"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[jlampke]

Evenin' Tom, the usual for me and a round for those present, please.

Dave; VERY interesting, and thanks for answering my question. [tup] I'd like to get out there
with a tour guide who knows the history of the line for a tour. [tup] Kind of like the URL
I posted a few days ago.

John

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang...Digressing back a few days, I have some SP in Utah info to adress the open question...First a round of JB if you could be so kind.

The most noteable abandoment in Utah was the orginal route around the north end of the Great Salt Lake, the location where the last spike was driven in 1869. Under the Harriman regime in 1904, a series of wooden trestles, totaling 42 miles in length was built across the lake.

Central Pacifc/Southern Pacific downgraded the Promotory line to branch status upon directing traffic over the new line, except for emergency detours and Western Union wire trains it saw very little traffic. In 1942 Western Union had relocated its wires and there was no longer a need to keep the line. Scrapper Hyman Michaels was awarded the contract to remove the rails for use by the US Navy at the Hawthorne, NV. Weapons Depot, local ranchers were encouraged to salvage all timber structures, at their expense, for their own use, many timber bridges were soon reduced to firewood and fencing.

Change is everything, so it came to pass that the 1904 trestles became too expensive and structually unsound to warrant expensive repairs, thus Morrison Knudson was awarded a contract to replace it with a soild fill, the new line was opened for revenue service in October 1959, until the eighties the wooden trestle, stripped of all rails and decking was allowed to succumbed to the elements, after the great flood of of 1983, which severly dammange the 1959 causeway and sent bridge timbers from the abandoned span crashing into moving trains, SP had private contracters remove the remaining structure for whatever salvage value was to be had.

While it existed,it was necessary to maintain a train order station until the advent of CTC at a spot called Midlake, built on pilings it had a population of 24 persons at one time and also contained a passing siding and housing for section crews and bridge inspectors.




Dave

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

An observation: Generally when "editing" a Post several hours after the fact can have a couple of unintended consequences: (1) When logging into thread, one is 'taken' back rather than forward (2) A chance to miss the Posts that have been made later than the one "edited." Best to simply Post a new thought ....

Okay, Gents: The Birthday Bash for CM3 is officially over! As he requested, the festivities were to take place during the morning and (early) afternoon. So, Boris ring that bell - we have several rounds on the house to dispense![yeah]

Ted Some "good stuff" in your afternoon contributions! [tup] And you are CORRECT, Sir, May 17th was the date my bride 'spilled the beans,' but the first Ba***ook place on May 18th - my 67th Natal Day! That set the stage for the development of our Birthday Watch List! and the many celebrations to follow! [swg]

Now, WHO was the first Customer to have a BASH! after mine[?][?]

Ted My tankard is hoisted in honor of perhaps one of our earliest and most appreciated customers - CM3!!!. How very fortunate we are to have him as one of our own! Consider these fonts of RR knowledge: passengerfan Al - West Coast S Dave - trolleyboy Rob and coalminer3 CM3 and you just KNOW this is a thread set apart! The "archives" speak for themselves. [tup][tup][tup]

Sorry to have to break the news, BUT - The Second National Bank of Mentor Village owns three of the private boxes at the Mentor Village Emporium Theatre. Given that Vito the Hit is also Bank President, CEO and HMWIC (head man what's in charge), it will be virtually out of the question to prevent him from attending our Grand Re-opening. HOWEVER, you are CORRECT SIR, he was NOT invited. [8]

BK Always good to have you pop in on us and your efforts here and on my "other thread" are greatly appreciated! [tup][tup] From the gist of what you have told us, retirement is imminent. That cannot be all bad! Finding someone special to spend your future with and in a place you enjoy being in means EVERYTHING! Believe me, I know it - I'm living that experience! [tup]

Thanx for the continuing kind words and I'm especially pleased that you and your "significant other" (name[?][?]) enjoyed The Mentor Village Gazette!


Enjoy the evening, Gents!

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Aha, does May 17th, 2005 "ring a bell?" NOT YOU BORIS! It should for you Tom as I think your lovely Spouse "spilled the beans" to Nick who, in turn, made impromptu arrangements for a Ba***hat left all of us reeling for a fortnight. Okay, have a good'n' folks, I'll be taking a Hack from here this boozy evening. Happy rails.

[Anonymous]

I am assuming things will pick-up as the day wears on.[tup] I wanted to rcognize trolleyboy Rob's fine posting on the various Canadian traction and passenger car manufactureres. I had no idea there were so many and while the transition from "horse cars" to "street cars" was common place, some other transitions seem downright bazaar. Nice Al, glad you could return for an obligatory salutation and a cursory nod of approval on the day's festivities. Tom, Its time for another toast to our honored guest and our "man of the hour," CM3. In a labrynth of "dry," nearly sterile Threads; imature volatile postings; "sappy" cliqui***opics; isn't it nice to have a comfortable, steady minded place to "hang our hats?" Here is to one of the "mainstays" who's contributions make "Our" Place the refuge it has become. Hear, hear. Great Auntie Ellen's unmentionables! It can't get any better than now. Canadian traction, the B. & O., the Santa Fe Kcity Cheifs, GN, New Haven "race track" R.D.C's followed now by the luxury of Pullman varnish.[^]

BK, good of you to remember this occasion and hopefully, our members will profit by your example.[:-^] Alberta seems a wise choice for unencumbered retirement without the many distractions that too often displace the serenity we have earned. I'm guessing the Summers there are second to none. I see the Coal Scuttle has been enriched with Canadian currency and coin and it is appreciated.[tup]

I've been watching an A & E Channel docu. entitled "Murder on the Rails" which focuses on the darkest side of our mutual regard for R.R.ing. The "occult" bands of R.R. Hobos have been infiltrated by the most vile sort of refuse society has to offer. There is now "no hono(u)r among thieves" and the "Jungles" have become rife with homicidal gang members with the ignoble true wayfarer as their prey.[V] I seem to remember a 1940s movie that featured Joel McCrea caste as a Journalist turned drifter to see if the "free spirit" could be an idealic life style. If memory serves, it was a pretty good comedy. That brings to mind the opening of MV's "pride and joy," the Emporium Theatre gala opening on Monday Jan. 9th. Leopold Stokowsy's (Leonard Stoakes) grand Nephew will be at the Wurlitzer Theatre Organ of 32 pipes, 4 keyboads, 30 stops and 24 pedals. Make your reservations now at the M.V. Volunteer Fire House and Chinese Laundry to "see and be seen." The creme de la creme of the Village will be in attendence, so let's stow the golashes, work gloves and coveralls for one night and act like we got lotsa class, okay? NO, Vito "the hit" has not been invited.[tdn] Okay Boris, I think I'll hit the Champagne fountain and buy a round for all present soBRONG-G-G...Nick...for cryin' out loud.[:(!]

[BudKarr]

Hello Captain Tom and party animals!

I happened to be on line again this afternoon, conducting some "company business," when I decided to skip on over here to see what was going on.

Good exchanges, for the most part - and of course yet another intruder from that world out there of the ignorantly blissful. No apologies from me to anyone who gets offended by that, for I have zero tolerance for jerks, no matter how they are wrapped.

You are a good sport, Mr. Coalminer3 - but what IS your name? <grin>

Captain Tom, that newspaper of yours is a priceless piece of sheer enjoyment! We have had several laughs over it, and the previous two editions, since our return. Where in the world do you come up with so much diverse and entertaining thoughts? I have two tickets for the Monday evening Gala at the "Emporium," and was wondering whether there is even a glimmer of a chance to get up into the balcony? <grin>

I could not let this day pass without letting you know how very much this place means to me and my "break" from reality! Combined with these many weeks here in beautiful Alberta with an equally beautiful and charming lady, laughing, loving and living has really taken over a part of my life yearning for just those commodities. "Our" Place has helped, immensely. Thank you all.

Looks like I will be flying to Europe next week to begin a round of final trips in this, my 2nd attempt at permanent retirement. Right now, my departure from Alberta is slated for Wednesday, so there will be time to communicate a bit more before then.

So, to the cast of characters, staff and regulars, enjoy this fine day and the weekend to come. I will do my best to impart a word or two before taking my leave.

A round on me for the house if you please!

BK

[siberianmo]

Note to anyone Posting as texxn22 did:

I'd be surprised if you get an answer. Why[?] Because we don't communicate that way on this thread. We are inclusive here - we don't Post without first finding out what has been said and by whom, along with what may be going on. One-way Posts are simply not acknowledged.

You and any other adult wishing to join in are most welcome - however, from your Profile, there isn't much to go on.

Check out the way we do things (start at page one!) and you'll figure it out. Best to simply send him an Email

Tom [4:-)] [oX)] Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

G'day!

Well, once again it pays to stick around AFTER making a Post, for I've "picked up" a couple along the way! That "reload/refresh" feature just doesn't fail! [tup][tup]

CM3 Appreciate your 2nd Post of the day and once again another round - more money for the Bash! and Coal Scuttle - what a guy! [tup]

John Was hoping you'd stop in and understand the need for "duty first." [yeah] Been there, done that! [swg] Thanx for the round as well! [tup]

CM3 Hadn't heard about Lou Rawls - great entertainer, always enjoyed watching and listening to him, especially in his earlier TV years.

John As with you, I thought fer sure today would be the day CM3 would "reveal" himself. <huh[?]> Didn't happen - yet.

Okay, Gents, just wanted you to know that you been "duly acknowledged!" Done this day, by my hand ....... [swg]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Barndad - Is that the Illinois Railroad Museum???

[siberianmo]

G'day Gents!

As you can see, I'm still here ... plans changed, as this coming Tuesday will be my day of absence from behind the bar. Given that Cindy is now back at her university job, I'll have to find someone to watch the store. We're going to miss that gal 'round here. [tup]

Hope your day is going well, CM3 and that perhaps this will be your day for unveiling your true identity! [yeah] As you can see, a couple of guys have wondered 'aloud' about it! [swg]

Received your Email BK and my response is one the way. Any time you find yourself within reasonable distance from where I am, you are most welcome. [tup] Glad to learn that your extended time away has turned out so well. Then again, how could you miss[?] A great gal by your side, the Province at your disposal, nary a care in the world worth fretting over - I'd say you've had the world by the proverbial "short hairs!" [swg]

Here's a thought to ponder: My first new car purchase was a 1957 Studebaker Silver Hawk. Today, we arranged to have new floor coverings for 3 rooms at a cost of over double of what that Hawk cost me! Amazin' eh[?] No doubt there won't be anywhere near the fun with the carpet and tile in comparison with that great car! [swg]

Ted Appreciate your taking over as Party Coordinator for Nick. From what I am observing, the Characters from "Our" Place are well "into" the festivities, amongst other things! <grin> Why even Awk is decked out with a party hat! I like that festive look to Tex the Armadillo's armor plate! Nice touch with the flowers and smiley faces. [swg]

I hear music from the back room and it appears that "someone" has shown up, there's banjo, guitar, fiddle and piano just goin' at it big time. Listen closely and I think a bit of Jew's Harp as well. [yeah]

All kidding aside, WVA is a pretty place to visit, just love the topography. I've driven it east-west, west-east, north-south & south-north many a time in all seasons. One MUST pay attention to those hairpin curves, especially at night (back in the days BEFORE Interstates!). Met a gal from Huntington, a long, long time ago ........ story for 'nother time and place, maybe at the Rendezvous! [swg]

CM3 Enjoyed your Post! Informative, humorous and good natured! We'll "save" the round for the house until AFTER the Birthday Bash! The quarters however, have been deposited into Herr Wurltizer's Coal Scuttle! Many thanx! [tup][tup]

So, let's see - we've had a smattering of representation throughout the day. Adding in the "snippets" included in an earlier Post, I'd say CM3 has had quite a bunch of well wishers! [tup][tup][tup]

Al Thanx for the round! [tup] Can always count on having that bell rung when you stop by ... but as with my comments above, we'll "save" it for after the Bash!

A bit of "Our" Place Trivia - Who had the first Birthday Bash at "Our" Place[?][?]

Later!


Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[jlampke]

Afternoon Tom and everyone present. First off, again, Happy 59th Birthday to CM3!! (What the heck IS your name??) Make mine a double Absolute & grapefruit, and a round for the boyz.
[bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday] [bday]
I stopped in at 0745 PST (or so) this morning, then had to leave the desk and wasn't able to return until just now (1245 PST). We're bringing the plant up and will be shifting to ship's power later today.

I'll try to get back in a little while to partake in the festivities.

John

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon Barkeep and All; coffee, please, round for the house and here's some $ for drink and food for later this evening, and some $ for the jukebox. Sad to hear abt Lou Rawls' passing - what a set of pipes he had.

I appreciate the festive garb on the bar staff - strategically placed hard hats and kneepads are always in the best of taste. I won't ask where/how they wear the battery pack and the SCSR.

Some more 'puter definitions from this part of the world.
Hard drive - Getting any place around here
Hardware - New overalls
Winders - A Microsoft-based operating system.

For chef nick - Tomatoes around here are called "'maters." BTW roof bolts or used drill steels make great 'mater stakes.

Again - thanks for all of the toasts, etc. I surely do appreciate all of you as IMHO, this is quite simply the best forum out there - and boy, is is "out there" sometimes.

work safe

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #55

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the The Pullman Company from a 1946 advertisement in my personal collection.

1 Pick the place you want to go and write for reservations. When you get word there’s room for you, see your railroad ticket agent and . . .

2 Reserve Pullman space for a trouble-free trip that will get you there safely – in more comfort than you’ll get going any other way!

. . . . . How to start on your vacation . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . WITHOUT A WORRY IN THE WORLD . . . . . . . . . .

3 No worry about weather, roads or mountains in an all-steel Pullman car. Pullman’s been the safest way of going places fast for more than 80 years!

4 No worry about privacy or sleep. Your air-conditioned Pullman space is all your own, with big, comfortable beds it’s a joy to stretch out in!

. . . . . . . . . . WHEN YOU GO ON YOUR VACATION . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . GO PULLMAN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
THE SAFEST, MOST COMFORTABLE WAY OF GOING PLACES FAST! . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang and a special belated happy birthday wi***o CM3 on his 59th. Time for a CR and a round for the house and the birthday boy should receive a double.

Just stopped by the house for lunch and remembered to check postings.

By the way 59 is old if you are of the female persuasion If male its only the beginning of second childhood.

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Belated [bday] coalminer3 CM3!! 59 IS old!


Now, let’s continue having some fun at CM3’s expense! [yeah][wow]<why not[?]>

PART II of II



One day, two rednecks named Bubba and Earl were driving down the road, drinking a couple of Buds. The passenger, Bubba, said "Lookey thar up ahead Earl, it's a po-leece roadblock! We're gonna get busted fer drinkin' these here beers!" "Don't worry Bubba," Earl said. "We'll just pull over and finish drinkin' these beers, peel off the label and stick it on our foreheads, then throw the bottles under the seat." "What fer?" asked Bubba. "Just let me do the talkin', okay?" said Earl. They finished their beers, threw the empty bottles under the seat and slapped the labels on their foreheads. When they reached the roadblock, the sheriff said, "Have you boys been drinking?" "No sir," said Earl, "we're on the patch."


Q. What is the West Virginia state flower?
A. The satellite dish!

Q. Why do birds fly upside down through West Virginia?
A. There's nothing worth pooping on!


You know a computer is owned by a West Virginian if...

The mouse is referred to as a "critter."

The keyboard is camouflaged.

There is a Skoal can in the CD-ROM drive.

There is a gun rack mounted on the CPU.

The password is, "bubba."

The numeric keypad only goes up to six.

Outgoing faxes have beer stains on them.

The printer goes really slow since Bubba don't read too fast.

The extra RAM slots have Dodge truck parts installed in them.

The menus all have Budweiser, Black Label, and Old Milwaukee options.

Jeff Foxworthy *.wavs.

The monitor is up on blocks.

Seven blue tick hounds under the desk.

Deer jerky is in the desk drawer.

The screen saver consists of pictures of Ned Beatty with dueling banjos playing in the background.

The six front keys have rotted out.

John Deer Pocket Protectors.


Dumb West Virginia Laws

• No children may attend school with their breath smelling of "wild onions."

• When a railroad passes within 1 mile of a community of 100 or more people in it, they must build a station and stop there regularly to pick up and drop off passengers.

• It is illegal to snooze on a train.

• Doctors and dentists may not place a woman under anesthesia unless a third person is present.

• According to the state constitution, it is unlawful for anyone to own a red or a black flag.

• If you wear a hat inside a theater, you may be fined.

• Roadkill may be taken home for supper.

• Whistling underwater is prohibited.



West Virginia Computer Terms

BACKUP - What you do when you run across a skunk in the woods

BAR CODE - Them's the fight'n rules down at the local tavern

BUG - The reason you give for calling in sick

BYTE - What your pit bull dun to cusin Jethro

CACHE - Needed when you run out of food stamps

CHIP - Pasture muffins that you try not to step in

TERMINAL - Time to call the undertaker

CRASH - When you go to Junior's party uninvited

DIGITAL - The art of counting on your fingers

DISKETTE - Female Disco dancer

FAX - What you lie about to the IRS

HACKER - Uncle Leroy after 32 years of smoking

HARDCOPY - Picture looked at when selecting tattoos

INTERNET - Where cafeteria workers put their hair

KEYBOARD - Where you hang the keys to the John Deere

MAC - Big Bubba's favorite fast food

MEGAHERTZ - How your head feels after 17 beers

MODEM - What ya did when the grass and weeds got too tall

MOUSE PAD - Where Mickey and Minnie live

NETWORK - Scoop'n up a big fish before it breaks the line

ONLINE - Where to stay when taking the sobriety test

ROM - Where the pope lives

SCREEN - Helps keep the skeeters off the porch

SERIAL PORT - A red wine you drink with breakfast

SUPERCONDUCTOR - Amtrak's Employee of the year

SCSI - What you call your week-old underwear


West Virginia Jokes

Did you hear about the New 3 Million Dollar West Virginia State Lottery?
You get 3 dollars a year for a million years.

Why do folks from West Virginia go to the movie theater in groups of 18 or more?
17 and under not admitted.

Why did OJ Simpson want to move to West Virginia? Everyone has the
Same DNA.

Did you hear that the governor's mansion in West Virginia burned down?
Almost took out the whole trailer park.


Two West Virginians are walking down different ends of a street toward each other and one is carrying a sack. When they meet, one says, "Hey, Tommy Ray, what'cha got in th' bag?"

"Jus' some chickens."

"If I guess how many there are, can I have one?"

"I'll give you both of them."

"OK. Ummmmm......, five?"


A West Virginian came home and found his house on fire, rushed next door, telephoned the fire department and shouted, "Hurry over here.

My house is on fire!"

"OK," replied the fireman, "how do we get there?"

"Say, don't you still have those big red trucks?"


The West Virginian and his gal were embracing passionately in the front seat of the car.

"Want to go in the back seat?" she asked.

"No," he replied.

A few minutes later she asked, "Now do you want to get in the back seat?"

"No," he said again, "I wanna stay here in the front seat with you."


A West Virginian hitchhiker was picked up by a guy in a big Lincoln Continental. The West Virginian noticed a bunch of golf tees on the front seat and asked, "What are those things for?" The driver said, "They're to hold my balls while I drive." "Boy," exclaimed the West Virginian, "these Lincoln Continentals have everything, don't they?"


Happy Belated Birthday! [bday] CM3!!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Happy- -Happy- -Happy UN [bday] to CM3 on this alleged 59th annual celebration toasting an alias of New England derivation, residing in West "B.G." Virginia and d****d proud of it!, GASP![:D] Tom let us raise our flagons in tribute to our esteemed Colleague who never fails to bring subtle, cultivated mental imagery to "the mind's eye" that is spellbinding for all of us.[tup] Frankly, I don't know of any Eastern State that offers more "raw" natural beauty than W.V. if it weren't for all those abandoned refrigerators, bed springs, pick up trucks, wa***ubs, and gray linens hanging on clothes lines.[#oops] CM3, I trust you approve of the entertainment provided. I had hoped to engage a trio of banjo, singing saw and jew's-harp but we weren't able to find any local talent with sufficient dentition to play the "harp."[:(] The Gals are tastefully sporting their miner's lamp Hard Hats with Bunny Ears and no, those "cotten tails" are not souveniers. Rob (bar Chandler) has provided us with Heidi and Helga, Insp. Clueless, Leon and P.I. Doyle for "Security," so to one and all: "Let the Good Times Roll."[^]

This has been an especially fine day for me with the B. & O. and A.T.SF. Kansas City Cheifs features.[^] Barndad Doug, if I dare a guess as to T.A. Edison's genuine demeanor, it would fall short of his many Biographer's accolades. He fit into that "niche" of self made, ingenious Industrialists with the likes of Henry Ford and so many others during that epoch of U.S. history. His ambition and "work ethic" can never be diminished. Ethics and propriety in business, however, is an entirely different matter. I'm still sticking with: "hindsight is always 20-20"[swg] Nick [C=:-)] Old Chap, I knew you would arise to the occasion with an entrance befitting that of General Wellington's return home from Waterloo.[tup] Glad to see you've made a full recovery from the madness and stress of the holidays.[tup] Oh yes, thanks for supplementing the Party menu with entrees other than the traditional but provencial "fresh Road Kill and Ramps."[:O]

Boris, I hope you have cleared those "bib" overalls, straw hat and red kerchief with Nick and Tom. If not, it's back to the Paw Paw Partch with you.[alien] Once more, [bday] CM3 and many happy returns.

[BudKarr]

Good Morning Captain Tom and a Belated Happy Natal Day to coalminer3 CM3!

I see there has been a bit of activity regarding our friend from West Virginia these past several days. Unfortunately, some has been rather profound in the grief stricken sense. My positive thoughts (as Capt Tom puts it) go to those who are suffering.

It appears that you have had quite an outpouring of greetings for your birthday, Mr. Coalminer3 (what IS your name?) Anyway, enjoy – the next one puts you into a whole ‘nother category. <grin>

We had a most wonderful time at the resort and should any of you ever have the opportunity to visit Lake Louise, you will immediately understand what I am alluding to. A majestic view – wonderful accommodations and truly a place for a once-in-a-lifetime get away.

I will withhold my “report” for a later Post as we are still putting things away and getting organized, so to speak, for this – my last weekend in the mountains. Alas, I shall be returning to the “grind,” but this will be my finale. Plans have been solidified and once I cut the “ties” to my profession – it will be a return to Alberta, this time for keeps.

Best regards to all for the New Year and I hope to resume contact with you before I embark upon my latest global adventures.

Ah yes, a round for the house, if you please, Capt Tom and of course I’ll stick around just to hear the sound of the bell. Oh, you may have ALL of my Canadian coins – there is a jar full from our trips, so add them to the Juke Jar now called the Coal Scuttle (apt name, indeed!).

BK

P.S. Do my eyes deceive, or has one of the regulars provided a post without mere mention of this celebratory day?

[siberianmo]

G’day!!

CM3 Here are some [bday] Greetings for you from days past … check the dates & times! Seems like you have had quite a rousing entry into age 59!!!

QUOTE: siberianmo Tom
Posted: 29 Dec 2005, 09:49:00




HAPPY 59th BIRTHDAY to coalminer3 CM3!

Birthday Bash scheduled for the morning and afternoon of January 6th (Friday)!

QUOTE: wanswheel Mike
Posted: 29 Dec 2005, 20:35:31

Happy Birthday CM3 and you might as well go for broke on the Coal $huttle now that you're down to your last fifty.

QUOTE: pwolfe Pete
Posted: 29 Dec 2005, 20:56:31

[bday]CM3 as I will not be around for the Our Place bash. Hope you had a good day[yeah]

QUOTE: trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 29 Dec 2005, 22:28:43


CM3 [bday]Greetings allow me to catch a jug of your favourite on your return in the new year.

QUOTE: jlampke John
Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 00:04:43

… it's now 2200 PST. I just wanted to wish CM3 a Happy Birthday while it was still the 29th. [bday]

QUOTE: Theodorebear Ted
Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 13:02:29

CM3, I would like to join the others in wishing you Happy Birthday ("real McCoy") and we hope you enjoy the day's entertainment on the 6th.

QUOTE: Trainnut484 Russell
Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 13:09:54

A belated [bday] to CM3.

QUOTE: wanswheel Mike Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 17:05:22


CM3,everybody is entitled to at least 2 birthdays per year, so have another good one.

QUOTE: trolleyboy Rob
Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 22:37:36

CM3 I'm going to wish you the very happy right now as I'm working 9 to whenever tomorrow ( last big hurrah inventory time at the store ) gives a new meaning to Excedrine headache # 10 [:(!][xx(]

Belated [bday] Belated [bday] [tup][tup][tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning Barkeep and all assembled; coffee, please; round for the house; and $ for the jukebox. We'll play Jean Ritchie's "West Virginia Mine Disaster" this a.m. - seems to be appropriate.

I enjoyed all of the WV material. The law abt. the roadkill is for real. I'll close this post with a true roadkill story a bit later.

The name for "wild onions" is "ramps." These are a truly beastly item that is found throughout the area. Think of an onion on steroids and you'll get the idea. It's a sign of spring when folks go out and dig 'em up and cook them. Local fire departments, ambulance services, etc. have ramp dinners as fund raisers; believe me, you need both the fire laddies and the EMTs after eating them.

Some of you may have heard of Jim Comstock, late publisher of the West Virginia Hillbilly - a splendid example of rapidly vanishing local journalism. Each spring, the story goes, he would add ramp juice to the ink when printing the paper. The paper had a surprisingly wide circulation and was bagged up and shipped via the B&O. The story from one of my old B&O buddies is that they would have to fumigate the mail car after the ramp-impregnated Hillbilly was carried.

Here's something from the WV Professional Engineer's test.

Structural analysis

If the couch and refirgerator load strength of a front porch is exceeded, how many dogs will be killed when the porch collapses?

Winnipeg Limited information was most enlightening. Were the CN cars regularly assigned or did they use whatever was available? It sounds as if they had a two-car set that ran regularly.

Also - b4 I forget - EXCELLENT information on Canadian equipment manufacturers; duly copied, pasted into another file, and archived.

Awhile back we were talking about RDCs and Narragansett race track trains on the New Haven. I got a copy of Peter Lynch's new book, New Haven Passenger Trains for Christmas, and finally got a chance to look at some of it last night. He has a whole chapter on all types of NYNH&H special operations, and there is a nice summary of the Narragansett trains; with photos. One of them is of a NH I-4 with a 14-car race train, and another is of an NH RDC in race track service.

Awhile back, someone was looking for pictures of FL9s - there's lots of them in there, including one of the Merchants Limited with a matched consist (stainless and orange) behind a pair of FL9s - my, my.

Now for my roadkill story. My wife's family, as some may know, is from western New York. Her oldest aunt was driving home from a visit to the old homestead when a deer decided to try and hitch a ride with her.

The vehicle involved was a brand-new Taurus and Bambi took out most of the windshield as she went over the top of the Taurus and landed in the road. Auntie and vehicle wound up in the ditch. It was, of course, snowing.

Anyway, she got out of the car and was standing alongside the road when as she put it, "Some extras from Deliverance showed up." Appearances were deceptive as if often the case, and they stopped to see if they could help. The first question they asked her was "Are you gonna eat that?"

She said, "No," so they gutted the deer, threw it in the back of the truck, and took auntie town to get a tow truck.

I'll check back a little later this afternoon.

work safe

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Time for coffee and Crumpet from the Mentor Bakery.

PASSENGERFAN AL'S STREAMLINER CORNER #38

WINNIPEG LIMITED GN Trains 7-8 March 1, 1956 St.Paul/Minneapolis - Winnipeg daily overnight 457miles 11 hours 15 minutes each way.

The Great Northern Railway operated a pair of fine overnight consists between the Twin Cities and Winnipeg overnight named the WINNIPEG LIMITED though both the SOO and NP also ran trains between the same cities the GN service was the finest of the three and the only overnight.

The Great Northern Railway WINNIPEG LIMITED was one of those trains that evolved into a streamliner rather than becoming streamlined all at once.

Even though the WINNIPEG LIMITED never operated domes or a streamlined observation it was the finest between those cities.

A typical consist of the period was assigned streamlined head end cars , 48-revenue seat leg-rest coaches handed down from the WESTERN STAR, a PASS series sleeping car a GLACIER series sleeping car also handed down from the WESTERN STAR .

A Canadian National Railway GREEN series sleeping car was operated during the summer months a through car between St. Paul and Vancouver operating in the SUPER CONTINENTAL west of Winnipeg.

The only two cars exclusive to the WINNIPEG LIMITED were the two CLUB series cars rebuilt by Pullman in February 1956 from GLACIER series sleeping cars. These two CLUB series cars retained 8 of their 16 Duplex Roomettes at one end and two of the original 4 Double Bedrooms. The space formerly occupied by the other two double bedrooms and 8 duplex roomettes was replaced by a small kitchenette 12 seat Dinette and twelve seat Lounge area. These two cars were numbered and named 1198 MANITOBA CLUB and 1199 WINNIPEG CLUB and were operated one per consist. With the addition of these cars to the WINNIPEG LIMITED March 1, 1956 the trains were streamlined as follows except for the CN GREEN series cars that changed daily southbound.

CONSIST ONE

504 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

508 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

1103 Baggage 30' Railway Post Office Car

248 Baggage Express Car

1129 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1127 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1128 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1199 WINNIPEG CLUB 8-Duplex Roomette 2-Double Bedroom Buffet 12-Seat Dinette 12-Seat Lounge Car

1383 INUYA PASS 6-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom 2-Compartment Sleeping Car

1184 CHANEY GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1169 (CN) GREEN BUSH 6-Section 6-Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car
(St. Paul - Vancouver)

CONSIST TWO

505 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

502 EMD E7A 2,000 HP Diesel Passenger Cab Unit

1102 Baggage 30' Railway Post Office Car

247 Baggage Express Car

1131 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1124 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1126 48-Revenue Seat Leg Rest Coach

1198 MANITOBA CLUB 8-Duplex Roomette 2-Double Bedroom Buffet 12-Seat Dinette 12-Seat Lounge Car

1380 SUIATTLE PASS 6-Roomette 5-Double Bedroom 2-Compartment Sleeping Car

1183 HUDSON GLACIER 16-Duplex Roomette 4-Double Bedroom Sleeping Car

1167 GREEN CABIN (CN) 6-Section 4-Double Bedroom 6-Roomette Sleeping Car
(Vancouver - St. Paul)

TTFN AL

[siberianmo]

Belated [bday] coalminer3 CM3!! 59 IS old!


Now, let’s have some fun at CM3’s expense! [yeah][wow]<why not[?]>

PART I of II


West Virginia Crazy Law

• If you wear a hat inside a theater, you may be fined.

• Roadkill may be taken home for supper.

• No children may attend school with their breath smelling of "wild onions."

• Doctors and dentists may not place a woman under anesthesia unless a third person is present.

• It is illegal to snooze on a train.

• According to the state constitution, it is unlawful for anyone to own a red or a black flag.

• When a railroad passes within 1 mile of a community of 100 or more people in it, they must build a station and stop there regularly to pick up and drop off passengers.

• Whistling underwater is prohibited.

Alderson

• One may not walk a lion, tiger or leopard, even on a leash.

Nicholas County

• No member of the clergy is allowed to tell jokes or humorous stories from the pulpit during a church service.

Huntington

• Firemen may not whistle or flirt at any woman passing a firehouse.

• It is legal to beat your wife so long as it is done in public on Sunday, on the courthouse steps.


West Virginia Jokes

West Virginia: One Big Happy Family ... Really!


Q. What do West Virginians do on Halloween?
A. Pumpkin!

Q. Why do ducks fly over West Virginia upside down?
A. There's nothing worth crapping on!

Q. What do a tornado and a West Virginia divorce have in common?
A. Someone always loses a trailer.

Q. How do you know the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia?
A. If it was invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush.

West Virginia's Statehood

A friend from West Virginia was shopping at the Wal-Mart in Blacksburg, VA. At the cash register, my friend wrote a check. The clerk asked for her driver's license.

She presented her West Virginia driver's license and the clerk grabbed it way from her and scoffed at her, "If you're going to use a fake ID, you could at least use a real state!" A manager was required to verify West Virginia's statehood.


Excerpts from the West Virginia Vocabulary Book

Foreclose
If I pay alimony this month, I'll have no money foreclose.

Rectum
I had two Lexus coups, but my old lady rectum.

Hotel
I gave my girlfriend crabs and the hotel everybody.

Disappointment
My parole officer told me that if I miss disappointment they gonna send me back to the big house.

Israel
Alozono tried to sell me a Rolex watch. I said man this looks fake. He said what a joke that watch israel.

Catacomb
Don King was at the fight the other night, somebody should get that catacomb.

Undermine
There is a fine looking chick living in the apartment undermine.

Acoustic
When I was 11 my uncle bought me acoustic and took me to the pool hall.

Iraq
When we got to the pool hall I told my uncle you break Iraq.

Stain
My mother-in-law stopped by and I axed her do you plan on stain for dinner?

Seldom
Darnell gave me two tickets to the game, and I want to seldom.

Odyssey
I told my brother you odyssey the boobs on that hoe.

Horde
My sister got in trouble because she horde around.

Tripoli
My ol lady wanted a bra for her birthday but I couldn't find a tripoli.

Fortify
I axed the ho how much and she said fortify is the price honey

Income
I just got in bed with Lois and income my wife.


A West Virginian walks into a hardware store and asks for a chain saw that will cut 6 trees in one hour. The salesman recommends the top of the line model. The West Virginian is suitably impressed, and buys it. The next day he brings it back, complaining that it would only cut down 1 tree and it took ALL DAY! The salesman takes the chain saw, starts it up to see what's wrong, and the West Virginian says, "What's that noise?"

West Virginia State Residency Application

Name: ________________
(last)
(first) (_) Billy-Bob
(_) Billy-Joe
(_) Billy-Ray
(_) Billy-Sue
(_) Billy-Mae
(_) Billy-Jack
(Check appropriate box)
Age: ____
Sex: ____ M _____ F _____ N/A
Shoe Size: ____ Left ____ Right

CB Handle: _____________________

Occupation:
(_)Farmer
(_)Mechanic
(_)Hair Dresser
(_)Un-employed
(_)Coal Miner

Spouse's Name: __________________________

Relationship with spouse:
(_) Sister
(_) Brother
(_) Aunt
(_) Uncle
(_) Cousin
(_) Mother
(_) Father
(_) Son
(_) Daughter
(_) Pet

Number of children living in household: ___

Number that are yours: ___

Mother's Name: _______________________

Father's Name: _______________________
(If not sure, leave blank)

Education: 1 2 3 4 (Circle highest grade completed)

Do you (_)own or (_)rent your mobile home?
(Check appropriate box)

___ Total number of vehicles you own
___ Number of vehicles that still crank
___ Number of vehicles in front yard
___ Number of vehicles in back yard
___ Number of vehicles on cement blocks

___ Number of refrigerators on front porch

Firearms you own and where you keep them:
____ truck
____ bedroom
____ bathroom
____ kitchen
____ shed

Model and year of your pickup: _____________ 194__
Number of empty beer cans on floorboard or in bed of
pickup: _________

Newspapers/magazines you subscribe to:
(_)The National Enquirer
(_)The Globe
(_)TV Guide
(_)Soap Opera Digest
(_)Gun World

___ Number of times you've seen a UFO
___ Number of times you've seen Elvis
___ Number of times you've seen Elvis in a UFO

How often do you bathe:
(_)Weekly
(_)Monthly
(_)Holidays
(_)Not Applicable

Color of teeth:
(_)Yellow
(_)Brownish-Yellow
(_)Brown
(_)Black
(_)No teeth
(_)N/A

Brand of chewing tobacco you prefer:
(_)Red-Man

How far is your home from a paved road?
(_)1 mile
(_)2 miles
(_)don't know
(_)can't get there from here

BUMPER STICKERS:
___ Eat more Possum
___ My other car is a piece of junk too
___ Honk if you love Jesus
___ If you ain't a cowboy, you ain't nothin'
___ Red-man Chewing Tobacco

Favorite Recreation: Check all that apply:
___ Square Dancin'
___ Possum Huntin'
___ Skinny Dippin'
___ Craw Daddin'
___ Gospel Singin'
___ 4-Wheelin'
___ Drankin'
___ Spittin' Backy ___ Bill Chip Trowin'
___ Honky Tonkin'
___ Noodlin'

# of Dogs: ___ Type: ___ Blue Tick ___ Beagle
___ Black & Tan ___ Bird Dawg

Cap Emblem: ___ John Deere ___ McCulloch Chain Saws
___ Budweiser ___ Vo-Tech
___ Skoal ___ Coors
___ NAPA ___ Smile if you're Not Wearing Underwear


Happy Belated Birthday! [bday] CM3!!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

FRIDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of POSTS

We open at 6 AM all time zones! (Don’t ask how we do that!)[swg]


Good Morning! What better way to start the day than to try some of our pastries from The Mentor Village Bakery with a cup of our freshly brewed coffee. Oh yes, we are now serving <traditional> and <light> breakfasts, check ‘em out on our Menu Board![tup]

See page 208 for the current issue of The Mentor Village
Gazette


Daily Wisdom

It was hard to have a conversation with anyone, there were too many people talking. (Yogi-ism)


Info for the Day:

(1) Today is the Birthday Bash! for CM3. Stop by during the morning or early afternoon to wish our friend and permanent member of the Order of the Stools a belated [bday] for his 59th!

(2) repeat Sunday Photo Posting Day! returns on January 8th. Let’s make this a successful event through active participation by more than one or two![tup]


SUMMARY

Name …..…………… Date/Time …..…..………. (Page#) .. Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 01:09:17 (211) Thursday’s Info & Summary

(2) barndad Doug Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 06:04:57 (211) Genius at the Junction, Part I, etc.

(3) passengerfan Al 05 Jan 2006: 05 Jan 2006, 07:24:59 (211) Streamliner #37 – Kanas City Chief, AT&SF

(4) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 08:53:53 (211) Inclusive Post, etc.

(5) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 08:47:18 (211) Acknowledgments

(6) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 09:26:16 (211) Interesting and inclusive Post!

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 09:27:53 (211) reply to Theodorebear, etc.

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 09:42:38 (211) reply to coalminer3

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 12:43:41 (211) Named RDC trains

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 12:56:20 (211) NOSTALGIA #54 Ad B&O (1946)

(11) wanswheel Mike Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 17:05:22 (211) Inclusive & reflective Post!.

(12) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 17:55:37 (211) Menu, etc.

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 18:32:16 (211) Acknowledgments, etc.

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 18:49:29 (211) For passengerfan

(15) nickinwestwales Nick Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 18:57:18 (211) Catch up, etc.

(16) barndad Doug Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 19:49:20 (211} Inclusive Post & Genius at the Junction, Part II

(17) siberianmo Tom Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 22:02:01 (211) Acknowledgments

(18) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 22:37:36 (211) Inclusive Post!

(19) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 05 Jan 2006, 23:31:41 (212) Classic Juice #15

(20) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Jan 2006, 01:11:12 (212) reply to trolleyboy

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)] Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Early Morning Rob!

Once again, I heard that trolley sound, awoke with a "start," and came down to investigate! Shuddaknownitwasyou! [swg]

Nice compilation on the Canadian Electric Car & Loco Co's![tup][tup] Whenever I see somethng like that it brings to mind a thought or three ... wonder where those folks who are still living are today[?] So many skilled people with an assortment of talents in an industry that has been substantially diminished over time and ever changing societal demands; trains to planes; trains to automobiles, trains to trucks, and so forth. There's so much to "read" in between the lines ..... [tup][tup]

I'll have to do a bit of checking on those slide scanners you mentioned. Been a couple of years since I seriously looked into it. The way technology moves these days (daze), perhaps a French Maid comes along with the gadgetry to <ahem> assist with the process![}:)][;)][:-,]

Never a dull moment with what you do, eh[?] Prepare for the holiday sales, be there for the holiday sales, inventory what's left from the holiday sales, etc. [wow] With all that overtime, why I'm eagerly awaiting ALL OF THOSE BLUES with my name on them! [swg]

Later![zzz]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Okay. now for the "content" bit for today.I;m still in a traction mood <suprise> so I give you gentlemen another installment of the "juice"

CLASSIC JUICE # 15 CANADIAN ELECTRIC CAR & LOCO CO's

This is an inclusive list. In some cases I do not have start and end date for these manufacturer's as some lasted others were there and gone, and yet other's are still around today only are making much different non rail products.

A. C . LARIVIERE

Located in Montreal they supplied the Montreal Street railway with Cars in 1894( later became the railways shops until operations ended in 1959 )

BOMBARDIER INC.

Located in Boucherville PQ, began as a snowmobile manufacturer in 1926. Entered mass transit field in 1974, with the contract to build Montreals subway cars. Aquired MLW in 1975 and Ontario's UTDC ( ex Hawker Siddeley Ca Thunder Bay ) in 1992. Still make transit equipment and coaches today.

BRITIS COLUMBIA ELECTRIC RY

In New Westminister BC, built many of their own streetcars and interurbans in shopsfrom 1897 till mid june 1913, after that they did rebuilding only.

CANADIAN CAR ABD FOUNDRY

Montreal PQ, Formed in 1909 from Canada Car and Dominion Foundry. Built streetcars and regular passenger and freight cars.Sold to Hawker Siddeley in 1964

CANADIAN GENERAL ELECTRIC

Peterbourough On, Cars and Locomotives built for Guelph,Hull,Kingston,etc from mid 1890's

CROSSEN CAR CO

Cobourg Ontario, Built cars from 1893 to after 1900, for Toronto railway co,NS&T Hamilton Radial RY etc.

CANADIAN VICKERS CO

Montreal PQ, Formed in 1911, as a subsidiary of Vickers of England Bult montreal's first subway cars in 1963

GENERAL MOTORS DIESEL

London On, built diesel and all electric loco's since the early 1950's

GRAND TRUNK RAILWAY

Pointe Ste Charles PQ, built electric cars for subsidiary Montreal and Southern Counties RY. 1914-1917

HAWKER SIDDELEY CANADA

Montreal,Thunder Bay- Derived from A>V>Roe aircraft. Bought Candian car and Foundry in 1964 built streetcars and subway cars for the TTC

MONTREAL LOCOMOTIVE WORKS

Montreal- Incorporated in 1902 Built steam and diesel locos ( Alco designs )Built subway cars for Toronto in 1962. Taken over by Bombardier in 1975

MONTREAL TRAMWAYS CO

Montreal PQ - Built both cars and loco's at the Youville shops, for it's own and affiliate lines in Quebec.

NATIONAL STEEL CAR CO

Hamilton On - Built interurbans for MS&C ( 1913 ) streetcars for Hamilton ( 1927 ), loco's for Ontario Hydro's construction railway ( 1918 ) built CPR's first diesel (1937 ) and the last interurbans for canada ( GRR # 626 1947 ) TTC trackplows (1944 ) Still build general frieght cars today.

NIAGARA ST CATHARINES & TORONTO RY

St Catharines On - Built cars for self plus other Mackenzie/CNR electric lines( Toronto suburban, MS&C, Oshawa railway ) 1896-1959-did in house rebuilding

NOVA SCOTIA CAR WORKS

Halifax NS- Originally Siliker car Co,Built several Halifax streetcars up to 1915

OTTAWA CAR CO

Ottawa On - Canada's largest car builder,Started in 1892,from Wylie Carriage co,. Lasted until 1947, when it built the kast orthidox streetcar design for the Ottawa strreet Railway.

PATTERSON & CORBIN

St Catharines On - Began as carriage maker in 1874. converted to horse cars to electric cars in the late 1880's.Built equipment using Van Deepole equipment, then built electric streetcars using GE motors in the 1890's. Sold cars widely including the first cars for Victoria but overexpanded and went bankrupt in 1897.

PRESTON CAR AND COACH CO

Preston On - Started in 1908. Built high quality wood cars,but also lead the way in steel car construction.Producing the first steel cars built in Canada. Built railway coaches as well building the TM&O's business cras in 1910. Sold out to JG Brill in 1921 ( built the first 50 Witt's for TTC ) plant was closed in 1923.

RATHBURN & CO

Deseronto On - Produced from late 1880's to 1920's, for Oshawa,Kingston,and possibly other's.

RHODES CURREY & CO

Amherst NS - Built cars for Halifax,Moncton,from mid 1890's to early 20th century.Alsio built railway passenger cars.

ST CHARLES & PRINGLE

Belleville On - Active in the early 1890's,suppliedcars and parts to the Montreal Street Railway

TILLSONBERG ELECTRIC CAR CO

Tillsonberg On- Built large cars( interurbans ) for Windsor Essex
& Lake shore and streetcars for St John NB shortly before WW1, closed in 1917

TPRONTO RAILWAY COMPANY

Toronto On- Produced mostly streetcars ( wooden single and double truck TR cars ) for itself and interurbans for the Toronto suburban and the Toronto and York Radial. 1900-1919

WINNIPEG ELECTRIC CO


Winnipeg MB - Considerable production of streetcars for Winnipeg,and Selkirik & lake Winnipeg Radial cars in the early decades of the 20th century.


Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good evening Tom and Leon. I'll nab meself a keith's and a piece of that wonderfull looking Haddock.[dinner]

Tom Thanks for the email, I now fully understand,I'm a bit thick once in a while donchaknow.[;)] Not to worry bout sunday, I have a few new pictures to post. As always glad you liked the latest juice, it seems to have caught some good reviews which is all I ask [tup]

Have you priced a slide scanner for your computer ? i know that both HP and Cannon make good ones,a way to post and save your multitudes of slides. Nice B&O nostalgia as well [tup]


CM3 i'm going to wish you the very happy right niow as I'm working 9 to whenever tomorrow ( last big hurrah inventory time at the store ) gives a new meaning to excedrine headache # 10[:(!][xx(]

Good show on the RDC info between yourself and Al you've made the boss one happy camper. [tup][:D]

To answer your question about the TSR. The only surviving bits are our museum's main line which our founders bought from CN for the back taxes owed. We had to clear the brush and relay all the track and re-blast and mount the poles, when they sold the line off in 1931 they got rid of everything. We have aat the museum two other bits of the old road, a wayshed which was left in Guelph ( a farmer used it till he donated it to us ) and we have the town of Meadowvales shelter, which is in the middle of our east loop with a passenger plateform built up to it. None of the cars survived. In 1959 we tried to save 107 the final run car,our founders went to St catharines to enquire about it in 1959 at the end of service on the NS&T,unfortunatly by the time they got there, CN had already started the scrap process ( in it's case burning as it was a 50-50 wood metal car )


Ted You are so right, govt run items tend to linger in red tape longer than most sane regular businessmen would. The plug really should have been pulled in 1923 but it wasn't. I suppose the private creditors were luckey to get the 25 cent on a dollar they recieved. When you think of it $500K in depression 1931 wasn't too bad a deal.

Nick Good to see you sir. As Ted said Boris is now a happy man thing.Hopefully he does not go to H7H's rub and tug as often now that you are back.

Doug thanks for the Zepher update. I know what it's like trying to raise large amt's in a museum setting. We are still doing our drive to build barn 4, been at it three years, we now have almost the $300K required.

Excellent piece on Thomas Edison as well. Nice to see his Canadian sojourne. So did he ever actually get charged? Stratford and St Mary's are still big railway towns. The CNR built their main Ontario rebuilding shops in Stratford, some of those buildings are still there today. The "Big Shop" as it was called closed in 1961 after doing it's last full steam overhaul on 6218.

Glad that you liked the Toronto suburban story [tup][:D]

Mike I can understand your being caught up in the events of the day. truly awfull heart wrenching stuff. I have to say that you are one of our more inclusive so good for you [tup][^]

Alright that catches me up fer now

Rob

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Gents!

Just a brief word or two:

Nick send whatever you'd like for inclusion on Sunday Photo Posting Day! - picture ENCORES! by name or additional pix as attachments. ASAP, if you please.

Ship me an Email when and if your Rendezvous plans become firm. [tup]

Doug Real interesting stuff on Tom Edison, Stratford, etc. Love that pix with the RDCs! [tup][tup] Speaking of which - what are you confused about[?]

Thanx for the round and of course the quarters (Itwice today!) [tup][tup] What's with the "Michigan" quarters[?][?]

To clear up any confusion for those who "wondered" about what Nick is alluding to - his comments were really intended for someone else named "Tom" - but as happens, sometimes our fingers "do the walking and talking!" Happens. Your Email straightened it out. [tup]

Okay - Leon has the bar, and Boris will ring the bell for a round on the house!

Nite! [zzz]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

[Anonymous]

Good evening Tom and friends! I'll have a Killians Red and some of Nick's Haddock dipped in beer batter, please. As for the jukebox, here's another Michigan quarter that I didn't know I had, and please set-up a round for the house. Nice add on the B&O Tom, and in reference to CM3's "real" name .... I just figured his father was CM2. I know that CM3 started the RDC list, but Al did a nice job enhancing it. You both have me confused. Liked your AT&SF Kansas City Chief Streamliner post Al. Terrific stuff as usual. Ted, I can only assume that the fundraisung efforts are going well for our Zephyr. I'll post an inquiry on the Yahoo IRM list to find out what I can. You know, I was told the IRM was offered the Godess consist. All we had to do was get it here .... from Saudi Arabia. Don't know how true this is. Anyhow, I promised the second part of the Edison article today, so here it is:

Genius at the Junction of Thomas Edison and the early days of his life with the railroad – by John Uckley …. Rail Classics March 1980

The Stratford station is a large two story brick structure that sees the passing of many freights and passenger runs each day. This is eleven miles east of St. Mary’s Junction.


Thomas Edison continued to work on his experiments during the daylight hours while sneaking a few cat naps at night. This time there was a difference to the situation. Young Edison arranged with the night yardman at Stratford Junction to awaken him when it was time for his “6” signal to be sent or when a train was due at the junction.

One fateful night Tom Edison received a hurried order to hold an eastbound Grand Trunk freight train. Edison wired back immediately that he would stop the train. Tom scurried out into the darkness with his lantern to find the signal man. Before he could locate the employee and have the correct signal set, the train had clattered past the depot at a moderate rate of speed.

Tom shouted at the engineer, but it was to no avail. He rushed back to the telegraph key and reported to the operator in Stratford that he could not hold the freight train because the order had not come through in sufficient time. The Stratford operator sent back just one word over the wire … “H-E-L-L.” Young Edison knew that the dispatcher had allowed a westbound train to leave Stratford on the assumption that he had halted the eastbound freight train on a yard siding at Stratford Junction.

Horror wrapped its invisible tentacles around Edison’s mind. Two fast moving trains, one eastbound and one westbound, were rushing through the darkness on the single track line.

Tom Edison sprang out of the junction depot and ran at full speed toward the lower station near the junction where the day operator slept. He was hoping he could somehow find a way to stop that eastbound train. The night was partially overcast and the moon was frequently hidden by the churning clouds. The frenzied young man slipped on some rocks and fell into a culvert, knocking himself unconscious.

Nevertheless, the grisly accident was averted when the two engineers in their respective locomotive cabs, saw each other’s approaching headlights on a straight section of track and managed to bring their trains to a jolting stop a few feet from each other.

The next morning Tom discovered that he had a splendid bump on his head and also a cryptic summons to come by train immediately to the office of W.J. Spicer, the General Manager of the Grand Trunk in Toronto.

Later that day Thomas Edison arrived at the office of the railroad official. The young man was informed that his presumed criminal negligence of duty could land him in prison under existing Canadian laws. The General Manager was furious and mentioned five years as a possible term for the youth. Seventeen-year-old Thomas Edison was quaking in his shoes with fear. Edison knew that he was not guilty of dereliction of duty but he could not prove it. The Stratford dispatcher would not defend him. He had his own name and job to protect. It looked as if Tom Edison would soon be made the scapegoat in the affair.

Two English gentlemen walked into the office at this critical moment as part of the international business delegation. They began to engage Mr. Spicer in conversation. Tom Edison took this opportunity to slip quietly out the door and exit the building.

Edison hurried to the Grand Trunk freight station and found a freight train about to leave Toronto with an ultimate destination of Sarnia. He knew the conductor and asked for a ride back to Sarnia. The young man was a nervous wreck on the entire 170 mile trip through Southern Ontario. When Tom arrived in Sarnia, he boarded the ferryboat leaving for Port Huron, Michigan. The ferry glided across the St. Clair River and landed at the United States Port-of-Entry. Edison had left Canadian soil behind him for good.

Thomas Edison did not stay in Port Huron for very long. He spent most of the next five years as a roving telegrapher working for various railroads and also the Western Union Company in such diverse locations as Adrian and Lenawee Junction, Michigan; Fort Wayne and Indianapolis, Indiana; Cincinnati, Ohio; Nashville and Memphis, Tennessee; Louisville, Kentucky; New Orleans, Louisiana; Boston and New York.

There were many misadventures during those restless years. The youthful adversities of the struggling inventor and burgeoning American scientist, endured at Stratford Junction, Ontario, stand out as a unique episode in a career that has become a legend the world over.

A passenger train pauses at St. Mary’s depot, now partly used for passengers and partly used as a beauty shop. Train #666 is led by a CN/VIA GP-9


[:I] Take care my friends! [:I]

[nickinwestwales]

Well I`ve just had a wander back through some previous pages and as a result,may I take this opportunity to apologise to one and all for my intemperant language and attitude in a previous post,no excuses permissable,manners maketh the man &so on,my mother would be rightly ashamed of her firstborn
Now then-we have a Sunday posting day approaching,most of what I have to offer is of Welsh narrow-gauge-does anybody have a favourite ?-please let me know A.S.A.P as this is a multi-part adventure requiring capt TOM`S assistance.
My own personnal favourites are: Tal-Y- Lyn no1 approaching Rhydronnen halt,Ffestiniog rly Fairlie making up a train at Portmadoc,Welsh Highland " Funkey " Diesel running round at Waenfawr with the mountain in the background....
---happy spotting to you all,these are all shots that [4=:-)]TOM has been good enough to publish on his site,thank you my friend-P.S-missisnick is looking out flights to Toronto within the envelope,watch out for hippy tourists at the bar !!!!!!!
Christmas is over and done,we are all alittle older & wiser apart from missisnick who is older & wider-whoops,I didn`t say that-happy new year to you all,all the best from your foreign correspondant,nick,[C=:-)

[siberianmo]

Special for passengerfan Al

Thanx for the RDC "names" list!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Good Evening!

Just a couple of comments: Nice to see you again, Nick and we appreciate the menu from our Chief Chef [C=:-)] [tup]

Mike Some diverse, but reflective comments from you. They ARE off topic [#offtopic], however to show that we aren't entirely without feelilngs - there will be NO Tweeeeeeets! directed your way. [swg]

The lithograph of Morant's Curve of an original by Max Jacquiard was first seen at a Vancouver, BC art gallery. I immediately felt that this was something "I had to have!" Carol picked up on it [swg] and later arranged for it to be shipped as a gift for me. It is one of my most cherised "keep sakes" and always brings a real measure of pleasure when I look at that scene! [yeah]

My comments regarding Rob and Ted do not necessarily mean they are the "best," moreso they are the most dedicated to what this bar 'n grill has been and is all about as demonstrated by their consistency and content of Posts. They have set the standard for what a "regular" at this bar should be. They Post 7 days out of 7 - participate in the events, contests and banter at the bar, and of course, support the Proprietor. It will be my pleasure to meet them both at our Rendezvous in Toronto!

Later (maybe}! Leon the Night Man takes over the bar in three hours from NOW! [tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]


REMINDER! Tomorrow (morning and early afternoon) is the Belated Birthday Bash for CM3 Let's not forget our friend on "his day!"