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[siberianmo]

WEDNESDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Mornin’ Guys!


News of the Day:

(1) Tomorrow is Fish ‘n Chips Nite along with our anticipated special on the Nick’s Picks Menu Board. Check it out – [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM (all time zones – don’t ask how we do that! [swg]

(2) Index pages for Fallen Flags Posts:

106 - SP
108 - MoPac
109 - WP
110 - Frisco
112 - CNR (fallen only as a passenger carrier)

Additionally: Heralds of the Fallen Flags are on page 112 and Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 on page 113.

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 00:16:35 (113) Tuesday’s News & Summary

(2) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 07:48:18 (113) B&M recollections

(3) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 07:50:28 (113)

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 08:34:46 (113) reply to coalminer3 & Theodorebear

(5) passengerfan Al Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 09:56:48 (113) CN recollections

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 13:39:07 (113) Passenger Train Nostalgia #1

(7) CFournier Chris Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 13:42:00 (113)

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 15:10:20 (113) reply to passengerfan & CFournier

(9) BudKarr BK Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 16:29:14 (113) Goodbye [?]

(10) passengerfan Al Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 18:45:47 (113) Amtrak vs Santa Fe

(11) siberianmo Tom Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 19:30:58 (113) reply to BudKarr & passengerfan

(12) pwolfe Pete Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 22:36:04 (113)

{13} passengerfan Al Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 23:12: (113)

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 21 Sep 2005, 00:03:51 (114)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 21 Sep 2005, 00:44:08 (114) reply to pwolfe – passengerfan – trolleyboy

(16) Gunns Kevin Posted: 21 Sep 2005, 00:46:33 (114)

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Gunns]

Evening all,
Coffee ann pastry

Still lots of intrest in passenger service here in NM, and I usally see the South Western Chief headed back to CHI, during our lunck break, it allways seems to be full.

Later
Gunns

[siberianmo]

Last Call, Gents!

Seems like it has been a rather long day and it's getting time to rack 'em up ..... Whatillyave, Boyz [?] The round is on passengerfan Al - thanx! Boris two rings, please! [swg][tup]

Pete Always defer to caution 'round these parts when it comes to those funnel clouds. Never know ...... The first evening my family and I spent in Missouri, one touched down briefly and tore the siding off one side of our house and knocked out the air conditioner as well. That was our welcome to the Show Me State back in '77.

The more I read about railroading in Great Britain, the more I kick myself for not taking advantage of a brief visit I made in '71. One never knows when the opportunity will arises again ... so go for it when you can. I'd love to travel up to Scotland to see and enjoy what must be some great railroading.

Al Never heard of the "Automat" cars ... but surely know what the "Automats" were. They began in NYC, if memory serves me correctly, in Times Square. My mother used to "treat" me to lunch at one there back in the '40s before we'd take in a show at the Paramount, RKO, Capitol, or Radio City Music Hall theatres. Saw some terrific live performances on stage back then and a movie or two as well. "Automat" cars ... tsk, tsk - I just can't imagine those winning the hearts 'n minds of the traveling public!

You are painting a picture regarding Amtrak that I never knew. My impression was that it came into being because the passenger carriers all finally got the government's okay to bail out of the business, leaving a void. Rather than Amtrak coming along to chase 'em away. Hmmmmm. A different twist for sure.

trolleyboy Rob Glad the weekend turned out well, but sorry to learn of the situation in your wife's family. We all know and understand the inevitability of it all, but when the time comes - it's never easy. My way of dealing with these things is to reflect a bit on how forutnate one is (was) on being able to have spent so many years with a person that loves and cares for you. Heather, I'm sure is happy for that, as many people aren't so blessed.

[yeah] Sunday Photo Day seems like it will become one of our fixtures along with the Fallen Flag series. The former a chance to do something different while the bar is closed and the latter a chance to pick up a bit of info, perhaps not known or just tucked away in the recesses of the mind.

Okay guys - belly up and let's get 'er movin' [tup]

Nite! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and the rest of the crew. I have returned and am now beginning to catch up. CM3 First off I concur whole heartedly with Tom. An absolutely wonderful peice on the B&M.[tup][^] I can smell the creosote and warm journal bearings. This type of info is why I saty here as well as the comaradrie. On a semi unhappy note after a wonderfull Wedding in Kingston we had to come home and make a trip to the Guelph hospital. Suffice to say ( with out the needless details) Heather's Gran is slowly slipping away. At 93 she has done her time here so I may be a bit preoccupied the next couple three days.[:(] Barndad sorry to hear about your incident with the zepher. Hopefully your initial survay of damages is less than predicted. We have had few similar incidents but I know if your crews are like ours they tend to beat themselves up over these type of occurances. Please keep us posted. tom sunday pictures is a wonderfull brainstorm, I'm looking forward to them going forward. Nice early shots and good CNR info from both you and Al. Al I will be adding some shots or Dorcas bay as she sits now as our museum's crew sleeper to my railimages account shortly. Also some new museum shots period. Nick I've put some further thought to your initial yard question. Going back over some of the info I have I may have lead you astray. The yard may actually be CP's Agincourt yard again same type of facility as Mac is on CN. Either way they are both continually busy spots. CP Agincourt had one aditional claim to fame. Up till 9 or so years ago it was the home to the one and only RSD 17 roadswitcher#8923 ( uglly chopnosed in the 80's ) A one off MLW attempt to make a purpose built 6 axle RS 18 for transfer and roadfreight duty. This locomotive test ran on CN ,PGE and CP before it was purchased outright by CP. She was even dudded the Empress of Agincourt as she spent 90% of her life running transfer duty between CN and CP yards in Toronto. Madee the occational; long haul but she was CP's pride. Loco now rest in the Elgin County rail Museum in St Thomas ontario ( minus a prime mover she cracked her block which is why she was retired ) Well gentle men be well see you later. Rob

[passengerfan]

Good Evening Tom, Guess I'll have another CR and better get a round for the house as well.
The answer to your question about being back is no I still have six more weeks of school but everyone needs a break.
The SP is a good example of a railroad that wanted out of the passenger business at the time Amtrak came along.
The SUNSET had been reduced to Tri-Weekly and carried a diner lounge and sleeping cars both mandated by the ICC in return the SP was permitted to operate the SUNSET tri-weekly instead of daily.
The COAST STARLIGHT was operating 3/4 length domes but for food service the train had one of the hated Automat cars.
The SAN JOAQUIN DAYLIGHT was reduced to coaches only and a 3/4 length dome and again a Automat for food service.
The CASCADE operated as still one of the finer trains although the automat had replaced the Cascade Club but sleepers and coaches were still operated.
The DEL MONTE was still operating between San Francisco and the Monterey Peninsula. This was usually three cars with one a parlor lounge for the first class trade.
The CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO operated with 3/4 length dome and automat for food.
Gone was the GOLDEN STATE, SHASTA DAYLIGHT, and SAN FRANCISCO OVERLAND three really excellent trains at one time.

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of the usual please. Would have called in last night but had another introduction to Missouri weather, the tornado siren, luckily one didnt develope but the T-storms kept me out of the bar My heart goes out to them facing severe weather keep safe all.

Caught up with the postings.May I buy around for ALL the REGULARS FOR SUCH GREAT MATERIAL[tup]. Being still new to American railroads this is a great way to learn.

[tup]for the photos on Sunday unfortunately I am still in the stone-age with a 35mm camera.

Mention of the Strathspey Railway part of which is still operated today as a steam preserved line running from Aviemore from part of the main-line station to Boat Of Garten with an extension opening soon. The last time I visited the line a Caledonian
0-6-0 frieght loco #828 was working.

Glad Nick survived the camping trip just glad I cant play pool after SAT night [:-^] PETE.

[siberianmo]

Good Evenin' Gents!

Given the length of some recent Posts, we've had quite a bit to digest 'round here, which certainly makes for some great food for the mind. I think this upswing in the interest regarding Classic Trains may be squarely placed at the feet of West Coast S Dave with his most insightful Post of 26 Aug 2005, 17:33:03 back on page 87. From that point on, we've seen more 'n more on Classic Trains, which once again is why we are here (or should be!).

This brings me to BudKarr BK and his last Post - which appears to be a farewell. As far as "Our" Place is concerned, we are absolutely with your assessment regarding the nonsense appearing elsewhere on these Forums. However, we must also recognize that many "out there" regard threads like this one and some others as also frivilous and not in keeping with the "spirit" of Kalmbach's Forums. Always two sides, I suppose.

I have tempered my visits to other Forums simply because of the crap out there ... I try to be selective with regard to those I visit and what I post. Obviously, I have no complaints with having fun - but my tolerance for the BS floating 'round in cyber space is very, very low. So, on that score - I concur with you and commend you for your honesty in saying what's on your mind. [tup]

passengerfan Al I would guess that your commentary regarding Amtrak and Santa Fe, if Posted elsewhere, would create a firestorm in responses. No so 'round here. You posit an interesting hypothesis, but one that we'll never be able to test or prove. In the era you refer to, I was much more involved in what I did for a living than concern for passenger railroads. To imply otherwise would be disingenuous of me. I've stated before, that I've always been enamored with the passenger trains of old - but never in situations where I could take advantage of them on a regular basis. Being a sailor does that ..... Back to Amtrak vs Santa Fe. I am not in possession of the facts and must yeild to your commentary, as I have no reason to refute anything you've said.

However, I do wonder what entity would have surfaced in order to provide the northeast corridor with the service it surely required, along wiht all of the other routes not served by the AT&SF. Surely, once the signature railroads left the scene - something would have had to fill the void.

Thanx for the round - Boris ring the bell ...... [tup]

Interesting Posts lately, wouldn't you say [?] And by the way, with two Posts from you today - are you now back with us [?]

earlydiesels Dan I see your cyber name out there ... you have Email - PLEASE respond!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Evening Tom Time for a CR and a round for the house.
Another fact leading up to Amtrak was that the Santa Fe only joined reluctantly near the last minute.
If Santa Fe had remained out of Amtrak it is doubtful if their would even be an Amtrak today. Failure to join would have mean't that the Santa Fe would still have had to operate the SUPER CHIEF/EL CAPITAN, SAN FRANCISCO CHIEF, TEXAS CHIEF, three SAN DIEGANS, two GOLDEN GATES and a Denver-La Junta connection. Santa Fe's reason for finally joining Amtrak was the need to replace many of the older cars with new ones and Santa Fe was not prepared to do that nor were the Shareholders willing to absorb the high cost of new equipment. If Santa Fe would have remained out of Amtrak then Amtrak itself would have had to operate competing trains such as the CITY OF LOS ANGELES and CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO. Not to mention what would Amtrak have done to provide service to Texas. Amtrak would have had to rely on Santa Fe solely to provide LA -San Diego service. They might have provided competing service to the GOLDEN GATES by keeping the SAN JOAQUIN DAYLIGHT. As it is today their is no connecting service south of Denver as their would have been if Santa Fe had not joined Amtrak. It is my belief that Amtrak put a great deal of pressure on Santa Fe to join the national passenger carrier. Santa Fe provided more than their share of equipment to Amtrak another reason Amtrak needed Santa Fe more than Santa Fe needed Amtrak.

[BudKarr]

How about a frosty cold mug of Bud Lite for me today? Just one thanx, and hello to you, barkeep.

Congratulations to all of you who have posted so many interesting and on point topics. Well done and a good reason to keep coming back here.

I'm a bit turned off with what I've been seeing on these forums. Seems to me there are an abundance of jerks out there who have nothing better to do than to come up with the most innane nonsense to post. Surveys and foolish questions that apparently have no real merit ocupy all of the forums that I've looked at. Even this forum has some junk as well. What amazes me evven more are the people who answer these guys. Why encourage this nonsense?

One thing i liked about this idea was to be able to talk about specific topics on specific forums. Seems to me as if it is out of hand. Even on this thread there seems to be a propensiity on the part of a small number to ignore direct questions and also to make no mention of someone's fine work in putting together some very interesting and informative postings. That's just plain rude and I'm not up for that.

Well, I have enjoyed my visits here at the bar and think that Tom runs a tight ship, perhaps the only way to really stay on course. I thought you'd like the sea talk analogy - Tom.

Be seeing you as I search for a place to roost.

BK

[siberianmo]

G'day Guys,

I'm back for the rest of the day, thanx CIndy. I'm glad the boys behaved .... Oh, you're not [?] Hmmmmmmmm.

passengerfan Al Nice supplement to the CNR Fallen Flags series ....... I don't think anyone can top your experiences with riding those great North American passenger trains. [tup]

Chris Continuing on with the [#offtopic] subject of malt beverages and the Eagles ..... Didja know that Cragganmore was named after a hill located behind the distillery in the Speside region of Scotland [?] Further, this distillery, the creation of one John Smith, was the first to be lcoated along a rail line - Strathspey railway - and also had a private siding built in 1869. A fine malt whiskey indeed! [tup]

Joe Walsh is indeed a hoot and aside from that outrageous outfit he wore, what did you think of hte helmut cam [?] I think the solo singing is best left to Don Henley and Glenn Frey - Joe is a far better guitarist than a singer! [swg]

Fine Posts as of late, wouldn't you agree [?] Really keeping with the idea of "Our" Place where the talk of Classic Trains melded in with some fun and of course partaking in an adult beverage or three is what we strive to attain and maintain!

Catch ya later ........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[CFournier]

Hi TOM and the gang, a shot of Cragganmore svp. TOM, I haven’t found a single malt you wouldn’t know about! This Speyside malt is something else! I usually keep a bottle well hidden behind the others…
NICK, I saw Joe Walsh with the James Gang way back in 1973 I think. He was then as crazy a performer as he would become with the Eagles. “Tend my Garden”, “Funk #49”,”Ashes the rain and I” etc. I have the Melbourne farewell concert DVD and you should see Joe’s outfit ! OK, off-topic, Ring the bell Boris, this one round is on me!
Chris
[}:)]

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #1

Here’s something to ponder with regard to our appreciation and fascination with

Classic Trains. Check this out …….

Many of the passenger railroads we’ve heard of and perhaps traveled aboard, had their start up in the 1800’s and early 1900’s. Check out these names of perhaps the best known:

Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe (1863)
Atlantic Coast Line (1900)
Baltimore & Ohio (1827) #1
Boston & Maine (1835)
Canadian Pacific (1881)
Chesapeake & Ohio (1867)
Chicago & Northwestern (1859)
Chicago, Burlington & Quincy (1855)
Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul (“The Milwaukee Road,” 1874)
Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific (1866)
Erie (1859)
Great Northern (1889)
Illinois Central (1851)
Kansas City Southern (1900)
Lehigh Valley (1855)
Louisville & Nashville (1850)
Missouri Pacific (1879)
New York Central (1914, although the formal adoption of that name came later)
New York, Chicago & St. Louis (“Nickel Plate Road,” 1881)
Norfolk & Western (1881)
Northern Pacific (1864)
Pennsylvania Railroad (1846)
Seaboard Air Line (1900)
Southern Pacific (1884)
Southern Railway (1887)
Union Pacific (1862)
Wabash (1877)
Western Pacific (1903)

[source:] The American Passenger Train

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom Just Time for a cooffee and a couple of those diet pastries from the Mentor Bakery.
I don't belive that any railroad in North America made the effort to save passenger service more than the CN in the late 1960's and early 1970's before Via Rail took over all Canadian Passenger services.
The CN purchased dozens of used cars from U S roads mostly sleeping cars but including six full length domes from the Milwaukee Road and six Sleeper Observations.
CN offered Red White and Blue fares and litterally filled their trains. The CN shopped most cars and brightened the interiors up to give them a more modern appearance. They took old Fort series heavyweight observations and converted them to modern full length lounge cars for sleeping car passengers on such trains as the OCEAN, SCOTIAN, CHALEUR PANORAMA and SUPER CONTINENTAL. The full length domes were given bright attractive interiors and assigned to the SUPER CONTINENTAL between Edmonton and Vancouver and to the PANORAMA between Winnipeg and Vancouver. They introduced the RAPIDOS between Montreal and Toronto in 4 hours 59 minutes using conventional equipment and adding high speed geared A-B-A sets of GMD built FP-9 - F9B - FP-9 to power the trains. They then introduced The TURBOS articulated nine car trains with a turbo dome at each end so turning at terminals was unnecessary. These trains managed to operate between Toronto and Montreal in 4 hours 30 minutes.
CN next turned their attention to Southwestern Ontario introducing the TEMPO trains between Toronto - Sarnia and Toronto - Windsor . They usied existing Alco RS-18 roadswitchers initially with Cummings Hep units installed in the short hoods and high speed gearing for pulling the lightweight Aluminum Tempo cars (Rough riding at high speed). The cars today operate in Ski Train service in Colorado where they don't encounter high speed running and are far more successsful. No one made a more determined effort to fill passenger trains then CN and were far more successful at it then Amtrak in its first years. While rival CP let the CANADIAN become threadbare and worn CN proved that if you offered bright attractive trains with reasonable fares you could fill the trains. What happened a change of government and a different outlook to passenger rail services. But while it lasted the CN offered the best passenger rail services in North America throughout the late 1960's and early 1970's. It's to bad no one at Amtrak or Via paid attention.
P.S. And who could forget the Prime Rib dinner served in the CN dining cars they were scrumptious. Or how about the drinking areas of the lounge cars offering the free saltiest pretzels I have ever eaten, but they sure incouraged patrons to drink more.

[siberianmo]

Good Morning Guys!

There's something that just needs to be said this fine day. coalminer3 CM3 if you're not a writer, you should be. There are so many train books out there, but I've never - repeat - never, come across anything that can propel me into the scene being described as what you've been submitting lately. This last accounting of your experiences, thirty some odd years ago with the B&M belongs chronicled in book form. Go for it! You surely have the ability and talent. Great piece. Thanx! [tup][tup][tup]

Ted A good morning to you down in the sunny [?] south. I recognize where you are geographically, but man oh man, Florida is the bulls eye these days for hurricanes. About the only good thing with the latest, is that the more populated centers are being spared - nevertheless, this year's installments of storms appears to be bent on running through the alphabet before the 'sesason' ends. Then they start on the Greek version ... hope you never witness Hurricane Omega! [tdn]

Unlike CM3 - passengerfan Al and West Coast S Dave my offerings are taken from sources not mine. Of course, I have submitted several "trip reports" along the way - but they had short lives, so to speak, these Fallen Flags appear to be catching on. That's why the SUMMARIES have an "index" of 'em. Glad you enjoy what's been Posted ..... [tup] I share your appreciation for the Canadian Pacific and their wonderful passenger trains. The Queen of the Fleet surely was The Canadian, kept in operation by today's VIA Rail's Canadian (note the absense of "The" - a subtle difference, but one that the rivet counters amongst us would be quick to recognize!) Of course, CNR's "Ocean Limited" still runs as the "Ocean" under VIA Rail's banner. Those names are important in railroading lore - just as Amtrak's long distance trains have retained many of the well known names, with vastly altered routes - it's the name that rings the bell for many.

Regading the continuing negativity regarding the Federal efforts before and atter Katrina - suffice it to say that a leftie media will give only a modicum of attention to the truth, therefore don't expect much regarding Amtrak's offer to help with the evacuation. That's not what sells, nor is it on their collective agenda to bash away, bash away, bash away all!

I'll be away for most of the AM - so, Cindy will be behind the bar! By the by, she's taking a sabbatical from the all female university up the road and 'round the bend. So, we'll be seeing quite a bit of her (yeah) (wow) [}:)] [:-,] this Fall and into the holiday season. She's consented to be placed on the payroll - but only if she's permitted to remain under my supervision and that of Chief Chef Nick [C=:-)] - how could I resist! Sorry, Ted - don't know what it is, but for some reason, she'd rather spend a weekend in the Shed than be under your charge! [%-)][%-)]

A note for all Don't feel slighted if I don't make a Posted reply to submssions where it is evident that no discussion is to ensue or if it is a direct response to someone elses commentary. I'm not into running up numbers - and if I somehow neglect mentioning your Post - it ain't personal!

Catch ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

'Mornin Tom and you early birds. Just a decaf and Rye dry toast for now. Its looking as though "Rita" will be taking a path well west of me neighborhood. Well, some excellent "poop" on the CN. It has taken until now to scope out the many nuances of such a huge, far flung Road. The "National" had more R.O.W. than any in North America at one time (1950's?) Somehow, I am partial to C.P. and their steam loco roster of the early years. True, you can't go wrong with either and we have both.[^]

Thanks for some answers Trainnut 484. Now and then, its nice to know I'm not talking to myself.[:O] 'Round these parts, CSX and ConRail (BLECH!) are the "movers and shakers," though its all pretty mundane fare. AmTrak makes a couple of daily "token" runs out of Tampa at ungodly hours in a neighborhood you wouldn't travel in a Brinks armored truck. The old Station still stands and trains use the original platforms. I guess that is worth something; just haven't figured out what.

Pinellas Park, Fl. (my location) Chamber of Commerce make their offices in a replica of the old St. Pete Pass. Station. The site is on the last remaining CSX feeder to St. Pete. Many years ago, the St. Pete Pier was served by the City's trolley lines via rail causeway built on pillings jetting into Tampa Bay. A major hurricane changed all that long before I moved here in 1987. All in all, [zzz]!

I'll probably settle for a jaunt to Miami or Savanah, GA this Fall as the original New Orleans plan was "put on hold" indefinitely. BTW, we received news that AmTrak offered emergency service to N.O. before and after Katrina but there was no response from LA. authorities. Cruise ships were the preferred mode for temporary quarters rather than evacuation via rail. That Option makes perfect sense when you consider that Carnival (participated) and other ship's registry are in Middle Eastern Countries that desperately need our U.S. tax dollars.[bow]

Okay Boris, I can't stand you sober and you can't stand me "hammered!" Let's come to an understanding: you remain on your side of the "men only" blue line and I stay on my side. Also, you forgot to replace the seats on the bar stool pillars Monday morning and now, I am walking bow legged pending physical thereapy.[:(!] See ya's soon.

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All: Coffee, please and, as usual, a round for the house. weather here today is hazy and warm - maybe some rain later this a.m.; we could use it as DNR folks are geting concerned abt. fire danger.

Today's installment is 1 30+ yr old piece that deals with meanderings along a Boston and Maine branch line which, alas, is no longer with us. There's another part which I'll save for colder weather. I'm so glad I saved the notebooks, even though I was tempted to toss them in moving all over the country.

Branch Line Set Outs – Rocky’s Visit

It’s a quiet midsummer afternoon. I’ve slipped through the fence to walk along the track of a B&M branch line near Boston. This is about as close as I can get in the last third of the century to the New England I remember before my childhood was ripped up, paved, and turned into condominiums.

The track is interesting to look at and I slow my steps to examine it more closely. There are old ties crumbling back into wood splinters. Many with date nails in them dating back to the time when my father was an infant and Lindbergh had not yet flown from New York to Paris. I reach down and pull on one of the nails and it easily comes away from the tie The nail is flat headed with the date in raised numbers on the head. It’s round and rusty, about one and one-half inches long; 1923 it says.

By summer 1923, the last American occupation troops are leaving Germany in the aftermath of the Great War, the Teapot Dome scandal is starting to take over the newspapers, Yankee Stadium is open, and President Harding is dead, replaced by a taciturn man sworn in by lamplight at his father’s house in Vermont. And on a day when all this was happening a work crew came along, replaced some ties, and probably never thought about them again. I put the nail in my pocket and walk on.

There is not much cinder and gravel ballast along the branch. Somewhere, I muse, in the B&M’s offices in North Station there’s a book that tells when the last shovels of cinders and gravel had been spread on that section, but again it was probably long forgotten, like the men who sweated and swore as they lifted the rails, slid the old ties out and the new ties in, and spiked them into place. Now the rail is rusty and the joints “clack” alarmingly like a child running a stick along a picket fence when the morning and evening passenger trains pass.

Grass and weeds sprout up from the ballast between the ties. A small breeze blows fitfully from the northwest and Queen Anne’s lace nods it’s head alongside heavy pregnant spires of goldenrod. I walk on and look across the meadows on the northeast side of the tracks. Grass and flowers, flowers and grass waving in the breeze to a counterpoint of cricket sounds. A few clouds are off in the distance, but it’s not going to rain this afternoon.

In the distance, behind me, I think I hear something, but I’m not sure. It can’t be a train as they never run out this far late in the afternoon as there’s not enough time to get back before the passenger train runs. But there it is - two longs, a short, and a long for the crossing two streets down. As my high school Latin teacher said, it’s the exceptions that make things interesting. Two longs, a short, and a long for the nearby crossing and here’s the engine, or should I say the train: B&M 1751, a Great Northern boxcar, and a caboose.

Whatever anyone says about the B&M, its roster is small enough so that I knew every engine by number. They haven’t bought any new power in years and 1751's one of a batch of chop nosed GP18s that are the newest engines they have. So here it is, rocking perilously along the light rail of the branch. They stop and I ask the engineer what they’re doing out here with that engine. Railroaders, like anybody else who works a hard and dangerous job, use few words to say anything, so it’s real important to listen. His reply is typical, “It's all they !@#$% had to give us. The !@#$% is so heavy she’ll probably turn over. Anyway, we won’t be here too long - I hope.” He pauses for a minute and adds, !@#$, it’s hot out here. The brakeman unloads from the buggy, and pulls the pin between it and the boxcar. He flips a go ahead to the engineer and 1751 and the boxcar move ahead with the brakeman on the car’s side ladder.

After moving ahead a short distance, the engine brakes to a stop. The brakeman gets down from his perch and says quietly, “Haven’t been out here in awhile,” then looks around and shakes his head. “Let’s see if we can find the *** switch,” he says, and spits into the weeds.

The weeds are so high and the vegetation so thick that it’s hard to see where the switch is. The brakeman stomps and flattens vegetation until the switch appears nestled in the weeds. The lock works, surprisingly. The siding is down there somewhere in the grass, milkweeds, and sumac bushes. The brakeman climbs back up onto his perch and the engineer slowly backs the loaded car down the siding. It crushes the grass and the milkweeds and the sumac bushes as it rolls. The crushed vegetation yields a hot, dusky smell that makes my nose itch. The rails groan under the car’s weight as it backs and the brakeman yells to me as he passes, “At least it’s goin’ slow. If I have to jump I won’t have far to go, if the weeds don’t get me.” The car crashes through the last of the grass and the milkweeds and the sumac as it gets to the lumber yard’s spotting point. “Ho,” yells the brakeman, and the engine stops. The brakeman jumps down and reaches down between the car and the engine to undo the air hose on the boxcar. The air line makes a harsh, flat “snap” as it parts. The engine pulls up a little and waits while the brakeman goes up high to turn the brake wheel with a “clacka, clacka, clacka” sound to tie down the brakes on the boxcar. He climbs down then goes to reline the switch and lock it. It works a little easier now. He looks at his watch and says, “We’ll have just enough time if we hurry.”

“’Mon back,” he yells to the engineer and swings onto 1751s footboard as it passes. They couple onto the caboose and start backing south along the branch. Again I hear the long, long, short, long signal for the crossing as 1751 disappears around the curve. One more crossing signal and it’s gone.

I’m left alone with the Great Northern boxcar. This light green with rust spots representative of Rocky’s Road is a bit banged up, but there’s Rocky himself proclaiming “Damage Free” service on the route of the Empire Builder. The card on the tackboard says the load had originated somewhere in Washington State about 12 days ago. The car smells of distance, oil, hot metal and lumber. It’s come across the country to rest here on the branch, about as far from Marias Pass as it can get. It’s getting late, I pat the Rocky’s car on it’s rusted side, and turn to walk back down the track toward home.

All for now.

Work safe

[siberianmo]

TUESDAY’s NEWS & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

Mornin’ Guys! You know where the coffee urns are – so let’s get started, shall we [?]

News of the Day:

(1) repeat Something new! Sunday Photo Day got off to a good start ….. check it out! You are invited to post your Classic Trains pix (real & model) on Sunday’s.

(2) Check out the Fallen Flags Posts on pages:

106 - SP
108 - MoPac
109 - WP
110 - Frisco
112 - CNR (fallen only as a passenger carrier)

(3) Heralds of the Fallen Flags are on page 112.

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 00:20:18 (112) Monday’s News & Summary

(2) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 09:18:20 (112)

(3) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 09:50:24 (112)

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 10:40:37 (112) reply to coalminer3 & Theodorebear

(5) West Coast S Dave Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 12:57:52 (112)

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 13:20:10 (112) reply to West Coast S

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 13:21:31 (112) Fallen Flag – CNR

(8) CFournier Chris Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 15:08:20 (112)

(9) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 15:40:39 (112) Fallen Flag – CNR, cont’d

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 15:46:13 (112) reply to CFournier

(11) barndad Doug Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 17:52:29 (112)

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 18:15:24 (113) reply to barndad

(13) BudKarr Bud Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 18:38:58 (113)

(14) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 19 Se0 2005, 19:43:43 (113)

(15) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 20:35:46 (113)

(16) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 20:36:39 (113)

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 19 Sep 2005, 21:23:23 (113) reply to BudKarr – Trainnut484 – Theodorebear – nickinwestwales

(18)Gunns Kevin Posted: 20 Sep 2005, 00:12:50 (113)

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Gunns]

Evening all,
Coffee and some of that pastery,
Just checking through, spent the day at the State Fair, ended up as one of the "Interpreters" for passenger trains at one of the big modular layout they have set up. I was in looking for a "N" scale Northern to put in a model of our "Dream" Maint shop I'm making.
More later,
Gunns

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Guys! Whoa - looks like I've gotta crowd at the bar tonight! [tup]

BudKarr BK - Looks like you prefer BK, so unless you say otherwise - that's it! [swg] Appreciate your commentary on that Pullman Porter friend of yours - oddly enough, I too knew a guy who fit that description. He was a St. Louisian who worked the trains crossing the country in either direction (east-west) and had stories that not only captivated, but seemingly went on and on .... a nice man with some wonderful insights. Special people, weren't they [?] [tup][tup][tup]

That customer who traveled across Canada on board the CNR was passengerfan Al - he says he'll be away, or an infrequent visitor for about 4 or 5 weeks - BUT - I've seen his cyber name "up'" tonight and over the weekend. No Posts, however ....

Trainnut484 Russell - Hey - no quickies at this bar! "Sit a spell" is what it says in the subject line. So, unless you want to put up with Boris 'n Leon holding you to your stool - you may want to rethink this quick stuff ....... Heck your graphics take up more space than your narrative! Feeling picked on (again) [?] [swg]

Ted What, no comment about the CNR [?] Thought for sure this one would have gotten your attention. Hmmmmmmm. Anyway, I recall a bartender or two aboard those Pennsy's who were extremely kind to the guys in uniform. But then again, so were many of the travelers. Give the sailor a drink ...... [yeah] remember those words (and times) well! [tup]

Nick Hello Dolly! was well done and provided a throughly enjoyable Saturday night out for the bride and I.

Appreciate the endorsement of the Sunday Picture Day idea. Hope you join in on it!

The pix in the display cases will have to be redone. I'm not happy with the clarity - mainly a bit too dark. Pehaps when they get "clicked" on the details show up better than what I've been seeing. Anyway, it's a fine collection over a span of years going back to the mid-60's. Every bit of it comes from the budget-minded hobbyist; nothing upscale, believe me. Glad you like 'em. I do put together special runs now 'n then - but these loco's and cars are retired from model railroads that no longer exist. My current road, the Can-Am is a period piece in that it's from the 1990's thru present times. Therefore, those loco's and cars just don't "fit." Insofar as the ONR and a few other Canadian roadnames are concerned in the display case, they are there because there's no room on the sidings! That, plus they are 40 footers and I like to go with the longer cars for the Can-Am; a few exceptions of course - but mainly without the roof walks too. I can bring back the ONR box car for your dry storage car! That'll work real well - good idea! [tup]

Me 'n music are about as "tight" as me 'n trains. I'm just not talented in that department - but love the tunes, all kinds. I'm "into" the music of the Maritimes and like to pick out the origins from European sources. Same for the music we call Blue Grass. I wonder how many of my fellow countrymen even give a Rat's Patoot about things like that [?] I do!

The Eagles! Now - they wouldn't be diddly squat without Joe Walsh, and yes - he's featured in the "Hell Freezes Over" concert. That was their reunion from a 14 year hiatus - in fact they all made it back. Music was fine - but the interaction with the audience was a bit restrained. Proabably because it was done for MTV. The actual tour wasn't marketed on video. Their next video DVD is of the Melbourne, Austrailia tour called Farewell 1 Tour. That was in 2004 and featured 4 of the 5, with Joe again being up to the task. They are a fine, fine group indeed, and just dig the heck out of their tunes.

I've got so many favorites - but one that I'd go a long way to listen to is the "Littlle River Band" - only with the originals of course. They used to swing through St. Louis each summer and we never missed a concert. Great songs - great lyrics and marvelous performers. During their brief breakup, they somehow weren't the same. Once Glenn Shorrock returned, all was well again. The heart and soul of that group, in my opinion, belongs to Wayne Nelson (a 2nd generation member) and Stephen Housedon (an original I believe).

Well, compared to my outings with the Boyz up at the Can-Am Gorge, your weekends in the woods rival none. Next time you go, let me know .... I'd enjoy comin' along! [swg]

Thanx for the great Post and of course, contiunuing on as a Regular 'round here. Of course, being on the payroll helps a bit, eh [?]

Thanx for the round! [tup]

Okay - Leon the Night Man has arrived ...... so it's time to bid adieu.

Nite! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[nickinwestwales]

WELLLLL.........HELLO DOLLY,YEAH HELLO DOLLY,IT`S SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK WHERE YOU BELONG....yeah-Boris seems better for his trip up the mountain.....!--Good evening [4:-)]TOM & fellow tipplers,glad to see we`ve survived another weekend-unlike many of the fixtures and fittings,-judging from the time of my last posting,I must have walked right through the middle of that-could well explain some of the bruising....Right,beer first then idle chit-chat,a pair of those Ice-cold bottles of Staropramen from the back fridge for me,and if you`ll excuse the liberty of a suggestion,how about a bottle (U.K.pint ) of Shepeard Neame "Spitfire"for yourself-a full-strength, fairly light coloured Kentish Ale-drink with caution,about 6/7% if memory serves-enjoy...[^]..Right,a genuine attempt to answer post before I collapse into Ga-Ga land and start typing gibberish............WEST COAST DAVE-Welcome home,nice one on th S.P & C & A,also stuff on S.D.24`s-all new to me[tup].WOLFMAN PETE-thanks for kind thoughts regarding "Prize" weekend---stay tuned---will check out Bilston Shay-what do we know..?-gauge ? Time in operation ? Ever mentioned in local press ? Access to Company records ?......helps to narrow parameters.......on case and raring to go...[^]...RUSSELL-nice shots of C.N.cars but loved the K.C.S Covered Wagon-by ***,those colours DO work,against all reason-what did their road switchers look like ?.........BIG AL-Welcome home my man-your input has been missed..............MANAGER TED-What Ho !-quite take your point R.E. Baby`s head-wetting--imagine it dates back to time when survival of both Mother & Child was for cause of celebration in itself, now more representative of the new father`s last chance to get pi**ed out of his head (tick box ),start a fight (tick box ),hand out cheap and horrible cigars to complete stangers (tick box ) and score with the barmaid ( box not ticked ) and then be carried home by his closest friends............[4:-)]TOM-another pair of bottles if you please,tis thirsty work this-and the same for yourself,no,really you need to try a second one to appreciate the flavour.[tup].-now Sunday Slideshow-a brilliant idea-not only because it gives you a much-needed night off, but also for the hint of `50`s style "gathering `round the set" for whatever family viewing was going on then,-right,next scribble on my note page-ah yes -Display cases,-I am several unwholesome shades of envious,despite my best attempts at regaining Buddhist inner peace, A Magnificent collection-they deserve to stretch thier legs...............One favour only,could you restore the Ontario Northland "progressive " scheme 40` box (pic 5) to service as the "Our Place" kitchen dry stores car-The track gang have agreed to work a weekend for beer & food only to cut in a 100` spur behind the bar so we can have the beer & meat reefer eased in as well and save all those long delays when Boris has to be sent out & about foraging. Glad to hear you are a fan of the Appalachian region-I`m a huge fan of the music,mandolins,hammer dulcimers,banjo`s & fiddles...lots of the tunes are unchanged from when they came over from the old countries back in the day,and in many cases have been lost over here...living history,speaking of music,glad you enjoyed the Eagles show-did they have Joe Walsh playing guitar ?-for my money,without him-only half a show, a fine player. Well,I`ve delayed enough,I`m sure you are all dying to hear about my prize-winning weekend with the beast of the Carpathians & Herman Munster`s ugly cousin-Well.my initial plan-to lock them both in the cabin and pitch a tent outside and take my chance with the wildlife suffered an early reversal when we unloaded the large crate from the back of the taxi and it proved to contain Leon`s Chrome-plated A.K.47`s,Magnum handguns and even more worryingly,Boris`s prefered fowling piece, the seven-barelled,.85 calibre muzzle-loading Rhino gun-any less well armored target will be reduced to a faint pink mist above a scorched wedge of earth--Took the obvious choice and locked them out and me in and am happy to report that the weekends "bag" includes:- 4 moose,2 deer, a balderdash,a rangers truck,numerous skunk,bits of several otters,a Poli***ourist on a walking holiday, and a confirmed hit on a Swiss Navy helicopter--no birds have been seen in the sky for several days now , and the beasts walk lightly upon the field--ENOUGH...! moonlight mile for me,take care one & all-nick[C=:-)]

[Anonymous]

Hi Tom and welcome back BudKarr, a "round" all around and a Anisette "straight up" for me, please. That should settle my slight indegestion from dinner. Hey Barndad, thanks for the latest pics.[tup] I'm interested in seeing how M-35 progresses. Is the Roi engine a diesel? That would explain the missing louveres (air intake) from the center third of the front bulkhead.[#oops] OUCH, I hate it when that happens.[:O] Will the Zephyr repair come totally from IRM budget or is insurance involved? Trainnut 484, yeah from that distance, it looked possible. That is what too much imagination will do.[:I] In fact, I thought the brick building in the background actually was the old REA loading docks. Surely, that has been "history" for years? Wouldn't the old Post Office Building be close by?

I thought I had best "pitch in" even if I'm a little late arriving. I guess all of us can recall some of the crew members from that "special train" through the years. I had several encounters which I'll cover at a later Post. For now, a bartender on the Pennsy comes to mind on the D.C. to New York leg. He was always polishing the crystal shells and singing (in a low voice) a tune no one could quite identify. I was in uniform and every other drink was "on the house." Needless to say, I left a generous tip every trip. Thanks for bringing that aspect of classic train travel up BudKarr.

Okay, I'm outta here for now. Hope to see you "Regulars" more often as we head into Fall and cooler weather. So long for now.

[Trainnut484]

Evening Tom and all. I'll have a Miller Lite.

Ted, those black trucks in my pic are not REA. Kinda resemble them though.

Please forgive my misplacement of manners [#welcome][#welcome] BudKarr to OUR Place. Glad you're getting the feel of the place [:D].

Gotta go for now.

Russell

[BudKarr]

I'll have a cold bottle of Coors Light, please, barkeep! Make that two .... I've got a thirst, maybe one of those great big sandwiches you advertise too. That should be fine, thank you.

Must say that those reflections back in time of the passenger railroads no longer in operation brought back some vivid recollections. I know about some of those roads and traveled them from time to time. For me and my time, the travel aboard passenger trains was centered about the experience of riding the trains, rather than simply getting from place to place. The latter was a given - it was the on board service that made all the difference - and let me tell you, there were many people who made the travel worth the while.

Had a friend who worked as a Pullman Porter for years and years. Let's just call him Jim, which was his first name. He was a gentle soul and perfect in temperment and disposition for the job at hand. His interactions with the traveling public, I believe, were the most positive ever witnessed on the part of any rail employee I've had the pleasure - or displeasure - of meeting. Jim had a gleam in his eye - a smile on his broad face - and a calming tone that sent a message to the listener: Listen - this guy knows what he's talking about and will take care of whatever needs attending to. That was Jim. He's gone now, but not for those of us who knew him.

I liked that segment Tom put out on the CNR - trully a road that took a back seat to CPR in the hey day of passenger rail in Canada. However, a finely tuned operation with just a bit of difference to make it a special experience. Somewhere in my reading of these pages, one of your customers traveled the CNR across Canada. Maybe he will reiterate some of the highlights now that Tom has come up with his Fallen Flag idea.

I'll have another one .... then back to what I have to do.

BK

[siberianmo]

Hi barndad Doug

[wow] Don't be too hard on yourself - 'puter problems and Gremlins get to all of us now 'n then! Have on on me ... [swg] [#welcome] Back!

Very interesting pix .... and I hope that when you get through the pages that have amassed since your last visit, you'll find some things of interest from us as well! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Hi Tom and all my friends. I'll take a cantalope and some ground glass. Sorry I haven't been around, but my broadband connection bit the dust, so I got it replaced with cable!
Big doings at the IRM. I have temporarily jumped ship on the steam department, and am now needle chipping, sanding and wire brushing to my hearts content in the diesl department. And guess what happens to be right next to the U-boat I'm working on??? ....... A Doodlebug! See my pics at: http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dougsecrist?page=2
I'll go in to more detail on the museum thread later.
Take a gander at the car damage to two of the consist on our Nebraska Zephyr. Apparantly, the train was being backed-up, and hung on a closed spring switch ... and jack-knifed! The Zephyr was supposed to be in Chicago was a movie shoot, but now it can't go. I've heard damaged estimates near $130,000.
Take care for now, I've got a ton of Summary reading to do to get caught up!

[siberianmo]

Hello Chris

Nice seeing you again and hope all is well. I was wonderin' ..........

CNR IS a Fallen Flag in the context we are using - Passenger Railroads from the days of Classic Trains! Tsk - tsk - surely thought a Barrister would've known that! [swg]

Glad you are enjoying these ... that's what they are intended for!

See ya and next time you plan on disappearing - you'll need a "liberty card!" [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

More on the Canadian National Railways of the Fallen Flags from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956

Canadian National Railways

Canadian National

Super Continental - Dieselized all the way

Faster daily service between

MONTREAL - OTTAWA - TORONTO - WINNIPEG - SASKATOON - EDMONTON - JASPER - VANCOUVER

No Extra Fare

Westward - Read down ..................................................Eastward - Read up
Example..........Daily ......................................................... Daily .........Example

Sunday............4 00 P.M. ..... Lv. Montreal ... E.T. .. Ar. ...5 05 P.M. .... Wednesday
Sunday............6 00 P.M. .... Ar. Ottawa........E.T....Lv......3 05 P.M. .....Wednesday
Sunday............6 10 P.M. .... Lv Ottawa.........E.T. ..Ar. ....2 50 P.M. .... Wednesday

Sunday............6 00 P.M. .... Lv. Toronto.......E.T. ..Ar. .....2 15 P.M. ... Wednesday

Monday..........10 25 P.M. ....Ar. Winnipeg.....C.T. ..Lv. .....8 20 A.M. ... Tuesday
Monday..........10 50 P.M. ... Lv. Winnipeg.....C.T. ..Ar. ....7:55 A.M. .... Tuesday
Tuesday......... 8 00 A.M. ... Ar. Saskatoon....M.T. ..Lv. ....8 50 P.M. ... Monday
Tuesday..........8 10 A.M. ....Lv. Saskatoon....M.T. ..Ar. ....8 40 P.M. ... Monday
Tuesday..........3 10 P.M. ...Ar. Edmonton......M.T. ..Lv. ...1 50 P.M. .... Monday
Tuesday..........3 25 P.M. ...Lv. Edmonton......M.T. ..Ar. ...1 35 P.M. .... Monday
Tuesday..........8:55 P.M. ...Ar. Jasper............P.T. ..Lv. ...8 15 A.M. .....Monday
Tuesday..........8 05 P.M. ...Lv. Jasper............P.T. ..Ar. .. 7 05 A.M. .....Monday
Wednesday....1 05 P.M. ....Ar. Vancouver .... P.T. ..Lv. .. 2 45 P.M. .... Sunday

Through deluxe coaches with reclining seats betwen Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver.
Parlor Car between Montreal and Ottawa only.
Dining Room Refreshment Lounge Car between Toronto and Winnipeg.
Coffee Shop Car between Toronto-Capreol.
............................... between Montreal-Vancouver (until May 31).
............................... between Winnipeg-Vancouver (first trip June 2).
Dining Car between Winnipeg and Vancouver.
Tourist Sleepiong Cars between Montreal-Toronto and Vancouver.
Drawing room, compartment, double bedrooms, duplex roomette, lower and upper berth accommodation available in latest type standard sleepers between Montreal-Toronto and Vancouver.
Attractive lounge accommodation for standard sleeping car passengers.

NOTE: Perhaps our Canadian friends can elaborate on what appears to be discrepancies with the time zones. In current times, Saskatoon is on Central Time and Jasper is Mountain Time. Don't know why in 1956 the time zones were listed this way ... Perhaps the zone maps were different back then. Anyone know [?]

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[CFournier]

Hello TOM and the crew...
Cup of columbian svp.
Hello Tom, I see you are online now. Those fallen flags reports are fun and instructive. But you think CNR is a fallen flag???[?][:0]
I spent much time this morning reading 4 or 5 pages of discussions for the last few days. I was away at the ST-Tite rodeo with my son. I got to work now, see you later.
[:)][C):-)]CHRIS

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Canadian National Railways

Headquarters: Montreal, Quebec

Mileage as of 1955: 24,220

Locomotives as of 1963:

Steam: 0
Diesel: 2,125
Electric: 27

Rolling stock in 1963: Freight cars– 105,177 Passenger cars: 2,808

Principal routes in 1955:

Halifax, NS-Montreal, QC (two routes)
Halifax-Sydney, NS
St. John’s-Port aux Basques, NL (42” gauge)
Montreal-Portland, ME (via subsidiary Grand Trunk Railway in U.S.)
Montreal-New London, CT (via subsidiary Central Vermont in U.S.)
Quebec City-Montreal-Toronto-Windsor & Sarnia, ON-Detroit, MI & Chicago (via subsidiary GTW in U.S.)
Toronto-North Bay, ON
Toronto-Niagara Falls, ON
Quebec City-Winnipeg, MB
Montreal-Winnipeg
Winnipeg-Churchill, MB
Winnipeg-Duluth, MN (via subsidiary Duluth, Winnipeg & Pacific in U.S.)
Winnipeg-Vancouver, BC
Winnipeg-Regina, SK
Saskatoon, SK-Calgary, AB
Calgary-Edmonton, AB
Jasper, AB-Prince Rupert, BC

Passenger trains of note in 1955:

Super Continental (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Continental Limited (Montreal & Toronto-Vancouver)
Ocean Limited (Montreal-Halifax)
Scotian (Montreal-Halifax)
Caribou (St. John’s-Port aux Basques)
International Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Chicago)
Inter-City Limited (Montreal-Toronto-Detroit & Chicago)
Northland (Toronto-North Bay & Timmins & Kapuskasing, ON)
Maple Leaf (Toronto-Philadelphia & New York City)
Montrealer & Washingtonian (Montreal-New York City-Washington, DC)
Ambassador (Montreal-Boston)
Gull (Boston-Portland, ME-Saint John, NB-Halifax)

Of note:
Montreal & Toronto-Chicago route with GTW Detroit & Port Huron-Chicago.
Toronto-Philadelphia & New York route with Lehigh Valley, Niagara Falls, NY-New York City.
Montreal-New York City & Boston & Washington route with CV, B&M, NH and PRR.
Halifax-Boston route with CP, Maine Central and B&M.
Toronto-Timmins & Kapuskasing route with Ontario Northland Railway.

Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

G'day West Coast S Dave

Thanx for the kind words! [tup] It's a labor of love kinda thing that we all engage in 'round here. The fun part is knowing that the majority who take in this thread, appreciate, enjoy and paricipate in the goings one. [tup]

I've got 'nother Fallen Flag coming up .... stay tuned!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]