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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, September 16, 2005 8:10 PM
Thats no lady,thats my wife............
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 16, 2005 8:06 PM
Hello everyone. Tom, one of those strong "house beers" I had yesterday. Appreciate the Katy info. Liked that road almost as much as Frisco. Toured their yard and shop with the Katy Historical Society back about 79 or 80. Looked at my negatives since then and discovered I had several action pix of the Katy loco that I now operate--small world or what??? Let me know, Tom, or anyone else who wants to visit the Midland. This weekend we will be there and next time is Oct 1&2. I sure like to read about the Frisco, guys. I was born too late to do much on the passenger trains before the end but I have one memory and a vivid imagination of what life was like.
Welcome Budkarr. It appears that you will fit in quite well. I like to ride trains too but have more fun operating them.
Today I done something totally different. I have been interested in steam power for years but except for a brief period when I was about 14 or so when I fired a woodburner haven't been around them. Went to the local steam engine show today to find out some info about a steam school soon and was put to work firing a 1907 traction engine! Later, during the parade of engines past the bleachers I was steering the obstinate beast. It takes about 5 or 6 turns of the steering wheel before the front wheels begin to move. Turning the wheel reminds me of when I first started to drive truck--when I had to stand up to turn the wheel. The steam engine was much, much harder to steer!!! Not really classic trains but steam nonetheless!!!
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 7:52 PM
Hello Nick [C=:-)]

[yeah][wow] You've arrived - congrats on figuring out the mystic secrets of posting smilies from other sources (MSOPSFOS)! [swg]

By the by, the lovely Cindy has auborn hair - HOWEVER - she has many wigs that she uses in her Victoria's Secret lingerie shows ....... [:-,][}:)]

Boris may have encountered a bit of latex intolerance .... ingesting that stuff can be hazardous to one's health! [:O]

Work on the S-gauge (S capades) has ground to a temporary halt. No particular reason - just took a break from it. Too much of one thing ... kinda like this obsession of ours! [;)] Looking forward to seeing what you've put together .... not so much for critique purposes, but simply curiousity. One thing about my take on the hobby has to do with adhering to the belief that one's creation is essentially in the eye of the beholder. If it pleases YOU, that's fine with me! I'm hardly that tolerant in real life, by the by! [swg]

Oh I almost forgot, this young lady says that you were supposed to meet her here ... Hmmmmmmmm! Somethning we should know [?] Do you require the keys to the Penthouse Suite [?] [;)][:-,]

Catch ya later and thanx for the drink(s)! [tup]

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, September 16, 2005 6:46 PM
Right,thats that out of my system-[4:-)]TOM-keep`em coming my man and join me yourself,I think the change in the seasons is affecting Boris-he doesn`t even play with his latex lovely any more,I`m beginning to worry...-glad you liked O.N.R. shots-will try and find some pix in the red & cream livery they had in Europe-rather more elegant than the Northland colours to my mind. Layout progress slow of late,discovering that the cosy little nest of freight spurs I had designated as "Rutherford Yard" for want of hard info is in fact Mac Yard-a major facility with an acreage greater than the nearby International Airport caused a slight gathering of breath-however,onwards and upwards.......Have put in some basic ground cover around the area and dealt with most of the inset street trackage--begin to suspect that once fine detail starts to go in area will look somewhere between busy & overcrowded-could be a case of less is more,am taking pix as I go,so should be able to present evidence for critique & debate-What progress with the `S`capades of late ?-Are services on the Can-Am restored to former levels--off to take a few layout pix whilst the mood is upon me,back soon nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, September 16, 2005 6:15 PM
O.K. Guys,If I`ve got this right,We should be about ready for tonights star turn,for One Night Only ( drum roll please Charlie....) The Lovely CINDY.....................[4:-)]TOM-you dont know what you`ve let loose here-Nice job on the pix by the way [tup][^] -apologies for smoke from kitchen-Boris set light to himself in a related incident,back after clean-up,nick
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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, September 16, 2005 5:46 PM
LEGAL DISCLAIMER The shots Tom Mentioned are NOT mine -I copied them across from the O.N.R site -They are the property of Bob Boudreau,a coffee shop regular if memory serves-not sure of legal status of images in public domain,but just to be on the safe side........ta,nick
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 5:00 PM
G'day Guys!

That time of day when we startin' to gear up for the evenin' ... Pizza Nite and steak 'n fries for our normal Friday bill of fare. Expect the pool room to be busy as the tournament amongst the track gang starts ..... Should be quite the event. You may recall that Contest some time ago when no one was able to lift one of the pool tables - free hand - and only later did I discover that Boris somehow managed to nail one of the ends fast to the deck (floor!). Well, one of the track gang mugs actually pulled the nails out - one by one with his teeth. It's going to be that kinda night! [swg]

Rob Was wondering what happened to you last night ... glad you've made it in. Glad your photobucket album is up 'n running ... no charge for the tip! [swg]

Regarding the Fallen Flags series I've Posted, there are some Canadian RR's in the mill .... wouldn't and couldn't forget our northern cousins [tup]

I sent you an Email this afternoon ....... Enjoy your weekend get-away. [tup]

Nick [C=:-)] Your pix have been received and uploaded to Nick's Pix photo album. Thanx for those ONR shots - they turned out great! Good clarity.

Okay guys: check out Nick's album on my site, 7 new pix added today:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Nicks%20pix/

Just curious, the Oct issue of MRR is out - received mine over a week ago. About how far behind are you in receiving those [?] Only thing I received regarding the 1950's special were the promotional stuff .. didn't order it. I have so many issues from the mid-60's to present date (all in MRR binders, of course!) that to add any more is simply an over kill ... if I want to see those pikes - I'm sure they're in the issues I've got. It never ends ...... One day we'll be able to buy these decades worth of MRR's on CD's. That's the way to do it .

Enjoy your weekend - although from the description you gave, perhaps you should fortify yourself before settlilng down at the camp site! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]


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Posted by nickinwestwales on Friday, September 16, 2005 4:07 PM
Well evenin` fella`s,hows everybody doing ?...Ah-[4:-)]TOM,a steady stream of cold ones for me please my friend,and the same for yourself and the gentlemen,BUDD-[#welcome],pull up a perch and have a beer with us. [4:-)]TOM-E-Mail on your desk with long-promised T.E.E train shots-found the site by accident on a related-links pge,not sure of address,but I think its on the University of Wyoming server,-found a link to another site which may be of general interest ...Budd-RDC.org-seems fairly comprehensive,hope its of interest CM3-good call on the tunes my man-can listen to the King stroke "Lucille" all night long [^] GUNNS-thanks for explanation of pic ! MANAGER TED-The clarion call of the huntsmans horn not heard in these parts since the ministry of fun banned hunting with hounds last year,to the disgust of those members of British society sufficiently inbred to consider watching a pack of dogs tear a fox to pieces "sporting"-as you can tell,I`m still undecided on that one.........[:-^]......Well,a pleasant surprise this P.M-popped into town for a break from carrying fenceposts,hitting same with 8-lb sledge etc,stopped off to see if my copy of M.R is likely to turn up before the next one is published only to find a copy of the `1950`s` special in my folder,beamed down from lord knows where,a most interesting read-can see the attraction of the era,not only as a time of great social change,but also as the period most movies seemed to depict when I was growing up in the `60`s,good stuff-Right I`m off to prepare my camping gear for my prize-winning weekend away with the beast of the Carpathians & Herman Munsters ugly cousin...............Gee guys,you shouldn`t have-you Really Really shouldn`t have......Later,all,nick[C=:-)]
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Posted by trolleyboy on Friday, September 16, 2005 3:27 PM
Good afternoon Tom. I think I'll grab a nicelong island ice tea and some of chef nick's leftover lamb that I missed from yesterday evening.[:(] I rather lenghty T-storm kept us battened down[tdn][:(!] Tom You may count on me to continue to drop my posts in the late evening or on the occational daylight period such as now. Mind you I'll be scrace sat and sunday as I'm off to a family wedding in Kingston. Not to worry it will be a working trip as well because I'll be checking out the rail sights there for next may.[;)] Your suspicion was correct,I hadn't checked the appropriate box on the photobucket account. [#wstupid]you should now be able to view the pictures therein. Once this post is done I shall be away to enjoy my train trip[tup][:p][yeah] I'm looking forward to it. I'm still enjoying the continuing fallen flagg series. I may concoct a few Canadain ones for you folks in the next while.I need to consuly my train book library first however. If anyone has any Canadian fallen flag wishes let me know.[:)] BK a hearty welcome to you as well, hope to chat with you more as we go forward ! Ted That ebay aquisition went well should arrive shortly then the scratch building shall begin in earnest. May I put forward another possible for your ugly duckling contest. The Kraus Maffie deisel hydrolics that SP and Rio Grande sampled for a while.Can you say econobox? Gunns I never would have guessed that as the location of that photo. I thought it was a person looking out of a friebox on one of your locomotives!pwolfe Your welcome on the sub info, I found it interesting as to how much heavy duty naval firepower was purchased buy Chile , Brazil and Argentina over the years. Most of it never fired any shots. CM3 Wnderfull info as always. In the vein of a several page back now discussion. I came accross a reference to a pair of McKeen cars bought for a Canadian railway. Two cars were ordered from Mckeen in 1914 for the Alberta and Great Waterways Railway. Retired in 1929 due to the poor reliability of the transmissions, ( no supprise there ). This tidbit came from the Streak of Lighteneing book I had mentioned before. Personally I never have heard of the purchasing railway but there it was, the mention of two Candain McKeen cars. No numbers or names for the cars were given however.Well gentlemen and Boris so long for now. Rob
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 1:59 PM
G'day Guys!

Nice to see a bit of activity 'round here and methinks the Fallen Flags are helping ....... [tup]

BudKarr Interesting that you should have such strong sentiments regarding the attitudes on the part of some who work the passenger roads ...... VIA Rail people, for the most part, have been heads 'n shoulders over their Amtrak counterparts. But, rude is rude and when a cash paying customer is on the receiving end of it - there's simply no excuse. Have you made the trek up to Churchill[?] That's a trip I'd dearly love to make - I call it the Flannel Shirt Express. Would be loads of fun with a couple of guys who are into staying up late, drinking, story tellling 'n listening and just plain BS aboard a train. Now THAT's the way an "Our" Place Rendezvous should take place. [yeah][wow] I know - wishful thinking on my part ....

Happy to see you again and appreciate your interest in us! [tup]

Pete DMI (don't mention it) regarding the MKT - KATY Post .... glad you enjoyed it! Oh [yeah], help yourself to the keg - if nothing else, they are great conversation starters especially if inconspicuoulsy [?] placed in ones living room! [swg]

Are you referring to the weekend of Sep 26th-27th for KCity [?] I know we're going to get together for an Amtrak trip ... just a matter of scheduling. Saturday would work for me, but we must keep in mind that the turn around may not afford us the time needed to view the loco. It's the chance we'd take ...... Also want to send an Email to you and Gunns regarding the trip to see the trains in Kansas. Kevin indicated he'll be working the weekend of Oct 1st & 2nd ... that may work for us, but later would be better.

That History Channel program you referred to has been aired before - I believe it was one of the Deep Sea Detectives series - we viewed it about a year ago - fascinating stuff. Really captivated my interests with regard to the way they went about tracing the origins of those sunken and deteriorating locos.

Ring the bell Boris, the round is on Pete! [tup]

Catch ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by pwolfe on Friday, September 16, 2005 1:22 PM
Hi Tom and all

A pint of Bathams bitter and as my prize the empty Bathams XXX keg please. The fumes from the XXX are strong enough at the minute .I dont suppose there is any Shoulder of Lamb left[?].

Thanks for the KATY info it is hard to imagine the expresses on what is now the Katy trail I have been to Rocheport and been through the short tunnel there. Nearby there is a KTY logo chiseled in to a rock.

In the K.C STAR PREVIEW there is an advert for next weekend at Union Station's Big Train Weekend it says that Milwaukee #261 1940's steam loco will be there for next weekend only.

Did anyone see the History Channel some time last week. I only caught the tail end but divers had found two locomotives on the sea-bed just south of New York harbor. They were of the 2-2-0. type and they think that they were built in Boston about 1855. Did anyone else catch the programme[?].

May I get a round in and [#welcome] BudKarr. PETE
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 12:00 PM
Here’s another Fallen Flag for Pete and the gang from The Official Guide of the Railways – Aug 1956:

Missouri – Kansas – Texas Railroad (MKT – KATY Lines)

On hand reference material does not provide a detailed equipment listing, however there are some items of interest:

Headquarters: St. Louis, MO

Passenger trains of note: Katy Flyer – The Bluebonnet – Texas Special

Slogans: The KATY Railroad – Natural Route Southwest.

….. Only ONE COUPON is required for passage between any two points on MISSOURI – KANSAS – TEXAS LINES.

….. “Texas Special Route – Frisco – M-K-T Lines” from St. Louis to Dallas, Fort Worth, Wichita Falls, Waco, Temple, Austin, San Antonio, Houston and Intermediate points.

….. Specify Katy’s New Fast Service – 17 hours – Kansas City to Dallas - Fort Worth. Second Morning Delivery from Chicago Via C.B.&Q. – Kansas City – M.K.T.

Advertisements: Route ‘em Katy Southwest

….. On The Famous Streamlined Texas Special

Luxury sleeping car and coach accommodations, nationally famous diner meals please every taste, every budget. Friendly, attentive service in an atmosphere of restful comfort. Through sleeping cars to and from Chicago, New York, Washington and the Metropolitan East, via the St. Louis gateway.

Daily between St. Louis and San Antonio.

….. On The De Lux Texas Bluebonnet

Bedroom and Section accommodations available between Kansas City, Forth Worth, Dallas and San Antonio. Roomettes between Kansas City and Dallas; Diner-lounge car … traditionally superb Bluebonnet diner meals. Dallas and Fort Worth passengers particularly appreciate the “just right” overnight Bluebonnet schedule. You retire at your usual bedtime, arrive refreshed and rested

Short line between Kansas City and the principal cities of Texas (daily).

Famous Meals a feature of Katy Dining Car Service!

Breakfast .75 to $1.75

Luncheon $1.20 to $2.50

Dinner $1.20 to $5.50

Know Your Pullmans

All regularly assigned sleeping cars on Katy-Lines are numbered. Car 16, for example is invariably a 14 Roomette, 4 bedroom cars, operating on the Texas Special between St. Louis and Dallas. Reservations are made accordingly.

On these pages sleeping car numbers are featured for your guidance. It is a good idea to check your reservations to be sure your space has been properly assigned.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
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Posted by BudKarr on Friday, September 16, 2005 11:56 AM
Ok, I'll have one of those sandwiches I read about somewhere on those pages between 1 and 110 ...... And a cold brewskie - do you have any bottled Moosehead Ale?

Now - let me get this straight - if I say hello to the bartender and order a drink, I'm in good shape around here, right? Okay - Hello Bartender!

Appreciate the welcome from Tom and Ted, I don't want to wear it out too soon.

I'm enjoying the pictures of your train trips in Canada, Tom, and also the accountings of them. Worth the reading. Lots of good postings by the people who hang out in this place. I like what that guy coalminer has to say and a few others.

I have travelled by train in Canada quite a bit and know the routes failry well. Don't particularly care for some of the attitudes I have come across, but then again, seems to be a common thread these days and times. Work for the railroads and an attitude adjustment is part of the package - especially with AMTRAK. Not all - but for some. Short fuse for me - I stay as far from those types as possible - fortunate for them.

Canada travel to the maritime provinces has never been the downer that apparently one of your guys recently experienced. Then again, I think it depends on one's expectations. Trains are late and track isn't always in pristine shape. Happens. Mine is and has always to take in the flavor of it all - the ambiance - and then sit back to enjoy the ride. Just love those observation domes. The Superliner Sightseer Lounge cars are nice - but I'll take the domes everytime.

One more brew and then I'm off .......

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 9:13 AM
Good Morning Gents!

Pleased to see Ted and CM3 this fine end of week day ....... [tup]

Ted You're most welcome for the Fallen Flag Post on the Frisco. CM3's elaboration fits quite nicely! [tup]

BudKarr's observations are correct - as we both know - but you are soooooo correct in positing that none of that crap has a place at our bar 'n grill. If you're readin' this, BK we largely ignore the Posts of the interlopper unless and until they prove their sincerity in joining the conversation. I've checked back through the records and we've only had three visitors who fell into the category of rude .... they're gone.

CM3 Many thanx for the continuing enlightening Posts! [tup] Thanx also for the round and yet-another-roll-of-quarters! [tup] The Juke Jar is as full as it can get - we'll store this one in the safe - you know, the one with the broken door. [swg]

Drop one in the Juke for BB's The Thrill Is Gone, also Sweet Sixteen is a classic from way back too. [tup]

Can't imagine having that many of The Official Railway Guides but then again, I'm the one with all the issues of Model Railroader dating back to the mid-60's! They too are on homemade shelves in my basement trainroom - in MRR binders at that! [swg]

It's easy to get lost in time when reading those vintage ads ...... [yeah]

Boris in the cab of a speeding locomotive [?] I think I'll take the car ........

Later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by coalminer3 on Friday, September 16, 2005 8:13 AM
Good Morning All: Coffee, please - pastries, etc. look good, but I'm trying to keep after the "weight reduction" program; it's tough, but pays off in flexibility and being able to do "what has to be done" to make $. As always, a round for the house and quarters for the jukebox. Let's play some B.B. King today - it is his 80th birthday.

Our esteemed proprietor mentioned Official Guides and the wonders therein. I can't recall when I first saw one, but have managed to accumulate several 3' lomng shelves of them over the years. The big trouble is that they get brittle with age (sort of like the rest of us). Embedded in some of the old Guides you can find flying machine company schedules (for lines long gone) and steamship ads - excellent stuff! I am busy planning out a Great Lakes cruise from Buffalo to Duluth next summer (LOL)

Let's look at the Frisco some more. My first exposure to that road was during one of my periodic stints in Alabama. Here's some SLSF material from the May, 1961, ORG.

The SLSF at that time listed more than a few named trains.

Trains 3-4 "The Will Rogers"
Trains 9-10 "The Meteor"
Trains 9-709 710-10 "The Meteor"
Train 10-105 "Metwor-Kansas City-Florida Special"
Train 108-3 "Sunnyland-Will Rogers"
Trains 105-106 "Kansas City-Florida Special"
Trains 107-108 "Sunnyland"
Trains 107-3 4-108 "Sunnyland-Will Rogers"
Train 10-106 "Meteor-Kansas City-Florida Special"

As you can see, these trains combined/split en route.

Frisco sleeping car lines operated as follows:
St. Louis-Oklahoma City (14 rtte/4 db)
St. Louis-Tulsa (14/4)
St. Louis-Ft. Smith (14/4)
Oklahoma City-Springfield (14/4)
Tulsa-Springfield (14/4)
Springfield-Birmingham (14/4)
Kansas City-Jacksonville (14/4)
There was also a Springfield-Kansas City 14/4 line (it was only one way as near as I can tell; maybe some of our Frisco gurus can shed some light on that one).

The Jacksonville car operated via the Southern from B'ham east as the earlier post mentioned.

One of the more interesting tables I found was for trains 58 and 59, mixed train service between Kansas City and Clinton. This had two of the more fascinating notes I have seen in awhile. Note 1 - "Passengers will be carried in caboose between Clinton and Centropolis and intermediate points only. Note 2 "Only baggage cars are handled between Kansas City Union Station and 19th St. Yards in switcher service."

I'm ready to go right now - sounds like an adventuresome trip. We'll get Boris to ride shotgun in the cab.

Well, it's that time...see you next week.

work safe

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 16, 2005 7:45 AM
"How much would a "name" train ticket cost today?" "...how much would...it cost for the same full service "Name" train now days...?" Gunns, guess I miskewed the syntax somewhere between "cost of full service" and "ticket fare."[#oops] Best I can do is the inflation tables, the rest is up to one's own research. Yes Tom, a frothy White Russian and I'll be ready for anything the world has to throw at me today, many thanks.[^] Sorry [C=:-)] old Chap, the 2 foot guage was a typo and proof reading error, certainly not a fox trap.[bow] Your latest addition to "manna from the heavens" has been dutifully filed save the "Mentor English Breakfast Sandwich," to which has been added a Management disclaimer. BTW Nick, I play hunting horn also, should a Lodge gig open up: "have jodhpurs will travel." Naturally, I'll take riding lessons here.[:-^]

BudKarr, greetings and welcome Sir. Detractors? Surely there has been some mistake![:O] Why should this benign Thread upset others? Isn't there enough variety offered by the good Kalmbach folks that such derision is singularly malicious? Perhaps close scrutiny of the "Source"[8] might be in order? Any rate, no notice has or should be taken here at "Our" Place.[:D]

Rob, congratulations on your game prize.[tup] Certainly you and spouse will enjoy your 4 days on the Budd Park Dome Car through such wonderful scenery. I've made the trip several times myslef.[^] Let me know how your e-bay aquisition played out, please. Okay, I'll say thanks again for the Frisco synopsis and bid everyone a G'day. Boris, I see you have once again angled one Boondocker in the cuspidor. Never mind, I'll buy another out of petty cash for your other hoof.[:(!]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 7:26 AM
Good Morning All!

[#welcome] Bud Karr to "Our" Place! Appears as if I won't have to get into my standard pitch regarding the Forums and what we do on this thread, as you appear to have it wired. Couldn't tell much about you from your Profile, an opportunity for us to get to know one another better. However - we respect your choice.

I too have come across a detractor or three in my browsings on the Forums - some rather hostile indeed towards the Coffe Shops and this cyber bar 'n grill. Don't know what their particular axe to grind is all about, and quite frankly, could care less ..... I like your attitude - screw 'em sums it up nicely! [tup].

First drink 'round this place for new guys is on the house - so enjoy!

Hope to see you return, and when you do, keep in mind the two Rules of Entry to "Our" Place - Rule #1: Greet the barkeep and Rule #2: Order a drink!.

By the by, I like your name (real or cyber). It surely will resonate with passenger car fans! [swg]

See ya! [tup]

Tom, Proprietor of "Our" Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!
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Posted by BudKarr on Friday, September 16, 2005 1:50 AM
Greetings!

I'm Bud Karr and this seems to be an interesting place for me to make my first visit on the forums ........ Quite a combination, talk of trains, levity and a comfortable atmosphere. Yes, I think this will do quite nicely for as long as I'm able to connect with those who may like to talk back.

I'm not one for dispensing with the personal information, but let it suffice to say that I'm a train enthusiast in the sense that riding them is my preference to watching or modeling them. Haven't got the time for the former and insufficient space for the latter. Don't accumulate too many material things in what I do .......

It took me quite a bit of time to leaf through the pages and I see that a core of you is keeping this idea thriving. Good. You have many detractors on other forums - those who would like to do away with the type of chatter going on within these community type gatherings. Screw 'em, I say.

Set me up with a JD, double on the rocks .........

Check back later ........

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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 12:53 AM
FRIDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Hooray, it’s Friday! [tup] Why not start this day with a light breakfast, a selection or two from The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case and some freshly brewed coffee [?] Great way to start the end of the week! [swg]

News of the Day:

(1) CONTEST RESULTS!

How many Posts does the Proprietor have thru Page 100[?]

Participants and guesstimate (closest wins):

Theodorebear Ted 1200
nickinwestwales Nick 750
CFournier Chris 1234
trolleyboy Rob 815
pwolfe Pete 900
coalminer3 CM3 1300
Gunns Kevin 1327

Unofficial participant (ineligible for prize):

earlydiesels Dan 761***

***Under pressure from Tom[swg]

And the WINNER is ………..

trolleyboy Rob who came closest! The prize [?] A 4-day voyage aboard the Can-Am Railroad!

Check out the slide show at:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Can-Am%20Fantasy%20Trip/
(click on slideshow)

Second place goes to nickinwestwales Nick. Prize [?] A Sunday afternoon at the cabin up at Can-Am Gorge with Boris ‘n Leon! Must provide own transportation, restraints and snacks! [swg]

Honorable Mention to pwolfe Pete Prize [?] An empty keg of your choice! [swg]

And finally, earlydiesels Dan – See where you COULD HAVE BEEN [?] Geesh!

Oh [yeah], the Proprietor Posted 789 times ………

Thanx to all for participating! Phew, just like pulling Hen’s teeth getting some of you to play the game! [%-)][%-)][%-)]

(2) repeat Fallen Flags Requests for information on a specific railroad will be honored providing I can find the data within my library. Then it’s a labor intensive matter of typing it into a word processor format for transfer to the thread. It may take awhile, but I’ll get there …….. just keep checking out what’s going on ‘round here! Isn’t that the idea, anyway [?][;)]

Missed any? Check out pages 106, 108 & 109 for SP – MoPac – WP and Frisco.

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 00:40:15 (108) Thursday’s News & Summary

(2) Gunns Kevin Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 01:06:06 (109)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 01:09:37 (109) reply to Gunns

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 07:44:44 (109) HELP WANTED!

(5) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 07:53:13 (109)

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 07:56:46 (109) reply to nickinwestwales

(7) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 08:15:52 (109)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 08:46:05 (109) reply to coalminer3

(9) Gunns Kevin Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 09:00:45 (109)

(10) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 09:10:39 (109)

(11) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 09:14:14 (109)

(12) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 09:18:15 (109)

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 09:56:04 (109) reply to Gunns – Theodorebear – earlydiesels

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 12:42:06 (109) Fallen Flag – Frisco

(15) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 13:54:35 (109)

(16) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 14:26:29 (109) reply to Theodorebear

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 14:28:58 (109) Nick’s Pix

(18) earlydiesels Dan Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 14:34:48 (109)

(19) pwolfe Pete Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 16:47:46 (109)

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 18:50:22(109) reply to earlydiesels & pwolfe

(21) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 18:57:54 (109)

(22) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 19:12:36 (110 reply to Theodorebear

(23) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 20:00:35 (110)

(24) siberianmo Tom Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 20:39:03 (110) reply to nickinwestwales

(25) Gunns Kevin Posted: 15 Sep 2005, 23:00:29 (110)

(26) siberianmo Tom Posted: 16 Sep 2005, 00:48:48 (110) reply to Gunns

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That’s it! [tup][;)]
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Posted by siberianmo on Friday, September 16, 2005 12:48 AM
Gunns

No one - and I mean no one - would ever guess that answer! Well, at least you'd not be out any prize money, that's for sure! [swg]

Scroll back to page 109 and check out Ted's response regarding the money conversions ..... I had thought he also listed some fare info, but I was mistaken. Nonetheless, the conversion info is of interest .....

Thanx for stopping by ......

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Posted by Gunns on Thursday, September 15, 2005 11:00 PM
Evening all,
coffee, and the fish <the one with the horse radish>
The Photo is of one of our club members, shot through the last driver on the 2926...
back to my question, how much do Ya'll think it would cost to run a full service "Name" train now days, expressed as the train fare?
More later,
Gunns
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:39 PM
Evenin' Chief Chef [C=:-)] Nick

In reading 'n re-reading that menu you've put together on the Nick's Picks Menu Board I'm convinced that I'd never be able to consume the delights you propose! Of course, not ALL of 'em - but why not [?] [swg] Fantastic, as always. [tup]

I haven't noted any signs of the new smilies - therefore I must assume you will be giving it a dry run .... good idea! Should you need further assistance - give a shout.

Two weeks of drinks on Nick - now THAT I can handle .... [yeah][wow] and thanx! [tup]

Have a recommendation regarding your pix on the Nick's Pix photo album .... wny not go through them and ship me off an Email of the descriptions you'd like for each of 'em. Just a one-lilner for each should do the trick. I don't mind if you don't! [swg]

Okay my friend - gotta get along with my life.

Leon the Night Man has the bar, Gents - drinks on Nick - Ring it Boris!

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Posted by nickinwestwales on Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:00 PM
Well good evening [4:-)]TOM,fellow barflys,ladies,indentured employee`s & Juneau & Awk........just a moment whilst I wait for the stool to stop moving-------GOTCHA !---aha-knew I`d win out in the end [^]---Right,post first then menu,[4:-)]TOM-as it`s payday,a round for the house if you please whilst I consider my replies,-indeed,I find you are first on my list--Many thanks for both posting pix and hot poop on smilies-Your step by step instructions perfectly pitched for my degree of comprehension,[tup]-I trust you will do me the kindness of drinking at my expense for the next fortnight [^]-Also helping me persuade CM3 to change his mind about the plan for drawing out route maps out in the pool room-I`ve already sold a number of tickets for this event,including a whole bunch to the track gang,the fishing club,a bunch of Harley riders who claimed to be pals of CHRIS in Montreal and Leon..................GUNNS-that picture makes you look like you are inside a giant eyeball-very disturbing,nice one !!!...........MANAGER TED-spotted your attempt to trip me straight away-S&S-3ft gauge as you well know-If I come across any more shots,will forward them forthwith,thanks to all for thoughts concerning master Robin,went for first visit today and can confirm that,like most 5-day old infants,he resembles an 18" high goblin with an attitude problem and is the focus of his devoted parents attention DAN--not a garden line owner but a definate fan-ongoing debate with Missisnick concerning eminant domain not favourable to expansion-especially since my 3.5"gauge G.W.R `Hall` class apparently requires about 22` minimum radius.............WOLFMAN PETE-Glad you enjoyed the pix-sorry it was such a narrow angle shot,you really need to see it side on to appreciate the not-quite-finished look of the thing-now you mentioned a bacon sarnie......Could I perhaps interest you in the Mentor English Breakfast Sandwich-served all day,--First you take the middle 2 slices out of a big batch loaf and lightly fry in olive oil on one side only,at the same time dust with flour & grill 6 rashers of unsmoked short-back bacon,break 3 eggs into a pan and cook to taste,thinly slice beef tomatoes to layer between bacon and eggs,-additional fillings of sausage,mushrooms,black pudding,etc available on request-serve with fried side out [^][C=:-)][^]--well,that rolls very neatly into [C=:-)] FISH NIGHT MENU[C=:-)]- STARTERS- Whole battered Tiger Prawns with sweet chilli dip & green salad Smoked Mackeral pate with gooseberry sauce and granary bread Indian snack platter( assd Lamb & Vegetable Pakora,Samosas & Bhaji`s served with mint raita & poppadoms) or that all-time favourite--soup of the day,with bread,usually available at the back door for those without admission fee--------------right,main courses-------Skate wing in Beurre Noir sauce,Sole Meuniere,Tuna steaks with Horseradish sauce,Shoulder of Lamb,slow-roasted with garlic......( a dish for two.)--[C=:-)]special of the day:-pan-fried escalopes of breaded Pork with hot chilli dip,Mother-in-law`s potato salad and slaw,3-Cheese & vegetable canneloni........................Salad & vegetable platters,breads and side dishes may be ordered at any time,a dessert menu is also available,,,,,,,,,,,,,,[4:-)]TOM-approaching melt-down point-time to hand over-moonlight mile,take care one & all,enjoy [C=:-)]nick
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:12 PM
Omigosh - Ted still hasn't seen the FRISCO Post! <yikes>

Glad you enjoyed Nick's Pix on his album on my site - Phew! [swg]

Never missed a Sunday evening with the Ed Sullivan Shew - Sundays at 8 PM (Eastern). If I remember correctly, Bonanza followed ....... brought to us by Chevrolet! [yeah] The good ole days (daze). The 50's - the decade that perhaps changed society even moreso than the 60's. The latter was far more focused on disobedience, whereas the overall societal changes of the 50's had broader reach and weren't so divisive.

Okay - 'nuf of that, [#offtopic], Ted started it - so HE buys the drinks! Boris do the bell! No, no - that's a figure of speech! Geesh ....... [swg]

Email received and responded to! [tup]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2005 6:57 PM
I couldn't let the new "Nick's Pix" go by without thanks for a "really good shew" (Toast of the Town, 1950's host, Ed Sullivan). Great job Tom in reformating and getting the pix to us.[tup] Pwolfe, the Class 100 Q is certainly a strong contender for "Classic Eye Sores" around the world. Nick, yout taste for fine quisine has yet another side for the bazaar in trains. However, I must say the diesel cars are impressive. Gas Electrics have lots of character as well. Right Tom, I hadn't planned a third visit but I'll have a "night cap" of the same. I just saw an early Fairbanks Morris streamlined diesel road unit that surely only a F.M.'s mother could admire. I tried to imagine it in Soo Line livery and became instantly nauseous. I'm still holding with the Turbo Train (diesel) and will go with the Central of N.J. (also L.I. R.R.) Camel Back 4-6-2 for terminal cases of the uuuglys. Okay, this time its a "roger over and out." So long.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 15, 2005 6:50 PM
G'day Guys!

And the beat goes on ...... nice chats going on today and if the Fallen Flags have contributed in a positive manner, along with Posts from CM3, that's terrific! Something - anything to keep the flow moving in the direction of Classic Trains! [yeah][tup]

earlydiesels Dan Glad you enjoyed the FRISCO Post .... have to admit, Iearn something new each time I research one of those great railroads from yesteryear.

I think perhaps you may be getting a bit too serious with this cyber stuff ... the CONTEST is for fun - just that, nothing more. One doesn't have to put up cash - the mortgage, or the first born, in order to participate. Just wager a guess - that's it. So, here's the deal: You're in for 761. <huh>[?] you say! Well, if you were to add up just the numbers contained in your Post, the total comes to 761. That's a fair guesstimate, wouldn't you say [?] [swg]

There are two considerations I have to make regarding the trip to Kansas - to go alone, or with the bride. That's to be worked out ..... Actually, yet another - perhaps Pete will want to make the trip as well. So, some Emails will be sent in a day or so in order to line up our thoughts, etc. Watch for 'em ........ [tup]

pwolfe You got it - watch for the Katy to show up as a Fallen Flag Post! [tup]

I expect Nick will send me some descriiptions to go along with those pix .... when he does, I'll amend the display. I'm sure they have special meaning for you and anyone who can relate to rail travel in the Great Britain. [tup]

I'm no help with regardi to your question - but it sure would seem a bit mroe than coincidental that those companies wouldn't be somehow linked. Given the origins of this country and the timeframe involved, there just has to be a connection. That's my [2c]

Catch ya later and thanx for the Posts!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]
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Posted by pwolfe on Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:47 PM
Hi Tom and all.

A pint of Katy Pale Ale and a bacon sandwich please. Thanks for posting the great pictures by NICK. The one on the lower half of page10 reminded me of a named train which was operated by this class of D.M.U. in the mid to late 50's. It ran along the North Wales coast between RHYL and LLANDUDNO a distance of about 15 to20 miles. It ran in the summer only and stopped at nearly all stations. It was called the WELSH DRAGON. Before the D.M.U.s were introduced it was worked by a L.M.S 2-6-2 tank engine in PUSH PULL mode. This was a time in the U.K. when most people user public transport to go on their summer vacation.

I wonder if you gentlemen at the bar can help me[?]. We went to the MUSEUM OF TRANSPORTATION in ST. LOUIS last year, although it was not on public display, their collection highlight booklet describes the first electric main line locomotive in the U.S.
It was built by THOMPSON -HOUSTON in 1892. The loco is known as General Electric#1.I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this company as in RUGBY U.K. there was a large electrical manufacturer called Briti***hompson-Houston(B.T.H.). They merged with other firms in 1959 to form A.E.I. They also built electrical equipment for the railways.

Tom another Katy Pale please, talking of the KATY is there any chance of doing a Fallen Flags on it sometime[?][tup]. Hope to call in again soon PETE.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:34 PM
Hello there. I'll take a margarita on the rocks with salt, please. Tom, I appreciate the Frisco bio a lot. Plenty of people have never heard of the classy railroad that was the Frisco. Even fewer know anything about it. I haven't ventured a guess because I am terrible at anything concerning odds(gambling).
Our RS3m looks like the original Alco except for the GP9 long hood. Type B road trucks, GE electricals, but 567 sounds. Cab is much roomier than the Alco original as 26L air and AAR control stand take up less room than the 6SL brake and Alco's funky control stand. There are 3 seats (and a upturned 5 gallon bucket) in the 142 so plenty of room for visitors. Let me know when you and the boss can come out.
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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:28 PM
Hey guys! Nick's pix now has 18 photos .... check 'em out at:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b222/siberianmo/Nicks%20pix/

Enjoy! [tup]

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Posted by siberianmo on Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:26 PM
Hi Ted

Man that blows my socks off! Didn't see the FRISCO Posting [?][?] How'd that happen [?] Oh well ..........

I think I'll join ya at the other side of the bar! Cindy just stopped by and said she'd give me a break ....... [swg]

Still am puzzled about you not seeing that FRISCO Post. [%-)][%-)][%-)]

Just like hemorrhoids - there are some people on this Earth who are useless! [swg]


Oh [yeah] when it comes to dependability - don't have to ask YOU! Thanx for being here .... really! [tup][tup][tup]
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