QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 11:02:29 I suppose it may be "off topic" to do very much ranting over our two Country's Birthdays, so Tom, please ring the bell a couple of times "on me." I would ask Boris but he has "a thing" for bell clappers. (???) Since we "did in" most of the Crown Royal yesterday (Canada Day), I'll settle for a Jack Daniels Black Label in the interest of my "patriotic duty." Better mix that with soda Tom as I'm not real "big" on Bourbon, thanks. These back-to-back Holidays can be down right dangerous so I'll go home via Mylow Claude Ball's Red Top Taxi service ( a word to the wise). Nick, if all is forgiven, please join us in the tipple of your choice a Gin and Tonic perhaps? Rob and Gunns, you gents are far too modest in accepting the accolades from your peers with the work you guys do in preserving our great rail heritage. If I wore a hat, it would be in my hand now! Salute! This group is truly exceptional and may we all raise a tankard to the liberties we enjoy that make a site like "Our" Place possible and free from the fear of tyrannical censorship. Naturally, that goes for Jolly Olde England as well. I did something rare this a.m. (for me). I saw a HO Roundhouse [M.D.C.I.] Pullman Palace Car kit at the LHS and did an "impulse purchase." Its a plastic (also rare for me) model of a 1890's A.T.& S.F. wooden observation car (80') replete with ten oval (vanity style) windows, brass (colored) fixtures, 16 stained glass (upper) frame (arched) windows, and copius under body and roof details. I'll use Central Valley (vintage) trucks which I "stock piled" years ago. [reminds me, I need to do an inventory soon] I'm glad I broke my oath today: its a darn nice kit. One question about this model! It is painted a Coach Green (w/gold fillagree). Shouldn't it be the old Santa Fe light brown (tan) color for that vintage car? Okay, enough of my palaver for now. Everyone have a happy, safe Holiday and if you are motoring; you have my sympathy. Tom, I understand P.I. Doyle is back in London at 222 Baker St. Perhaps Insp. Clueless could "shoot" an A.P.B. his way for Nick's whereabouts. Personally, I think he is hell bent on running his new multi train operation or had some altercation at one of his "gigs," Heaven forbid!
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 12:03:53 Hi Ted That was quite a morning post Black Label JD comin' right up love that stuff myself ...... just a wee bit too early in the day for me, tho.. Oh no problem with the bell clapper supply, they're right over there beneath pool table #1. Came in with the supply of pickled pig's feet. [?] Mylow Cluade Ball's Red Top Taxi service [?] this may really cause our young friend Rob to jump aboard his trolley and scoot! (Do trolley's scoot [?]- probably not. Happy to learn that you're not the only one who yeilds to temptation now 'n then .... I don't know your setup, but I've found that display cases are perfect for those gotta haves of the hobby. In the pix of my Can-Am trainroom, you'll catch a glimpse or three of them ... good place for your Pullman Palace Car. My guess is that you'll soon be reading some thoughts regarding the proper colors. That's interesting what you said about Mr. Doyle, Private Investigatgor being back in Merry Olde - last I saw of him and Inspector Clueless of the Local Constabulary was during earlydiesels Dan's Birthday Bash. They took on the job of security and as the evening wound down - they wound up with two of our gals, heading for the uppermost floor of "Our" Place - the Penthouse Suite. Haven't seen 'em since. Also, Cindy and Nick were last seen together ........ hmmmmmmm. Could it be [?] Nah. But....... hmmmmmmm. Maybe [?] Still awaiting that Email regarding my Amrak/KCity or Chicago thoughts ...... Tom
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 13:36:54 Hi again Tom, just wanted to let you know "you have mail" and cast aside any thoughts of our "security" people engaging in any clandestine tristes. Not a bit of it, Boris checked the upstairs bath tub for "tell tale" rings and there were none (more is the pity). Also, Doyle is back in Tea Town and advised of our Chef's absence just in the "Nick" of time, ooooh! I can't stay but will have another quick JD please, strictly for "patriotic" considerations, don't ya know? Again, happy holiday to all. Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 13:46:53 Ted Email received and responded to! Thanx Where and how are you getting your updates regarding our Sleuth's [?]The gals have since returned to work, but these two have been MIA since their hiatus to the Penthouse Suite. And ... Good Gawd Gertie, don't let Boris anywhere near the upstairs bath tub to the left of the second door on the right. That's where Nick's kitchen money is kept. So, Jack Daniels was a Patriot, huh [?] Boston Patriot as in original AFL team now known as the New England version [?] Whatever ....... enjoy! Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 14:20:48 earlydiesels - Dan, I can make it Sunday morning (tomorrow) providing the weather is not raining or not too hot. Could you email me tonight? I heard something on the grapevine this morning. My email address is atsffan@hotmail.com Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 17:17:23 Hey Boris don't let him out .... C'mon back Russell .... Whazzup [?]Just come on in - leave a message - walk out [?] No hello - no brew - no food - no nuttin'! Geesh! Okay, Boris let him go ......... Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 17:49:11 Hearty Hello to everyone I'll take my usual Miller Lite Sorry Tom and Boris. Had some home cooked breakfast this morn and I felt if i had one more bite of anything...well...Boris would have to do some heavy cleaning, and would need more than just a plunger I thought earlydiesels-dan would check in from the Midland, but according to his last post, he won't be in till the 4th. Slight oversight on my part Take care, Russell
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 18:13:18 Good afternoon everyone. If the crown's gone I'll have a couple of Keith's.TomTrolley's can scoot but it's not considered dignified. LOL If we really wanted to our Whitt's and the PCC's are quite capable of hitting the 60 MPH mark 100KM's for those of us who are metrically inclined. Take a peak at Bowser's website Tom they have some nice running trolley's for that new transit system on the Can-Am. A line from Our place down to the Union station would look quite good don't you think.Not to worry if ever we are in MO we will drop you the appropriate warning e-mail. Ted I think you are likely right on the paint job on the palace car. They are nice kits however. I've been looking at them as a potential spare parts source for interurban car scratch building projects. again. I see Boris is already setting up the shots for everyone. The sooner the trolley lines installed the better Tom. Catch you all later. Rob
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 18:19:05 Thanks all for the permanent stool status . I am truly honored and will use it well. Well I guess that calls for a round for the house. Finally got the 266 completed pages of my book in the format that i wanted and am quite pleased. Now it is time for me to quit stalling and complete the tome. My wife says if I ever mention writing a book again I will be living with my computer alone. Some things women just don't understand. She says it would be better if i locked myself in the spare room with a mistress that she could understand. Maybe I should have a mistress climbing through the window on the next book if she can understand that. Again thanks for the honor of a permanent stool . Maybe we should form the Royal Order of The Permanent Stools . Sounds Good to Me
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 18:57:09 I SEE NICK IS ON LINE! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:02:22 For: Trainnut484 Russell The round's on you and all's forgiven - ring the bell Boris I think the point of my Email to you has been missed - check out today's SUMMARY ....... Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:06:13 Hello all again, Tom, of course thanks for the Reserved Stool status . I SEE your online too ROFL. I'll just take another Miller Lite and sit on my stool (not porcelain..GOOD!) Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:08:38 For: Trolleyboy Rob Startin' to llke those Alexander Keith's [?] Great ale, really smooth ..... Haven't found a thing that I don't like about Nova Scotia and Halifax in particular! I haven't a clue about next year's baseball schedule, much less hockey. But should the Blue Jays or Maple Leafs come to town, that would be a great time for you and Heather to be in town. Sports - trains - sightseeing - would be great! Regarding that trolley line you proposed - you'd have to see the overall set up to realize that one cannot get from the City to "Our" Place by any other way than heavy rail and winding, country roads. However, I've been mulling over adding a section to my City scene, thereby possibly permitting some traction. Sound good to you? Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:13:20 Awwwwwwwright Russell - was beginning to wonder about you! As a Regular of "Our" Place you now have been bestowed with certain responsibilities - one of which is never, ever, leave a beer undrunk! Or something like that ......... on the serious side, you are now an official supporter of the joint! Gotta take Juneau for his evening one mile trek .... See ya later! Tom
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:50:35 For: passengerfan Al Funny thing about those SUMMARIES they DO contain info that from time to time holds special meaning for one or more of us ........ Congrats - again! The Royal Order of the Permanent Stools eh [?] Now there's a thought.. Secret handshake, behind the bar privileges, Penthouse Suite key and no waiting in line for pizza on Friday's Pizza Night. , why not [?] The Committee will have to consider this idea at its next gathering. Glad you came up for air, if only for a minute or two ........ Tom
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 19:51:21 Evening chaps,Tom one of those bottomless beers if you please, apologies for unexpected absence-just getting into a party groove for Dan & our service provider elected to initiate some sort of system update -fairly predictable result,8 days without net access.....nice work guys The worst of it is that Cindy had just agreed to show me her new tattoo.....still another party draws near Glad to hear word from Chris-Take it easy up there-a little light armchair modelling for you I think ! Right, just gonna pop out the back and check on Boris -bit of a mystery about the `latex companions`-I thought I`d locked that catalogue away -I dont want to think about how they were paid for...........Tom, a round for these fine gents and an Alexander’s for yourself, 58 E-mails awaiting plus U.S. leg of live8 show on tube--man ,The Who were something at the London show!!!!!!! back soon, nick
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 20:04:04 [#welcome] Back Nick ! Sure had us wondering just what had happened and why [?] So, Cindy IS still with you and has a tatoo. Oh, that will go over real well at the next university faculty meeting. Of course, when she's working her other job at the Victoria Secret's lingerie show, perhaps it will add to the mystique of it all. Boris and his dolls have become quite the thing and he's extremely protective of them, so be careful. Yes, the next Birthday Bash is Friday, July 15th for ***, should he ever return from his globe trotting! Thanx for spending a bit of time with us at this very late hour for you ..... Enjoy the Live 8 and see you sooner than later! Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 20:29:10 Hello again all. (I think there's an invisible rubber band or revolving door bringing me back Boris, I'll have my usual, and later I'll ask for an unusual. Good thing, just like Rob-trolleyboy, I brought a seat belt for my stool. Ted and Tom, here's an incentive to come to KC Union Station soon Part of historic rails display coming soon to Union Station. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 21:30:23 Hey Russell You're learning fast ... Just like the song, Hotel California You can check out any time you please, but you can never leave (Eagles} Nice shot! When I was out in KCity this past spring, I took a picture of that loco from the train - we were just returning from the Wye ........ that's the trip where we were so late, the conductor let us stay aboard for the return trip. A few years ago, my wife and I saw the complete consist at Union Station. Love that livery - great stuff! Ready for a nite cap [?] [zzz] Tom
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 02 Jul 2005, 22:29:23 Good evening all guess I'll have a Crown royal with water back and how about a round for the house. Tom following your traction ideas why not go ultra modern and go Maglev or maybe even older technology like Monorail. Once knew a railfan in Toronto who had a huge subway layout really interesting as could easily be seen from the sides and was very intricate in its layout believe if memory serves me right it was based on Boston and used large numbers of PCC cars many operating in multiples. Of course some of it was street running. Really impressed with the S-gauge so far I always liked that gauge for some reason always seemed to look more realistic than the others or at least to me it does anyway. I guess the expense and space limitations keep me out of the hobby, but collect transportation books instead. That can get very expensive as well. Well must close for now as company is beginning to ask where I disappeared to. Told them that being a Royal Member of the order of permanent stools I have certain obligations to fulfill. Both asked if I had moved my computer into the Throne room. I don't really appreciate the in law humor.
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 03 Jul 2005, 00:24:32 Hey Wow!, I get to sit down? Thanks All <G> Coffee and Danish please, sorry I'm late but it got long today at the work site. Cussed rivet gun is just too lite, I want more calories in my tools!! Ed <one of our club members> and I stayed late, but still had 3 rivets left on the foot plate. I feel like I'm burning the candle at both ends, when a work session overlaps my "work week" <G> Hmm sandwich fixns.... Any way, here is the log for Sat., Saturday 2 July 05, Sorry I'm late, Today we made some noise <G>, with work on the tender foot plate <currently detached and on the ground> this is the part of the tender that the apron from the cab rides on. And gives a safe connection between tender and cab. The assembly was removed in the course of splitting the fuel bunker from the water tank, and showed some damage, with the top plate warped and a number of the 1/2 inch rivets broken. The broken rivets having been previously removed we heated and hammered in new rivets, the rivet tool we made earlier this month worked well, making well shaped rivet heads, but the air hammer was like shining a flash light on the rivets... It seems we had a tool that wasn’t up to the task, and need to size up the tool, to rivet with ease. So we ended up heating the rivet in place, hammering, and reheating until we obtained solid seated rivets. Present today was Greg Rader, from the Texas Railroad Preservation Association, we shamelessly picked his brains for our benifet,<G> and he runs a mean torch, a skill of great utility when hammering recalcitrant rivets. Three rivets remain to be installed, and the foot plate will be ready for paint and installation. Also today we removed some of the brake rigging on tender truck #4, so as to complete the welding of the wear plates on it. Needle scaling of brake components continued on truck #13 to day, and plans were finalized for the construction of a hone for the 9 inch actuators mounted on the tender trucks. <it looks like the 9 inchers were an upgrade made by AT&SF as the plans show the Locomotive was delivered with 8 inchers>. Also black paint began to appear on the tender, painting was begun on the seams and rivets of the tender preparatory to spray painting. In the office a second computer was set up and the drawings and shop folios were uploaded to it, also the draft of our "lesson plan in a box" was reviewed, these boxes will be in the hands of teachers of the Albuquerque Public School system for the 2005-2006 school year, the lesson plans and resources promote Railroad Safety, high lite the importance of railroads in history, and provide activities for students. More to come, Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 03 Jul 2005, 09:25:42 Happy Fourth Eve everyone, already the pyromaniacs (young and old) are doing their work to scare the bejemmins out of neighbors and pets. Last year, I policed-up 7 "bottle rockets" from the yard (garden) and 3 from the roof. I then placed small "Old Glories" (Flags) from whence they fell. The subtle effort "fell on deaf ears;" small wonder! Welcome back Nick , we missed your "Picks" and wit around here. Oh, I'll inform Mr. Doyle to drop the case. Please Tom, "fill-em-up" and a "bottemless" for yourself....you prefer "topless?" Let's see, R.M.O.T.O.O.P.S. ("Royal Members of the Order of Permanent Stools"), it does lend a certain penache to our, otherwise, pedestrian identity , no? Passengerfan Al, you just may have something there. Congratulations Russell, I always knew you would make the grade. The K.C.S. pic. really moved the adrenalin count up "over the top." [Aside: Isn't that City Hall just to the left of the E.M.D. number board]? Chris, we are here for you and many a Toast in your honor has been made. Please recouperate soon lest we, all of us, "fall to the bottle." One more enquiry on the proper color for the 1890's Pullman Palace Santa Fe Car. Could it be "leased" from Pullman in coach green? Or, should it be the older Stl. & S.F. Olive Drab (tan)? Rob, know what you mean about cannibalizing for "spare" parts. Most of my "plastics" have found their way to ground clutter in the yards, piecemeal. Tom, if you decide to go traction (in city), I'm sure you are mindful of the overhead wire and unique track challenges at large. D.C. (and others) used "center" third rail (under ground (urban) and over head trolley (suburban). Just a thought for avoiding wire and pole hassles downtown. If you go girder rail (in street) just one rail at a 90 deg. angle to the "running rail" gets the "effect" a lot cheaper than buying "off the shelf." Mine is just a "dog bone" for continuous operation, "icing on the cake" if you will. It does add a lot to any city scape. Granny's green gaul bladder! What's Boris using Juneau's "pooper scooper" for? Picking up coals for the B.B.Q.? Well Gents, maybe a lot of K.C. Masterpiece Sauce will do the trick? Happy Fourth all, Ted
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 03 Jul 2005, 11:07:21 Hello all once again, I've brought along some of my own liquified refreshments with me today since the bar is closed (I think) Ted, yes that's the City Hall building. I've only been in it about twice and that was just to get our marriage license. Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 03 Jul 2005, 15:09:46 In lieu of a SUNDAY SUMMARY it appears to be time to reiterate a few things .......... THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT ”Our” Place: 1. This is a cyber bar ‘n grill for adults who appreciate Classic Trains – real and model – and enjoy a bit of humor while discussing them. 2. This thread was started as an alternative to those where hit ‘n run postings are the norm. Here, we strive to be inclusive with all who participate as regulars. There will be those who stop by to check us out and they will receive an appropriate [#welcome] from the Proprietor along with encouragement to join us. Keep in mind, this is not the typical thread seen elsewhere. One has to earn a regular place at this bar. 3. To be a regular all one needs to remember is to participate and contribute to the topic on a regular basis. 4. We have a Birthday Watch List for all regulars. To sign up, just provide your birth date (month-date-year). We’ll schedule a cyber Birthday Bash for you on the day of your choice. 5. We have an Order of the Stools Club whereby regular customers of the bar receive recognition as either permanent or reserved holders of ”Our” Place bar stools. 6. We feature SUMMARIES of postings by our customers. They are provided to help with catching up on periods of absence. They also contain relevant information at the beginning for all customers. 7. The bar is CLOSED on Sunday and Christmas Day. However, submissions may be dropped off in the mail slots on either set of front doors. 8. The Proprietor of “Our” Place only asks that you enjoy yourself while here, but requests that before posting information, take the time to catch up with what you may have missed. To do otherwise turns this thread into what we’ve been trying to avoid. Thanx! Tom (Siberianmo) Proprietor of ”Our Place
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 03 Jul 2005, 21:41:50 Well its time to think about what the fourth of July means to all of us. To me it means having lived another year in the home of the free and i personally am glad the war is being fought in Afghanistan and Irag than in the streets of the USA. As a veteran of a very different war I can remember well the body bags being delivered to Denang and simple coffins placed aboard the planes in Saigon for the last trip. For over 200 years Americans have proudly fought and defended the changing flag and tomorrow we celebrate what remains One Nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. With that I will raise a toast to all who will join me and to all a good night.
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 04 July 2005, 02:51:40 Pokes head in door, Coffee? Hmm early yet, rummaging for sandwich, still at work, standing watch for the holiday In celebration of the 4th I propose an excursion. I'll bring the loco <2926>,a tool car, <ex US Army hospital kitchen car> and the AT&SF "Navaho". So what cars should we pull? Remember the 2926 has 87,000 lb of drawbar pull, that translates in to 29 Pulman wieght cars. Here is a site with possible picks, http://www.aaprco.com/Cars/car_name_index.html Next we need a destination..... say Eastern Seaboard to the Grand Canyon, what do ya think. Gunns
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 04 July 2005, 02:53:22 Oh yes, A toast, Absent companions. Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 04 July 2005, 04:03:17 IS ANYBODY HOME? So long as we are celebrating our "Independence," how 'bout we make sure "Our" Place remains "independent?" As Tom stated, the only thing that makes this thread unique is the interaction and sharing between members. And, the only way to share is to keep continuity between member's posts, right? And the only way to keep "continuity" is to keep up with the Summaries, also right? Hey, if "Our" Place were like all the other threads, I guarantee most of us wouldn't be here anymore. Several ideas from Members are still "ot there" without so much as a "**** off" from our fellow esteemed brothers. That's what happens if we ignore the Summaries. It's like trying to inventory a warehouse without a starting or an ending place. Thank heavens Uncle Tom (sorry) [:I] takes the time and has the patience to give us a "wrap" on our collective ideas. The least any of us can do is 'BE A MEMBER"and read the summaries. [:D] You won't believe how much simpler life can be when, at a glance, you know what's been said by whom. [:)] Excellent, please let me pick-up the tab for this distinguished group of comrades (in the bonds) and I'll exit the [soapbox] 'til next Independence Day. [;)] See ya again soon, Ted
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 July 2005, 06:55:02 HAPPY INDEPENDENCE Day 2005! (Click to enlarge) Since this is the 4th of July and America’s Birthday ”Our” Place invites our friends and their families to celebrate with us today …. Start with a free lunch and good times followed by fireworks at dusk! [wow] [yeah] Come join us! [tup] [swg]
QUOTE: Originally posted by siberianmo Russell You have just experienced one of the benefits of "Our" Place through the connection with Dan ... that's great! [tup] Donuts [?] Surely you read all about the free lunch today, etc. [swg] But, the freshly baked goods from The Mentor Village Bakery are right over there, next to the coffee urns. Help yourself ...... Nice photos, by the way! [tup] Happy 4th to all! Tom
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 09:56:30 Good Morning all and Happy 4th. I'll take a coffee and a couple of doughnuts. I had a great time yesterday (Sunday) at the Midland RR (Baldwin City). Got to meet Dan-earlydiesels in person. Thanks Dan for your hospitality . Also pass along thanks to Ernie and the other members of the crew working that day. The MKT RS3M looked great. Hopefully the rain holds its cork till after the fireworks displays tonight. Mother Nature provided her own fireworks display late afternoon into late last night. Can you believe its been almost 30 years (29 excactly) that the railroads celebrated the nation's centennial? Here's a reminder Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 11:18:04 Russell You have just experienced one of the benefits of "Our" Place through the connection with Dan ... that's great! Donuts [?] Surely you read all about the free lunch today, etc. But, the freshly baked goods from The Mentor Village Bakery are right over there, next to the coffee urns. Help yourself ...... Nice photos, by the way! Happy 4th to all! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 11:37:20 All of our regulars know about the Birthday Watch List .... however, it needs to be posted repeatedly, just as a reminder regarding who is coming up next for the Birthday Bash ...... BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) April 18 (Al - 63) May 18th (Tom - 67) May 27th (Dave - 46) June 24th (Dan - 43) July 15th (*** – 65) July 25th (Chris - 51) August 16th (Ted - 67) September 8th (Rob - 34) Not on the list [?] Send me an Email with your birth date (month-day-year). Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Trainnut484 Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 13:06:31 Hello all and again Happy 4th. Tom, I think I'll take you up on that free lunch . I indeed had a great time at the Midland. Dan and crew took me to Nowhere and back (you have to ask Dan). Take care, Russell
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 13:35:54 Hey Russell Glad you came back! I see that the free lunch has attracted the Can-Am track gang (as usual!) - but, they are a great bunch of guys and as long as we keep 'em in the back room with the pool tables, and plenty of pitchers of brew - all's well. Too happy a day for anything to break out ..... I hope either you or Dan provides us with a rundown of your day .... Enjoy! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 14:59:29 Good Day All Well since its the fourth of July I will start with a double Crown Royal and water back. Remembered one of the streamlined trains in my book was inaugurated as a streamliner using all Budd equipment on July 4, 1949. The Train was the NYC OHIO STATE LIMITED operating overnight between New York and Cincinnati. Actually the first eastbound only operated on July fourth and the second westbound. For train makeup the following were the consists on July fourth WB from Harmon 4024 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit 4109 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit 8974 Baggage 19 Crew Dormitory Car 2940 56-seat Coach 2942 56-seat Coach 2944 56-seat coach 2946 56-seat coach 485 22-seat lounge Kitchen Car 405 64-seat Dining Car Rapid Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-seat Lounge Car Putnam Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Eden Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Monroe Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car Onandaga Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Lebanon Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Pine Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Fall Brook 5-Double Bedroom Bar 25-Seat Lounge Observation EB from Cincinnati 4028 EMD E7A 2,000HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit 4111 EMD E7B 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Booster Unit 8973 Baggage 19-Crew Dormitory Car 2941 56-Seat Coach 2943 56-Seat Coach 2945 56-Seat Coach 2947 56-Seat Coach 486 22-Seat Lounge Kitchen Car 407 64-Seat Dining Room Car Rainbow Stream 6-Double Bedroom Bar 22-Seat Lounge Car Yosemite Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Cumberland Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Tonawanda Harbor 22-Roomette Sleeping Car Schoharie Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Orchard Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Mohawk Valley 10-Roomette 6-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car Plum Brook 5-Double Bedroom Bar 25-Seat Lounge Observation Well thats it from me today but at least their was one famous streamliner that began on the fourth of July. Now its time for another round and the sandwiches are looking good too.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 16:41:48 For: passengerfan Al - Good seeing you this fine day! Crown and a sandwich - why not [?] 15-car passenger consists just brings a smile to my face - can envision it almost as if it was passing right in front of me. What was the livery of that particular train [?]Those NYC lightning bolts were really impressive ..... I liked them best with PA's ...... Sure brings back some memories. Never rode that particular train - but every now and then used to go up to Albany and return to NYC just for fun ........ great scenery back then. Enjoy the day! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: earlydiesels Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 19:04:28 Hello everyone. I'll take one of those cold, bottomless draughts, please. I'll raise my glass in tribute to all veterans and propose a moment of silence for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Without their selfless sacrifice, our founding fathers dreams of a country would have been a short lived experiment. Thanks. It was nice to meet Russ yesterday. I am glad he enjoyed himself. I rode the second train of the day in a coach and was surprised when our conductor said the engineer (G.M.) hollered at me on the radio. I was on the ground at our endpoint helping the patrons detrain and was informed about Russ's presence in the cab. I rode back with Russ and tried to talk but my voice doesn’t carry well, especially in the cab of a working EMD with the doors open! After arrival back at Baldwin, we were able to talk some more and Russ was probably able to check out more of our equipment. When you were leaving, Russ, I was in the cab of the switcher and we were preparing to do some switching to put back in the train the other Canadian coach for the Thomas the Tank event. We also pulled all the cabooses out of the runaround track and shoved them north out of the way so our track gang could hopefully fini***he track. I realize you were running late but had you stayed, you could have rode with me in the 524 while switching. To me, switching is more fun than even running all 11 miles with the passenger train. I'll take another ice cold, bottomless draught, please. What's this about free food?? The photos were nice, Russ. Ernie is our official photographer among all his other duties, so rare is the photo with him in it. Wish he had a computer. Hope you can come out again. The invitation is still open to anyone of the OUR PLACE gang to ride the Midland.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 19:50:32 Hey Dan Lookin' good on that stool! Free lunch all day - right over there on the two buffet tables ....... help yourself! Fireworks starts soon out back ....... I think that's a great thing for you to do regarding the open invitation to "Our" Place customers to experience the Midland Railway. Hope to get out there myself, maybe with a friend or two ........ Enjoy the night! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 20:08:26 Tom the livery of the NYC Ohio State limited was the grey with lightening stripes on thge diesel but the cars were all stainless steel from Budd. Pretty impressive fifteen car trains you are right but before that summer was over they had grown to eighteen cars regularly and winters the consist averaged about twelve during the fifties. By the sixties the consists were ten or less summers and eight ofr less winters and then they started combining the trains with other trains between NY and Buffalo - Cleveland. Then the NYC began selling cars to the NdeM and Canadian National as they were surplus to their dwindling needs.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 20:28:54 Quote Evening passengerfan Al - Can hardly hear myself think with the noise of this place and the fireworks going off outside ....... Appreciate the info on the NYC ..... I can't remember the last time I traveled aboard a passenger train in the U.S. that had 15 cars, much less 12. With VIA Rail in Canada, it's commonplace, as you well know. A question regarding the NYC oval ... did they use a different motiff for passenger as opposed to freight [?] Back in those times when attracting the public's attention through the magazine ads and billboards was a huge part of passenger railroad advertising, I recall seeing different NYC ovals for passenger in those ads than appeared on the freght ads. Thoughts [?] Enjoy the night! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 04 Jul 2005, 23:28:59 Good evening folks. I hope everyone had a safe holiday. I'm reposting this as it's attempy yesterday was snatched away by the computer gremlins.Tom I've always liked Keiths I first sampled it in Halifax when my sister and her hubby were living out there.I go for it whem I'm in an ale mood. A thought if you are going for an non operating traction line,you might as well grab a length of the ORR track custom made girder rail. It's expensive to do a whole layout with it but for a little piece why not? Of coarse Ted's suggestion would look quite good as well. www.customtraxx.com . Ted I like the royal order idea sounds catchy. Of course to use the term "ROYAL" in an organizations name you need royal approval. Good thing Nick is a member he could present our petition maybe. Speaking of which glad your back online Nick. A good thing too because Boris was itching to take over the chefs picks on fish night. He mentioned something about whipping up spider goulash early Nice shot of the RS I have never gotten use to the genetically modified Alco diesels. The first I remember seeing was on my one trip out to BC. CPR chopped the noses on their RS2's and some RS3's for humpyard service. The BCR also repowered a couple of RS18's with cat engines and the ended up with big wing like radiators ala GE locomotives quite odd looking. Still it's nice to see so much vintage equipment still putting in time for everyones enjoyment. passenger Al Let me know when the books ready to be printed. Our museum's gift shop speaciallizes in selling rail books and videos. We would likely order quite a few. Passenger rail books sell quite well in the shop along side the traction and Ian Wilson's CNR steam series. Gunns How is the drill press modifications coming. I wasn't quite straight on how you were doing it. Did you say that you were leaving the trucks on the tender while you were prepping them for the new bearings? I'm just wondering if you can take the trucks off and set them up on their sides (braced of course ) could you not bore with the drill press is it's usual vertical stance or are the parts to big ? Well folks enjoy the rest of the fire works. I'll check in with you all tomorrow. Rob
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 05 July 2005, 08:02:56 Was it Ms Columbine that stated: "There are no cyber hang-overs?" If that is true; I just made medical history! Between the J.Daniels and the bombastic fireworks; my "frontal-lobotomy" is now pending [aside: or, is that: "bottle-in-front-of-me?"] Please Tom, just a Bromo Seltzer, "shaken-not stirred," if you will?. Rob, I can't take credit for the "Royal Order of the Permanent Stools" idea. That honor belongs to Passengerfan Al's penchent for prose. Tom mentioned that the "idea" is just now in Committee. Perhaps, as you said, Nick might use his influence at his next audience with the Queen on this matter. Yes, the famous "lightning stripes" (N.Y.C.) livery is a favorite of mine also. However, I prefer the two tone gray smooth sides cars and the 2 level stripes on the boat tail Observation. Also, the EMD, E-6 A-units (bevel nose) get my vote; it's "right up there" with the Santa Fe War Bonnets.[ Sorry Russ, I just had to say it! Hey Gunns, that aaprco.com site is a "Keeper.} Thanks for sending it along. Tom, your "show case" idea is duly noted and a possibility. For now, I'll just park the Pullman Palace on a siding (next to turntable) as a leased Business Car. Oh, I don't know if you might consider a Mono Rail (downtown) should you decide to "take the plunge" for "light rail?" My "return" on the next Fourth was in regard to the , not "Our" Place. [aside: Some people like me just can't take a hint] Here it is Wednesday (trash day) and we haven't begun to to remove the top layer of last night's refuse! It truly was an inspiring party though, especially when Boris posed as the Statue of Liberty with a Roman Candle in his raised right hand. I understand he will be wearing a toupee pending natural hair growth. Any rate, I doubt if his laytex "Playboy Bunnys" will object very much. Okay, let's get started on last night's carnage before Clueless sends "Mentor's Finest" after us. So long for now, Ted
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