE locomotives, producing a much more angular nose than previous models. The cables and brake lines have been routed beneath the walkways, allowing for easy access by maintenance workers. As of 2005, 185 examples of this model locomotive have been produced. Purchasers include Union Pacific, BNSF, CSX, Montana Rail Link, Kansas City Southern, and Ferromex.

This locomotive model is also being produced for export. In 2004, BHP Billiton of Australia ordered 14 SD70ACe/lc locomotives for use in iron ore hauling; the "lc" in the model designation stands for "low clearance" as these locomotives are designed to negotiate the tight clearances under the mine equipment.


BHP (Billiton Iron Ore Pty. Ltd., Australia) SD70Ace/1c (courtesy: www.wikipedia.com)

SD70M-2

The SD70M-2 is GM-EMD's DC traction version of the SD70ACe, and the two models are nearly identical in every other respect. As of 2006, 130 examples of this model locomotive have been produced. Examples are owned by Norfolk Southern [1]and Canadian National[2]

References

Electro-Motive Diesels, SD70M for CVRD. Retrieved December 1, 2005.
1. Electro-Motive Diesels, SD70ACe/lc for BHP. Retrieved December 1, 2005.
2. (January 2006). "ACes for Australia". Trains Magazine 66 (1): 12.


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Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

Did you miss the first in the series?

(1) PRR GG1 (page 355)
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=355&TOPIC_ID=35270

[siberianmo]

Significant events in Canadian RR History during the month of July.


Caveat: Much of the information appearing was gathered from internet sources, with credit to “Colin Churcher’s Railway Pages” at http://www.railways.incanada.net/


* July 21st, 1836: – Champlain and St. Lawrence Railroad opened. This was Canada's first public railroad. The inaugural train was pulled by the locomotive the "Dorchester". In 1857 the Champlain and St. Lawrence became part of the Montreal and Champlain Railroad which was leased to the Grand Trunk in 1864 and now forms part of the Canadian National system.


* July, 1847: – Incorporation, by the Legislature of the Province of Canada, of La Compagnie du Chemin à Rails du Saint-Laurent et du Village d'Industrie, to build from Lanoraie, on the Saint Lawrence downstream from Montreal, to Village d'Industrie, 12 miles. Village d'Industrie was later renamed Joliette after its founder, Barthelemy Joliette. This railway originally had wooden rails surmounted by iron straps. It was taken over by the Quebec, Montreal, Ottawa and Occidental Railway in 1878 and acquired by CP in 1884.


* July 31st, 1851: – The 5'6" gauge, broad gauge, is adopted as the standard gauge for Ontario and Quebec. The broad gauge was used until about 1870 after which time there was a gradual change to the now standard 4' 8 1/2" gauge.


* July 15th, 1853: – Grand Trunk Railway is formed by the amalgamation of the following companies:

Grand Trunk Railway of Canada
Grand Junction Railway
Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada East
Quebec and Richmond Railway
St. Lawrence and Atlantic Railway
Toronto and Guelph Railway

The Grand Trunk also leased the Atlantic and St. Lawrence Railway giving access to Portland, Maine.


* July, 1856: – first section of the Grand Trunk Railway west of Toronto is opened between Toronto and Guelph.


* July 1st, 1867: – Dominion of Canada is formed by Confederation of Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. One of the conditions of Confederation was the building of a railway by the newly constituted Dominion Government to connect Halifax with the St. Lawrence at or near Quebec. Sir Sandford Fleming directed the surveying and construction of the trackage to fill in the gap in the railway system between Rivière du Loup and Truro, the Grand Trunk having previously constructed eastwards as far as Rivière du Loup and the Province of Nova Scotia having built a line between Halifax and Truro.

The Canadian Government Railway, also known as the Intercolonial Railway, was formed to take over the lines in Nova Scotia and to construct the trackage between Rivière du Loup and Truro.


* July 12th, 1871: – North America's first public narrow gauge railway, the Toronto and Nipissing, is opened for traffic between Toronto and Uxbridge. The 3'6" gauge line was converted to standard by 1884.


* July 20th, 1871: – British Columbia is admitted to the Dominion of Canada. One of the conditions of entry is that the Dominion Government should, within two years from the date of union, commence the construction of a railway from the Pacific towards the Rocky Mountains and from a point east of the Rocky Mountains towards the Pacific to connect the seaboard of British Columbia with the railway system of Canada.


* July 1st, 1873: – Prince Edward Island joins Confederation. One of the conditions was that the Dominion Government take over and complete the Prince Edward Island Railway which had been commenced in 1871. The Intercolonial Railway became responsible for the Prince Edward Island Railway and opened the line between Charlottetown and Tignish for traffic on January 4, 1875.


* July 1st, 1876: – Through rail travel between Halifax, Quebec and the rest of the Canadian rail system is made possible.


* July 3rd, 1904: – First run of the Ocean Limited passenger train between Montreal, Que. and Halifax. N.S. This is the longest running train in Canada having operated continuously over the same 840 mile route.


* July 22nd, 1906: – The Grand Trunk Railway changes from left to right hand running on double track sections. The change involved considerable alteration in crossovers, switches and semaphore signals.


* July 1st, 1912: – Canadian Pacific leases the Esquimalt and Nanaimo Railway Company, Vancouver Island.


* July 31st, 1916: – through service commences on the CPR Kettle Valley line between Nelson and Vancouver, BC., the first regular passenger train having run between Midway and Merritt on 31 May 1915.


* July 15th, 1932: – The Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway is opened throughout between North Bay and Moosonee, Ont. Construction was started on May 10, 1902. The name was subsequently changed to Ontario Northland Transportation.


* July 14th, 1943: – Central Station, Montreal is opened by Canadian National. This completed a project originally begun in 1929.


* July 16th, 1945: – Canadian National opens the high ore dock at Port Arthur whch was built to handle ore from the Steep Rock Iron Mines near Atikokan, ON. The first shipment left the dock on July 20 on the vessel Marquette.


* July, 1950: – Canadian Pacific opens the first retarder hump yard in Canada at St. Luc, Montreal.


* July 8th,, 1955: – Canadian National officially opens its line from Terrace to Kitimat, BC, with a "last spike" ceremony, the spike was made from aluminum produced at the Kitimat plant.


* July 27th, 1955: – Canadian National opens a branch line from Hillsport to Manitowadge, ON.


* July 25th, 1958: – Pacific Great Eastern on its line to Fort St. John, BC. Construction on the line to Dawson Creek was completed a few weeks later.


* July 17th, 1962: – Following testing on the "Ocean," Canadian National's transcontinental train, the “Super Continental,” appears for the first time in the new black and white colour scheme, with orange-red locomotive fronts. This ultimately replaced the traditional olive green, gold and black design.


* July 11th, 1967: – The first major "unit train" movement in Canada is inaugurated by Canadian Pacific - 3,700 tons of sulphuric acid from the Copper Cliff plant of CIL nr. Sudbury to Sarnia, Ontario.


* July 2nd, 1969: – Canadian National abandons Newfoundland passenger trains 101-102.


* July 20th, 1973: – a former Canadian National turbo train is wrecked at Lachine, QC. It had been sold to Amtrak and was painted in Amtrak colours, units 54 and 55.


* July 12th, 1997: – Waterloo - St. Jacobs Railway commences passenger service over the former CN Waterloo Spur between Waterloo and Elmira, Ont.


* July 15th, 2004: – the BC Rail becomes a part of Canadian National.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


Did you miss the previous six “Significant events in Canadian RR History”[?]
Click the URL:

(1) January, page 215:
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=215&TOPIC_ID=35270
(2) February, page 243:
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=243&TOPIC_ID=35270
(3) March, page 271:
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=271&TOPIC_ID=35270
(4) April, page 298:
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=298&TOPIC_ID=35270
(5) May, page 331
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=331&TOPIC_ID=35270
(6) June, page 357
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=357&TOPIC_ID=35270




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[siberianmo]

Good Morning!

A special THANX to Doug 'n Mike for this week's consistency and contributions here at the tavern by the tracks! [tup] [tup] Much appreciated. Amazing - our MVP Doug and our newest member of the Order of the Stools - Reserved seem to be holding the fort - so to speak! Again - much appreciated! [tup]

A blue sky day here in mid-continent USA - temps are presently in the upper 60s (F) and expected to be rather comfortable throughout the day. There's that word again - amazing - for this time of year! Petrol - don't ask! Haven't been out yet this day, but I expect it to be at the three dollar level . . .

Appears as if our number will be reduced by one as LoveDomes Lars may be winding down his association with us. I can assure one and all that it isn't by choice, as his Emails to me have indicated otherwise. About all that I can come up with is we may be seeing him now 'n again - but it doesn't appear that he'll be perched upon his stool during what has become HIS afternoon time slot. We'll surely miss him. As Lars was known to say: "A five-[tup] Salute to you, Sir! [tup] [tup] [tup] [tup] [tup]

Noted the return of Rob night before last and Pete's visit, albeit brief, yesterday. Hope these are indicators of better times ahead as we limp towards our 16th month anniversary (July 12th).

REMINDER:
Kalmbach will be shutting down the Forums on Monday thru Wednesday.

Later! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

We open at 6 AM.
(All time zones - Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


THURSDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS


Thursday and we’re nearing week’s end! C’mon in – enjoy a cuppa freshly ground ‘n brewed coffee – a <light or <traditional breakfast from the Menu Board and one or two pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery!



Daily Wisdom


The other team could make trouble for us if they win.
ENCORE! Yogi-ism



Info for the Day:


* Weekly Calendar:


TODAY: Fish ‘n Chips Nite!
Friday: Pizza Nite! & Steak Nite!
Saturday: Steak ‘n Trimmin’s Nite! – and –
ENCORE! Saturday



MVP Award Winners

April 2006 . . . LoveDome Lars
May – June . . . . barndad Doug



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Comedy Corner

Not what most folks think of when talking about a "Living Will".....
Me and my better half were sitting in the living room and I said to her,
" Just so you know, I never want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and fluids from a bottle. If that ever happens, just pull the plug."
She got up, unplugged the TV and threw out all my beer!


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The Mentor Village Emporium Theatre


NOW SHOWING:
Double Features and Three Stooges Short Subject!

. . . Sunday, July 2nd thru 8th: 1776 (1972): starring: William Daniels & Howard Da Silva – and – The Patriot (2000) starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger & Joely Richardson. SHORT: Movie Maniacs (1936).

COMING ATTRACTIONS:

. . . Sunday, July 9th thru 15th: The Flight of the Phoenix (1965) starring: James Stewart, Richard Attenborough, Peter Finch – and – M*A*S*H (The Movie - 1970) starring: Donald Sutherland, Elliott Gould, Tom Skerritt. SHORT: Half-Shot Shooters (1936)



SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 00:19:26 (370) Thursday’s Info & 11-Post Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 04:56:16 (370) War comes to Lionel ‘n Real man test!

(3) wanswheel Mike Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 06:02:41 (370) NYC info ‘n URLs!

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 07:09:51 (370) Stations - Depots & Terminals: Montreal’s Central Station

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 11:48:36 (370) ENCORE: OO gauge & British Model Trains

(6) LoveDomes Lars Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 14:53 (370) Island Report ‘n adieu [?]

(7) pwolfe Pete Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 16:42:34 (370) Brief visit

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 19:32:41 (370) Lionel’s Polar Express Pix!

(9) barndad Doug Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 20:59:32 (371) War comes to Lionel, part deux, etc.!

(10) wanswheel Mike Posted: 05 Jul 2006, 21:20:35 (371) Montreal’s Central Station URLs!





That’s it![tup][;)]


Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[wanswheel]

Good morning Tom and everyone, a round for the house.
Some links here, hope will be of interest

Montreal Central Station
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1043958312&id=37
The neighborhood
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1410879606&id=37
Entrance
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1936767072&id=37
Concourse
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-724091215&id=37
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-638151201&id=37
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-931747615&id=37
Mural
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=1022067831&id=37
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=83725224&id=37
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=237410160&id=37
Tracks
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-744437153&id=37
Train
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/railways/index_view.cfm?photoid=953801518&id=58
Mail
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1228740351&id=37
Parcel trucks
http://imagescn.technomuses.ca/structures/index_view.cfm?photoid=-1078010235&id=37
Mike

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and friends! Looks like I made it just under the wire before Leon gets here. I'll have a bottomless draught, and buy a round for ya'll. Good to see Lars and Pete today. Another fine batch of URLs from Mike as well. And then there's our proprietor Tom who submitted excellent posts of Montreal's Central Station, OO English gauge ENCORE and fantastic pix of his Polar Express. I need one of those!

Here's part II of my Lionel submission for today:

When Lionel once again began shifting to wartime production even before the attack on Pearl Harbor, it was a prudent move. Soon after Congress formally declared war, new government restrictions effectively stopped all toy production for the duration, both for Lionel and its competitors. As was the case in the preceding worldwide conflict, men left the company for service on the battlefields in Europe and the Pacific, and increasing numbers of women workers filled their ranks on Lionel’s assembly lines.

Page two of the 1942 Lionel consumer catalog – the last publication of its type to be released until after the conclusion of hostilities in 1945 – proudly touted the firm’s renewed involvement in the production of compensating binnacles for ships’ compasses, navigational instruments, lifeboat binnacles, and primers for the Navy’s anti-aircraft shells – a product line with which the company had obviously gained much experience in the earlier world war.

In 1943, Lionel’s on-schedule wartime production contributions earned the toymaker-turned-defense-contractor the United States Maritime Commission’s coveted “M” Pennant (three gold stars were added to it before war’s end) and the Victory Fleet Flag. Of course, Lionel’s manufacturing involvement in World War II – as in the First World War – was dictated as much or more by economic necessity as it was by an abiding spirit of patriotism among corporate officials. Joshua Lionel Cowen really had little choice but to adhere to government restrictions relating to the strict conservation and use of strategic materials such as metals, rubber, fuel, and even paper. Wisely, he again anticipated the problem, and proceeded accordingly. Even after the war, Lionel continued to seek out and obtain defense contract work, supplementing its toy-making revenues with a more secure form of income not subject to the whims of the unpredictable consuming public.

Lionel’s first military-oriented release since the armored train of 1917 was an all new model: A small gas turbine switcher bearing U.S. Army Transportation Corps markings. It made its somewhat understated debut in the 1955 catalog, all the way back on page 31, competing for attention with Lionel’s new O gauge trolley. Far from the imposing type of motive power that might normally be associated with military muscle, this diminutive locomotive model was nevertheless based on a prototype built by Davenport Locomotive Works.



The No. 41 U.S. Army switcher from 1955 previewed what would thereafter become a nearly unbroken stream of action-packed military and space-related trains and accessories. Over the last 42 years, Lionel had produced a wide assortment of military items including locomotives decorated for each of the armed services; missiles and helicopter launching cars; exploding boxcars; rocket, submarine, tank, helicopter, and boat toting flatcars; and a plethora of operating accessories including a rotating radar antenna, a cannon firing range set, a missile platform with ammunition dump, and even a U.S. Navy submarine base. Available at Lionel dealers today is a complete U.S. Coast Guard train set, the first such item to be named for that particular service branch.

Why the turnaround in Lionel’s earlier anti-military-train stance? It’s likely the result of at least two important factors. First, ownership of Lionel Trains has changed hands three times since the late 1960s, and each new owner has, of course, been able to set and follow its own agenda. Second, the public’s image of the military has softened somewhat over time, with many now viewing the armed forces as “peace enforcers” rather than wagers of war. Whatever the reason, those who enjoy operating and collecting Lionel Trains continually respond to the new offerings. And, most importantly, the ¼-inch sale residents of the town of Lionelville are once again able to rest peacefully, secure in the knowledge that their defenses are intact.

[siberianmo]

And speaking of toy trains . . . .

Lionel's Polar Express in the Can-Am trainroom
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Lionel's Polar Express in the Can-Am trainroom


Once again - a reminder: Our Wednesday Toy & Model RR Day! is NOT a "theme" for the day - but simply an opportunity for those engaged in the hobby to exhibit a little of this 'n that about their RR hobby interests.

Of course one can Post whatever one wishes . . . . as long as the Classic Trains idea remains the foucs. [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Bathams and a round please.

Back from the 4th of July weekend away. I hope everyone had a great Canada and Indepenance Days.

Caught up with most of the chores at home and I will catch up with the weekend posts at Our Place and hope to call in later. PETE.

[LoveDomes]

Good Afternoon Captain Tom and fellow travelers at the bar!

‘Tis I, the Larsman with greetings and a round for one and all . . . oh my, I don’t see anyone here except for the barkeep! [swg] Looks like I saved a “bundle” once again. [swg] I’ll take TWO frosty cold bottles of Keith’s Ale – a foot long “Lars special” and a bag of chips. Thanks! [tup]

Yes, I know it’s been awhile and there’s all kinds of things to catch up on – but not that much insofar as the pages on the thread go – been rather sparse as of late so it seems.

Took in one of the Mets games against the Yankees up at the stadium – and man oh man did the Mets jump all over Randy Johnson. [swg] However, the Yanks got the best of ‘em for the series – in fact, the AL has done a number on most NL teams. Looks like the All-Star game is going to have New York flavor to it. Anyone notice that last year’s NL champs, the Astros have no one in the starting lineup [?] Same for the World Champ White Sox. Go figure that!

Tom rather than my listing each and every one of your posts – just let me say that without you, this place just wouldn’t be. Post after post after post – all pretty much timed to keep things running – is what keeps this place afloat. OUTSTANDING effort! [tup] The JOs out there are all over this Forum – just check it out – just look at the same guys posting the same crap, over and over and over. And you know what [?] It absolutely ticks me off to see any of our guys responding to them. My guess is it bothers our leader as well. [tdn]

I really enjoyed your Montreal Central Station pix and article. It is a great place for those who appreciate “live” train stations. It’s really busier than Toronto’s Union Station, from what I recall – but then again, that may have all changed. It’s been awhile for me. Always enjoyed Montreal and while I wouldn’t dare take Amtrak up that way, given the routine of being late, late, late – it used to be a great trip. Isn’t that life? All full of “used to be this, used to be that.” Also got quite a nostalgia kick from yesterday’s feature and theme on the NYC – MY favorite! [tup] No way do you get equal billing, my friend – you provided so much info and I for one appreciated each submission. Good stuff from the ‘supporting cast’ as well! [tup] Just fewer of ‘em . . . .

This business of Kalmbach shutting down for a bit can’t be all that bad. From what I’m seeing, a rest is in order for the guys who are doing the Lion’s share of the contributions – and that ain’t me. Speaking of which – I have doubts regarding the regularity of my visits for awhile. Sorry to have to drop that on you – but my email goes into greater detail. I’m feeling a bit awkward ‘round the place too – meaning, if I cannot support what you would like in terms of engaging in chat and providing classic trains material – well, you know what I’m driving at.

So, my friend from “the island,” I hope this isn’t farewell – but if I’m not to frequent the bar regularly, perhaps we can maintain contact by other means from time to time.

Best to the guys – wherever they are!


Until the next time!


Lars

[siberianmo]

ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!

OO gauge and British Model Trains
first Posted on page 288


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OO gauge


Hornby Railways Flying Scotsman locomotive on an OO gauge layout
(photo: Les Chatfield – Wikimedia Commons)

OO gauge model railways are the most popular standard in the United Kingdom, being one of several 4 mm scale standards (4 mm to the foot (305 mm), or 1:76.2) in use, but the only one served by mass market manufacturers. OO uses 16.5 mm gauge track, which is inaccurate for 4 mm scale (it is accurate for HO scale). Many experienced modellers therefore find the OO standard inadequate, and they tend to model using the older EM gauge or the modern, exact scale P4 scale.

History

Double-O scale model railways were first launched by Bing in 1921 as 'The Table Railway', running on 16.5mm track and scaled at 4 mm to the foot (305 mm). In 1922, the first models of British prototypes appeared. Initially all locomotives were powered by clockwork, but the first electric power appeared in the Autumn of 1923.

OO gauge was based on HO scale (3.5 mm:1 ft (305 mm)), and kept the same gauge. However, the large propulsion mechanisms could not fit into the small British prototypes, so the scale was enlarged to (4 mm:1 ft (305 mm)) without altering the gauge. This means that the scale gauge represents 4'1½", seven inches narrower than the prototype 4'8½" gauge. It is also used to represent the 5'3" Irish broad gauge where it is a scale 13½ inches too narrow. This difference is noticeable, especially when looking down the track.

In 1932, the Bing company collapsed, but the Table Railway continued to be manufactured by the new Trix company. However, Trix decided to use a new standard of 3.5mm to the foot or 1:87, and this scale came to be known as 'HO'. (It is thought that this may have originated as 'Half-O' gauge, but there is no proof of this.) In 1938, the Meccano Company launched a new range of OO models under the trade name of Hornby DublO, and the OO scale has remained as the UK's most popular ever since.

In the United States, Lionel Corporation introduced a range of OO models in 1938 as well. It did not prove popular and only remained on the market until 1942. OO gauge was quickly eclipsed by HO scale.

OO today

The two main manufacturers of ready-to-run model railways are Hornby Railways and Bachmann Branchline, a subsidiary of Bachmann Trains. A third major manufacturer of accessories (particularly track) is Peco.

External links

Manufacturers

• Bachmann Branchline
• Dapol
• Heljan
• Hornby Railways
• Lima
• Peco
• Duha

Tri-ang Railways

Triang Railways was an English manufacturer of toy trains, one of the elements of the Tri-ang company.


Tri-Ang model railroad set from 1961 (GNU Free Documentation)

History

Tri-ang name

The brothers George and Joseph Lines made wooden toys in the Victorian age, their company being G & J lines Ltd. Joseph was the active partner while George went into farming. Joseph (or Joe) had four sons. Three of these — William, Walter and Arthur Edwin Lines — formed Lines Bros Ltd soon after World War I. Three Lines make a triangle, hence the Tri-ang. Arthur's son, Richard Lines, was largely responsible for the Tri-ang Railways system.

Foundation of Tri-ang Railways


A 1960s Book of Trains. (fair use)

Rovex Plastics Ltd was founded just after the World War II in 1946 by Alexander Venetzian, who made toys for Marks & Spencer. Venetzian was asked to develop an electric toy train set for Christmas 1950. He delivered the product but although the company had found larger premises in a former Brewery in Richmond, it was constrained financially. Line Bros were looking to expand into railways and so they purchased Rovex. Their products would be sold under the Tri-ang Railways name from 1951. To give room for development they moved the company now Rovex Scale Models Ltd to a brand new factory built at Margate, in Kent, in 1954.

The success of Tri-ang mean that British competitors Trix and Hornby-Dublo were affected. In 1964, Hornby Dublo, a division of Meccano Ltd, had stopped production and Meccano Ltd invited Lines Bros. Ltd to buy them out. Tri-ang purchased the company including a large amount of stock. The combined toy railways was marketed as Triang-Hornby although the vast majority of the models was all Tri-ang. The Hornby name being more established and recognised, the Tri-ang part was later dropped and it was sold as Hornby Railways.

Tri-ang later made TT gauge models as well as OO/HO gauge. The 3mm Society[1] supports those who still model Tri-ang TT.

Australian and New Zealand models

A number of Tri-ang models specific to Australia were produced by Moldex in Melbourne during the 1960s, including

• NSW 1955 type suburban electric motor car and driving trailer car.
• A blue version of NSW 1955 type suburban cars pretending to be a faux Victoria EMU was planned but never produced
• Victorian B class double-ended diesel also came in 'Transaustralia' livery.

Other models were manufactured in Auckland, New Zealand, but were mainly the same as those made in England but there were interesting variations

The Australian and New Zealand models were produced in OO gauge only.

South African models

A limited number of models were manufactured in Durban, South Africa. These are very rare.


Hornby Railways

Hornby Railways is the leading brand of model railway in the United Kingdom, and its company roots date back to 1901, when founder Frank Hornby received a patent for his Meccano construction toy.

Hornby, then known as Meccano Ltd, released its first train, a clockwork O gauge model, in 1920. An electric train followed in 1925, operating on AC power, and Hornby switched to DC in 1929.

From 1927 to 1929, Hornby sold clockwork trains in the United States as well as in the UK. Although the trains, manufactured in a factory in Elizabeth, New Jersey, were colourful and attractive, they failed in the marketplace because several established U.S. firms undercut its prices. In late 1929, Meccano Ltd. sold its New Jersey factory to the A. C. Gilbert Company, and Hornby trains had vanished from the U.S. market by 1930. The leftover inventory was sold in Canada and in the UK, and some of the tooling was reused for products in other markets.

Hornby introduced its OO gauge trains in 1938, under the trade name Hornby Dublo, only to discontinue all train production the next year due to World War II. Production resumed after the war but did not reach full capacity until 1948. The locomotives were die-cast, and the cars were generally made of tinplate.

Like its counterparts Bassett-Lowke and Exley in the UK and Lionel and American Flyer in the US, Hornby thrived in the first half of the decade but struggled in the late 1950s. In 1959, Hornby abandoned 3-rail track in favor of more realistic two-rail track.


A 1960s book of trains. (fair use)

In 1964, the parent company of rival Tri-ang Railways purchased Meccano Ltd., and merged Hornby and Tri-ang into Tri-ang Hornby. The former Hornby line was discontinued in favour of Tri-ang's less costly plastic designs. The former Hornby products and modules were sold to G&R Wrenn. In 1967 Hornby was merged internally into Rovex Industries, which by 1969 was Rovex Tri-ang Ltd.

The Tri-ang group was disbanded in 1971 when Meccano Ltd's owner Lines Bros. filed for bankruptcy. The former Tri-ang Hornby was sold to Dunbee-Combex-Marx becoming Hornby Railways in 1972. By 1976 Hornby was facing challenges from Palitoy and Airfix both of whom were producing high quality detailed models. Detail on the models was upgraded to make the product line more attractive to adult hobbyists. A multiple train control system named Zero 1 was introduced in the early 1980s. This analogue system was a forerunner to the Digital Command Control (DCC) system, an NMRA open standard, which appeared in the 1990s.

By 1980 the market was extremely tough and Dunbee-Combex-Marx was liquidated placing Rovex in receivership. In 1980 Hornby became ""Hornby Hobbies"" and in 1981 a management buyout saw the company back on a sound footing. It went public in 1986.

By the early 1990s Hornby again faced competition from newcomers like Dapol and established foreign manufacturers including Lima and Bachmann Industries. Manufacturing was moved to Guangdong province in China in 1995, and was complete by 1999, cutting costs and improving quality according to the company. As part of the process Hornby also bought in some of Dapol's products and also some of the old Airfix moulds (by then owned by Dapol). Train sets associated with Thomas the Tank Engine and Harry Potter (the "Hogwarts Express") have been particularly profitable ventures. In September 2003 Hornby released its first steam-powered OO gauge locomotive, a model of the record-breaking Mallard. Several other "Live Steam" locomotives have now been produced.

Since then, Hornby has bought Lima, an Italian model railway equipment manufacturer that previously acquired Jouef, a French manufacturer. Its items have yet to be integrated into the main Hornby products list.

References

• Schneider, Lewis (May 2000). Hornby's Made in USA Trains. Classic Toy Trains, page 84.


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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

Railroad Stations – Terminals & Depots

Number Three – Montreal’s Central Station


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Central Station (Montreal)


Gare Centrale is the primary railway station in Montreal. It is most commonly known by its French name, however the title is officially bilingual and is also frequently referred to by its English name Central Station.

The station is owned by CN and is situated in the heart of downtown Montreal at 895 De La Gauchetière St. W. (45°30#8242;0.30#8243;N, 73°33#8242;59.50#8243;W), in the borough of Ville-Marie.

With the closure of Windsor Station, Gare Centrale is the main passenger railway hub in Montreal.


Embarqument area
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History

Gare Centrale sits above and next to the old Canadian Northern Railway's now-demolished Tunnel Terminal.


CNR plans for terminal consolidation

At the end of the 1920s, the newly formed Canadian National Railways struggled with disparate Montréal terminals (Bonaventure station, Tunnel Terminal, Moreau Street Station, and McGill Street) and sought to consolidate them. The solution chosen was to take advantage of the Mount-Royal tunnel and bring all western trains through the tunnel to a big electrified central station, which would then allow the development of air-rights, exactly like for Grand Central Terminal in New York City.

Construction started at the end of the 1920s, but was halted during the Great Depression. Construction resumed during World War II and the new station finally opened on July 14, 1943 as the first of a series of large-scale urban redevelopment projects undertaken by CNR and the federal government in downtown Montreal.

The opening of a 'central' station was part of a consolidation project undertaken by CNR since 1929 with the enactment of the Canadian National Montreal Terminals Act, 1929 by Parliament; this saw the closure of former temporary stations operated by CNR predecessors Grand Trunk (Bonaventure Station) and Canadian Northern.

Gare Centrale was an important CN passenger station from 1943 until the creation of VIA Rail in 1978. Following VIA's full absorption of CP's passenger trains in 1979, intercity rail traffic from Windsor Station was consolidated at Gare Centrale.

Intercity transport

VIA Rail runs trains from Gare Centrale along the Windsor-Québec corridor to Toronto, Ottawa, and Quebec City, as well as long-distance services to Saguenay, Senneterre, Gaspé, and Halifax. Amtrak offers daily service to New York City.


Preceding station . . . . . . . . VIA Rail Lines . . . . . . Following station

Dorval . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Toronto – Montréal . . . . . . . . . . . . Terminus

Dorval . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ottawa – Montréal. . . . . . . . . . . . . Terminus

Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montréal – Québec . . . . . . . . . . . . Saint-Lambert

Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montréal – Halifax. . . . . . . . . . . . . Saint-Lambert
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Ocean

Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montréal – Gaspé . . . . . . . . . . . . .Saint-Lambert
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Chaleur . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montréal – Jonquière. . . . . . . . . . . Anhuntsic
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Saguenay . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Terminus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Montréal – Senneterre. . . . . . . . . . Anhuntsic
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Abitibi . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Amtrak Lines . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Saint-Lambert . . . . . . . . . . . . New York – Montréal . . . . . . . . . . . Terminus
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Adirondack . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Commuter rail

Gare Centrale also serves passengers using Montreal's commuter rail service known as AMT. The station is a hub for the Deux-Montagnes and Mont-Saint-Hilaire lines. Gare Centrale is in Fare Zone 1. It is one of the two downtown terminals for Montreal commuter trains, the other being Lucien L'Allier


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Information from other sources


Bustling Hub of Activity

An integral part of Montreal's world-renowned transportation network, Central Station is a microcosm of life in the 'underground' city. Featuring a number of restaurants, nearby hotels, shops, offices and other services, the station is a bustling hub of activity that remains open to workers and travellers twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. Although not built until the mid-20th century, plans for a major downtown train terminal began with the construction in 1913 of an underground tunnel that ran through Mount Royal and under McGill College Road.

Underground City

By 1938, construction start on Gare Centrale or Central Station and it was officially opened to the public in 1941. This marked Montreal's entry onto the world stage as a major cosmopolitan centre. Constructed underground, Gare Centrale became the central point of what was later to be known as Montreal's famous 'underground city' that now stretches several kilometres in all directions. Owned by Canadian National Railways (CN), Central Station also provides tourists and commuters with access to the nearby Windsor Station owned by Canadian Pacific Railways (CP), and is conveniently located adjacent to the Hilton Bonaventure and Queen Elizabeth hotels.


My personal Pix


Montreal Central Station



Montreal Central Station



Montreal Central Station



VIA Rail’s “Ocean” w/Budd streamliner cars at Montreal’s Central Station



VIA Rail’s “Ocean” w/Renaissance cars at Montreal’s Central Station


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Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]


Did you miss the previous two Click on the URL:

#1 – Toronto’s Union Station
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=289&TOPIC_ID=35270

#2 – New York City’s Grand Central Terminal
http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=354&TOPIC_ID=35270

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Good morning Tom and everyone, a round for the house.

Hope it's not too late for New York Central stuff. Great reading yesterday. Glad Rob's back.

The first Niagara Suspension Bridge was officially opened to the public on August 1st 1848. This bridge was 762 feet long (232m) and 8 feet (2.4m) wide. It had a heavy oak plank roadway suspended 220 feet above the river below.

The bridge consisted of four massive wooden towers each 80 feet (24.3m) high, two on each side of the bank, from which cables were suspended. There were four cables - each comprised approximately 120 strands of Number 10 wire. Each cable had been stretched at an equal tension at each side, with wire passing around an iron yoke at each end as a means of anchoring the cables to the rock. Suspending wires connected the cross cable to the wooden superstructure below.

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Ferdinand Richardt painting
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Courier & Ives lithograph
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NYC locomotive David Upton, named for master mechanic and superintendent of motive power of western division of New York Central.
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NYC Steam at La Salle St. Station in Chicago
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NYC Steam in Syracuse
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NYC train hooked up to Cleveland Union Terminal electric locomotive
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NYC's 1st Rochester Station
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NYC's 2nd Rochester Station
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NYC's site for 3rd Rochester Station in 1911
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NYC's new Rochester Station in 1913
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Interior views
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NYC train on bridge south of Upper Falls of Genesee River in Rochester
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Barnum & Bailey Zebras detrain at Rochester
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Rochester's Charlotte Station
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Rochester's Lake Ontario beach station
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NY National Guard Companies A and B, 106th Machine Gun Battalion and their families at Rochester Station, 1917
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Telephone & Telegraph on dispatcher's desk 1919
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Governor Al Smith
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George Eastman Kodak
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Conductor Frederick Ware retiring in 1924. Hired as a brakeman on the Auburn road in1873, he became a freight conductor in 1883, and a passenger train conductor in 1890.
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Charles H. Hogan in 1921, the engineer who set a world's record 112.5 MPH on the Empire State Express in 1893.
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NYC locomotive 999 at New York World's Fair 1940
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I rode hundreds of miles on the Central for free as a kid, twice from Chicago to Massachusetts and back (to Davenport on the Rock Island). Then we moved by train to Rochester, where I went to first grade and half of the second. There were railroad tracks to cross every day on the way to school, New York Central. No lights or gates, so had to "stop, look and listen."
Mike