QUOTE: Originally posted by Theodorebear There is another 4-8-4 (Frisco) on display at Mohawk Park in Tulsa, Ok. It headed "The Meteor" in its day.
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo For: Theodorebear Ted There was a time that Amtrak used to run close to on time between St. Louis and KCity - [yeah] no kidding. Anyway, my turn arounds used to provide about 2 1/2 hours for browsing and eating at the Center. No more. Last time I took a day trip, which was this past Spring - I never left the train. We were so late getting in, that the Conductor said, "No point in getting off, we're loading up and off we go."
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 10:12:06 Mornin' everybody, its now twixt' and "tween breakfast and lunch, so how about a wedge of that Dutch crumb coffee cake and a cup of hot Joe Tom? Russell and Rob: "You've got mail." Wow ***, I hope it is easier leaving Libia than entering...regards to the "General." [Think "I'd rather be fishin!"] Al, Sorry I came up with a big "Zip" on LRC, Tom's angle is probably the most sensible. A quick "footnote" to my road trip (Ft. Meade, Md)- -I couldn't depart the area without leaving a small gratuity in the Baltimore Trolley Museum "hope chest." Yes, it is bigger and better than ever. Sure glad I was driving (not walking) in the neighborhood though. If any of you gents ever hop off an Amtrak in "Balto," its just around the corner, so please don't miss it. Couldn't do the B & O shed this trip. My esteemed colleagues were more interested in glitzy Harbor Place (upholstered tourist's toilet). No matter, I've got plans for a future "railroading only" trek. Its great to have a kindred soul from the Midwest among this worthy consortium in the personage of "Trainnut 484" (Russell). Prejudice? Who, me? Speaking of "4-8-4," is it just me, or is the Northern Class a particular favorite among Parks here and in Canada? Oh oh, I see "I've got mail" and from "one of own." Please excuse me for just a "mo," while I dispatch the business at hand. Shall return a.s.a.p., hopefully, with more substance than sauce. Happy Tuesday all, Oh Tom, Boris may fini***he pastry if he wishes...probably will anyhow. TED
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 10:26:15 Ahh at last a bier... <it's my weekend> ----------------------------------- QUOTE: Originally posted by trolleyboy <snip> I'd go for a transfer table to shuttle stuff back and forth as well. Of coarse if price is no option build a full size ten stall brick roundhouse complete with turntable and boiler room <snip again> Rob ------------------------------------- The old Barellas shops are here but are being developed in to a convention center.... 31 tracks through 5 buildings and a transfer table.... <Sigh> Sadly it is all tied up in court the developer is tring to force out the Wheels Museum crew and doesn’t even want to let them have a space on site, <check out the News sections at their site> http://www.wheelsmuseum.org/ However, the turn table that served the Albuquerque Round house is still in existence and the BNSF maintains and uses it so it will be available to us, the round house is gone though. We are getting a light rail setup here in ABQ and there is some speculation that we thr NMSL&RHS will be allowed to have our shops attached to the maint. facility for it. Lotsa "ifs" though... Other news, work day tomorrow, and I am in the process of rebuilding my Machinests tool box, <my original box and stuff were given away over the years of moving in the Army...> I am in the midst of some hefty sticker shock, 15 bucks for a center gauge!, 33 more for a pair of dividers!!, time to dust off my tool making skills and make my own!!! Any way here is my list of rock bottom needed tools, A set of vernier calipers, a dial indicator with mount, a set of dividers, and a center gauge. Oh yes and a deciial equivalent that with the drill/tap info on it. I have all of them except the dividers, and I can knock out a set of them today. Yesterday was the June B day fest, 4 of them so we went out to a Chuhasqueria <Brazilian BBQ> Kind of an all you can eat steak house, where the waiters come around with the meat on swords and they keep serving till ya burst, 18 kinds of meat, roast pineapple, black beans and rice, and a good salad bar. And..... Guarnanana the most highly naturally caffeinated beverage in existence....... But for here and now I'll have the "special" Thanks all Gunns
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 10:29:41 Morning everyone. Coffee and a Dani***oday I think Tom ( see I remembered to order today lol ) Ted Message received thanks and I've sent a smoke signal response to you. Al I had / have one other thought on your LRC dilemma. If my foggy memory serves 1983 was the official start running day in Canada for the LRC sets. They were run in break ins here and there earlier. Check the Bytown society in Ottawa. The Canadian trackside guide that they publish yearly should list all the existing LRC equipment along with the vital stats. http://www.bytownrailwaysociety.ca/ They publi***he branchline magazine as well which will tell of retirements wrecks etc as well. Good bunch of guys to deal with. Hope this helps you. Well I'm off and running like a herd of turtles Catch you fine people later. Rob
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 10:43:27 Gunn's I think you need to make friends with the local Snapon tool guy. Ouch tool prices have gotten out of control. BTW that beverage sounds down right dangerous does it come with a warning label? Being attached to the light rail shops may not be a bad thing think of all the electricity you will have available to you. I hope the wheels museum gets a fair settlement. You hate to see any museum's displaced. Ted I've been considering a trip to the Balt streetcar museum and the B&O museum. Heather's not been to either. Maybe we'll talk and meet up with you there. Keep cool everyone it's not fit for man nor beast out their today. Speaking of beasts I gave Boris more water we wouldn't want him to get heat stroke. Take care all. Rob
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 11:57:01 For: Theodorebear Ted Go easy on the cake - we've got some real specials for lunch today . Aside from our super sized and super tasty sandwiches (grinders/subs/hoagies/hero's), there's fresh sea food salad with lobster, crab, tuna and salmon. Came in this AM when the Can-Am Express stopped by from the City. All iced up and ready to go ..... I spent several portions of the summers in Baltimore back in the 1940's. My father shipped out of there on freighters and we used to stay with friends in an area today where one would need an armed guard in the day light! Times and things do change. I can remember diving off the United Fruit Company pier into Baltimore Harbor back then ....... and, I'm still alive to speak about it! Recall that Baltimore was a great railroad and trolley center. Rode the B&O or Pennsy down from NYC in those days - heavyweights, of course. Hotter than the shades of Hades in those cars, but that's just the way it was. Good memories. Never got around to visiting the museums, but one day that will happen. I have a son who lives in northern VA, outside of WashDC - so perhaps a day or two trip to Baltimore will be in order next time we set out to visit the grand kids. Boris needs sugar the way a Satyr needs Viagra! No,Boris - Danish bad, lima beans good! I'm planning a round trip to KCity within the next couple of weeks - just a day trip. Gotta get moving on it while the MO Amtrak still operates ....... just a matter of time until the plug gets pulled 'round these parts. And, do you REALLY think anyone gives a rat's patoot about QUOTE: formerly known as "Bobfarkus" Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 12:01:59 For: Gunns Can't think of a better place to spend your weekend other than right here in "Our" Place ......... Specials are right over there on the buffet table - help yourself! Just got a delivery of some German bier - take your pick: * Altbier (old beer) * Berliner Weisse (Berlin wheat beer) * Bock (strong lager) * Dortmunder Export * Dunkel (dark beers) * Gose (a distinctive Leipzig style) * Hefeweizen (Bavarian wheat beer) * Kristallweizen (filtered Bavarian wheat beer) * Kölsch (Koelsch) (a very pale ale from Cologne/Köln) * Märzen (Bavarian "March Beer" — the original Oktoberfest beer) * Münchner Helles (Munich light lager) * Pils (AKA Pilsner or Pilsener) * Sticke (strong altbier) * Rauchbier (smoke beer) Enjoy! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 12:11:19 For: Rob - Haven't seen you around here at this time of the day for awhile .... stick around for lunch (explained above) - the Special is fantastic! Baltimore (see comments above) could be a great place for a get together. Perhaps a wee bit on the expensive side, depending on time of year. That Inner Harbor draws lots of tourists willing to pay the big bucks for the limited hotel space in and around downtown. Nevertheless, I've always enjoyed visiting there too, just haven't made the time for the museums .... Oh Boris and water is like a match to a flame - he thinks that anything wet is to take your clothes off and jump into/onto. Be careful! Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 14:57:13 Kolch Bitte, Ahhhhh Your bier list reminded me of my psuedo rail fan trips in Germany, Remember that mass market beer is rare in Germany, with each town having its own local brewery. any way the trip runs like this, Get up, get outta the barracks, go down to the Bamhof, get a round trip ticket to any where... jump on the train, then each time it stops, get off and wait for the next train, >>>In the Gasthaus trying the LOCAL bier<<<< Man, I had some fun doing that, plus talking to train crews in my horrid German, people watching etc.... some trips I don’t remember the end of But I always made it back to base. Gunns BTW there is a bier in Essen that is called Funk Alt Bier...... <Spark Ale> <G>
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:09:25 Hello everyone. I'll take something very cold. It's only late June and already I hate summer. Of course, I hate hot weather anyway. Glad to have you around, Gunn. I always like to hear from others in the preservation field. 4-8-4s seem to be quite popular stuffed and mounted. I am one of several caretakers of a Frisco northern here in Spfld. About May of last year before our southend was officially opened, a railfan from Baltimore came and rode our rr. He was a volunteer at the B&O museum and we corresponded for a while. I have been to Baltimore but was driving truck so no time for tourism. Now I would like to go to play tourist and see all the rr sites.
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:30:17 Another Kosh Bitte, I know what you mean earlydiesels, I found this page on the SBRHS site, http://www.sbrhs.org/484com.html I guess that the big 4-8-4s were the glamour girls, and the railroads <at least the shops> hated to see them cut up for scrap. Our Loco hauled The Scout and The Chief in it's day, and was noted for its low operating costs. BNSF has said that they consider the North South corridor in NM an Ideal venue for Guest steamers so we will at least be able to run. And who knows maybe in 6 or 7 years I'll be able to invite Ya'll to a Rendezvous here. Sleeper cars and hot chillies....... Thx for the sandwich, Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:31:41 For: Gunns I spent a short time in Germany many years ago - drove down from Lubeck to Munich and stopped at many local villages along the way - took about 4 days or so. Had a blast. Know all about those local biers and bier gartens! Got mighty drunk out in those days ..... as I said, many years ago. Spent some time in the Alps - then checked in the car and took the train from Ulm to Paris (spent a bit of time there) then on to Brest, where I reunited with my ship for the trip back to Boston. Great memories. von Weber
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:36:33 For: earlydiesels Dan Received your Emails and will respond once I check out that web site. Thanx! Insofar as my KCity Amtrak trip goes, these are usually turn arounds with just about an hour or less - no time for anything other than a quick walk over to Crown Center and back to Union Station. I do this about 4 or 5 times a year ..... My wife and I like to spend a couple of days out there in August (Anniversary) and then again November/December. We really enjoy the area and make those trips by car ... perhaps one of these trips we'll hook up ....... Whatillyahave Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:37:38 I hear you, Siberianmo, I can’t cut more than 2 or 3 beers any more, still I brew my own and so can get what I want. Gunns
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 15:39:38 For: Gunns I like your optimism - a Rendezvous in Albuquerque in 6 or 7 years - wouldn't it be great to have this cyber bar 'n grill still operating then! Enjoy the bier! Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 19:09:42 Well grand time for a Crown Royal Water back and a round for the house Come to think of it make mine a double. Trolleyboy thanks for the tip on the Bytown Railway Society I think they might be a big help. Well I still need info on the start up dates for the ACELA trains, even though they are out of service as I write this. I don't know if I am looking for two dates the one they began service New York-Washington and Washington - Boston or were they through trains only on the inaugural. I am getting anxious to finish my tome and send it to the publisher. But better to get it right then be responsible for spreading bad information. As it is the inauguration dates on several trains I researched were much in dispute. After seeking several sources I decided the majority wins and that was the way I made the decision on some of the streamliners. In one case I only had two sources so did the only diplomatic thing I could think of I flipped a coin. After days doing research I can understand why my mustache has gone white and my hair has thinned and turned gray. The young ladies in my office all kid me that I must be a ladies man. I told them keep their thoughts to themselves and dream I really am always busy doing research. Besides I am old enough to be their grandfathers. Its time for me to quit rambling and order another round of drinks.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 19:54:19 For: passengerfan Al Double Crown and ring the bell, Boris round on Al Email received and responded to ..... hope the news regarding Chris is positive! Never too old to appreciate the finer things in lilfe - and I'm not referring to working on a book! Nevertheless, good luck with it. For anyone interested: check out the latest photo's on the progress with my S-gauge layout: http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber This is the layout that rises to the ceiling for storage. Ready for 'nother one By the way, WHERE'S NICK Boris find Nick - fetch boy, fetch! Tom
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 20:17:44 Back again this time I want a KristallenWeitsen, Just had the "privilege" of moving my daughters stuff to her apartment. She just moved down from Chathem Ont. with her 3 kids, has a job and her own place. Humidity is up a little 35% but we will survive. looks like the first order of cars for the "Roadrunner" are being delivered soon, post from trains railroad forum, said so any way. I don’t know if I had alredy mentioned it but rumor has it that the 3751 may be coming to Abq for the Tricentennial celebrations, it <the 3751> was assigned here for much of its service on the AT&SF. Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 20:39:07 Yet another unprovoked attack on some trivial element of my Reply posts! I haven't the slightest idea where the "Formerly known as Bobfarkus" addition came from. It is not by my hand and I would be grateful to anyone who knows how to delete it! Until then: ignore it- - - -"maybe it will go away by itself." The "page" Gunns sent along seems to help confirm that the Northern Class is a locomotive "of choice" for many public parks and excursion trains [Southern Pacific and Union Pacific, et al.]. There is another 4-8-4 (Frisco) on display at Mohawk Park in Tulsa, Ok. It headed "The Meteor" in its day. Smaller communities opted for older (and smaller) vinatges for obvious reasons, $$$. While railing around Old Mexico, I noticed a number of public displays of steam in various states of repair. Rail fan documentaries from India, China, the U.K and many others, seem to indicate an almost universal reverance for the steam era. It begs the question: why aren't there even more steam excursions than there presently are? Could be, we will see more ventures into this area in the near future? I hope so.[ BTW, Tom did you notice the street car diner on the ground floor of the Crown Center. I was told that the facade is the actual front end of one of the early cars running in K.C. during the 1940's. I can attest to its accuracy as I rode those beasties as a lad in grade school. Unfortunately, I was (once again) with company (Aunt and Uncle) who couldn't find the merit in waiting in a line for lunching there. Instead, we took a 2 hour city tour (nostalgic) around the sights on a trolley of quite a different genre (rubber wheels, gas fumes, and decidedly "trackless," oh well. . Looks as though our membership is loyal enough but health issues are taking a toll on frequent visits. Let's all "be careful out there" or before long won't have enough crew left for an amusement park 15" guage operation. Speaking of which, there is a fine "live steam" club in your "neck of the woods" Tom. I'll try to send their web page next time if you aren't already aware of it. But for now, I must put it away for another day. A 'round for the house and a night cap of Bristol's Irish Cream for me please. Gut nacht und viele danka, auf wiedrsehen, Ted.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 21:13:49 For: Gunns Ah, the joys of being a parent .... the gift that keeps on giving! As hot as it's been in Ontario these past weeks, perhaps Albuquerque is cooler ...... Three grandkids in town - can't all be bad! Enjoy the brew! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 21:25:04 For: Theodorebear Ted Perhaps it's time for you to get your cyber situation Exorcised! Good grief - names you cannot change - messages you haven't inserted - what's next Rod Serlling, where are you I've had many a lunch in that Steetcar named Desire at Crown Center. Appreciate the background info ..... There was a time that Amtrak used to run close to on time between St. Louis and KCity - no kidding. Anyway, my turn arounds used to provide about 2 1/2 hours for browsing and eating at the Center. No more. Last time I took a day trip, which was this past Spring - I never left the train. We were so late getting in, that the Conductor said, "No point in getting off, we're loading up and off we go." I'm not much on clubs per se .... Perhaps I should get a bit more involved with others in the hobby, but then I'd have absolutely no time for THIS! Boris ring the bell - next round is on Ted - or whatever his name is! Nite all .... Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 22:51:43 QUOTE: Originally posted by Theodorebear There is another 4-8-4 (Frisco) on display at Mohawk Park in Tulsa, Ok. It headed "The Meteor" in its day. ------------------------------------------------------------- Hello Ted, Tom, and everyone else. I'll have another Miller Lite. There's also another Frisco 4-8-4 on park display in Springfield, MO. I don't remember the number off hand (CRS kicking in). There's also an ex CNW (I think) commuter car, a baggage car, and a BN caboose coupled to the Northern housing a Frisco museum. It's worth checking out if you haven't already. Ted, Theodorebear, you have mail. Tom, Siberianmo, email me when comin to KC. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 23:08:02 QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo For: Theodorebear Ted There was a time that Amtrak used to run close to on time between St. Louis and KCity - no kidding. Anyway, my turn arounds used to provide about 2 1/2 hours for browsing and eating at the Center. No more. Last time I took a day trip, which was this past Spring - I never left the train. We were so late getting in, that the Conductor said, "No point in getting off, we're loading up and off we go." Tom, ----------------------------------------------------------------- If UP is doing maintenance on the line, the delay could be longer Might plan on having a longer turnaround time Take care, Russell
QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 29 June 2005, 01:36:00 Good morning ya'all Met with the Chief of Mission from the US State Department yesterday. Hinted about a drink, but he did not bite so I guess I am in withdraw now. No railroads in Tripoli. There is one connecting Bengazi to Egypt, however, that is over 150 miles to the east. I think it is out of service now. Did ride the Gatwick Express from the airport to Victoria station. This is a nonstop train which I have ridden at least 200 times over the years. I hav yet to have it a non stop. they always seem to get a red signal and have to stop in the middle of the pasture for a minute or so. So much for non stop trains. Feel very safe here. Everyone is very friendly and courteous. Have not seen the military in uniform carrying Uzis like i have seen in other third world countries. The only police presence is the white uniformed traffic police directing traffic or investigating accidents. I would not want to drive here. They drive like it is a demolition derby. Not for the faint of heart. Have not really gone out much. It is too HOT to go out and walk around. The US State Department says that street crime is almost non existent. Pleasantly surprised with the country. I do like trees and fresh water. Not much of that here. The Mediterranean is salt water, but it is pretty. Getting the usual run around with the National Oil company. Cannot meet today/meeting at 10 not 9, etc. All for now. Our driver is waiting to take us to a meeting. About the birthday bash. The 15th of July will be fine. On the 16th I am heading back across the pond to jolly old England for a week. Will do some train riding there as I will be staying in London and riding the First Great Western trains to Reading, about 30 miles west of London. Cheers, ***
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 29 June 2005, 05:57:05 Good mornin' Crew, I had a spiritual matter to perform prior to "falling in." The Exorcism was a success; that is until yet another "ghost past" comes swaggering in from the "head shed." Careful of that bell Boris, it could be misunderstood for the hours of the day. Now, where was I? Oh yes, the last mention of the "old Fogies" reunion "up north" (Ft Meade, Md.) Aside from the Balto. Trolley and B&O museums, the Amtrak Eastern Corridor, City subways and Balto Society of Model R.R. Engineers (O gauge, outside third rail); D.C. is just one hour's hop away. From the sampling of interest already shown, that area might be worth considering as a future Venue? ***, It was a relief to hear the "non-stop" Gatwick to London train "ain't what its' supposed to be." I had a four hour lay-over at Gatwick en route to Dublin. The airport information people advised me against taking the round trip and now I understand the reason...maybe next time. No street crime in Libya? Figures! There wasn't much civilian crime in Hitler's Germany either; it was all at the top. Oh, another "birthday bash" coming up? Scary, ain't it? Gunns, wie viel Jahre im Deutchland haben Sie gewohnen? Your excursions from Bahnhof zu Bahnhof sounds like a recipe for ein Katastrophe. I've got my eye on a Amtrak "run-out" to New Orleans very soon. I've had enough highway travel for years to come. Let you know how this will play out in future posts. For now, it’s a Crown 'n' coffee eye opener and a "hearty hi-ho Silver" to Guerny Winklpleck's book emporium...must "bone-up" on mein Deutch (sprache), don't ya know? Later, Ted ==================================================== Congratulations Ted on the Exorcism – now perhaps we can get on with knowing you by your latest identity. [%-)] *** is in Libya – Nick in West Wales – Rob and Chris in Canada – are we International, or what [?] [tup] [swg] By the way, you owe me an Email response regarding the Amtrak trip we’ve been kicking ‘round ……… [;)] Okay – Crown ‘n coffee comin’ right up! [tup] Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of “Our” Place Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Gunns Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: New Mexico <Red Chilli> 259 posts Posted by Gunns on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:27 AM Just checking in, Coffee and a danish please, on the way to work day on the 2926. More later.... Gunns http://www.nmslrhs.org/ Trainnut484 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Kansas City area 833 posts Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:00 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by Gunns Just checking in, Coffee and a danish please, on the way to work day on the 2926. More later.... Gunns Good morning everyone [:)]. I'll just have a coffee. Had breakfast earlier. Gunns, would that be Santa Fe 4-8-4 2926 you're working on? You have my full attention. Take care, Russell All the Way! siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 10:32 AM For: Gunns - Kevin and Trainnut484 - Russell G'day and help yourself to the pastries and coffee .... stop on by later for lunch and a brew or two ....[;)] By the by - I encourage you guys to check through these pages - lotsainfo on 'em .... our customers should be eligible for prizes when it comes to writing skills and interesting stories. Would be a shame if you missed 'em. [tup] Any Classic Trains stories or discussions out there [?] Tom [:D] Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:47 AM G'day fine folks of "Our" Place Aside from the great lunches that we offer, I have a special treat for you this hot and humid day here in mid-continent USA. earlydiesels - Dan (remember him from this past Friday's Birthday Bash [?] [swg]) has provided us with a web site to check out: www.midland-ry.org This IS well worth your time - what a site and there's some fantastic Classic Trains to gaze at. I just spent the better part of an hour doing just that, and I'm no where near finished .... check it out guys! [tup] Thanx, Dan - imagine how much work you could get done if you weren't spending so much time drinking beer in this joint [?] [:D] See y'all! [tup] [;)] Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Trainnut484 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: Kansas City area 833 posts Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:57 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo G'day fine folks of "Our" Place Aside from the great lunches that we offer, I have a special treat for you this hot and humid day here in mid-continent USA. earlydiesels - Dan (remember him from this past Friday's Birthday Bash [?] [swg]) has provided us with a web site to check out: www.midland-ry.org This IS well worth your time - what a site and there's some fantastic Classic Trains to gaze at. Tom [#ditto][#ditto] Just poppin' in real quick before having to go the DMV to update car tags. These guys indeed are a great bunch. I knew one of the volunteers from a few years ago when I used to live in Topeka, KS. They were constant "contributers" to the Railroad Days festivals there. Hopefully there will be a cool break from this heat to go down and visit. Take care, Russell All the Way! West Coast S Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: Los Angeles 1,619 posts Posted by West Coast S on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:02 PM Long time no see Tom and the gang... Nothing alcoholic for me, have to attend a Article 32 hearing this afternoon (no, I'm not being charged, at least not this week![(-D]) . I see "Our Place" is more or less intact since I was last in. What do you recommend for for luch? You know, since you have the best eats I trust your judgement. Calling all SP Fans and a good "what if " for the group from the classic days of steam I'm curious about some 16mm film of SP steam I had the pleasure to view over my extended weekend , it was shot around the SF bay area in 1956 and one sequence caught my keen attention, that of a unidentified GS class 2 or 3 in freight service with a non GS tender, i'd swear it was from a displaced Cab Forward. Review of my extensive SP archives has produced no evidence to enlighten the mystery regarding possible tender swaps among the GS classes, similar request to SP groups have also been quiet. Sorry for the quick query, pressed for time today, a quick bite and back to the desk..What do we have planned for the 4th? I say we light Boris off...What a sight that would be! Dave SP the way it was in S scale coalminer3 Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: WV 1,251 posts Posted by coalminer3 on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:36 PM Checking in for coffee and a quick "hello" to everybody. We're having loveliy weather here, or as Babe Ruth said once in Washington, "Hot as hell, ain't it prez?" Can't wait for August; at least it's cooler underground. In keeping with our recent thread on train names, here's another piece of advertising copy; this time from the New York Central in June, 1942. BTW, each train named in the ad included a cut of a streamlined NYC steam locomotive. It was quite a parade. LEADERS OF THE GREAT STEEL FLEET The 20th Century Limited The Pacemaker The New England States The Mercury The Southwestern Limited The James Whitcomb Riley The Ohio State Limited The Detroiter The Cleveland Limited The Empire State Exprress The Advance Commodore and Commodore Vanderbilt Today, when all travel is essential travel, it's doubly essential to conserve energy on the way. New York Central's Great Steel Fleet of nearly 100 trains is speeding men of management, vital mail and express betwen America's key cities from the Mississippi to the Atlantic. New York Central The Water Level Route - You Can Sleep work safe siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:47 PM For: West Coast S - Dave Returned from the Legion of the Lost [tup] Luncheon specials right over there on the board between the jars of pigs feet and hard boiled eggs. As always, the hero/hoagie/sub/grinder sandwiches are terrific! Check out my recent pix of the S-gauge ceiling suspended layout: http://www.railimages.com/gallery/thomasweber go to page 5 ...... I'd appreciate your comments. My first venture into S. Fine, flick Boris' switch then take off .... [yeah] right! [tdn] You know, he's not been the same 'round here since his boss, Nick has joined the Legion of the Lostl. Don't be a stranger ......[;)] Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:53 PM For: coalminer3 G'day mate and where ya been [?] Was beginnin' to think that you and westcoast S - Dave had checked out on us ..... good seeing you again. [tup] In another life WE used to say, "Hotter 'n a half-f'd fox in a forest fire!" That's about as hot as it is 'round these parts lately. Love those train names - keep 'em coming! [tup] I'll bet passengerfan Al can relate to most of 'em! [;)] So, whatillyahave [?] You do know we're in the money making business 'round here! [swg] Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:58 PM High-Speed Rail News: (from TransportAction (Transport2000Canada) newsletter of June 5, 2005) (metric conversions by siberianmo) Mexico: Mexico’s Ministry of Transport and Communications has appointed Systra, France to assist in the preparation of tender documents for the construction and subsequent operation of a $5 billion (US) high-speed line between Mexico City and Guadalajara. It is hoped to invite bids for the turnkey project later this year. Bidders must include proposals on how to fund the project. The line would largely follow the route of the existing 613 km/381 mi. railway via Queretaro and Irapuato. This corridor has a population of 28 million. The objective is to link Mexico City and Gudalajara in 2 hours by trains operating at a commercial speed of 300 km/h/186 mph. The bus journey currently takes about 8 hours. Brazil: Brazil’s Federal District, the Brazilian state of Goias, and the Italian government have signed a contract for Italian companies to conduct studies and produce engineering designs to enable tenders to be invited for the construction of a 2-5 km/1.24-3.11 mi. railway operating at 250 km/h/127 mi. between Brasilia and Goiania. The line would serve a population of 6 million. Morocco: The Moroccan prime minister has announced that his country wants to establish a 500 km/311 mi. high-speed rail link between Casablanca, Marrakech and Agadir by 2015. The existing railway only extends as far south as Marrakech. Moroccan National Railways currently operate nine trains a day in each direction between Casablanca and Marrakech with a journey time of 3h 25 min. China: China’s Ministry of Railways released a new five-year development plan in March showing that it would build 10,000 km/6,214 mi. of track between 2006 and 2010, bringing the total length of the country’s railways to 85,000 km/52,817 mi. electrified. The plan calls for construction of more than5000 km of passenger track, doubling more than 4000 km/2,485 mi. of existing track, and electrification of 6000 km/3,728 mi.. The plan equates to construction of 11 new passenger lines and improvement of seven existing corridors across the country. Germany: German Rail’s fleet of 59 ICE 1 high-speed trains will be completely modernized by 2008 in a program costing 180 million euros. The trains have been in service for 15 years and the work will extend their working life by another 10 to 15 years. The main focus will be on refurbishing the train interiors with new color schemes, seats, tables and flooring, to bring them up to ICE 3 standards. Power cars will be modernized with new bogie frames developed in cooperation with Bombardier, and air-conditioning will be updated. =============================== VIA Rail news: The overnight trains between Montreal and Toronto, the Enterprise along with the Halifax to Sydney seasonal excursion train, the Bras d’Or, have ceased operations for budgetary concerns. ------------------------------------------------------- So, there you have it - we are diddlilng around with the cessation of passenger service (Amtrak) while the rest of the world is planning in 21st century terms. Canada is also experiencing financial and political turmoil which has led to many threats of service cut backs to VIA Rail. And the beat goes on ........ Tom Happy Railroading! Siberianmo Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:31 PM Hello everyone. I'll take something ice cold and bottomless, please. I'm glad you liked our website, Tom. Hope some of our regulars have reviewed it, also. As I told Tom, our webmaster does'nt update it very often. Some of the "news" on there dates from winter 03-04 when our south end was under construction. Some of the photos are dated, also. Having the other 5.5 miles available for regular use sure lenghens our ride and has some different scenery, too. I am a member of the museum here in Spfld. We have Frisco 4524, CNW #2 commuter coach, and a baggage car with a BN widevision caboose. We have lots of exhibits in all the cars and are open on Saturday afternoons or special tours with advance notice. One of our members is working on creating a website. Russell, most of our members are from the KC and Topeka areas. You probably know some of them. I invite all our regulars to come out and see our railroad. Let me know when and we will try to be there to show you around. The wife and I are involved in 3-perhaps 4, preservation groups, so our free time is usually taken up. This Saturday we rode a 30" line right outside of town and now the owners want to train me to engineer their train so that is the maybe 4th group. Edit Gunns Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: New Mexico <Red Chilli> 259 posts Posted by Gunns on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:44 PM I want somthing cold too, I just got back, and Yep that is AT&SF 2926 the youngest Loco left from the Santa Fe Steamers a 4-8-4 with ALL rollerbearings <even on the side rods and valve gear> we have a former engineer that said he only got her up to 108 mph...... Another hot one to day, To day I finally got my rivet set/headers done, found that the one I made to the dimensions of the 7/8ths head rivets was too deep for the length of the rivet shank we had purchased. Therefor I made a second rivet set, that would shape and set the rivets we do have. Saturday will be rivet the foot board day <Grin> Meanwhile out in the sun we worked on the tender trucks, we have two 8 wheel buckeye trucks, numbered 13 <rear> and 4 <front>. We are rebuilding the trucks rear first then the front tender truck. work compleated on 13 today was the removal, rust treatment, and replacment of the 5 coil spring sets on the firemans rear spring box. this set of 10 springs was held up untill we had replaced the sacrifical wear plates around the spring box. Each truck weighs 11 tons, and our 25 ton car jack got a good work out as we raised and lowered the truck frame so as to set the springs in properly. Concurrent to the truck work, another crew was cleaning and rust proofing the hard to get at spaces on the front of the tender. We are using a product called "Rust Bullet" that bonds to the rust and base steel forming a rust proof paintable surface, as the product actually makes a chemical bond to the metal, future rusting is elminated or greatly reduced, much better than red lead and less toxic too. <Grin> Mean while back at the <ranch?> office a fourth crew was transfering our documents to cd rom and documenting recent work compleated for our FRA inspection. At the end of the day Ken our CMO went around to set up Satuerdays work session, plans include, removing all worn bearings for mesurment and fabrication of replacements, removal of brake rigging <link plates ect> so that the wear plates can be renewed, <Our welder is coming Sat.> and of course the foot plate riveting job. Also on the list is the 9 inch hone for the tender truck brake cyls. And the test manifold for the brake lines will be attached and pressurized to test for leaks. More to come, Gunns ps I have found a way to make large head rivet sets that you can use over a 5/8ths punch tool, if any one wants it I'll flip ya the specs. gunns http://www.nmslrhs.org/ siberianmo Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: Chesterfield, Missouri, USA 7,214 posts Posted by siberianmo on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 7:09 PM For: earlydiesels-Dan Something cold and bottomless coming' up ..... [tup] [swg] Sounds to me as if you truly enjoy all aspects of RR museum activities. Obviously, you have a skill or three going in - that helps! It occurs to me that without people such as yourself, much of what many of us revere in terms of railroading history, just wouldn't be. On a different note - any comments on what I posted regarding High-Speed rail [?] Have one on me! [;)] Tom Happy Railroading! 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QUOTE: Originally posted by Gunns Just checking in, Coffee and a danish please, on the way to work day on the 2926. More later.... Gunns
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo G'day fine folks of "Our" Place Aside from the great lunches that we offer, I have a special treat for you this hot and humid day here in mid-continent USA. earlydiesels - Dan (remember him from this past Friday's Birthday Bash [?] [swg]) has provided us with a web site to check out: www.midland-ry.org This IS well worth your time - what a site and there's some fantastic Classic Trains to gaze at. Tom
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