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[siberianmo]

nick Must have just missed you - anyway, thanx for being on top of the situation. The 24th, being a Friday, means we shouldn't have too much difficulty putting things together. Given that it's Pizza Night 'round here on Fridays, I'll create several Birthday Pizza's [yeah] that should work [tup]

Of course, you as the Chief Chef [C=:-)] have your own options and I'm not about to stand in your way ...... go for it! [tup] [swg]

Boris Done good - as he would say. [swg]

Your comments regarding the RR could just have easily applied to the Can-Am - so why not [?] [;)]

Now, earlydiesels Dan YOU are the MAN on the 24th -- plan to be here. [tup]

Been very quiet 'round here this Wednesday ........

See ya!
Tom

[West Coast S]

Evening tom and the gang, and a special get well to Chris..Dave from the left coast , lets see....Johnny Walker Black Label sounds about right.

So far a typical week , my CO as usual is in fine form,suggesting I resign my position and attend open mike night at the local comedy club, not that his orders were particulary amusing, just the rationale behind them or lack thereof.

Is it just me or have others encountered some scruffy UP power of late. On my TDY to Vegas most UP power looked like death warmed over. The BNSF seems to know to clean power.

I've been working for quite some time scanning over 400 negatives onto disc. These included N&W Alco High Hoods working Blueridge and my first railroad photo Sou 4501 also shot somewhere in Virginia.

The bulk is Cajon Pass from the early 80s and the commute operations in SF during SP times but there is the unusual, UP DD35 A/Bs taken in Utah and on cajon pass in the snow, lots of Rio Grande and a smattering of Western Pacific. Its amazing how I can recall each trip with clear detail all these years later.

For the record my Birthday was May 27, I don't brag about it too much, i'm a quiet, unassuming hermit at heart.

I'm feeling generous, whatever the gang is partaking in and how about I cover for some good Prime Rib as well, cooked to order with all the trimmings

Until later
Dave

[passengerfan]

Good Evening All,
Just time for Crown Royal with water back and a round for the house.
I have been doing some digging through old files I have been trying to find more information on the Columbine and Portland Rose. I guess because the UP was not my primary area of interest I never looked for or gathered information on them.
Ask me something simple like the Exposition Flyer and I have volumes on that train.

I am beginning to discover that I need to turn my attention to the older heavyweight trains of the twenties and thirties and the cars operated in those trains. I have thousands of pages of information on the streamliners and only a few hundred on the heavyweights.

I also went digging for information on the Dominion and found that the high speed express boxcar and monitor roof cars pulled by the Selkirk in the Dominion photo mentioned earlier could have been taken as late as 1953. Both types of cars were still painted solid Maroon and not unusual to see in the Dominion even after they were supplimented with the Budd cars in their consists. The CPR undertook a rebuilding program on many of their clerestory roof heavyweight cars when the installed complete air they looked like monitor roof cars and many had sealed windows installed at the same time flush with the car sides so were actually considered modernized heavyweights. Some of these cars were in service as late as the early 1960's.

I really need to start digging for information on the heavyweight trains. I have even found out my local state museum lacks a lot of information on this period as well.

Certain railroads heavyweight eras are well covered and information is readily available while many others their are great gaps in the information. If anyone out their has that type of information let your local historical societies know. It is important to get everything documented as less and mless is available each year.

Might as well join the B'day club i will be 63 next April. I tell the wife that would be a very good vintage for a wine she says in my case it would be vinegar!
By the way my railfan weekend last week plans fell through at the last minute so I'm not going to plan ahead the next time just take off and go.

Well must run for now.

[trolleyboy]

Hello.I trust everyone is well tonight.passengerAl Have you checked in with the CP and CN lines sig groups they may give you a bit more passengercar info. The TH&B sig group will give you some CPR and NYC/MC info as well since the TH&B was owned by both railways.Ted I sent you an e-mail but seeing as you are having the difficulties you were with verizon,drop me an e-mail with your new address and I'll resend.Well folks I'm in for an early evening tonight I'll pop by later. Rob

[passengerfan]

Well since I'm still hanging around set em up again and I agree with you Tom about the Gin and Tonic being a nice summer drink. Friend of mine drinks nothing but Tangeray says their is no other.
Trolleyboy My collection of information on CN and CP lightweight and heavyweight passenger equipment is very extensive. I also have very good coverage of the old Newfoundland Narrow Gauge and Ontario Northland. Even my TH&B isn't bad but where I'm lacking on your side of the border is on the old PG&E passenger equipment before the RDC's came along. I have reasonable coverage of the QNS&L as well.
On the US side I have excellent coverage on all lightweight streamlined cars I have good heavyweight coverage on GN NP SP&S SP and AT&SF in the far west but need UP WP. I also have good heavyweight info on the D&RGW but not the narrow gauge. The CB&Q I have lots of heavyweight info on but find I need the info on just about all the other granger roads. The Southwestern Roads could use heavyweight info on. The Southeast is lacking as is the Northeastern roads heavyweights.. Have pretty good info on the New England heavyweights. I guess I am just going to have to sit down and contact all of the societys and museums. I have found many in the past to be helpful and have purchased books they publish from several.
I am rather surprised at the lack of UP info on heavyweights as they operated so many trains.
Well must think about some shut eye and give my heavyweight library some more thought.

[Anonymous]

Top-o-the Marnin' to one and all. I'd planned to drop in last night but some maintenance on me e-mail account came up. Sure and it took me an hour just to find out who I really am! "Saints presarve us," if I ain't gettin' weary of baby sittin' software! Tom, I'll be havin' a Jameson's with a splash of Vernor's Gingeryale, if ya please. 'Tis the only way I can put this Oirish brogue to rest...curse of me Mither's ancestry, don't ya know. Thank ye kindred soul.

Say, it's as quiet as a Packard agency after the "crash of 29" hereabouts. If there are no objections, I'd like to put a few slugs in the Junk Juke Box? I have a yearning for Ella Fitzgerald singing "Take the 'A' Train" with the Count Basie Band at Birdland. It reminds me of my days off in N.Y.C. while working in the Catskill Mtns. area. Sometimes, I would drive down to the Harmon Beacon car ferry, cross the Hudson and grab a N. Y. Central to G.C. Terminal. Oh yes, a bee line to the club car, some shopping in the "City" and return (same day, same club car) draped in a pleasant (if uncognizant) "glow" of contenment.[swg] More than once the urge to up-grade my ticket to Canada nearly overcame me. Never had the time! Here, 45 years later, I can finally do something about that "urge" by joining you Gents in Toronto come Spring.[^]

Rob, I'll be sending an e-mail tut suit (sp.?"), re: my new "Addy." Hope all is going well with house hunting for both you guys. I know what a drag it is- - having moved "bag bungalow and baggage" 7 times. [C-:-)] Nick, looks like you'll be busy carving the Prime Rib for Dave, so please, "throw" in a end-cut (au jus) for me as well. Tom I've got more on the "Sentimental Journey" coming your way (e-mail), even though its a while before you need it. Hey Boris, lookin' good in your new "whites!" Pluggin' Tom for a raise, eh? Ted

[Anonymous]

[:O] Oh, Bobfarkus? Don't ask me! Its' an old alias I used on other forums but F.Y.I., its really me, Ted.

[siberianmo]

THURSDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

G’morning all! Thursday has arrived and ‘round these parts it’s a glorious beginning to what has been forecast to be a very nice day. I’m off to Illinois this morning for my 4-5 week ‘round of chores at our local AFB. Kind of a boring 52 mile drive (one way), but if one is to take advantage of the few remaining “benefits” of military retirement, one has to go where the “action” is.

On to the SUMMARY

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 15:10:38
earlydiesels Dan has just reported that he will be 43 on June 24th .....

REVISED 2005 BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) - May 18th (Tom - 67) – June 24th (Dan - 43) - July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

Calling Party Coordinator Nick Calling Party Coordinator Nick .......... Hey Boris, c'mon out of your shed and go find Nick [swg]

Nice to have another regular on board with the Birthday program [tup] [yeah]

Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 16:23:05
Tom, Hi- First, an apology- I had intended no slight on the Can-Am, which I wouldn`t presume to alter in any way- The paragraph was for Dennis & Jeri but poor sentence constuction masked my intentions, right that’s sorted-

Drinks for all!! Just popped in for a couple of quickies whilst Herself is out counting bats ( honest )-

found Boris down the road being restrained by Insp. Cliwliss,muttering "Master say find" over & over- Ah I see- the 24th -Friday week --MIDSUMMERS DAY--a most auspicious night for natal revels--the culmination of the Beltane festival in pagan times ( and still a pretty fair knees-up in these parts, the Celtic heritage and all that. ah she returns, back later nick

[C=:-)]

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 16:40:26
Nick Must have just missed you - anyway, thanx for being on top of the situation. The 24th, being a Friday, means we shouldn't have too much difficulty putting things together. Given that it's Pizza Night 'round here on Fridays, I'll create several Birthday Pizza's [yeah] that should work [tup]

Of course, you as the Chief Chef [C=:-)] have your own options and I'm not about to stand in your way ...... go for it! [tup] [swg]

Boris Done good - as he would say.[swg]
Your comments regarding the RR could just have easily applied to the Can-Am - so why not [?][;)]

Now, earlydiesels Dan YOU are the MAN on the 24th -- plan to be here. [tup]

Been very quiet 'round here this Wednesday ........

See ya!
Tom

QUOTE: West Coast S Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 20:10:40
Evening Tomand the gang, and a special get well to Chris.. Dave from the left coast , lets see....Johnny Walker Black Label sounds about right.

So far a typical week , my CO as usual is in fine form, suggesting I resign my position and attend open mike night at the local comedy club, not that his orders were particulary amusing, just the rationale behind them or lack thereof.

Is it just me or have others encountered some scruffy UP power of late. On my TDY to Vegas most UP power looked like death warmed over. The BNSF seems to know to clean power.

I've been working for quite some time scanning over 400 negatives onto disc. These included N&W Alco High Hoods working Blueridge and my first railroad photo Sou 4501 also shot somewhere in Virginia.

The bulk is Cajon Pass from the early 80s and the commute operations in SF during SP times but there is the unusual, UP DD35 A/Bs taken in Utah and on Cajon pass in the snow, lots of Rio Grande and a smattering of Western Pacific. Its amazing how I can recall each trip with clear detail all these years later.

For the record my Birthday was May 27, I don't brag about it too much, I'm a quiet, unassuming hermit at heart.

I'm feeling generous, whatever the gang is partaking in and how about I cover for some good Prime Rib as well, cooked to order with all the trimmings

Until later
Dave

Hey Dave – good seeing you again! [tup] Having been in the position a few times, CO’s can “be that way.” So what’s wrong with humor [?] Timing, I would guess …. [swg] Been there, done that many, times. Always seemed to have that spontaneity at my disposal.

I used to make the drive between Long Beach and Laughlin, NV on a monthly basis over a two year period. Saw some really interesting trains back then (1986-88) between San Bernadino and Barstow. Also used to fly with the Sheriff’s Dept. (helicopters) out of San Bernadino and through “the pass,” some of those flights had a pucker factor of 10 for sure. Saw some really long freights …. Ah, the good old days. [swg]

Anyway, these days unless I’m traveling aboard Amtrak or VIA Rail, my train watching has been reduced to model railroading. Ain’t bad, ain’t bad at all. [tup]

Would love to post your Birthday on our Birthday Watch List, however we need the age to go with it ……. Can’t have a party without that detail to revel in. [swg]

Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 21:10:32
Good Evening All,
Just time for Crown Royal with water back and a round for the house.

I have been doing some digging through old files I have been trying to find more information on the Columbine and Portland Rose. I guess because the UP was not my primary area of interest I never looked for or gathered information on them.
Ask me something simple like the Exposition Flyer and I have volumes on that train.

I am beginning to discover that I need to turn my attention to the older heavyweight trains of the twenties and thirties and the cars operated in those trains. I have thousands of pages of information on the streamliners and only a few hundred on the heavyweights.

I also went digging for information on the Dominion and found that the high speed express boxcar and monitor roof cars pulled by the Selkirk in the Dominion photo mentioned earlier could have been taken as late as 1953. Both types of cars were still painted solid Maroon and not unusual to see in the Dominion even after they were supplemented with the Budd cars in their consists. The CPR undertook a rebuilding program on many of their clerestory roof heavyweight cars when the installed complete air they looked like monitor roof cars and many had sealed windows installed at the same time flush with the car sides so were actually considered modernized heavyweights. Some of these cars were in service as late as the early 1960's.

I really need to start digging for information on the heavyweight trains. I have even found out my local state museum lacks a lot of information on this period as well.

Certain railroads heavyweight eras are well covered and information is readily available while many others there are great gaps in the information. If anyone out there has that type of information let your local historical societies know. It is important to get everything documented as less and less is available each year.

Might as well join the B'day club I will be 63 next April. I tell the wife that would be a very good vintage for a wine she says in my case it would be vinegar!
By the way my railfan weekend last week plans fell through at the last minute so I'm not going to plan ahead the next time just take off and go.

Well must run for now.

Your Birthday info will be incorporated into the next revision of our Birthday Watch List Thanx for participating ….. [tup] [tup]

Memories of travel aboard heavyweights – the heat – the stuffiness – the smell of the seats – the vendor’s walking through the cars selling drinks, sandwiches, candy, etc. at major station stops. As a kid it was the Pennsy or B&O between NYC and Baltimore or WashDC. Later as a young man it was the NH between NYC and New London, CT. Also as a kid (15) a round trip between NYC and Santa Ana, CA in a B&O heavyweight with those seats that converted into flat surfaces, some called beds! Great for our sleeping bags, as the trainload of Boy Scouts headed off to a Jamboree in 1953. [yeah] I can relate to the heavyweights ……. And I’m not just speaking of some of the gals I’ve met at closing time [}:)]

A trip through nostalgia each and every time I see a picture of one or look at my models on display in my Can-Am trainroom.

Thanx for the continuing input on this wonderful time in railroading history …..
Tom

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 23:12:24
Hello. I trust everyone is well tonight.

passengerAl Have you checked in with the CP and CN lines sig groups they may give you a bit more passenger car info. The TH&B sig group will give you some CPR and NYC/MC info as well since the TH&B was owned by both railways.

Ted I sent you an e-mail but seeing as you are having the difficulties you were with Verizon, drop me an e-mail with your new address and I'll resend.

Well folks I'm in for an early evening tonight I'll pop by later. Rob

Blue Jays 5 – Cardinals 2 [wow] Another good pitching performance and for those watching a good three game set. First time in months that the Cards dropped a series. So, regardless of what the standings show, it’s just like that old football adage –

QUOTE: On any given day, any team can beat any other

(Or something like that …..)

Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 15 Jun 2005, 23:53:40
Well since I'm still hanging around set em up again and I agree with you

Tom about the Gin and Tonic being a nice summer drink. Friend of mine drinks nothing but Tangeray says there is no other.

Trolleyboy My collection of information on CN and CP lightweight and heavyweight passenger equipment is very extensive. I also have very good coverage of the old Newfoundland Narrow Gauge and Ontario Northland. Even my TH&B isn't bad but where I'm lacking on your side of the border is on the old PG&E passenger equipment before the RDC's came along. I have reasonable coverage of the QNS&L as well.

On the US side I have excellent coverage on all lightweight streamlined cars I have good heavyweight coverage on GN NP SP&S SP and AT&SF in the far west but need UP WP. I also have good heavyweight info on the D&RGW but not the narrow gauge. The CB&Q I have lots of heavyweight info on but find I need the info on just about all the other granger roads. The Southwestern Roads could use heavyweight info on. The Southeast is lacking as is the Northeastern roads heavyweights.. Have pretty good info on the New England heavyweights. I guess I am just going to have to sit down and contact all of the societies and museums. I have found many in the past to be helpful and have purchased books they publish from several.
I am rather surprised at the lack of UP info on heavyweights as they operated so many trains.
Well must think about some shut eye and give my heavyweight library some more thought.

G'nite passengerfan Al Count heavyweights jumping over fences. [?] [}:)]
Tom

QUOTE: Bobfarkus Posted: Today, 07:58:00
Top-o-the Marnin' to one and all. I'd planned to drop in last night but some maintenance on me e-mail account came up. Sure and it took me an hour just to find out who I really am! "Saints presarve us," if I ain't gettin' weary of baby sittin' software!

Tom, I'll be havin' a Jameson's with a splash of Vernor's Gingeryale, if ya please. 'Tis the only way I can put this Oirish brogue to rest...curse of me Mither's ancestry, don't ya know. Thank ye kindred soul.

Say, it's as quiet as a Packard agency after the "crash of 29" hereabouts. If there are no objections, I'd like to put a few slugs in the Junk Juke Box? I have a yearning for Ella Fitzgerald singing "Take the 'A' Train" with the Count Basie Band at Birdland. It reminds me of my days off in N.Y.C. while working in the Catskill Mtns. area. Sometimes, I would drive down to the Harmon Beacon car ferry, cross the Hudson and grab a N. Y. Central to G.C. Terminal. Oh yes, a bee line to the club car, some shopping in the "City" and return (same day, same club car) draped in a pleasant (if uncognizant) "glow" of contentment[swg] More than once the urge to up-grade my ticket to Canada nearly overcame me. Never had the time! Here, 45 years later, I can finally do something about that "urge" by joining you Gents in Toronto come Spring. [^]

Rob, I'll be sending an e-mail tut suit (sp.?"), re: my new "Addy." Hope all is going well with house hunting for both you guys. I know what a drag it is- - having moved "bag bungalow and baggage" 7 times. [C-:-)]
Nick, looks like you'll be busy carving the Prime Rib for Dave, so please, "throw" in a end-cut (au jus) for me as well.
Tom I've got more on the "Sentimental Journey" coming your way (e-mail), even though its a while before you need it. Hey Boris, lookin' good in your new "whites!" Pluggin' Tom for a raise, eh? Ted

I KNEW it even before I read it – ain’t no way this can be for real Bobfarkus [yeah] right! Anyway, no problems ‘round here – we’ll still call you Ted [swg] [tup] We all have those multiple personalities, just some of us don’t let ‘em out that often!

Pay for Boris [?] You'll have to speak with Nick about that ... I seriously doubt that the concept of money has made it to Boris' grey matter. [swg]

Book that trip aboard the NYC and I'll go with you! [tup]

I’m familiar with the Catskills – do you know Cairo? Spent some couple of weeks there, spread over a few summers. Also, Boy Scout camp was near a place called Narrowsburg, NY. Many, many summers there as a camper and later as counselor. Great place with even greater memories. Ahhhhhhhh [^]
Thanx for the continuing inputs, spliced with some great twists! [tup] [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: Bobfarkus Posted: Today, 08:06:14
Oh, Bobfarkus [?]? Don't ask me! Its' an old alias I used on other forums but F.Y.I., its really me, Ted.

We got it! Oh [yeah], we got it! [swg]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place

[Anonymous]

Sorry Tom, "Cairo and Narrowsburg" are new ones on me. I worked 3 seasons in the Monticello area. My summers were at The Pines (Resort Hotel) in South Fallsburg, N.Y. in the staff "Show Band" (trombone) from Memorial to Labor Day. Played lots of good Acts, many that later became "headliners" and others who already were. But, before I become mired in "memory lane," let me "foot" a 'round for everyone at this "Happy Mealtime."[swg] Oh Boris, a hot Pastrami San. with a spread of Guldens, a Kosher wedge and cole slaw for "old time's sake," please. I had a good time but it was "slim pickens" for any rail action. What's this? Boris answered the phone with: "on Rye or Whole Wheat," looked at me and said: "Hello, Our" Place!" Nick has his hands full, doesn't he?

This is about as far away from "Topic" as can be imagined but while in N.Y.C., I developed a morbid curiosity for the Subway trains. I would ride the IRT, 7th Ave from Fordham Rd. (station) downtown to G.C. Station and thence to several Jazz venues on days off. On several occassions, I took trains from "end-to-end" especially the Coney Island (BMT) and Queens Trains. What was lacking in scenery, was more than made up for, in the bazaar demeanor and dress of the "Ridership." Mind you, this was in the early 60's before "Flower Children" had fully bloomed on the Coast. I guess when you consider the size and complexity of subway systems (especially the "Underground" in London); "classic" is an apt description?[^]

Oh thanks Boris, I uh...the pickle does not go on the inside of the sandwich Boris! Godfrey Daniel! [:(!] Tom, would you please have a word with Nick? I'd give a care what next may happen to a "grouchy" customer. Okay, gotta drop by J. Salvatores' bicycle shop/branch Post Office and check on some mail to Rob. Take care all, Ted

[nickinwestwales]

Well good evening all,somewhat the worse for wear so wont stay long,---BOBFARKUS-you seem strangley familiar---have we met before...??????..........No,It`s no use,It`s bedtime-band practice with the proper band tonight (pretend to be keith richards for the evening,too much beer,speak tomorrow,nick[C=:-)]

[siberianmo]

Hi Gang! Fish 'n Chips tonight and NO Nick's Pick's [dinner] Seems the Chief Chef [C=:-)] has decided in favor of a good night's rest ... [zzz]

The gals are here, all four of 'em [tup] [:-,] and they ARE lookin' good!

I see the track gang in the back and one guy nearly got the pool table lifted, that is until he got himself into a laughing fit over Boris trying to figure out what those bowling balls over there in the corner will ultimately hatch out to be. [swg]

Oh yes - almost forgot - here's the:
REVISED (once again) BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) - April [?] (Al - 63) - May 18th (Tom - 67) – May 27th (Dave - [?] - June 24th (Dan - 43) - July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

C'mon Al & Dave - [#oops] fill in the blanks ........

Okay, okay, I'm comin' - six Kokanee's, three Buds, a Coor's Light, Jack on the rocks, Vodka hold the tonic and a bubble dourbon ... Boris take that guy's car keys away .[:-,] ... no, we don't do Grasshoppers 'round here ....... Geesh! [;)]

Tom

[passengerfan]

Good evening all! How about a double Crown Royal with water back and another round for the house.
Sorry Tom for the blank it is the 18th.
Have been working on a book for lengthy period of time now it just keeps growing on guess what you say the streamliners. Already it exceeds 200 hundred pages and that is without a single picture. Guess it will have to be done in volumes if anyone is interested.
Otherwise it is going to make the California State Rairoad Museum very happy.
I still have to find some time for the other projects I have going such as gathering information on the heavyweight trains and their consists.
Well must stop for now and do the dishes. We have a deal I do the dishes the better half cooks. I cook she does the dishes.

[CFournier]

BONSOIR MES AMIS!
Tom, a shot of Maker's Mark with a cold Double Diamond will you please.
In fact, I shouldnt touch the stuff 'cause I'm still in a hospital room! The surgery takes more time to heal than what was planed by the learned shammans and wizards. I hope I will be out for Father's Day! My son Thomas (6 y. old) is really taking it hard and it does terrible things to everyones morale. Anyway, hanging in there. Nick I can't take hospital food anymore [}:)][xx(][:(!] I will have one h**l of a good meal when they let me out! Please prepare a little quelque chose pour moi!
The spring reunion is very tempting and I could easily make it by train travel, of course. But I can't be shure for now, will probably ask you to countme in as a 'maybe'[8)Now Classic Trains talk. I plan to spend a day with Thomas at the Delson museum after my recovery and will take pictures to post on this site. There are lots of steam power and passenger cars to look at and to step in.
I have some train movies on VHS and CD's
A 3 pack on passenger travel on The Canadian in the Rockies, travel in the Copper canyon in Mexico, and on the Adirondack.
An old black and white promotional movie of the California Zephir.[:)]
Many cassettes on steam excursions and tourist lines.
The blue Mountains division of the UP.
Narrow gauge in Colorado.
Pocahontas division of the NS.( any of tou ever traveled on the Powathan Arrow?)
The CP's Canadian pulled by Marroon and grey EMD'S
and more...
I'm interested in RR around SF bay and the Monterey peninsula, and the Feather River Canyon. But no footage of any of those...
Got to go to bed, have a good night and remember to [b]keep your stick on the ice![/b
CHRIS, up the North shore.[:D]

[Anonymous]

Yes passengerfan...Hoorah! You will make a "bundle" on the "Streamliners" book; if it is published. Not to worry , if there is a lack of: "Southwest, South, Southeast and Northeast" data... who cares? I wish you all the best on this singular "tour-de-force."

[C=:-)] Nick, Bob Farkus played Principal French Horn with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Fritz Reiner for 30 years but lacked knowledge for proper "nutrition" (couldn't you die either way)? Yes Jemima, I should like to buy these "Regulars" a 'round. Oh BTW, Jemima, your "private" lessons on the instrument of your choice are assured, gratuitously in my studio. [;)]

No takers on the subway/underground so far? "CriminItlens," where is everybody's sense of humor? Everything can't be Judy Garland's "Harvey's Girls" and "Bombradiers Coaches" from here out [zzz]! Right, I've been here too long and mussen "fahren nacht zu Haus," lest Mahta opts for the CanAm 11: 18 p.m.! [:O]

Oh, by the way Tom, could you check with Inspector Clueless on the last name of "Hari" from Hungary? [:O] Matah is taking a peculiar interest in the "wireless" you gave Boris in the shed! I'm thinking "Left Coast" might also be curious? Good night all and happy rails, Ted

[passengerfan]

Chris forgot my manners earlier so busy rambling. Glad to hear the worst is over and you may make it home for fathers day. It is bad enough that your six year old has his father in the hospital. Young ones have a difficult time understanding hospitals but hopefully he will have you home for fathers day and fifty years from now will be able to remember how his father got out of the hospital for fathers day when he was six. My daughter was pretty young when I was in the hospital with my first pneumothorax and could not understand why they would not let her visit. I hope hosptal rules have changed and that your son is permitted to visit . It will mean so much to him and help him overcome his fears.
Good luck on the road to recovery.

[trolleyboy]

Hello everyone.Didn't make it by last night but just had to stop in for the fish and chips. I see that Boris and the lobster have kissed and made up since last weeks brawl.Looks like those welts are almost gone Boris that's great,just don't do that in public again though please noe of us need to see that um side of you.Ted er Bob? I recieved your e-mail and have replied. It's funny you mention the subway.Heather and I tend to head to TO once a year or so,we usually grab a day TTC pass and ride the under and surface rail mostly for the heck of it.At least we can get to yorkdale or the ROM via subway as well. These trips normally start and end with a Via train ride as well, so best of both worlds really. Ruthie my dear I'll grab two orders of the F&C and a couple of guiness's for the road. Talk to everyone tomorrow. Rob

[Anonymous]

T.G.I.F? Just another day for this "old duffer." I see Internet Trains is now carying the monthly Walther's Sales Catalogue. Most LHS will honor the prices listed in "print," so it may be best to "hang on" to the "hard copy." I would like to add sound (Digitrax, etc.) to my Aristo Doodlebug but, to date, no company has emulated the "traction/gasoline engine" effect. The "rail bus" sounds just aren't the same, nor are 2 cycle Diesel engine effects accurate. What to do?[:(!] Don't wi***o turn this into a typical "modelers" site... just frustrated!

Chris, I know the "hard road" you're traveling is a big "downer." Please keep in mind, we are all "in your corner" and the seemingly trivial things we take for granted are going to take on a whole new dimension when you are released. I'm no philosopher, however, I've learned that after serious adversity, a new focus on things comes into view. For now, just "roll with the punches." I believe we walk away from these trials better and stronger than before. Tom, may I offer a toast to Chris's safe recovery? Here, here!

I've heard that a few of the "track gang" never regained their natural voices from the "pool table lifting" promo. No problem! Three are now members of the Vienna State Boys Choir and another is singing Castrate Tenor with the "Met."[tup] "All is well that ends well," no?

Passengerfan, my library has precious little on the old P.G.E. Ry (British Columbia), however, I found their first locomotive was a Manning, Wardle of Leeds (England, 1874). It was acquired when P.G. E. bought the Howe Sound and Northern Ry in 1912. The Company's first "new" loco was #51, (Montreal Locomotive Works) purchased in 1913. Number 51 and sister #52 were scrapped in 1954. The business agenda was, of course, primarily freight and passenger service made slow but welcomed progress on the line. I hope this is of some value, though it surely isn't much to go on. Best of luck with your book..."good hunting!"

Okay, a 'round for all please Proprietor Tom, meanwhile I need to ankle over to Hubert's "Eat Here, Get Gas Ltd." and retrieve my taupe (monkey puke) colored Crayolla. Laugh if you will but at least I'm not making payments. Happy rails.

[Anonymous]

Good evening Y'all. Oops, I blew it. I guess that the last couple of times I was in Boris was subbing for Tom at the bar and I got a little confused. Sorry, Tom. Not trying to steal your thunder.

Got a gin story to tell. Last night my bride of 43 years and I went to Chili's for dinner. They have Bombay Sapphire gin so we ordered two Bombay Sapphire martinis up with a twist. It turns out that Chili's has a special Bombay Sapphire martini. It is Bombay Sapphire with a little curacel (SP??) which gave it a blue color and it tasted sweet. Now there is a very expensive gin called Magellan that is blue but it is not sweet. The Bombay Sapphire is in a blue glass bottle, however, when poured it is clear. After a small discussion with the bar keep we got the right stuff. The evening did turn out fine afterall. Chili's is the best restaurant in Gun Barrel City (GBC). By Dallas standards it is a middle line restaurant-better than Denny's or McDonalds, but not as good as Mortons,etc. What can you expect for a country home? If anyone in the inn tonight has connections with a upscale restaurant chain tell them to come to GBC. We even do not have a Starbucks! (Need that also).

A small overnight hiatus here. Had to catch my train or it would be a long walk home. Just got back from the doctor after getting my shots so I can go to Libya in a week. Most of my travel is to Europe where shots are not required, however, Africa is a different story.

Let me conclude with a short train story. When I as growing up (still am) in the '50s the C&O still ran wooden caboose(or is it cabeese?) on some of their coal drags in southern West Virginia. We would get cattail reeds and tape nails to them. We would hide in the brush and wait for a train to pass. If it had a wooden caboose we would stand up and with our bows shoot several of our homemade "arrows" into the caboose. When the train came to the next town it looked like it came from Fort Apache. This was great fun until one day we were playing tag football in our front yard when a car pulled up. It was the C&O railway police who confronted us about shooting the cabooses. Naturally we denied it, but got the message and never shot another caboose.

***

[siberianmo]

FRIDAY SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS (edited)

Happy Friday, Regulars of “Our” Place! [tup] [yeah]

Some quick hits:
RENDEZVOUS deadline is prior to Monday’s SUMMARY regarding WHEN to schedule it. Communicate your thoughts to me by Email if you please. Thanx!

Birthday Watch List We now have 9 of 10 regulars signed up …. Next revision will include any missing or corrected info recently submitted.

Birthday Party Next Friday, the 24th, is earlydiesels Dan’s 43rd Birthday. Party Coordinator Nick and his trusty sidekick, Boris are on top of things ….. [?] Plan to stop in that evening and extend your best wishes to one of “Our” Place’s own. [tup] [tup]

Okay, now for the SUMMARY

QUOTE: Bobfarkus Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 11:27:57
Sorry Tom, "Cairo and Narrowsburg" are new ones on me. I worked 3 seasons in the Monticello area. My summers were at The Pines (Resort Hotel) in South Fallsburg, N.Y. in the staff "Show Band" (trombone) from Memorial to Labor Day. Played lots of good Acts, many that later became "headliners" and others who already were. But, before I become mired in "memory lane," let me "foot" a 'round for everyone at this "Happy Mealtime."[swg] Oh Boris, a hot Pastrami San. with a spread of Guldens, a Kosher wedge and cole slaw for "old time's sake," please. I had a good time but it was "slim pickens" for any rail action. What's this? Boris answered the phone with: "on Rye or Whole Wheat," looked at me and said: "Hello, Our" Place!" Nick has his hands full, doesn't he?

This is about as far away from "Topic" as can be imagined but while in N.Y.C., I developed a morbid curiosity for the Subway trains. I would ride the IRT, 7th Ave from Fordham Rd. (station) downtown to G.C. Station and thence to several Jazz venues on days off. On several occasions, I took trains from "end-to-end" especially the Coney Island (BMT) and Queens Trains. What was lacking in scenery, was more than made up for, in the bazaar demeanor and dress of the "Ridership." Mind you, this was in the early 60's before "Flower Children" had fully bloomed on the Coast. I guess when you consider the size and complexity of subway systems (especially the "Underground" in London); "classic" is an apt description? [^]

Oh thanks Boris, I uh...the pickle does not go on the inside of the sandwich Boris! Godfrey Daniel! [:(!] Tom, would you please have a word with Nick? I'd give a care what next may happen to a "grouchy" customer.
Okay, gotta drop by J. Salvatores' bicycle shop/branch Post Office and check on some mail toRob. Take care all, Ted

From the Catskills to Boris to Subways to Boris, my oh my – we do cover the spectrum ‘round here. Being on this side of the bar is quite a treat.

I think the best we can do with our rather dim light bulb is to take him as he is. Under Nick’s supervision he does marginally awful, on his own it’s a ‘nother matter.

Subways are classic especially those of NYC. I could easily fill a page or three with stories of my own strap hanging days. [swg]
Tom

QUOTE: nickinwestwales Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 19:05:06
Well good evening all, somewhat the worse for wear so wont stay long,---BOBFARKUS -you seem strangely familiar---have we met before...??????..........No, It`s no use, It`s bedtime-band practice with the proper band tonight (pretend to be Keith Richards for the evening, too much beer,speak tomorrow, nick

[C=:-)]

QUOTE: siberianmo Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 19:50:27
Hi Gang! Fish 'n Chips tonight and NO Nick's Pick's [dinner]Seems the Chief Chef [C=:-)] has decided in favor of a good night's rest ... [zzz]

The gals are here, all four of 'em [tup] [:-,] and they ARE lookin' good!

I see the track gang in the back and one guy nearly got the pool table lifted, that is until he got himself into a laughing fit over Boris trying to figure out what those bowling balls over there in the corner will ultimately hatch out to be. [swg]

Oh yes - almost forgot - here's the:
REVISED (once again) BIRTHDAY WATCH LIST: March 5th (Nick – 45) - April [?](Al - 63) - May 18th (Tom - 67) – May 27th (Dave – [?]- June 24th (Dan - 43) - July 15th (*** – 65) - July 25th (Chris - 51) - August 16th (Ted - 67) - September 8th (Rob - 34)

C'mon Al & Dave – [oops] fill in the blanks ........

Okay, okay, I'm comin' - six Kokanee's, three Buds, a Coor's Light, Jack on the rocks, Vodka hold the tonic and a bubble dourbon ... Boris take that guy's car keys away . [:-,] ... no, we don't do Grasshoppers 'round here ....... Geesh! [;)]

Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 20:33:22
Good evening all! How about a double Crown Royal with water back and another round for the house.

Sorry Tom for the blank it is the 18th.

Have been working on a book for lengthy period of time now it just keeps growing on guess what you say the streamliners. Already it exceeds 200 hundred pages and that is without a single picture. Guess it will have to be done in volumes if anyone is interested.

Otherwise it is going to make the California State Railroad Museum very happy.
I still have to find some time for the other projects I have going such as gathering information on the heavyweight trains and their consists.

Well must stop for now and do the dishes. We have a deal I do the dishes the better half cooks. I cook she does the dishes.

Keep us posted on the book progress. Based on what I’ve read from you on these pages and my other venture, Canadian Passenger Trains – Let’s Talk! – it ought to be a winner! [tup]

I must be doing something wrong – I do the dishes AND the cooking!
Tom’

QUOTE: CFournier Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 21:23:39
BONSOIR MES AMIS!
Tom, a shot of Maker's Mark with a cold Double Diamond will you please.
In fact, I shouldn’t touch the stuff 'cause I'm still in a hospital room! The surgery takes more time to heal than what was planed by the learned shammans and wizards. I hope I will be out for Father's Day! My son Thomas (6 y. old) is really taking it hard and it does terrible things to everyones morale. Anyway, hanging in there.

Nickcan't take hospital food anymore [}:)] [xx(][:(!] will have one h**l of a good meal when they let me out! Please prepare a little quelque chose pour moi!

The spring reunion is very tempting and I could easily make it by train travel, of course. But I can't be sure for now, will probably ask you to count me in as a 'maybe'[8)]

Now Classic Trains talk. I plan to spend a day with Thomas at the Delson museum after my recovery and will take pictures to post on this site. There are lots of steam power and passenger cars to look at and to step in.

I have some train movies on VHS and CD's

A 3 pack on passenger travel on The Canadian in the Rockies, travel in the Copper canyon in Mexico, and on the Adirondack.

An old black and white promotional movie of the California Zephyr.[swg]

Many cassettes on steam excursions and tourist lines.

The blue Mountains division of the UP.

Narrow gauge in Colorado.

Pocahontas division of the NS.( any of you ever traveled on the Powathan Arrow?)

The CP's Canadian pulled by Maroon and grey EMD'S and more...

I'm interested in RR around SF bay and the Monterey peninsula, and the Feather River Canyon. But no footage of any of those...

Got to go to bed, have a good night and remember to keep your stick on the ice!
CHRIS, up the North shore.

[:D]
[#welcome] back, Chris and hope that your wish comes true for your return home by Father’s Day! [tup]

Rendezvous plans WILL include you. Montreal to Toronto IS a piece of cake and we’re simply not going to let you off the hook. Plan on it, for we’re counting on you to be there! [tup] [tup] [;)]

My video collection is extremely modest compared to what you’ve listed. Nevertheless, from time to time, it’s a most enjoyable way to get lost in it all. Next to being there, it’s the next best thing. [;)]

FULL and SPEEDY RECOVERY!
Tom

QUOTE: Bobfarkus Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 22:42:58
Yes passengerfan...Hoorah! You will make a "bundle" on the "Streamliners" book; if it is published. Not to worry , if there is a lack of: "Southwest, South, Southeast and Northeast" data... who cares? I wish you all the best on this singular "tour-de-force."

[C=:-)] Nick, Bob Farkus played Principal French Horn with the Chicago Symphony Orchestra under the baton of Fritz Reiner for 30 years but lacked knowledge for proper "nutrition" (couldn't you die either way)? YesJemima, I should like to buy these "Regulars" a 'round. Oh BTW, Jemima, your "private" lessons on the instrument of your choice are assured, gratuitously in my studio. [swg]

No takers on the subway/underground so far? "CriminItlens," where is everybody's sense of humor? Everything can't be Judy Garland's "Harvey's Girls" and "Bombardiers Coaches" from here out [zzz]! Right, I've been here too long and mussen "fahren nacht zu Haus," lest Matah opts for the CanAm 11: 18 p.m.! [:O]

Oh, by the way Tom, could you check with Inspector Clueless on the last name of "Hari" from Hungary? [:O] Matah is taking a peculiar interest in the "wireless" you gave Boris in the shed! I'm thinking "Left Coast" might also be curious? Good night all and happy rails, Ted

Special accommodations aboard the Can-Am Limited for Matah … just have her let me know when! [tup]
You’ve just got to dump that Farkus moniker. Even Boris cringes at the sound! [tdn]
Tom

QUOTE: passengerfan Posted: 16 Jun 2005, 22:55:40
Chris forgot my manners earlier so busy rambling. Glad to hear the worst is over and you may make it home for Fathers day. It is bad enough that your six year old has his father in the hospital. Young ones have a difficult time understanding hospitals but hopefully he will have you home for Fathers day and fifty years from now will be able to remember how his father got out of the hospital for Fathers day when he was six. My daughter was pretty young when I was in the hospital with my first pneumothorax and could not understand why they would not let her visit. I hope hospital rules have changed and that your son is permitted to visit . It will mean so much to him and help him overcome his fears.
Good luck on the road to recovery.

QUOTE: trolleyboy Posted: 17 June 2005, 00:13:19
Hello everyone.

Didn't make it by last night but just had to stop in for the fish and chips.

I see that Boris and the lobster have kissed and made up since last weeks brawl. Looks like those welts are almost gone Boris that's great, just don't do that in public again though please none of us need to see that um side of you.

Ted er Bob? I recieved your e-mail and have replied. It's funny you mention the subway. Heather and I tend to head to TO once a year or so, we usually grab a day TTC pass and ride the under and surface rail mostly for the heck of it. At least we can get to Yorkdale or the ROM via subway as well. These trips normally start and end with a Via train ride as well, so best of both worlds really.

Ruthie my dear I'll grab two orders of the F&C and a couple of Guiness' for the road. Talk to everyone tomorrow. Rob

Take note of Chris being added to our Rendezvous list. [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: Bobfarkus Posted: Today, 08:59:25
T.G.I.F? Just another day for this "old duffer." I see Internet Trains is now carrying the monthly Walther's Sales Catalogue. Most LHS will honor the prices listed in "print," so it may be best to "hang on" to the "hard copy." I would like to add sound (Digitrax, etc.) to my Aristo Doodlebug but, to date, no company has emulated the "traction/gasoline engine" effect. The "rail bus" sounds just aren't the same, nor are 2 cycle Diesel engine effects accurate. What to do? [:(!] Don't wi***o turn this into a typical "modelers" site... just frustrated!

Chris, I know the "hard road" you're traveling is a big "downer." Please keep in mind, we are all "in your corner" and the seemingly trivial things we take for granted are going to take on a whole new dimension when you are released. I'm no Philosopher, however, I've learned that after serious adversity, a new focus on things comes into view. For now, just "roll with the punches." I believe we walk away from these trials better and stronger than before.
Tom, may I offer a toast to Chris' safe recovery? Here, here!

I've heard that a few of the "track gang" never regained their natural voices from the "pool table lifting" promo. No problem! Three are now members of the Vienna State Boys Choir and another is singing Castrate Tenor with the "Met." [tup] "All is well that ends well," no?

Passengerfan, my library has precious little on the old P.G.E. Ry (British Columbia), however, I found their first locomotive was a Manning, Wardle of Leeds (England, 1874). It was acquired when P.G. E. bought the Howe Sound and Northern Ry in 1912. The Company's first "new" loco was #51, (Montreal Locomotive Works) purchased in 1913. Number 51 and sister #52 were scrapped in 1954. The business agenda was, of course, primarily freight and passenger service made slow but welcomed progress on the line. I hope this is of some value, though it surely isn't much to go on. Best of luck with your book..."good hunting!"

Okay, a 'round for all please Proprietor Tom, meanwhile I need to ankle over to Hubert's "Eat Here, Get Gas Ltd." and retrieve my taupe (monkey puke) colored Crayolla. Laugh if you will but at least I'm not making payments. Happy rails.

Well, I’m happy that there is another way to access those Walther’s sale catalogs aside from actually having one. Never understood Walther’s reluctance to open up a site, especially when they called themselves the Terminal Hobby Shop. And no, you’re not turning this into anything it wasn’t intended to be. Talk of Classic Trains real or model is certainly within bounds. Trust me, the Committee said so! [swg]
Car payments [?] Good grief man. Haven’t had them since Mobey *** was a minnow. Monkey puke is a color [?] To each his own – but then again, Farkus is a name [?] [swg]

To Chris Here’s to those who wish him well, and all the rest can go to ….! [tup]
Tom

QUOTE: wrwatkins Posted:17 June 2005, 09:30:52
Good evening Y'all. Oops, I blew it. I guess that the last couple of times I was in Boris was subbing for Tom at the bar and I got a little confused. Sorry, Tom. Not trying to steal your thunder.

Got a gin story to tell. Last night my bride of 43 years and I went to Chili's for dinner. They have Bombay Sapphire gin so we ordered two Bombay Sapphire martinis up with a twist. It turns out that Chili's has a special Bombay Sapphire martini. It is Bombay Sapphire with a little curacel (SP??) which gave it a blue color and it tasted sweet. Now there is a very expensive gin called Magellan that is blue but it is not sweet. The Bombay Sapphire is in a blue glass bottle, however, when poured it is clear. After a small discussion with the bar keep we got the right stuff. The evening did turn out fine afterall. Chili's is the best restaurant in Gun Barrel City (GBC). By Dallas standards it is a middle line restaurant-better than Denny's or McDonalds, but not as good as Mortons,etc. What can you expect for a country home? If anyone in the inn tonight has connections with a upscale restaurant chain tell them to come to GBC. We even do not have a Starbucks! (Need that also).

A small overnight hiatus here. Had to catch my train or it would be a long walk home. Just got back from the doctor after getting my shots so I can go to Libya in a week. Most of my travel is to Europe where shots are not required, however, Africa is a different story.

Let me conclude with a short train story. When I as growing up (still am) in the '50s the C&O still ran wooden caboose(or is it cabeese?) on some of their coal drags in southern West Virginia. We would get cattail reeds and tape nails to them. We would hide in the brush and wait for a train to pass. If it had a wooden caboose we would stand up and with our bows shoot several of our homemade "arrows" into the caboose. When the train came to the next town it looked like it came from Fort Apache. This was great fun until one day we were playing tag football in our front yard when a car pulled up. It was the C&O railway police who confronted us about shooting the cabooses. Naturally we denied it, but got the message and never shot another caboose.

***

Hi *** No offense at my end …. [tup] Boris behind the bar is akin to watching monkeys trying to make love to a football. [swg]

Mine is to keep things on track ‘round here. It’s easy to fall behind with the info exchange, who’s who, what’s up, et al. That’s why the SUMMARIES are provided for one and all.

Fortunately, the exotic drinks ‘round here we do NOT handle. Learned that a long, long time ago from a real bartender experience in a place called Kodiak, Alaska. I think this story has been told on this thread – but it is worth repeating.

As a young sailor – just turned 21 – I was offered a part-time bartending job in a local joint on the main street in Kodiak. In those days (1959) the place was very rustic – almost western in appearance , as in cowboy movie western. The bar had swinging doors and saw dust on the floor. The bar was huge – back room full of tables and those “pretzel back” chairs – great for throwing, hitting someone with, or both. [yeah]

The bar owner and his wife told me that there were only a few things I had to know in order to work there:

(1) When someone ordered a beer – place the bottle on the bar, opened of course.
(2) When someone ordered whiskey – place the bottle on the bar, opened of course, with a glass,
(3) When someone got rowdy, hit ‘em with that bat over there.
(4) At 6 AM, move ‘em out into the street – sweep the sawdust out, and let ‘em back in at 6:30 AM.
(5) Anyone causing problems with the Klooches (not so nice reference to the locals), throw ‘em out.

My kinda place for sure. Probably deep rooted inspiration for this virtual bar of ours. [swg]

By the way, *** it’s MORNING ‘round here! [swg]
Tom
=======================================
Okay, that’s it for me!

Remember, the gals are working tonight – Pizza Night – and Cindy will help behind the bar. [}:)]

Tom (Siberianmo)
Proprietor of “Our” Place

[coalminer3]

Since we are talking abt. subways, herewith a few memories of the old MTA (Pre Charlie, yet!)

Riding the subway was always an adventure. The Boston subway was old when I was growing up. There were not as many stations then (sit and read the stations marked on the glass map in the holder beside the car door; Harvard, Central, Kendall, Charles, Park St., Washington, South Station, Broadway, Andrew Columbia, Fields Corner, Shawmut, and Ashmont - that was it), and the trains only ran as far as Harvard Square, although the streetcars ran out to Arlington, but that’s another story for another time.

The subway station was in the middle of Harvard Square. It was a low gray stone structure with a metal roof and some ornamental iron work. In red letters above the doors was a sign which said “Rapid Transit to All Points - Eight Minutes to Park Street.” People were always in a hurry there and it was hard to get a chance to take in all of the activity. You had a choice of walking down the stairs or riding a narrow wooden escalator to get to the station’s “lobby.” Here was a change booth and turnstiles. The process was quite simple - shove a dollar bill through the slot in the glass window and get some subway token and some change pushed back to you by the bored looking man sitting inside. Then take a token, put it in the slot in the turnstile and push your way through. Little kids rode for a nickel and had to reach up to drop their nickels into a change counter which was pretty similar to the one on the bus. That done, we went down the stairs to the platform and waited for the train.

Harvard Square Station was on two levels. The upper level, which allowed passengers quick access to buses and trackless trolleys without going outside, was for trains coming from Boston. Inbound (to Boston) passnegers boarded their trains on the lower level. There was a single track on each level. The upper level went to the car barn (actually an open area for car storage) which was occupied a space near the Charles River between the Harvard University campus and Memorial Drive.

I always liked going by the yard when driving into Boston. Row on row of subway cars sat parked on the tracks waiting for their next trip. Sometimes, trains ran past the Harvard Square station to the yard to discharge passengers going to a football game at Harvard Stadium which was just across the Charles River. I remember walking by the yard a few times when going to the stadium with my father or uncle to see a football game. There was a cement and brick wall around the yard which had a few gaps in it and I wished I was taller so I could see more of the trains behind the wall. I could hear trains approaching the station from Boston as they pulled in above me and the entire station rumbled and shook with a deep, menacing, growl which was almost deafening because of the confined space in the station.

Just about all of the old Harvard Square station was ripped out in the late 60s and early 70s when the subway was extended from Harvard Square to Alewife, so what I’m about to describe no longer exists. As I mentioned, the subway line was single track with a high level platform to let people board and leave the trains quickly. The track resembled that of a regular railroad, except that a third rail was mounted outside the right rail. The third rail carried the electricity which powered the subway car’s traction motors. Every so often on the third rail was some white lettering which said “DANGER - THIRD RAIL DO NOT TOUCH!” I was concerned most of the time that I might fall off the platform, touch the third rail and be instantly fried, so I never got too close to the edge of the platform. Everyone knew of somebody that had been fried because they weren’t paying attention - never mind that there was no hard evidence of anyone ever being fried, except for a drunk in South Boston or some despondent person who threw themselves onto the tracks ans the train pulled into the station, the thought of being electrocuted frying, swelling up and bursting into a million fragments was enough. The track was not really ballasted but sat in what appeared to be deep layers of grime, oily dirt, dust, candy wrappers and old newspapers; I suppose there were ties underneath that mess somewhere. The walls were dingy white porcelain tile and there were brightly colored advertising signs attached to them at intervals. Most of the signs I remember advertised Wrigley’s gum. Behind me was a brightly lighted newstand which sold Boston papers, candy bars cigarettes and cigars (in those more innocent days), and magazines. The station itself was not well lighted. Rather there were a few bulbs that tried ineffectually to pierce the darkness. I found that I could see pretty well once I got used to it. I tried to get close enough to the edge of the platform so I could see up the track to where the tunnel coming from the car barn curved away, but not close enough so that I might fall off, wind up against the dreaded third rail and be fried - INSTANTLY!!!

After awhile I could hear a train coming. It sounded differently than did the ones on the upper level as the noise was not as deep. I could hear the wheels squealing around the curve from the yard and hear the hollow whistling sound of the brakes being applied as the motorman brought it closer to the station. Then, there it was - four red lights marking the corners of the lead car, the blue-uniformed motorman sitting in the cab with one hand on the controller. The train of dirty, green painted, steel cars clomped into the station and screeched to a stop. The wooden doors banged open and the passengers began boarding the train.

These cars were not luxurious, they were utilitarian in the best sense of the word since they had been built to last through years and years of hard service. The windows would be open if the weather was warm and I could smell the pungent sweet scent of oil and warm traction motors. A compressor cut in under one of the cars with an urgent “lunga, lunga, lunga” sound, and then cut off with a harsh snap of air under pressure. It would be time to leave pretty soon and I made sure to try and get a seat near an open window so I could see everything. One feature of these cars I remember was a map of the MTA system in a glass panel by the door. I wonder now and then how much one of those would bring if offered at a memorabilia auction. Enough of that, though, it was time to go. The doors banged shut, “snuuffaaa,” went the air brakes, the traction motors groaned into action and the train began moving forward slowly at first, then much faster. I don’t think we were really went all that fast, but the fact that the windows were open and we were in a tunnel gave the illusion of really moving rapidly. Central was the next stop, just a short distance from Harvard Square. The section of the line from Central to Kendall was about the longest stretch between stops and the train really moved along here. The noise was thrilling, palpable, and altogether wonderful. You truly could not as my mother always said, “hear yourself think.” The racket was redoubled whenever we met a train. The other train roared past us in a blur of lights. This was what it was all about - going some place fast.

Years later I read a passage in a novel by Thomas Wolfe in which the hero, tormented by a desire to be everywhere, see everything, and absorb all of life’s experience in the process, would ride the subway from Cambridge to Boston and see if he could hold his breath between stops - I did this when I was five years old and enthralled by Little Golden Books rather than the Sage of Asheville. The run from Central to Kendall was a long one, whether I held my breath or not.

I mentioned that I tried to sit by the window. Deciding which side to sit on was a tough decision. Inbound the left side was the track side which would allow me a closeup view of the trains we met. The right hand side of the train would give me a good view of the Boston skyline when the train exited the tunnel and climbed over the bridge from Cambridge to Boston. Most of the time I chose the left side because from there I could see a lot of industrial buildings and in the distance the smokestack of the Boston and Maine’s roundhouse at Mystic. Peering ahead I could see it was getting lighter as we got closer to the tunnel portal. A rush and a clank and we were out of the tunnel for a little while and back into the daylight.

Up we went across the bridge to the Charles Street station. A brief stop there and then back into the tunnel underneath the storied streets of Beacon Hill. The train swung around a right hand curve before plunging back into the darkness. On the left was the frowning hulk of the infamous Charles Street jail; an ancient facility even when I was young. A roast beef sandwich stand was on the street right beside the prison walls. Legend had it that their sandwiches were so bad that the inmates would throw them back over the wall when kind hearted folks tossed a bag of them into the prison yard. A quick glance out the window allowed me to sort of see into the jail before the train plunged back into the tunnel. Park Street Under was the next station and we often got off there to transfer to another train, but sometimes we rode to Washington Street which is where the big department stores were. Still other times, we rode to South Station when we were going to ride the New Haven Railroad; always a great adventure. Beyond South Station lay unknown territory. I explored that later when I was older and started riding the subway by myself.

Park Street was about the biggest station on the MTA system. It had two levels. The subway was on the lower level and streetcars ran on the upper level. Historically, the oldest section of the entire MTA system was the one that ran into the upper level at Park Street. Some of the old Type 5 cars were still around when I was small, but mostly I remember riding on PCC’s. The PCCs were painted traction orange with a stripe separating the orange-colored lower half of the car from the cream-colored upper part of the car. The PCC’s ran from overhead wire so there was no danger of getting fried on the third rail. The PCC cars also did not run from a high level platform as did the subway cars. Park Street was a little better lighted than some of the other subway stops. The PCCs ran underground and on the surface and would take you virtually anywhere you wanted to go in the city.

Have a good weekend.

work safe

[siberianmo]

Good show, coalminer 3 [tup] While I'm no expert regarding the Boston subway system, I was stationed there from 1968-1973 and am familiar with it.

Poor Charlie indeed! Where would the old MTA be today without the Kingston Trio [?] [swg] [yeah]

I lived in Melrose, just a bit north of downtown and commuted in on the B&M's RDC's - [wow] loved that for sure. Then moved to Dedham/Hyde Park area and took the MTA in from the Hyde Park station. When I wasn't on ships, I worked at Government Center (JFK Building) right next to City Hall.

By the way - nothing ordered today [?] - Whazzup [?] Regulars 'round here at least order a cuppa ......

Enjoy the weekend! [tup] [swg]
Tom

[CFournier]

Hello folks.
My possible date of sortie from the hospital is now pushed to next tuesday...Kind of a set back to me...[:(] doctors says take no chance with that condition...I'm going to tell you guys a secret: I'm bored to death and my morale couldn't be lower...[%-)]
Anyone here knows something about secondary trains runned around SF Bay area, on WP or SP? anything of interest to model? Like heavyweights pulled by steam like a Consolidation?
Chris, ( don't fool around with the puck!)

[siberianmo]

Chris Ain't no way the Docs are keeping you in for reasons other than to be sure all's well with and for you prior to release. You already know that. Yes, it disappoints, but so would a relapse. Err on the side of caution, my friend - you know that too.

So, what to do, what to do [?] Send Boris over to liven up the joint [?] [:-,] Send the gals over to ........, well on second thought [yeah] [:-,] [}:)]

A few decades ago I was hospitalized in the ICU with an unknown malady - knocked me out cold. Kept me in there for 4 days and nights. Didn't know whether there'd be a tomorrow .... long story, happy ending for me. However, the total of 8 days of hospitalization didn't do very much for the morale of my family or yours truly. Had to spend lots of time forcing myself to think of better times and places. Hard to do - but it CAN be done. Try it! [swg] , you CAN do it. [:D]

Be thinking of you and hope you stay connected with us .... [tup]

Tom

[trolleyboy]

Good afternoon everyone.Chris Thumbs up, hospitals are no fun but hey like Ted said were all here in the corner with you.Maybe request that the hospital allows you to have Bowser and Blue entertain you. I don't think that they'll bore you, at least your in the right city i think that they are still based out of Montreal.BTW I've got your seats booked at the museum for the meet next year. I'd hate to sudstitute Boris for you, I'd be affraid that he would try to climb the overhead and then we would be months getting that burnt hair smell out of the museum.A last thought happy father's day weekend(yes you should have a whole weekend) to all those who find themselves in that situation.May only the trains you desire come up unto you ( the church of the holy streetcars signature prayer) A long story I may tell it later. Coalminer[b] I always forget that ther was(is) a subway in Boston. Perhaps all the gunk ontop of the rails is the ballast,an awfull thought but it seems that that type of maintenance seems to be the last done on subway systems. I actually miss the red dreadnaughts of the TTC subways.Those old 50 ton a piece all steel Gloster cars were the cats meow.They rode well but couldn't be used with the newer alluminum equipment due to the wieght difference.Ours is the last surviving set all be it changed to run off of overhead instead of third rail.[b]PassengerAl [tup] on your book project, I'm looking forward to reading it, sign me up for a copy( I'm sure most of the guys here will gladley take one as well) Well I'm shuffling off for now. I'll talk to you all later. Rob

[West Coast S]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CFournier

Hello folks.
My possible date of sortie from the hospital is now pushed to next tuesday...Kind of a set back to me...[:(] doctors says take no chance with that condition...I'm going to tell you guys a secret: I'm bored to death and my morale couldn't be lower...[%-)]
Anyone here knows something about secondary trains runned around SF Bay area, on WP or SP? anything of interest to model? Like heavyweights pulled by steam like a Consolidation?
Chris, ( don't fool around with the puck!)

Good to hear your'e coming along Chris...Afternoon Tom and the gang. So you want to know about the more unusual? With SP, the Del Monte and the Sun Tan were two heavyweight equipped runs out of 3rd & Townsand during the golden age of American railroading .

Never heard of the Sun Tan? Few have, It was operated during the twenties and thirities during the summer, using mostly commuter equiptment with a Pullman Lounge to provide service to the Boardwalk at Santa Cruz. Power was typically provided by 4-6-0s

The Del Monte was the longest lived train on the SP when discontinued in 1968. Considered a first class means to Monterey, during the steam era it offered Pullman service, 4-6-2s were typical power.

A unnamed local also called SF home, not part of the regular commute fleet, that interchanged with the North Western Pacific at Redwood City. Train makeup and power could be anything SP had available in the yard, on the other hand, occasionaly NWP steam would take this train into San Jose if SP couldn't supply a locomotive whereupon arrival at San Jose it would be combined with a commute run to SF.

Mail Trains 71&72 which, during the steam era carried lounges as well as coaches between San Francisico and Los Angeles via the coast route and was by far the slowest passenger train on the system, requiring 18 hrs running time . Power, typically anything in the roundhouse when a 4300 or Northern were unavilable.

Well Chris, there's my top picks for the unusual All featured heavyweight equiptment and. Steam power of numerous types.

Alas, WP operated no locals or unusual passenger trains on their side on the bay. [:(]
.
I became so involved replying to Chris's query that I didn't notice that my mug is as dry as my wallet after the national S convention.[:0] Whata ya have on tap today? Ok ,Tom we have some unfinished business between us. For the official record I'm 46 years young[:D].

Dave

[siberianmo]

We have anything you'd like on draught or in frosty cold bottles ... so just ask! [tup] and Cindy or I will round it up for you! [^]

I'm having a not-so-great experience trying to get started with S-gauge. Between one of the leading manufacturers and an online S-gauge source, I'm beginning to think that my next step is to beg these people to take my money. Never had this experience before. I think I'll drink that draught ........ perhaps two! [V]

Thanx for the added Birthday data. Makes the revision complete .....

Enjoy Pizza night, steaks 'n fries and of course, the gals of "Our" Place. [tup] [;)]

Tom

[nickinwestwales]

Hi Tom,set `em up mate,I`m just typing something up

[Anonymous]

Hello, everyone. I'll take something very cold, please. Chris, hang in there. As someone who has spent more than my fair share of time in hospitals, just think pleasant thoughts and plan things to do upon your release. Keep your mind active and busy.
I kind of doubt if I can make Toronto but I hope at least someone takes some pix. Always wanted to see Canada. Tom, when I was in high school my votech diesel instructor was retired Coast Guard man . We called him Chief. Onry old cuss.
Another cold one, please. That will be the last one. I could easily revert to my old self where it took a case of beer to get me started. Like the old country song (Waylon?) says, hangovers hurt more than they used to.
Did I tell you all that the historical demonstration railroad we're involved with received 2 new to us coaches last fall? They were built 1936-7 by National Steel Car and finished in the Angus shops for the the trains pulled by the Jubilee 4-4-4 engines. We got the cars painted for Ontario Northland but we will paint them Pullman green eventually. They are in great shape, ride well, but those 4 wheel trucks sure are funny looking!

[West Coast S]

Tom...Classic trains, great libations with epicurean delights, the spirit of friendship and yes, even Boris, does life get better then this?

If you're seeking someone to take your money perhaps you should take one of the "Our Place " gals as a wife! That's a sure fire cure.[(-D]

[nickinwestwales]

Right,were am I,ah yes-CHRIS-Agree with Tom,hospital unlikely to discharge even slightly ill lawyer.................If you fancy a browse to lift the spirits,can do no better than recommend www.onrgallery.com, assuming I`m not preaching to the converted here. Feel for you not being able to explain things to your lad...my daughter is 4 and unsettled by any unexpected change in her routine. Still,One day,you`ll be able to laugh about all this-one day.......Get well soon mate,all the best !!! TOM-I sense `S` scale tensions-come sit awhile and share a brew whilst I play H.O. devils advocate[:-,] . You make occaisional mention of lack of expansion space on the Can-Am,how about ( and I`m just kite flying here ) throwing a balloon loop around the end of the union stn. board to turn trains at that end and throwing off an opposing junction somewhere on the main line across a lift-out section to the nearest wall-track in both directions (pass one side ,freight the other ) with a turning Wye- How about a port theme (-make the lift out a bridge )-you could have waterlines of some old friends tied up at the quay. Also,whilst I know you`re not much of a freighter,the opportunity of a pair of `golden beaver` S.D.40-2`s with 2 or 3 5-car double-stack well car sets shouldn`t be overlooked......[^].....with provision of duplicate control cab at harbour stn guest operators can be accomodated on user-friendly section.........just a few odd thoughts to distract you [SWG] Well,same again please,finally finished the re-wiring exercise provoked by the new control unit and had an `experimental` running session-delirious with pleasure at results,cant believe how I struggled on for so long with the old stuff, I know I`m the last person in the world to discover it but this brake/inertia function is really fun,in fact I`m going back to play some more....!!!!....night all,catch up tomorrow,nick [C=:-)]