QUOTE: coalminer3 Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 12:28:39 Coffee to go, please. Note to passengerfan. Let me know what kind of info. you are hunting for. I bet with the regional coverage provided by our "regulars" and other visitors, we can come up with just about anything. One facet of passenger service that has always interested me is some of the "long way around" interline services provided by large carriers. I just happened to find a February 10, 1942 PRR timetable in the "stack of stuff," and will provide an example. Table "M" in this humongous tt covers interline service via the PRR and N&W between Chicago and Norfolk. I am sure back then that this line carried a ton of military traffic. Anyway, the traveler had two through trains each way. Here are the consists: Train 200 "Southland" 10 section lounge car: Chicago-Norfolk 8 section/buffet lounge: Chicago-Cincinnati 10 rtte/5 db: Chicago-Cincinnati 12 section/drawing room: Chicago-Springfield (In PRR 204 from Richmond) 10 rtte/5db: Chicago -Dayton Coach: Chicago-Cincinnati Train 200 departed Chicago at 11:40 p.m. with a 7:30 a.m. arrival in Cincinnati. The connecting N&W train departed Cincinnati at 11:40 a.m. with a 7:15 a.m. arrival in Norfolk. Train 208, the Union was the second Chicago-Norfolk service. This had a 10 section/lounge Chicago-Norfolk sleeper and a 10 section/3 db sleeper Cincinnati -Winston Salem (an interesting car plan when you think abt it) A parlor car operated between Chicago and Columbus, a diner longe between Chicago and Cinccinnati. and coaches between Chicago, and Columbus, Cincinnati, and Norfolk Returning, PRR 215 was the "Chicago Daylight Express." It handled the Norfolk-Chicago and Winston-Salem-Cincinnati cars, along with a diner/lounge and coaches. Train 201, the "Southland" handled a lounge sleepers and a coach between Cincinnati and Chicago. One of the sleepers ran out of Cincinnati and the others were picked up en route at Springfield and Dayton. The Springfield and Dayton cars were switched out to PRR 203 at Richmond Train 237-109, the "Chicago Night Express" provided connecting service from the N&W at Cincinnati. It handled a 10 section/lounge car en route from Norfolk. The interesting part abt. this is all of the short cars that were handled on these trains and the set outs and pickups that were involved; this is something a lot of people forget when they look at passenger service: Pullmans went to a lot of place. Now let's close with a fine piece of advertising copy (most folks know I am an NYC follower, but the Great Tuscan Father is not to be ignored...) IN AND OUT OF WASHINGTON - VIA PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD'S ALL-WEATHER FLEET Take it from Chicago-There's a fleet of 5 every day - paced by the popular luxury leader, Liberty Limited, offering a complete range of Pullman accommodations as well as reclining seat coaches. For travel luxury at low coach fares-The Trail Blazer carries through Washington coaches And from St. Louis - Four fine trains daily to Washington-the all-Pullman Spirit of St. Louism the luxury all-coach Jeffersonian, the American, and Pennsylvania Limited. From Cleveland - The Clevelander Akron - The Akronite Detroit - The Red Arrow Buffalo - The Dominon Express Washington-New York: 40 all-electric trains daily, led by The Congressional (226 miles in 215 minutes) Washington-New England-Eastern Canada A fine fleet daily, through without change via the Hell Gate Bridge Well, that's enough nostalgia for now, but it was too good not to post. Happy birthday and andjoy the celebration. I trust all of the fire extinguishers have been checked and certified. work safe
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 13:34:09 G'day coalminer3 and thanx for labor you put forth in your last post. Sure brings back some thoughts of those wonderful times for those who used the passenger trains of America. I have a well used edition of The Official Guide of ther Railways and Steam Navigation Lines of the Unites States - Puerto Rico - Canada - Mexico and Cuba. Mine is the August 1956 edition of the monthly publication. Within its pages one can easily find themselves immersed in nostalgia beyond belief. The advertisements alone a worth whatever this book cost my son at a flea market sale. For example, full page ads for the Pennsylvania Railroad, New York Central System, Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway for openers. The steamship companies like the Grace Line - Waterman - Lykes Line and Moore-McCormack representative of the days when the USA had many, many flag vessels along with a huge Merchant Marine. Pages and pages of airline schedules for companies long gone, Eastern Air Lines - National Airlines - Colonial Airlines - Trans-Canada Airlines and Trans World Airlines are but a few. But, the fun of browsing this publication is to imagine putting together a passenger rail itinerary - from wherever to nearly anywhere. I like to recreate trips that I made back then, or to come up with routes for others I would have dearly loved to have taken. Goes on and on ...... I gather we won't be seeing you at this evening's Birthday Bash for earlydiesels Dan - well, I'm sure he'll catch your well wishes! Enjoy the weekend and thanx again for your continuing contributions to "Our" Place Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 17:32:15 earlydiesels Dan Party Time at "Our" Place Let the Birthday Bash begin! We've got the full staff here tonight - EXCEPT for Boris, he's got the night off thanx to Nick and his wise anticipation ........ I see the pool tables are being used - Juke is blaring away - movies on all three large screen TV's - ALL the gals are working tonight - Can-Am track gang is here - Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary along with his new found friend, Mr. Dolye, Private Investigator are providing security - so sit back, relax and let earlydiesels Dan know you are here! We expect to see Dan and Nick live at around 7 PM CDST! So, whatillyahave Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 18:14:29 Morning all, <its real almost 1700 here but thats when I get up on work days, I work from 2200 till 800> Menu suggestion >Breakfast Burritos< Want Red Chilii and eggs n carne adovada< Finally got my photo link set up <actually 1 day is excellent turnaround time> So here is A pic of our "War Baby" http://www.railimages.com/albums/kevinevans/aaa.jpg Thanks for the info on the El Pasoan, All I really knew about it was that the 2926 hauled it as it's last revanue run in the 50s. As soon I can peel the photos out of the camera I'll put up the pix I took in Santa Fe Yesterday <of the 5030 a texas 2-10-4 made in 1944> sadly the Builders Plate and Boiler data plate were missing on that Locomotive also. I did however get some shots of the boiler shell where the had removed the lagging, and the pitting damage was much lower than expected. This is good as our engine 2926 was stored in Albuqurque in a much drier climate than Santa Fe. No suds for now, <8 hr rule dont ya know......> but a snack and coffie would do. and >>>HAPPY Geburtstdag<<<<< earlydiesels Dan Gunns
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 18:56:39 Hey Tom, set em up for the house if you will with a large brandy chaser for the birthday boy.... just slipping through to the kitchen to fire up the stove and catch up on some post, see you in a bit,nick
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 18:59:19 Good Evening Gunns Somewhere 'round here is the coffee urn - I'm sure we'll find it in amongst all the Party stuff...... We kinda like the light breakfast fare, but, should you become a regular breakfast customer I'm sure when Boris returns, he'll fix you right up with your hot choices ....... That was one quick turn around with the photo album ... took me about 72 hours go get up and running .... good deal. Interesting photo ... Gotta get back to the bar ...... Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:05:56 Hey Nick Really appreciate your staying up so late to join us in the Party for earlydiesels Dan - In case you haven't heard - open bar this fine night! Cindy is waiting for YOU back in the kitchen! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:07:17 Hello everyone! A cold one to get me primed for the corned beef and cabbage! Then another one to wash down the bad email I just read. But hey- this is a celebration! Let's enjoy the entertainment that has been arranged and watch these one classic movies!
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:16:21 Aha -I see the birthday boy has joined us, welcome Dan- hope your having a good one so far,pull up a waitress & relax,the beers are set up,the food will be ready by the time you`ve taken the bite off of your thirst and if the music gets much louder we`ll be losing roof tiles--ENJOY !!!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:16:46 Hey Dan to you - 43 and counting! Put aside any bad thoughts and join the gang in celebration of YOUR day! Nick is in the kitchen - I'd be a bit careful about just walking in on him - Cindy may be getting some OJT, since it's her first time back there! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:18:57 Hey Nick What's the point in having the Juke blaring away along with the 3 large screen TV's and the din of the crowd in here And where did that live band come from West Wales is my guess! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:23:46 Hillbillies A guy walks into a bar in West Virginia and orders a white wine. All the hillbillies sitting around the bar look up, expecting to see some pitiful Yankee from the north. The bartender says, "You ain't from around here, are ya?" The guy says, "No, I'm from Canada." The bartender says, "What do you do in Canada?" The guy says, "I'm a taxidermist." The bartender says, "A taxidermist? What in tarnation is a taxidermist? Do you drive a taxi?" "No, a taxidermist doesn't drive a taxi. I mount animals." The bartender grins and hollers, "It's okay boys. He's one of us." Party on! Tom
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:26:53 Hey Tom-that Cindy is some gal -- I may be some time,nick
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:28:52 Well Nick better watch it - she's a teacher at the all female unviersity up the road and no doubt whatever it is you are learning, there WILL be an exam! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:42:45 Hey, I' m needing a water after the brandy. I've never imbided that spirit before. The loudness doesn't faze me. Too many years of loud rock n roll, small arm and artillery fire, and now loco horns means I'm half deaf. It does seem a bit darker in here than usual, though. I will not walk in the kitchen-do not want to interrupt any OJT! Tom, if the law is already here, does that mean their compatriots will not raid OUR PLACE for excessive noise and rowdiness??
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:44:36 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) - April 18 (Al - 63) - May 18th (Tom - 67) – May 27th (Dave – 46- June 24th (Dan - 43) - July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34) Party on! Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:46:11 Hey Just Made it under the wire . Well Happy Birthday Dan and lets set up a round for the regulars lets make that a round for the house. Can't help wondering if anyone has heard from Chris . He was supposed to get out of the hospital on tuesday and haven't heard anything since. How about a toast to his good health. Maybe he will send birthday greetings to Dan and we can all stop wondering. I think maybe a round or two of pool is just what I need this evening. Promised better half I would watch calorie intake this evening (what she doesn't know won't hurt her will it? ) Only chance I get to lose diet is when better half lets me go by myself. Maybe we can firm up the four day plan for Toronto next May soon.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:47:57 Dan When the law is here - we ARE the law! This village only has one squad car and it's parked along side "Our" Place Dark in here Hmmmmm - you may want to take off those sun glasses! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:55:12 passengerfan Al Glad you got away from work for a bit and stopped by .... No word from Chris - not by Email either. Have to keep thinking positive .. Diet we can help out on that ... try some of this diet Crown Royal ... trust me, low cal all the way First time I've noticed you mention our Rendezvous in Toronto. In case you've missed the info - the next update will be this coming Monday .... check it out. Party hardy! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 19:58:51 About those sunglasses, I took someone's earlier suggestion to heart about grabbing a waitress and she knocked them off! I need to hear some Hank Snow train songs but I am engaged in the 3 big screens going at once. BTW, when is the girl popping out of the birthdhay cake supposetdd to arrive? Another cold draught, please.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 20:03:26 Dan Cakes and the likes are the responsibilities of Chief Chef Nick I'd be careful about what you wish for ....... By the by, we've got all kinds of Hank Snow songs - but I seriously doubt whether anyone could hear them over this noise ...... Now, grabbing the gals is something you may want to rethink ... they ARE lethal weapons, these gals of ours! Have another! Tom
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 20:08:52 This is Mrs. earlydiesels! So, Thanks for having a birthday party for him!! I must warn you, he ADORES REDHEADS!!! Don't get him too plastered, or he won't be any use to me tomorrow! Lol
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 20:21:20 Hoooooooo boy! Now you tell us! Well, one of our gals just happens to be a drop dead Redhead Ruthie is her name and she's ..... well, let's just say, she's .... guess there just isn't any delicate way to put this...... Dan, perhaps you should rethink that offer! Thanks for popping in, Mrs. earlydiesels - make yourself comfortable and join the frayparty Tom!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 20:33:27 Looks like the regulars have settled in - movies are still going strong - Juke is tied to the deck from the bouncing and vibes it has taken - all the booths and tables are jammed - bar is hoppin', so best I can say at this point is: Party 'til you drop My guess is that Nick took Cindy to West Wales for the remainder of the night/early AM ..... really appreciate him coming on board for kitchen duty! We close when the last man can no longer stand ...... Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 24 Jun 2005, 22:09:36 Okay guys - I've been logged on continuously since 5:30 PM CDST - it's now 10 PM and time to get Juneau out for his last go before bed .... Don't worry, one of the gals will handle the bar 'til closing time .... Again, earlydiesels Dan and many more! See ya! Tom
QUOTE: trolleyboyPosted: 25 June 2005, 00:34:30 Hey happy Dan sorry I missed the biggest piece of the party but was called away for a slight emergency down home. I'll stay here and clean up as pennance. That way Nick and Cindy can relax. I let the local out of his shed to help sort through the war zone bar room. We should have it mostly ship shape by morning. It's a good thing that Boris is basically nocturnal by nature. Enjoy the rest of the bash Dan. I've taken the liberty of paying a Canam fare home for you.First class all the way Rob
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 25 June 2005, 01:10:48 Tom I am slow on the uptake sometimes maybe not enough of hat diet Crown Royal. But have been thinking about Toronto a great deal. My daughter lives in Barrie and will give me a chance to kill two birds with one stone. It will give me a chance to see my grand daughter Cass who is four and never mean't her grandfather yet. Wiil check into possible trip by rail from California to Vancouver and Canadian from Vancouver to Toronto. Will find a rail route home as well via US maybe fly to New York then rail from to Chicago and California Zephyr to Sacramento.
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 25 June 2005, 01:22:14 Checking in from work, Apfelsaftschorle bitte, <50/50 mix of apple juice and fizzy mineral water> Done my first set of rounds, and am settling in for my watch. After work I'm headed back to the Oven, opps the lathe shop, I need to finish up the rivet set so the crew can finish up the foot plates on the tender. Not a hard job, turn to shape, heat treat to hardness, polish a side then draw it back to something that wont shatter the first time they put it in the rivet gun. <I figure second straw or blue> We are looking for another "Shop Folio" we have AT&SFs folio #1 for the 2900 series, but it turns out there is another volume, if any one has an Idea where to find it let me know. Aso we have a complete set of drawings for the 2926, gonna put them on a CD-Rom, and sell them at meets. It won’t pay for the restoration but it might keep us operating <G> "lunch" in 2 hours, let me know what the night chief has on the menu. Gunns
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