QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted: 07 July 2005, 12:47:26 Tom--The name "Housekeep" is a local term referring to an innkeeper or proprieter of an eating and drinking estabishment. No offense meant. My heart goes out to the good citizens of greater London who lost or had injured friends or loved ones in the tragic events this morning. I only ask that we do not ru***o judgment and blame some ethnic or religous group for this horrible act. Let MI-6 do their work then let Queen's Bench do their work. Justice will be served in due course. It truly is a sad day. ***
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 13:01:30 For: *** No offense taken - it's just that in some places I've frequented, referring to the bartender or proprietor as the Housekeep might have gotten one thrown out in physical terms. Whether it be vandalism in the neighborhoods or the more violent acts witnessed in New York City, WashDC and now London, the cowards who skulk in the shadows of free societies will get theirs. My hope is that the resolve of the free world will become even greater, thereby denying further foot holds for these vermin. Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 07 July 2005, 15:07:48 Afternoon Tom and the gang.. A sad day indeed..Thoughts and prayers to those in London. We stand united as one in your time of trial. They who seek to destroy our way of life will not prevail. Did some research into Palace Cars on the Santa Fe overnight . Palace car service was only available on the DE Lux California Limited in 1896 through 1902. Only three Palace cars were assigned from the STATE and GERONIMO series . All were constructed as 10 section-double drawing rooms known as the STATE series constructed and shared equally among the Monon and Chicago Great Western and so named for the states in which they operated. The GERONIMO was also one in a series on ten, shared equally among the Santa Fe, Rock Island & Southern Pacific and named after regional specifics. With the exception of those assigned to the WABASH CANNONBALL, all wore traditional Pullman green with special order high sheen varnish finish with gold fillegree, stripping and lettering. Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 17:49:19 Hi Dave Somber day indeed. Super saturated media coverage aside, if the best thing to come out of this is solidarity - that can only help to defeat these vermin. Appreciate your stopping by - been a real slow day 'round here. Got some model railroading done today ... my S-Trax order finally was made complete. Was able to wire up those 8 turnouts - beneath the board of course, and connect the passing siding along with the parallel sidings. Still missing my insualted rail joiners and if it wasn't so darned aggravating, it would be funny. Unbelievable how this S-gauge transaction has been screwed up. Oh well, as I told the guy who handled the sale, "Whether it's a $300k house, a $40k automobile or $2k worth of model trains, shame on me for expecting excellence." Nevertheless, the progress is moving forward and once I get those insulators, I'll be able to run the trains between ovals using my dual power AC transformer. Then comes the landscaping ....... By the way, Dave when it comes to trackside kinds of things, who do you recommend as a manufacturer? S-gauge/scale seems awfully hard to find when it comes to structures. I'm not planning anything involved - just something trackside ...... relay houses, work sheds, etc. See ya! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 07 July 2005, 19:19:33 Good afternoon Tom I've not reached the linside detail stage yet, here's what I have discovered in planning for such an event . HO semaphore signals can have the mast extended 10% to arrive at S scale, HO switch stands are more prototypical when used for S as well. I've read of adapting HO structures and such by changing doorways if so desired or you could place in locations some distance from obvious s scale detail to fool the eye. Of course they would be just as easy to build from scratch as a one or two evening project to your design at the right price. Do a search for Bill's Train Shop also known as BTS and Grandt line for specific S scale details. Also think outside the box, don't dismiss anything HO or Sn3 or On30 you might fine what you are looking for. Try this for your insulated joiner dilemma: Get some 0.20 tor 0.40 styrene, cut a plug to fit in the rail ends, butt align track sections, secure roadbed and track to foam as needed to maintain correct gauge, secure plug with ACC or epoxy , wait to dry and file to the shape of the rail, instant insulated joints. I raise my glass to those suffering tonight. Dave
QUOTE: siberiarnmo Posted: 07 July 2005, 19:50:28 Evening Dave Have one on me ['tup] ....... Fish 'n Chips night and it looks like we're going to be stuck with lot of food! The gals are all here - but hardly anyone in the back room. Expect the night crowd shortly ........ Appreciate the tip regarding insulated joiners. Problem is that I paid for 'em and they either get sent or I get a credit. This has been going on for weeks .... Appreciate the tip regarding insulated joiners. Problem is that I paid for 'em and they either get sent or I get a credit. This has been going on for weeks .... The S-Trax does not have tubular rails - they are solid and held together much the same as HO, with rail joiners. But, thanx anyway for the idea ... at first seemed like a fitting solution! [swg] I've done so much web browsing that I'm bleary eyed. I knew about the adaptations form HO, Sn3 and On30 - also 0-27. However, I'm not looking for stations, houses, towers and the like. Just the little stuff alolng the right-of-way. I saved lots of "stock" from the building kits used on my Can-Am HO layout, so improvision isn't an issue at all. Probably will resort to that after all. However, I'll check out BTS - already knew about Grandt Line ....... [tup] My little pike will be a landscaped affair - giving the impression of always being "away" from developed areas. Am looking forward to getting at it ...... Uh oh, I hear the Can-Am track gang approaching ........ good for business! Have another Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 07 Jul 2005, 21:25:52 Good Evening All Guess I'll have my usual Crown with a water back and a round for the house. Truly saddened by today’s events on the other side of the pond. Working diligently on book stands at 269 pages this evening. Like the S-gauge more every time I look at your slides love that IC EMD E8A. Guess I will have to rent the apartment next door if my book sells to build a S-gauge layout. Will keep this brief this evening as I may get a page or two more book in.
QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 07 Jul 2005, 23:54:34 Hello and good evening everyone. Just tea I think Tom. First off I have to say how saddened I am for the events in Britain. Here's hoping the perpetrators are caught and swiftly dealt with. Ted thank-you for the link and email clarification. i haven't dug too deeply into the site yet but it is nice to see the new "vintage" Birney's. Everyone take a peak at the site Ted posted a couple of pages back interesting stuff. The only thing I'll add to your digital quest is that try to look for a camera with a docking station, it's a charging stand that has the direct to computer download cables included. Handy charge and download at the same time. I believe it's Poloroid cameras that have these Tom Your’re probably right on the local of the Brett incident, something similar happened at Exhibition Stadium as well, now I'm just confused. gunns Glad to hear of the further progress, I have to say the needle gunning isn't fun. I had a whirl at it myself two years ago. We were working on the track plows trucks prior to reassembly and painting. westcoast Nice to hear about that car being saved, nice to know that private citizens will undertake that kind of work, won't likely be cheap. I know our Museum is looking at a $250,000 rebuild of TRC 1326 our first car if we ever want to get her completely back in service. she's an all wood car that needs complete off body restoration from the frame up. She's fine structurally as a static piece but isn't up to snuff for regular running. This is of course a backburner job at the moment, but we would like to see it done. Chris Glad you had a good first excursion. I would highly recommend that anyone going to Montreal go to the Delson Museum. Something for everyone steam, diesel, traction passenger and freight cars, it's a really amazing spot. One day there hardly suffices. I know that our museum has had lots of dealings with them over the years, really good people to work with. Passengerfan Sounds like the book's sailing right along that's good news I have only had contact with the old NYC streamline cars in the VIA "Blue" years. Road in a few of the coaches over the years. The only NYC car that I have constant contact with is the "Dorcas Bay" I think that's the CN / VIA name. It's the sleeper car that we have at the Museum, oddly enough we use it as a sleeper for our crews when they stay over at night. We haven't regauged the trucks yet, if that happen and we get either L2 or 335 operational it may get pulled up and down the line as a piece of revenue equipment that could be fun ! Well folks Wed at the museum was long and tiring hence why I didn't pop in yesterday, helped do a field oiling of open car 327 controller , motors , and babbit bearings in the truck interesting. It was the first time that I had seen inside of a K type controller, simple rugged construction, bullet proof really. Anyway I'm away for now. All those in the way of weather watch yourselves and everyone keep your poles on the wire. Rob
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 08 July 2005, 01:57:51 Hi all, at work here and BZY <in the midst of our annual alignment on my UPS, all 7 tons of it> Coffee please, I'll drop a couple of pics, this is My Engine/genarator set 550 KW. This me in My simpit. <for a game called Aces High a MMOG> later, Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 08 Julky 2005, 08:00:28 Yes, I have already made my moments of "silent Prayer" for these innocent victims. No matter which source it may be, this is a "sign of the times" in an unhinged global fanaticism. We expect violence here (Tampa) as the trial of Sami al Arian develops. Gentlemen, if you seek "Security;" you will find it on p. 1318 of Webster's "New World Dictionary (College Edition). We must not allow this excrement ro ruin our lives! Okay Mr. Tom, I spotted that tin of Twinnings Green Tea and began salivating (much like Boris) for a hot cup and a grilled Prune Danish, if you please. "Prune?" Oh yes, its an old Scandinavian remedy. let's not go there! Dave and Tom, I believe your choice of S guage is "spot on" for the ideal size. Isn't it great to have more options with "adaptations" from the smaller guages? {Aside} Once- upon-a-time, I bought my Nephew (7 yr. old) two Am Flyer trains for X-Mas. The Locos were the J3a N.Y.C. Hudson(4-6-4) and U.P. Northern (4-8-4) with 4 Budd "style" stainless cars also 8 various freight cars plus the two-train controller. That's not to mention a 75' heavy weight day coach which I scratch built. I told Tom earlier about the calamity which befell this gift. Its almost too painful to recall but the trains were inadvertently left (origianl boxes) in the garage and the Buyer of the house reaped a valuable "windfall" indeed. I had already moved to Florida before the house sold and it was over nine years later before my Sister related what had happened. Gunns, thanks for the neat pics. Is that really you in the simulator or an old movie poster from W.W. II? BTW, what is (or are) 7 tons of UPS? I guess you aren't hurtin' for K W around the shop, eh? Rob, glad you enjoyed the site and thanks for your input on the "tech side" for pics. I'm not there yet but working on it, thanks again Tom, I can certainly impathize with the hassle you're having on your S guage order. As the old adage has it: "been there, done that!" Okay, I'll make this a wrap for now but will see you's guys for Fish-n-Chips (I hope) later tonight. Sure do miss [C=:-] Nick's picks, especially after toat'n four bushels of Md. Crabs back for him. Stay safe and well, happy rails, Ted
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 08 July 2005, 08:11:26 Good Morning All Coffee & Croissant sounds good. TROLLEYBOY Just for your Info The DORCAS BAY was an NYC 22-Roomette Sleeping Car built in Septemebr-October 1948 To plan 4122 in Lot 6790. NYC accounting department assigned the number 10423 to the car but most of these numbers were never actually applied to car they used a cross reference sheet with the car name and number shown. The car is known to have operated in the Detroiter and Wolverine both trains crossed Southern Ontario. Sold to CN in May 1974 numbered 9482. Named VAL BRILLANT in CN service final CN number 2054. To Via March 1978 and finally retired in January 1990 Was in Storage as late as December 1992. Then was acquired by your group. For its final years in VIA service the car was used most often as Crew Dormitory for Super Continental and even Canadian. The car wore at least three paint schemes the NYC two tone Grey, CN Black & White and Via Blue with yellow stripes. Back to my book TaTa for now.
QUOTE: siberiano Posted: 08 July 2005, 08:49:12 Good morning Ted The Mentor Village Bakery is always at your service - prune Danish it is .... however, since we are hardly a Gourmet's delight around here, grilling is out of the question! Warmed in the micro will have to do! The tea [?] Wouldn't know one from another - but if it flicks your switch, help yourself! Excrement - vermin - good descriptors I'd say. The only way to defeat these scum is to stand and hold unified - stop 'em at every turn, here and abroad. If one has nothing to hide, then one shouldn't fear the authorities pulling out all the stops to protect our way of life. I think we also have a huge population bent on disintegrating us from within ... but that's a story for another day and forum. Ted if you've read my comments regarding a couple of steady hands around here - they apply to you, especially. Interested [?] Drop me an Email on this ..... Sorry to report that Thursday's are Fisn 'n Chips nights. However, we do have quite a bit left over, so with steak night set for tonight - there'll be something else to select. My guess is that Nick is either experiencing computer/server problems or touring with the band ....... At any rate, he's missed for sure. Boris is really down these days (daze). Tom TED READS THE SUMMARIES, Do you [?]
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 08 July 2005, 08:59:40 G'day passengerfan Al Help yourself to those bakery goodies from The Mentor Village Bakery .... no calories in 'em! That car you've been discussing with Rob - who manufactured it [?] And, I presume it is a smoothsides, correct [?] I have a consist of CN black & whites made by IHC, all smoothsides. Look great in my HO retired Canadian passenger rail display case. Been trying to find a matching diesel for some time .... Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 08 July 2005, 13:32:38 Morning Tom and the gang.. Some good news for me this morning, I've been selected for the advanced Anti-Terrorism task force course to be conducted by the good folks at NCIS next month. Over 200 applicants were considered for but two slots alotted to my organization, so yes, it came as a refreshing surprise. I see some of our gang put in appearance last evening..The girls were getting nervous with the lack of action, and not even a peep from Boris! Well I'm off to the cold cut bar, do me with some cold draft if you could please. Dave
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 08 July 2005, 13:49:15 G'day Dave Another slow day 'round here ..... but all that means to me is that our regulars have a life off of the Intenet! That isn't all so bad ....... I checked out that BTS site and found some items that I'll probably order for the trackside "stuff" I mentioned. Appreciate the tip. Man oh man, some of those buildings are super expensive. But then, what isn't with this size [?] Some time back I had asked you about your job - also indicated that it appeared we have (had) some things in common regarding our experiences. Should you find the time, drop me an Email and we can compare some "notes." Hope the selection works out to your benefit and of course to those you will be assigned to protect! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 08 July 2005, 14:30:09 Hi guys, seem to have finally beaten on-going tech. problems and made it back to the land of the living, Tom-a round for the house whilst I slip out back & catch up on summeries,E-mail etc,back in a bit nick
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 08 July 2005, 14:39:07 Tom Just a quick response the Dorcas Bay NYC 22 Roomette Sleeping Car was built by Pullman Standard .Just going out the door will post later.
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 08 July 2005, 14:44:54 NICK Great gobs of goose greese, is it really you [?] Boris ring the bell, drinks all 'round for the return of Chief Chef Nick! We await your post! Tom NICK READS THE SUMMARIES, Do you [?]
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 08 July 2005, 14:48:52 For passengerfan Al Thanx for half the answer! Await your return with the other half! Keep in mind, tonight is steak night - bar should be jumpin' - girls will be workin' - so, get your ticket punched from the other half, and we'll be waitin' for ya! Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 08 July 2005, 16:01:56 Tom I'm back the car was manufactured by P/S and was built in Chicago and delivered in the two tone gray with white separation stripes to match the lightening stripe PAs and E7s of the period the Dorcas Bay would have been pulled by both type power as it is known to have been assigned to the Detroiter and Wolverine. In CN service the car operated in the OCEAN, Scotian, Chaleur before summer assignment to Super Continental pool. The car also operated between Toronto -Montreal overnight in the Cavalier. As CN found less and less use for the all roomette cars they were operated as crew Dormitory cars in the Super Continentals winters only. Power for the trains the Val Brilliant operated in was either GMD FP9A -F9B or MLW FPA 4 FPB 4 or even MLW RS-18. Cars was still operational with Via when they acquired the FP40s
QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 08 July 2005, 16:27:06 For passengerfan Al Nice write up ...... okay, I'll presume it is a smoothsides, for all of the VIA equipment I ever saw in the blue/yellow livery were. Where did all this begin [?] Someone asked a question and here we are ......... Nevertheless, as our resident font of passenger rail info - THANX! Whatillyahave [?] Tom NOTE for all: Check the SUMMARIES
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 22:37:23 Dashed and balderdashed yet again! Are you 3/16" : 12" folks telling the "Mentor Village Idiot" (Theodorebear) that today's S gauge is not compatible with the Am. Flyer of yore? Please, inform me of the changes that have been made that allows for the huge price difference from "yore" 'til today, (COLA, notwithstanding)? I'm pretty sure that even a puriist S gauger would "kill" for some of early A.F. steam. Of course, you know I'm not referring to A.F.3rd rail a.c. (pre 1950's)! Tom I'll have whatever Nick can throw together for my late night repast. Good heavens Nick, please never abandon "Our" Place again! I have been taking terrible abuse from the palate to civilized sensibilities due to your reckless abandon. ] BTW, how is that 2 train controller working out? Al, soon with the Tome please; Minnie (the Moocher) is dying to see her picture on the Chessie (not C.S.X.) billboard. Many thanks to all for the copius data on "high" and"low" tech data from my previous inquiries. Your patience is most appreciated. But I still don't know what 7 tons of UPS is Gunns! To one and all, you should have a wonderful day tomorrow with the "wind to your back;" unless you are working with a torch anywhere near "THE SHED." Tom e-mail very soon, promise! Happy rails to you (key of G) Nick!
QUOTE: Gunns Posted: 09 July 2005, 00:44:36 Hi All, Coffee, Sorry thought I left a note this morning, the gremlins musta got it. Ted an UPS = uninterruptible power supply.... we have 5 that can carry 500 Kw each for 8 mikes, longer if the load is lower. They put out 480 Vac at 10,000 amps, and carry the critical load in our ARTCC. We also have 4 550Kw Gen Sets and 2 750Kw gen sets. the UPS is one of those "High Tech" night mares that the government likes to buy, very cutting edge all digital logic controlled inverters and rectifiers. And the "Annual" is a Bear, it takes a good solid 40 hrs to complete. Yesterday we were lucky only one dud cap out of 240, and no failed fans or X-formers. Tonight we get to start in on the alignment verification of all the Digital control cards, you know high at pin 37 = low at pin 4 on board A13b12........ Wow, Sandwiches! In other news I finally have all the letters cut out and mounted on the pattern for the Builders Plate for the 2926. Now I need to get my foundry set up and start casting. <still have about 2 days of prep work on the pattern though> Pix as soon as I can get the camera hooked to the simpit, and in to Rail Images. late all, Back to the salt mines. Gunns
QUOTE: Theodorebear Posted: 09 July 2005, 06:30:08 Gunns thanks for some of the definitions in your last Post. Tom you have mail. What metal are you using for casting the Builder's Plate and ditto for the caste itself? Surely it is too heavy for the "lost wax" technique? [#offtopic] Hit the gong Boris! Sorry if this post is rushed but we are having gale force winds from "feeder bands" around Dennis. I could be knocked off line at any time. Satellite T.V. isn't very reliable in this weather either. Hope everyone is doing better than I am just now. This is a good day for tweaking up the K.C. Union Station and other structures that are in need of serious "renewal." Its amazing what a toll "time and tide" take on a layout if you don't stay "on top" of it. Frankly, I did a "burn-out" close to a year ago and am just now playing catch-up. Guess I'd better make it strong black coffee for the duration of this "trash blower." Tom the Cutters are out "in force" from the St. Pete Station, also Clearwater Naval Air Station is busy. Looks like it will be a very long season for those folks this year. My hat is off to the courageous work these fine people perform for us "land lubbers." Okay, it’s back to the "ready room" for me. I may need to batten down (board-up) if Dennis takes a turn toward the East. See you folks later in the day...I hope. Ted
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